03-25-25 FULL SHOW - Rep. Thomas Massie Joins Me To Talk About The CR And More

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Speaker 5 (00:28):
A Tuesday edition of the show. I'm your host for
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Mandy Connell. And I'm joined, of course by my right
hand man. He tries to keep me on track. He's
Anthony Rodriguez. You can call him a rod That's the
kind of day it's going to be. So I have
an amazing blog plan for you. Actually, it's already done.

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Not just planned, it's already it's already done at mandy'sblog
dot com with all kinds of interesting stuff on it.
Congressman Thomas Massey is coming up at one o'clock today.
I'm super excited to talk to him. You guys know,
I'm a huge fan, and I'm excited for you guys
to hear straight from the horse's mouth exactly why he
does what he does.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
Because BOYOUDI did.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
I got some aggrieved emails when he voted against the
continuing resolution. So I'm excited you get to hear from him,
and we're gonna do the blog in.

Speaker 6 (01:16):
Just a second.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
But I got to jump right in on something that
is so annoying to me. This is one of these
things that drives me absolutely insane.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
And it happens in politics all the time. Now we
used to.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
I mean, I still can remember Hillary Clinton clear as
a bell in that Alabama church. That's what I'm talking about,
Like all of a sudden, she's Hattie McDaniel from Gone
with the Wind or something, you know. I mean, it
was just it was so patently insulting to the people
she was talking to.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
And you know, it's one thing and this happens to me.
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
I have been open about my extremely deep Southern accent
when I was younger, and when.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
I go back home, it starts to slide out. Okay,
you can't help it.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
It just soaks up other people's Southern accents, just soak in,
and then you just start find yourself just reverting back
to your old ways. But Democrats do this thing where
they pander to the audience they're speaking to, and it is,
like I said, this is so incredibly insulting, and I
don't understand.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Why they do it. I truly don't, So let me
do this.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Let me play a couple of sound bites from Representative
Jasmine Crockett. Now, Representative Jasmine Crockett is a rising star
in the Democratic Party.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
She is very entertaining to watch.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
She's a brand builder, she's an Instagram brand builder as
a congresswoman. But I saw this, and thankfully the internet
is forever. So we play a couple of sound bites
for you. The first is from Jasmine Crockett, and I
don't even know what year this is is, so this

(03:02):
is a young woman on the rise kind of thing,
and this is what she sounded like, and.

Speaker 7 (03:08):
This is what she said.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Absolutely. First of all, it is good to see you
in the new year.

Speaker 8 (03:12):
You know, no one could have told me that when
I went down to Austin now looks like a little
bit over a year ago, that I would be running
for Congress.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
That's not what my plan was.

Speaker 8 (03:24):
But what I've always decided is that I would step
up when there was a need.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Listen, okay, and then there's more cut in here, But
now I want to play for you the latest Jasmine
Crockett SoundBite, and this is what I find so incredibly baffling.
A little bit more on Representative Jasmine Crockett. She comes
from a family of a pastor in Saint Louis, Missouri.
She went to exclusive private high schools. She went to

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a decent liberal arts college, not.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
The most expensive, but not the least expensive. And she
is a lawyer.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
She not only went to law school, she passed the
bar very quickly after she graduated. This is an educated woman,
and yet when speaking at a human rights campaign event,
this is what she sounded like.

Speaker 8 (04:09):
Because we in these hot ass taxis streets. Honey, y'all
know we got governor high wheels down there. Come on now,
and the only thing hot about him is that he
is a hot ass mess honey.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
So so yes, So what is that?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
What is that?

Speaker 9 (04:31):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (04:33):
This just drives me crazy? And I have to give
it to Emily's naughty on X who came up.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
With this caption. Didn't she go to some super francy
private school.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Why are all our elected leaders talking like they just
finished unloading a seafaring vessel at a sketchy dock.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
And I had groc the AI four X create a.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Picture of Liz Warren as a longshoreman, and I'm pretty
happy with it.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
I'm pretty with it.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
That's what you see on my Twitter feed right now
at Mandy Condle. I made myself laugh this morning. So
that's just my annoyance of the day. And nobody ever
calls these people out even though it's it's just like,
ugh h.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
There's one.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
There's a tactic in sales called mirroring. And when you're
talking to a potential client or a client and and
whatever they give you in terms of tone, you know, attitude, whatever,
you give the same back to them, right, You're mirroring
whatever emotions they're displaying, and it's a sales tactic. The
problem is is that mirroring sometimes become becomes a caricature.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
And that's just what this feels like.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Just yeah, just eh.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Anyway, Okay, onto the blog. Go to mandy'sblog dot com.
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I'm a little bit out of breath from that, Yep,
a little bit. And so, as I mentioned before, very

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excited to have Congressman Thomas Massey on the show. I
know many of you were very salty that he voted
no on the Continuing Resolution. And the reason I want
to have him on is because nobody explains why he
does what he does.

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Better than Thomas Massey.

Speaker 5 (07:46):
And if you are a small government conservative who has
been frustrated with the government spending, if you listen to him,
I think you will begin to understand.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
So that is coming up at one o'clock.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Looking forward to that. We have so much to talk
about today. I just heard Ross talking about the the
just I saw this story and I just went, of course,
of course, the national Security chat that was going on
in Signal where they added the editor of The Atlantic,

(08:18):
Jeffrey Goldberg to the chat. What what is happening that
all of this government business is being done on platforms
that immediately delete your encrypted messages. I don't like that
at all, not even a little bit. I don't like
it when the Johnston administration does it. I don't like
it when our Republican government does it.

Speaker 6 (08:39):
I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
There's a reason that we protect our records and we
make sure that you know, these records live on and
I don't like that at all. And then the fact
that this just gets I mean the fact that it happened.
I've seen a lot of people speculate that. And if
you don't know what I'm talking about, let me just
really quickly, because maybe you're the person you just woke
up from a very long and fulfilling nap and you

(09:03):
have no idea what I'm talking about.

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of The Atlantic, which is a
hard left magazine, was accidentally or and I'm putting accidentally
in their quotes because there's some question about that we're
going to get to in a moment, not by me,
but by others, accidentally got added to a group chat
on Signal, the encrypted app that erases messages, and discussions

(09:31):
were ongoing about hitting the Houthis in Yemen and Goldberg
got added right before the missiles started firing at the
Hoothies in Yemen, so it appears legit. And there were
some unflattering things said about Europe, and not untrue, but unflattering.
But I think that we're really trying to rattle Europe's
cage into.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
You know, doing something so.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
That this story is mind blowing that this even occurred.
There's so much wrong here, so much wrong here, And
for any of you who are just dismissing this out
of hand as rookie mistake, which it probably is, but nonetheless,
it's like if I make a rookie mistake, you know,
I say something weird on the radio, and that's it.

(10:18):
When you're Secretary of Defense and you make a rookie
mistake like this, you're putting American lives at risk, and
that is that is exactly where we should all be
concerned about this. This is not a no big deal thing.
And then there's this whole thing happening online where this was.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Obviously it was obviously added on purpose. I mean everybody
can see that, right, I mean, this is just like
next level master ops.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I wish I could believe that, but in all reality,
the most obvious answer is probably the right answer, and
that is Mike Walls completely screwed up and added Jeffrey
Goldberg to this chat, and so, you know, I don't
know what else to do about that.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
I have no idea what to do with that.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
But it's it's disheartening to see people kind of, you know,
glossing over this, like, oh, it's no big deal. I mean,
nobody really had hurt, right, I mean.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Who am I? How do we know this hasn't happened before?

Speaker 5 (11:21):
How do we know that other members of the media
or somewhere else have not been added to group chats?

Speaker 6 (11:26):
And no one bothered to say, hey, who are you?
Who else is on this thread? Don't I don't know, man,
it's just this.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Texter said, how do we get proof of these messages
if they automatically delete? I believe Jeffrey Goldberg screenshot at
all of them. So and by the way, the National
Security Council said, yeah, those look like they could be
real text messages. So it's not like the White House
is out there running around denying it, which would be
the absolute response if it was not true.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Think about this, guys, I mean, Donald Trump is the
first guy out there to say that is.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
I mean, he just argued about his portrait in the
Colorado Capitol long enough so they would take it down.
He's not afraid to point out when he's being, in
his eyes, represented poorly and this certainly would not reflect well, right,
so they would be leaping to their own defense. But
maybe they are doing the right thing, which is just

(12:21):
not saying no and then eventually saying yes, because it's
just stupid. It's just a really dumb, dumb thing to do.
But unlike the rest of us who are just out
of here, normy world doing jobs that may have an impact,
but you know, for most of us, no one's gonna
die if we screw up at work, most of us.
But dang, that's just unacceptable. And guys, I am a

(12:44):
Pete Eggs, that's supporter, I truly am. But this is
just it's so bad.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
It's so incredibly bad and a terrible look.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
And this is going to be the thing that the
Democrats will coalesce around because they have not been able
to co less around anything else. But they're not thinking
it through because to do what the Democratic Party, in
concert with the Biden administration did to the American people
for four years, which was lie about the president's faculties

(13:18):
for four years.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
They lied.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
They don't have a lot of moral high ground on
this issue in terms of, oh, you want to know
who's running the government.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
At least we are out in the open here.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
At least our guys are too transparent accidentally too too transparent.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
So it's just terrible.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
But anybody who sits there and thinks about, you know,
and is upset at the thought of shrinking a government
of this size, there's an incredible amount of incompetence. And yeah,
I think this falls into the category of incompetence. Now
do people need to be fired over it?

Speaker 7 (13:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I think if no one is fired of it, it
does give credence to the people who are speculating that
this was an on purpose leak. You know, it's like,
you're not gonna fire somebody, You're just gonna have them.
You're gonna have to, you know, yell at him in public.
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
We'll see if the story gets legs.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
We'll see if the polling data says it bothers the
American people enough to keep pursuing it. Because let's be real, right, now,
I would imagine that the Democrats are spending a small
fortune on almost daily polling to try and figure out
where the wind's blowing in their favor so they can jump.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
On and exploit it.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
And that's exactly what I would do if I were
in the position they were, I would look for any
port in a storm, like any subject that they can,
you know, go hard on that is popular with the
American people.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
So we'll see if it sticks.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
And if it does stick and Trump feels like it's
hurting him, you'll see Pete Hegseth resign in disgrace. I mean,
that's what's gonna happen. So how do they talk to
each other? Why is the press available to add on
the conversation? This was a Signal app conversation. Signal is
an encrypto did text messaging app and Mike Walls added

(15:04):
Jeff Goldberg to the chat from the Atlantic. It was
just so incredibly stupid, Mandy, I'm kind of thinking, as
bad as it is that Goldberg was added, I think
it's worse that he went public about it. That No, no,
you're basically saying, being transparent about an incredibly big security

(15:26):
breach is bad. Now I want you to put your
your you know that shoe on the other foot. If
this was a Democrat administration and this had happened, would
you be so laise fair about it?

