Good Humans. Better Leaders.

Good Humans. Better Leaders.

Welcome to Good Humans. Better Leaders., a podcast that takes a holistic look at human nature and leadership capabilities. I’m Michal, your host — a passionate advocate for authentic, values-driven leadership. I believe that good leadership starts with being a good human. This podcast is about personal growth, real conversations, and the messy, rewarding journey of becoming a better leader — from the inside out. In each episode, we explore ideas that help us grow as people and evolve into impactful, human-first leaders. You’ll hear inspiring conversations with experienced and respected leaders who share stories, insights, and reflections from their own paths. Whether you’re leading a team, aspiring to step into leadership, or simply interested in how people grow — this space is for you. Let’s learn and grow together. ----- Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michal-pawlowicz-nz

Episodes

August 17, 2025 45 mins

🎙️ Episode 9 – Leading with Empathy and Energy (with Ali Appelman)

In this episode, I’m joined by Ali Appelman, Hotel Manager at Sudima Queenstown Five Mile—an empathetic leader, “active relaxer,” and self-described adventurer who brings both warmth and drive to her role.

We talk about why empathy sits at the heart of her leadership style, how it shapes both the guest and team experience, and why kindness is not a weakness but a s...

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🎙️Episode 8 – Reflections on My Coaching Journey

This episode is a bit different from the previous ones—there’s no guest this time, just me and some reflections from my recent coaching certification journey. 

I share how coaching has already shifted the way I show up—in conversations with others, and in how I reflect on things myself. It’s changed how I listen, the kinds of questions I ask, and how I support others without jumping...

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🎙️ Episode 7: Keeping The Space for Magic (with Dr. Deepika Jindal)

In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Deepika Jindal, Professional Teaching Fellow and Programme Director for the Master of Business Management at the University of Auckland Business School, and President of the HRNZ Academic Branch.

We talk about leadership not as a fixed identity, but as a journey of exploration—something shaped by reflection, values, and how we ch...

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🎙️ Episode 6: When Ego Gets in the Way (and What to Do About It)

In this episode, I’m joined once again by Les Morgan, Chief Operating Officer at Hind Management / Sudima Hotels, for a thoughtful conversation about a topic that quietly influences so much of how we lead: ego.

We explore how ego shows up in leadership—sometimes as overconfidence, sometimes as defensiveness—and what to do when it starts getting in the way. Les reflec...

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🎙️ Episode 5: Leading with Heart – A Conversation with Sudesh Jhunjhnuwala

In this episode, I’m joined by Sudesh Jhunjhnuwala, CEO and Owner of Sudima Hotels and Hind Management—and someone whose leadership is a true reflection of what it means to be a good human first.

We talk about the values that have shaped him, from lessons learned growing up in a humble household to the principles he still holds onto today. Sudesh shares sto...

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Episode 4: Confidence Without the Overthinking: Just Do It Anyway! (feat. Xanthe Smythe) In this episode, I’m joined by Xanthe Smythe, Sales Manager for Conferences and Business Groups at Hind Management / Sudima Hotels, to talk about a leadership trait that gets a lot of attention—but often for the wrong reasons: confidence.

We unpack what confidence really is (and what it isn’t), how to build it, and how to walk the line between...

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Episode 3: From Connection to Impact: Rethinking Influence (feat. Les Morgan) In this episode, I’m joined once again by Les Morgan, Chief Operating Officer at Hind Management / Sudima Hotels, for an unscripted and thoughtful conversation about one of the most essential—and often misunderstood—leadership skills: influence.

We explore what it really means to influence others respectfully, how to steer conversations with care, and wh...

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Episode 2: The Art of Decision-Making (feat. Les Morgan)

In Episode 1, we explored the traits that make good humans and better leaders. In this episode, we dive deeper into one of the most critical — and challenging — leadership skills: effective decision-making.

I’m joined once again by Les Morgan, Chief Operating Officer at Hind Management / Sudima Hotels, as we unpack how great leaders approach decisions in a fast-changing world...

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Episode 1: It Starts with Being a Good Human (feat. Les Morgan)

Welcome to the very first episode of Good Humans. Better Leaders.

In this episode, we challenge traditional leadership models and explore what it truly means to lead with humanity. Leadership isn’t just about having a title or authority — it’s about how you show up, how you treat people, and the impact you make through your actions.

Joining me is Les Morgan, Chief Oper...

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