March 27, 2025 • 34 mins
Colin reacts to the LeBron's game winning tip in for the Lakers against the Pacers and why LA is all about the postseason at this point. UCLA head coach Mick Cronin joins the show to tell Colin about recruiting Duke superstar Cooper Flagg in high school and why he knew he was special at 14 years old. J-Mac shares his "Tomorrow Headlines Today" previewing the Sweet Sixteen of the NCAA tournament
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh March Madness resumes tonight. Duke in Arizona, My bracket
may implode. All fired up for it, Live in Los
Angeles at The Herd. Wherever you may be listening. However
you may be listening, Thanks for making us part of
your day. I watched some NBA hoops last night. You know,
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it's getting they always call it in baseball the dog
days of summer, and some of these teams that are good,
like Cleveland, they're like, Okay, let's give that guy the
night off, let's get reduced the minutes. Lakers are not
in that situation because they're they could go up in
the seeding or down if they don't get their act together.
But it was very interesting last night. So Lebron had
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his worst half of NBA basketball in the first half
on the road at Indiana. He didn't do anything. It
was I watched the first half, I'm like, this is awful.
But uh, and a lot of people think the NBA
should cut it. Scheduled through about sixty five games. Last
night was Laker game number seventy two, and they want
the playoffs to start. These are the dog days. It's
like senioritis in high school. We got accepted to college.
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Can we just wrap her up? I don't want to
go to the Spanish class anymore. Geometry, I'm done. I
don't need the credits. You know what it is. We
all did that right. And so that's where the Lakers are.
But they're in a precarious situation because they're the four seed.
They could move up to the two. They're they're not
getting past Oka see or they could fall down to
a play in game. And their schedule's brutal. They play
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the thunder twice, a young team that's deep and plays hard.
They play their Rockets twice, a young team that's deep
that could beat him twice. They play the Warriors, they
go to the Grizzlies, by the way. They play the
Mavericks Chicago at home, Chicago's had some weird games. They
beat the Lakers in LA, so they got to be
very careful. They cannot mail it in here. And here's
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the thing to remember about this Laker team as we
move into the dog days. So you know, Luca and Lebron,
these guys can score and do what they want to do.
But this team, Luca has only played nineteen games with
the Lakers, and he's only played twelve when it's been Luca, Lebron,
and Austin all available. So now they're finally healthy, and
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it didn't take until the fourth quarter last night when
they really really played well. But teams like the Calves,
the Celtics and the Nuggets, they have roster rhythm. They
can rest guys now now Tatum's really hurt, but Boston
can rest guys and still win by thirty. Porzingis plays
well on the road, they win by thirty. It's a
whole different ball. That's not the Lakers. Historically, teams that
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make a big sweeping trade at the deadline, like getting Luca,
they don't hold trophies. That's not the way it generally works.
And so Lakers, remember they just lost seven to ten.
Why Lebron was gone, and he came back and he
wasn't ready to play. So they need Lebron to be healthy.
They need Lebron to be engaged. And these are the
senior witis days of high school in the NBA for
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legendary players, even now Steph. Now Steph's gonna take some
time off. Steve Kerr is like he's tired. So you
see it in baseball a lot, you're seeing it in
the NBA. They came back to win. Here's the game
winner by Lebron and the King after.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Lebron's got it with Paul Quick three. Look kind ted
or not Lebron at the buzzer, They will look at
it talking about winning it at the.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Buzzer, look at this thing? Who my good hell, big
Jack with the winner.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I really couldn't really have it too much emotion because
I was trying to see if I got the ball
off in time. To be honest, you know, it's always
tricky when they you know, you kind of touch the ball,
you kind of see the rail light around the backboard,
and you don't quite know if you got it.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I thought I had it on time, but you never know.
After they showed to replay on it. It was definitely
gratifying and know especially where we were, you know, the
way we've been playing, and to come to know how
they've been playing, you know, and to come here and
get a good win in a very hostile environment. That's
a big time for a ball club.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah. So the young teams like Indiana and OKC are
playing their butt off. The teams that have some aide
like Boston and the Warriors and the Lakers, and now
Cleveland now has got guys who have been around. Denver's
got guys that have been around. These are dog days.
You're trying to get everybody rest and reduced minutes. But
the Lakers got to be careful. Thunder twice, Rockets twice, Warriors, Mavericks.
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Tricky game in Chicago. So tonight the tournament resumes Arizona. Duke,
I tried to get really smart. I had a great
first weekend. I have fifteen of the sixteen teams left.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I got him. So my best bracket ever.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's probably gonna go up and smoke tonight because I
got real clever. And I don't think Duke, they'll They've
got all these great freshmen. Freshmen don't win the tournament.
So I think Arizona's gonna beat him tonight. Do I
really think that?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I did, I did two weeks ago. I'm not sure
if I do now. But here's what's interesting. Since Coach
K took over Duke and John Shire, they've had ninety
guys in the NBA. I think Cooper Flag is going
to be their best NBA player ever. So Grant Hill
is the best Dukey ever. His first six years five
times all NBA seconds. Jason Tatum excellent player, Kyrie Irving
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to me only played eight games at Duke would be third.
I think Cooper Flag. And by the way, the NBA
right now twenty four Dukies second best of Kentucky. It's
a factory. And think of all the guys that have
come in since Coach K started. Remember he came from
like Army to Duke, had some turbulent early years. They
almost got rid of him, stayed, built an empire. Than
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John Shire's been a great, great candidate and a choice.
And I think now Grant Hill is the best Dukie ever.
And his injuries shortened his career, but he was an
unbelievable player. But he entered the league at twenty two
Cooper Flagg is entering the league at eighteen. He was
seventeen when the season started, So I think he's going
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to be much better early than Jason Tatum, and I
think he'll be better late than Grant Hill. He won't
be as good as Grant was first year in the NBA.
Grant was an All Star. But I do think Cooper
flag when you watch him tonight, IQ shooting, passing, He's
an excellent defender. He's got to become a better ball
handler in the pros, no question, But everybody's game needs work.
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The kid is just fantastic. He is a finisher. He's
got more of a chip on his shoulder than Jason Tatum.
In fact, Jason Tatum's dad, as Rick Buker, told his
story the other this week, Jason Tatum's dad acknowledges that
he's got everything, the chip, the EQ, He's tough, a finisher,
can shoot scores at all three levels. Just got to
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handle the ball better. But he was seventeen not long ago,
and he'll enter the NBA at eighteen. But here's the
classic NBA dilemma. So years ago when Patrick Ewing went
to the Knicks, and you know how fans are. We
weren't even in a conspiracy theory era, but it was
like the frozen envelope theory because you know, gosh, what
do you know? A good player went to a New
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York team. It should be noted that the Orlando Magic
won the lottery twice. Nobody wants to bring that up
or Cleveland's won it, but yes, at one point the
Nicks with Ewing won it.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
So here's what's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
If you look at the NBA lottery yards, there.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Are three landing spots.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Either perfect perfect would be maybe Chicago or Philadelphia, or hey,
San Antonio with Wimby k would be Utah, great GM,
great coach, a lot of draft picks, they got some
players they're gonna be They're gonna be okay. See if
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they land Cooper Flag, they're gonna be oka. See, and
Utah is a great NBA market. And then there's just
god awful Washington, Charlotte, Toronto's Aacramento. And so if Cooper Flag,
the odds are right now it's mostly awful teams he's
gonna go to. And this has always been the NBA's dilemma.
