April 21, 2025 • 42 mins
Colin Cowherd opens your Monday by looking at the Warriors win over Houston but wondering if they have enough in the tank to win the whole series, if the Lakers need to hit the panic button after their Game 1 loss to the Timberwolves, former Tennessee QB Nico Iamaleava commits to UCLA, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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after a wild NBA playoff weekend NFL Draft as well.
George Schultz sitting in one hour from now.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Where Colin was right? Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I sat in front of a TV all weekend long,
and I will be sitting in front of a TV
next weekend all weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
On the NFL Draft, n NBA playoff. So you make
you make predictions going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And I may be flipping one of my predictions after
one game.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't want to do recency buys.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't want to overreact. But what I watched last
night from the Warriors rock it is really troubling if
you're a Houston fan. So let's start with this. I
didn't follow my own advice. I've always said in the playoffs,
just take the experience and I said, you know, the
Warriors old and tired, they're small, and I'm going to
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take the Rockets in six or seven and they may
still win. They're easy to get enamored with. They're so twitchy,
they're so athletic. In Houston, yeah, I forgot. They can't shoot,
and three of their starters this is their first playoff series.
So they look the part when they get off the bus.
But if you take away transition points from Houston and
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make them play half court offensive basketball, man, they look lost.
Jalen Green, what is he? Yeah, he's athletic. Congrats, it's
the NBA. Who isn't. He can't shoot, He's not up
here point guard. He can't put them at that position.
I'm n Thompson, great athlete, don't trust him shooting. I
love Shangoon, the center from Turkey. He's got got a
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guard's touch. He's a little like Jokic feathery touch. But
you can't depend on him to beat Butler, to beat
Steph Curry, to beat Steph Kirk. Because there's a coaching
advantage with Golden State as well, and it's a prime
example like Jalen Green and Aman Thompson are a prime example,
they didn't go to college. They went to make some
money over time Elite G League and they and they.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Made some money. But what are their games? What are
their games like?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean I thought they both panicked. And again
they're fun to watch. But playoff basketball is half court basketball.
You don't get all the freebies because everybody's playing hard,
the coaching is better. You're playing the same team over
and over and over, so the fool's gold and easy baskets.
It doesn't work that way. Everybody is equally arrested. And
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I watched Houston and my takeaway was, man, do they
need kd or even Devin Booker? They need buckets in
the half court set. And conversely, here are the old
Warriors state Kerr. We're not gonna play Kaminga. We don't
need the length. We're gonna stay with our small ball lineup,
no panic even in the fourth quarter, just run through
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our sets. So both teams have an identity. But I
think Houston has to tweak their identity, and I thought
the Warriors would have to play cominga more than they
wanted to do to tweak theirs. Now Houston dominates the
offensive glass, so they're gonna win games in this series.
They played horribly in the first three quarters and that
game got down to about four points. But you see
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how valuable playoff experience is the referees. We tell you this.
Every year playoff basketball looks different. The referees want the
players to win the games. Okay, so they swallow the whistle.
They're gonna allow physicality. All these young players looking for
the whistle. Bruh, you're not getting in the playoffs. You're
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not getting a whistle over Steph Curry or Jimmy Butler
or Dre Green.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
The veterans know how to manipulate refs. And Golden State,
by the way, is twenty and one all time when
they win the first game of a playoff series. I
was worried about the old team playing Houston Rockets' home
court advantage, size advantage, energy advantage, And then I watched
that game and my only question, now, do the Warriors
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have the stamina to get six or seven games out
of this series and then go in to another series.
Their best players are all in their mid thirties. But
and the Rockets, again, they're so big an athletic they'll
win games. And Jalen Green has to play better, although
it's very clear the coaching staff of the Rockets did
not trust Jalen Green late. They had no interest in
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him being part of the offense. So Fred Vanvliet will
shoot better and play better. But I don't know. I
looked at this and I thought eighty five points was
a season low. And they're going to get into the nineties.
They're going to have better games there. Obviously, playoff basketball
is all about adjustments.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But Houston's got a problem again.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
They look great off the bus, but half court offense,
they're really young and what are they They're just really athletic.
And then you're watching the Warriors. Just stay patient, stay
with their sets. Every time Golden State comes down the floor. Late,
they got a good look.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You can count on one hand how many great looks
Houston got when they needed it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
In the fourth quarter. Here was Steve Kerr on Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
After he just made some amazing plays and obviously carried
us offensively.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Players win games.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's our job to, you know, to try to help
them along a little bit here and there. And I've
coached Steph Curry and Draymond Green for eleven years, so
of course, we've got a lot of playoff winds.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So I do worry about the Rockets going forward. I
may have just missed on that. Now let's talk Lakers
losing the opener of Minnesota. I'm not worried about the Lakers,
I don't think. But JJ Reddick welcomed the playoff basketball.
He didn't pull enough levers. So unlike the Rockets, the
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te Wolves can shoot. In fact, they had forty two
open threes. They just got great looks and they hit
a lot of them. But it was more about the
Lakers lack of energy and urgency and especially physicality. You
just can't waiting for the Lakers to kind of shift
into a second gear, and they never did. So Minnesota
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is a little like the Baltimore Ravens of the NFL,
where they're at their best sometimes playing ugly, really physical.
A lot of tough guys play with a ton of
physicality and energy, and it's not always pretty. You know,
the Lakers when they're at their best with Luke Lebron Austin,
it's pretty they're getting to the free throw line. But
the Lakers big three, Lucaea I scored a bunch of points.
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He had one assist. It can't just be points. Austin
Reeves totally out of rhythm. Again, Tea Wolves beat up
on him physically, and Lebron you know, I thought he
did a job. He's kept waiting for the game to
come to him a little bit, and it's like, Bro,
you look disengaged. And so it was just ugly. And
remember the Tea Wolves have played Luca before. This is
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a really good coaching staff. So and the other thing
that makes you wonder about the Lakers. The Lakers not
everything from the regular season carries over, but a lot does.
Like Houston didn't shoot well in the regular season. Houston
didn't shoot well yesterday. The Lakers are a bad road team.
They were sub five hundred on the road and they
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just lost home court advantage. Minnesota, like those Ravens, they
can win on the road. Why because physicality in all
sports like baseball and pitching, physicality and basketball and football travels.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So the Minnesota is going to give you a very
consistent effort. Not to mention Aunt Edwards. You know, unlike
John Morant has grown improved, he's more refined, he's pacing
his tempo, he's a patient player.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So like maybe it's just a bad matchup for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I think we're going to get a more physical, engaged
Laker team. That's what I think. So no sign of panic.
If I'm the Rockets though this morning, I don't know
if we can beat I don't know if we can
beat the Warriors with our half court offense. The Lakers
can run, the Lakers can shoot, the Lakers can play defense.
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But it worries your little Jackson Hayes didn't play much,
so Reddick doesn't think. He didn't give him any minutes.
And the Minnesota is big to begin with. You take
Jackson Hayes off the floor, it's like, do we got
a match up problem for the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
No reason to panic, But here is JJ Reddick.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
After we were mentally ready. I thought our spear it
was right. I thought even when they made runs, our
huddles were great. You know, the communication was great. I'm
not sure physically we were ready and if that makes sense,
And really when they started playing with a lot of
thrust and physicality, like we just didn't respond immediately to that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And that if you watch that game, this was an
easy one to scout if you had an assignment to
scout in the game, You're like, Minnesota took the game
to the Lakers, and they wanted to be a little ugly,
they wanted to be physical. You know, they got size,
they got tough guys. So that was totally Minnesota's game.
And then when you add in them shooting as well
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as they did, so you know, Lebron said after it
and maybe it just takes us a game to get ready.
That's the entirely possible. Odds makers are usually not terribly wrong.
I mean, they liked the Warriors to win it. I'm
watching that game thinking, yeah, they had it right. But Fincenzo,
Julius Randall and Edwards, a lot of dudes didn't always
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have to be pretty. But it was not only physical.
It was physical and pretty for Minnesota. So that's a
little troubling if you're a Laker fan. They played tomorrow
night in Game two. We have all sorts of stuff
that has developed. This is, of course, Draft week. Daniel Jeremiah,
fifty minutes from now, former NFL scout for three different teams.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
He's the one that label that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He said, it's not a star draft, it is a
starter draft. I had dinner with a NFL offensive coordinator
over the weekend. And there's a lot of good players
in this draft, a lot of good players. There's just
not a lot of star power at the top. And
we know Tennessee's taken cam Ward number two. We know
Cleveland number cam Ward's going number one in Tennessee number two.