Speaker 6 (15:36):
I doubt it. It's a massive colossal.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Screw up, and we can be casual about it all
we want, but it's a massive colossal screw up, and
to downplay it is just like, I just think that's
kind of silly, you know, I don't know anyway. So
that's pretty much how the show is going to go today.
In case you were wondering, I got coffee, My hair

(16:00):
looks good today, feeling good things are things are gonna
sail through. We may even barrel through this Tuesday. I
got a lot of you hitting the text line, Mandy.
I think hag Seth needs to practice his strip teas
dance in case he needs another gig. I doubt Vance
will attend because there might be pole dancing. How do

(16:20):
we get proof of these messages if they automatically delete?
Did that one already they screenshot at him? Today is
National Medal of Honor Day.

Speaker 6 (16:27):
Please mention it.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
A pueblo has a record for recipients, and now you're
getting a Bojangles in return for their sacrifices. I'm just kidding,
I'm being flippant, but there is very few things. There
are very few things honors in the world that mean
more than the Medal of Honor in my view, So
thank you to our Medal of Honor recipients. Ay Ron,

(16:51):
I think your talent has gotten off track. She's given
the band too much extra time to get drunk.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Maybe what's it to you, mister? Oh god, no, they
just woke up out of their drunken summer.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah yeah, all right, big floppy clown shoes, This Texter,
big floppy clown shoe. Intelligence screw up two points in
this outrageous embarrassment. Number one key trade of leadership excellence
is whether a leader models behavior they expect those they
lead to follow.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
What example does this set for war fighters that serve
under and execute their orders? Number two?

Speaker 5 (17:33):
How many times previously of government and military personnel use
non approved signal comms to discuss classified info and plans?
US military is increasingly reliant on the Signal app to communicate.
The comms app has become culturized and highly doubt this
was the first instance of it being used to discuss
classified material whilst inadvertently added the journalist to the signal

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text discussion. But sect deaf pete Hegseth knowingly transmitted classified
war plans over unapproved communications.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Meth so he's culpable too.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Signal auto deletes messages, so without this screw up, public
would never know about its improper use. Trump admin that
NAT Security team just lost any moral imperative and now
know better. Okay, there's a lot there a lot that
I agree with, and this.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Is why it's a colossal screw up. You guys.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
What I wonder is this, Why hasn't the US military
developed its own encrypted app?

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Why haven't we done that?

Speaker 5 (18:35):
I mean, I guess I know why, because then they
would probably be held accountable for the stuff they have.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Mandy, please pause, think and breathe.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
I believe you may have browsed sun Zuo's thirteen chapters,
and then consider of all the journalists in the USA,
the group chose to inadvertently leak to Jeffrey Goldberg number one,
the author of the cowardice of Trump. Number two, the
person who possessed dual US and Israeli citizenship. This is
the Jeffrey Goldberg who served in the IDF. Jeffrey also

(19:09):
wrote prisoners a Muslim and a Jew across the Middle
East dividen.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Oh so it's the Jew's fault?

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Is that what it is? Uh?

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Huh, I mean, I'm not even sure what you're getting
at there. Your entire connection of going to blame the
Jews does not make sense to me. So uh yeah, Yeah,
it's a screw up, you guys. It's a screw up. Mandy,
What was the biggest rooking mistake you made on the radio?

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Darn tutin. I'll tell you. I'll tell you after this.
We'll be right back. Keep it on KOA. If it
were a democrat, y'all would be losing their mind. Screw up.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
Where a bunch of people including the vice president, the
Secretary of Defense, the CIA director, national Security advisor, let's
see everybody, including Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor of the Atlantic,
after he was added by mistake by Mike Waltz. While
they discussed bombing the hoothies in Yemen, they also discussed

(20:10):
their fact that they were disgusted with European free loading
when it came to defense. It's not flattering, and it's
a terrible mistake, and it's fascinating that so many of
you have taken to the text line to say, hey,
I think they did it on purpose.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Now, if nobody gets fired or.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Ends up presiding over it, then I will think you
have more credence because if they ask somebody to follow
on the sword and say, oh, you gotta leak, you
know you got to do this, and then they don't
make them leave. But I don't know, I don't know,
one texter said Mandy. I think the errantly added reporter
was a great way to pit Yemen against the Houthis

(20:48):
without making a direct threat. Makes it clear that we
have plans if the problem isn't solved. Basically, they need
to clean their house. Well, you guys have to understand,
Yemen is a pit. And I'm being kind like I'm
almost being insulting pits right now when I say Yemen
is a pit. Now, I'm sure that there are people
in Yemen that are wonderful human beings, but ultimately Yemen
is one of the least free places in the world.

(21:11):
They have the most corruption of most places in the world.
And there's so much corruption in Yemen that even the
Yemeny government and I have to put air quotes around
the government. It only operates through grift and stealing. Yemen
is an absolute disaster on every level. Yemen is a
perfect example of showing people what you know, an unfree,

(21:34):
un moral society looks like, because they're so corrupt that
you don't even know where to start to to kind
of move it in the right direction, right.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
I mean, it's just it's not a place we want
to be. And the only reason we are caring for a.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Minute about anything in Yemen is because the Huthi's have
shut down a major shipping channel, and Donald Trump wants
to get Iran to back down by basically cutting off
their little you know, their little tentacles in the form
of Hamas and Hezbollah and now the Hoothies.

Speaker 6 (22:08):
So there's just one at a time, wopping off.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
The tentacles and leaving Iran weekend without their proxies.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
And that's what Trump wants to do, you guys. I believe,
and I mean this in my heart.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
Donald Trump is the most anti war president we've had
in the modern era. And he demonstrated that by keeping
us out of every foreign entanglement he could. And he's
always been consistent about that, even when he was a
citizen back in the eighties. He was running full page
ads in the New York Times about nuclear disarmament. He
is anti war, so I think he just wants to

(22:41):
get Iran back into their cage and bring back containment strikes,
some big, you know deal where they don't get nukes
and we can actually check that instead of just taking
their word for it. So that's all the stuff that's
going on there. I did want to answer this question.
Thank you for reminding me. So what was your big
rookie radio mistake? It wasn't exactly like rookie Rookie. I've

(23:04):
been doing the show for about a year and every
day I would get up because I was doing a
morning show, and I would make an Excel spreadsheet of
every segment and what I was going to talk about
and the link to the story. And it was very organized.
And now I just use the blog to do the
same thing. But I just I didn't do my sheet
one day. I kind of got a little lack of

(23:25):
days goal on my show prep and my show went
from five to ten, so it was a five hour show,
and at like nine thirty, I just ran out of
things to talk about. I mean, no you think to yourself,
how is that possible? But trust me, trust me. Once
your brain decides there's nothing left to talk about, you
can't think of anything to talk about. You can't even

(23:48):
imagine what you can talk about. So but yeah, So
thirty minutes of hemming and hawing, and you guys, I
had like pittstained sweat. I mean I had a I
was sweating bullets. It was the worst, longest, most awful
half hour of my entire adult life. And since then

(24:11):
I have never underprepared, which is why even on days
that we have a baseball game, you get a full
blog because I'm going to be ready.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
People, I'm going to be ready.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Ready.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Here's one more text on this and I'll leave it
at that, Mandy, What if I love a good one?
If so, it's a great way to start a text message.
What if Number one, the information was neither top secret
nor confidential, And I believe that is what is being
said in some circles that what was discussed was not
top secret, But I don't know about confidential.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Number two?

Speaker 5 (24:45):
What if the release of this information was specifically targeted
and directed?

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Number three? Are you positive that this journalist held onto
this information? Quote?

Speaker 5 (24:56):
To protect the US government and its officials. Number four,
will this journalist allow their cell phones, online and social
media contact history in the last seven days to be
reviewed by US national security personnel? Not sure why he
would do that. He did not break into the chat,
He merely reported on it.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Do I need to continue?

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Remember Trump was just sworn into office on January twenty,
twenty twenty five. Seems to me that nobody in the
Middle East is buying pages anymore. How do you communicate
to gain information cheaply and effectively? Okay, you communicate in
a fashion where there's some kind of record so the
American people know what happened later on.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Just you know, throw that out there. How about that?

Speaker 5 (25:38):
And the ultimate the thing that you're just glossing over,
so you're essentially believed they did it on purpose. Well,
if they did it on purpose, why would they do
that at the beginning of the administration to make themselves
look utterly and completely incompetent.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Which is what they do right now?

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Queue up the infamous, infamous sound bite of Alec Baldin's
radio show with nothing to say for callers. You know
what you guys, if you've never heard that audio and
I've never been able to get my hands on the audio.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
I have looked for it so many times.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
But Alec Baldwin was asked a guest host on a
radio show and he didn't prepare.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
I guess he just thought the.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Callers would come flooding in and he would be overwhelmed
with people telling him what to talk about. And as
it turned out, nothing could be further from the truth.
And it is minutes upon minutes of Alec Baldwin basically saying, Hey.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
Guys, give me a call. Hey, why don't you give
me a call? Guys, Hey, just give me a call,
Give me a call, give me a call.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Hi, Mandy, my buddy is on the radio in Dallas
Fort Worth. And he opened the mic and said the
call letters to the former station he was on. Oh,
I've done that too, the first six months of.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
A new gig at a new station.

Speaker 5 (26:52):
I have a piece of paper that I attached to
the bottoms of the computer screen and it has all
the call letters, the phone numbers and everything.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
Say it enough to memorize it.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
I don't radio pros all do that, because that's kind
of commons. It's like calling your girlfriend by your ex
girlfriend's name.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
I mean, depending on who you're dating, that's how big
a deal it is. Mandy, I never meant Bolts that
I like Tim Holtz, Mike Colts. I don't know what
that last part is, Mandy. Thanks for having Massy on.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
I'm so glad he's my congressman now in the goose
isn't so you must have moved into the district. Yes,
As I said before, we're gonna have Thomas Massey on
at one o'clock when we get back. Let's talk about
a couple of things that happened in Colorado very quickly.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Well one of them, at least the owner is horrible,
awful rotten gun bill passed. We all knew it was
going to.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
But this has created a level of barrier to firearm
ownership that, in my mind is essentially the same as
a poll tax.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Poor people will.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Probably never be able to be legal gun owners again,
just on cost alone. Well done making a whole new
class of criminals. All right, we're gonna take a quick
time out. We'll be right back after this.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Keep it on. KOA from Combs and who was Combs on?
Alan Combs?

Speaker 5 (28:19):
This is Alec Baldwin filling in on w PhD Radio
The Big Talker Sunday, May fourteenth, two thousand and six.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
When can we take some calls on them whenever we want?
Do we have calls that are on there now?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
No calls? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:32):
No, no calls yet? What number of people call to
get on the air? I do we have that number?
It's right there?

Speaker 7 (28:37):
No?

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Do I have the call number in front of me?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Oh, I'm so sorry. That's interesting. Interesting? Do you have
many calls yet?

Speaker 2 (28:44):
There?

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Ivan, no calls? Let's read more about scientology. Is Sean
Hannity a scientologist Alec Baldwin posing the big questions tonight?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Here?

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Do we have any calls here yet?

Speaker 7 (28:56):
Ivan?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
None?