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If he ended up going to Chicago, it's rigged. I'll
say it again. The Magic won the lottery twice, the
Knicks won at once. But he is an all time
player and here's his coach. As he enters the game
tonight against Arizona.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Cooper is about to move on with something incredibly special.
The next step he's gonna go after this.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Uh, But.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Happiness doesn't necessarily equate to, you know, just becoming a
pro or just making money. And although they're making money
either way now, but I think it's important for guys
to each each guy's their own individual So I think,
depending on the situation, guys should make the decisions for themselves.
But Cooper's thing is different.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Cooper's thing is that's said, and that's going to happen
and as it should.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Now, So if you're twenty years old or in your
early thirties and watching this show, first of all, thank you.
Second of all, what's happening with Cooper flag leaving a
big brand, going to the pros and being good immediately.
That's why everybody used to love the NBA, because that's
the way it always was. Twenty five years ago, Tim
Duncan would go to school, be an All American and
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he would come back two more years, and Ewing would
at Georgetown would be dominant as a freshman. He'd come
back two or three more years. Chris Paul Duncan, Grant Hills.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
They didn't leave after a year.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So you would watch them for years and years and years,
and you'd build up this fascination and visceral connect with
all these players. Then they'd go to the NBA and
they were very good.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Year one.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We are starving for it and we're getting Cooper Flag
and it's so exciting because we don't get this anymore.
Great player at a big brand can walk in and
be a nineteen point a game guy.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
MJ.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
People forget this.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
MJ hits the shot at North Carolina right, Oh my god.
They made the movie Air. He came back two more
seasons after it and didn't win a college title. It's
as if they evaporated Michael Jordan, Dean Smith. He was
so great. He had James Worthy. Dean Smith's like, now,
let the freshman shoot the game winner. He came back
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two more seasons. Everybody did. The Worthies, the Ewings, the MJ's,
the Duncans, they all came back and back, and I've said,
if you want to know about the NBA's popularity, you
know people are gonna go, oh, it's the politics. It's
the fact that we don't know any of these guys
until they're twenty eight years old. We have no connection.
That's why Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese was such a
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TV ratings home run. They'd formed a rivalry in college.
I'm watching the HBO Simmons series on the Celtics, Magic
and Bird at a rivalry in college, and it just
pivoted to the NBA. So the fact that what we're
getting with Cooper Flag is what we used to get
a surplus of. It was a conveyor belt great players, mature,
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ready to crush, maybe make second team All NBA right
out of college. So that's why this is so exciting
for me. It's a little old school in the NBA.
And if you just and I said this, it's one
of my only complaints about Adam Silver, put your arms
around college basketball.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Put your nobody's watching the G League.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
If Cooper Flag dropped thirty eight tonight, I'd actually watch
him if he went to Charlotte, you know, like that's
what the NBA used to be. The whole politics thing.
Maybe that's five percent. It's the fact that guys come
into the league. Can you name the top five guys
drafted last year in the NBA? Nobody can. I'm not
sure GM's in the NBA can. That's the problem is
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that football and now women's basketball is doing this. They
provide us with stories, identifiable stars and rivalries, and then
you just microwave them at the pro level and they're
ready to go. I mean, Reggie Bush had a huge following.
Tim Tebow had a huge following in college. I mean,
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if Zion could have controlled his weight, if John Morant
was more mature, maybe you could have had that. It
wasn't they weren't. It looks like Cooper Flag could be
all right, j Mac, we've got I got a little
tip last night.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
You know, we worked the phones. I called you last
night on something you weren't available.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Oh shoot, I'm sorry, I remember. See, yeah, I had
something going on. Wait did you get added to a
group text chain accidentally? Where did you get this info from?
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I don't get on Drew as CARRISA.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Thompson knows.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
If you put me on one.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I got on an NFL Sunday text chain, and I
immediately eliminated myself, apparently offended the whole building. You removed yourself.
I don't like being on text chains.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Why you just mute the chain?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't even know how to do that. All I
know is my thoughts cannot be shared with forty seven
people simultaneously. If you can get me one on one
you want to meet a phone call. I don't want
things coming out of my head should not be shared
universe something interesting?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Okay, what does this theory have to do with NFL, NBA.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
NFL, Aaron Rodgers. It's variant. It's not just about Aaron's
it could affect Aaron. Got little tidbit last night. Don't
go anywhere live in LA it's the Hurt.
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Speaker 1 (13:55):
When the transfer portal, They've got to get this thing fixed.
I mean, there's gard rails have improved, but it's still
absurd that basically in the middle of this tournament, here
come the transfer portal questions and here was Mac after
a loss.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It's twelve forty am and the season just ended. That's it.
You're gonna ask me about next year? Right now?
Speaker 9 (14:19):
My biggest concern is how bad the seats are on
the Allegiant flight, on that terrible plane that we're going
to have to fly home tomorrow. And is there any
chance that Doug got me some hot food because I
don't eat on game day, that I got something outible?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
By the way, I love that. Listen, I am four.
Let's just start with this transfer portal, nil, where are
you today on that?
Speaker 9 (14:50):
Well, you've got to be positive about it. I've always
I learned this when I was young. Somebody told me,
if you complain, you're never going to achieve. So if
you don't like something, okay, then get a new job.
Don't complain about your job. Shut the hell up. Just
go get a new job. So it is what it
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is now. I'm all for and I have been guys
getting paid like this. This should have happened.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
A long long time ago, and it's just right now.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
The NCAA is on the run, trying to survive, okay,
trying to get help from the government. So I'm of
the opinion, Look, they're trying to figure all this out
they are, they really are, and everybody's telling right now.
The problem is the timing right now, you know, okay,
like this is our best time of year for you
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to this is when you talk about college bass.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
We don't need to be a wait, we should.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Beak talking about the games right now, right not that
the portal open Monday and thirteen hundred guys are already in.
So they got to you know, they got to adjust
and roll and you know, and fix all that. And
I think there'll be adjustments to it. But it's as
far as you know, paying players. I mean, that's here
to stay and it should have came a long time again.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So I have fifteen of the sixteen teams.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
That's impressive.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Jmax. Do you hear that?
Speaker 9 (16:11):
That's impressed? How many you got ten? Oh see, because
you went by the old model. Yeah, and you see
the portal model eliminates the mid major. That's right, because
all their players are playing for us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Right, I'm for it.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
I want to watch UCLA with a stack roster.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
And so is Mark Silverman, you know.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
I mean you look that the networks are all the
network heads, he's your network head.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
They're all for yeah, oh that stuff. All they need Cinderella.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
No, no, no, the executives they want what Duke in Arizona?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So now, but I'm gonna get toasted here because I
tried to outthink the room. I picked Arizona over Duke
for two reasons. Freshmen don't win the title.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I heard you say that, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And secondly, Caleb Love veteran, they got a seven foot
are playing well you know Ucla, Well can they beat
Duke in how.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
Yeah, Well we played Arizona, yes, and I so they
played Duke early in the year.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's when that center wasn't as good.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Well they but they had Crevous Arizona did was there
who was their starting center? He got hurt and then
Vassar started playing more. But Crevis is seven to one.
So and look, Arizona didn't get off to a great
start either. But winning it to McHale Center is not
an easy thing. And Duke went in there to Tucson
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and one.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
So you think Arizona's in little trouble.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Look, here's the beauty of this tournament. You only got
to win by one.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Pressure is all on Duke.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
And it's not a game. It's not a best of
five or best of seven. So they only got to
win by one. So yeah, can they win?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Sure? Especially I would say exactly what you said.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
If Caleb Love has he has to make shots, he
doesn't make shots, they're not going to win.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
When's the first time you saw Cooper flag?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (17:56):
My assistant Darren Saveno and I in Orlando. He said,
we got to walk over this court way in the
back in au.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
In the summer. So who were we doing? What year?
