February 28, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin talks about Luka Doncic’s defensive problems & his conditioning issues, Dolphins OT Teron Armstead joins the show, and more!
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Wherever you may be and however you may be listening,
Thanks for making us part of your day. So Jmack,
I want to talk about something. So there's a story
because the reason the Dallas Mavericks moved off Luca they
thought he was lazy, he played no defense, he wasn't
in shape, and he kept having a reoccurring cap injury,
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which they connected to his lack of conditioning. Also, beer
drinker European liked SIGs. Doesn't work hard in the off seats. Hookah. Whatever.
The point being is what I'm about to say, I
believe is that moving to La he'll get in better shape.
Now I'll get into that in a second. But there's
a story this morning that Luca Dallas called the Tea
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Wolves and said we'll trade you. You give us Aunt,
We'll give you Luca, and the Tea Wolves said no, thanks. Now,
I would not trade Luca for Aunt. I think Aunt
is younger, He's in much better shape. He's a much
better athlete. He's a much better defender. I've said this before,
and I'm on record saying this. I think Luca is
a better Carmelo Anthony. I don't necessarily think he always
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makes teammates better. I never think he's in great shape,
and he's a below average defender. He's an all time
gifted offensive player. But I wouldn't trade. If I was Minnesota,
I wouldn't give up Aunt. Ant's younger, better shape, better defender.
I think he's not as naturally effortlessly. I mean the
way Ant shooting threes this year, It's like, damn, he's
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not that far behind Lucas shooting threes. But it's funny
when I watched Luke play. All the criticisms that the
MAVs had about Luca, Let's be honest, they're on display.
He's a terrible defender. He doesn't have the energy of
forty year old Lebron. He's not close to forty year
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old Lebron as a defender. Now, I would have I'm
the Lakers. I still would have moved Ad out. But
if Ad was healthy with Kyrie Irving, there's an argument
that is a great fit because Kyrie and Luca did
not defend. Ad is a remarkable defender. So in a way,
Dallas is getting beat up because AD's not healthy and
Lively is not available. Dallas a really good basketball team
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and a much better defensive team. Now that Lucas gone,
the Lakers now are a much better offensive team, and
I think Luca's great. I thought we were talking about this.
I have because you know, I've chased commerce. I've lived
in Connecticut. I spent a lot of time in Rhode Island.
I spent a lot of time in Chicago. I lived
in Vegas, Los Angeles, Tampa, Los Angeles. A fifty year
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old man in Los Angeles is in better shape and
looks better than a fifty year old man in Chicago.
We got a beach, and we got mountains, and the
weather's always good, and people hike and go to the
beach in January, like that's just what they do in
most American cities. Even in Phoenix in the summer it's
too hot to go outside. You can go outside every
day of the year in Los Angeles. You can golf
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almost every day of the year. You can hike every
day of the year. You can go to the beach
all but about thirty days of the year, and so
and there's just there's a weird thing about Los Angeles.
It's a very competitive place in terms of being in shape.
Like the women compete against the women, the men compete
against the men. It's a real thing. Anthony Davis was
never in better shape than when he came to Los Angeles.
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After about three years he got into the lifestyle. Eight
he was in great shape. He was not when he
came here. He was always hurt. They used to make
fun of the dad. Bod was in New Orleans. He
was in the South. It just the food's different, and
you know in the summer you're not going to go
outside much. So this is about Luca. As I look
at Luca and I watch him, you know, Dallas had
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their concerns, but the Minnesota Timberwolves are like, we're not
trading Aunt for Luca. Like the criticisms of Luca are
on display. He cannot defend he is not in good shape. Now,
I think you'll get there. I understand his inactivity is
a big part of this, but I mean the players
that Luca guarded last night shot fifty five percent. Terren Shannon,
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a junior, was three or four when guarded by Luca
and went for a career high twenty five. So there's
a little Carmelo Anthony here where you're getting an all
time naturally gifted player. But you know, the cardio and
the defensive concerns, they're on display. Even if he got
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significantly better, he's not great at either. Let's just be
honest about it. Okay. So Steph Curry last night, he
hadn't done this in a long time, but it was
it wasn't all. Here is his twelfth three last night
from NBC Sports Bay Area. To delay lost the handle,
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Curry to beat the buzzer for three. Good Steph's got
twelve please, And Steph Curry is one of those athletes.
And I think you see it sometimes in baseball if
somebody throws a no hitter, like I think if you're
on the road and you throw a no hitter, like
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the opposing crowd, you know, gives you a standing o.
It's like you did a great job. We can acknowledge it.
Maybe not if it's a playoff game, but in most instances,
everybody acknowledges. You may not have loved Tiger, but if
Tiger hits the clincher at the Masters, you're sitting there
live in the gallery watching a historic moment. Like last night.
Steph pointed this out after the game. The Orlando fans
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were enjoying the hell out of this performance.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
This I got to always say, played this game, enjoy
the competition, the creativity, and it's grown over the ears
where you can drive off of a road crowd, which
is pretty as saying with every gray hair that pops
up on the top of your head, you can get
to appreciate moments and milestones like this, so very very special.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, Lebron and Curry incredible nights. So I want to
go back to the Luca thing. And I would have
made the deal too if I was the Lakers, absolutely
would have made the deal. I think they stole him.
But would you acknowledge j Mack? Would you acknowledge because
there's two players in the NBA that you loved because
you're a bit of a gunner who doesn't defend, But
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there's two players in the NBA that you loved and
I thought were great. But I never thought Tatum was
a top three player when Marcus Smart was taking the
ball from him and they had to get market Smart
out of town. You don't have to trade people because
they're taking it away from Kobe or MJ. So I
like Tatum a lot. I think he's a top ten player.
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I was never as hot. My take on Luca was
he's a much better Carmelo. But when you watch him
and you watch Lebron's energy, can you acknowledge now that
he should should even with his inactivity, he should be
better than he is right now?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
All right, it's Friday, right. I know you have a
big weekend plan.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I don't want to send you off to the weekend
in a bad mood.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But this Luca is Carmelo Anthony nonsense. It's got to stop.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Luca's like top ten in the league and assists every year.
Carmelo Anthony was allergic to passing. Literally, he would like
break out and hides if he had to pass the basketball.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's why he didn't like Jeremy Lynn.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I don't want pass this guy, get him out of town.
Luca makes everyone on his team better. He carried the
MAVs to the finals last year. Carmelo No couldn't carry
a team anywhere. No, I said Syracuse, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But defense and being in elite shape both are very similar,
and they're both farallon naturally gifted. At nineteen years old,
Mellow at Syracuse and Luke in the NBA were ten
years ahead of players. I mean they were literally you know.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Who else is Donna s Patrick Mahomes and his dad Bob.
Dwight Howard at the height of his powers in the
NBA was eating crap candy like you and I eat,
Remember you would eat.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Skittles and all that crap.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Like, just don't you're going overboard on Luca Man, He's
he's going through a tough stretch with a new team,
a new city. You know, I know he's trucking real
estate agents looking at some real estate out here in
LA Like.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
By the beat.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
He's got a lot. Stop, he's got a lot going on. Colin,
Let's let's give him a break.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He's off the let's be injury. I think he's great,
and I said this the other day. I think his
ability to pass the ball up the floor, it's not
in the half court stuff. His ability to get the
rebound and get it up the floor, it's very yokick.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
She's got magic Johnson vision.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah. No, like he finds guys over the head, over
the I'm not denying that. I'm just saying Minnesota got
a call and they're like, no way, we're not giving
up ant. And I believe most NBA diehards think Luca
is better than and and Minnesota was like, no, thank you,
Luca better than I think Lucas.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Don't think there's any debate there.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Okay, the Edwards is awesome, but I love him one
of my top like seven.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, but Minnesota was like, no, because people tell you
who they are.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And Luke, you think Luca's gonna stay in Minnesota if
they traded in there?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, I don't fine not stay in there.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't even know if Anthony Edwards will stay there.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And hey, by the way, somebody just sent me something
on the Steph Curry flurry that you talked about earlier.
So last night, Charles Barkley, when they were showing the
Curry twelve threes, he goes, oh, this is a fluke.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
That's the kind of hate I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, and I'm made up. It's no AI fuks like, oh,
there's a fluke.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Curry has, according to the NBA account, the most games
with nine or more threes in NBA history by like
a mile.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He has like forty five.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, he's the greatest shooter in Leake history.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
He's calling it a fluke, Like, what are you doing, Charles, Well,
it's funny, that's stupid.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, I just I think he's I think he's poking
people in the ribs. I think, without question, there are
certain things that are true. Kareem had the most unstoppable
shot in league history. Steph Curry's the greatest shooter in
NBA history, And Michael Jordan is the most relentless offensive
player in league history. Yeah, Michael could have averaged forty
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five a game easily if he wanted to. He was
unstoppable offensive.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
He also never won anything without Scotti, Pippen and Phil Jackson.