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
It's just incredible, Yeah, just incredible. It's almost like you
have to work at this job. I mean, I realize
people that you tune in every day and you think
to yourself that job is going to be a piece
of cake if that lady.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
Can do it.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
But no, no, not everyone can, as demonstrated there.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
So, the Colorado House of Representatives has now passed Senate
Bill three.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
This is the worst gun.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Bill that we have ever passed in Colorado. And I
know I know what you're thinking, Mandy, how is that possible.
We've had so many bad gun bills. This one truly
creates a giant new bureaucracy and essentially a poll Tex
on weapons. They have up the ante to a level
where you better have the ability to pay for a

(29:46):
whole series of classes and permissions they're going to have
to get, or you can't get a gun legally. And
my guess is they're going to make poor people who
may live in areas of town where crime is a
significant issue and maybe they decide they need a firearm
because of what's going on in their neighborhood. Those people
are going to be far less likely to be able
to afford and invest the time in the hoops that

(30:08):
need to be jumped through. And the most insulting part
about this entire bill, and we're going to have Dave
Coppole from the Independence Institute. He's a phenomenal guy on
the Second Amendment, so we're going to talk to him
on Thursday. But the most egregious part is they have
required a gun safety or a hunter safety training course.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Now, as if somehow this is.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Going to dissuade someone who is buying a weapon for
ill intent. It's like, you know what if we just
teach him how to handle their firearms safely and properly.
Surely they won't go out and create create havoc. Surely
they won't go out.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
And do some horrible thing. Does anybody believe that this
would have.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Stopped the guy who killed Tom Sullivan's son in the
Aurora movie theater? Do you really think that this would
have stopped him a clearly mentally unwell manned This is
just another way to prevent people from legally owning firearms,
which is the endgame.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
This.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
I mean, I'm guessing that the lawsuits are already being
lined up now because I think so much of this
is clearly unconstitutional that it will be struck down, and
perhaps the Supreme Court will give a clear sort of
you know, line in the sand so everybody knows, just
stop stop messing with the Second Amendment. So that happened
under the Gold Dome and fun story. I'm working right

(31:34):
now on getting someone from the Rocky Mountain region of
the DEEA on the show about this. The DEA federal
Bureaucracy has now confirmed on Monday that it regards Colorado
as ground zero for some of the most violent criminals
in America. And the command center of a transnational gang
that originated in the prisons of Venezuela. Derek Maltz, the

(31:58):
acting director of the said, we're learning that the command
and control for the TDA and the entire United States
of America is right here in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
The gang he's referring to a.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Trend day Arragua it started in took our own penitentiary
center in arragua A State in north central Venezuela. It's
now expanded the footprint of its criminal enterprises into at
least eight Latin American countries, including Brazil, Colombia.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
And Chile.

Speaker 5 (32:27):
So the fun part about it is why in the
world would they be here. Let's just put our noggins together,
shall we. You me will really think it over. Could
it be that they felt welcomed by Denver's you know,
welcome Matt for immigrants, the welcome Matt that allowed them
to possibly get free apartments and free cell phones to

(32:49):
establish themselves here in the Denver metro. At the same time,
they managed to take over three apartment complexes while all
of the people in charge other than Daniel Drinsky kept saying,
let's not happen, but that's not happening. If it's happening,
it's just a tiny little group when in reality it
now appears to be much larger. So I would say,
I'm not saying, Okay, I'm not saying that it's Mayor

(33:14):
Mike Johnson's fault that we have trenda araga here. But
you know what I mean, Maybe we're supposed to be
excited because we've got another big HQ here, another big
headquarters right here in Denver. I bet they're hiring too,
maybe when we get back. Congressman Thomas Massey, I've been
a huge fan since I lived in the Commonwealth of Kentucky,

(33:36):
and I remain a huge fan because, frankly, he is
the guy that is fighting to truly shrink the size
of governments, something he's been trying to do since he
was elected twelve years ago, and now he's getting crap
for it from the same people who should be on
his side.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
We will talk to him next. Keep it right here
on KAWA.

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Speaker 6 (34:26):
To the second hour of the show.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
And I'm pleased as punch to have on the common
Spirit health text or excuse me hotline from the Commonwealth
of Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey. It's Sassy with Massey time
on the Mandy Connell Show. How are you today, Congressman, I'm.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
Doing well here in the swamp. Well.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
You know, I will never forget the first time that
I talked to you after you went to DC for
the first time, and you said to me, and I said,
how's DC? And she you said, well, everybody up here
thinks it's a hot tub when it's really just a swamp, right,
and and I and I that's with me so much.
And thank you for making time, because I got to
tell you my listeners were not happy with you when

(35:07):
you voted against the Continuing Resolution, and I promised them
that nobody could explain you were thinking on that better
than you. So I just want to let you kind
of lay out your thinking and a reasoning on that
for people that may not be familiar with all of
your entire body of work as a rabbel Rouser in Congress.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
Sure. So the CR is short for continuing resolution, and
what it means is, instead of doing the twelve separate
bills like we're supposed to, we do one giant bill
and we don't even rewrite the bill from last year.
We continued last year's budget. So this R was actually
Joe Biden's last year's budget. And I wasn't going to

(35:49):
lock our country into Joe Biden's budget for the first
nine months of Trump's administration. I think it's ridiculous that
we did now listen to the excuses they gave for
why we had to pass this CR. This goes all
the way back to last September. They said we've got
to do this was Mike Johnson. We've got to do

(36:09):
a CR that goes to December because we don't want
to fight before the election.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
We'll lose the.

Speaker 7 (36:15):
Majority and Trump won't win the White House. So let's
fight after the election. So they did a CR continuing
a resolution to fund the government till December. When they
said we would fight, we get to December and they said, oh, look,
we won the Senate, we won the White House, we
kept the House. It would be foolish for us to
fight here in December, left fight in January on the spending.

(36:37):
And then they said, well, wait, wait, wait, wait January,
Trump's not going to have enough time to get cabinet
in and decide what we want to do by then,
let's kick it to March. So they kicked it to March.
We get to March. What's the excuse after six months
of doing this crap? Oh, we don't have enough time?
What you don't have enough time being surprised by the
March deadline? Congress being surprised is like a florist being

(37:00):
surprised by Valentine's debt. It's on the calendar, it's been coming.
It's like, we have to deal with this every year.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Now, let me ask you this question, and I already
know the answer, so I'm just going to softball it
up for you. You've now been in Congress for twelve years.
What has happened in that twelve years to harden or
soften your view about the Republican leadership's ability to get
significant spending cuts past.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
I have watched enough of them. At first, Like with
John Bayner when he was Speaker, you had to believe
he was just incompetent he lost every spending fight with
Barack Obama in the White House, and this was after
the Tea party wave, and at first you think maybe
he's just incompetent or not that good. No, you can't

(37:52):
lose every fight. You have told get something. So I
decided they're playing on the same team. And if you
use that model, it's been fairly accurate. The Republicans and
the Democrats are up here. They're both on team spending.
They agree to each other's spending increases, and that's how
they get that's what they call compromise. Instead of saying
I'll cut this much of mine and you cut this

(38:13):
much of yours, they both agree to spend more in
each of their departments. It's the same playbook every single time.
And what's convinced me that I'm right is the history
of saying this is what's going to happen, and then
it happens. Like look at that fight on the cr
in the House where Rakeem jeffres in this corner and
Mike Johnson in this corner, you know, weighing in at

(38:34):
two hundred and twenty one representatives going toe to toe
on what was actually Joe Biden's budget. It was a
fake fight. And I made a video it says it's
a fake fight. You're going to find out when it
goes to the Senate because in the Senate the Democrats
will vote for it, right, And that's because they need
sixty votes to pass it. How does that know they
were going to vote for it? Well, this is the

(38:56):
Democrats weren't going to shut the government down. They had
they had a retreat set up where they were going
to have special speakers and parties and drinks, and they
weren't even going to.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Be in town.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
And when the government oftensively would shut down. And then
Mike Johnson sent us all home after we passed it.
He was so sure this was going to pass in
the Senate he sent us home. And that's when I said, Okay,
this is the fix is in here. I got to
tell the public what's going on. Then they say, and
by the way, this, let me give you an example.

(39:26):
Are the Trump getting held up in the courts on
the things that he wants to cut right, USAD and whatnot?
And one week after we fully funded not me, I
voted against it. One week after Democrats and Republicans passed
the bill and President Trump signed it that fully funds
the Department of Education for the next nine months. They

(39:48):
do a press conference saying they're going to end the
Department of Education. The problem is the court. Somebody's going
to take them to court and say, oh, wait, you
passed a law and you signed the law this says
you're going to fund the Department of Education, and now
by executive order, you're not going to do the thing
that you sign. It's a stretch, and that's you're not

(40:08):
going to get those things.

Speaker 6 (40:10):
Well, this is exactly the point that I have been
trying to make.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
And the point is everybody who's excited about all of
the cuts that DOGE has been finding and unearthing and
firing these people and getting rid of the USA, they
mean nothing unless Congress passes the legislation that has to
pass in order to lock these things into legislation. They're
just they're a pig cross promise. When they're in executive order,
you know they're they're easily made, easily broken. So my

(40:34):
frustration is, to your point, what we're all excited about,
the exact opposite is happening in Congress.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
It is out there on two different trajectories. Reality and
what is being promoted right now are two different things.
There is one hope though, Mandy. There's something called recisions.
If the White House requests not to spend money, not
where they were. This is different from the stuff that
he's been held up in court, like when he said

(41:03):
I'm not going to pay USAI dam the court right,
you got to pay USAA day. This is actually in law,
this process where the President is budget manager or whatever
can send to Congress or request for some funding they
don't want to spend, and then we vote to rescind
that money. And it only takes fifty one votes to
pass that and Senate I am all for that. But

(41:25):
what I want to know is why haven't we started it?
Why are you know we named several post offices a
week up here, but usually on Monday, you know, you
fly in and you name a few post offices and
call it a day, and then you know, get up
on Tuesday and do something else. Why don't if we're
naming post offices on Monday, why don't on Friday we

(41:46):
pass recisions? And it's not like this reconciliation thing where
you only get one or two shots at it every year.
As far as I know, you could you could do
a recision every week.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
I have an article today from the The Hill dot
com and the headline is GOP senators warned Trump agenda
will be slowed by internal divisions. Now this is the
least surprising headline that I've seen in some time. But
now they're saying the Senate isn't likely to pass President
Trump's border security, energy and tax agenda until July at
the earliest. Is so, I mean, they're not even moving

(42:21):
forward with that yet. So it is it a bridge
too far to think the recisions? Are they started in
the House? Is that how they work?

Speaker 7 (42:29):
I believe the process culls from them to be started
at the White House and then ah, then like we
have to receive a request from the White House and
then we act on that. I think that then the
Senate has to vote on it with fifty one votes.
I believe that's how it's structured.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
So let me ask you. Let me ask you this question.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
I mean, do you see any real and I'm talking
about like, you know, the conversations that happen in the
cloakroom conversations.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
Is there any real will in the Republican.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Party in the House to rock in the destruction of
usaid to lock in the Department of Education bill, which,
by the way, you've already filed.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
Is there any real will there's this all just more theater.

