Held in Motion
Held in Motion: Breaking boxes, blurring lines, & imagining the possibilities. These recordings are my sense-making explorations of humans & their systems. Think, the multidimensional intersections of things like science, tech, psychology, sociology, language, the practice of philosophy, etc. No expertise, here. Just a curious mind that thrives on wrestling with the complex whys, because anything else isn't nearly as fun. If this sounds interesting, welcome! Hear something you'd like to chat about? Please visit my Swellcast website: https://www.swellcast.com/SeekingPlumb. (You can reply via the website or the Swell app.) This is the personal podcast of Christina (aka @SeekingPlumb). To learn more or to start your own personal or community podcast, please visit www.swellcast.com. Visit https://swellcast.com/SeekingPlumb to add your episodes to this community podcast, or to start your own podcast.
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"It had me thinking about, like when we hear someone say something, whether it's a lie or whether it's a fact or whatever. Like the responsibility that we hold as people who receive that information. And really needing in this day and age, more than ever to be honest with ourselves about where and when we choose to take something in and when we choose to reject something. Because I think...
"And so when you start to identify the umbrella of autism, then you won't necessarily be surprised to see all these other things underneath it. So it's really, really important that one, we recognize that autism is far more complex, that it is an umbrella, or if you will, a doorway to walk through to have better understanding to the brain, the nervous system, the biology of this specific...
"And so then we take ideas that have a long history of right and wrong, but then we lean into them more heavily and we want to like, get down to a granular level of what is right and wrong. Except that doing this is an impossibility. This is what I mean. Someone will say, maybe it's about like your vote. If you voted for, then you are responsible for everything that that party does. That...
"I'm glad I pondered this because I was having difficulty reconciling my grief with also my appreciation. And now I can see the grief as a tool and recognizing why it was there. And it's not necessarily about loss. It's about redirection and intentionally creating a slight shift for fine tuning. And that. That transmutes that feeling from grief into intentional choice. That. That is. Tha...
"We stay, they nudge, nudge, nudge. And we're just so enraptured by the puppy that we don't go anywhere. It's all really performative, and it irritates me because it's like, I know that legally they have to give us a notification and let us know that these changes are coming."
"And they say this horrible thing and so I want nothing to do with them. And. And what's amazing about this thing though, is that you can see the nuances and complexities in individuals and also recognize the nuances and complexities in yourself. Nothing has to be cut and dry, neat and tidy, binary in its definition, in its categories, in its explanation. None of it, right? There can be ...
"They're going to run into a brick wall at some point because they've leaned too heavily into the optimization processes of algorithms and statistics and dollar signs, etc. And finally recognizing that they need more of the messy, gritty humanness to be able to achieve their goals. And so then maybe, maybe it'll nudge it back. Maybe. And perhaps this is a bit idealized. I definitely need...
"Rather than her having children with multiple men, the man needed to know that those were his children so that his owned property could be passed down to those children. So it very much became marriage about passing on of ownership. And so you've got those kinds of concepts, you've got the transactional agreements between two parties, right? You've also got some governments who thought ...
"What happened is then when you think about people who want to keep and maintain and increase power, you can't martyr everyone. The teachings that he, Jesus was sharing were catching. And so what do you do when that happens? You can't wipe out everybody because this is too far reaching. So then you neutralize the belief. They decided that it was important to instead of the complex shades...
"I want to, I want to find a greater connection with it. Ask the questions I hadn't been permitted in some cases, or ask them in a different way and really just understand things better to sort of give myself a stronger reconnection, if you will. Because so much had been disrupted in my life at that point. Surprisingly, that is what brought me out of the faith. It wasn't some tragic even...
"But I find myself today all of a sudden realizing that I am experiencing conflicted desires and they're all self inflicted. They're my own desires at war with my own desires. And I'm like, what are you doing? And I've experienced this for some time now where I want to be a part of online conversations in live audio spaces. And, and that's different than doing asynchronous. And I think t...
"One of them they had brought down and they were cleaning out so this little baby bird tried to escape and they would catch it and bring it back, cleaned it all up, put the birdie back inside and then I didn't get to see when they put it back up again. But there were so many tiny little birds at these big, big bird houses as well as like the whole place is full of bird houses. They're ev...
"And it's interesting to look at how those dynamics, I think there's a parallel there between the classroom and childhood and how we are as adults, like as kids, the, the students were thinking about me, thinking myself better, that is a know it all. Or kissing up to the teacher to perhaps place myself ahead of them when those concepts were not even on my radar. It was quite literally, i...
"Like, if we don't acknowledge how these things go hand in hand, then we can set ourselves up for trouble down the line, right? Because either we're ignoring the emotions and feelings. I'm using these words interchangeably and I know not everybody does, but that's what I'm doing. Then we will not take the time to learn about what they're informing us of or how to regulate those emotions ...
"And really like recognizing for me, it seems like it's a tool of control because it's not about, it's not about harm or flourishing of relationships. It's more of how we police ourselves and how we police one another. Now just think, right?"
"It all depends on where we are, right? But those constellations won't exist elsewhere. And it's really kind of cool when you think about humans at some point being space, faring and going from planet to planet. And each time you land, essentially you're seeing a new sky with all of these stars and all of these opportunities to create new stories, new images, to draw association between ...
"So to give an example, like dark matter, what we can't actually see or explain may actually be because a lot of things happened in that part of space. And the information has weight, so it has gravity, so it influences how sticky and how close things stay together and so on. Anyway, that's as much as I'm going to get into the science of it. That's very fascinating. I'm so intrigued by t...
"And because there's these different pockets of how they want to organize humans, they can do it. And when they're doing it for the purposes of others who have intentions of gaining power, intentions of gaining money, and it benefits Facebook, why in the would they stop? And if we don't recognize that this is what's happening, then we can't stop it from happening. Right?"
"They are interconnected, overlapping, and they reinforce one another. And so really it's those, those reinforcements, those similarities that I want to zero in on, because whatever this, I don't know what I want to call it because and apparently there is no formal term for these dynamics of control and power, of oppression, of. And sometimes, you know, some of these words are not quite ...
"But it was something about their recognizing that how humans organize themselves could be detrimental if it was done this way. And we've seen that, right? And us versus them is a dynamic that has existed long before the US ever did and how polarizing it can be. And also then it becomes about my team versus your team rather than let's get things done for all of us. Right? So I would love...
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