Yeah whatever, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
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Speaker 1 (11:41):
Wake the neighbors. Tell your friends you want to watch
the next twenty minutes. Tarn Armstead twelve years in the NFL,
A five time pro bowler, started with a Saints, went
to the Dolphins. One of the great multi left tackles,
pass blocking, run blocking in the NFL for a long time.
Could play still available. We'll get into that in a second.
This guy's full of personality that you know that what's
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always interesting. I'm fascinated by this. How in the hell
did you end up being overlooked by SEC teams? It
didn't take you very long to be good in the NFL.
You went to Arkansas Pine Bluff. I know where Arkansas is.
I don't know where the pine or the bluff is at.
Why were you a late bloomer?
Speaker 8 (12:21):
I think my area was just overlooked.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
My high school was behind the times as far as exposure, okay,
putting the eyes on guys and getting the tape to
where it was available. You know, I was still VHS,
very very a lot of static.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Look Josh Allen, same thing. Oh really, yo, No, I
mean literally didn't get a single college offer. Oh wow,
played out in the sticks in Northern calling.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
For same situation.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Yeah, so if you were watching my film, you would
have to kind of figure out which of those dots
were me and we liked that guy and that it
didn't happen for me.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Did you know did you go to the Combine?
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I did?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, when did you know I'm better that guy? I'm
better than that guy?
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
When did you know I'm going to play in this league?
Speaker 9 (13:06):
I wouldn't say that combine was that situation for me.
Combin helped me get more odds and more exposure. I
had broke the forty yard dash record for the offensive
lineman ran four sixty five to two, so look at that. Yeah,
So that that just helped me get my name out
and got more people to watch my film. My college
film had some static too, but it was more DVD.
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It wasn't VHS, No Moore, so it's hard to see
that too. But Combin helped me tremendously. But as far
as like which guy that I felt like I could
play against for I'm better than never really been my thing.
I went to the East West Shrine game and then
got invited to the Senior Ball the next week. So
those two weeks were probably the most revealing for me
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as far as level of talent, because I kept hearing
that through the process, your a level of talent that
you played against is going to be different than the
SEC guys. So first, one on one, I'll tell you
a quick story. First one on one at the Senior Ball,
I got the late A lineup. It's a Dan from Georgia.
I don't remember his name, and I'm like, this is
my moment. I jumped at him, threw his ass five
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yards and jumped on him everything like I blacked out
And that was my right then, And there was my
moment of you can do this, you can play at
this level.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I love stories like that.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The you know, it's funny. We were talking during the break.
I love Sean Payton. Sean Payton facetiming last night in
Indy and you played for him for years and he
is very blunt. He and Russell Wilson. Russell's mister optimism,
Shawn's mister authentic honesty. Like it it clashed. Yeah, you
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didn't like Seawann early, I didn't.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
I didn't like him at all my first three four years.
But I appreciated him like I appreciated his coaching style.
He's very direct, he was very aggressive, but he wasn't
personable at all. Like I couldn't say nothing to him,
couldn't make it a suggestion or opinion or anything.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
The only time he talked to you was if you
messed up. That was it. Like he was not a
pat on the back guy at all.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
So as a young player coming from Arkansas pinm Bluff,
I was.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
Looking for a little you know what I mean, a
little something.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
But everything that he taught me in those first four years,
it stuck with me, and it taught me what's important
doing your job, execution, play after play, a game after game,
and I couldn't I.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Can't thank the man enough.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
And then later on my last five years together, we
became best friends and I love him to death that
the stories that he has and the moments that we've
shared together.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
He went the extra mile for me.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Twenty twenty, during COVID, my brother passed away and we
couldn't travel, so, you know, it was looking like I
wouldn't be able to go to the funeral, and I'm like,
I'm driving if that's the case. This middle of the
week and Sean called me to his office and he's like,
missus Benson, I told her the situation. We're taking her plane,
we're going to the funeral. I'm like, what do you
mean way, It's like, I'm coming with you. We're going
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to the And he came up to my hometown, me
and him, Dan Rochark, he just signed with the Bears
as the O line Coach album Kamara and Latavia's Murray,
and we all went to the funeral together and Sean
was amongst the people and he helped my family like
genuinely had had people laughing and smiling at really the
toughest time of our lives.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
So forever, forever grateful for that man.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
By the way, somebody said on the staff, they said, hey,
tarn is going to give you crap about Steph Curry
who dropped fifty six last night. What are you going
to say to me? I was very complimentary today have
Steph Curry?
Speaker 9 (16:42):
Yeah no, So now that you mentioned it, and it's
about eight years ago that you said this, eight years Yeah,
I've been holding on to it that I've been waiting
for you. Yeah, So eight years I honestly, don't even
remember what you said.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
I just know at the moment I didn't like it.
Didn't like it one bit.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
What I say it was, he is he can he
win a championship? Uh, you know by selling he does?
He need X, Y and Z to do it. It
was it was something crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Just it's just out razing and it just bothered you.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
It bothered me so bad.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But you know what It's funny about Steph Curry. He
goes to Davidson so none of us watch him small school.
You and him have something in common. He has ankle
issuers ankle issues. He's not very good defensively at all.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
My ankle, my ankle is pretty good. I heard everything else,
but the ankles were good.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But he was he had to develop into something.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And there was there were talk they were going to
keep Monte Ellis and and move him like there that
was Jerry west Is like, we're not doing that. I
think I think it was Jerry West or somebody in
the organization. And the truth is is that I do
think the jet fuel to players like you and Curry.
And I've said this about this year's quarterback draft. They're
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all getting crushed. This is them all.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And what makes Curry so great is that he just
he just always works at his craft. And I think
sometimes and I see this a little with Luca. Luca
was so good at sixteen, beating European men. He's still
not in good shape. Like what the harder things are
to attain, the more it fuels you for the rest
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of your life. Steph Curry will be competitive golfing at
seventy four because of Davidson and going to your life.
The fact you were doubted even today, does it take
you because you were I think you were great at
top four, third best, top three tackle last year? Does
it still drive you crazy? Do you feel disrespected by that?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
I do? I do? And that to your point, it
that's what drew me to Steph Curry. Like to be.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
To become a fan of Steph Curry is all the
noise and for him to use it as fuel and
to work to work, to work, to work to become
what he has become. I took the same approach. I
had to work over time to go from Arkansas Pine
Bluff and be a small school guy, underachiever, all of
those things whatever to be a five time pro bowler.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
All pro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
And it's still like you say, to this day, was
third rate tackle this year?
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Whatever? Who was grays or metrics.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
But I just always got to prove myself And I'm
okay with that because I love the grind, I love
the work, I love getting better, I love the progression.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
It's just a part of who I am.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So I've said this before. NFL's obviously rewarding financially offensive
players over defensive players. But I've said there's a handful
of defensive players in my life. Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor,
Aaron Donald, They're just different in facts. Miles Garrett is
pretty close to that, and my argument is if you
give him a winning environment, he'll play even better. Like
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Lebron looks better now that Luke's there, for sure. I mean,
Staff's playing better, Jimmy Butler's there. It's like they're showing
up and like everybody's watching my games. Now. How many
times have you faced Miles Garrett and physically he should
have more body fat at that size. Is he a
top matchup even for you?
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Yeah, I've played him three times. I would say I
think we played the first time in twenty eighteen. That
is a top three one on one old line.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Versuity line battle.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
I went and watched it again, probably two months ago.
It's a it's a it's a dogfight.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
I won. I did it. I just put that out.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
I won.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
But if you go back and watch that game, I
got no help. He got no help. He lined up here,
I line up here, and we went at it for
the entire game twenty eighteen.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Go watch that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
So the next day when you wake up, be honest
with me, is it hard to get out of bed
when you play somebody at that longp For sure?
Speaker 9 (20:46):
For sure that you get a physical dog fight like that,
somebody that's like really it's like a train wreck.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
For sures.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
You feel every part of it, your neck, back, shoulders,
for sure, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
By the way, Matt Stafford just reached an agreement with
the Rams. Oh wow, so got the Raiders came after him.
But it was interesting. According to Diana Russini, the Raiders
only offer two years, which is what the Rams are offering,
so the trade speculation talk is done. The first significant
offseason quarterback Domino has fallen the Rams and Stafford. According
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to Adam Schefter have reached an agreement on a restructured deal.
My guess is two years. I'm not sure about the money.
Stafford's pretty unique. You know what I always appreciate about Stafford.
A lot of these older quarterbacks don't want to get hit.
Matt will sit in there fearless to the last half second, fearless.
You've hit him a few times. I mean you've hit him.
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You've been in games against Stafford. Are there is there
a secret code the quarterbacks? Like Breeze was a smaller
quarterback as he got older, tell me what it's like
to protect like Tua. We got concussions. He don't want
to get You don't want to get hit. Do you
you feel a responsibility because of Tua's concussions? Does that
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add pressure to you?