Speaker 7 (43:10):
By the way, Yeah, I do have the build end
the Department of Education. And now when they bring that
bill to the floor, they're going to put somebody else's
name on it. They're not going to give me any
credit for having done that for the last eight years
and building public support, explaining to people why it's good
for education, not bad for education, to leave these decisions
up to the states and teachers and parents. So you know,

(43:38):
what will we get out of all this? What was
your question again?

Speaker 5 (43:41):
No, I don't even know at this point. I mean, honestly,
it's like there's just so much going on.

Speaker 6 (43:46):
I do have a question. I have a couple of
questions from our text line.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
One of them is I get his thoughts on it,
but he knew it would still pass without him speaking
of the continuing resolution, it was a show vote, which
is fine, But how will he vote on Trump's agenda
when he is the winning vote? Do you want to
address the concept of a show vote.

Speaker 7 (44:06):
The concept of a show vote. Well, I'm honestly, I'm
giving people hope. I call it the hope vote. Okay,
they hope and pray that there's somebody up here who
hasn't completely changed their principles based on who is the president.
Is like, now is it that all Republicans can be
big spenders? And it's thought, Look, I can't control anybody's vote,

(44:30):
but mine. I pressed put my voting card in and
press that button. I would dearly love to have the
Freedom Caucus with me on that. The problem is they're
afraid of Trump. I got attacked by Trump for voting, though,
and why did I get attacked if they didn't need
my vote? Think about it and then they know. I mean,

(44:50):
I had conversations with the president. The last conversation I
had with him was two weeks after the election, and
I said, you've got six months to get your agenda
before the Senate just starts tying you up like molasses.
And he agreed, like, this mandate doesn't last four years,

(45:11):
it doesn't even last two years. It lasts about six months,
and then they will just like a boxer, just sort
of hug you and tie you up. So no, it
wasn't a show vote. I was disappointed that the Freedom
Caucus was not with me. I was disappointed that the
other complaint I hear people say, and maybe this particular
listener has the same complaint. Well, what was Massey's plan?

(45:34):
What would he have done? Okay? I would have passed
the twelve bills, Like the nineteen seventy four Budget Act
calls for twelve separate bills funning twelve different parts of
the government the president. This wouldn't make Trump have way
more power because his options wouldn't be shut the government
down or not shut the government down. He would have

(45:55):
twelve bills there in front of him. And if you
had a disagreement on the Department of Education, he could
refuse to fund that until we got to some he
refused to sign that one of the twelve bills or usaid,
he could refuse to sign one of the twelve bills
that fund the State Department. Okay, but that leaves ten

(46:16):
twelves to the government. Open the frank, you know, the
TSA still working, the fight controllers are still in the tower,
all that, and so you're not presenting him with a
false you know, a false choice. That's what I would
have done. That's what the raw calls for us to do.
That's what I've been saying for twelve years. The thing

(46:38):
is the uniparty does not like that. They want it
to be all or nothing. The government's going to shut
down or it's not going to shut down. What a
horrible way to run government. And we you know, we're
always told you're going to fight with will fight when
we get to Senate and when we get the White House.
We've got the House, the Senate, and the White House.
And show me, show me the first fight we've had

(47:01):
here in the House of Representatives. That's not a fake fight.
When's it going to happen?

Speaker 5 (47:05):
I'm waiting for and I'm sure, I'm sure you're ready.
I've got a Texter who said, why doesn't he introduce
twelve spending bills?

Speaker 7 (47:16):
Well, it takes a while to write them.

Speaker 9 (47:21):
I did.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
I did introduce and get passed into law a bill
that says and this was passed into law. It's part
of two years ago when we raised the debt limit
and they needed my vote to get it through rules committee.
I said, okay, I'll do that if you put a
provision in law. By the way, Joe Biden signed this,
the Senate passed it. This provision that was attached to
that debt limit increase that says, if you don't do

(47:42):
twelve separate bills, you don't do the appropriations process. If
you do a CR, everything gets cut one percent if
it goes past April. If it goes past April thirty, well,
here's Mike Johnson, got his legal scholars and parliamentarians, and
because everybody agreed to it, can get away with it.
I suppose they said, because we're doing the Continuing Resolution

(48:04):
all the way to September thirty, it's the end of
the fiscal year, it counts as twelve separate appropriations bill.

Speaker 6 (48:10):
Oh my god. And that's the Republican Speaker of the
House that did that.

Speaker 7 (48:14):
Yeah, he totally was ignoring the law that gives him
an automatic one percent cut across the board.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
I'm talking to Congressman Thomas Massey. Sorry about that. I
want to let people know who's speaking here.

Speaker 7 (48:29):
Man.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
That's frustrating, and this is you know, Thomas.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
I my whole life, my dad was a Reagan Republican,
and my whole life I've always been told that the
Republican Party is the party of fiscal responsibility. But if
I am a thinking, rational person. That ship sailed so
long ago, and I don't know how to get it
back on track. Why don't you offer a bill that
would say if you run a deficit, if there's a
budget deficit, no one is allowed to run for reelection.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
I bet they would fix it.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Then that would be great. Or you can't leave town
and go campaign for your own reelection. In the state
of Kentucky, by the way, they're not allowed to raise
money while they're in session, and that maybe the deal
in Colorado. I don't know. This is for the state
legislature I'm talking about, and somebody suggests that we should

(49:18):
do that for Congress, that you can't raise money while
you're in session. But then somebody pointed out the net
result of that is you have really short sessions.

Speaker 6 (49:28):
But you know what, that's not a bad thing.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
That's not a bad thing. It compressed the session to
thirty days out of the year, and then the fundraising
becomes the other three hundred and thirty five days. You
could try to make rules, but it's only as good.
The rules are only as good as the people that
you elected to follow those rules, because for any given rule,
they'll just suspend it if they get two hundred and

(49:50):
eighteen votes. Here in the uniparty always has two hundred
and eighteen votes.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Congressman, I'd love to know your thoughts on the speed
with which because you mentioned earlier that you advised Trump
to get as much of his agenda dine in six
months before the Senate locked him up, have you been
shocked by the speed with which he has unfurled executive
orders and what are your thoughts on those executive orders overall?

Speaker 6 (50:14):
Because I've always known you to be a constitutional guy.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
Oh, I think they're wonderful. I mean, everybody in the
executive branch works for the president. And this is the
thing that Trump failed to realize in the first administration.
He kind of assumed this line that the DOJ is
some fourth branch of government, that the Attorney General doesn't
work for the president, or the FBI director doesn't work

(50:41):
for the president. He went along too long under that
false premise. But this time he understands it, he's doing it.
I give him a ninety five percent on executive orders.
I'm not going to be a big fan of the tariff,
but the reality is I just gave him that authority.

(51:01):
I went and looked it up and if there's four
different bills that passed mainly in like the sixties and
seventies where they gave the President of the authority to
do tariff. So with the exception of tariff, I'm going
to give him an a plus on the things that
he's done by executive order. He can still be doing
more and he needs to work. He needs to tell

(51:23):
Mike Johnson that you need to start passing my agenda
in the House and putting the Senate on the spot
while we've still got the momentum.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
I agree, I agree wholeheartedly.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
What are your thoughts on maybe at some point your
chances of running for Mitch mcconnell'sy.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
That's the same circus with different monkeys. I can from
my office window, I can see the Senate side of
the Capitol here and it really is not much different.
You you know, my Twitter account wouldn't change, my salary
wouldn't change. By work hours wouldn't change. They say, oh,

(52:08):
but you'll be one of one hundred instead of one
of four hundred and thirty five. Well, it doesn't really
matter when you're the only one fighting some days. If
you're just a one. So I am not likely to
run for that seat.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
I like the phrase not likely. You know, never close
the door entirely. You never know what's going to happen
in the future. One last question before I allow you
to get back to real work, and that is this,
I'd love to know your thoughts on the judges, federal
judges who have been overruling or staying some of these
executive orders we just talked about.

Speaker 7 (52:44):
Oh my gosh, well again, by the way, I'm missing
a judiciary back room meeting on this very topic to
be on your show. It was like an impromptu meeting
that was called by Mike Johnson with our Judiciary Committee,
because all impeachments would come from our committee, and so
this is something we would we would have to start
in our committee. Danny, this is this is This gets

(53:09):
back to what I said before. Congress's biggest power is
whether you fund it or not. If we would take
Trump's agenda and put it in the spending bill and
pass that and have Trump sign it, there's no argument
the court can make the Court cannot make Congress spend
money that it doesn't spend the power of the person.

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I was in a meeting, a breakfast meeting with Anton
and Scalia and about a dozen of my Republican colleagues.
This is before that he was a Supreme Court justice
before he passed away. And my colleagues were like, well,
the executive branch has too much power. We need the
judicial branch to step in. And Scalia said, I'm just
not my job to referee fights between judicial and executive

(53:53):
or Congress and executive. And you're the most powerful branch anyway,
and you have all the power you need. And somebody said,
but impeachment, it's too hard. Justice he said, I'm not
talking about impeachment. You're funding everything you complained that Obama
is doing. So yeah, this should not be a question
because we you know, we control the House in the Senate.

(54:16):
Why don't we pass legislation and take this out of
the court's hands about whether the president has that power
or whether he has to do what Congress said, let's
get off of the Biden train tracks and get on
the Trump train tracks. And right, but Congress is doing
a cut copy paste of Biden's budget. That's what the
CR was. This, This enables the courts to say Trump's

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got to do it. That CR does.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Yep, Congressman Thomas Massey. I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
I appreciate you skipping a very important meeting to have
this conversation, and I am cheering you on always from
AFAR and especially on Twitter. If you want to follow
his sasse with Massey commentary on Twitter, you can do so.
I put a link on the blog today at mandy'slog
dot com.

Speaker 6 (54:57):
Thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 7 (54:58):
Today, Thanks man and being in Colorado with you.

Speaker 5 (55:02):
All Right, man, that's Congressman Thomas Massey. That is just
and you know, somebody says, thank you very much, Mandy
for asking my questions.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
The speaker sounds a.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
Little shady, and I'd love to ask the follow up question,
which part of I'm not going to continue to vote
for Joe Biden's budget I watched Republicans do the same
things that Democrats do.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
Which part was shady and shady in what way?

