April 21, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin tells you where he was Right & where he was Wrong over the weekend, examining the play style of Timberwolves star SG Anthony Edwards, trying to figure out who the Giants could draft in Round One, and more! Plus, draft guru Daniel Jeremiah joins the show!
Where Colin was right and wrong over the weekend
Looking at the play style of Anthony Edwards
Who will the Giants draft in the first round?
Guest: Daniel Jeremiah
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
First hour flies Bye, It's the Herd. Wherever you may be,
however you may be listening.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's NFL Draft week and the NBA playoffs had begun
inn in Earnest.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It was a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Slippers Nuggets was fantastic, Warriors Rockets good, especially at the end.
Keep throwing Orlando the next several years. Not at full
strains right now. Boston's gonna fly through them. Orlando's interesting.
They can't shoot, but I like the players. Mont Carlo's great,
all right. Daniel year Amaia been a scout for three
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NFL teams, is going to be joining us. Somebody I
trust absolutely when it comes to the draft works at
the NFL Network on their draft coverage, and we do
it every Monday at this time. Where Colin was right,
Where Colin was wrong, and here we.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Go where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, we told you last Wednesday that talented young quarterback
Nico Iamaliaba was going to transfer to UCLA, and it
became official yesterday. His family said it's not about the money,
and he didn't have much of a market. I think
he's really, really talented, but I think it was a
big turn off that he bailed on a better football program.
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Now he is a California kid, so he's bouncing back home.
But you know, clearly Tennessee's a much better consistent football program.
So I'm not sure how it plays out, but we
broke the story and we'll take a.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Little credit for it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Where Colin was raw ye, I may have just missed
on the Rockets Warriors series. The Rockets offense was a mess.
They shot under twenty percent from threes, and outside of Shngoon,
I don't know what they are in the half court set.
He's brilliant. I mean, he's got the nicest touch. But
Jalen Green, according to their coaching staff, appears to be
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a liability. Now. I do think Fred VanVleet will play
and shoot better, but I thought their size and athleticism
and the home courted man advantage, and the energy would
play a part, but in every crucial possession down the stretch,
I just felt better every time with the Warriors' offensive possession,
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and the Warriors also did a great job down the
stretch offensive rebounding to secure Game one in Houston, where
Colin was right well, I predicted Aaron Rodgers would be
best served waiting until the draft is over to make
a commitment, and according to last week, he's in no
hurry and is not making a commitment. And I don't
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think it's a bad decision, by the way, asked Kirk Cousins.
He got burned on it. And also the Pittsburgh Steelers,
who apparently haven't checked the calendar in about a decade,
have forgotten the quarterback matters. They're the only team desperate
enough to be really, really interested, because even Aaron Rodgers
admitted that Minnesota's not waiting for him. So you know, listen,
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Aaron's talented, but he's very, very distracted. Doesn't feel like
there's a huge market for him, and I think Pittsburgh's
a bad fit.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But we saw it coming.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Where Colin was raw, It's not that the Timberwolves beat
the Lakers. They pushed him around the floor for two
and a half hours, and I think the Lakers will
bring in more urgency. But Luca had one assists, Austin
Reeves got pushed around. I think Lebron has to be
more engaged. But the Tea Wolves, Baby, were humming from
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the outside. And it's not like they were just shooting well.
They were getting great looks. Forty two open threes. Is
that a playoff record?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We looked that up, but that surprised me. It just
surprised me the lack of urgency and physicality.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
By the Lakers. Colin was right. I've been saying this.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
If you start paying Brock pretty fifty large, that window's closing, baby.
And how about Pooka Nikua apparently believes the same thing
rock perty.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Is he gonna get a five? I don't think so.
Do you think he's gonna go with a four?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He's gonna start with a four?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
High four?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Mm?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
No, I think mid for forty five? I think so.
I mean, I think if he does that, that'd be
smart for him and them.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, I mean I think he's he seems like a
smart guy.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I dont think he like they're still they have a
chance to still be in their window. And I think
if if he goes for a five, that the window closes.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, did we send them our transcripts?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love it where Colin was Wraw. Russell Westbrook can
drive me crazy. But I thought he and Jokic won
Game one, a very tight game, and you got the
full Russell Westbrook experience. I mean, you got his energy,
you got his rebounding, you got his toughness, you've got
his defense. I thought, he you know, I mean, he's
not a flawless player. This three were showing was huge,
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but you got to be fair in this business.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't always love him as a player.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I thought he was so valuable and you can say
whatever you want with Westbrook, but it's six'. Four that
dude is a great rebounder and he has no problem
battling six to nine guys in the. Paint he loves.
It good for.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Him Where colin was. Raw i'm not a huge fan
Of Jackson.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
DART i think when you put pressure on him and
becomes a better version Of Zach. WILSON i just he
even went to the same high. School but you, know
PEOPLE i like in THE nfl WHO i, trust rams like.
Him reportedly Day ball likes. Him So i've talked to
somebody over the weekend that likes him a, lot an
executive in THE nfl WHO i have respect. For SO.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I watched him a lot in.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
COLLEGE i Watched Ole miss AND sec football And Lane
kevin And Jackson dart a. LOT i never looked at
it and, thought, wow it was a first round. Talent
NOW i think he's better than A Will. LEVIS i
think he's better Than Zach. Wilson he's obviously a talented.
Guy there's a you, know whatever it. Is you know
he can make big. Throws but he beat up on
a lot of bad teams in. College was one and
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three AGAINST bam And, georgia and that one win he
had thirteen completed.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Passes but the.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
League we'll. See we'll see On. Thursday but the league
apparently disagrees with. Me Colin Wright colin wrong on A,
Monday and with that we bring in Live Daniel JEREMIAH Nfl.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Network you can watch him.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Through all seven rounds In Green, bay, which by the,
way is going to be an. EXPERIENCE i love THE
nfl moving around the. Draft there's nothing Like lambeau and
The Green Bay packer. Fans live coverage Starts thursday on
THE Nfl network at Eight. EASTERN i will be absolutely grude.
Glued so let's start With Jackson. Dart i'm a Bigger
shador fan than. MOST i think Cam ward's going to
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be a big hit In. Tennessee SO i like two.
Quarterbacks Jackson dart's the ONE i don't. Get i've, said
same high school As, zach same kind of. SIZE i
think he's better Than. ZACH i think he's a stronger.
Kid tell me WHAT i, missing because EVERYBODY i talk
to likes. HIM i don't quite see.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
It, Yeah, colin for, me he ended up being my
thirty fourth, PLAYER i think like thirty four thirty, six
like somewhere in that. Ring SO i had him in
that second round grouping and the WAY i would sell
you on, him you, know in terms of the value.
There it reminds me a lot Of, hurts you, know
just When hurts was coming, out and that you follow
the trend line With, Hurts hurts got better every year he.
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Was he was a, strong sturdy. Guy he's a gym
rat who's obsessed with being. Good all the intangible stuffs
off the. Charts the toughness is, there the intelligence is.
There so to, ME i think you're just buying. That
that trend line just keeps on. Going AND i look,
at you, know the giants of the team THAT i
think make the most. SENSE i think he's a little
more physical Than. Shadure from that, CONVERSATION i Have shador
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rated higher than. Him but for the giants, SPECIFICALLY i
could See brian daballfilm like he's a little bit better
fit for that environment that they're in there in terms
of the, weather you're going to be playing in the,
wind all those.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Things, well having worked for multiple organizations in your career
and now doing The chargers, radio you, KNOW i was
talking to an offensive coordinator this weekend WHO i had dinnernew,
with AND i was talking about the coach and the decisions,
made and you, know you can have owners. Impact The
raiders are fascinating to me because AND i wonder if
teams think about. This so If Gino smith And Sam
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darnold were a little, similar if they're throwing with decent
protection and a run game on third and, two watch
out If gino Or sam are throwing without a run
game and THE o line.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Protection is not. Great they can turn.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Fast AND i look At gino And i'm, like you,
know If GINO i like The RAIDERS o line left,
tackle center From, oregon right tackle From. MARYLAND i look
at The raiders And i'm, LIKE i can See Pete carroll, Saying,
Hey gino with a run game is a pretty PRETTY
B b plus. Quarterback do you think coach just think
(09:00):
that way based On maybe it's a bit of a,
reach but he makes our quarterback better and in this,
league that's about seventy five percent of.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
It, YEAH i mean you're talking About, genty you. Know,
yeah to, me, Yeah, GENTY i am as the third
best player in the. Draft so from from a talent,
standpoint absolutely it makes.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Sense and usually when you have teams picking up.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
There the PUSHBACK i have on running backs, is, man
if your team's not ready for, him don't take, him you,
know because you only have six or seven year run
with these, Backs so don't waste them on a team
that doesn't have a good offensive line or is a
bad situation for, him because then you've wasted two or
three of those you, know six or seven. Years like
you need to have a team that's ready for, him
and even though they're picking up there in the top,
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TEN i can make a strong case The raiders have
some good pieces on that offensive, line you, know continue
to add to.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
It another interior player would be.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Nice The bears have have done their best to retool
and revamp their. GROUP i think both those teams in
the top, ten they would make sense to me For
ash and as teams that are ready to maximize, him you,
know right when he gets there and you're looking at
someone to help an older quarterback In vegas or somebody
to come in there and try and you, know look
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at the opportunity to Help caleb and get him up and.