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Cleveland's taking Travis Hunter. The draft kind of starts with
the New York Giants, and they've done a ton of
homework on Jackson Dart and Shador Sanders. So my guess
is probably take a defensive player. I'm just guessing. I
could see if they would take Shadeur. I think I
would take Shadeur Sanders if I was the Giants, but
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I think they would. I also think the New York
Giants because the draft's going to sort of start with
them because we know the first two picks. I think
if I was the Giants, I would take Calls and
if somebody wants Shador Sanders, and I think they should.
It's never been more of a quarterback league. There's seven
or eight teams that desperately need upgrades at quarterback, and
Tennessee's going to solve that with the first pick of
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the draft. So This is a very very fun week.
Coming up next, the best playoff series, the most even
series is Denver and the Clippers plus Cam Newton sounds
off on a decision by a young man that took
money over common sense. We'll talk about that coming up
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Speaker 1 (13:03):
So we told you a story was going to happen
last week. I think it was Wednesday or Thursday. I said,
this really talented kid, Nico Maldiava, the quarterback at Tennessee,
and he bailed on him, and.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
He said, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I told you I was told by somebody close to
the family he was going to be UCLA Brewin. Well,
it was made official yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't love the decision because Tennessee's got one hundred
and forty nine million dollars of annual revenue. They have
better coaching staff, better facilities, better players. I mean in
the SEC they've won nine plus games in three straight seasons,
so the coaching staff's pretty good. UCLA in the last
decade has won nine games once so and the market
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did not materialize when he said I want more money.
Now they're arguing. The family say it's not about money, but.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You know, it seems like, why would you leave Tennessee.
Well it's about the offense. Well, Tennessee's putting their last
couple quarterbacks in the NFL. That's all I know. Tennessee
quarterbacks end up in the NFL. Doesn't mean they end
up being as good as you know, Jaydon Daniels. But
you're playing the SCC, you get to the NFL. They're
doing something right with quarterbacks. So this feels like I
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said it last week, quarterback dad is now pageant mom,
And this feels very much like you know, dad made
a big decision.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't love it. Cam Newton voiced his opinion on this.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
Whoever advised this kid to sit out and chase in
hopes for more money is a fool because the reality
is this, And I'll need to tell everybody about what
NIO was and is intended for. It's just to make
your college experience comfortable. This is not forever money. You
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have to understand that, even though you're talking about me.
Billions and millions and millions of money.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
By the way, a couple million bucks in LA. Welcome
to the forty five percent tax bracket minimum. I mean
so that stuff. I mean, trust me. I live out
here a smoothie cash about sixteen bucks, a good one
Tennessee at probably Cosha is six and there's no state
tax there. So the money goes nowhere in La. Uh,
and it goes a long way. But I mean, I
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just to me, if I'm a quarterback, if I was
coming out of high school or a young quarterback, there
are programs I would go to, and it would be
programs that put NFL offensive linemen in the NFL, like
you know, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and you know Georgia.
I'm going to a place where I get protection, where
I've got, you know, really good playmakers. So I'm not
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sitting there running for my life throwing it. Like guys
that are unrestricted free agent level guys in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's Tennessee. That's not UCLA.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Usually LA put some guys in the NFL, but Tennessee's
we had a football program, So I wish him well.
It's certainly a big ad for Ucla, there's no question
about that. But the market did not materialize. There was
not a huge market. Belichick turned off. I talked to
another person at a top ten program, really turned off
by and this was such a public story. It's going
to stick to the kid, so he's going to have
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to really play well. A lot of this stuff, we
don't see how the sausage is made. It's kind of ugly.
This NIL stuff, it's kind of ugly, but we don't
see how. We don't really see what happens. But this
was so public that it's going to stick to the kid.
So he's going to have to be great at UCLA.
And UCLA doesn't have great talent, all right, So in
the Big ten they're I mean, I'm all throw it
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out off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What are they?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
The seventh to eighth best football program Tennessee is as
well funded as anybody in the SEC that isn't a
big boy adult football program. So I don't love to move.
Chasing money is folks, even in the NFL. You don't
make real money in the NFL to your second contract,
and Cam points out this is not forever money in
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the NIL. It's to make college more reasonable and more
comfortable and pizzas on me. If you're looking to get
rich in college and you're just gonna take the biggest check,
I think most of the time that's not going to
be that's not going to be the right fit. The
football is about fit and about coaching and about support systems,
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not just about get me mine. You know, talk to
guys who have played in good organizations like the Eagles
and the Packers and the Rams, and they go chase
money in free agency.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Go ask them how happy they are? Right, it's it's
not Jordan with news.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
No no heard on the news.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
This is the headline news on the NFL draft kicks
off Thursday, and one of the biggest question marks is
in the top five whether the Browns and Giants will
both pass on taking a quarterback now.
Speaker 10 (17:57):
According to Daniel, Daniel Jeremiah will be on the show today.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It's almost a game of.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
Chicken of who's going to pay the biggest price and
how much they love one of these quarterbacks. Reference Giants
have Danny, Tommy Devido, James Winston, Russell Wilson, Browns obviously Deshaun,
Joe Flacko, Canny Pickett.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Now I believe that should.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
The Giants pass, should the Giants take should Or Sanders
and pass on Abdul Carter.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I believe the Patriots would then take.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
Abdull Carter at four because I know they really like
Will Campbell. They've done a lot of homework on him,
the offensive tackle out at LSU. But Abdill Carter is
viewed as a generational player. And even though the Patriots
have Harrow Landry, they have Keon White.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
To pass on Abdul Carter at bour would be a big,
big deal.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I think NFL people that I talked to this weekend,
they view cam Ward as a sure thing. Travis Hunter
is a sure thing, Abdill Carter is a sure thing,
and then the draft becomes should be a really good player.
I don't think Shanor Sanders and most quarterbacks are viewed
as a sure thing. So the Giants are sitting there thinking, well,
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Abdul Carter's a sure thing, he's going to start day,
want to be a really good player, and they're absolutely right.
Shanur though, is a quarterback and we'll touch the ball
sixty five times a game. He'll win us games. So
I mean, the Giants have had a good d line
for years and can't sniff the playoffs. So you can
get all the defensive ends and rush ends you want.
You've got to move the change, right, you got to
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move the sticks. So it's a tough situation where the
Giants can take a sure thing but it won't change outcomes,
or they can go in a sixty to forty proposition
but it will change outcomes.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And I and this matters to me.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You start looking at this division now, Philadelphia with Jalen Hurts,
Washington with Jayden Daniels. You can't have a ham and
eggera quarterback. Right to me, you go get a Shanor Sanders.
You're get You get four or five years now to
load up the roster because you have a you have
a lot of ground to make up on Washington and Philadelphia.
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You're not doing it with Abdual Carter. Yeah, that's one
guy that's worth if he becomes a pro bowler, worth
half a point a game.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
You can get a pass rusher in free agency. It
is almost impossible to get a franchise changing quarterback other
than the draft. Now, Shandor Sanders might not be a
sure thing, but he feels Taylor made for New York,
and I know that that building, there are people in
that building that really like him.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I also think there are people in that building I've
been told it like Jackson Dark.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Yeah, yeah, Jackson Dart's also interesting. Maybe second round, maybe
you come back up the Giants. That's where the draft starts.
You said it earlier, That to me is where the
draft starts at three. Sticking with the draft, the Raiders
Pete Carroll hold a sixth overall pick and have been
heavily linked to Ashton Genty. Speaking at their pre draft
pressor GM, John Spytech was asked specifically about drafting the
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Boise State running back Thick to listen.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Ashi Gens can talk about in the top ten, pretty
much everybody's went.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
Together our draft, you think about it, Him in particular
makes it so special to where he might be be
careful one of those LEAs.