Four years?
Speaker 9 (18:07):
You know he was gonna be now he skipped a
year of high school, so he was gonna he was
had just finished his freshman.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Year in high school.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
Yes, he and I said, that's where we're going to
is this there's a freshman from Maine that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And you know, so you know where U c l a.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
We got to show your face walfrim a scholarship And
I'm like the guys in Maine. He's he's got gonna
come to you. He goes, it's work, come on, we'll
walk over here. And I was a hope, you gotta
be kidding. I mean it was obvious.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Really.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
All he defends he's athletic, he blocked shots. There's nothing
he shoots. He thinks and he's a fierce competitor.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
He's got a little edge to him.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, Jimmy Jackson and I, uh,
we're going on one of your shows here about about
I said, you know, he's trying to compare him to
Keith van Horn, and he's better than Keith. Yeah, and
that's all I respect the Keith.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
But what I didn't get to say, we didn't have
enough time. What if Cooper Flag could play three years at.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
College thirty six a game is last.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Year and he was coming into the NBA, then then
people would be saying, is this guy Larry Bird. That's
a great take, and that's the you know very you
know how good you have to be? Like like, look,
none of those guys were ready. I mean, whomen Yama
wasn't ready to make a team. No, you can't go
make a team win when you're eighteen nineteen years old.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Can't get into the hotel bar.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
No you're not. JT.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
Daniels, who started fifty five games in college.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, of course Daniels.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Ja Jayden did that, went to the Commanders.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Yeah, he started fifty five games, which it would be
the equivalent of Cooper Flag playing what one hundred and
something college game? Right, give him a hundred and some
college games, then let him go to the NBA. But
those days, you know, then it's Magic Johnson, It's you know,
it's Larry Bird, it's whatever.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I mean, he's that good guys now.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So I said this when the USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington
merged with the Big Ten. I said, it's not going
to matter to football. They've got five road games. I said,
it's going to hurt volleyball basketball. I said, those guys
are toast because they're playing on Tuesdays and they got classes.
I'm like, yeah, so you had to do the travel,
ye midweek travel. You also had Big Ten basketball. I
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watched I had Izoan. I said, you can't shoot a
lick from three, but you score eighty. I don't know how,
but you get there. So let's talk first about Michigan State,
then the pivot into the Big Ten. When you listen,
Saint John's was trying to win a title without shooters.
Can Michigan State get to the Final four?
Speaker 9 (20:41):
They can, but they're going to have to they shoot
it a little bit better. But they have stretches where
they're awful, like the first half against New Mexico. The
difference is I think they're deeper than SAT. Yeah, they
got yes, yes, And their defense when they're their defense
is the key because they run off their defense.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They get points.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Well they didn't against UCLA, but they do. They got
to sixty one. But so again that's all who you
play now, you know, like like we win our first
round game by twenty five and they said, way, you
didn't make shots against Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
No, no, no, no, no, we didn't. The problem was Tennessee.
You know, good, yeah what not?
Speaker 9 (21:22):
I mean, yeah, we have a best night, but just
because of them. So the matchups are the key in
this tournament. Now for Michigan State, they have to play.
They have to beat you on the backboard and shut
you down and get out on the break. If they
don't do that, and they have to execute because they
don't have a guy that can just give the ball to,
that can just get you baskets. They don't have an
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unguardable player. Their best offensive player is a freshman Chase Richardson,
who's done a great good player, he's not, but he's
to your point, I mean he's a freshman. And Cooper
Flag's got tyree S procteror now making every shot in
this third year, and you know he's got Cane was
another top ten pick.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So Michigan State didn't have.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
That guy, but uh they got they got that guy
on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Now he's pretty good.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So I said, the best game I saw in the
tournament was Yukon Florida and Florida super physical, and so
is Yukon. Yeah, And I said, sometimes when you beat
a team, they're actually the perfect team for your next game.
And I think Maryland's in trouble against Florida because I
think you called that's the first time in three months
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somebody went into Florida and pushed them around. And I
was like, oh, they're going to benefit from Yukon. I
think Florida is really really good.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
I said it.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
I did the pregame show with your guys here for
Duke Illinois, and I said, I thought Florida was the
best team back then.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Very few they played four centers.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
They just beat you to death. Now somehow we were
on we were on the plane, so you know, it's
not like we had with the end saved buying the plane.
It's not like we were watching the Yukon floor Florida again.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
It is all I could do to get a bag
of pretzels.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But by the way, Fubo is excellent if you want
to use a if you BEOTV, it's excellent.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
You got to have internet though, so but anyway, anyway,
you know, I mean, look, we can't even get a
seat reclines, but we're so when you're talking about Yukon.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I saw the rebounding. They rebounded with them.
Speaker 9 (23:24):
So my concern for Maryland and Kevin Willard is one
of my best friends in the world.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Can queen and.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Rest out of foul trouble. That's a problem good Los
is they don't have any backups.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, that was Saint John's issue. Saint John's was a
great second half team because that's the only time they
could play.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
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Well, they ran into a team longer and more athletic
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We do it on our final live segment of the
week tomorrow. It's the best of Heard show. So we're
watching college basketball. Be all watching it on a flight tonight.
You'll be watching it all weekend. We call it Tomorrows Headlines. Today.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Watch the headline for BAMA number two.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Seed against six seed by you who can shoot a
little tonight.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
I'm curious if mc cronin thinks that this would have
been like one of the highest scoring games in NCAA history.
The total is enormous because nobody plays defense. The headline
will be the book of more Money BYU upset worth
its weight in goal. I'm on BYU money line with
the points, I'm just not buying Alabama. I know they
played the rigorous SEC schedule, but I haven't seen any
(25:40):
defense played by this team at all. They have not
looked that impressive in the tournament so far. I know
they got the two wins, but BYU man, they got
the freshman point guard who's six 's nine starting to
play like the lottery pick. Everybody thought he would be
they could shoot the three as well as Alabama. This
will be a track meet, could be first to ninety wins.
And I think this is my biggest upset of the
Sweet sixteen, taken down Bama.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, I think Maryland loved their last second when I
think they're in trouble. Tomorrow's headlines today, Number one seeded
Gators against a little surprising four seed Maryland Terrapins. What
say you?
Speaker 8 (26:15):
How about that sweat from Florida against Yukon down late
Greatalter Clayton, by the way, unrated coming out of high school.
You know, he started out low major and then worked
his way up. He's a superstar. The headline for Florida
Maryland will be get her done. Florida keeps the Terrapin
up the competition. I have Florida winning this, I think
kind of handily. Maryland's calling itself the Crab five, you know,
(26:38):
picking off the fab five. Yeah, because Maryland crabs. I'm
sure you know this. They have no bench whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Colin.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
They cannot weather any foul trouble. Florida meanwhile, had foul
trouble against Yukon. They got four guys six or nine
or bigger who they can throw at the superstar Derek Queen,
the young kid who hit the game winner for Maryland.
I just think the depth of Florida wins out guard
play should be a push. But I like Florida here
to win perhaps comfortable.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Okay, listen, I'll probably get baked on this tomorrow's headline today.