Speaker 9 (22:06):
It's pressure playing that position anyway, being being the front line.
Like I had two smaller quarters, I've had two smaller
quarterbacks my career, Drew Brees and Ta Guy.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
By the way, Tua Breeze is to comp.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
For sure, for sure, and for a good reason too.
It's not it's not for nothing. He's he is that
from that claw. So the stressful part and it's real
life stress, Like, it's anxiety that goes on in past protection.
That's like the worst thing in the world is to
get your quarterback hit to me. So if I give
up a sack, like, no matter how I played for
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the rest of the game, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
My day is ruined. It's ruined. I get the quarterback hit.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Only gave up three last year.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
I don't think two of those are on me. So
we got to go back and watch the film. Yeah,
that's a lot of factors goes into that.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Is there a guy in the league that gave you
more trouble and he wasn't a high draft pick?
Speaker 8 (22:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You know, bo what said this? There are guys in
the NBA. They have maybe a weird body or whatever.
But if you ask players are like, I mean, I
remember Dominique Wilkins telling me, he goes, I love playing MJ.
I did not sleep playing Bernard King. Bernard could just
say I'm scoring fifty four tonight, he goes. I couldn't
stop him. He goes, I hated playing it. Is there
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a guy in the league that you're like because Max
Crosby talks a lot of trash he does, and he's
a fourth I think he's a fourth rounder. Is there
a guy in the league that you maybe don't sleep
quite as well the night before?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
No, I would say I feel the same way as
as Dominique, Like I would rather block Miles Garrett and
Max Crosby.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Wow, I would. I will.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
It's the guy that just got elevated off practice squad.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
I'm terrified of him. I'm scared to death. He is.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
He's in his stands, he got his his leg is shaken. Goddamn,
he's about to rush with everything in.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
His being intimidating. No, No, the scouts who you talkt who's.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
A tactic squad? Guy that's that just got elevated this week.
They told him on Winnsday, Hey, you're gonna play this week?
You might not get me a terrified I'm fearful. Yeah,
I don't want to see him. Give me Max, give
me Miles Garrett. Yeah, that practice squad I got it,
just called up. I don't want no smokers.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
That young man.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
He's got nothing but energy, nothing but energy.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
He's gonna run through my face masks over and over
and I throw him to the ground. But I'm like
supposed to. So it's like, you know what, I mean,
he gonna get up and do it again? Would I
don't want to see him.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You've made your money. You can retire today. But you
play outside of quarterback, the most important position in the sport.
If a good team called you up and said, dude,
two years would you would you go play?
Speaker 8 (24:43):
I'm on a good team, so no, so you wouldn't?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You were not gonna play.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
I'm on a good team already.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Why know?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
But I mean, so nobody else can call me you?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Would you? This is it?
Speaker 8 (24:55):
I'm a yeah, Dolphins only.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
But you're you're you're kind of pausing.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I'm not I think it's natural pauses in a conversation.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
That's funny. So what do you do now? You're how old?
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Are you? Thirty?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Okay? You got you got some money, You've had a career. Yeah,
what do you do? What is an Can most people retire?
I'm sixty and still working. The average person will be
great man sixty five, sixty six. You're thirty three and
can wrap it up? What do you do?
Speaker 8 (25:30):
I weigh my options?
Speaker 9 (25:31):
Right, I feel like being in the league for so long,
having a successful career and I've done well financially. It
gives me cushion in room to make a decision like
this and to see if I want to continue to
go out and compete in pursuit of a championship. That's
the goal, like that, honestly, honestly speaking, that is that's
the goal. So it's a lot of factors that goes
(25:54):
into that. A lot of health for sure. But then kids,
my kids getting older, my twin girls about to be
team they're just pray for me please, So those type
of things are factors for sure. The Dolphins have been
incredible and graceful allowing me this time. I know you've
seen the contract restructure that we we just came to.
It worked well for all parties. It allowed me a
little bit more time to think and allowed them to
(26:15):
do whatever they need to do necessary to improve it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
It made you an offer, the Dolphins.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Have you said structure money? Yeah, yeah, we restructure. Yeah.
You haven't signed it, not physically.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Are you going to? Yeah? Again, you're pausing.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You're pausing when I asked you are you going to
sign the contract?
Speaker 9 (26:38):
What the restructure is is like I took my projected
salary down to minimum. Okay, So it allows the Dolphins
to do with the new space cap space to.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Do whatever they need to do to improve the team.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
It allows me the time to make a decision whether
I want to keep planning or not. So if I decide, hey,
we're doing it, so I'm locking in, let's go, then
we have another conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, Matt Stafford broke news. You could do it right
after I could.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
I want to let Matt have his day? Would I
be to take his shine? And then they only talking
about me today? You know?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
All right? You know you've you've had Sean Payton's intensity
as a coach, Dan Campbell's almost he's a player, and
now you've got this wizard this like MI I t
Mike McDaniel. Be honest about Mike McDaniel. First time you
saw him, did you say he's gonna stand in front
(27:35):
of us he's a little bit different? Right?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
My first time I saw him was I was on
a visit, so it was it was one on one
and he just came in. He came in with energy. Man,
he was he was excited. He had just got there
three or four days before.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
So he didn't know where his pans and yeah, he is,
for sure, he's he's different. He's different, but that's okay
because he's It's genuinely him.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
And that's what I appreciate. Is not a front, is
not an act.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
It's him, and you spend time with him, you'll see
that and you have a deeper appreciation for him.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Tarron Armstead, you know you're always welcome.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You can always come by the show.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
You come to my show too. I don't have one yet,
but one day when I do. You let me tell
you that a free to come through. It's a dead
end career. There's no reason to do this.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You hang out with your beautiful twin daughters. Are they athletes?
Speaker 8 (28:28):
What are they? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Basketball players? Best sixth grade team in the country. Going
to a Nationals again? Yeah, back to back, we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
What do you weigh right now? By the way, that's personal.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
What do you weigh about two eighty five?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
What do you play at?
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Tone eight three hundred.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
That's a light tackle for you to be that good
at that.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Weight, appreciate it strong.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
What do you This is a weird question. If I
said Max Raps bench. What do you bench? This is
it's a weird question.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
Was huh, I'm not benching no more. You don't bench, no,
not Max rev No.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
No, you're just doing light stuff trying to keep tone.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Yeah, I get what I need to get in a
lot of pilates and stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Really about that course?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
How about that? Ye?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
When I grab him, it's no getting away.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Okay, Matt Stafford is signed with the Rams. We'll say
it again. Uh, congrass, Yeah, that's that's so. We said.
We thought the Raiders were in play, but in the
end the Rams wanted that first Raiders pick and probably
a second, and the Raiders said that's a little bit
too much. So Stafford whose legacy again, if you give
him a second super Bowl, that's l way, That's Peyton Manning,
(29:36):
that's big Ben. Don't forget how a quarterback's career ends
goes a long way in forming that legacy. Right now,
Stafford's considered great. He becomes an all time great with
a second Super Bowl, and the Rams are in that
short little window where they could do it great meeting.
You Heardline News next live in La it's the Herd.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
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Speaker 4 (30:02):
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Speaker 1 (30:22):
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Speaker 3 (30:22):
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Speaker 11 (30:24):
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Don't lie to me a cause I got a lot
of confidence. Are you confident? And I'm out a bitley right?
My Billy goes on plus on a dish with it.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
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Speaker 9 (30:48):
But yeah, you'll never drive his foss as made Brian.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I've been by the way Fox this year had the
Super Bowl, the fundred, the Daytona five hundred, and the
World Series, and I've if you've ever stood next to
an Indy car, you cannot believe how fast they are
and they're on the ground They're so low to the ground.
It is like nothing you've ever seen. It's an incredible
experience live nothing like it. All right, Okay, By the way,
(31:14):
Matt Staffords re signed with the Rams, I thought the
Raiders had a real shot. According to Schefter, the New
York Giants, now that they're out of the Matt Stafford race,
are considering other veteran quarterback options, including Aaron Rodgers. I
(31:34):
don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Aaron.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I think he bought a place over in Hoboken or
something on the hill overlooking the city. I think if
our memory serves me correctly, so the Rams listen, you
know what it tells me. It tells me, if possible,
the Rams will take a left tackle with their first pick.
They don't want to pay a left tackle, and Stafford
and Cooper Cup they've tried to move off Cooper Cup.
(31:59):
That put the name out out there, so that means
they're paying Stafford big boy money. I don't know what
the number is. My guess it's around fifty million for
two years. I'm guessing I have no idea that that
does tell me. In the draft they have to address
They got to go get a starting tackle because haven
Stein right tackle makes good money getting near the end
the left tackle. I think he's a free agent, yes, yeah,
(32:20):
so they want to restart the clock on left tackle
because they're paying Cop, they're paying Stafford, they're paying haven Stein,
they're paying their tight end, they're paying nobody on defense.