Speaker 12 (21:04):
I'm gonna be careful about talking about any specific player,
but you know, more broadly to the running back question,
I mean, we just saw Saquon Barkley just change the
Eagles in one in one year. Now they had a
great team around them, and you know it was adding
an elite player. And I think when you sit where
we said. I mean, the idea is to add elite
players at any position. Yeah, there's a lot there to
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take in.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think he made I really do. I think if
I said this last week, I did a if I
was general manager, here's who I would take. And I
think once you committed to Geno Smith and Chip Kelly,
it makes drafting Ashton Genty redeemable because Geno is a
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very capable quarterback on play action translation solid run game. Well,
the Raiders have no run game, so you got to
solve that. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they
get Ashton Genty in the first round and in the
fifth or sixth round they go get another back. So
Geno Smith is two quarterbacks. There is time to throw
with a prominent run game Gino, and this is a
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little Sam Darnold too, and then there is frenetic throwing
on third and long and then Sam and Gino become
really ordinary players. So this to me is not just
about solving running back. It's elevating Geno Smith, who you're
in a relationship with for probably two years.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
What's interesting is you go back to the Anthony Richardson year,
Pete Carroll was taking selfie's with all the quarterbacks, including
Richardson ends up taking Devon Witherspoon with a fifth pick.
This could very well be a smoke screen. You never
really know what Pete.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You just don't He loves corners, he loved cornerbacks early
in the draft.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But this might be a little high. Oh it is real,
Johnson nonsen.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, Will's not a burner, right, Will's any guys terrific?
Terrific for god, Yeah, you're not gonna put He's not
shutting people down. Will's just the best corner in this draft.
We don't have a superstar corner. We have Michigan as one,
Texas has one. They're really good players. There's a lot
of good corners, but there's no superstar. So I don't
think And I am a huge Will Johnson fan. I
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have him going nine to the Saints, but I Ashton
genty to me. You know, you could roll the dice.
I do think the Raiders would consider this. The Raiders
would consider it.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Number six is a little rich. We got to get
better as a football team. We're gonna trade down, yeah, yeah,
like maybe only to eleven and then you get another
draft pick. And you take the North Carolina running back Hampton.
I could see that if I had somebody this weekend
tell me they thought he was a better version of
Joe Mixon.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, you mentioned Hampton also, then
then you could jump right ahead of Dallas because you
worry about Dallas taking him at twelve because they need
a running back. The other part, too, is a big
part of Gino, Gino wanting to be a Raider, the
relationship with Pete.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
But also Chip Kelly.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
And if you think about Chip Kelly, he has always
loved great running backs. In fact, Lashawn's McCoy's two best
years were with Chip Kelly. They could be extremely creative
with a running game. Regardless of if the Raiders take
Genti at six, if they hold that pick, Colin, they
got to get at least one, maybe two running backs.
To your point, we talked a lot about Kaitlyn Clark
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last week a lot. Specifically, she was snubbed from Time
one hundred's most Influential lists.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Colin, you love this. We all know how influential Clark
has been in here's some more proof.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
According to fanatics, she had the second highest jersey among
selling among all basketball players behind only Steph Curry. That
put her ahead at Tatum Lebron, Michael Jordan, Wimby Luca.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
What an absolute disgrace that she was not most influential.
She should be in the top twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, I mean I said this last week. Michael Jordan
obviously was influential. But Magic and Bird get a lot
of credit for many believes saving the NBA. I don't
think they saved it, but I mean the Magic and
Bird are icons for a reason. They had a rivalry
and they played in college. So Michael didn't save the NBA.
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He elevated it. Michael made it global. But Tiger Woods,
as Jack Nicholas was getting older, you know, golf needed
a guy Tiger like doubled purses.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Like that's changing a sport.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, golf would have always survived, but guys, you know,
guys like Mark o'meira figured that out very quickly. Hey, everybody,
this dude is getting We're gonna all get rich on
this guy. And he's a great guy. So Tiger changed
a sport. Caitlyn changed a sport. They used to have
commercial flights.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
She arrived.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
They all fly now private. That's the Caitlin Clark effect.
Think about that.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
As great as Michael was, it was magic and Bird
that got you on better flights.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
You mentioned Clark two and how cool mj was.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
There isn't a confidence about Kaitlyn Clark that you just
don't see and we haven't seen in WNBA. There's a
swagger to her, not just her game, but her confidence.
And actually see some of that with Paige Becker. So
I'm really excited about where the league is going. But
the Kaitlyn Clark O mission Colin was catastrophic for any list.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, Time Magazine thought too much. Don't outthink the room. Influential.
It's influential is the word you used. She is the
most influential WNBA player and I'm not even sure who
is second.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'm not sure there is a second.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Jordan with news, Well that's the news and thanks for
stopping by the herd line.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Through the years.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I've always had a problem with six or four or
under point guards or guards that can't shoot, that are
hyper athletic Derek Rose, John Wall Westbrook. It's like okay,
I'm like, okay, you can't shoot, so you're gonna have
to score at the rim, and that means you're gonna
go up against Biggs and you're gonna get injured. And
Westbrook has been a player that's super talented but can
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drive me crazy. He doesn't have a lot of he's
got one gear, which, by the way, sometimes you need
that gear. And he's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
I would not doubt that. But it was very interesting.
Nuggets Clippers. Clippers out played him for about three quarters,
and then the Nuggets made a decision in the fourth quarter,
we're going with Russ And you got the full Russell
Westbrook experience, hero baskets, insane energy, turnovers, questionable decisions, but man,
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you got rebounding. Man, you got energy, and for a
six to four guy in a league of people that
are seven feet tall, you can't miss him. So he's
got this quality where when you watch him and he's
on your favorite team, you're holding your breath a little.
But I thought Denver needed his energy, and the coaching
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staff deserves credit. They're like, we're playing him and we're
getting him out there, and I thought he was incredibly valuable.
And again, if you run down his plays, it's a
lot of hit and miss. He was one for six
from the field in the first three quarters, and the
Denver staff is like, now we're gonna go with Russ
and this team is so Yokich dependent. It's a one
(28:18):
man show kitch that they need another gear. And I
like Jamal Murray, but he's never been an All Star.
So it sort of illustrates Denver's dilemma that there's so
much about Yokich and Murray's a good player, but he's
not a great player that they don't trust Michael Porter
(28:41):
clearly he's not getting minutes late. And so you know,
you're sitting around there like, Okay, we know Yokich is great,
who's giving us energy?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
If Jamal Murray's just a little off and we you know.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
We can't ask him to go bucket to bucket with
Harden and Kawhi, And so it's like, let's put Russ in.
And I thought, I still like the Clippers in the series,
but you gotta be fair in this business. Is that
you know players that can drive me crazy. Westbrook's rebounding
his energy, his production was absolutely necessary, and he deserves credit.
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If he doesn't play it in the fourth quarter, they
don't win that game. I really believe that they don't
win that game, and you know, again it was the
full Russell Westbrook experience. But you know, we can't always
use the hammer here. Sometimes we got to be fair.
And I don't think they win the game without him.
And I don't you know, he could play in game
two and have several key turnovers. He plays full speed
(29:38):
all the time. And I've said this in a world
of load management, Russell Westbrook is ready to go on
the floor any time you ask him.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And here's the Denver coach after the Goo win. Russ
is Russ.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
Defensively, he was absolutely incredible and he was playing free
safety out there. I thought a lot of the reasons
why the turnovers happened, even if it wasn't him for
seen it. Just the way he was roaming around and
impacting the game, you know, it is great for us.
And then offensively, you know a couple of times I
thought he attacked we maybe we could have pulled it
(30:11):
out and executed. But that's what Russ does. That's he's
going to play in attack mode. So I don't think
he's going to change after seventeen years.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, Russell Mania is perfect. He's just gonna play one speed.
He's going one hundred miles an hour. And guess what
playoff basketball is? Intense basketball, and Denver, the rest of
that offense outside of Jokic sometimes can get a little
targic and a little stale. And Russell's never stale. And
I always have believed that the really profound players in
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this league, when they're on the floor, they jump off
the TV screen.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Luca does that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You can tell when Luca's on the floor. And Russell again,
in a world of six seven, six' eight sixty nine,
guys at sixty, four he plays way above his, size
so good for. Him don't forget top of the. Hour
Daniel jeremiah stops by Where colin was? Right Where colin was? Wrong,
Boy Jimmy butler, delivered did he? Not we'll talk about
(31:09):
that coming. Up Tanklessmade simple Dot.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
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Speaker 1 (31:18):
Nba playoffs will. Continue the one series WHERE i watched
The warriors play at the end of the year and
they just looked tired and, small And steve Kurr ha
said at the, time like we need some days. Off,
well you watched a very energized team Against, houston And
houston's really really, talented but, young and The warriors game plan,
(31:41):
was don't give them any transition, points make them beat
you in the half. Court And houston. Can't now they'll
be better In game. Two houston has to be in
the half. COURT i, mean you're looking up in the third,
Quarter you're, like how many points of their how many
points of The rockets have?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thirty?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
What BUT i Thought Jimmy butler's value was on full.