My underdog in the tournament, number four, Arizona. I love
their veteran point guard that got some size against the Dukies,
who have the best player easily, probably easily in the
sport right now.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Duke, Yeah, Duke is a heavy favorite. It looks like
it could touch ten money. Coming in game day on
the Blue Devils, the headline will be six foot seven
foot eight foot dunk Duke, just one. They don't want
to go home. I gotta work on my singing, clearly,
but I listen. I like Duke tonight. Obviously we know
I'm loaded up. I don't need to tell you again.
(27:40):
This team is just so stacked.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Defensively they are an absolute force. Colin, you can't score
inside against these guys.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Now.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
Arizona has no interior play anyway. They need to rely
on Caleb Love hitting like six or seven threes, which
he did at UNC against McK cronin's UCLA Bruins a
few years ago. The guy's a good score. Arizona just
doesn't have much. I had Billis on my podcast this
week and he was talking about he announced the earlier
meeting Duke Arizona and everybody was nervous for Duke with
three freshmen in the starting lineup, it didn't really matter.
(28:08):
Cooper Flagg took over unguardable in like his fourth college game,
Duke pulls away wins by double digits. I think they
win tonight handily.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, I've got the Tennessee volunteers getting to the Natty
against Auburn. Tomorrow's headlines today falls Kentucky and SEC showdout.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
This might be the best game of the round. Now
you have Tennessee going to the championship.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I have them losing to Auburn by six in the Natty.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
So for some background, Kentucky beat Tennessee twice this year,
and I know people are saying it's.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Tough to beat the team.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Tennessee is a good watch.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
Though, Tennessee's tough. As mc croner knows the headline, well, Hey, hi, Jack, Daniels.
Tennessee whists away Kentucky. I like Tennessee here. It's interesting
in the two meetings against Kentucky, they could not shoot threes.
Kentucky was like, have all the threes you won. They
shot forty three threes in a game. They just couldn't
make any of them. It was really bad. I think
(29:00):
they were three for eighteen in the second meeting. I
think Rick Barnes, who we know has had a checkered
history in March. I don't want to blast the guy,
but he has had many, many disappointing losses, and they
were They've been upset a lot. I think they get
it together and pull through against Kentucky. They don't need
to shoot the threes. They do have Lanier and Ziggler
great scores in the background.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
There's gonna be a lot of athletes on the floor
the teams. Yeah, it's athletes everywhere.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
This will be a last possession wins. Kentucky can be sporadic.
Theyor hit and miss. They were really really good in
the last round. I think Tennessee wins a really really
good game here.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I like I think I had Tennessee. I may have
had them in the Final four. Last year, when you
turn Tennessee on in the regular season, they just jump
off the television. They had Dalton Connect. You're like, man,
these guys are athletic, they get up, they play with pace.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Close games.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Yeah, Dalton Connect against Zach Edie. Remember that last year
Connect had like thirty nine. I mean, he's a bucket.
Should be a good one tonight.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, lastly Houston and Purdue. Now Hugheston
is gonna lock you up defensively. Perdue's known more as
an offensive program.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Indeed, Now the key here is this is being played
in a football stadium in Indianapolis and rg where the
Colts play. However, that's close to Purdue, like a ninety
minute drive. I would assume, you know, bus loads of
people coming from Purdue. They'll have a home court advantage.
The headline, well me, perdude, where's my car? Boiler Makers
go up in smoke. I will ride with Houston. Houston's
(30:27):
really really good man.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Kelvin Sampson. The last few years is that some awesome teams.
They keep getting unlucky. Shed got hurt last year against
Duke yep. That was a killer for me. I had
Houston going all the way. I just think their defense
overwhelms Perdue a bit. And Purdue took down High Point
and McNee State. Those are low maks.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And McNee State off an upset winning the super Bowl
base That was my favorite bet of the tournament. I
couldn't get it up on DraftKings. I tried to get
it up in the morning. Was Purdue over McNee State.
Anytime a team upset somebody, they're so high for two days.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
The next game they're not ready to play.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
And Produce smacked him, but again it was like you're
beating McNee State, They're not very Houston's defense is something
Purdue hasn't seen. I just think they swallow the mirror,
and I think Purdue's in trouble. I'll give me Houston
forget to get the w.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
We had a good college basketball show that you know, well, Brian,
we should do that. We should we should put Mick cronin,
make sure we got the Cooper flag rant and maybe
even tomorrow's headlines. Today, let's do like a special addition
for those that didn't turn in on our Thursday podcast,
do Heavy College Basketball Today.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
You know I'm impacting you here because I know you
have not I know you know the tournament obviously and
you LV, but like I've been pushing NCAA on you
for years now and you're like a little reluctant. This
is the year to go all in Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
The last two years I have been all in on
college at basketball last year, that's right. Yeah, yeah, So
I'm not I'm not against anything. You you know what
I am. I'm an opportunist. I look for big brands
to do well because big brands get better ratings, more
people care, and then some of those viewers will tune
into our show. So if I'm anything, I'm a big
(32:06):
brand opportunist. I want the Dodgers and Duke. I want
the big programs to win. More people care, and then
more people have an opinion and watch opinion shows and
listen to talk radio.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
What happened to you like in the Underdog?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, I never liked the underdog.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
There's never been a day in my life I wanted
to be an underdog.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
I consider myself a career underdog. So that's why I'm
proud of it. Or I am hell yeah, yeah. How
many brown guys you think there are on TV talking
about sports. Come on, bro, come on, I'm honestly, I
feel like I'm an underdog. That's why I root for
underdogs and bet underdogs, though not always.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, why are you laughing?
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Speechless?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Sometimes you look at me and you're like, this guy's
such a knucklehead.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Okay, So Mick Cronin was on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I asked him about Cooper Flag in the first it's
from Maine. I mean, if all the states to have
the best high school basketball player in the last five,
y eyes up in Maine.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Like really, I mean you think Florida, Texas, Cali, wherever. Nope,
here's Mick Cronin on Cooper Flag.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
I do said, that's where we're going is there's a
freshman from Maine that's unbelievable. And you know, so you
know where UCLA we got to go show your face.
Wal from a scholarship and I'm like, the guys in Maine,
he got goin to come to you.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He goes, it's work, come on, we'll walk over here.
And I was a hope, you gotta be kidding me.
I mean it was obvious.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
He defends, he's athletic, he blocks shots, there's enough he shoots.
He thinks, and he's a fierce competitor. What if Cooper
Flag could play three years at.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
College thirty six a game is last.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Year and he was coming into the NBA, then then
people would be saying, as this guy, Larry Bird.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yeah, he's really a special player.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Probably has to handle the ball a little bit better
at the pro level because the game is so fast,
like the NFL compared to college. It's just a faster game.
Got to make quicker decisions. But he's just a really
fun player to watch. And again he's started the year Duke.
He was seventeen years old, so if you go back,
you know, years and years ago, he would have been
twenty two. And I mean if he stayed for even
one more year in college, his numbers all go up
(34:10):
thirty percent. He's a really, really great finisher and a
special player. All right, Tomorrow's best of the Herd. Good
stuff today, Rachel Nichols was money Mick cronin Jay one
of my favorite shows in a long time. Really good job, everybody,
be safe, have fun, watch the Attorney.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh March Madness resumes tonight. Duke in Arizona, My bracket
may implode. All fired up for it, Live in Los
Angeles at The Herd. Wherever you may be listening. However
you may be listening, Thanks for making us part of
your day. I watched some NBA hoops last night. You know,
(00:47):
it's getting they always call it in baseball the dog
days of summer, and some of these teams that are good,
like Cleveland, they're like, Okay, let's give that guy the
night off, let's get reduced the minutes. Lakers are not
in that situation because they're they could go up in
the seeding or down if they don't get their act together.