Running so both those make a lot of sense to.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Me, okay so what is gent better at Than Omario
hampton From? Carolina because he jumps through THE tv as.
Well but how does gent separate separate from another back,
who by the, way is a home run, Threat he's
got major.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
BURST i watched them a lot Of. Carolina why is
genty better Than?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Hampton And hampton's like my thirteenth, Player so to, me
you're talking about two guys who are top fifteen talents
in this draft. Class, Now hampton you get a bigger,
body you get you, know the. Durability both these guys
are incredibly. Durable, hampton you give him the plus side
in terms of you, know polish in the past, game
so that would definitely go to him size and then
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the value.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
There but just as a.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Pure, runner instincts like contact, balance it's. Shiftiness Man genti's
such a gifted runner of the, football AND i think
that he can create space when it's not. THERE i
Think hampton's a little more of a crease. Runner just
give him a little bit of space and he can
he can really. Go but, MAN i See genty that
game that everybody kind of wanted to hit him on and.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Go how will you do Against Penn?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
State And i'm, like, well the five yard runs he
had in The Penn state game whereas impressive as any
five yard runs you're going to. See he's fighting fighting
off five guys to get past the line of scrimmage
and still find a way to make something positive.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Happen SO i think both those guys are great.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Players, OKAY i got to ask you it's you had said.
Earlier it's not a star, draft it's a starter. Draft
there are PLAYERS i want to give you a, Player
Colston loveland For. Michigan so a lot of the picks
like twenty one or twenty two down are offensive coaches
and clever, Guys kevin, O'Connell Sean, Payton sean, McVay Andy, Reid.
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Harbaugh Colston loveland to, me is. Interesting he looks like a,
receiver you, know but he's like two forty, five but
he carries his weight because he's so, Tall AND i
can see an offensive coach, going. YEAH i MEAN i
could See harball, going you know. WHAT i had him At.
MICHIGAN i CAN i can use. Him we need a
receiver and a tight. END i can use him as.
(12:16):
Both what do you make of? HIM i see all
these smart offensive coaches at the end of the first,
round And i'm, LIKE i could see those guys, going
he is A day one.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Starter what do you make of?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Him, well as you're, LOOKING i just want to make
SURE i don't say the wrong number here BECAUSE i
don't want to give you the wrong. Number So Colston
levelin is my seventh overall. Player that tells you what
kind of GRADE i have on. HIM i saw him
play live this, year saw him in, person went down
there for warm, ups and you're, right, like he's impressive
when you just see him, Physically he's an unbelievable. Athlete
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he does things LIKE i have war in one spot above.
HIM i think it's a weird, draft, Right i've got
a running back and two tight ends in my top
seven players in this draft. Class but when you look
at At warren's kind of like the bigger in line.
Physicality but when you're watching loved, one this is someone
who can win at the line of. Scrimmage you can
win at the top of the. ROUTE i, mean you
talk about The, CHARGERS i DON'T i can't imagine that
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he gets within. Distance BUT i will tell you, This,
colin if you're Watching thursday night and he's on the,
BOARD i do not expect The chargers to use all ten.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Minutes let's put that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Way, yeah the give me a player THAT i was
talking to AN nfl executive who just loved A, miikabuka
the receiver For Ohio.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
State he's, like, oh this guy the.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Routes he's, like he is going to play day, one
a total grown, up and he just went on.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And on he.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Goes and it was funny because he's like we don't
need a slot, receiver and he hasn't played enough on the.
Sideline BUT i think in a draft like, THIS i
thought he was overshadowed At Ohio. State so what kind
OF nfl player is he going to? Be what is
his comp because EVERYBODY i talked to loves.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Him, WELL i don't think you have to, go you,
know far. BACK i think you go to the same.
School and look What Jackson smith And jigbab you, know
turned into last year when they started to really get
him up and running.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Up there In.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Seattle, smart, tough, STRONG i love the less need is
SOMEONE i like talking to about. Receivers and we had
this conversation a couple of years, ago and he talked
about the importance of just being grounded through the. Catch
like guys who trust their hands they run through the.
Ball they don't they don't jump and catch the ball
in their. Body they don't gather step like they can
haul right through the. Ball and you look at guys
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they've had success with With cup and with With, puka
even go back to Like Robert, woods those guys who
had real, strong natural.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Hands to, me At buka does those.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Things and the other thing is you want to, run
you want to do some bunch of, stuff and you
want him to dig out a linebacker and you don't
have to ask him. Twice he has no problem getting
in there and doing. That like that's that's a you,
know it's a nice bonus that he brings to the.
Table and WHEN i tell you that he was impressive
at the, Combine i'm talking, like buddy of mine that
have been doing this for thirty, years, say this is
one of the top five Interviews i've ever. Had that's
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how impressive this kid.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Is. Wow THE i kind of feel like the draft
starts with The New York giants because that's what it
feels like to.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Me what is your gut on what they do at number?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Three, WELL i mean there's to, ME i Think shador
goes three or shouldor goes twenty. One that, LIKE i
don't see the should or team in between those two,
spots and maybe you have somebody come back up for,
him BUT i think that's you, know he's in play
there with The, giants and my gut tells me they'd
rather have the quarterback as the second person to speak
at the press, conference you, know like you get we
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tried out alb Dul. Carter we got our premier, player premier.
Position we feel like there's not much risk, there and
then now we introduce the, quarterback maybe not as much
pressure on him at this point in. Time we believe
in and we don't have to play him right, away
but we kind of you, know to me that that
combination makes a lot of. Sense, now whether that's trading
back up For Jackson dart or that's trading back up For.
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Shador you, know we'll see how that all. Unfolds but
my gut is just feels, like, man you want to
get a sure thing up, there and With hunter we
all assume is going to be gone at. Two then
then now would put Abdul carter right in your.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Mix, Finally.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Nico iamadiava is the quarterback that, played was a high school,
phenom goes To. TENNESSEE i think he's. Talented he didn't
play great in the biggest, games but you, know it's
hard to play great when you're Playing georgia And Ohio
state and the. Life then it's very. Public it feels
Like dad had. Influence he goes TO, ucla which is
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not the same level of program Of. Tennessee does it.
Matter i've heard a lot of people say it's going
to hurt him in THE, nfl And i'm, like, yeah
maybe at quarterback it. Does as somebody that's worked around
THE nfl and is currently employed by AN nfl, team
does it hurt him in THE nfl in the year
if he has a good year AT, ucla would it hurt.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Him i'll just give you a real SIMPLE x nation, Here,
colin what's going to happen fast forward a year from
now or two years from, now whenever he decides to.
Enter the teams that don't need quarterbacks and are picking
towards the bottom of the draft will critique and have
all types of issues with this situation and the decision
that he. Made those that actually need quarterbacks in a
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position to actually take quarterbacks are not going to give
a flying flip about any of this. Stuff, like just
give me the talented kid who you know IS i
can build with and grow. With all these kids have,
TRANSFERRED i don't you know going into the motivations of
why they, left and there'll be arguments made it was the,
offense and some people will say it was the. Money
at the end of the, Day colin just always remember
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talent over.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Everything, YEAH i mean that's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It Daniel jeremiah move To sticks Podcast thursday eightiest or
and that's five o'clock our time here on The West
COAST nfl. Network he and the staff over there do
a great job on the. Draft it's, Great senior as.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Allays my.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Man good to see, buddy all.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Right, yeah he does terrific. Work so again he Likes
Jackson dart too a little. Bit so you know what
it's happened. Before, yep Where i'm. Wrong you know it's.
Infrequent but, YEAH i, mean WELL i Don't i'm not.
ROOTING i hope he.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Works the league is much better with good quarterback, play.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And we haven't had.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
It we have seen a derth of good quarterback play
the past few.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Years there's not that. Many and in this, DRAFT i.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Mean just look At.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Tennessee they thought they had it With Marcus mariota and
then they, didn't and they.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
They Will Levis Ryan.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Tannehill so they've gone the, draft they've gone a guy
in the. League they've taken big swings ON sec. Guys
so like it would be more fun to Watch tennessee
for the next ten. Years if Cam ward's a. PLAYMAKER
i never root, against first of, all any young. Person
but in THE, nfl good question that one o'clock window
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by week nine to ten if it's the bad quarterback,
window because the networks are flexing and they want all
the good games later in the. Afternoon so to make
that red zone one o'clock window good you Want caleb
William we said this last, year The bears are going
to be in that one o'clock, window and by the
middle of the, year you're, like it's not that much
fun to. Watch So tennessee's more of a one o'clock
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window team in THE. Nfl Carolina Bryce young more of
a one o'clock window. Team, yeah but Surging yeah, No Bryce,
YOUNG i thought at the end of last year played
very very. Well so you got a root for quarterback
play if you really love the, sport not just your own.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Team how good is the ten am window on The west? Coast?
Though you don't have to, wait you just you're up
and you got.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
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In The chiefs are coming off a Tough Super bowl
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WAYS gm brettbeat spoke to the team strategy ahead Of thursday's.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Draft take a, Listen we always want to Surround pat with,
playmakers and you, know the more talented white house you
can throw on the field at one time is something
important to. Us and death at running back and look
this kickoff rule. TOO i, mean, ideally you know it
would be advantageous for us to identify a receiver indoor
(22:03):
running back that has explosive playmaking ability on both ends
Of vermijo did a great, job but, again we're always
pushing the envelope to get one percent.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
BETTER i think it's important to mention That Kansas city
had significant injuries last, year whether it Was, Pacheco Rashi,
Rice Hollywood, brown and the offensive line was never really
able to settle. In BUT i think you can expect
someone as shrewd and crafty as A Brett beach to
be aggressive in this draft calling well and as a,
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result gon't get another weapon or two For Pat. Mahomes
one more, Note Andy reid loves his running. Backs this
is a very deep running back. CLASS i would expect
them to target that as.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, yeah there are two things they really need to,
UPGRADE o line and the running back. Room everything else they're, fine, yeah,
Worthy Rashi, rice, Listen they like everybody else have missed on.