Display get a, Bucket. Jimmy so in the fourth quarter
Where houston was making a, run Because Golden state dominates
the first three, quarters and all of a, sudden here
in the fourth, Quarter houston makes a. Run it's not
about getting a three From, curry it's about getting a.
Bucket you're on the. Road so they have two Guys
(32:17):
Golden state That Steve kerr trust to get a. Bucket
One's curry and One's. Butler and in the final two,
Minutes jimmy had an offensive, rebound force to turnover and
scored six. Points in, FACT i don't, know not sure
if people realize. This in the last five minutes of the,
Game Steph curry didn't score and only took one. SHOT
i think about that IF i told you, that, yeah
the game is going to get, tight they're Mugging, curry
(32:40):
he won't score and he'll take one. Shot and it
was fine because Of Jimmy butler And draymond's, great but
you can't depend On draymond. Offensively SO i think what
you Watch Steve kerr is telling you who he trusts
by who he, plays And jonathan kaminga WHO i think
(33:00):
has to play some minutes in the. Series eventually they're not.
PLAYING i didn't play against The. Clippers he didn't play
the playing. Game they don't trust. Him and it's amazing
That Jimmy butler arrived and immediately you can play or you.
Can't kerr trust, him And curry trusts. Him so the
fact That Steph curry did not score in the final
(33:20):
five minutes on the road and took one shot and
they won comfortably all you need to know About Jimmy butler's.
Influence and here he is after the.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Game we're still. YOUNG i, MEAN i Think chef is thirty,
Seven i'm thirty. Five drea's like thirty.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
Five, well we got some young guns that also get it.
Done as, well stayed in it gave up a little,
run but an end we.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Won you know something, ELSE i don't want to pick
on anybody, here but three years, ago And i've said this,
BEFORE i understand that in THE, nba you, know football
is about winning college or. Pro if you win, GAMES
i don't care what it looks like win. GAMES i,
(34:03):
mean The chiefs were much more fun to watch With Tyreek.
Hill they went back to Back Super bowls without. Him
miami's fun to. Watch they don't win, enough all, Right
so basketball is. Different the optics, matter aesthetics. Matter guys
make The hall Of fame that aren't winning. Players so
everybody When Jahn morant breaks into the, league everybody's, like,
Wow Jahn morant three years ago was a better basketball
(34:27):
player Than Aunt, edwards AND i didn't think it was necessarily.
Close Aunt edwards now is a significantly better player Than Jahn.
Morant and it shows you what focus and maturity and dedication. Does,
yeah it's. Not when they came into the, League jaw's
averaging almost twenty. Eight Anthony edwards was averaging twenty one
and couldn't. Shoot it's a totally different ballplayer. Now Aunt
(34:51):
edwards not A gm in the league that would Take
Jahn morant Over Aunt edwards And jaws, spectacular but he's
gotten worse shooting the last three. Years And aunt in
his rookie season was a guy you didn't want taking.
Threes this year he led THE nba and three pointers.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Made and that's credit To Ann.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Edwards you can see the time and the dedication and
the focus that he has put into his, game and
you can watch he is a leader of that. Team
he is the unquestioned. Leader doesn't mean he's the best,
rebounder doesn't always mean he's the best, defender but they're
giving him the ball to take a. Shot and three years,
(35:28):
ago everybody in the league would have Taken Jah. Moran
nobody in THE nba now has Taken jaw Over Ann edwards,
Again jaws. YOUNG i understand that these guys they come
into the league at nineteen twenty years. Old aunt's still
only twenty three years. Old but you got the hand
grenade thing and the grenade celebrations and the videos on
(35:50):
ig With Jahn, morant and it's Like Michael jordan got
famous most of all because he was great at. Basketball
when you worry too much about the famous celebrity. Thing
keep the thing the, thing and you can see the
time That Aunt edwards has put into. Basketball he is
(36:10):
a completely, patient, smart well, rounded, focused mature, player and
you can see that the team feeds off.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Him he's a.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Leader John moran's super, talented BUT i look at jaws
numbers over the last three, years he shoots worse every. Year,
well why you got to get in the, gym, Bro
that's what it's. About that's what this leads. About keep
the thing the. Thing AND i Watched Oklahoma city and
they're just a dysfunctional. Operation would they have been a dysfunctional?
(36:41):
Operation you, know once your star underachieves or your star
gets into, trouble the coaching staff's. Done the coaching staff
is that's like drafting a. Quarterback if it goes, sideways
everybody gets. Fired so in THE, Nba Aunt edwards he's
going to ensure guys get, contracts the front office stays the,
(37:04):
Same Chris finch gets. Extensions that's because you can see
the coaching With, ant and you can see the dedication By,
ant and it's, Again i'm not trying to take a
shot At John, morant but it's like small guys that
shoot poorly and it gets. Worse playoffs is not gonna
work now, Again Oklahoma city is really Good Oklahoma, city
(37:28):
AND i was Watching Oklahoma city hammer, them and my
takeover the weekend, is, Listen Oklahoma city may end up
being could they be a, dynasty could they do A
celtics or are they going to be kind of like
A milwaukee or A. Denver and they win a title
and they have to pay, everybody and some guys leave
or they have. Injuries But Oklahoma city's really good and really,
(37:49):
deep and they create turnovers and they don't commit many
and they got a GREAT, gm a smart young, coach
and a star IN. Sga so there's no you, know
it's not the end of the world getting club By Oklahoma.
City they blew people out all. Year they just come
in waves. Defensively but it you, know you watch that
game and you're, like, man it feels Like memphis is.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Rudderless and that's on the. Star it's just like THE.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Nfl if the quarterback, works everything else easy to you,
know you Get Jadeen daniels right with The Washington. Commanders
think how bad the commanders were for twenty. Years they
bring In new everybody and you, think, oh it takes a,
year you, know to kind of get up and running
and create a. Culture, Now Jaden daniels really good even
(38:40):
without a great, roster get to THE nfc. Championship if
the star, delivers it just makes everything easier for general, managers,
coaches assistant, coaches. Teammates you Watch, minnesota those players and
those coaches Love Ant edwards and he's brilliant as an,
athlete but he's. PATIENT i, Mean minnesota led BY i
(39:03):
think it was eleven and a. Half he only had eight.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Points he let the game come to.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Him and again that's listening to coaching that it's just
impressive to watch these young guys. COME i mean and
still only twenty three years, old so they're, kids BUT i,
mean it's by the, way this also happened earlier. Today
Cooper flag Of duke has declared for THE Nba, draft
(39:27):
which was not exactly a.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Secret he'll be the number one.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Pick it was interesting the show before, us the facility
was saying they were arguing whether he's going to be
a star or.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Not he's going to be a.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Star he's Essentially Jason tatum where HE'S b plus at.
EVERYTHING a minus at everything doesn't necessarily mean he's eight
plus at. Anything but he doesn't have a lot of
holes in his. Game play has to be maybe a
little better ballhand works as THE nba is so, fast
and But Cooper flag is going to be really. GOOD
(39:57):
i think BECAUSE i like THE, nba The, jazz The,
wizards The hornets have the best chance to get. HIM
i would trust him With Danny ainge and The jazz
historically a well run. Franchise he's going to be good
anywhere he, goes BUT i think there are certain places
that he'll really. Excel utah San, ANTONIO i kind of
(40:20):
Like chicago's young players maybe have a homer BECAUSE i
have season. Tickets But Cooper flag has announced. Today now
back to THE Nfl. Draft Jordan schultz on, today J
mack back. Tomorrow we have talked about, this and we're
doing this BECAUSE i think we're both hearing kind of
the same. Things what we're hearing Is Cam Wored, Tennessee Travis, Hunter.
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Cleveland that's. Done the draft starts with The New York
giants at number, three and as of, now this is not.
IDEAL i think they're discussions in the building on who
to take, Now Abdul carter is represented by the very
Persuasive Drew, rosenhaus who gets his guys draft at high
(41:00):
AND i think in The giants building my, Takeaway, JORDAN
i don't know what you're, hearing but you know there's
Some shador, fans there's Some Jackson dart, fans and then
there's also people saying neither one is worth the third.