But it was very interesting last night. So Lebron had
(01:08):
his worst half of NBA basketball in the first half
on the road at Indiana. He didn't do anything. It
was I watched the first half, I'm like, this is awful.
But uh, and a lot of people think the NBA
should cut it. Scheduled through about sixty five games. Last
night was Laker game number seventy two, and they want
the playoffs to start. These are the dog days. It's
like senioritis in high school. We got accepted to college.
(01:31):
Can we just wrap her up? I don't want to
go to the Spanish class anymore. Geometry, I'm done. I
don't need the credits. You know what it is. We
all did that right. And so that's where the Lakers are.
But they're in a precarious situation because they're the four seed.
They could move up to the two. They're they're not
getting past Oka see or they could fall down to
a play in game. And their schedule's brutal. They play
(01:53):
the thunder twice, a young team that's deep and plays hard.
They play their Rockets twice, a young team that's deep
that could beat him twice. They play the Warriors, they
go to the Grizzlies, by the way. They play the
Mavericks Chicago at home, Chicago's had some weird games. They
beat the Lakers in LA, so they got to be
very careful. They cannot mail it in here. And here's
(02:13):
the thing to remember about this Laker team as we
move into the dog days. So you know, Luca and Lebron,
these guys can score and do what they want to do.
But this team, Luca has only played nineteen games with
the Lakers, and he's only played twelve when it's been Luca, Lebron,
and Austin all available. So now they're finally healthy, and
(02:33):
it didn't take until the fourth quarter last night when
they really really played well. But teams like the Calves,
the Celtics and the Nuggets, they have roster rhythm. They
can rest guys now now Tatum's really hurt, but Boston
can rest guys and still win by thirty. Porzingis plays
well on the road, they win by thirty. It's a
whole different ball. That's not the Lakers. Historically, teams that
(02:57):
make a big sweeping trade at the deadline, like getting Luca,
they don't hold trophies. That's not the way it generally works.
And so Lakers, remember they just lost seven to ten.
Why Lebron was gone, and he came back and he
wasn't ready to play. So they need Lebron to be healthy.
They need Lebron to be engaged. And these are the
senior witis days of high school in the NBA for
(03:19):
legendary players, even now Steph. Now Steph's gonna take some
time off. Steve Kerr is like he's tired. So you
see it in baseball a lot, you're seeing it in
the NBA. They came back to win. Here's the game
winner by Lebron and the King after.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Lebron's got it with Paul Quick three. Look kind ted
or not Lebron at the buzzer, They will look at
it talking about winning it at the.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Buzzer, look at this thing? Who my good hell, big
Jack with the winner.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
I really couldn't really have it too much emotion because
I was trying to see if I got the ball
off in time. To be honest, you know, it's always
tricky when they you know, you kind of touch the ball,
you kind of see the rail light around the backboard,
and you don't quite know if you got it.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I thought I had it on time, but you never know.
After they showed to replay on it. It was definitely
gratifying and know especially where we were, you know, the
way we've been playing, and to come to know how
they've been playing, you know, and to come here and
get a good win in a very hostile environment. That's
a big time for a ball club.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah. So the young teams like Indiana and OKC are
playing their butt off. The teams that have some aide
like Boston and the Warriors and the Lakers, and now
Cleveland now has got guys who have been around. Denver's
got guys that have been around. These are dog days.
You're trying to get everybody rest and reduced minutes. But
the Lakers got to be careful. Thunder twice, Rockets twice, Warriors, Mavericks.
(04:50):
Tricky game in Chicago. So tonight the tournament resumes Arizona. Duke,
I tried to get really smart. I had a great
first weekend. I have fifteen of the sixteen teams left.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I got him. So my best bracket ever.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's probably gonna go up and smoke tonight because I
got real clever. And I don't think Duke, they'll They've
got all these great freshmen. Freshmen don't win the tournament.
So I think Arizona's gonna beat him tonight. Do I
really think that?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I did, I did two weeks ago. I'm not sure
if I do now. But here's what's interesting. Since Coach
K took over Duke and John Shire, they've had ninety
guys in the NBA. I think Cooper Flag is going
to be their best NBA player ever. So Grant Hill
is the best Dukey ever. His first six years five
times all NBA seconds. Jason Tatum excellent player, Kyrie Irving
(05:40):
to me only played eight games at Duke would be third.
I think Cooper Flag. And by the way, the NBA
right now twenty four Dukies second best of Kentucky. It's
a factory. And think of all the guys that have
come in since Coach K started. Remember he came from
like Army to Duke, had some turbulent early years. They
almost got rid of him, stayed, built an empire. Than
(06:01):
John Shire's been a great, great candidate and a choice.
And I think now Grant Hill is the best Dukie ever.
And his injuries shortened his career, but he was an
unbelievable player. But he entered the league at twenty two
Cooper Flagg is entering the league at eighteen. He was
seventeen when the season started, So I think he's going
(06:24):
to be much better early than Jason Tatum, and I
think he'll be better late than Grant Hill. He won't
be as good as Grant was first year in the NBA.
Grant was an All Star. But I do think Cooper
flag when you watch him tonight, IQ shooting, passing, He's
an excellent defender. He's got to become a better ball
handler in the pros, no question, But everybody's game needs work.
(06:46):
The kid is just fantastic. He is a finisher. He's
got more of a chip on his shoulder than Jason Tatum.
In fact, Jason Tatum's dad, as Rick Buker, told his
story the other this week, Jason Tatum's dad acknowledges that
he's got everything, the chip, the EQ, He's tough, a finisher,
can shoot scores at all three levels. Just got to
(07:07):
handle the ball better. But he was seventeen not long ago,
and he'll enter the NBA at eighteen. But here's the
classic NBA dilemma. So years ago when Patrick Ewing went
to the Knicks, and you know how fans are. We
weren't even in a conspiracy theory era, but it was
like the frozen envelope theory because you know, gosh, what
do you know? A good player went to a New
(07:28):
York team. It should be noted that the Orlando Magic
won the lottery twice. Nobody wants to bring that up
or Cleveland's won it, but yes, at one point the
Nicks with Ewing won it.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
So here's what's funny.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
If you look at the NBA lottery yards, there.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Are three landing spots.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Either perfect perfect would be maybe Chicago or Philadelphia, or hey,
San Antonio with Wimby k would be Utah, great GM,
great coach, a lot of draft picks, they got some
players they're gonna be They're gonna be okay. See if
(08:07):
they land Cooper Flag, they're gonna be oka. See, and
Utah is a great NBA market. And then there's just
god awful Washington, Charlotte, Toronto's Aacramento. And so if Cooper Flag,
the odds are right now it's mostly awful teams he's
gonna go to. And this has always been the NBA's dilemma.
(08:29):
If he ended up going to Chicago, it's rigged. I'll
say it again. The Magic won the lottery twice, the
Knicks won at once. But he is an all time
player and here's his coach. As he enters the game
tonight against Arizona.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Cooper is about to move on with something incredibly special.
The next step he's gonna go after this.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Uh, But.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Happiness doesn't necessarily equate to, you know, just becoming a
pro or just making money. And although they're making money
either way now, but I think it's important for guys
to each each guy's their own individual So I think,
depending on the situation, guys should make the decisions for themselves.
But Cooper's thing is different.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Now.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Cooper's thing is that's said, and that's going to happen
and as it should.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Now, So if you're twenty years old or in your
early thirties and watching this show, first of all, thank you.