But I think this tells you they're going to go
if they can left tackle in the first round of
the draft. And at the end of the first round,
Josh Connor Lee from Oregon. There's a kid from Minnesota
we talked about yesterday. So there's a couple of good ots.
(32:42):
There's not a great left tackle in this draft, but
mid to late first round. That kid out of Oregon's
getting better every year. They got a shot. But that's
what that tells me that offensive tackle with match new
deal is going to become a priority.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
The problem now becomes what do you do if you're
the Giants and they had you know, they were all.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
In on Stafford.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
They tried, he stayed with the Rams. Now you got
Brian Dable fighting for his job in New York. Do
you make a play for Aaron Rodgers? Like, do you
have any come across town quarterback? Us I don't know
that they're good through offensive line is a dumpster fire
right now?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And what do the Raiders do?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Colin, like Pete Carroll knew on the job, You're not
getting Shador, He's not falling the six.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He's gonna go too. It's gonna be cam Ward and.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Shadoor at the top and a lot of teams. Now,
does Sam Darnold get paid by somebody?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Because no, no, this is this not many options. No, no,
this domino. This is not a bad day for Aaron
Rodgers and Sam Darnold, not bad at all. J Mack
with a news No, no, turn on the news. This
is the herd line news.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
A little war breaking news in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
If you remember, the Giants had a debacle letting Saquon
Walk in free agency to the Eagles and that was
all televised.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Well, now, the.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
NFL could not find a team to do hard knocks off.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Season, so they went to a guy with a lot
of NFL experience, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
So Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
The North Carolina tar Hills will be featured, wow on
Hard Knocks offseason.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
This is a genius move by Belichick.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's a massive recruiting tool right to have a college
football program on HBO televised.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
You know it's going to get a lot of media coverage.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I think this is smart by Belichick showing now that
there's a different side to Bill.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
He's not the old grumpy guy with the hoodie in
the holes. He's a new dude. I think this is
a home run for him.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You know, it's really interesting. Bill had a comment, it
was about two months ago, how he was. He talked
about ownership in the NFL and that if there are
too many owners now, too many billionaires, and you don't
really have control of the football operation, and the one
(34:50):
thing you do as a college coach, you have control
of the football operation. And I think it shows us
that Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells may have different people,
but the one thing, the line that neither one wants
to cross is Parcels left Dallas and New England when
(35:10):
he didn't feel he had control, right and that that
is I and I look at that right like, and
I think Belichick has shown you with his college thing,
letting HBO in tells you, I'm here for a couple
of years. I'm sure his girlfriend will be the star
of the show. But needless to say, I think it
(35:32):
does make me. It makes me harken back to that
three month ago comment, where as the league's owners have
gotten richer and more impulsive and more meddling, Bill just
doesn't feel like when he only got one team to
look at him, he may have just said the hell
with the NFL, Like I just don't want to be
there anymore. That's what it makes me feel, like doing
(35:52):
this show and like he's making he's in for this thing.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
So you think, like, just imagine this scenario. The ad
at North.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Carolina, whoever he is, is upset with Belichick over two
million dollars on some player. Can you imagine that conversation.
The Ady going to a Bill, Bill, we're over budget here.
Belichick's gonna look at it me be like, I may
tripping your salary. I don't want to hear it. HBO's
on campus, Be quiet, stay in your place.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm gonna run the football part.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Nobody's telling Belichick what to do in North Carolina, right,
nobody but Kraft. Remember he famously said you've got to
trade Garoppolo because Brady wants to be here for the
long hall, and Belichick was like upset with that power
and control is very important.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Bill Belichick has all of it right now, Colin.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Now, next up is Steph Curry's master class last night?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
What are performance?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Twelve threes on his way to fifty six points? Warriors
another win since acquiring Jimmy Butler. Steph's been huge, obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
But Jimmy Butler as well.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Listened to Jamal Mosley, the Orlando coach, talk about Steph Curry.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
The man had fifty six points. There is no aside
from Steph. He had fifty six.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
You gotta love that fifty six points, Colin, and they
were like, well, what else was going on?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Stiff Curry? Now most fifty point games after.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Turning thirty five or older. Now, Jalen Suggs did not play.
Who's a very good defender for Orlando. Yeah, he did
not play. That helps it was one of the and
Orlando's a good defensive team. But Suggs is a He
is a defensive ball where he's intense.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
You know, that's my guy. If Curry wants to go
for fifty, he's gonna get fitted. Okay, nobody gets stop.
Suggs is a great defender.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I guess the real question, Colin, do you think they're
back in the championship discussion. Are they on the fringe
like your Super Bowl bubble? Do you had an NBA
Finals bubble championship bubble?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Would the Warriors be in there or on the fridge?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Uh? If I had an NBA championship bubble. So my
NFL bubble is usually about seven teams, I would say Celtics, Calves,
ok Se, Lakers, Nuggets, Nuggets, Knicks. I don't. I don't
think the Knicks. I think the Knick in the West
(38:01):
would be even more exposed defensively. Bucks.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think the Warriors are one of those teams in
the Super Bowl bubble that I put just on the outside.
I don't know if offensively they can keep up with
the Lakers. Austin ruy Lebron. I mean the Lakers right
now played poorly on offense last night and still drop
what they dropped. I still I think Jimmy Butler helps,
(38:32):
but I think they can still be very steff dependent
on their best nights. But they're close.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Steph Curry tremendous night final story. Colin is last hour,
we talked about cam Ward. This hour, let's talk about
seeduor Sanders. He met with the media yesterday and said
he doesn't understand how people are evaluating.
Speaker 10 (38:54):
When people say, I'm not you know one of the
top quarterbacks. Are the top quarterback? Do y'all going based
off of because I did a year year after year
after year. Then you see the progressive So that obviously
you gotta be some type of external hate that you
have for the family for the last day for anything,
because I know I proved myself on the field.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, I think people like him. Actually, I think one
of the strains he has is people think he's a
good kid.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
They like him.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I think. Also, never forget when Andrew Locke. Remember a
week before the draft, everybody was like, I don't know
if Andrew Luck's got a good arm. We nitpicked these
guys to death. Like shadur is an NFL starting quarterback,
how great he is? I don't know you have had one.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
I would say one of your most famous takes on
the Herd has to do with backwards hats at podiums.
I know it's usually reserved for quarterbacks in a certain day.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Does that shadere video right there? Reply? Because that was
a backwards hat at the combine.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm not I'm not not really freaking me out yet
not let me look at the coming show it again.
I'm not a backwards hat guy for quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I could barely see the hat because the necklace.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Is I don't I don't love it, but the combine
is just you're in street clothes and I don't you
know it's it's not you're not representing anybody. He doesn't.
I mean, seriously, he doesn't play for Colorado, he doesn't
play for an NFL team. He doesn't have an employer,
So who was he representing?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Signaling to your employers? This is how I am.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well, I just he doesn't have an employer. I'm more
concerned that I am sitting in front of Bank of
America Philadelphia Eagles Wednesday representing the organization that I don't
like that. Look you, Matt is this kid doesn't have
an employer right now? Correct?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Do you remember the first time I met you?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
What if I had rolled up jacket, open, backwards hat,
necklace like that, you would No, I'll.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Tell you right now, I would not have hired you
because because if that was a job interview and that's
how you rolled up, this is not I guess you
could argue it's a little bit of a job.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Interview, certainly a job.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I mean, I I don't love it, and I'm not listen.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
I don't want to be saying I'm critical. I'm just
trying to get you to your place where you bashed him.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
No, I'm not bashing him. I don't love it. I
bet you.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Dion calls him and says, hey, turn that hat around.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
What's your relationship like with Dion?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
By the way, I don't have one.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Okay, Yeah, I told you last time I interviewed to
be hung up on me after like four questions, right
like ten years.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Well, we're you asking?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Well, of course, I'm gonna ask tough questions. That's what
I do.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You are a journalist the show. The show only asks
tough questions. There's no layups. There's no layups on this show.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Tron Armstead was sweating drinks of that interview.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well, he won't commit if he's staying or playing. So
I wanted to break news on the show. If I
kept pressing it, that was clear. Yeah, I mean we
are newsbreakers, bastion of journalists. Yeah, CNN watches us for
tips on journalism. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Linett Safford is a ram Let's guess the number. Two years,
one hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
I'll go two years one oh five. Okay, seventy million guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Stars don't want to leave LA. I like they like
planning here. How about you? You love it out here?
I love it. It was great.
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Wherever you may be and however you may be listening,
Thanks for making us part of your day. So Jmack,
I want to talk about something. So there's a story
because the reason the Dallas Mavericks moved off Luca they
thought he was lazy, he played no defense, he wasn't
in shape, and he kept having a reoccurring cap injury,
(00:48):
which they connected to his lack of conditioning. Also, beer
drinker European liked SIGs. Doesn't work hard in the off seats. Hookah. Whatever.
The point being is what I'm about to say, I
believe is that moving to La he'll get in better shape.