Receivers it's the hardest position in the. League there's more of,
them but there's more drama and ego at wide.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Receiver SO i it's.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
FUNNY i think The chiefs will make the, playoffs BUT
i have The chargers winning the division AND i think
a lot of this it's not a knock on, them
it's just the reality of they were eleven to zero
in one score game and that's historically. Unprecedented so AND
i also think the division Now Jim harbaugh gets another
Draft harbaugh in year two is when he pops you
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know You're.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Michigan Sean payton the other draft two.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yep and by the, Way Pete, Carroll Chip kelly And
Gino smith major upgrade for The. Raiders SO i think
it's now the best division in. Football and so just
based on that and not going eleven to zero one score,
GAMES i think The chiefs are a playoff, team BUT
i think they pull.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Back in terms of regular season.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
DOMINANCE i think also address offensive line to your point
another weapon or, two and again with the running, backs
and you read And Brett beetz always find running back.
Value look At Isaiah. Pacheco they're going to find it
again in this, draft especially given how deep it. Is
Kirk cousins is still a part of The falcons for,
now but the, Expectation, colin is that he'll be elsewhere
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at some point this. Season reports indicate That atlanta has
engaged in trade talks regarding the veteran, quarterback but has
been asking for too, much wanting teams to pay twenty
million of the forty five million and guarantees left on his. Deal,
colin do you Believe cousins can still be a contributor
in THE?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Nfl where do you like? Him any of? Them?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
YEAH i MEAN i Think, kirk with another off the,
injury with another off, season has got another season in.
HIM i don't think it's a playoff. SEASON i think
he'd be better served probably in THE, nfc the conference
he knows it's a weaker quarterback and a weaker overall.
Conference BUT i don't think there's a huge. MARKET i,
mean you're seeing him And aaron getting. Older they have major,
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surgery And aaron was struggling, Early kirk struggled, late and
there's not a big market for either because they're both
still pretty expensive. Quarterbacks aaron said last, WEEK i played
for ten million. Dollars i'll believe it WHEN i see.
It but that's kind of What, kirk who's made a.
Fortune If kirk wants to, play he's going to take a. Discount,
YEAH i.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Thought it would Be. Cleveland then they Signed Joe. Flacco
it could still Be, Cleveland. Colin it still could be
The browns if they don't take a quarterback in the.
Draft But atlanta is going to have to eat a
significant portion of that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Salary there's just no other way about.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
It and it's a dysfunctional, Environment collin For kirk to
still be. There he's not in the building right. Now
you Got Michael, pennox who you, know is the. FUTURE
i don't like the optics of. It so it's going
to be a fascinating draft for lenn and also fascinating
a few weeks moving forward to THE, nba where The
celtics took a one nothing series lead against The Magic.
Yesterday scary moment. Though in the Fourth Jason tatum drove
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for a dunk and was met By Contavious Caldwell pope
And Wendell Carter junior at the rim before falling hard
on a shooting. Risk Now tatum was in pain and
missed the ensuing free, throws but was able to stay
in the. Game good news THE X rays came back,
Negative tatum, said.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Quote he's all. Right Derek white was. Terrific thirty.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
POINTS i Thought Jalen, brown even though he didn't score a,
lot was. Good how About Peyton. Pritchard you are not
meant to be this deep in TODAY'S.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Nba they're.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Not When Derek white is your fifth best player and
he goes for, thirty, yeah that's the.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Depth and you've really spoken to that all.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Year About, Boston, YEAH i think they're undervalued even as
a championship team because they're not.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Flashy they're just, deep well.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Coached, YEAH i, MEAN i just nobody else in the
league goes eight deep on. Shooters, no so they're just.
Different cleveland's really. GOOD i Mean miami didn't have a. Shot,
NO i Mean cleveland's really really. Good Eric, spolstra especially
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opening games of a. Series you, Know spolstra playing. Game
he's such a good. Coach his hands are. Tied cleveland's
got too many good.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Players Garland, mitchell and then you got tied To erome
coming up bombing three shooting forty seven. Percent mobi didn't
have a huge offensive. Game now it's still really. GOOD
i want to give a little love To Paalo Ban
carol My.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Seattle he is.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
A WELL i, mean first of, all we knew he was. Great,
YES i really like When Jalen suggs is. Healthy they
got to get a. Shooter, yes like they have to
go in the market and go grab a Shooter Ti
jerome Where Max scruce they buy someone? Like but they
that team Gave boston a. Fight that is a good
team with some real offensive. Skill it's just not perimeter. Skill,
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yeah they're very. Young they will be very.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Good and her was only twenty two years old oday high,
School seattle played there a.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Lot love to see. That sticking with THE, nba this
is good.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Stuff fresh off of winning The Wooden award as a
nation's top.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Player Cooper flag has officially declared for THE Nba.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Draft the Former Blue devil and projected first overall pick
average nineteen eight and four as a, freshman obviously Leading
duke to a thirty five and four record final four.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Appearance you talked earlier about The. BULLS i know you
love to see him A.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
CHICAGO i want to see him go to like San, Antonio.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Utah chicago BECAUSE i think those are functional. Organizations i'll
trust him with Any Danny ainge run, TEAM i would trust.
HIM i Think chicago got a kid last, year like
with this one of the seven or eight seven or eight,
pick and he's actually really. Good chicago played their butt
off this year despite limited Talent Josh giddy so AND
i also think San antonio would would do him. Well
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The rockets are already so young now if he went
to The, rockets they would have a.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Shooter, yeah so that would be.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Substantial but there are Teams, Listen it's, LIKE i want
my quarterbacks to go to functional organizations exactly the.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Same And dallas Ad kyrie.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Play that's exciting San antonio here In Fox wimby that could.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Work let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Something If Cooper flag went To, Dallas oh, my that
could be. Fun oh with their center rotation Eighty. Kyrie
another thing again Is. Luca that would be if you,
could if you could pick a team.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
That he goes to that just is. Wild you would Pick.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Dallas that would that would be a wildcar in the.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
List i'd like. That sorry To, chicago that would be
a fun, WATCH i Would jordan with the.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping that
the herd line.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
News you, know it's it's funny when you, like in,
baseball so much about baseball is pitcher and.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Batter so like pitchers are never just mailing it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
In you, know they're they're they got bonuses tied to.
Performance and batters, similarly aren't mailing it. In you're you're
in the batter's. Box hockey and, football you get hurt
if you take place, off you just get. Hurt but
there is something to be, said like sometimes in soccer
or basketball you can give it about eighty percent and
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kind of look the. PART nba has got a problem
on their hands with load. Management BUT i thought this
week and this, weekend what you really Saw boston's veterans
late in the, Game New York knicks veterans late in the,
Game warriors veterans late in the, Game Denver denver's veterans.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Late in the.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
GAME i, mean you you really saw what playoff basketball?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Is is?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
That and it's it's kind of a you problem as
an organization if you don't understand. This The lakers clearly
didn't playoff basketball is just more physical because THE nba is, like,
listen we're not going to ask if you've ever seen
like a six, nine six' TEN retired. Nba player they're
all hobbled with. Their back you're not built to be.
Six eleven human beings are not built to be, six
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eleven and so it beats up in your body in all.
This travel they used to fly commercially back in, the
seventies and so, you know it's you can't ask Guys
like jokic to play eighty two games both ends of
the floor with that body in that weight shack fell.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Apart physically so.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Like when you get TO, the nba the playoffs are a.
Different sport The Intensity clippers denver on the, First, possession yeah, you're,
like oh this is gonna. Be good i'm gonna make.
Some popcorn this is gonna be good for two and a.
Half HOURS so i thought what you really saw over
the weekend was what REALLY the nba is bank on.
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THE veterans i didn't listen to my. Own advice, i'm, Like,
Oh houston houston and the half court set three starters
playing THEIR first. Laf, game look they started panicking in the.
Second half they. Started panicking, they're like what is? Our
OFFENSE so i just thought it was really entertaining. To
watch my guess Is the lakers bounce Back in game
two and even. The Series but minnesota is. Well coached they,
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are physical ant is, you know, ant special and they
got size and. They're pretty they. Play Smart so minnesota,
loves physical. Ugly basketball They're. The ravens, all right let's.
GET ugly a lot of teams, are Pretty like miami
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likes to. Win pretty baltimore, is like, it's cold. It's
ugly it's built. For Us new england had. That, ability yeah,
it's like, all right. It's snowing, Come, on peyton come
on up here in the. Snow floories we're good. With It,
SO minnesota i think likes the games a little, an
artistic a, little UGLY.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And i don't Think the lakers.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Want That no lakers can, be pretty.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
It fluid there are, shoot threes Driving kick minnesota, shoot
threes but.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
They'll bang they.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Are TOUGH and, I Thought, edwards man you said it
improving the shooting every year now was shooting for almost forty percent.
