Unbehaved

Unbehaved

Like if your funniest friend, your therapist, and a researcher who's interviewed more than 1,000 leaders about making business better for all walked into a bar…and started a podcast. Unbehaved is where overachievers go to feel less alone. Real conversations with trailblazing leaders who decided to call bullshit on everything we've been taught about work, success, and life — revealing what it looks like to flourish, not just function. Hosted by Meghan French Dunbar, recovering CEO, best-selling author of "This Isn't Working," and business anthropologist who refuses to let you settle for fine, Unbehaved throws the old playbook out the window and helps you write a new one in its place. Sometimes that means a conversation with a pioneering leader who refused to follow the status quo. Sometimes it's Meghan going deep on the research, stories, and ideas the old playbook doesn't want you to hear. No matter what, this show will make you think differently about work, feel seen, and give you the permission slip to stop following rules that were never built for you. Because behaving according to business-as-usual clearly isn't working. It's now time to: Unlearn. Unhustle. Unsettle. Unmold. It's time to Unbehave.

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September 22, 2026 54 mins

Is there a voice in your head telling you that your story isn't interesting, that your idea isn't good enough, or that everyone else is somehow doing it better? Then this is the episode you've been waiting for.

You'll meet Francesca Donner, who spent two decades in the biggest newsrooms in the country — The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, editing the paper's pioneering In Her Words newsletter — watching women's...

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Every once in a while you meet someone who is so unapologetically themselves that just being near them gives you permission to be your full self as well. Kirsten Ludwig is that person.

Co-founder of the brand agency In Good Co, veteran of Ralph Lauren, American Eagle, Anthropologie, Fred Siegel, and Stella & Dot, and co-creator of the 17,000-subscriber Substack Good Thinking — Kirsten's career reads like a masterclass. Bu...

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There's a job you've thought about leaving. A sabbatical you'd take if you weren't worried about being judged for it. Something you want to write, or start, or say out loud — and the thing stopping you isn't whether you want to do it. It's what other people will think.

In this episode of Unbehaved, you’ll hear from Al and Leanne Elliott — the married couple behind the UK's #1 management podcast, Truth, Lies and Wo...

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Deb Liu — former CEO of Ancestry, creator of Facebook Marketplace, and a household name in the tech industry — spent decades being underestimated in every room she walked into.

In this episode of Unbehaved, she shares exactly how she unlearned the "play small, stay safe" survival strategy that shaped her early career, and the deliberate practices she used to become a leader who now owns the room.

If you've ever been ta...

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A few weeks ago, I laid down on a futon in Denver, drank orange juice with three grams of psilocybin in it, and spent eight hours next to a licensed therapist named Mikki Vogt. I recently told you what happened for me during that session. This week, you get to meet the woman who held the container.

Mikki Vogt is a licensed counselor, co-founder of one of Colorado's first licensed psilocybin healing centers, and one of the people wh...

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A few months ago, I laid down on a futon in Denver, drank a glass of orange juice with three grams of psilocybin in it, and spent the entire day tripping balls next to a licensed therapist who took notes for eight hours.

I did it legally. In Colorado. With medical supervision. And it did more for my mental health in one day than six years of therapy, antidepressants, ADHD medication, and every self-help book I've ever read had done...

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Most people think the cure for "not feeling enough" is to achieve more. To work harder, climb higher, and one day arrive at the version of success that finally proves you belong.

Shirin Eskandani spent her whole life chasing that version. She trained at one of the most competitive music programs in North America. She built the career most opera singers spend their entire lives hoping for. And then she got the call she'd been dreami...

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We spend more time at work than we do with our families. So why do we tolerate things from our employers — broken trust, withholding information, being told everything's fine when it clearly isn't — that we'd never tolerate from a partner?

In this episode of Unbehaved, we sit down with bestselling author Minda Harts, bestselling author ofTalk to Me Nice and The Memo, to ask why workplace trust is so often broken, why we...

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Have you ever known something was wrong — in your body, your gut, your bones — and had someone else tell you that it's just fine?