Speaker 5 (55:28):
I'm curious about that because, as I said before, he's
the only member of Congress that I know of that
is just saying, look, just do things by the rules.
Do you think it's any coincidence that we have seen
an absolute explosion in our budget deficit at the same
time continuing resolutions started to be using started to being

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used on a regular basis to fund it. Of course,
not because a continuing resolution is so big that everybody
gets their little grift in there. Everybody gets their little
finger in the pie. Everybody gets their little money for
their districts so they can continue to buy votes.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
That's why they do it.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
No one is trying to save us money, No one
except right now, Donald Trump, Elon.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
Musk and Thomas Massey. Who knows. We'll see what happens next.
We'll be back right after this. Keep it on, Koa.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
I've had a lot of this coverage of this story
on the blog, but I haven't talked about it because
there hasn't really been a high profile case yet that
has been affected by the alleged malfeasance of the former
head of CBI's forensics department. Her name is Missy Woods,

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and she was the provider of a lot of evidence
for a lot of cases. And now it's been alleged
quite clearly and I think significantly, that she lied on
some of her work. So now the retesting of her
work has begun in earnest and one of the first

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hope high profile cases that could be overturned because of
it is the conviction of Michael Clark.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
Michael Clark was at the scene of an unsolved murder or.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
Now, excuse me, was accused of an unsolved nineteen ninety
four murder. The police suspected him because he did admit
to having either checks or something of the victim. It
had robbed the guy, but he says, I robbed him,
but I didn't kill him. Well, Missy Woods back in

(57:38):
two thy twelve tested a jar of Carmec's lip bomb
that had been recovered from the scene of the murder,
and she testified that it matched the DNA of Michael Clark.
So they've now retested the evidence and a Virginia firm
found that the DNA collected from its swab inside the

(58:00):
RX container is not consistent with Michael Clark. So Michael
Clark's attorney has filed emotion and evidentiary hearing.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
He's asking for it.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
And you know, this could be the beginning of undoing
an unjust prosecution.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
And I really think that, like.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
If I had someone I loved or knew of someone
that I strongly believed was innocent, I would be looking
right now to find out if Missy Woods had handled
the evidence because it's clear that she did some things
that probably put some people who did not deserve to
be in jail in jail. And this kind of stuff
is super upsetting to me because when you have this
kind of responsibility and this kind of power, you have

(58:44):
to be held to account for this. Anytime someone in
a position that can deprive someone else of their life,
liberty and pursuit of happiness, I think that's a really
serious responsibility, and those who abuse use that position need.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
To be held to a very very high standard.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
And I hope she goes to jail for a long
time because she certainly has put people in jail for
a long time. Now, I want to direct your attention
to a different story. Actually, it's our column by our
friend Jimmy Sanckenberger in the Denver Gazette. Remember, it was
just a few short years ago, on March twenty second
of twenty twenty three, when there was a shooting at

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East High School. The shooting involved a student who was
already on a safety plan. Safety plans we found out
from this incident are plans that require students who have
been charged with violent crimes or gun related crimes.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
If they want or are.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Allowed to come back to school, they have to be
padded down every day. And since Taite Anderson was so
good at getting school resource officers out of the schools,
this had to be done by administrators every day, administrators
who were not trained on what to do if the
kid freaks out, pulls out a gun shoots them, which
is exactly what happened at East High School, and in

(01:00:04):
a tragic end to the story, this young person, who
was obviously very troubled, ended up taking his own life. Now,
you would think that Denver Public Schools would have investigated
this incident six ways to Sunday.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
They would have wanted to know why it happened, how
it happened.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Where the failures were, what measures need to be taken
in other situations that might be similar to this one.
But the entire investigation of Denver Public Schools did not
extend to Liz Kerrn, a counselor in East High School,
who was in the auditorium for an assembly when a
student rushed to her and said there was just a shooting.

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This from the Denver Gazette, expecting another incident outside the
school like the shooting that killed student Lewis Garcia. The
month before she grabbed her radio and ran. A colleague
emerged from the dean's office, hurling as radio against the lockers.
In anguish, she said, I knew something terrible. It happened.
Two deans, her close friends, Eric Sinclair and Wayne Mason,

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had been shot inside the school.

Speaker 6 (01:01:06):
By a student who fled the scene.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
She was there and held their hands while paramedics got
there to save their lives. They were both critically injured,
but both have survived. And you know what number of
dps has come to Miss Current to talk to her
about her experiences that day. Not a single member of
Denver Public Schools, not a single person has come to

(01:01:32):
talk to these people to investigate what happened at East
High School. I mean, this is absurd, but it is
another example of the incompetent leadership of Denver Public Schools.
And guess what Denver's school board is about to extend
the contract of Superintendent Alex Marrero, a man who decided

(01:01:54):
to set such high goals for himself, like a one
percent increase in student scores one Now, that would be
great if students were blazing a trail in the Denver
Public school system.

Speaker 6 (01:02:05):
But they are not not even close. By the way,
they are ignoring their own.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
Disciplined matrix, the disciplined matrix, which is this redic If
you've ever seen the DPS disciplined matrix, you know that
it is designed to obfuse gate whether or not any
punishments are actually given out. And now DPS is ignoring
their own discipline matrix. Yeah, so this is just And

(01:02:38):
Jimmy says this, and I think he's right, he says
in the column. No wonder DPS hasn't bothered investigating. They'd
have to admit their policies failed. Instead, Marrero keeps his
hand on his head in the sand, claiming last fall,
our schools have always been safe. Our response has been incredible,
but we can't foresee the unexpected. So no one thought

(01:02:59):
when they loud students who are accused of violent crimes
to come back into the classroom instead, by the way
we all learned during COVID at online.

Speaker 6 (01:03:09):
School is a thing. Right these kids, they deserve the
right to get an education.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
They don't deserve to be in the classroom if they
have expressed and demonstrated that they are potentially dangerous. It's
simply not fair to the rest of the students in
the school, and it's not reasonable. Any reasonable person would
have said if these kids in the criminal justice system
accused of violence, and we're talking about violent crimes like
attempted murder, these are not like, oh, they punch somebody

(01:03:37):
in the face. No, these are crimes with a weapon,
weapons by the way, that they all possessed illegally. And
you watch what's going on and it's like, my gosh,
I'm glad that my daughter is almost out of high
school and and I'm almost done with this nonsense because
in too many districts around the Metro area, there are

(01:04:00):
people running the show who are so invested in virtue
signaling the right thing, making sure that they can't be
accused of being racist, and I don't know, essentially doing
everything they can to prevent greater safety measures for students.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
I mean, as I say it, I'm like, what, how
is that even possible?

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
And yet we see it over and over again where
they put whatever stupid just clap trap ideology that they
believe in over the safety of.

Speaker 6 (01:04:31):
Students, and DPS is the perfect example of this. How
have they not I mean, you guys, if you're a
teacher at East High School?

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
How have you not been all up in DPS is
grilled trying to get somebody to investigate something to make
sure that you don't have another shooting at your high
school after two within a one month period. How are
they not agitating to find out more. I just I'm
baffled by it. I don't know why it's okay. I
don't know why it's so.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Okay for parents.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
And there was a group Atny's time, a group of
parents that all got together and demanded, you know, do something.
I wonder if they know that no one has investigated
what happened that day, at least talk to the people
that were immediately involved with it. I mean, you would
think that would be where the investigation might start. We're
gonna take a quick time out. We will be back
right after this. And when we get back, Uh, we

(01:05:27):
gotta talk about lightrail for a second. No, No, we
have to talked about something so stupid that I have
to talk about it. But I don't want to spend
a ton of time on it. And it has to
do with this TikTok trend where I guess you're supposed
to test how late you can get to the airport.
I'm gonna tell you the multiple ways. This is the
dumbest idea possible. When we get back, keep it on, KOA.
Are you a get to the airport early guy? Or

(01:05:49):
are you a just in time guy?

Speaker 6 (01:05:51):
Or you a let's skate in and see how closed
we can cut it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
I'm gonna have you guessed because you damn well knows
you the answer.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
I am gonna say you are get there early guy.

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
Two hours for dastic, three hours for international if it's
a customs deal.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
Well, some of these dingbats on TikTok are apparently pushing
something they call the airport theory, which says you can
get there like fifteen minutes before the flight leaves and
still make your flight. Now, I do have a caveat
here in some airports, like a rod if we got
to Long Beach with just to carry on right, we
can make it from the parking lot.

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
To the plane in time to catch that flight easily.

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
Long Beach has like ten gates, eleven total. It's delightful.
It's cute. It's like a little baby airport.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
It's so cute.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
Yeah, it's adorable.

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
So where you can get off the plane ride unto
the tarmac.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Well, you can do that depending on the flight you
have pretty much anywhere. I mean, depending on what your
airline is doing and chat ways and things like that. Anyway,
I digress. This kind of stuff drives me crazy because
you know what it leads to. It leads to some
young person younger than me. Can I go ahead of
you on TSA I'm running late? And I'm like, nope, sorry,

(01:07:01):
your emergency, your failure to plan is not my emergency.
And I've seen these people and I've suspected this long
ago that they were just getting there too late. Now
I'm like, no, no, sir or madam, no, sir, not
one bit. I am to get to the airport early
so I could leave my phone in the bathroom.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
That's what I'm all about.

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
At the airport, I will say, Denver International Airport is
starting to look good again.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Sure, there's still a ton of construction.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Going on, right The new TSA pre chet or the
new security checks are fantastic, a delight.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
Did you find them to be no?

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Ayrod, you walked through with hoy POLOI in the regular
security check, did you find that to be a delight
as well?

Speaker 6 (01:07:44):
Did you go to the new checkpoint? Did you go
through the new security checkpoint?

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Oh you didn't. Oh, it's it's so nice.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
I I like going through the big one. I never
really had issues most of the time.

Speaker 7 (01:07:55):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Yeah, I'm telling you, once you go to the new one,
you'll be like, how did I ever slum it in
that big What I do?

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
I just accept things like that. It's fine, it's normal.
It's not that often.

Speaker 5 (01:08:05):
So U you know, well, can that's all going away? No,
it's all going away. So they're gonna move you to
the other one as soon as the other side's done.
But there are parts of the airport, like there's new
gates that are beautiful, there's new restaurants.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
I mean, the airport's starting to look good again.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
But the last three times I've been there, I've gone
into bathrooms that were disgustingly dirty. And all I can
think of the whole time I'm in these disgustingly dirty
bathrooms is didn't we just give the janitors a raise?
Didn't they strike, like not even a year ago to
get more money, and they gave them all big raises.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
The bathrooms are disgusting. Not very happy about that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
I gotta tell you, I don't know what bathrooms are
going into because yours been spark sparkling great.

Speaker 9 (01:08:44):
Yeah, Now I will say most of them, well most
of them, because you do stuff right in the beginning
of like Terminal CEA, which is mainly southwest, if not
all southwest, Like those new parts you mentioned are beautiful,
but the other ones have been really good too, So
I don't know what manthrooms are going into.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
So this is the mid day.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
I was going where I was leaving, actually no, we
were coming back. Chuck had gone to get the truck.
I was gonna get the luggage. I stopped right there
by the luggage to use the restroom, and of course
I go in the oldly stall that I'm aware of
that has no toilet paper, but I don't realize it
until things have already happened, right, So then I'm sitting
in this airport bathroom. Not a soul walks in there.

(01:09:24):
Nobody else walks in that can give me some toilet paper.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
So I literally called Chuck.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
I'm like, I am in the bathroom right now and
there's no toilet paper, and there's no people in this bathroom.
And then finally another woman walked in and she gave
me some toilet paper and.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
I went on my way.