From three that number, for ME when i think about
everything else he does that speaks to the work he's.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Put, in yeah and.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
He is he's got to be one of the two
or three best closers in.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
The league and it's it's very hard like when you're
twenty two and twenty three years old and you are
as Gifted As, aunt edward's think about how gifted. He
is he could do anything he wants in. The court,
you know one of the hardest things to be. Is
PATIENT and i thought he just. Showed patience he didn't.
Rush things that's. Real maturity and now some of this
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Goes to minnesota and how they've. DEVELOPED him a lot
of it just Goes To ant edwards that three four,
years ago nobody in the league would Have taken Ant.
OVER jaw i mean we put the stats. Up earlier
job was the better player and he. Was exciting jaw's
not as good as he was three, years Ago.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And ant is.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Significantly Better And aunt edwards just deserves credit for the
time and the work he has put into. His game
so the downside to bringing in guys TO the nba
at nineteen, years old they're not ready.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
To play He's. Watched houston they're not ready.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
To play but like Look At, jalen green who's got tons, Of,
talent like what is? HIS game i don't know what his? Game,
is offensively what is? His game you can't put him.
At point he's not. A Shooter ann, edwards is and
he was good as. A rookie he is noticeably a
much more. Refined player and that kid Here was lebron
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by the way after.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
The loss maybe it took us one playoff game to
now get a feel for it and know what the
type of intensity to type of physicality is gonna be
brought to the game just the way, they play so
we should be more than prepare for That on. Tuesday
night he could.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
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CON fox i don't know what.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It is there are certain maybe it's as A kid
i like to build FORTS or i thought about majoring.
IN architecture i love, THE draft i. ALWAYS have i
just like the way you. Build teams it's so much fun.
To me so the draft to ME is i think there's,
certain teams Like, the raiders, very INTERESTING like i know
what certain teams are. GONNA do i Know the chargers
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are going to get more. Juice offensively they're gonna go get,
a receiver a, tight end a, running back and. Interior
alignment everybody in the world. Knows that every mock draft
Of the chargers is they're loading up on offense because
their defense is. Good enough they'll go get a rush
end because You know bosa's. Gone now but by, and
large you know what certain teams are. Gonna do, For,
INSTANCE denver i think wants a running back once another.
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Tight End sean payton wants, more toys, you Know. FOR
bonnicks I think washington wants to get, you know They
Got deebo Samuel and. Terry McLaurin my Guess is washington
tries to shore up their offensive and defensive line so
they can compete With The philadelphia eagles and. Their DIVISION
if I, Was washington I'M like i got McLaurin and
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Debo And. Jayden daniels we're Not beating philadelphia if we
don't get a better on line and A better. D
LINE so I think washington's fairly predictable where they're going.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
TO go i Think the. CHARGERS are I think. Denver is.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
So what it's interesting, is like what do you Do With.
Jackson dart he's, obviously talented he's a. DRAFTABLE player i
don't really see him as a. Fund PLAYER but i
also think he's got a. Good arm he played IN,
the sec he won. Big games he learned a Lot From,
lane kiffin who's a very smart, offensive coach and the
PEOPLE that i trust and respect they like him MORE than.
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I Do and so Here's What, daniel JEREMIAH former, nfl
scout here's what he sees.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
THE way i would sell you, on him, you know
in terms of the, value there it reminds me a Lot,
of hurts, you know Just when hurts was, coming out
and that you follow the trend Line, With hurts hurts
got better every year. He was he was, a strong.
Sturdy guy He's A jim ratt who's obsessed with. Being
good all the intangible stuffs off. The charts the toughness,
is there the intelligence. Is there so, TO me i
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think you're just. Buying that that trend line just keeps.
ON going i Could see brian daveallfilm like he's a
little bit better fit for that environment that they're in
there in terms of, the weather you're going to be
playing in, the wind all.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Those, things so and then most teams IN, the nfl
there are very few teams that aren't good.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
AT anything, i mean just think.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
About This The Chaka iago bears don't win, a lot
but actually offensively they got. GOOD players i mean they,
GOT interior, o line, right tackle, wide receiver, tight end.
Running back bears could use another, running back but they got.
Good dudes they got a lot of. GOOD dudes I
think chicago's gonna load up on the. Defensive SIDE if I,
Was chicago i'd get another pass rush from, another corner.
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ANOTHER linebacker i would load up on. Defensive players they're
gonna they're doing it the right Way. In chicago they
hired an offensive coach and they're spending money. On offense
what they have to do after sweat the defensive lineman
is they got to get cheap. On defense That's What kansas.
City does They'll Play, Chris jones that's What the rams
Do With. Aaron donald we'll pay one great. Defensive player
but in this, league now the kind of trend is
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we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Buy offense we'll spend Money.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
On Now the steelers are, the opposite And the steelers
are No Longer super. Bowl VIABLE so i Think the
bears have shown. Their Hand, Joe Tooney, Drew Dolman, KEENAN Allen.
Dj moore they're Gonna pay. Cole comentaim oh, they, Did
okay so the bottom Line is, chicago's, like hey we're.
Paying offense we don't want to. Be patient we want
To Give kayleb william guys that. Could, play now let's go, get,
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young twitchy fast and inexpensive.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
On DEFENSE so i Think the bears go.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Heavy defense then you get these teams Like The New,
york giants where, you're like.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
What are they? Good at and what they're good at
is the.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Defensive LINE and i like their, Offensive coach So the
giants could use. A lot they've got a LEFT tackle,
i love but he. Gets hurt they have a WIDE receiver,
i like but he can be a. Bit needy so,
to me If the giants want to compete Against The
philadelphia eagles and they want to make up Ground, on
washington you're not doing It With.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Abdual carter you're doing it with.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
A quarterback so if you want to trade down And Get,
Jackson dart i'm all. FOR that I would i Would
Take Shador sanders and, people, say well you'd be reaching.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
ON him i.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Get it but, it's like first, of all having been
in the, draft room when a team is getting ready,
to draft let's say it's like the, third round they
don't go necessarily in, exact, ORDER right a general manager's
got six guys that are basically, you know let's say
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it's five to. Six guys you're drafting one hundred. And,
thirteenth okay you're in the, fourth round and all of,
a sudden it's like late third.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Round and, you're like we need a.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Tight end but he's six players away grade wise from.
This spot you take the. Tight end it's what. You
need when you go to the, grocery store you're not,
buying value you're buying what. You need your kids, want
milk they. Want, pancakes well the rake is. On sale
we've already got, a rake you. Need milk you know
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you're making Pancakes at. Sunday morning so, TO me i
am willing to Reach when i'm not a good, football
operation and RIGHT now i am the fourth best quarterback
team in. THE division i Don't Think abdul carter is changing.
THE temperature I Think shador. Sanders. Is now if you
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want to, TRADE back i got. NO problem i Think
the giants would absolutely. Trade Back But russell wilson's not
the long term solution Either Is. Jameis winston so now
they may just think, TO them i really, believe Truthfully
the giants would love to, trade BACK and i think
a lot of.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
People would but, if why who's?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Coming up that's. The Problem?
Speaker 5 (40:26):
New, orleans Yeah But new orleans, at nine From everything,
i've heard is not going to. Go quarterbacks So if
shadora is on the table, AT nine i still don't
think necessarily he's locked into. That pick, so If like daniel,
just said it's either three with with The g men
or it's twenty one With. The steelers in Terms, OF
sanders i don't think they're going quarterback. At nine so
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who's coming up to get? A guy they might not see.
How that so this is that type of draft where
not a lot of people want to.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Come, up yeah certainly not in the top.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Ten picks So Here's, daniel JEREMIAH former nfl scout for
three Teams, On Shoudur sanders Roy.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Could land, TO me I.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Think shador goes Three or shouldur goes. Twenty, ONE like
i don't see the should team in between those, two
spots and maybe you have somebody come back up, for
HIM but i think that's, you know he's in play
there With, the giants and my gut tells me they'd
rather have the quarterback as the second person to speak
at the, press conference, you know like you get we
tried Out. Abdul carter we got our, premier player. Premier
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position we feel like there's not much. Risk there and
then now we introduce, the quarterback maybe not as much
pressure on him at this point.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
In time we believe in and we don't have to
play him.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Right away that's that's really Interesting In new york that
your press conference is much better if we've got an
absolute Lock. Abdul, carter oh we got We Got jackson
dart at the top of the. Second round that's that's
Not In New, york hey and he doesn't have to play.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Any year that's not.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Bad thinking it's it's really easy to say We Got
abdul carter because nobody's gonna criticize taking.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Him three he might be the best player in the.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Draft and You Have russell wilson as.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Your starter but if You take sanders, at three it
might be harder to, sell that especially if you know
you can Get dart or McCord in the second or maybe.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
THIRD round i. Like McCord, I'm told i'm told he
is more, late third early.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Fourth, ROUND yeah i. Like him my guys don't like
him as MUCH as i like. Him, too yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He's Productive paul pierce after a really FUN opening nba,
playoff week Are the lakers really? In Trouble because i'll tell,
you This The houston rockets. They are they are officially,
in trouble and So. Is memphis that series is, Over
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It's NFL Draft week and the NBA playoffs had begun
inn in Earnest.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It was a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Slippers Nuggets was fantastic, Warriors Rockets good, especially at the end.
Keep throwing Orlando the next several years. Not at full
strains right now. Boston's gonna fly through them. Orlando's interesting.