Now I'll get into that in a second. But there's
a story this morning that Luca Dallas called the Tea
(01:12):
Wolves and said we'll trade you. You give us Aunt,
We'll give you Luca, and the Tea Wolves said no, thanks. Now,
I would not trade Luca for Aunt. I think Aunt
is younger, He's in much better shape. He's a much
better athlete. He's a much better defender. I've said this before,
and I'm on record saying this. I think Luca is
a better Carmelo Anthony. I don't necessarily think he always
(01:35):
makes teammates better. I never think he's in great shape,
and he's a below average defender. He's an all time
gifted offensive player. But I wouldn't trade. If I was Minnesota,
I wouldn't give up Aunt. Ant's younger, better shape, better defender.
I think he's not as naturally effortlessly. I mean the
way Ant shooting threes this year, It's like, damn, he's
(01:56):
not that far behind Lucas shooting threes. But it's funny
when I watched Luke play. All the criticisms that the
MAVs had about Luca, Let's be honest, they're on display.
He's a terrible defender. He doesn't have the energy of
forty year old Lebron. He's not close to forty year
(02:16):
old Lebron as a defender. Now, I would have I'm
the Lakers. I still would have moved Ad out. But
if Ad was healthy with Kyrie Irving, there's an argument
that is a great fit because Kyrie and Luca did
not defend. Ad is a remarkable defender. So in a way,
Dallas is getting beat up because AD's not healthy and
Lively is not available. Dallas a really good basketball team
(02:39):
and a much better defensive team. Now that Lucas gone,
the Lakers now are a much better offensive team, and
I think Luca's great. I thought we were talking about this.
I have because you know, I've chased commerce. I've lived
in Connecticut. I spent a lot of time in Rhode Island.
I spent a lot of time in Chicago. I lived
in Vegas, Los Angeles, Tampa, Los Angeles. A fifty year
(03:03):
old man in Los Angeles is in better shape and
looks better than a fifty year old man in Chicago.
We got a beach, and we got mountains, and the
weather's always good, and people hike and go to the
beach in January, like that's just what they do in
most American cities. Even in Phoenix in the summer it's
too hot to go outside. You can go outside every
day of the year in Los Angeles. You can golf
(03:24):
almost every day of the year. You can hike every
day of the year. You can go to the beach
all but about thirty days of the year, and so
and there's just there's a weird thing about Los Angeles.
It's a very competitive place in terms of being in shape.
Like the women compete against the women, the men compete
against the men. It's a real thing. Anthony Davis was
never in better shape than when he came to Los Angeles.
(03:44):
After about three years he got into the lifestyle. Eight
he was in great shape. He was not when he
came here. He was always hurt. They used to make
fun of the dad. Bod was in New Orleans. He
was in the South. It just the food's different, and
you know in the summer you're not going to go
outside much. So this is about Luca. As I look
at Luca and I watch him, you know, Dallas had
(04:07):
their concerns, but the Minnesota Timberwolves are like, we're not
trading Aunt for Luca. Like the criticisms of Luca are
on display. He cannot defend he is not in good shape. Now,
I think you'll get there. I understand his inactivity is
a big part of this, but I mean the players
that Luca guarded last night shot fifty five percent. Terren Shannon,
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a junior, was three or four when guarded by Luca
and went for a career high twenty five. So there's
a little Carmelo Anthony here where you're getting an all
time naturally gifted player. But you know, the cardio and
the defensive concerns, they're on display. Even if he got
(04:50):
significantly better, he's not great at either. Let's just be
honest about it. Okay. So Steph Curry last night, he
hadn't done this in a long time, but it was
it wasn't all. Here is his twelfth three last night
from NBC Sports Bay Area. To delay lost the handle,
(05:12):
Curry to beat the buzzer for three. Good Steph's got
twelve please, And Steph Curry is one of those athletes.
And I think you see it sometimes in baseball if
somebody throws a no hitter, like I think if you're
on the road and you throw a no hitter, like
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the opposing crowd, you know, gives you a standing o.
It's like you did a great job. We can acknowledge it.
Maybe not if it's a playoff game, but in most instances,
everybody acknowledges. You may not have loved Tiger, but if
Tiger hits the clincher at the Masters, you're sitting there
live in the gallery watching a historic moment. Like last night.
Steph pointed this out after the game. The Orlando fans
(05:56):
were enjoying the hell out of this performance.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
This I got to always say, played this game, enjoy
the competition, the creativity, and it's grown over the ears
where you can drive off of a road crowd, which
is pretty as saying with every gray hair that pops
up on the top of your head, you can get
to appreciate moments and milestones like this, so very very special.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, Lebron and Curry incredible nights. So I want to
go back to the Luca thing. And I would have
made the deal too if I was the Lakers, absolutely
would have made the deal. I think they stole him.
But would you acknowledge j Mack? Would you acknowledge because
there's two players in the NBA that you loved because
you're a bit of a gunner who doesn't defend, But
(06:41):
there's two players in the NBA that you loved and
I thought were great. But I never thought Tatum was
a top three player when Marcus Smart was taking the
ball from him and they had to get market Smart
out of town. You don't have to trade people because
they're taking it away from Kobe or MJ. So I
like Tatum a lot. I think he's a top ten player.
(07:01):
I was never as hot. My take on Luca was
he's a much better Carmelo. But when you watch him
and you watch Lebron's energy, can you acknowledge now that
he should should even with his inactivity, he should be
better than he is right now?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
All right, it's Friday, right. I know you have a
big weekend plan.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I don't want to send you off to the weekend
in a bad mood.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But this Luca is Carmelo Anthony nonsense. It's got to stop.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Luca's like top ten in the league and assists every year.
Carmelo Anthony was allergic to passing. Literally, he would like
break out and hides if he had to pass the basketball.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That's why he didn't like Jeremy Lynn.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I don't want pass this guy, get him out of town.
Luca makes everyone on his team better. He carried the
MAVs to the finals last year. Carmelo No couldn't carry
a team anywhere. No, I said Syracuse, that's it.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But defense and being in elite shape both are very similar,
and they're both farallon naturally gifted. At nineteen years old,
Mellow at Syracuse and Luke in the NBA were ten
years ahead of players. I mean they were literally you know.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Who else is Donna s Patrick Mahomes and his dad Bob.
Dwight Howard at the height of his powers in the
NBA was eating crap candy like you and I eat,
Remember you would eat.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Skittles and all that crap.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Like, just don't you're going overboard on Luca Man, He's
he's going through a tough stretch with a new team,
a new city. You know, I know he's trucking real
estate agents looking at some real estate out here in
LA Like.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
By the beat.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
He's got a lot. Stop, he's got a lot going on. Colin,
Let's let's give him a break.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
He's off the let's be injury. I think he's great,
and I said this the other day. I think his
ability to pass the ball up the floor, it's not
in the half court stuff. His ability to get the
rebound and get it up the floor, it's very yokick.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
She's got magic Johnson vision.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah. No, like he finds guys over the head, over
the I'm not denying that. I'm just saying Minnesota got
a call and they're like, no way, we're not giving
up ant. And I believe most NBA diehards think Luca
is better than and and Minnesota was like, no, thank you,
Luca better than I think Lucas.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Don't think there's any debate there.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Okay, the Edwards is awesome, but I love him one
of my top like seven.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, but Minnesota was like, no, because people tell you
who they are.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And Luke, you think Luca's gonna stay in Minnesota if
they traded in there?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, I don't fine not stay in there.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't even know if Anthony Edwards will stay there.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And hey, by the way, somebody just sent me something
on the Steph Curry flurry that you talked about earlier.
So last night, Charles Barkley, when they were showing the
Curry twelve threes, he goes, oh, this is a fluke.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
That's the kind of hate I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, and I'm made up. It's no AI fuks like, oh,
there's a fluke.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Curry has, according to the NBA account, the most games
with nine or more threes in NBA history by like
a mile.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He has like forty five.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, he's the greatest shooter in Leake history.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
He's calling it a fluke, Like, what are you doing, Charles, Well,
it's funny, that's stupid.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Well, I just I think he's I think he's poking
people in the ribs. I think, without question, there are
certain things that are true. Kareem had the most unstoppable
shot in league history. Steph Curry's the greatest shooter in
NBA history, And Michael Jordan is the most relentless offensive
player in league history. Yeah, Michael could have averaged forty
(10:13):
five a game easily if he wanted to. He was
unstoppable offensive.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
He also never won anything without Scotti, Pippen and Phil Jackson.
Yeah whatever, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
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Speaker 1 (11:41):
Wake the neighbors. Tell your friends you want to watch
the next twenty minutes. Tarn Armstead twelve years in the NFL,
A five time pro bowler, started with a Saints, went
to the Dolphins. One of the great multi left tackles,
pass blocking, run blocking in the NFL for a long time.
Could play still available. We'll get into that in a second.