PICK i would Take. Shadure what do you think? HAPPENS
i still Think Mike trinner mic on.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
My, APOLOGIES i still Think carter is the favorite to go.
Speaker 10 (41:23):
THREE i believe, That but there has been a contingent
building For Shador sanders within The giants. Building that doesn't
mean they're not gonna Take. Carter it just means that
three four days, Out shaudor is still in the. Conversation
and because of, that and because of the history With,
dion the fact that he can really.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Be a star In New, york there's a, lot a
lot to consider a.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Three, yeah it's as good As Abdul carter. Is The
giants have had a great d line for.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Years what has it?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Done? Nothing If Shador sanders was A b to A
b plus that's three more, wins, yeah or. Four let
mean take the prioritize position to me
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after a wild NBA playoff weekend NFL Draft as well.
George Schultz sitting in one hour from now.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Where Colin was right? Where Colin was wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I sat in front of a TV all weekend long,
and I will be sitting in front of a TV
next weekend all weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
On the NFL Draft, n NBA playoff. So you make
you make predictions going into the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And I may be flipping one of my predictions after
one game.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I don't want to do recency buys.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't want to overreact. But what I watched last
night from the Warriors rock it is really troubling if
you're a Houston fan. So let's start with this. I
didn't follow my own advice. I've always said in the playoffs,
just take the experience and I said, you know, the
Warriors old and tired, they're small, and I'm going to
(01:16):
take the Rockets in six or seven and they may
still win. They're easy to get enamored with. They're so twitchy,
they're so athletic. In Houston, yeah, I forgot. They can't shoot,
and three of their starters this is their first playoff series.
So they look the part when they get off the bus.
But if you take away transition points from Houston and
(01:37):
make them play half court offensive basketball, man, they look lost.
Jalen Green, what is he? Yeah, he's athletic. Congrats, it's
the NBA. Who isn't. He can't shoot, He's not up
here point guard. He can't put them at that position.
I'm n Thompson, great athlete, don't trust him shooting. I
love Shangoon, the center from Turkey. He's got got a
(02:00):
guard's touch. He's a little like Jokic feathery touch. But
you can't depend on him to beat Butler, to beat
Steph Curry, to beat Steph Kirk. Because there's a coaching
advantage with Golden State as well, and it's a prime
example like Jalen Green and Aman Thompson are a prime example,
they didn't go to college. They went to make some
money over time Elite G League and they and they.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Made some money. But what are their games? What are
their games like?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I mean I thought they both panicked. And again
they're fun to watch. But playoff basketball is half court basketball.
You don't get all the freebies because everybody's playing hard,
the coaching is better. You're playing the same team over
and over and over, so the fool's gold and easy baskets.
It doesn't work that way. Everybody is equally arrested. And
(02:49):
I watched Houston and my takeaway was, man, do they
need kd or even Devin Booker? They need buckets in
the half court set. And conversely, here are the old
Warriors state Kerr. We're not gonna play Kaminga. We don't
need the length. We're gonna stay with our small ball lineup,
no panic even in the fourth quarter, just run through
(03:10):
our sets. So both teams have an identity. But I
think Houston has to tweak their identity, and I thought
the Warriors would have to play cominga more than they
wanted to do to tweak theirs. Now Houston dominates the
offensive glass, so they're gonna win games in this series.
They played horribly in the first three quarters and that
game got down to about four points. But you see
(03:33):
how valuable playoff experience is the referees. We tell you this.
Every year playoff basketball looks different. The referees want the
players to win the games. Okay, so they swallow the whistle.
They're gonna allow physicality. All these young players looking for
the whistle. Bruh, you're not getting in the playoffs. You're
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not getting a whistle over Steph Curry or Jimmy Butler
or Dre Green.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
The veterans know how to manipulate refs. And Golden State,
by the way, is twenty and one all time when
they win the first game of a playoff series. I
was worried about the old team playing Houston Rockets' home
court advantage, size advantage, energy advantage, And then I watched
that game and my only question, now, do the Warriors
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have the stamina to get six or seven games out
of this series and then go in to another series.
Their best players are all in their mid thirties. But
and the Rockets, again, they're so big an athletic they'll
win games. And Jalen Green has to play better, although
it's very clear the coaching staff of the Rockets did
not trust Jalen Green late. They had no interest in
(04:46):
him being part of the offense. So Fred Vanvliet will
shoot better and play better. But I don't know. I
looked at this and I thought eighty five points was
a season low. And they're going to get into the nineties.
They're going to have better games there. Obviously, playoff basketball
is all about adjustments.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But Houston's got a problem again.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
They look great off the bus, but half court offense,
they're really young and what are they They're just really athletic.
And then you're watching the Warriors. Just stay patient, stay
with their sets. Every time Golden State comes down the floor. Late,
they got a good look.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You can count on one hand how many great looks
Houston got when they needed it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
In the fourth quarter. Here was Steve Kerr on Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
After he just made some amazing plays and obviously carried
us offensively.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Players win games.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's our job to, you know, to try to help
them along a little bit here and there. And I've
coached Steph Curry and Draymond Green for eleven years, so
of course, we've got a lot of playoff winds.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So I do worry about the Rockets going forward. I
may have just missed on that. Now let's talk Lakers
losing the opener of Minnesota. I'm not worried about the Lakers,
I don't think. But JJ Reddick welcomed the playoff basketball.
He didn't pull enough levers. So unlike the Rockets, the
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te Wolves can shoot. In fact, they had forty two
open threes. They just got great looks and they hit
a lot of them. But it was more about the
Lakers lack of energy and urgency and especially physicality. You
just can't waiting for the Lakers to kind of shift
into a second gear, and they never did. So Minnesota
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is a little like the Baltimore Ravens of the NFL,
where they're at their best sometimes playing ugly, really physical.
A lot of tough guys play with a ton of
physicality and energy, and it's not always pretty. You know,
the Lakers when they're at their best with Luke Lebron Austin,
it's pretty they're getting to the free throw line. But
the Lakers big three, Lucaea I scored a bunch of points.
(07:03):
He had one assist. It can't just be points. Austin
Reeves totally out of rhythm. Again, Tea Wolves beat up
on him physically, and Lebron you know, I thought he
did a job. He's kept waiting for the game to
come to him a little bit, and it's like, Bro,
you look disengaged. And so it was just ugly. And
remember the Tea Wolves have played Luca before. This is
(07:25):
a really good coaching staff. So and the other thing
that makes you wonder about the Lakers. The Lakers not
everything from the regular season carries over, but a lot does.
Like Houston didn't shoot well in the regular season. Houston
didn't shoot well yesterday. The Lakers are a bad road team.
They were sub five hundred on the road and they
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just lost home court advantage. Minnesota, like those Ravens, they
can win on the road. Why because physicality in all
sports like baseball and pitching, physicality and basketball and football travels.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
All right.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So the Minnesota is going to give you a very
consistent effort. Not to mention Aunt Edwards. You know, unlike
John Morant has grown improved, he's more refined, he's pacing
his tempo, he's a patient player.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So like maybe it's just a bad matchup for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I think we're going to get a more physical, engaged
Laker team. That's what I think. So no sign of panic.
If I'm the Rockets though this morning, I don't know
if we can beat I don't know if we can
beat the Warriors with our half court offense. The Lakers
can run, the Lakers can shoot, the Lakers can play defense.
(08:39):
But it worries your little Jackson Hayes didn't play much,
so Reddick doesn't think. He didn't give him any minutes.
And the Minnesota is big to begin with. You take
Jackson Hayes off the floor, it's like, do we got
a match up problem for the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
No reason to panic, But here is JJ Reddick.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
After we were mentally ready. I thought our spear it
was right. I thought even when they made runs, our
huddles were great. You know, the communication was great. I'm
not sure physically we were ready and if that makes sense,
And really when they started playing with a lot of
thrust and physicality, like we just didn't respond immediately to that.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
And that if you watch that game, this was an
easy one to scout if you had an assignment to
scout in the game, You're like, Minnesota took the game
to the Lakers, and they wanted to be a little ugly,
they wanted to be physical. You know, they got size,
they got tough guys. So that was totally Minnesota's game.
And then when you add in them shooting as well
(09:41):
as they did, so you know, Lebron said after it
and maybe it just takes us a game to get ready.