They can't shoot, but I like the players. Mont Carlo's great,
all right. Daniel year Amaia been a scout for three
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NFL teams, is going to be joining us. Somebody I
trust absolutely when it comes to the draft works at
the NFL Network on their draft coverage, and we do
it every Monday at this time. Where Colin was right,
Where Colin was wrong, and here we.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Go where Colin was right.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, we told you last Wednesday that talented young quarterback
Nico Iamaliaba was going to transfer to UCLA, and it
became official yesterday. His family said it's not about the money,
and he didn't have much of a market. I think
he's really, really talented, but I think it was a
big turn off that he bailed on a better football program.
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Now he is a California kid, so he's bouncing back home.
But you know, clearly Tennessee's a much better consistent football program.
So I'm not sure how it plays out, but we
broke the story and we'll take a.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Little credit for it.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Where Colin was raw ye, I may have just missed
on the Rockets Warriors series. The Rockets offense was a mess.
They shot under twenty percent from threes, and outside of Shngoon,
I don't know what they are in the half court set.
He's brilliant. I mean, he's got the nicest touch. But
Jalen Green, according to their coaching staff, appears to be
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a liability. Now. I do think Fred VanVleet will play
and shoot better, but I thought their size and athleticism
and the home courted man advantage, and the energy would
play a part, but in every crucial possession down the stretch,
I just felt better every time with the Warriors' offensive possession,
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and the Warriors also did a great job down the
stretch offensive rebounding to secure Game one in Houston, where
Colin was right well, I predicted Aaron Rodgers would be
best served waiting until the draft is over to make
a commitment, and according to last week, he's in no
hurry and is not making a commitment. And I don't
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think it's a bad decision, by the way, asked Kirk Cousins.
He got burned on it. And also the Pittsburgh Steelers,
who apparently haven't checked the calendar in about a decade,
have forgotten the quarterback matters. They're the only team desperate
enough to be really, really interested, because even Aaron Rodgers
admitted that Minnesota's not waiting for him. So you know, listen,
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Aaron's talented, but he's very, very distracted. Doesn't feel like
there's a huge market for him, and I think Pittsburgh's
a bad fit.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But we saw it coming.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Where Colin was raw, It's not that the Timberwolves beat
the Lakers. They pushed him around the floor for two
and a half hours, and I think the Lakers will
bring in more urgency. But Luca had one assists, Austin
Reeves got pushed around. I think Lebron has to be
more engaged. But the Tea Wolves, Baby, were humming from
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the outside. And it's not like they were just shooting well.
They were getting great looks. Forty two open threes. Is
that a playoff record?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
We looked that up, but that surprised me. It just
surprised me the lack of urgency and physicality.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
By the Lakers. Colin was right. I've been saying this.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
If you start paying Brock pretty fifty large, that window's closing, baby.
And how about Pooka Nikua apparently believes the same thing
rock perty.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Is he gonna get a five? I don't think so.
Do you think he's gonna go with a four?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He's gonna start with a four?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
High four?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Mm?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
No, I think mid for forty five? I think so.
I mean, I think if he does that, that'd be
smart for him and them.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yeah, I mean I think he's he seems like a
smart guy.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
I dont think he like they're still they have a
chance to still be in their window. And I think
if if he goes for a five, that the window closes.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, did we send them our transcripts?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love it where Colin was Wraw. Russell Westbrook can
drive me crazy. But I thought he and Jokic won
Game one, a very tight game, and you got the
full Russell Westbrook experience. I mean, you got his energy,
you got his rebounding, you got his toughness, you've got
his defense. I thought, he you know, I mean, he's
not a flawless player. This three were showing was huge,
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but you got to be fair in this business.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't always love him as a player.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I thought he was so valuable and you can say
whatever you want with Westbrook, but it's six'. Four that
dude is a great rebounder and he has no problem
battling six to nine guys in the. Paint he loves.
It good for.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Him Where colin was. Raw i'm not a huge fan
Of Jackson.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
DART i think when you put pressure on him and
becomes a better version Of Zach. WILSON i just he
even went to the same high. School but you, know
PEOPLE i like in THE nfl WHO i, trust rams like.
Him reportedly Day ball likes. Him So i've talked to
somebody over the weekend that likes him a, lot an
executive in THE nfl WHO i have respect. For SO.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I watched him a lot in.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
COLLEGE i Watched Ole miss AND sec football And Lane
kevin And Jackson dart a. LOT i never looked at
it and, thought, wow it was a first round. Talent
NOW i think he's better than A Will. LEVIS i
think he's better Than Zach. Wilson he's obviously a talented.
Guy there's a you, know whatever it. Is you know
he can make big. Throws but he beat up on
a lot of bad teams in. College was one and
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three AGAINST bam And, georgia and that one win he
had thirteen completed.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Passes but the.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
League we'll. See we'll see On. Thursday but the league
apparently disagrees with. Me Colin Wright colin wrong on A,
Monday and with that we bring in Live Daniel JEREMIAH Nfl.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Network you can watch him.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Through all seven rounds In Green, bay, which by the,
way is going to be an. EXPERIENCE i love THE
nfl moving around the. Draft there's nothing Like lambeau and
The Green Bay packer. Fans live coverage Starts thursday on
THE Nfl network at Eight. EASTERN i will be absolutely grude.
Glued so let's start With Jackson. Dart i'm a Bigger
shador fan than. MOST i think Cam ward's going to
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be a big hit In. Tennessee SO i like two.
Quarterbacks Jackson dart's the ONE i don't. Get i've, said
same high school As, zach same kind of. SIZE i
think he's better Than. ZACH i think he's a stronger.
Kid tell me WHAT i, missing because EVERYBODY i talk
to likes. HIM i don't quite see.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
It, Yeah, colin for, me he ended up being my
thirty fourth, PLAYER i think like thirty four thirty, six
like somewhere in that. Ring SO i had him in
that second round grouping and the WAY i would sell
you on, him you, know in terms of the value.
There it reminds me a lot Of, hurts you, know
just When hurts was coming, out and that you follow
the trend line With, Hurts hurts got better every year he.
(07:29):
Was he was a, strong sturdy. Guy he's a gym
rat who's obsessed with being. Good all the intangible stuffs
off the. Charts the toughness is, there the intelligence is.
There so to, ME i think you're just buying. That
that trend line just keeps on. Going AND i look,
at you, know the giants of the team THAT i
think make the most. SENSE i think he's a little
more physical Than. Shadure from that, CONVERSATION i Have shador
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rated higher than. Him but for the giants, SPECIFICALLY i
could See brian daballfilm like he's a little bit better
fit for that environment that they're in there in terms
of the, weather you're going to be playing in the,
wind all those.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Things, well having worked for multiple organizations in your career
and now doing The chargers, radio you, KNOW i was
talking to an offensive coordinator this weekend WHO i had dinnernew,
with AND i was talking about the coach and the decisions,
made and you, know you can have owners. Impact The
raiders are fascinating to me because AND i wonder if
teams think about. This so If Gino smith And Sam
(08:24):
darnold were a little, similar if they're throwing with decent
protection and a run game on third and, two watch
out If gino Or sam are throwing without a run
game and THE o line.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Protection is not. Great they can turn.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Fast AND i look At gino And i'm, like you,
know If GINO i like The RAIDERS o line left,
tackle center From, oregon right tackle From. MARYLAND i look
at The raiders And i'm, LIKE i can See Pete carroll, Saying,
Hey gino with a run game is a pretty PRETTY
B b plus. Quarterback do you think coach just think
(09:00):
that way based On maybe it's a bit of a,
reach but he makes our quarterback better and in this,
league that's about seventy five percent of.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
It, YEAH i mean you're talking About, genty you. Know,
yeah to, me, Yeah, GENTY i am as the third
best player in the. Draft so from from a talent,
standpoint absolutely it makes.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Sense and usually when you have teams picking up.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
There the PUSHBACK i have on running backs, is, man
if your team's not ready for, him don't take, him you,
know because you only have six or seven year run
with these, Backs so don't waste them on a team
that doesn't have a good offensive line or is a
bad situation for, him because then you've wasted two or
three of those you, know six or seven. Years like
you need to have a team that's ready for, him
and even though they're picking up there in the top,
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TEN i can make a strong case The raiders have
some good pieces on that offensive, line you, know continue
to add to.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
It another interior player would be.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
Nice The bears have have done their best to retool
and revamp their. GROUP i think both those teams in
the top, ten they would make sense to me For
ash and as teams that are ready to maximize, him you,
know right when he gets there and you're looking at
someone to help an older quarterback In vegas or somebody
to come in there and try and you, know look
(10:11):
at the opportunity to Help caleb and get him up and.
Running so both those make a lot of sense to.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Me, okay so what is gent better at Than Omario
hampton From? Carolina because he jumps through THE tv as.
Well but how does gent separate separate from another back,
who by the, way is a home run, Threat he's
got major.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
BURST i watched them a lot Of. Carolina why is
genty better Than?
Speaker 6 (10:34):
Hampton And hampton's like my thirteenth, Player so to, me
you're talking about two guys who are top fifteen talents
in this draft. Class, Now hampton you get a bigger,
body you get you, know the. Durability both these guys
are incredibly. Durable, hampton you give him the plus side
in terms of you, know polish in the past, game
so that would definitely go to him size and then
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the value.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
There but just as a.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Pure, runner instincts like contact, balance it's. Shiftiness Man genti's
such a gifted runner of the, football AND i think
that he can create space when it's not. THERE i
Think hampton's a little more of a crease. Runner just
give him a little bit of space and he can
he can really. Go but, MAN i See genty that
game that everybody kind of wanted to hit him on and.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Go how will you do Against Penn?