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
But that kind of stuff frustrating, really, really frustrating, Mandy.
At almost fifty three years of age, I don't need
the adrenaline rush of getting to my flight just in time,
a men, fellow traveler.

Speaker 9 (01:09:49):
Can we be real though, this method as dumb as
it sounds, and I would never do it. Ninety percent
of the time, it would be fine. Honestly, most of us.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
You're not checking bags.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
Like, if you don't check your bag thirty minutes before
the flight, at least you are.

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
Really rolling down.

Speaker 9 (01:10:05):
Will never ever, Yeah, with check it all has to
be carry on bags has secured percent the only way
that this theory works. But with that said, ninety percent
of time, if you were not checking a bag, this
theory would work. But if you ever were to test it,
if you ever were to test it, you well know
that would be the one time that it would be
up securities forty minutes and you're.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Correct, it would never take that chance. It's never worth
a chance, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
It was a different topic, but my friend told me
once that people who are late are selfish. Took me
a while to come to agree, but I started watching
people like this and now I fully agree they are selfish,
only thinking of themselves and nobody else. I agree with
this to a certain extent, unless you're dealing with a
person who has ADHD, because ADHD messes with your sense

(01:10:52):
of how long it's going to take you to do something,
and they often underestimate how long it's going to take
them to get somewhere. But that being said, if you
yell at them, they'll do better for you. I mean,
that's just how I was just peeing. Thank you for
asking Texter what my potty habits were. Yeah, yeah, anyway,
we're gonna take a quick time out. When we get back,
I want to do a touch back to a conversation

(01:11:14):
we had earlier about this ridiculous sharing of a signal
app chat where they discussed Yemen war plans. We've got
an update from a congressional hearing. Oh boy, wait to
hear this when we get back.

Speaker 6 (01:11:27):
Keep it on KOA.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
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Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Welcome, welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.
I'm excited to have us for a full hour, three
hours of show today. It's just been magical, magical for me.
I hope it has been for you. We started the
show today talking about some stuff on the blog, which
you can always find at mandy'sblog dot com. Look for
the latest posts and then look for the headline that

(01:12:15):
says three twenty five twenty five blog and that's going
to be today's No, no, no, I'm not going through
the whole thing again, although you know, some days we
should do that in the other hours just because they
miss it, right, because not everybody listens to the whole show.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
Those of you that do listen to the whole show,
you were my favorite. I'm all they're familiar with that. No,
we're not tell the band to pipe down.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
The band headed hard after they played their opening gig
and now they're all passed out on the twos.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
Yet there you go. Nope, we're just that's okay, guys,
Just lay back down, go to sleep.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
The big story of the day today is that, uh, yesterday,
Jeffrey Goldberg, who is the editor of the Atlantic a
left wing magazine. He is a noted anti Trumper, but
someone in the Trump administration.

Speaker 6 (01:13:01):
Added him to a private discussion on.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
Telegraph excuse me, signal, an encrypted messaging app, where they
were discussing strikes on the Houthis. The Houthis have shut
down a major shipping channel, but it's a major shipping
channel for Europe, not for US.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
And I believe that Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
Wants to go after the Houthies because he is working
very diligently to destroy Iran's proxies in the region, dismantling Hesbela,
disrupting permanently Hamas, and now going after the Houthies.

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
Okay, I think he's doing this to avoid war with Iran.

Speaker 5 (01:13:39):
This is based on Donald Trump's history is an anti
war guy, and he is. But this has been an
abject embarrassment for the Trump administration officials that were on
that message, and some of them sat before John Ossoff
in a hearing today and I just want to play

(01:14:01):
just a tiny bit of this.

Speaker 10 (01:14:02):
Director Ratcliffe, you were a member of the who DPC
small group signal chain.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Correct.

Speaker 10 (01:14:08):
I was, yeah, and so were the Vice President, the
Secretaries of State and Defense, the National Security advisor and
miss Gabvert.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Correct, I believe so.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
I don't have a list of who was invited in.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
And so was National political reporter Jeffrey Goldberg.

Speaker 4 (01:14:23):
Correct, I don't know that, Yes you do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
I don't know Jeffrey Goldberg and already testified. I don't
know whether or how he was added.

Speaker 10 (01:14:35):
Okay, Well, he was a member of the signal chain,
and the discussion included the Vice president's private opinion on
the wisdom of proposed US strikes and Yemen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Correct, I don't recall vance quote. I think we are
making a mistake.

Speaker 10 (01:14:49):
I am not sure the President is aware of how
inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now.
There was a strong argument for delaying this a month.
You don't recall as you don't recall seeing that read that.
I don't It included the private opinions of the Secretary
of Defense on the timing of strikes in Yemen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Correct, I don't recall, Director Ratcliffe. Surely you prepared for
this hearing today.

Speaker 10 (01:15:16):
You are part of a group of principles senior echelons
of the US government, and now a widely publicized breach
of sensitive information. You don't recall whether the Vice President
opined on the wisdom of the strikes. That's your testimony
today under oath.

Speaker 4 (01:15:32):
In that setting, I don't recall.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Here's what Secretary accept said quote.

Speaker 10 (01:15:37):
Waiting a few weeks or months does not fundamentally change
the calculus.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Two immediate risks on waiting. One this leaks and.

Speaker 10 (01:15:44):
We look indecisive to Israel takes an action first, or
Gaza cease fire falls apart and we don't get to
start this on our own terms your testimonies, you don't
recall the Secretary of Defense setting that message or reading it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
I recall there being any change. I don't recall the
specifics as you're reading it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
So that's not a good look for CIA Director John Ratcliffe.
First of all, I mean not for nothing, Grinn, I
don't talk about important things on you know, group chat
messages that would directly be related to the security of
the country. Ever, so maybe maybe that didn't stick out.

(01:16:26):
Maybe maybe CIA Director John Ratcliffe is so so used
to seeing war plans discussed in signal chats that for
him it just why commit that to memory?

Speaker 6 (01:16:39):
Why why would you do that?

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
It does make me question his memory overall, But this
is just an appalling. Look, but on the other side
of this issue, Jeffrey Goldberg on Inside with Jen Saki
seems to be walking.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
Back his.

Speaker 5 (01:16:58):
Discussion or his you of the words war plans in
his description of the signal messages.

Speaker 11 (01:17:06):
Reponsible here and not disclose the things that I read
and saw.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
I will describe them to you.

Speaker 11 (01:17:16):
The specific time of a future attack, specific targets.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Including human targets.

Speaker 11 (01:17:25):
Meant to be killed in that attack, weapons systems, even
even weather reports or you know that the government is is.
I don't know why Hexcept was sharing it with everybody.
I mean, the precise detail and then and then a
long section on sequencing this is going to happen, then
that is going to happen, After that happens, This happens,

(01:17:47):
then that happens, and then we go and find out
if it worked. I mean, you know, he can say
that it wasn't a war plan, but uh, it was
a it was a in it by minute accounting of
what was about to happen organized.

Speaker 6 (01:18:06):
So you can decide whether or not whether all those
things make it a war plan. Kind of sounds like
one to me, just a little bit. Here's the thing,
you guys. The cover up is always worse than the crime, always, always, always.

Speaker 7 (01:18:20):
And.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
If politicians would just learn that and take the heat
up front and just come forward and say, yeah, this
was a colossal screw up, and here's how it happened,
here's who added him, here's why he was at whatever,
Just cop to it, move on. But unfortunately, everybody wants
to run for cover. Everybody wants to pretend like it
didn't happen. Everybody wants to think that the Internet's not forever.

Speaker 6 (01:18:45):
It's all insane.

Speaker 7 (01:18:47):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
A lot of people, when we talked about this earlier
on the show, were very quick to say.

Speaker 6 (01:18:51):
But you know what, maybe this was an on purpose leak.
Maybe that's what it was, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
If the reporter thought it was so dangerous, why did
he blast it all over everywhere? To be clear, he
didn't blast out the war plans. He was very very
careful in what he disclosed. And a lot of people
are attacking Jeffrey Goldberg for leaking this in the first place.
This is the kind of transparency that I want my
government to have, and not just when Democrats are in power.

(01:19:20):
And I urge you before you excuse this or brush
it off as rookie mistake or make light of it
or whatever you're thinking. Just think for a second, what
if this had happened during the Biden administration? How would
you feel about it? Then, Mandy, he's getting grilled over
the conversation. Who cares except that it shouldn't be done
over an app Correct? Correct, Mandy A Fox News is right?

(01:19:46):
And it was a staffer or could it be a
Biden holdover? Most of the time staffers at that level
are pitched, not all the time. I don't know, I
do not know anyway, we are going to be back
right after this. Keep it on, Koa, Mandy. How was
the European press reporting the signal breach considering the anti

(01:20:07):
europe sentiment, Well, this from BBC dot com headline Katya
Adler disdain for Europe and US signal chat horrifies EU.
Horrific to see in black and white. But hardly surprising
is how a top European diplomat reacted to what comes
across as a deep heartfelt disdain for European allies revealed

(01:20:29):
late Monday, seemingly by accident.

Speaker 6 (01:20:32):
And then they go through how it happened in the chat.

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
Vice President jd Vance notes that only three percent of
US trade runs through the canal Cus Canal, as opposed
to forty percent of European trade, after which he and
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth complain of European freeloading.

Speaker 6 (01:20:49):
And that's a quote.

Speaker 5 (01:20:50):
The monumental security breach is causing a ruckus at home,
with Democrats calling for Hegsa's resignation as a result. Across
the pond, Europe's leaders and policy makers felt quote sick
to their stomach. As an EU official put it to me,
officials quoted here are speaking on anonymity. Vance first stunned
European officials with his speech last month condemning the continent

(01:21:14):
for having misplaced values such as protecting abortion clinics and
censoring speech in the media and online. Monday's signal chat
strikes at the heart of a slew of tensions, discomfort,
and plain old fear in Europe right now that the
Trump administration can no longer be relied on as the
continent's greatest ally, this at a time when Europe is

(01:21:34):
facing off against a resurgent Russia. But then, to the
BBC's credit, they include this, but it is precisely the
fact that so riles up. The Trump administration has cemented
Europe in its mind as freeloaders.

Speaker 6 (01:21:48):
While the US commits.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
Three point seven percent of its colossal GDP to defense,
it's taken the majority of European partners in Transatlantic Defense
Alliance NATO until recently to KAF even two percent of GDP. Some,
like big economies Spain and Italy aren't even there yet,
although they say they plan to be soon. Europe relies
heavily on the used, amongst other things, for intelligence, for

(01:22:11):
aerial defense capabilities, and for its nuclear umbrella. With the
phasing out of conscription in most European countries, the continent
also relies on the one hundred thousand battle ready US
troops stationed in Europe to help act as deterrents against
potential aggressors. Europeans have focused more on investing in welfare
and social services than defense, collective or otherwise, since the

(01:22:34):
fall of the Soviet Union and the end of the
Cold War. Why on earth should the US pick up
the slack as the Trump administration and then they go
on to talk about more of the stuff that is
in the group chat, and rightfully so point out that
when nsa national Security advisor Michael Waltz laments the state

(01:22:55):
of Europe's naval forces. He's right, because they don't have
naval forces, they don't have soldiers, they don't have anything.
But they have free health care and extremely generous benefits
because they've been able to redirect that money into other things,
because we have been there to have their back when

(01:23:15):
it comes to defense. I know this is all very unsettling,
and I don't like being at odds with our traditional
and longtime allies. But there's a big part of me,
a significant part of me, that is really happy that
someone is finally.