That's the entirely possible. Odds makers are usually not terribly wrong.
I mean, they liked the Warriors to win it. I'm
watching that game thinking, yeah, they had it right. But Fincenzo,
Julius Randall and Edwards, a lot of dudes didn't always
(10:08):
have to be pretty. But it was not only physical.
It was physical and pretty for Minnesota. So that's a
little troubling if you're a Laker fan. They played tomorrow
night in Game two. We have all sorts of stuff
that has developed. This is, of course, Draft week. Daniel Jeremiah,
fifty minutes from now, former NFL scout for three different teams.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
He's the one that label that.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
He said, it's not a star draft, it is a
starter draft. I had dinner with a NFL offensive coordinator
over the weekend. And there's a lot of good players
in this draft, a lot of good players. There's just
not a lot of star power at the top. And
we know Tennessee's taken cam Ward number two. We know
Cleveland number cam Ward's going number one in Tennessee number two.
(10:52):
Cleveland's taking Travis Hunter. The draft kind of starts with
the New York Giants, and they've done a ton of
homework on Jackson Dart and Shador Sanders. So my guess
is probably take a defensive player. I'm just guessing. I
could see if they would take Shadeur. I think I
would take Shadeur Sanders if I was the Giants, but
(11:15):
I think they would. I also think the New York
Giants because the draft's going to sort of start with
them because we know the first two picks. I think
if I was the Giants, I would take Calls and
if somebody wants Shador Sanders, and I think they should.
It's never been more of a quarterback league. There's seven
or eight teams that desperately need upgrades at quarterback, and
Tennessee's going to solve that with the first pick of
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the draft. So This is a very very fun week.
Coming up next, the best playoff series, the most even
series is Denver and the Clippers plus Cam Newton sounds
off on a decision by a young man that took
money over common sense. We'll talk about that coming up
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Speaker 1 (13:03):
So we told you a story was going to happen
last week. I think it was Wednesday or Thursday. I said,
this really talented kid, Nico Maldiava, the quarterback at Tennessee,
and he bailed on him, and.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
He said, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I told you I was told by somebody close to
the family he was going to be UCLA Brewin. Well,
it was made official yesterday.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't love the decision because Tennessee's got one hundred
and forty nine million dollars of annual revenue. They have
better coaching staff, better facilities, better players. I mean in
the SEC they've won nine plus games in three straight seasons,
so the coaching staff's pretty good. UCLA in the last
decade has won nine games once so and the market
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did not materialize when he said I want more money.
Now they're arguing. The family say it's not about money, but.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You know, it seems like, why would you leave Tennessee.
Well it's about the offense. Well, Tennessee's putting their last
couple quarterbacks in the NFL. That's all I know. Tennessee
quarterbacks end up in the NFL. Doesn't mean they end
up being as good as you know, Jaydon Daniels. But
you're playing the SCC, you get to the NFL. They're
doing something right with quarterbacks. So this feels like I
(14:19):
said it last week, quarterback dad is now pageant mom,
And this feels very much like you know, dad made
a big decision.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't love it. Cam Newton voiced his opinion on this.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
Whoever advised this kid to sit out and chase in
hopes for more money is a fool because the reality
is this, And I'll need to tell everybody about what
NIO was and is intended for. It's just to make
your college experience comfortable. This is not forever money. You
(14:57):
have to understand that, even though you're talking about me.
Billions and millions and millions of money.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
By the way, a couple million bucks in LA. Welcome
to the forty five percent tax bracket minimum. I mean
so that stuff. I mean, trust me. I live out
here a smoothie cash about sixteen bucks, a good one
Tennessee at probably Cosha is six and there's no state
tax there. So the money goes nowhere in La. Uh,
and it goes a long way. But I mean, I
(15:28):
just to me, if I'm a quarterback, if I was
coming out of high school or a young quarterback, there
are programs I would go to, and it would be
programs that put NFL offensive linemen in the NFL, like
you know, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and you know Georgia.
I'm going to a place where I get protection, where
I've got, you know, really good playmakers. So I'm not
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sitting there running for my life throwing it. Like guys
that are unrestricted free agent level guys in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That's Tennessee. That's not UCLA.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Usually LA put some guys in the NFL, but Tennessee's
we had a football program, So I wish him well.
It's certainly a big ad for Ucla, there's no question
about that. But the market did not materialize. There was
not a huge market. Belichick turned off. I talked to
another person at a top ten program, really turned off
by and this was such a public story. It's going
to stick to the kid, so he's going to have
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to really play well. A lot of this stuff, we
don't see how the sausage is made. It's kind of ugly.
This NIL stuff, it's kind of ugly, but we don't
see how. We don't really see what happens. But this
was so public that it's going to stick to the kid.
So he's going to have to be great at UCLA.
And UCLA doesn't have great talent, all right, So in
the Big ten they're I mean, I'm all throw it
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out off the top of my head.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
What are they?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
The seventh to eighth best football program Tennessee is as
well funded as anybody in the SEC that isn't a
big boy adult football program. So I don't love to move.
Chasing money is folks, even in the NFL. You don't
make real money in the NFL to your second contract,
and Cam points out this is not forever money in
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the NIL. It's to make college more reasonable and more
comfortable and pizzas on me. If you're looking to get
rich in college and you're just gonna take the biggest check,
I think most of the time that's not going to
be that's not going to be the right fit. The
football is about fit and about coaching and about support systems,
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not just about get me mine. You know, talk to
guys who have played in good organizations like the Eagles
and the Packers and the Rams, and they go chase
money in free agency.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Go ask them how happy they are? Right, it's it's
not Jordan with news.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
No no heard on the news.
Speaker 9 (17:43):
This is the headline news on the NFL draft kicks
off Thursday, and one of the biggest question marks is
in the top five whether the Browns and Giants will
both pass on taking a quarterback now.
Speaker 10 (17:57):
According to Daniel, Daniel Jeremiah will be on the show today.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It's almost a game of.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
Chicken of who's going to pay the biggest price and
how much they love one of these quarterbacks. Reference Giants
have Danny, Tommy Devido, James Winston, Russell Wilson, Browns obviously Deshaun,
Joe Flacko, Canny Pickett.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Now I believe that should.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
The Giants pass, should the Giants take should Or Sanders
and pass on Abdul Carter.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I believe the Patriots would then take.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
Abdull Carter at four because I know they really like
Will Campbell. They've done a lot of homework on him,
the offensive tackle out at LSU. But Abdill Carter is
viewed as a generational player. And even though the Patriots
have Harrow Landry, they have Keon White.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
To pass on Abdul Carter at bour would be a big,
big deal.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I think NFL people that I talked to this weekend,
they view cam Ward as a sure thing. Travis Hunter
is a sure thing, Abdill Carter is a sure thing,
and then the draft becomes should be a really good player.
I don't think Shanor Sanders and most quarterbacks are viewed
as a sure thing. So the Giants are sitting there thinking, well,
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Abdul Carter's a sure thing, he's going to start day,
want to be a really good player, and they're absolutely right.
Shanur though, is a quarterback and we'll touch the ball
sixty five times a game. He'll win us games. So
I mean, the Giants have had a good d line
for years and can't sniff the playoffs. So you can
get all the defensive ends and rush ends you want.
You've got to move the change, right, you got to
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move the sticks. So it's a tough situation where the
Giants can take a sure thing but it won't change outcomes,
or they can go in a sixty to forty proposition
but it will change outcomes.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And I and this matters to me.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You start looking at this division now, Philadelphia with Jalen Hurts,
Washington with Jayden Daniels. You can't have a ham and
eggera quarterback. Right to me, you go get a Shanor Sanders.
You're get You get four or five years now to
load up the roster because you have a you have
a lot of ground to make up on Washington and Philadelphia.
(20:01):
You're not doing it with Abdual Carter. Yeah, that's one
guy that's worth if he becomes a pro bowler, worth
half a point a game.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
You can get a pass rusher in free agency. It
is almost impossible to get a franchise changing quarterback other
than the draft. Now, Shandor Sanders might not be a
sure thing, but he feels Taylor made for New York,
and I know that that building, there are people in
that building that really like him.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I also think there are people in that building I've
been told it like Jackson Dark.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
Yeah, yeah, Jackson Dart's also interesting. Maybe second round, maybe
you come back up the Giants. That's where the draft starts.