This guy's full of personality that you know that what's
(12:02):
always interesting. I'm fascinated by this. How in the hell
did you end up being overlooked by SEC teams? It
didn't take you very long to be good in the NFL.
You went to Arkansas Pine Bluff. I know where Arkansas is.
I don't know where the pine or the bluff is at.
Why were you a late bloomer?
Speaker 8 (12:21):
I think my area was just overlooked.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
My high school was behind the times as far as exposure, okay,
putting the eyes on guys and getting the tape to
where it was available. You know, I was still VHS,
very very a lot of static.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Look Josh Allen, same thing. Oh really, yo, No, I
mean literally didn't get a single college offer. Oh wow,
played out in the sticks in Northern calling.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
For same situation.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
Yeah, so if you were watching my film, you would
have to kind of figure out which of those dots
were me and we liked that guy and that it
didn't happen for me.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Did you know did you go to the Combine?
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I did?
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay, when did you know I'm better that guy? I'm
better than that guy?
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Like?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
When did you know I'm going to play in this league?
Speaker 9 (13:06):
I wouldn't say that combine was that situation for me.
Combin helped me get more odds and more exposure. I
had broke the forty yard dash record for the offensive
lineman ran four sixty five to two, so look at that. Yeah,
So that that just helped me get my name out
and got more people to watch my film. My college
film had some static too, but it was more DVD.
(13:26):
It wasn't VHS, No Moore, so it's hard to see
that too. But Combin helped me tremendously. But as far
as like which guy that I felt like I could
play against for I'm better than never really been my thing.
I went to the East West Shrine game and then
got invited to the Senior Ball the next week. So
those two weeks were probably the most revealing for me
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as far as level of talent, because I kept hearing
that through the process, your a level of talent that
you played against is going to be different than the
SEC guys. So first, one on one, I'll tell you
a quick story. First one on one at the Senior Ball,
I got the late A lineup. It's a Dan from Georgia.
I don't remember his name, and I'm like, this is
my moment. I jumped at him, threw his ass five
(14:08):
yards and jumped on him everything like I blacked out
And that was my right then, And there was my
moment of you can do this, you can play at
this level.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I love stories like that.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The you know, it's funny. We were talking during the break.
I love Sean Payton. Sean Payton facetiming last night in
Indy and you played for him for years and he
is very blunt. He and Russell Wilson. Russell's mister optimism,
Shawn's mister authentic honesty. Like it it clashed. Yeah, you
(14:41):
didn't like Seawann early, I didn't.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
I didn't like him at all my first three four years.
But I appreciated him like I appreciated his coaching style.
He's very direct, he was very aggressive, but he wasn't
personable at all. Like I couldn't say nothing to him,
couldn't make it a suggestion or opinion or anything.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
The only time he talked to you was if you
messed up. That was it. Like he was not a
pat on the back guy at all.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
So as a young player coming from Arkansas pinm Bluff,
I was.
Speaker 8 (15:14):
Looking for a little you know what I mean, a
little something.
Speaker 9 (15:17):
But everything that he taught me in those first four years,
it stuck with me, and it taught me what's important
doing your job, execution, play after play, a game after game,
and I couldn't I.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Can't thank the man enough.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
And then later on my last five years together, we
became best friends and I love him to death that
the stories that he has and the moments that we've
shared together.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
He went the extra mile for me.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Twenty twenty, during COVID, my brother passed away and we
couldn't travel, so, you know, it was looking like I
wouldn't be able to go to the funeral, and I'm like,
I'm driving if that's the case. This middle of the
week and Sean called me to his office and he's like,
missus Benson, I told her the situation. We're taking her plane,
we're going to the funeral. I'm like, what do you
mean way, It's like, I'm coming with you. We're going
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to the And he came up to my hometown, me
and him, Dan Rochark, he just signed with the Bears
as the O line Coach album Kamara and Latavia's Murray,
and we all went to the funeral together and Sean
was amongst the people and he helped my family like
genuinely had had people laughing and smiling at really the
toughest time of our lives.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
So forever, forever grateful for that man.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
By the way, somebody said on the staff, they said, hey,
tarn is going to give you crap about Steph Curry
who dropped fifty six last night. What are you going
to say to me? I was very complimentary today have
Steph Curry?
Speaker 9 (16:42):
Yeah no, So now that you mentioned it, and it's
about eight years ago that you said this, eight years Yeah,
I've been holding on to it that I've been waiting
for you. Yeah, So eight years I honestly, don't even
remember what you said.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
I just know at the moment I didn't like it.
Didn't like it one bit.
Speaker 9 (16:58):
What I say it was, he is he can he
win a championship? Uh, you know by selling he does?
He need X, Y and Z to do it. It
was it was something crazy.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Just it's just out razing and it just bothered you.
Speaker 8 (17:13):
It bothered me so bad.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But you know what It's funny about Steph Curry. He
goes to Davidson so none of us watch him small school.
You and him have something in common. He has ankle
issuers ankle issues. He's not very good defensively at all.
Speaker 8 (17:28):
My ankle, my ankle is pretty good. I heard everything else,
but the ankles were good.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But he was he had to develop into something.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
And there was there were talk they were going to
keep Monte Ellis and and move him like there that
was Jerry west Is like, we're not doing that. I
think I think it was Jerry West or somebody in
the organization. And the truth is is that I do
think the jet fuel to players like you and Curry.
And I've said this about this year's quarterback draft. They're
(17:58):
all getting crushed. This is them all.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And what makes Curry so great is that he just
he just always works at his craft. And I think
sometimes and I see this a little with Luca. Luca
was so good at sixteen, beating European men. He's still
not in good shape. Like what the harder things are
to attain, the more it fuels you for the rest
(18:24):
of your life. Steph Curry will be competitive golfing at
seventy four because of Davidson and going to your life.
The fact you were doubted even today, does it take
you because you were I think you were great at
top four, third best, top three tackle last year? Does
it still drive you crazy? Do you feel disrespected by that?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
I do? I do? And that to your point, it
that's what drew me to Steph Curry. Like to be.
Speaker 9 (18:50):
To become a fan of Steph Curry is all the
noise and for him to use it as fuel and
to work to work, to work, to work to become
what he has become. I took the same approach. I
had to work over time to go from Arkansas Pine
Bluff and be a small school guy, underachiever, all of
those things whatever to be a five time pro bowler.
Speaker 8 (19:12):
All pro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
And it's still like you say, to this day, was
third rate tackle this year?
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Whatever? Who was grays or metrics.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
But I just always got to prove myself And I'm
okay with that because I love the grind, I love
the work, I love getting better, I love the progression.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
It's just a part of who I am.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
So I've said this before. NFL's obviously rewarding financially offensive
players over defensive players. But I've said there's a handful
of defensive players in my life. Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor,
Aaron Donald, They're just different in facts. Miles Garrett is
pretty close to that, and my argument is if you
give him a winning environment, he'll play even better. Like
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Lebron looks better now that Luke's there, for sure. I mean,
Staff's playing better, Jimmy Butler's there. It's like they're showing
up and like everybody's watching my games. Now. How many
times have you faced Miles Garrett and physically he should
have more body fat at that size. Is he a
top matchup even for you?
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Yeah, I've played him three times. I would say I
think we played the first time in twenty eighteen. That
is a top three one on one old line.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
Versuity line battle.
Speaker 9 (20:21):
I went and watched it again, probably two months ago.
It's a it's a it's a dogfight.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
I won. I did it. I just put that out.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
I won.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
But if you go back and watch that game, I
got no help. He got no help. He lined up here,
I line up here, and we went at it for
the entire game twenty eighteen.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Go watch that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
So the next day when you wake up, be honest
with me, is it hard to get out of bed
when you play somebody at that longp For sure?
Speaker 9 (20:46):
For sure that you get a physical dog fight like that,
somebody that's like really it's like a train wreck.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
For sures.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
You feel every part of it, your neck, back, shoulders,
for sure, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
By the way, Matt Stafford just reached an agreement with
the Rams. Oh wow, so got the Raiders came after him.
But it was interesting. According to Diana Russini, the Raiders
only offer two years, which is what the Rams are offering,
so the trade speculation talk is done. The first significant
offseason quarterback Domino has fallen the Rams and Stafford. According
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to Adam Schefter have reached an agreement on a restructured deal.
My guess is two years. I'm not sure about the money.
Stafford's pretty unique. You know what I always appreciate about Stafford.
A lot of these older quarterbacks don't want to get hit.
Matt will sit in there fearless to the last half second, fearless.
You've hit him a few times. I mean you've hit him.
(21:43):
You've been in games against Stafford. Are there is there
a secret code the quarterbacks? Like Breeze was a smaller
quarterback as he got older, tell me what it's like
to protect like Tua. We got concussions. He don't want
to get You don't want to get hit. Do you
you feel a responsibility because of Tua's concussions? Does that
(22:04):
add pressure to you?
Speaker 9 (22:06):
It's pressure playing that position anyway, being being the front line.