Speaker 6 (11:17):
State And i'm, like, well the five yard runs he
had in The Penn state game whereas impressive as any
five yard runs you're going to. See he's fighting fighting
off five guys to get past the line of scrimmage
and still find a way to make something positive.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Happen SO i think both those guys are great.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Players, OKAY i got to ask you it's you had said.
Earlier it's not a star, draft it's a starter. Draft
there are PLAYERS i want to give you a, Player
Colston loveland For. Michigan so a lot of the picks
like twenty one or twenty two down are offensive coaches
and clever, Guys kevin, O'Connell Sean, Payton sean, McVay Andy, Reid.
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Harbaugh Colston loveland to, me is. Interesting he looks like a,
receiver you, know but he's like two forty, five but
he carries his weight because he's so, Tall AND i
can see an offensive coach, going. YEAH i MEAN i
could See harball, going you know. WHAT i had him At.
MICHIGAN i CAN i can use. Him we need a
receiver and a tight. END i can use him as.
(12:16):
Both what do you make of? HIM i see all
these smart offensive coaches at the end of the first,
round And i'm, LIKE i could see those guys, going
he is A day one.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Starter what do you make of?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Him, well as you're, LOOKING i just want to make
SURE i don't say the wrong number here BECAUSE i
don't want to give you the wrong. Number So Colston
levelin is my seventh overall. Player that tells you what
kind of GRADE i have on. HIM i saw him
play live this, year saw him in, person went down
there for warm, ups and you're, right, like he's impressive
when you just see him, Physically he's an unbelievable. Athlete
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he does things LIKE i have war in one spot above.
HIM i think it's a weird, draft, Right i've got
a running back and two tight ends in my top
seven players in this draft. Class but when you look
at At warren's kind of like the bigger in line.
Physicality but when you're watching loved, one this is someone
who can win at the line of. Scrimmage you can
win at the top of the. ROUTE i, mean you
talk about The, CHARGERS i DON'T i can't imagine that
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he gets within. Distance BUT i will tell you, This,
colin if you're Watching thursday night and he's on the,
BOARD i do not expect The chargers to use all ten.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Minutes let's put that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Way, yeah the give me a player THAT i was
talking to AN nfl executive who just loved A, miikabuka
the receiver For Ohio.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
State he's, like, oh this guy the.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Routes he's, like he is going to play day, one
a total grown, up and he just went on.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And on he.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Goes and it was funny because he's like we don't
need a slot, receiver and he hasn't played enough on the.
Sideline BUT i think in a draft like, THIS i
thought he was overshadowed At Ohio. State so what kind
OF nfl player is he going to? Be what is
his comp because EVERYBODY i talked to loves.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Him, WELL i don't think you have to, go you,
know far. BACK i think you go to the same.
School and look What Jackson smith And jigbab you, know
turned into last year when they started to really get
him up and running.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Up there In.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Seattle, smart, tough, STRONG i love the less need is
SOMEONE i like talking to about. Receivers and we had
this conversation a couple of years, ago and he talked
about the importance of just being grounded through the. Catch
like guys who trust their hands they run through the.
Ball they don't they don't jump and catch the ball
in their. Body they don't gather step like they can
haul right through the. Ball and you look at guys
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they've had success with With cup and with With, puka
even go back to Like Robert, woods those guys who
had real, strong natural.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Hands to, me At buka does those.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Things and the other thing is you want to, run
you want to do some bunch of, stuff and you
want him to dig out a linebacker and you don't
have to ask him. Twice he has no problem getting
in there and doing. That like that's that's a you,
know it's a nice bonus that he brings to the.
Table and WHEN i tell you that he was impressive
at the, Combine i'm talking, like buddy of mine that
have been doing this for thirty, years, say this is
one of the top five Interviews i've ever. Had that's
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how impressive this kid.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Is. Wow THE i kind of feel like the draft
starts with The New York giants because that's what it
feels like to.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Me what is your gut on what they do at number?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Three, WELL i mean there's to, ME i Think shador
goes three or shouldor goes twenty. One that, LIKE i
don't see the should or team in between those two,
spots and maybe you have somebody come back up for,
him BUT i think that's you, know he's in play
there with The, giants and my gut tells me they'd
rather have the quarterback as the second person to speak
at the press, conference you, know like you get we
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tried out alb Dul. Carter we got our premier, player premier.
Position we feel like there's not much risk, there and
then now we introduce the, quarterback maybe not as much
pressure on him at this point in. Time we believe
in and we don't have to play him right, away
but we kind of you, know to me that that
combination makes a lot of. Sense, now whether that's trading
back up For Jackson dart or that's trading back up For.
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Shador you, know we'll see how that all. Unfolds but
my gut is just feels, like, man you want to
get a sure thing up, there and With hunter we
all assume is going to be gone at. Two then
then now would put Abdul carter right in your.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Mix, Finally.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Nico iamadiava is the quarterback that, played was a high school,
phenom goes To. TENNESSEE i think he's. Talented he didn't
play great in the biggest, games but you, know it's
hard to play great when you're Playing georgia And Ohio
state and the. Life then it's very. Public it feels
Like dad had. Influence he goes TO, ucla which is
(16:37):
not the same level of program Of. Tennessee does it.
Matter i've heard a lot of people say it's going
to hurt him in THE, nfl And i'm, like, yeah
maybe at quarterback it. Does as somebody that's worked around
THE nfl and is currently employed by AN nfl, team
does it hurt him in THE nfl in the year
if he has a good year AT, ucla would it hurt.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Him i'll just give you a real SIMPLE x nation, Here,
colin what's going to happen fast forward a year from
now or two years from, now whenever he decides to.
Enter the teams that don't need quarterbacks and are picking
towards the bottom of the draft will critique and have
all types of issues with this situation and the decision
that he. Made those that actually need quarterbacks in a
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position to actually take quarterbacks are not going to give
a flying flip about any of this. Stuff, like just
give me the talented kid who you know IS i
can build with and grow. With all these kids have,
TRANSFERRED i don't you know going into the motivations of
why they, left and there'll be arguments made it was the,
offense and some people will say it was the. Money
at the end of the, Day colin just always remember
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talent over.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Everything, YEAH i mean that's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It Daniel jeremiah move To sticks Podcast thursday eightiest or
and that's five o'clock our time here on The West
COAST nfl. Network he and the staff over there do
a great job on the. Draft it's, Great senior as.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Allays my.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Man good to see, buddy all.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Right, yeah he does terrific. Work so again he Likes
Jackson dart too a little. Bit so you know what
it's happened. Before, yep Where i'm. Wrong you know it's.
Infrequent but, YEAH i, mean WELL i Don't i'm not.
ROOTING i hope he.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Works the league is much better with good quarterback, play.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
And we haven't had.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
It we have seen a derth of good quarterback play
the past few.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Years there's not that. Many and in this, DRAFT i.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Mean just look At.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Tennessee they thought they had it With Marcus mariota and
then they, didn't and they.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
They Will Levis Ryan.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Tannehill so they've gone the, draft they've gone a guy
in the. League they've taken big swings ON sec. Guys
so like it would be more fun to Watch tennessee
for the next ten. Years if Cam ward's a. PLAYMAKER
i never root, against first of, all any young. Person
but in THE, nfl good question that one o'clock window
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by week nine to ten if it's the bad quarterback,
window because the networks are flexing and they want all
the good games later in the. Afternoon so to make
that red zone one o'clock window good you Want caleb
William we said this last, year The bears are going
to be in that one o'clock, window and by the
middle of the, year you're, like it's not that much
fun to. Watch So tennessee's more of a one o'clock
(19:14):
window team in THE. Nfl Carolina Bryce young more of
a one o'clock window. Team, yeah but Surging yeah, No Bryce,
YOUNG i thought at the end of last year played
very very. Well so you got a root for quarterback
play if you really love the, sport not just your own.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Team how good is the ten am window on The west? Coast?
Though you don't have to, wait you just you're up
and you got.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
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Speaker 2 (19:39):
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Speaker 1 (20:45):
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Coast guys went To universal this weekend with that was that?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
Fun it was, great Little universal. Action yea was Really
it's a fun, park a little more family oriented than
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Speaker 3 (21:10):
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a little. Breeze here Is jordan with a news no.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Turns this is The herdline. News oh.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
In The chiefs are coming off a Tough Super bowl
loss to The eagles and are.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Looking to bounce back to their championship.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
WAYS gm brettbeat spoke to the team strategy ahead Of thursday's.
Speaker 10 (21:40):
Draft take a, Listen we always want to Surround pat with,
playmakers and you, know the more talented white house you
can throw on the field at one time is something
important to. Us and death at running back and look
this kickoff rule. TOO i, mean, ideally you know it
would be advantageous for us to identify a receiver indoor
(22:03):
running back that has explosive playmaking ability on both ends
Of vermijo did a great, job but, again we're always
pushing the envelope to get one percent.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
BETTER i think it's important to mention That Kansas city
had significant injuries last, year whether it Was, Pacheco Rashi,
Rice Hollywood, brown and the offensive line was never really
able to settle. In BUT i think you can expect
someone as shrewd and crafty as A Brett beach to
be aggressive in this draft calling well and as a,
(22:33):
result gon't get another weapon or two For Pat. Mahomes
one more, Note Andy reid loves his running. Backs this
is a very deep running back. CLASS i would expect
them to target that as.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, yeah there are two things they really need to,
UPGRADE o line and the running back. Room everything else they're, fine, yeah,
Worthy Rashi, rice, Listen they like everybody else have missed on.