You said it earlier, That to me is where the
draft starts at three. Sticking with the draft, the Raiders
Pete Carroll hold a sixth overall pick and have been
heavily linked to Ashton Genty. Speaking at their pre draft
pressor GM, John Spytech was asked specifically about drafting the
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Boise State running back Thick to listen.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Ashi Gens can talk about in the top ten, pretty
much everybody's went.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
Together our draft, you think about it, Him in particular
makes it so special to where he might be be
careful one of those LEAs.
Speaker 12 (21:04):
I'm gonna be careful about talking about any specific player,
but you know, more broadly to the running back question,
I mean, we just saw Saquon Barkley just change the
Eagles in one in one year. Now they had a
great team around them, and you know it was adding
an elite player. And I think when you sit where
we said. I mean, the idea is to add elite
players at any position. Yeah, there's a lot there to
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take in.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think he made I really do. I think if
I said this last week, I did a if I
was general manager, here's who I would take. And I
think once you committed to Geno Smith and Chip Kelly,
it makes drafting Ashton Genty redeemable because Geno is a
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very capable quarterback on play action translation solid run game. Well,
the Raiders have no run game, so you got to
solve that. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they
get Ashton Genty in the first round and in the
fifth or sixth round they go get another back. So
Geno Smith is two quarterbacks. There is time to throw
with a prominent run game Gino, and this is a
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little Sam Darnold too, and then there is frenetic throwing
on third and long and then Sam and Gino become
really ordinary players. So this to me is not just
about solving running back. It's elevating Geno Smith, who you're
in a relationship with for probably two years.
Speaker 10 (22:27):
What's interesting is you go back to the Anthony Richardson year,
Pete Carroll was taking selfie's with all the quarterbacks, including
Richardson ends up taking Devon Witherspoon with a fifth pick.
This could very well be a smoke screen. You never
really know what Pete.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You just don't He loves corners, he loved cornerbacks early
in the draft.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
But this might be a little high. Oh it is real,
Johnson nonsen.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, Will's not a burner, right, Will's any guys terrific?
Terrific for god, Yeah, you're not gonna put He's not
shutting people down. Will's just the best corner in this draft.
We don't have a superstar corner. We have Michigan as one,
Texas has one. They're really good players. There's a lot
of good corners, but there's no superstar. So I don't
think And I am a huge Will Johnson fan. I
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have him going nine to the Saints, but I Ashton
genty to me. You know, you could roll the dice.
I do think the Raiders would consider this. The Raiders
would consider it.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Number six is a little rich. We got to get
better as a football team. We're gonna trade down, yeah, yeah,
like maybe only to eleven and then you get another
draft pick. And you take the North Carolina running back Hampton.
I could see that if I had somebody this weekend
tell me they thought he was a better version of
Joe Mixon.
Speaker 10 (23:45):
Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, you mentioned Hampton also, then
then you could jump right ahead of Dallas because you
worry about Dallas taking him at twelve because they need
a running back. The other part, too, is a big
part of Gino, Gino wanting to be a Raider, the
relationship with Pete.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
But also Chip Kelly.
Speaker 10 (24:02):
And if you think about Chip Kelly, he has always
loved great running backs. In fact, Lashawn's McCoy's two best
years were with Chip Kelly. They could be extremely creative
with a running game. Regardless of if the Raiders take
Genti at six, if they hold that pick, Colin, they
got to get at least one, maybe two running backs.
To your point, we talked a lot about Kaitlyn Clark
(24:22):
last week a lot. Specifically, she was snubbed from Time
one hundred's most Influential lists.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Colin, you love this. We all know how influential Clark
has been in here's some more proof.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
According to fanatics, she had the second highest jersey among
selling among all basketball players behind only Steph Curry. That
put her ahead at Tatum Lebron, Michael Jordan, Wimby Luca.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
What an absolute disgrace that she was not most influential.
She should be in the top twenty.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Yeah, I mean I said this last week. Michael Jordan
obviously was influential. But Magic and Bird get a lot
of credit for many believes saving the NBA. I don't
think they saved it, but I mean the Magic and
Bird are icons for a reason. They had a rivalry
and they played in college. So Michael didn't save the NBA.
(25:17):
He elevated it. Michael made it global. But Tiger Woods,
as Jack Nicholas was getting older, you know, golf needed
a guy Tiger like doubled purses.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Like that's changing a sport.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, golf would have always survived, but guys, you know,
guys like Mark o'meira figured that out very quickly. Hey, everybody,
this dude is getting We're gonna all get rich on
this guy. And he's a great guy. So Tiger changed
a sport. Caitlyn changed a sport. They used to have
commercial flights.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
She arrived.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
They all fly now private. That's the Caitlin Clark effect.
Think about that.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
As great as Michael was, it was magic and Bird
that got you on better flights.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
You mentioned Clark two and how cool mj was.
Speaker 10 (26:04):
There isn't a confidence about Kaitlyn Clark that you just
don't see and we haven't seen in WNBA. There's a
swagger to her, not just her game, but her confidence.
And actually see some of that with Paige Becker. So
I'm really excited about where the league is going. But
the Kaitlyn Clark O mission Colin was catastrophic for any list.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, Time Magazine thought too much. Don't outthink the room. Influential.
It's influential is the word you used. She is the
most influential WNBA player and I'm not even sure who
is second.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I'm not sure there is a second.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Jordan with news, Well that's the news and thanks for
stopping by the herd line.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Through the years.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I've always had a problem with six or four or
under point guards or guards that can't shoot, that are
hyper athletic Derek Rose, John Wall Westbrook. It's like okay,
I'm like, okay, you can't shoot, so you're gonna have
to score at the rim, and that means you're gonna
go up against Biggs and you're gonna get injured. And
Westbrook has been a player that's super talented but can
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drive me crazy. He doesn't have a lot of he's
got one gear, which, by the way, sometimes you need
that gear. And he's gonna be a Hall of Famer.
I would not doubt that. But it was very interesting.
Nuggets Clippers. Clippers out played him for about three quarters,
and then the Nuggets made a decision in the fourth quarter,
we're going with Russ And you got the full Russell
Westbrook experience, hero baskets, insane energy, turnovers, questionable decisions, but man,
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you got rebounding. Man, you got energy, and for a
six to four guy in a league of people that
are seven feet tall, you can't miss him. So he's
got this quality where when you watch him and he's
on your favorite team, you're holding your breath a little.
But I thought Denver needed his energy, and the coaching
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staff deserves credit. They're like, we're playing him and we're
getting him out there, and I thought he was incredibly valuable.
And again, if you run down his plays, it's a
lot of hit and miss. He was one for six
from the field in the first three quarters, and the
Denver staff is like, now we're gonna go with Russ
and this team is so Yokich dependent. It's a one
(28:18):
man show kitch that they need another gear. And I
like Jamal Murray, but he's never been an All Star.
So it sort of illustrates Denver's dilemma that there's so
much about Yokich and Murray's a good player, but he's
not a great player that they don't trust Michael Porter
(28:41):
clearly he's not getting minutes late. And so you know,
you're sitting around there like, Okay, we know Yokich is great,
who's giving us energy?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
If Jamal Murray's just a little off and we you know.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
We can't ask him to go bucket to bucket with
Harden and Kawhi, And so it's like, let's put Russ in.
And I thought, I still like the Clippers in the series,
but you gotta be fair in this business. Is that
you know players that can drive me crazy. Westbrook's rebounding
his energy, his production was absolutely necessary, and he deserves credit.
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If he doesn't play it in the fourth quarter, they
don't win that game. I really believe that they don't
win that game, and you know, again it was the
full Russell Westbrook experience. But you know, we can't always
use the hammer here. Sometimes we got to be fair.
And I don't think they win the game without him.
And I don't you know, he could play in game
two and have several key turnovers. He plays full speed
(29:38):
all the time. And I've said this in a world
of load management, Russell Westbrook is ready to go on
the floor any time you ask him.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And here's the Denver coach after the Goo win. Russ
is Russ.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
Defensively, he was absolutely incredible and he was playing free
safety out there. I thought a lot of the reasons
why the turnovers happened, even if it wasn't him for
seen it. Just the way he was roaming around and
impacting the game, you know, it is great for us.
And then offensively, you know a couple of times I
thought he attacked we maybe we could have pulled it
(30:11):
out and executed. But that's what Russ does. That's he's
going to play in attack mode. So I don't think
he's going to change after seventeen years.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, Russell Mania is perfect. He's just gonna play one speed.