Lindsay Scola was 16 when the exhaustion started. She told her doctor she was tired. Her doctor told her busy people are tired — and that felt, somehow, like an initiation into adulthood rather than a dismi...

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Deepa Purushothaman was a partner at Deloitte for 21 years. At year 17, she started getting sick — headaches, stomach pains, skin rashes. Small things at first. And then over the course of two years, it grew until she couldn't feel from her knees down or her elbows down. She spent eight months in bed. She saw 14 doctors. And doctor number 14 said...

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If you've ever quietly asked yourself have I done enough? — this one's for you.

Stacey Lindsay is an award-winning journalist and the author of Being 40: The Decade of Letting Go and Embracing Who We Are, and in this conversation she does something I've rarely seen done so precisely: she names the thing. The invisible measuring stick. The "shoulds" that become brick walls. The manufactured timeline that has wom...

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You've done everything right. You work harder than most people around you, you deliver, and you're still exhausted — and somewhere underneath it, you've quietly decided that means something is wrong with you.

Amina AlTai said something early in this conversation that I had to stop and sit with: there is no outworking a broken system.

Amina is the best-selling author of The Ambition Trap,...

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If you’re constantly overextended, feel guilty when you rest, or exhausted by the pace of life — this is for you — the one to send anyone who looks fine on the outside but is frantically pedaling underneath.

Unbehaved* host Meghan French Dunbar opens with the story of Michelle — a woman who walked into a leadership workshop already having done a run, sent a stack of emails, coached her kid's baseball team, a...

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Have you ever ignored a gut feeling and then wished you hadn't? Nearly every extraordinary woman leader Meghan French Dunbar has interviewed cites intuition as central to their success — yet most of us have been trained to override it.

Intuition has been dismissed as a "soft skill" for so long that we've forgotten it's actually one of the sharpest tools any leader has. In this episode, host Meghan French Dunbar makes the case...

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The Harris Poll recently found that 70% of people say the traditional leadership style has contributed to the societal problems we're currently facing. Unbehaved* host Meghan French Dunbar unpacks why — and what actually works instead.

She opens with the story of a boss she once worked for who was such a Tyrannosaurus Rex that her survival strategy became "do not make sudden movements, do not make eye contact, maybe he won't ...

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Are you stuck in a “should” career — one that looks good on paper but leaves you unfulfilled? Or maybe you’ve even settled for work that makes you miserable but feel like it’s too late to change?   

Then this episode is for you — or to send to anyone who's ever said "it's too late to change what I do."

Meghan French Dunbar opens with the story of Allison Bailey Vercruysse who made it to...

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Ever feel like you have to change yourself to succeed at work? Then this episode's for you.

And it's a "do as I say, not as I do" episode of Unbehaved*, because host Meghan French Dunbar opens by confessing that she just spent six months trying to jam her personal website into someone else's mold and got exactly nowhere. Then she uses that miss to unpack why so many of us — especially women — struggle to lead from who ...

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Has perfectionism ever kept you from applying for the job, launching the thing, saying the thought out loud, or making the leap you know you want to make? This episode is going to change how you think about failure.

Unbehaved* host Meghan French Dunbar opens with the story of her failed Kickstarter campaign to launch Conscious Company Magazine — how she watched a public countdown clock tick to zero on a very public failure, c...

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If you can barely remember the last time you felt genuine, unqualified joy — and can't sit through five minutes of a peaceful moment without your nervous system screaming "you should be doing something productive" — this episode is the reset button.

It opens with a moment that had host Meghan French Dunbar questioning everything: one of her close friends, Cari, at dinner one night, quietly telling her "I feel like it's ...

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If you've ever hit the big goal, celebrated for a week, and then quietly wondered "is this it?" — fair warning, this episode is going to feel personal.

Unbehaved* host Meghan French Dunbar opens with a scene from 1992 Bergen Elementary: an 8-year-old version of herself in metaphorical war paint dominating field day, then heading home to add her blue ribbons to a Scrooge McDuck-style pile under her bed.

That childhood conditi...

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