Second of all, what's happening with Cooper flag leaving a
big brand, going to the pros and being good immediately.
That's why everybody used to love the NBA, because that's
the way it always was. Twenty five years ago, Tim
Duncan would go to school, be an All American and
(09:39):
he would come back two more years, and Ewing would
at Georgetown would be dominant as a freshman. He'd come
back two or three more years. Chris Paul Duncan, Grant Hills.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
They didn't leave after a year.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So you would watch them for years and years and years,
and you'd build up this fascination and visceral connect with
all these players. Then they'd go to the NBA and
they were very good.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
Year one.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
We are starving for it and we're getting Cooper Flag
and it's so exciting because we don't get this anymore.
Great player at a big brand can walk in and
be a nineteen point a game guy.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
MJ.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
People forget this.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
MJ hits the shot at North Carolina right, Oh my god.
They made the movie Air. He came back two more
seasons after it and didn't win a college title. It's
as if they evaporated Michael Jordan, Dean Smith. He was
so great. He had James Worthy. Dean Smith's like, now,
let the freshman shoot the game winner. He came back
(10:45):
two more seasons. Everybody did. The Worthies, the Ewings, the MJ's,
the Duncans, they all came back and back, and I've said,
if you want to know about the NBA's popularity, you
know people are gonna go, oh, it's the politics. It's
the fact that we don't know any of these guys
until they're twenty eight years old. We have no connection.
That's why Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese was such a
(11:08):
TV ratings home run. They'd formed a rivalry in college.
I'm watching the HBO Simmons series on the Celtics, Magic
and Bird at a rivalry in college, and it just
pivoted to the NBA. So the fact that what we're
getting with Cooper Flag is what we used to get
a surplus of. It was a conveyor belt great players, mature,
(11:30):
ready to crush, maybe make second team All NBA right
out of college. So that's why this is so exciting
for me. It's a little old school in the NBA.
And if you just and I said this, it's one
of my only complaints about Adam Silver, put your arms
around college basketball.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Put your nobody's watching the G League.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
If Cooper Flag dropped thirty eight tonight, I'd actually watch
him if he went to Charlotte, you know, like that's
what the NBA used to be. The whole politics thing.
Maybe that's five percent. It's the fact that guys come
into the league. Can you name the top five guys
drafted last year in the NBA? Nobody can. I'm not
sure GM's in the NBA can. That's the problem is
(12:15):
that football and now women's basketball is doing this. They
provide us with stories, identifiable stars and rivalries, and then
you just microwave them at the pro level and they're
ready to go. I mean, Reggie Bush had a huge following.
Tim Tebow had a huge following in college. I mean,
(12:36):
if Zion could have controlled his weight, if John Morant
was more mature, maybe you could have had that. It
wasn't they weren't. It looks like Cooper Flag could be
all right, j Mac, we've got I got a little
tip last night.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
You know, we worked the phones. I called you last
night on something you weren't available.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Oh shoot, I'm sorry, I remember. See, yeah, I had
something going on. Wait did you get added to a
group text chain accidentally? Where did you get this info from?
What's going on?
Speaker 6 (13:04):
I don't get on Drew as CARRISA.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Thompson knows.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
If you put me on one.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I got on an NFL Sunday text chain, and I
immediately eliminated myself, apparently offended the whole building. You removed yourself.
I don't like being on text chains.
Speaker 8 (13:16):
Why you just mute the chain?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
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know is my thoughts cannot be shared with forty seven
people simultaneously. If you can get me one on one
you want to meet a phone call. I don't want
things coming out of my head should not be shared
universe something interesting?
Speaker 8 (13:32):
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Speaker 1 (13:55):
When the transfer portal, They've got to get this thing fixed.
I mean, there's gard rails have improved, but it's still
absurd that basically in the middle of this tournament, here
come the transfer portal questions and here was Mac after
a loss.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
It's twelve forty am and the season just ended. That's it.
You're gonna ask me about next year? Right now?
Speaker 9 (14:19):
My biggest concern is how bad the seats are on
the Allegiant flight, on that terrible plane that we're going
to have to fly home tomorrow. And is there any
chance that Doug got me some hot food because I
don't eat on game day, that I got something outible?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
By the way, I love that. Listen, I am four.
Let's just start with this transfer portal, nil, where are
you today on that?
Speaker 9 (14:50):
Well, you've got to be positive about it. I've always
I learned this when I was young. Somebody told me,
if you complain, you're never going to achieve. So if
you don't like something, okay, then get a new job.
Don't complain about your job. Shut the hell up. Just
go get a new job. So it is what it
(15:10):
is now. I'm all for and I have been guys
getting paid like this. This should have happened.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
A long long time ago, and it's just right now.
Speaker 9 (15:20):
The NCAA is on the run, trying to survive, okay,
trying to get help from the government. So I'm of
the opinion, Look, they're trying to figure all this out
they are, they really are, and everybody's telling right now.
The problem is the timing right now, you know, okay,
like this is our best time of year for you
(15:40):
to this is when you talk about college bass.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
We don't need to be a wait, we should.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
Beak talking about the games right now, right not that
the portal open Monday and thirteen hundred guys are already in.
So they got to you know, they got to adjust
and roll and you know, and fix all that. And
I think there'll be adjustments to it. But it's as
far as you know, paying players. I mean, that's here
to stay and it should have came a long time again.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
So I have fifteen of the sixteen teams.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
That's impressive.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Jmax. Do you hear that?
Speaker 9 (16:11):
That's impressed? How many you got ten? Oh see, because
you went by the old model. Yeah, and you see
the portal model eliminates the mid major. That's right, because
all their players are playing for us.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Right, I'm for it.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
I want to watch UCLA with a stack roster.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
And so is Mark Silverman, you know.
Speaker 9 (16:28):
I mean you look that the networks are all the
network heads, he's your network head.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
They're all for yeah, oh that stuff. All they need Cinderella.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
No, no, no, the executives they want what Duke in Arizona?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So now, but I'm gonna get toasted here because I
tried to outthink the room. I picked Arizona over Duke
for two reasons. Freshmen don't win the title.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
I heard you say that, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And secondly, Caleb Love veteran, they got a seven foot
are playing well you know Ucla, Well can they beat
Duke in how.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
Yeah, Well we played Arizona, yes, and I so they
played Duke early in the year.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's when that center wasn't as good.
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Well they but they had Crevous Arizona did was there
who was their starting center? He got hurt and then
Vassar started playing more. But Crevis is seven to one.
So and look, Arizona didn't get off to a great
start either. But winning it to McHale Center is not
an easy thing. And Duke went in there to Tucson
(17:30):
and one.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
So you think Arizona's in little trouble.
Speaker 9 (17:33):
Look, here's the beauty of this tournament. You only got
to win by one.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Pressure is all on Duke.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
And it's not a game. It's not a best of
five or best of seven. So they only got to
win by one. So yeah, can they win?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Sure? Especially I would say exactly what you said.
Speaker 9 (17:47):
If Caleb Love has he has to make shots, he
doesn't make shots, they're not going to win.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
When's the first time you saw Cooper flag?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Uh?
Speaker 9 (17:56):
My assistant Darren Saveno and I in Orlando. He said,
we got to walk over this court way in the
back in au.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
In the summer. So who were we doing? What year?
Four years?
Speaker 9 (18:07):
You know he was gonna be now he skipped a
year of high school, so he was gonna he was
had just finished his freshman.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Year in high school.