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
Putting to the screws to them so they can participate.

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
In their own defense at the same level that we
are participating in their defense. At a time when we
are spending trillions of dollars, we don't have one point
eight trillion dollars is this fiscal year's deficit. That's money
that's going to have to be paid back by your
kids and your grandkids and my kids and my grandkids.

(01:23:56):
I'm glad that we're finally saying, wait a minute, why
are we doing this? What do we get out of
this alliance? We've got a notion on both sides. I'm
sorry it had to happen this way, but I don't
see anything in recent history or memory other than the
first Trump administration that would have moved Europe to take
more responsibility for their own defense and take more of

(01:24:20):
the onus off us.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
For that defense.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
The world is getting smaller and people need to mind
their own business and take care of themselves. I'm sorry,
it's just it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:24:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
One of the things that the Ukrainian President Zelensky said
that really chaped my hide. He didn't want to sign
the minerals deal because he didn't want to sign a
deal that would make his grandchildren and their children have
to pay for something or not yet what they were.
And I'm thinking to myself, but you're asking us to
do that every day by continuing to spend money on
your war that we don't have. It's unpleasant, but it's

(01:24:57):
also necessary. And what is the old adage, happy is
on the other side of a difficult conversation.

Speaker 6 (01:25:03):
Anyway, We'll be back after this. Keep it on, Koa.

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
I've got to ask a question of my fellow costco
shoppers right now, so I don't know what is happening
to corporate America, But they are moving my cheese left
and right, and I do not like to have my
cheese moved.

Speaker 6 (01:25:20):
And I don't mean literally moving my cheese.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
And Costco there has not been a redecoration, but they
change the muffins, which I'm fine with, right, whatever, you
don't get that giant muffin.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
Do you ever get the Costco muffins?

Speaker 7 (01:25:31):
Ay? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:25:31):
Have you ever been a Costco muffin guy? I mean
when we're healthy, but yes, so you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
Know they used to be dragenormous and you were able
to get two packs of six mix and match for
nine to ninety nine, right that was it is?

Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:25:45):
Well, no, now they come in packs of eight for
six ninety nine small you can just buy one.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
Pack of eight. But in my Costco. You know what's missing?

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
The chocolate muffins, the big chocolate one, the big ones.
The big muffins are gone forever. They're just they're they
even have chocolate muffins, the.

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
All chocolate one.

Speaker 6 (01:26:03):
Yeah, they don't have.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
They haven't had it in my story, which is why
I'm asking if you're a Costco shopper whose shops elsewhere
outside of Douglas County, I need to know if you
guys have chocolate muffins, because if not, I'm gonna have
to write a stern letter to Costco if they.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
All figure this out, only not in yours. Will you
go to another one for them?

Speaker 5 (01:26:21):
If I need chocolate muffins? Yes, generally speaking, I don't
eat muffins just because I called. I worked at well,
I worked at a restaurant many many years ago, the
Mill Bakery, eatery, and brewery. This was in the early nineties,
so they were like an og craft brewery before it
was like even cool. But we also had a great
bakery and I would walk in at like four o'clock
in the morning to open the bakery, and I'd walk

(01:26:43):
by as the bakers were pulling these giant muffins out
of the oven, and I would just walk by and
scrape the top off of a muffin because that's the
best part, right.

Speaker 6 (01:26:51):
I would just scrape the top off and I would
eat that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:53):
And then the owner of the company decided to do
a nutritional analysis on the muffins.

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
That was a bad choice.

Speaker 5 (01:27:02):
And I don't think I've eaten a whole muffins since then,
even the small I just don't. They had one of
those chocolate chip muffins, and they were similar to the
Costco muffins, about the same size, seven hundred and twenty
five calories. Yees, seven hundred and twenty five forty carbs.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Oh more than that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
More than that, I mean, my gosh, probably like sixty
seventy somewhere in that range. Oh no, this texter said
they're gone completely. I asked a friend that works as
a buyer for them, why why, why this is like
Southwest doing away with the free bags.

Speaker 6 (01:27:35):
What are we doing, Costco?

Speaker 5 (01:27:37):
What are we doing all of my beloved corporations? And yes,
I'm a freak that I have beloved corporations, and I
don't care that Costco is run by left wingers. I
don't care. Give me a good deal in delicious muffins
and we are fine.

Speaker 6 (01:27:52):
Costco.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
No chocolate muffins in Fortin'. The smaller muffins are crap,
change the formula. As a matter of fact, we had
the smaller uffins. Well, Chuck had a smaller muffin last
night for the first time, and he declared it crap
as well. So disappointing. What Why do you break something
that ain't broken? Why do you fix something that ain't broken.

Speaker 9 (01:28:11):
Why bring back the muffins and bring back the McDonald
snack rap ooh snack raps.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
Haven't even thought about those for a long time. They
were kind of delicious.

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
Yeah, Mandy, you need to go to Sprouts for their
chocolate chocolate giant muffins. No, no, no, you're you're you're
miss you're you're miss uh misinterpreting me. I don't need
a giant muffin. But if they're gonna make smaller muffins,
why can't they make a chocolate chocolate chip smaller muffin.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
You know, for a long time people miss the supercize.
You'll be all right.

Speaker 5 (01:28:41):
I've never been a supersizor. I don't like I'm I'm
one of those people that orders a small beverage.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
I'm not talking about the drinks. I'm talking about the fries.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
Oh the fries. Yeah, oh yeah, God, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
Costco rearranges all the time to make you go through
every aisle ten math call, just rearrange the supplement aisle.

Speaker 6 (01:29:02):
They'll arrange the aisles or maybe move a few things.

Speaker 5 (01:29:04):
But generally speaking, they don't do a full quote remodel
where they change the shelving direction and.

Speaker 6 (01:29:09):
All that crap.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
Mandy went to the Costco and Parker off E four
seventy two weeks ago, and they had him.

Speaker 6 (01:29:15):
I got some blueberry. They were right next to the blueberry.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
They did not have them at that Costco anyway, Mandy,
I'm still mad that Trader Joe's discontinued the sun dried
tomato tortillas. Do you know I've never I don't think
I've ever shopped at Trader Joe's ever. I've been in
there a few times just to like, you know, go
see what was up. But every time I go, there's
a huge line, and all their food is kind of
convenience food for people that don't know how to cook

(01:29:41):
or that don't want to cook, which I'm not knocking
that some people don't love to cook. And it's okay
to reach his own, right, Mandy. The same thing happened
in Aunt Annie's pretzel. They have a klipino pretzel that
was fantastic and the company took it away.

Speaker 6 (01:29:55):
Sad, sad, sad.

Speaker 5 (01:29:58):
The McDonald's salad were the best. I don't think I
ever had a salad shaker.

Speaker 9 (01:30:02):
I just just found out about that. Actually, a video
I will give you for the blog tomorrow. This one
guy posted three days ago. He and a buddy ate
one hundred years worth of McDonald's. They went through the
decades and had people recreate all the menu items dating
back to I think like the fifties is awesome, even
maybe further back, and that and that salad shaker thing

(01:30:23):
was revolutionary. In my mind, it looked cool and they
should bring that back as well.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
I actually was one of those people that went to
McDonald's and got their salads that they had.

Speaker 6 (01:30:32):
They were good, not as good as Wendy's.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
The snack, oh god, those snack were good and they
were a really high caloriy to this texture said, still
sad about Del Taco. Stay tuned on Del Taco because
Del Taco Corporate shut down the stores because of issues
with the franchisee.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
But they are looking for people to reopen.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
Those Del Tacos or perhaps they reopened them as corporate stores.
So Del Taco may not be done done in college,
it is just temporarily done.

Speaker 7 (01:31:02):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:31:02):
It might be done done if they decide they don't
want to reopen the stores. But yes, I'm the Dell
Taco one got me because I like being able to
have a taco and fries.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
I'm not you know what, It's a genius move. I
don't know why more people don't offer tacos and fries.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
He you hear that taco bell?

Speaker 7 (01:31:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:31:23):
Bitter about the no all day egg mcmuffins. Still like
they trained us so quickly. They just expect breakfast whenever
we wanted it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Folded egg, baby, Yeah, No, I'm a round egg person.

Speaker 6 (01:31:35):
I get round egg on everything.

Speaker 9 (01:31:37):
No, und I don't care if it's made earlier and
not fresh round egg.

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
I get a round egg on the biscuits that normally
have the folded egg.

Speaker 7 (01:31:48):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
Exter said, sorry, I won't shop at Costco. Great, there'll
be one less car in the parking lot when I go.
Then to each his own people, to each his own.
Hey a Rod, you're gonna be shocked to find out.
I have a story, and I hate that this is
a slide show, and I apologize. But as soon as
I saw the headline the worst behaved dog breed according

(01:32:10):
to data plus see if your dog is one of
the least obedient breeds. So of course I had to
click through all seventy two panels to find out exactly
where my dog was on this list, and you'll be
not shocked to know at all that my Saint Bernard,
who is the biggest snugglebear in the entire world, who

(01:32:32):
when we're in our house knows all of her commands,
but when we are outside my house, has never heard
the word sit in her entire life. Is number fifteen
on the least obedient dog breeds seventy two.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
Oh it's not bad. Oh wait, fifteen most Oh yes, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:51):
Yes, Number one, by the way, is an Afghan hound.
They just look like they're not going to listen to you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
What's the most obedient?

Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
Uh, the most obediate the other end of this. Hang on,
I gotta go back down there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Slide scroll a little.

Speaker 6 (01:33:06):
I know, I'm scrolling right now as fast as I can.

Speaker 5 (01:33:08):
I'm like my clicker fingers getting a workout, like I'm
playing you know, Atari.

Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
Or something when I was a kid. Maybe. No, it's
one of the terriers, I think, yeah, and I don't
think it. Yeah, there we go. Oh it's so cute. Thanks,
little dog a wheaten terrier. Why can't I see what's happening?

Speaker 7 (01:33:27):
Is? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:33:28):
Really, she's mostly I think, so we haven't done the test.
We have it sitting in the laundry room.

Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
Yeah, the soft coded wheaten terrier's. Yeah, oh yeah, that's
understanding of new commands. Twenty five to forty repetitions, Sam,
the Saint Bernard was like fifty to seventy repetitions. Obey
first command fifty percent of the time or better. Saint
Bernard is thirty percent of the time or better. Yeah,

(01:33:53):
look at that. Yeah, Oh my gosh, Mandy, bring back
Taco John's Taco potato the ball. I have to second this,
except my sister worked at Taco John's when she was
in high school and that uniform, holy cow. First of all,
it was that like stiff, hard polyester and she would

(01:34:14):
take it off and it just stunk like taco uh,
Taco John's.