Like I had two smaller quarters, I've had two smaller
quarterbacks my career, Drew Brees and Ta Guy.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
By the way, Tua Breeze is to comp.
Speaker 9 (22:19):
For sure, for sure, and for a good reason too.
It's not it's not for nothing. He's he is that
from that claw. So the stressful part and it's real
life stress, Like, it's anxiety that goes on in past protection.
That's like the worst thing in the world is to
get your quarterback hit to me. So if I give
up a sack, like, no matter how I played for
(22:40):
the rest of the game, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
My day is ruined. It's ruined. I get the quarterback hit.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Only gave up three last year.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
I don't think two of those are on me. So
we got to go back and watch the film. Yeah,
that's a lot of factors goes into that.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Is there a guy in the league that gave you
more trouble and he wasn't a high draft pick?
Speaker 8 (22:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
You know, bo what said this? There are guys in
the NBA. They have maybe a weird body or whatever.
But if you ask players are like, I mean, I
remember Dominique Wilkins telling me, he goes, I love playing MJ.
I did not sleep playing Bernard King. Bernard could just
say I'm scoring fifty four tonight, he goes. I couldn't
stop him. He goes, I hated playing it. Is there
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a guy in the league that you're like because Max
Crosby talks a lot of trash he does, and he's
a fourth I think he's a fourth rounder. Is there
a guy in the league that you maybe don't sleep
quite as well the night before?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
No, I would say I feel the same way as
as Dominique, Like I would rather block Miles Garrett and
Max Crosby.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Wow, I would. I will.
Speaker 9 (23:40):
It's the guy that just got elevated off practice squad.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
I'm terrified of him. I'm scared to death. He is.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
He's in his stands, he got his his leg is shaken. Goddamn,
he's about to rush with everything in.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
His being intimidating. No, No, the scouts who you talkt who's.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
A tactic squad? Guy that's that just got elevated this week.
They told him on Winnsday, Hey, you're gonna play this week?
You might not get me a terrified I'm fearful. Yeah,
I don't want to see him. Give me Max, give
me Miles Garrett. Yeah, that practice squad I got it,
just called up. I don't want no smokers.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
That young man.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
He's got nothing but energy, nothing but energy.
Speaker 9 (24:17):
He's gonna run through my face masks over and over
and I throw him to the ground. But I'm like
supposed to. So it's like, you know what, I mean,
he gonna get up and do it again? Would I
don't want to see him.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You've made your money. You can retire today. But you
play outside of quarterback, the most important position in the sport.
If a good team called you up and said, dude,
two years would you would you go play?
Speaker 8 (24:43):
I'm on a good team, so no, so you wouldn't?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
You were not gonna play.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
I'm on a good team already.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Why know?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
But I mean, so nobody else can call me you?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Would you? This is it?
Speaker 8 (24:55):
I'm a yeah, Dolphins only.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
But you're you're you're kind of pausing.
Speaker 8 (25:01):
I'm not I think it's natural pauses in a conversation.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
That's funny. So what do you do now? You're how old?
Speaker 8 (25:12):
Are you? Thirty?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Okay? You got you got some money, You've had a career. Yeah,
what do you do? What is an Can most people retire?
I'm sixty and still working. The average person will be
great man sixty five, sixty six. You're thirty three and
can wrap it up? What do you do?
Speaker 8 (25:30):
I weigh my options?
Speaker 9 (25:31):
Right, I feel like being in the league for so long,
having a successful career and I've done well financially. It
gives me cushion in room to make a decision like
this and to see if I want to continue to
go out and compete in pursuit of a championship. That's
the goal, like that, honestly, honestly speaking, that is that's
the goal. So it's a lot of factors that goes
(25:54):
into that. A lot of health for sure. But then kids,
my kids getting older, my twin girls about to be
team they're just pray for me please, So those type
of things are factors for sure. The Dolphins have been
incredible and graceful allowing me this time. I know you've
seen the contract restructure that we we just came to.
It worked well for all parties. It allowed me a
little bit more time to think and allowed them to
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do whatever they need to do necessary to improve it.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
It made you an offer, the Dolphins.
Speaker 8 (26:21):
Have you said structure money? Yeah, yeah, we restructure. Yeah.
You haven't signed it, not physically.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Are you going to? Yeah? Again, you're pausing.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You're pausing when I asked you are you going to
sign the contract?
Speaker 9 (26:38):
What the restructure is is like I took my projected
salary down to minimum. Okay, So it allows the Dolphins
to do with the new space cap space to.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
Do whatever they need to do to improve the team.
Speaker 9 (26:53):
It allows me the time to make a decision whether
I want to keep planning or not. So if I decide, hey,
we're doing it, so I'm locking in, let's go, then
we have another conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay, Matt Stafford broke news. You could do it right
after I could.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
I want to let Matt have his day? Would I
be to take his shine? And then they only talking
about me today? You know?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
All right? You know you've you've had Sean Payton's intensity
as a coach, Dan Campbell's almost he's a player, and
now you've got this wizard this like MI I t
Mike McDaniel. Be honest about Mike McDaniel. First time you
saw him, did you say he's gonna stand in front
(27:35):
of us he's a little bit different? Right?
Speaker 8 (27:37):
No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
My first time I saw him was I was on
a visit, so it was it was one on one
and he just came in. He came in with energy. Man,
he was he was excited. He had just got there
three or four days before.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
So he didn't know where his pans and yeah, he is,
for sure, he's he's different. He's different, but that's okay
because he's It's genuinely him.
Speaker 8 (28:00):
And that's what I appreciate. Is not a front, is
not an act.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
It's him, and you spend time with him, you'll see
that and you have a deeper appreciation for him.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Tarron Armstead, you know you're always welcome.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You can always come by the show.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
You come to my show too. I don't have one yet,
but one day when I do. You let me tell
you that a free to come through. It's a dead
end career. There's no reason to do this.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
You hang out with your beautiful twin daughters. Are they athletes?
Speaker 8 (28:28):
What are they? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Basketball players? Best sixth grade team in the country. Going
to a Nationals again? Yeah, back to back, we're doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
What do you weigh right now? By the way, that's personal.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
What do you weigh about two eighty five?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
What do you play at?
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Tone eight three hundred.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
That's a light tackle for you to be that good
at that.
Speaker 8 (28:49):
Weight, appreciate it strong.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
What do you This is a weird question. If I
said Max Raps bench. What do you bench? This is
it's a weird question.
Speaker 9 (28:59):
Was huh, I'm not benching no more. You don't bench, no,
not Max rev No.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
No, you're just doing light stuff trying to keep tone.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Yeah, I get what I need to get in a
lot of pilates and stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
Really about that course?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
How about that? Ye?
Speaker 8 (29:13):
When I grab him, it's no getting away.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Okay, Matt Stafford is signed with the Rams. We'll say
it again. Uh, congrass, Yeah, that's that's so. We said.
We thought the Raiders were in play, but in the
end the Rams wanted that first Raiders pick and probably
a second, and the Raiders said that's a little bit
too much. So Stafford whose legacy again, if you give
him a second super Bowl, that's l way, That's Peyton Manning,
(29:36):
that's big Ben. Don't forget how a quarterback's career ends
goes a long way in forming that legacy. Right now,
Stafford's considered great. He becomes an all time great with
a second Super Bowl, and the Rams are in that
short little window where they could do it great meeting.
You Heardline News next live in La it's the Herd.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
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Speaker 4 (30:02):
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Speaker 1 (30:22):
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Speaker 3 (30:22):
Take a listener.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
I just need to notice man and tell me in truth.
Don't lie to me a cause I got a lot
of confidence. Are you confident? And I'm out a bitley right?
My Billy goes on plus on a dish with it.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
You've got a zero chance. I'm sorry, It's just.
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wash the rice.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
But yeah, you'll never drive his foss as made Brian.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I've been by the way Fox this year had the
Super Bowl, the fundred, the Daytona five hundred, and the
World Series, and I've if you've ever stood next to
an Indy car, you cannot believe how fast they are
and they're on the ground They're so low to the ground.
It is like nothing you've ever seen. It's an incredible
experience live nothing like it. All right, Okay, By the way,
(31:14):
Matt Staffords re signed with the Rams, I thought the
Raiders had a real shot. According to Schefter, the New
York Giants, now that they're out of the Matt Stafford race,
are considering other veteran quarterback options, including Aaron Rodgers. I
(31:34):
don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 8 (31:36):
Aaron.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I think he bought a place over in Hoboken or
something on the hill overlooking the city. I think if
our memory serves me correctly, so the Rams listen, you
know what it tells me. It tells me, if possible,
the Rams will take a left tackle with their first pick.
They don't want to pay a left tackle, and Stafford
and Cooper Cup they've tried to move off Cooper Cup.