Receivers it's the hardest position in the. League there's more of,
them but there's more drama and ego at wide.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Receiver SO i it's.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
FUNNY i think The chiefs will make the, playoffs BUT
i have The chargers winning the division AND i think
a lot of this it's not a knock on, them
it's just the reality of they were eleven to zero
in one score game and that's historically. Unprecedented so AND
i also think the division Now Jim harbaugh gets another
Draft harbaugh in year two is when he pops you
(23:25):
know You're.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Michigan Sean payton the other draft two.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yep and by the, Way Pete, Carroll Chip kelly And
Gino smith major upgrade for The. Raiders SO i think
it's now the best division in. Football and so just
based on that and not going eleven to zero one score,
GAMES i think The chiefs are a playoff, team BUT
i think they pull.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Back in terms of regular season.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
DOMINANCE i think also address offensive line to your point
another weapon or, two and again with the running, backs
and you read And Brett beetz always find running back.
Value look At Isaiah. Pacheco they're going to find it
again in this, draft especially given how deep it. Is
Kirk cousins is still a part of The falcons for,
now but the, Expectation, colin is that he'll be elsewhere
(24:08):
at some point this. Season reports indicate That atlanta has
engaged in trade talks regarding the veteran, quarterback but has
been asking for too, much wanting teams to pay twenty
million of the forty five million and guarantees left on his. Deal,
colin do you Believe cousins can still be a contributor
in THE?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Nfl where do you like? Him any of? Them?
Speaker 1 (24:27):
YEAH i MEAN i Think, kirk with another off the,
injury with another off, season has got another season in.
HIM i don't think it's a playoff. SEASON i think
he'd be better served probably in THE, nfc the conference
he knows it's a weaker quarterback and a weaker overall.
Conference BUT i don't think there's a huge. MARKET i,
mean you're seeing him And aaron getting. Older they have major,
(24:50):
surgery And aaron was struggling, Early kirk struggled, late and
there's not a big market for either because they're both
still pretty expensive. Quarterbacks aaron said last, WEEK i played
for ten million. Dollars i'll believe it WHEN i see.
It but that's kind of What, kirk who's made a.
Fortune If kirk wants to, play he's going to take a. Discount,
YEAH i.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Thought it would Be. Cleveland then they Signed Joe. Flacco
it could still Be, Cleveland. Colin it still could be
The browns if they don't take a quarterback in the.
Draft But atlanta is going to have to eat a
significant portion of that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Salary there's just no other way about.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
It and it's a dysfunctional, Environment collin For kirk to
still be. There he's not in the building right. Now
you Got Michael, pennox who you, know is the. FUTURE
i don't like the optics of. It so it's going
to be a fascinating draft for lenn and also fascinating
a few weeks moving forward to THE, nba where The
celtics took a one nothing series lead against The Magic.
Yesterday scary moment. Though in the Fourth Jason tatum drove
(25:48):
for a dunk and was met By Contavious Caldwell pope
And Wendell Carter junior at the rim before falling hard
on a shooting. Risk Now tatum was in pain and
missed the ensuing free, throws but was able to stay
in the. Game good news THE X rays came back,
Negative tatum, said.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Quote he's all. Right Derek white was. Terrific thirty.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
POINTS i Thought Jalen, brown even though he didn't score a,
lot was. Good how About Peyton. Pritchard you are not
meant to be this deep in TODAY'S.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Nba they're.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Not When Derek white is your fifth best player and
he goes for, thirty, yeah that's the.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Depth and you've really spoken to that all.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Year About, Boston, YEAH i think they're undervalued even as
a championship team because they're not.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Flashy they're just, deep well.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Coached, YEAH i, MEAN i just nobody else in the
league goes eight deep on. Shooters, no so they're just.
Different cleveland's really. GOOD i Mean miami didn't have a. Shot,
NO i Mean cleveland's really really. Good Eric, spolstra especially
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opening games of a. Series you, Know spolstra playing. Game
he's such a good. Coach his hands are. Tied cleveland's
got too many good.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Players Garland, mitchell and then you got tied To erome
coming up bombing three shooting forty seven. Percent mobi didn't
have a huge offensive. Game now it's still really. GOOD
i want to give a little love To Paalo Ban
carol My.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Seattle he is.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
A WELL i, mean first of, all we knew he was. Great,
YES i really like When Jalen suggs is. Healthy they
got to get a. Shooter, yes like they have to
go in the market and go grab a Shooter Ti
jerome Where Max scruce they buy someone? Like but they
that team Gave boston a. Fight that is a good
team with some real offensive. Skill it's just not perimeter. Skill,
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yeah they're very. Young they will be very.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Good and her was only twenty two years old oday high,
School seattle played there a.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Lot love to see. That sticking with THE, nba this
is good.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Stuff fresh off of winning The Wooden award as a
nation's top.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Player Cooper flag has officially declared for THE Nba.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Draft the Former Blue devil and projected first overall pick
average nineteen eight and four as a, freshman obviously Leading
duke to a thirty five and four record final four.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Appearance you talked earlier about The. BULLS i know you
love to see him A.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
CHICAGO i want to see him go to like San, Antonio.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Utah chicago BECAUSE i think those are functional. Organizations i'll
trust him with Any Danny ainge run, TEAM i would trust.
HIM i Think chicago got a kid last, year like
with this one of the seven or eight seven or eight,
pick and he's actually really. Good chicago played their butt
off this year despite limited Talent Josh giddy so AND
i also think San antonio would would do him. Well
(28:21):
The rockets are already so young now if he went
to The, rockets they would have a.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Shooter, yeah so that would be.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Substantial but there are Teams, Listen it's, LIKE i want
my quarterbacks to go to functional organizations exactly the.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Same And dallas Ad kyrie.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Play that's exciting San antonio here In Fox wimby that could.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Work let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Something If Cooper flag went To, Dallas oh, my that
could be. Fun oh with their center rotation Eighty. Kyrie
another thing again Is. Luca that would be if you,
could if you could pick a team.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
That he goes to that just is. Wild you would Pick.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Dallas that would that would be a wildcar in the.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
List i'd like. That sorry To, chicago that would be
a fun, WATCH i Would jordan with the.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping that
the herd line.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
News you, know it's it's funny when you, like in,
baseball so much about baseball is pitcher and.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Batter so like pitchers are never just mailing it.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
In you, know they're they're they got bonuses tied to.
Performance and batters, similarly aren't mailing it. In you're you're
in the batter's. Box hockey and, football you get hurt
if you take place, off you just get. Hurt but
there is something to be, said like sometimes in soccer
or basketball you can give it about eighty percent and
(29:49):
kind of look the. PART nba has got a problem
on their hands with load. Management BUT i thought this
week and this, weekend what you really Saw boston's veterans
late in the, Game New York knicks veterans late in the,
Game warriors veterans late in the, Game Denver denver's veterans.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Late in the.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
GAME i, mean you you really saw what playoff basketball?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Is is?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
That and it's it's kind of a you problem as
an organization if you don't understand. This The lakers clearly
didn't playoff basketball is just more physical because THE nba is, like,
listen we're not going to ask if you've ever seen
like a six, nine six' TEN retired. Nba player they're
all hobbled with. Their back you're not built to be.
Six eleven human beings are not built to be, six
(30:33):
eleven and so it beats up in your body in all.
This travel they used to fly commercially back in, the
seventies and so, you know it's you can't ask Guys
like jokic to play eighty two games both ends of
the floor with that body in that weight shack fell.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Apart physically so.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Like when you get TO, the nba the playoffs are a.
Different sport The Intensity clippers denver on the, First, possession yeah, you're,
like oh this is gonna. Be good i'm gonna make.
Some popcorn this is gonna be good for two and a.
Half HOURS so i thought what you really saw over
the weekend was what REALLY the nba is bank on.
(31:12):
THE veterans i didn't listen to my. Own advice, i'm, Like,
Oh houston houston and the half court set three starters
playing THEIR first. Laf, game look they started panicking in the.
Second half they. Started panicking, they're like what is? Our
OFFENSE so i just thought it was really entertaining. To
watch my guess Is the lakers bounce Back in game
two and even. The Series but minnesota is. Well coached they,
(31:36):
are physical ant is, you know, ant special and they
got size and. They're pretty they. Play Smart so minnesota,
loves physical. Ugly basketball They're. The ravens, all right let's.
GET ugly a lot of teams, are Pretty like miami
(31:57):
likes to. Win pretty baltimore, is like, it's cold. It's
ugly it's built. For Us new england had. That, ability yeah,
it's like, all right. It's snowing, Come, on peyton come
on up here in the. Snow floories we're good. With It,
SO minnesota i think likes the games a little, an
artistic a, little UGLY.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
And i don't Think the lakers.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Want That no lakers can, be pretty.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
It fluid there are, shoot threes Driving kick minnesota, shoot
threes but.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
They'll bang they.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Are TOUGH and, I Thought, edwards man you said it
improving the shooting every year now was shooting for almost forty percent.