Speaker 9 (18:15):
Yes, he and I said, that's where we're going to
is this there's a freshman from Maine that's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
And you know, so you know where U c l a.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
We got to show your face walfrim a scholarship And
I'm like the guys in Maine. He's he's got gonna
come to you. He goes, it's work, come on, we'll
walk over here. And I was a hope, you gotta
be kidding. I mean it was obvious.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Really.
Speaker 9 (18:36):
All he defends he's athletic, he blocked shots. There's nothing
he shoots. He thinks and he's a fierce competitor.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
He's got a little edge to him.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, Jimmy Jackson and I, uh,
we're going on one of your shows here about about
I said, you know, he's trying to compare him to
Keith van Horn, and he's better than Keith. Yeah, and
that's all I respect the Keith.
Speaker 5 (19:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:02):
But what I didn't get to say, we didn't have
enough time. What if Cooper Flag could play three years at.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
College thirty six a game is last.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Year and he was coming into the NBA, then then
people would be saying, is this guy Larry Bird. That's
a great take, and that's the you know very you
know how good you have to be? Like like, look,
none of those guys were ready. I mean, whomen Yama
wasn't ready to make a team. No, you can't go
make a team win when you're eighteen nineteen years old.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
You just can't do it.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
Can't get into the hotel bar.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
No you're not. JT.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
Daniels, who started fifty five games in college.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, of course Daniels.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Ja Jayden did that, went to the Commanders.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Yeah, he started fifty five games, which it would be
the equivalent of Cooper Flag playing what one hundred and
something college game? Right, give him a hundred and some
college games, then let him go to the NBA. But
those days, you know, then it's Magic Johnson, It's you know,
it's Larry Bird, it's whatever.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I mean, he's that good guys now.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So I said this when the USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington
merged with the Big Ten. I said, it's not going
to matter to football. They've got five road games. I said,
it's going to hurt volleyball basketball. I said, those guys
are toast because they're playing on Tuesdays and they got classes.
I'm like, yeah, so you had to do the travel,
ye midweek travel. You also had Big Ten basketball. I
(20:22):
watched I had Izoan. I said, you can't shoot a
lick from three, but you score eighty. I don't know how,
but you get there. So let's talk first about Michigan State,
then the pivot into the Big Ten. When you listen,
Saint John's was trying to win a title without shooters.
Can Michigan State get to the Final four?
Speaker 9 (20:41):
They can, but they're going to have to they shoot
it a little bit better. But they have stretches where
they're awful, like the first half against New Mexico. The
difference is I think they're deeper than SAT. Yeah, they
got yes, yes, And their defense when they're their defense
is the key because they run off their defense.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They get points.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 9 (21:04):
Well they didn't against UCLA, but they do. They got
to sixty one. But so again that's all who you
play now, you know, like like we win our first
round game by twenty five and they said, way, you
didn't make shots against Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
No, no, no, no, no, we didn't. The problem was Tennessee.
You know, good, yeah what not?
Speaker 9 (21:22):
I mean, yeah, we have a best night, but just
because of them. So the matchups are the key in
this tournament. Now for Michigan State, they have to play.
They have to beat you on the backboard and shut
you down and get out on the break. If they
don't do that, and they have to execute because they
don't have a guy that can just give the ball to,
that can just get you baskets. They don't have an
(21:43):
unguardable player. Their best offensive player is a freshman Chase Richardson,
who's done a great good player, he's not, but he's
to your point, I mean he's a freshman. And Cooper
Flag's got tyree S procteror now making every shot in
this third year, and you know he's got Cane was
another top ten pick.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So Michigan State didn't have.
Speaker 9 (22:03):
That guy, but uh they got they got that guy
on the sideline.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Now he's pretty good.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So I said, the best game I saw in the
tournament was Yukon Florida and Florida super physical, and so
is Yukon. Yeah, And I said, sometimes when you beat
a team, they're actually the perfect team for your next game.
And I think Maryland's in trouble against Florida because I
think you called that's the first time in three months
(22:30):
somebody went into Florida and pushed them around. And I
was like, oh, they're going to benefit from Yukon. I
think Florida is really really good.
Speaker 5 (22:41):
I said it.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
I did the pregame show with your guys here for
Duke Illinois, and I said, I thought Florida was the
best team back then.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Very few they played four centers.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
They just beat you to death. Now somehow we were
on we were on the plane, so you know, it's
not like we had with the end saved buying the plane.
It's not like we were watching the Yukon floor Florida again.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You know.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
It is all I could do to get a bag
of pretzels.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
But by the way, Fubo is excellent if you want
to use a if you BEOTV, it's excellent.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
You got to have internet though, so but anyway, anyway,
you know, I mean, look, we can't even get a
seat reclines, but we're so when you're talking about Yukon.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
I saw the rebounding. They rebounded with them.
Speaker 9 (23:24):
So my concern for Maryland and Kevin Willard is one
of my best friends in the world.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Can queen and.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
Rest out of foul trouble. That's a problem good Los
is they don't have any backups.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, that was Saint John's issue. Saint John's was a
great second half team because that's the only time they
could play.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It like yes, full and they beat you up and
wore you down.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But in the first half they couldn't get anybody in
the foul trouble. They had no depth.
Speaker 9 (23:46):
Well, they ran into a team longer and more athletic
that they hadn't seen in the Big East.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
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Speaker 1 (24:57):
We do it on our final live segment of the
week tomorrow. It's the best of Heard show. So we're
watching college basketball. Be all watching it on a flight tonight.
You'll be watching it all weekend. We call it Tomorrows Headlines. Today.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Watch the headline for BAMA number two.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Seed against six seed by you who can shoot a
little tonight.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
I'm curious if mc cronin thinks that this would have
been like one of the highest scoring games in NCAA history.
The total is enormous because nobody plays defense. The headline
will be the book of more Money BYU upset worth
its weight in goal. I'm on BYU money line with
the points, I'm just not buying Alabama. I know they
played the rigorous SEC schedule, but I haven't seen any
(25:40):
defense played by this team at all. They have not
looked that impressive in the tournament so far. I know
they got the two wins, but BYU man, they got
the freshman point guard who's six 's nine starting to
play like the lottery pick. Everybody thought he would be
they could shoot the three as well as Alabama. This
will be a track meet, could be first to ninety wins.
And I think this is my biggest upset of the
Sweet sixteen, taken down Bama.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Okay, I think Maryland loved their last second when I
think they're in trouble. Tomorrow's headlines today, Number one seeded
Gators against a little surprising four seed Maryland Terrapins. What
say you?
Speaker 8 (26:15):
How about that sweat from Florida against Yukon down late
Greatalter Clayton, by the way, unrated coming out of high school.
You know, he started out low major and then worked
his way up. He's a superstar. The headline for Florida
Maryland will be get her done. Florida keeps the Terrapin
up the competition. I have Florida winning this, I think
kind of handily. Maryland's calling itself the Crab five, you know,
(26:38):
picking off the fab five. Yeah, because Maryland crabs. I'm
sure you know this. They have no bench whatsoever.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Colin.
Speaker 8 (26:43):
They cannot weather any foul trouble. Florida meanwhile, had foul
trouble against Yukon. They got four guys six or nine
or bigger who they can throw at the superstar Derek Queen,
the young kid who hit the game winner for Maryland.
I just think the depth of Florida wins out guard
play should be a push. But I like Florida here
to win perhaps comfortable.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Okay, listen, I'll probably get baked on this tomorrow's headline today.