(31:59):
That put the name out out there, so that means
they're paying Stafford big boy money. I don't know what
the number is. My guess it's around fifty million for
two years. I'm guessing I have no idea that that
does tell me. In the draft they have to address
They got to go get a starting tackle because haven
Stein right tackle makes good money getting near the end
the left tackle. I think he's a free agent, yes, yeah,
(32:20):
so they want to restart the clock on left tackle
because they're paying Cop, they're paying Stafford, they're paying haven Stein,
they're paying their tight end, they're paying nobody on defense.
But I think this tells you they're going to go
if they can left tackle in the first round of
the draft. And at the end of the first round,
Josh Connor Lee from Oregon. There's a kid from Minnesota
we talked about yesterday. So there's a couple of good ots.
(32:42):
There's not a great left tackle in this draft, but
mid to late first round. That kid out of Oregon's
getting better every year. They got a shot. But that's
what that tells me that offensive tackle with match new
deal is going to become a priority.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
The problem now becomes what do you do if you're
the Giants and they had you know, they were all.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
In on Stafford.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
They tried, he stayed with the Rams. Now you got
Brian Dable fighting for his job in New York. Do
you make a play for Aaron Rodgers? Like, do you
have any come across town quarterback? Us I don't know
that they're good through offensive line is a dumpster fire
right now?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
And what do the Raiders do?
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Colin, like Pete Carroll knew on the job, You're not
getting Shador, He's not falling the six.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He's gonna go too. It's gonna be cam Ward and.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Shadoor at the top and a lot of teams. Now,
does Sam Darnold get paid by somebody?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Because no, no, this is this not many options. No, no,
this domino. This is not a bad day for Aaron
Rodgers and Sam Darnold, not bad at all. J Mack
with a news No, no, turn on the news. This
is the herd line news.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
A little war breaking news in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
If you remember, the Giants had a debacle letting Saquon
Walk in free agency to the Eagles and that was
all televised.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Well, now, the.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
NFL could not find a team to do hard knocks off.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Season, so they went to a guy with a lot
of NFL experience, Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
So Bill Belichick and.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
The North Carolina tar Hills will be featured, wow on
Hard Knocks offseason.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
This is a genius move by Belichick.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's a massive recruiting tool right to have a college
football program on HBO televised.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
You know it's going to get a lot of media coverage.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I think this is smart by Belichick showing now that
there's a different side to Bill.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
He's not the old grumpy guy with the hoodie in
the holes. He's a new dude. I think this is
a home run for him.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You know, it's really interesting. Bill had a comment, it
was about two months ago, how he was. He talked
about ownership in the NFL and that if there are
too many owners now, too many billionaires, and you don't
really have control of the football operation, and the one
(34:50):
thing you do as a college coach, you have control
of the football operation. And I think it shows us
that Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells may have different people,
but the one thing, the line that neither one wants
to cross is Parcels left Dallas and New England when
(35:10):
he didn't feel he had control, right and that that
is I and I look at that right like, and
I think Belichick has shown you with his college thing,
letting HBO in tells you, I'm here for a couple
of years. I'm sure his girlfriend will be the star
of the show. But needless to say, I think it
(35:32):
does make me. It makes me harken back to that
three month ago comment, where as the league's owners have
gotten richer and more impulsive and more meddling, Bill just
doesn't feel like when he only got one team to
look at him, he may have just said the hell
with the NFL, Like I just don't want to be
there anymore. That's what it makes me feel, like doing
(35:52):
this show and like he's making he's in for this thing.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
So you think, like, just imagine this scenario. The ad
at North.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Carolina, whoever he is, is upset with Belichick over two
million dollars on some player. Can you imagine that conversation.
The Ady going to a Bill, Bill, we're over budget here.
Belichick's gonna look at it me be like, I may
tripping your salary. I don't want to hear it. HBO's
on campus, Be quiet, stay in your place.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I'm gonna run the football part.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Nobody's telling Belichick what to do in North Carolina, right,
nobody but Kraft. Remember he famously said you've got to
trade Garoppolo because Brady wants to be here for the
long hall, and Belichick was like upset with that power
and control is very important.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Bill Belichick has all of it right now, Colin.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Now, next up is Steph Curry's master class last night?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
What are performance?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Twelve threes on his way to fifty six points? Warriors
another win since acquiring Jimmy Butler. Steph's been huge, obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
But Jimmy Butler as well.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Listened to Jamal Mosley, the Orlando coach, talk about Steph Curry.
Speaker 8 (36:52):
The man had fifty six points. There is no aside
from Steph. He had fifty six.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
You gotta love that fifty six points, Colin, and they
were like, well, what else was going on?
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Stiff Curry? Now most fifty point games after.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Turning thirty five or older. Now, Jalen Suggs did not play.
Who's a very good defender for Orlando. Yeah, he did
not play. That helps it was one of the and
Orlando's a good defensive team. But Suggs is a He
is a defensive ball where he's intense.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
You know, that's my guy. If Curry wants to go
for fifty, he's gonna get fitted. Okay, nobody gets stop.
Suggs is a great defender.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
I guess the real question, Colin, do you think they're
back in the championship discussion. Are they on the fringe
like your Super Bowl bubble? Do you had an NBA
Finals bubble championship bubble?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Would the Warriors be in there or on the fridge?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Uh? If I had an NBA championship bubble. So my
NFL bubble is usually about seven teams, I would say Celtics, Calves,
ok Se, Lakers, Nuggets, Nuggets, Knicks. I don't. I don't
think the Knicks. I think the Knick in the West
(38:01):
would be even more exposed defensively. Bucks.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think the Warriors are one of those teams in
the Super Bowl bubble that I put just on the outside.
I don't know if offensively they can keep up with
the Lakers. Austin ruy Lebron. I mean the Lakers right
now played poorly on offense last night and still drop
what they dropped. I still I think Jimmy Butler helps,
(38:32):
but I think they can still be very steff dependent
on their best nights. But they're close.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Steph Curry tremendous night final story. Colin is last hour,
we talked about cam Ward. This hour, let's talk about
seeduor Sanders. He met with the media yesterday and said
he doesn't understand how people are evaluating.
Speaker 10 (38:54):
When people say, I'm not you know one of the
top quarterbacks. Are the top quarterback? Do y'all going based
off of because I did a year year after year
after year. Then you see the progressive So that obviously
you gotta be some type of external hate that you
have for the family for the last day for anything,
because I know I proved myself on the field.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Yeah, I think people like him. Actually, I think one
of the strains he has is people think he's a
good kid.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
They like him.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I think. Also, never forget when Andrew Locke. Remember a
week before the draft, everybody was like, I don't know
if Andrew Luck's got a good arm. We nitpicked these
guys to death. Like shadur is an NFL starting quarterback,
how great he is? I don't know you have had one.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
I would say one of your most famous takes on
the Herd has to do with backwards hats at podiums.
I know it's usually reserved for quarterbacks in a certain day.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Does that shadere video right there? Reply? Because that was
a backwards hat at the combine.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
I'm not I'm not not really freaking me out yet
not let me look at the coming show it again.
I'm not a backwards hat guy for quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I could barely see the hat because the necklace.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Is I don't I don't love it, but the combine
is just you're in street clothes and I don't you
know it's it's not you're not representing anybody. He doesn't.
I mean, seriously, he doesn't play for Colorado, he doesn't
play for an NFL team. He doesn't have an employer,
So who was he representing?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Signaling to your employers? This is how I am.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well, I just he doesn't have an employer. I'm more
concerned that I am sitting in front of Bank of
America Philadelphia Eagles Wednesday representing the organization that I don't
like that. Look you, Matt is this kid doesn't have
an employer right now? Correct?
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Do you remember the first time I met you?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
What if I had rolled up jacket, open, backwards hat,
necklace like that, you would No, I'll.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Tell you right now, I would not have hired you
because because if that was a job interview and that's
how you rolled up, this is not I guess you
could argue it's a little bit of a job.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Interview, certainly a job.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
I mean, I I don't love it, and I'm not listen.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
I don't want to be saying I'm critical. I'm just
trying to get you to your place where you bashed him.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
No, I'm not bashing him. I don't love it. I
bet you.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Dion calls him and says, hey, turn that hat around.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
What's your relationship like with Dion?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
By the way, I don't have one.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
Okay, Yeah, I told you last time I interviewed to
be hung up on me after like four questions, right
like ten years.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Well, we're you asking?
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Well, of course, I'm gonna ask tough questions. That's what
I do.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You are a journalist the show. The show only asks
tough questions. There's no layups. There's no layups on this show.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Tron Armstead was sweating drinks of that interview.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Well, he won't commit if he's staying or playing. So
I wanted to break news on the show. If I
kept pressing it, that was clear. Yeah, I mean we
are newsbreakers, bastion of journalists. Yeah, CNN watches us for
tips on journalism. J Mack with the news.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Linett Safford is a ram Let's guess the number. Two years,
one hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
I'll go two years one oh five. Okay, seventy million guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Stars don't want to leave LA. I like they like
planning here. How about you? You love it out here?
I love it. It was great.
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