From three that number, for ME when i think about
everything else he does that speaks to the work he's.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Put, in yeah and.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
He is he's got to be one of the two
or three best closers in.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
The league and it's it's very hard like when you're
twenty two and twenty three years old and you are
as Gifted As, aunt edward's think about how gifted. He
is he could do anything he wants in. The court,
you know one of the hardest things to be. Is
PATIENT and i thought he just. Showed patience he didn't.
Rush things that's. Real maturity and now some of this
(32:59):
Goes to minnesota and how they've. DEVELOPED him a lot
of it just Goes To ant edwards that three four,
years ago nobody in the league would Have taken Ant.
OVER jaw i mean we put the stats. Up earlier
job was the better player and he. Was exciting jaw's
not as good as he was three, years Ago.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
And ant is.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Significantly Better And aunt edwards just deserves credit for the
time and the work he has put into. His game
so the downside to bringing in guys TO the nba
at nineteen, years old they're not ready.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
To play He's. Watched houston they're not ready.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
To play but like Look At, jalen green who's got tons, Of,
talent like what is? HIS game i don't know what his? Game,
is offensively what is? His game you can't put him.
At point he's not. A Shooter ann, edwards is and
he was good as. A rookie he is noticeably a
much more. Refined player and that kid Here was lebron
(33:51):
by the way after.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
The loss maybe it took us one playoff game to
now get a feel for it and know what the
type of intensity to type of physicality is gonna be
brought to the game just the way, they play so
we should be more than prepare for That on. Tuesday
night he could.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
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Speaker 8 (34:12):
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Speaker 2 (34:31):
CON fox i don't know what.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
It is there are certain maybe it's as A kid
i like to build FORTS or i thought about majoring.
IN architecture i love, THE draft i. ALWAYS have i
just like the way you. Build teams it's so much fun.
To me so the draft to ME is i think there's,
certain teams Like, the raiders, very INTERESTING like i know
what certain teams are. GONNA do i Know the chargers
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are going to get more. Juice offensively they're gonna go get,
a receiver a, tight end a, running back and. Interior
alignment everybody in the world. Knows that every mock draft
Of the chargers is they're loading up on offense because
their defense is. Good enough they'll go get a rush
end because You know bosa's. Gone now but by, and
large you know what certain teams are. Gonna do, For,
INSTANCE denver i think wants a running back once another.
(35:19):
Tight End sean payton wants, more toys, you Know. FOR
bonnicks I think washington wants to get, you know They
Got deebo Samuel and. Terry McLaurin my Guess is washington
tries to shore up their offensive and defensive line so
they can compete With The philadelphia eagles and. Their DIVISION
if I, Was washington I'M like i got McLaurin and
(35:39):
Debo And. Jayden daniels we're Not beating philadelphia if we
don't get a better on line and A better. D
LINE so I think washington's fairly predictable where they're going.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
TO go i Think the. CHARGERS are I think. Denver is.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
So what it's interesting, is like what do you Do With.
Jackson dart he's, obviously talented he's a. DRAFTABLE player i
don't really see him as a. Fund PLAYER but i
also think he's got a. Good arm he played IN,
the sec he won. Big games he learned a Lot From,
lane kiffin who's a very smart, offensive coach and the
PEOPLE that i trust and respect they like him MORE than.
(36:13):
I Do and so Here's What, daniel JEREMIAH former, nfl
scout here's what he sees.
Speaker 6 (36:20):
THE way i would sell you, on him, you know
in terms of the, value there it reminds me a Lot,
of hurts, you know Just when hurts was, coming out
and that you follow the trend Line, With hurts hurts
got better every year. He was he was, a strong.
Sturdy guy He's A jim ratt who's obsessed with. Being
good all the intangible stuffs off. The charts the toughness,
is there the intelligence. Is there so, TO me i
(36:41):
think you're just. Buying that that trend line just keeps.
ON going i Could see brian daveallfilm like he's a
little bit better fit for that environment that they're in
there in terms of, the weather you're going to be
playing in, the wind all.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Those, things so and then most teams IN, the nfl
there are very few teams that aren't good.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
AT anything, i mean just think.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
About This The Chaka iago bears don't win, a lot
but actually offensively they got. GOOD players i mean they,
GOT interior, o line, right tackle, wide receiver, tight end.
Running back bears could use another, running back but they got.
Good dudes they got a lot of. GOOD dudes I
think chicago's gonna load up on the. Defensive SIDE if I,
Was chicago i'd get another pass rush from, another corner.
(37:19):
ANOTHER linebacker i would load up on. Defensive players they're
gonna they're doing it the right Way. In chicago they
hired an offensive coach and they're spending money. On offense
what they have to do after sweat the defensive lineman
is they got to get cheap. On defense That's What kansas.
City does They'll Play, Chris jones that's What the rams
Do With. Aaron donald we'll pay one great. Defensive player
but in this, league now the kind of trend is
(37:42):
we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Buy offense we'll spend Money.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
On Now the steelers are, the opposite And the steelers
are No Longer super. Bowl VIABLE so i Think the
bears have shown. Their Hand, Joe Tooney, Drew Dolman, KEENAN Allen.
Dj moore they're Gonna pay. Cole comentaim oh, they, Did
okay so the bottom Line is, chicago's, like hey we're.
Paying offense we don't want to. Be patient we want
To Give kayleb william guys that. Could, play now let's go, get,
(38:07):
young twitchy fast and inexpensive.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
On DEFENSE so i Think the bears go.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Heavy defense then you get these teams Like The New,
york giants where, you're like.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
What are they? Good at and what they're good at
is the.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Defensive LINE and i like their, Offensive coach So the
giants could use. A lot they've got a LEFT tackle,
i love but he. Gets hurt they have a WIDE receiver,
i like but he can be a. Bit needy so,
to me If the giants want to compete Against The
philadelphia eagles and they want to make up Ground, on
washington you're not doing It With.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Abdual carter you're doing it with.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
A quarterback so if you want to trade down And Get,
Jackson dart i'm all. FOR that I would i Would
Take Shador sanders and, people, say well you'd be reaching.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
ON him i.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Get it but, it's like first, of all having been
in the, draft room when a team is getting ready,
to draft let's say it's like the, third round they
don't go necessarily in, exact, ORDER right a general manager's
got six guys that are basically, you know let's say
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it's five to. Six guys you're drafting one hundred. And,
thirteenth okay you're in the, fourth round and all of,
a sudden it's like late third.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Round and, you're like we need a.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Tight end but he's six players away grade wise from.
This spot you take the. Tight end it's what. You
need when you go to the, grocery store you're not,
buying value you're buying what. You need your kids, want
milk they. Want, pancakes well the rake is. On sale
we've already got, a rake you. Need milk you know
(39:46):
you're making Pancakes at. Sunday morning so, TO me i
am willing to Reach when i'm not a good, football
operation and RIGHT now i am the fourth best quarterback
team in. THE division i Don't Think abdul carter is changing.
THE temperature I Think shador. Sanders. Is now if you
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want to, TRADE back i got. NO problem i Think
the giants would absolutely. Trade Back But russell wilson's not
the long term solution Either Is. Jameis winston so now
they may just think, TO them i really, believe Truthfully
the giants would love to, trade BACK and i think
a lot of.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
People would but, if why who's?
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Coming up that's. The Problem?
Speaker 5 (40:26):
New, orleans Yeah But new orleans, at nine From everything,
i've heard is not going to. Go quarterbacks So if
shadora is on the table, AT nine i still don't
think necessarily he's locked into. That pick, so If like daniel,
just said it's either three with with The g men
or it's twenty one With. The steelers in Terms, OF
sanders i don't think they're going quarterback. At nine so
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who's coming up to get? A guy they might not see.
How that so this is that type of draft where
not a lot of people want to.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Come, up yeah certainly not in the top.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Ten picks So Here's, daniel JEREMIAH former nfl scout for
three Teams, On Shoudur sanders Roy.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Could land, TO me I.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Think shador goes Three or shouldur goes. Twenty, ONE like
i don't see the should team in between those, two
spots and maybe you have somebody come back up, for
HIM but i think that's, you know he's in play
there With, the giants and my gut tells me they'd
rather have the quarterback as the second person to speak
at the, press conference, you know like you get we
tried Out. Abdul carter we got our, premier player. Premier
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position we feel like there's not much. Risk there and
then now we introduce, the quarterback maybe not as much
pressure on him at this point.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
In time we believe in and we don't have to
play him.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Right away that's that's really Interesting In new york that
your press conference is much better if we've got an
absolute Lock. Abdul, carter oh we got We Got jackson
dart at the top of the. Second round that's that's
Not In New, york hey and he doesn't have to play.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Any year that's not.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
Bad thinking it's it's really easy to say We Got
abdul carter because nobody's gonna criticize taking.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Him three he might be the best player in the.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Draft and You Have russell wilson as.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Your starter but if You take sanders, at three it
might be harder to, sell that especially if you know
you can Get dart or McCord in the second or maybe.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
THIRD round i. Like McCord, I'm told i'm told he
is more, late third early.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Fourth, ROUND yeah i. Like him my guys don't like
him as MUCH as i like. Him, too yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
He's Productive paul pierce after a really FUN opening nba,
playoff week Are the lakers really? In Trouble because i'll tell,
you This The houston rockets. They are they are officially,
in trouble and So. Is memphis that series is, Over
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