My underdog in the tournament, number four, Arizona. I love
their veteran point guard that got some size against the Dukies,
who have the best player easily, probably easily in the
sport right now.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Duke, Yeah, Duke is a heavy favorite. It looks like
it could touch ten money. Coming in game day on
the Blue Devils, the headline will be six foot seven
foot eight foot dunk Duke, just one. They don't want
to go home. I gotta work on my singing, clearly,
but I listen. I like Duke tonight. Obviously we know
I'm loaded up. I don't need to tell you again.
(27:40):
This team is just so stacked.
Speaker 9 (27:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Defensively they are an absolute force. Colin, you can't score
inside against these guys.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Now.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
Arizona has no interior play anyway. They need to rely
on Caleb Love hitting like six or seven threes, which
he did at UNC against McK cronin's UCLA Bruins a
few years ago. The guy's a good score. Arizona just
doesn't have much. I had Billis on my podcast this
week and he was talking about he announced the earlier
meeting Duke Arizona and everybody was nervous for Duke with
three freshmen in the starting lineup, it didn't really matter.
(28:08):
Cooper Flagg took over unguardable in like his fourth college game,
Duke pulls away wins by double digits. I think they
win tonight handily.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Okay, I've got the Tennessee volunteers getting to the Natty
against Auburn. Tomorrow's headlines today falls Kentucky and SEC showdout.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
This might be the best game of the round. Now
you have Tennessee going to the championship.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
I have them losing to Auburn by six in the Natty.
Speaker 8 (28:33):
So for some background, Kentucky beat Tennessee twice this year,
and I know people are saying it's.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Tough to beat the team.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Tennessee is a good watch.
Speaker 8 (28:40):
Though, Tennessee's tough. As mc croner knows the headline, well, Hey, hi, Jack, Daniels.
Tennessee whists away Kentucky. I like Tennessee here. It's interesting
in the two meetings against Kentucky, they could not shoot threes.
Kentucky was like, have all the threes you won. They
shot forty three threes in a game. They just couldn't
make any of them. It was really bad. I think
(29:00):
they were three for eighteen in the second meeting. I
think Rick Barnes, who we know has had a checkered
history in March. I don't want to blast the guy,
but he has had many, many disappointing losses, and they
were They've been upset a lot. I think they get
it together and pull through against Kentucky. They don't need
to shoot the threes. They do have Lanier and Ziggler
great scores in the background.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
There's gonna be a lot of athletes on the floor
the teams. Yeah, it's athletes everywhere.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
This will be a last possession wins. Kentucky can be sporadic.
Theyor hit and miss. They were really really good in
the last round. I think Tennessee wins a really really
good game here.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I like I think I had Tennessee. I may have
had them in the Final four. Last year, when you
turn Tennessee on in the regular season, they just jump
off the television. They had Dalton Connect. You're like, man,
these guys are athletic, they get up, they play with pace.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
Close games.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Yeah, Dalton Connect against Zach Edie. Remember that last year
Connect had like thirty nine. I mean, he's a bucket.
Should be a good one tonight.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, lastly Houston and Purdue. Now Hugheston
is gonna lock you up defensively. Perdue's known more as
an offensive program.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Indeed, Now the key here is this is being played
in a football stadium in Indianapolis and rg where the
Colts play. However, that's close to Purdue, like a ninety
minute drive. I would assume, you know, bus loads of
people coming from Purdue. They'll have a home court advantage.
The headline, well me, perdude, where's my car? Boiler Makers
go up in smoke. I will ride with Houston. Houston's
(30:27):
really really good man.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Kelvin Sampson. The last few years is that some awesome teams.
They keep getting unlucky. Shed got hurt last year against
Duke yep. That was a killer for me. I had
Houston going all the way. I just think their defense
overwhelms Perdue a bit. And Purdue took down High Point
and McNee State. Those are low maks.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And McNee State off an upset winning the super Bowl
base That was my favorite bet of the tournament. I
couldn't get it up on DraftKings. I tried to get
it up in the morning. Was Purdue over McNee State.
Anytime a team upset somebody, they're so high for two days.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
The next game they're not ready to play.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
And Produce smacked him, but again it was like you're
beating McNee State, They're not very Houston's defense is something
Purdue hasn't seen. I just think they swallow the mirror,
and I think Purdue's in trouble. I'll give me Houston
forget to get the w.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
We had a good college basketball show that you know, well, Brian,
we should do that. We should we should put Mick cronin,
make sure we got the Cooper flag rant and maybe
even tomorrow's headlines. Today, let's do like a special addition
for those that didn't turn in on our Thursday podcast,
do Heavy College Basketball Today.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
You know I'm impacting you here because I know you
have not I know you know the tournament obviously and
you LV, but like I've been pushing NCAA on you
for years now and you're like a little reluctant. This
is the year to go all in Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
The last two years I have been all in on
college at basketball last year, that's right. Yeah, yeah, So
I'm not I'm not against anything. You you know what
I am. I'm an opportunist. I look for big brands
to do well because big brands get better ratings, more
people care, and then some of those viewers will tune
into our show. So if I'm anything, I'm a big
(32:06):
brand opportunist. I want the Dodgers and Duke. I want
the big programs to win. More people care, and then
more people have an opinion and watch opinion shows and
listen to talk radio.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
What happened to you like in the Underdog?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, I never liked the underdog.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
There's never been a day in my life I wanted
to be an underdog.
Speaker 8 (32:25):
I consider myself a career underdog. So that's why I'm
proud of it. Or I am hell yeah, yeah. How
many brown guys you think there are on TV talking
about sports. Come on, bro, come on, I'm honestly, I
feel like I'm an underdog. That's why I root for
underdogs and bet underdogs, though not always.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, why are you laughing?
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Speechless?
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Sometimes you look at me and you're like, this guy's
such a knucklehead.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Okay, So Mick Cronin was on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I asked him about Cooper Flag in the first it's
from Maine. I mean, if all the states to have
the best high school basketball player in the last five,
y eyes up in Maine.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Like really, I mean you think Florida, Texas, Cali, wherever. Nope,
here's Mick Cronin on Cooper Flag.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
I do said, that's where we're going is there's a
freshman from Maine that's unbelievable. And you know, so you
know where UCLA we got to go show your face.
Wal from a scholarship and I'm like, the guys in Maine,
he got goin to come to you.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He goes, it's work, come on, we'll walk over here.
And I was a hope, you gotta be kidding me.
I mean it was obvious.
Speaker 9 (33:28):
He defends, he's athletic, he blocks shots, there's enough he shoots.
He thinks, and he's a fierce competitor. What if Cooper
Flag could play three years at.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
College thirty six a game is last.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Year and he was coming into the NBA, then then
people would be saying, as this guy, Larry Bird.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yeah, he's really a special player.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Probably has to handle the ball a little bit better
at the pro level because the game is so fast,
like the NFL compared to college. It's just a faster game.
Got to make quicker decisions. But he's just a really
fun player to watch. And again he's started the year Duke.
He was seventeen years old, so if you go back,
you know, years and years ago, he would have been
twenty two. And I mean if he stayed for even
one more year in college, his numbers all go up
(34:10):
thirty percent. He's a really, really great finisher and a
special player. All right, Tomorrow's best of the Herd. Good
stuff today, Rachel Nichols was money Mick cronin Jay one
of my favorite shows in a long time. Really good job, everybody,
be safe, have fun, watch the Attorney.
Speaker 6 (34:26):
We'll see him Monday live in LA. It's the Hurt
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.