Speaker 6 (01:34:18):
It was just it was so good, so gross.

Speaker 12 (01:34:22):
No, it was not.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
No, what do you smell like tagos? It's a good smell.

Speaker 7 (01:34:28):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
I had to make So.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
My daughter is involved in the spring musical at her
high school. She is working on the tech team. So
they're in final rehearsals because it opens this week. So
every night parents volunteer to bring in food for the
kids because they're there till like ten o'clock at night
every night. So last night was breakfast, and I volunteered
to bring bacon. I had to shower twice to get

(01:34:52):
the stench of bacon off of me because it just
my whole house now smells like bacon.

Speaker 6 (01:34:57):
And I signed up to make.

Speaker 5 (01:34:58):
Waffles as well, So I'm make a batch of batter
to make forty eight waffles. So imagine I have literally
a tub of waffle batter and guess what happens a
rod my waffle iron brakes. Yeah, yeah, so I did
with normal people there. I ran to Walmart, but a
really bad one. It made terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:35:16):
Waffles, but it was fine. Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:35:19):
Don't businesses make decisions on what to sell based on
sales data? So you may love chocolate muffins like me,
but they didn't sell well enough to keep.

Speaker 6 (01:35:27):
I just don't believe that. I just don't believe that, Mandy.
Where's a Basst hound? I did not see basset hounds,
but I'm not saying they're not on there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Yeah, see if I can see of them. Yeah, not
the most obedient in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:35:41):
Chuck at Basst hounds as well. He had giant bassin
hounds as they say.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
One was great, one was not so much obedient.

Speaker 5 (01:35:49):
No, well, it's like the frustrating thing about my dog
is she completely understands what I'm saying when we're in
the house and I've got her attention, and I could
make her go through all of her commands and she'll
do them all right there, I mean perfectly.

Speaker 6 (01:36:01):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (01:36:02):
I walk out the door and she's like, I don't
know who you are, lady, but stop talking to me.

Speaker 9 (01:36:06):
I wish I say different, but on the outside a
little bit of the same problem.

Speaker 4 (01:36:12):
Yeah, backyard too, Mandy.

Speaker 5 (01:36:15):
It always annoys me that folks consider the bidable characteristic
to be synonymous with canines being intelligent.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
I don't think they were.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
They were conflating it with intelligence. They were conflating it
with the least obedient breeds. Oh no, my dog is
extremely intelligent. You know what I've taught her how to do.
Now I ride is when I drop something on the
kitchen floor ieel housekeeping, and she comes running in to
eat it for me, whatever's on the floor. And now
I come up every morning before I leave for work,

(01:36:43):
I go ahead and I prep my vegetables to make
my lunch. And I usually have like broccoli or qulifower
or something like that. As soon as I open the refrigerator,
she is right there waiting for her vegetables of the day.
She loves vegetables this which is fine. She doesn't love carrots,
she'll leave carrot half eaten on the floor. But broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus,

(01:37:03):
green beans, this dog loves them all. So she's smart.
She just chooses to ignore me when I am outside.

Speaker 6 (01:37:13):
You can see it. You can see it all happen
on her face.

Speaker 5 (01:37:15):
She just like, oh, your mouth is moving, but I
am busy doing whatever it is you're telling me not
to do. Mandy, we called potato Olays potato oilies. Well,
your Taco Johns wasn't as good as ours. They were
crunchy and delicious this text or maybe right, Mandy, we
have Taco John's up here in Forton. Meh, the only

(01:37:36):
good thing is the potato Olays. But yeah, they are
really really good. Great Pyrenees Is also are near where
the Saint Bernard is. So I want to get this
in really quickly because I've we've been talking about how
expensive things are in Colorado, and I think a lot
of you are kind of looking like, Okay, am I

(01:37:57):
going to be able to afford to retire? Here linked
to an article today, and it is so interesting. They
did an analysis about how long two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars in savings plus an average social Security check,
which right now in twenty twenty four is nineteen hundred
and seven dollars, how long could you live comfortably?

Speaker 7 (01:38:19):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
The good news is if you've got oh no Texter,
Mandy cook your bacon in the oven.

Speaker 6 (01:38:26):
I did cook it in the oven.

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
Or you know, do superior so much of it? Superior
turkey bacon, I too.

Speaker 6 (01:38:32):
Yeah, turkey bacon is like punishment.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
I mean it's not. It is better tasting and better
for you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:39):
I know that there are people out there like you
that prefer turkey bacon, but I prefer it naturally from
the pig, delicious, delicious pork. Anyway, in Colorado you can
live on two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year,
or excuse me, two hundred fifty thousand dollars in savings
and social security. You could live here for six point
four years, not very long. Where could you live longer? Well,

(01:39:04):
if you go to the story you can click through
all of the states and see what the big news is.

Speaker 6 (01:39:10):
Of course, when you go to places like Connecticut.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
Is that all Colorado or just like average or like
just debns average, just an average in Colorado, Well, you know,
our inflation is higher than every other state right now.

Speaker 6 (01:39:21):
Our inflation is higher than every other state, you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:39:25):
And that part of the equation is directly attributable to
the Democrats running the state of Colorado. But the problem
is is that people who live here don't realize that
everything isn't as expensive everywhere else as it is here.

Speaker 6 (01:39:41):
They genuinely think that you have to spend.

Speaker 5 (01:39:42):
One hundred dollars to go to a restaurant, and not
even a fancy restaurant. They genuinely think that eggs should
cost eleven dollars, because that's what the No, it's not
like that everywhere. Jack Russell terriers, by the way, very
smart and they listen, Mandy Turkey, bacon is the bomb.

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
No, thank you, no, it is way better.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
No, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
Uh Mandy, my dog is the opposite. Doesn't listen real
well at home? Does great out in the world. Well,
I would prefer that because trust me, out in the
world having a Saint Bernard that doesn't listen what a
recipe for.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Disaster that is.

Speaker 5 (01:40:21):
And I'm here to tell you by the way you
move to Hawaii that money only lasts three years.

Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
Ah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
West Virginia is becoming the second best state to retire.

Speaker 6 (01:40:31):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
That is where your money goes the furthest and contrary
to popular opinion, there are parts of West Virginia that
are quite beautiful and that money would go nine point
four years in West Virginia. I will tell you though,
some of the stereotypes about people in West Virginia are
stereotypes for a reason.

Speaker 6 (01:40:51):
Okay, not all of them, but definitely some of them.

Speaker 5 (01:40:57):
There's some weird rangers in West Virginia. A Rod is awesome,
but wrong on so many food things. At least he
complimented you before insulting you. You Yeah, I mean he's
trying to soften the blow.

Speaker 7 (01:41:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:41:09):
Couldn't be about turkey bacon though, I definitely am not
wrong there. But whatever else you're talking about. Textra sure, a.

Speaker 5 (01:41:14):
Texter said, what are they estimating for monthly expenses? I
don't know, but you can find that story along with
a lot of others on the blog at mandy'sblog dot com,
along with oh geezu. Who's playing of the day today,
Ryan Edward is he isn't here yet because we're all right,
because now it's time for the most exciting segment on

(01:41:35):
the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Of its guy the World.

Speaker 6 (01:41:40):
Of the day.

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
All right, we are, we are ready to go because
it is time for our dad joke of the day.

Speaker 9 (01:41:48):
Please, interviewer at a restaurant, why should we hire you
as a waiter?

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
Me?

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
Well, for starters, I bring a lot to the table,
So I like that. That's good.

Speaker 6 (01:42:00):
Oh that's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
That's something I would say in an interview and then
wait for the laugh, and then when no one laughs,
I would just sit awkwardly for a minute, you know,
like a scene in the office.

Speaker 6 (01:42:13):
Exactly. Okay, what is our what is our word of
the day?

Speaker 4 (01:42:17):
For adjective be A tific b E A T I F.

Speaker 5 (01:42:22):
I c to do with looking angelic, or I have
something to do with saints, or it's a religious thing.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
It's not necessarily religious. No, not really, Ryan, I'd say
I was just saying something landscaping.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
I have no idea.

Speaker 9 (01:42:42):
Be it tific is a formal word that describes something
or someone having a blissful appearance or showing complete happiness.

Speaker 4 (01:42:50):
I think she was pretty close.

Speaker 6 (01:42:51):
Yeah, I'll give myself partial credit.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
I won't.

Speaker 6 (01:42:53):
I won't take all the point, it just partial. Yeah,
i'll take it. I'll take the point to seven points.
It's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:42:58):
Today's trivia question, what classic book begins with the following line?

Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
Ships at a distance? Have every man's wish on board?

Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
No book?

Speaker 5 (01:43:10):
No, Moby Dick has called me ishmael. Yes, that's another
sailing book.

Speaker 7 (01:43:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
Castaways.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Oh gosh, their eyes were watching God by Zora Neil Hurston.

Speaker 7 (01:43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:43:24):
I should know that too, been to her museum and
stuff in Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:43:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
What is our category? And I'm not waiting till the end?
Ryan has an advantage today.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
It is a drop, which means drop is in every answer. Okay,
on these Ryan, what does the cough drop?

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
Correct?

Speaker 9 (01:43:43):
This on stage action has become a metaphor for a
stylish ending. I'm gonna throw hints in there because it's
who's gonna say, Brian Cranston meme yes correct. In two
thousand and six, Doug Flutie made one of these for
an extra point.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
The first in that head it's a drop kick.

Speaker 9 (01:44:02):
Three verb advice for what to do if you're clothing catches.

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
What is stop drop and roll?

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Correct?

Speaker 9 (01:44:09):
And finally when you read in an old book about
a death from.

Speaker 4 (01:44:13):
This, it means what we now call edemma edema edema that. Yeah,
never heard this.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
I have.

Speaker 12 (01:44:24):
I don't know what is drop C drop c of
course drops, well the acutely one I should have had.

Speaker 4 (01:44:33):
I was like a drop drop drop drop drop drop.

Speaker 5 (01:44:35):
Then I yeah, I was actually I was waiting for
a stop drop and roll. I figured that had to
be there. That went in my mind immediately, So I
was just waiting for that to appear. What is going
to appear today? On ka WA Sports, Ryan Edwards.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
Ie worked there.

Speaker 12 (01:44:49):
We have the Shelby Harrison Studio very excited as always
to have him here. We're gonna get to all sorts
of really fun topics. We're gonna ask about his Wisconsin Badgers.
Unfortunately not continuing on the nuggets of course. Last night
losing to Chicago, and we had a smattering of great
NFL topics stuff on the NFL draft coming up, what
the Broncos might do with twenty, all that coming up,
on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:45:10):
All right, all of that is coming up next tomorrow.
We have another big show planned for you. I'm pretty sure.
Let me pull up my calendar and double check. Oh,
we've got weather Wednesday. We've got Alexander Salter talking about
whether or not we are using the law to advance

(01:45:30):
climate agendas. It's gonna be much more interesting than that
actually just sounded. And then of course we've got so
much more, So keep it right here. We've got Kaoe
Sports coming up next. We will be back tomorrow. Keep
it right here on KOA