He's going one hundred miles an hour. And guess what
playoff basketball is? Intense basketball, and Denver, the rest of
that offense outside of Jokic sometimes can get a little
targic and a little stale. And Russell's never stale. And
I always have believed that the really profound players in
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this league, when they're on the floor, they jump off
the TV screen.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Luca does that.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
You can tell when Luca's on the floor. And Russell again,
in a world of six seven, six' eight sixty nine,
guys at sixty, four he plays way above his, size
so good for. Him don't forget top of the. Hour
Daniel jeremiah stops by Where colin was? Right Where colin was? Wrong,
Boy Jimmy butler, delivered did he? Not we'll talk about
(31:09):
that coming. Up Tanklessmade simple Dot.
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Speaker 1 (31:18):
Nba playoffs will. Continue the one series WHERE i watched
The warriors play at the end of the year and
they just looked tired and, small And steve Kurr ha
said at the, time like we need some days. Off,
well you watched a very energized team Against, houston And
houston's really really, talented but, young and The warriors game plan,
(31:41):
was don't give them any transition, points make them beat
you in the half. Court And houston. Can't now they'll
be better In game. Two houston has to be in
the half. COURT i, mean you're looking up in the third,
Quarter you're, like how many points of their how many
points of The rockets have?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thirty?
Speaker 1 (31:55):
What BUT i Thought Jimmy butler's value was on full.
Display get a, Bucket. Jimmy so in the fourth quarter
Where houston was making a, run Because Golden state dominates
the first three, quarters and all of a, sudden here
in the fourth, Quarter houston makes a. Run it's not
about getting a three From, curry it's about getting a.
Bucket you're on the. Road so they have two Guys
(32:17):
Golden state That Steve kerr trust to get a. Bucket
One's curry and One's. Butler and in the final two,
Minutes jimmy had an offensive, rebound force to turnover and
scored six. Points in, FACT i don't, know not sure
if people realize. This in the last five minutes of the,
Game Steph curry didn't score and only took one. SHOT
i think about that IF i told you, that, yeah
the game is going to get, tight they're Mugging, curry
(32:40):
he won't score and he'll take one. Shot and it
was fine because Of Jimmy butler And draymond's, great but
you can't depend On draymond. Offensively SO i think what
you Watch Steve kerr is telling you who he trusts
by who he, plays And jonathan kaminga WHO i think
(33:00):
has to play some minutes in the. Series eventually they're not.
PLAYING i didn't play against The. Clippers he didn't play
the playing. Game they don't trust. Him and it's amazing
That Jimmy butler arrived and immediately you can play or you.
Can't kerr trust, him And curry trusts. Him so the
fact That Steph curry did not score in the final
(33:20):
five minutes on the road and took one shot and
they won comfortably all you need to know About Jimmy butler's.
Influence and here he is after the.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Game we're still. YOUNG i, MEAN i Think chef is thirty,
Seven i'm thirty. Five drea's like thirty.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
Five, well we got some young guns that also get it.
Done as, well stayed in it gave up a little,
run but an end we.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Won you know something, ELSE i don't want to pick
on anybody, here but three years, ago And i've said this,
BEFORE i understand that in THE, nba you, know football
is about winning college or. Pro if you win, GAMES
i don't care what it looks like win. GAMES i,
(34:03):
mean The chiefs were much more fun to watch With Tyreek.
Hill they went back to Back Super bowls without. Him
miami's fun to. Watch they don't win, enough all, Right
so basketball is. Different the optics, matter aesthetics. Matter guys
make The hall Of fame that aren't winning. Players so
everybody When Jahn morant breaks into the, league everybody's, like,
Wow Jahn morant three years ago was a better basketball
(34:27):
player Than Aunt, edwards AND i didn't think it was necessarily.
Close Aunt edwards now is a significantly better player Than Jahn.
Morant and it shows you what focus and maturity and dedication. Does,
yeah it's. Not when they came into the, League jaw's
averaging almost twenty. Eight Anthony edwards was averaging twenty one
and couldn't. Shoot it's a totally different ballplayer. Now Aunt
(34:51):
edwards not A gm in the league that would Take
Jahn morant Over Aunt edwards And jaws, spectacular but he's
gotten worse shooting the last three. Years And aunt in
his rookie season was a guy you didn't want taking.
Threes this year he led THE nba and three pointers.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Made and that's credit To Ann.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Edwards you can see the time and the dedication and
the focus that he has put into his, game and
you can watch he is a leader of that. Team
he is the unquestioned. Leader doesn't mean he's the best,
rebounder doesn't always mean he's the best, defender but they're
giving him the ball to take a. Shot and three years,
(35:28):
ago everybody in the league would have Taken Jah. Moran
nobody in THE nba now has Taken jaw Over Ann edwards,
Again jaws. YOUNG i understand that these guys they come
into the league at nineteen twenty years. Old aunt's still
only twenty three years. Old but you got the hand
grenade thing and the grenade celebrations and the videos on
(35:50):
ig With Jahn, morant and it's Like Michael jordan got
famous most of all because he was great at. Basketball
when you worry too much about the famous celebrity. Thing
keep the thing the, thing and you can see the
time That Aunt edwards has put into. Basketball he is
(36:10):
a completely, patient, smart well, rounded, focused mature, player and
you can see that the team feeds off.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Him he's a.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Leader John moran's super, talented BUT i look at jaws
numbers over the last three, years he shoots worse every. Year,
well why you got to get in the, gym, Bro
that's what it's. About that's what this leads. About keep
the thing the. Thing AND i Watched Oklahoma city and
they're just a dysfunctional. Operation would they have been a dysfunctional?
(36:41):
Operation you, know once your star underachieves or your star
gets into, trouble the coaching staff's. Done the coaching staff
is that's like drafting a. Quarterback if it goes, sideways
everybody gets. Fired so in THE, Nba Aunt edwards he's
going to ensure guys get, contracts the front office stays the,
(37:04):
Same Chris finch gets. Extensions that's because you can see
the coaching With, ant and you can see the dedication By,
ant and it's, Again i'm not trying to take a
shot At John, morant but it's like small guys that
shoot poorly and it gets. Worse playoffs is not gonna
work now, Again Oklahoma city is really Good Oklahoma, city
(37:28):
AND i was Watching Oklahoma city hammer, them and my
takeover the weekend, is, Listen Oklahoma city may end up
being could they be a, dynasty could they do A
celtics or are they going to be kind of like
A milwaukee or A. Denver and they win a title
and they have to pay, everybody and some guys leave
or they have. Injuries But Oklahoma city's really good and really,
(37:49):
deep and they create turnovers and they don't commit many
and they got a GREAT, gm a smart young, coach
and a star IN. Sga so there's no you, know
it's not the end of the world getting club By Oklahoma.
City they blew people out all. Year they just come
in waves. Defensively but it you, know you watch that
game and you're, like, man it feels Like memphis is.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Rudderless and that's on the. Star it's just like THE.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Nfl if the quarterback, works everything else easy to you,
know you Get Jadeen daniels right with The Washington. Commanders
think how bad the commanders were for twenty. Years they
bring In new everybody and you, think, oh it takes a,
year you, know to kind of get up and running
and create a. Culture, Now Jaden daniels really good even
(38:40):
without a great, roster get to THE nfc. Championship if
the star, delivers it just makes everything easier for general, managers,
coaches assistant, coaches. Teammates you Watch, minnesota those players and
those coaches Love Ant edwards and he's brilliant as an,
athlete but he's. PATIENT i, Mean minnesota led BY i
(39:03):
think it was eleven and a. Half he only had eight.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Points he let the game come to.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Him and again that's listening to coaching that it's just
impressive to watch these young guys. COME i mean and
still only twenty three years, old so they're, kids BUT i,
mean it's by the, way this also happened earlier. Today
Cooper flag Of duke has declared for THE Nba, draft
(39:27):
which was not exactly a.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Secret he'll be the number one.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Pick it was interesting the show before, us the facility
was saying they were arguing whether he's going to be
a star or.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Not he's going to be a.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Star he's Essentially Jason tatum where HE'S b plus at.
EVERYTHING a minus at everything doesn't necessarily mean he's eight
plus at. Anything but he doesn't have a lot of
holes in his. Game play has to be maybe a
little better ballhand works as THE nba is so, fast
and But Cooper flag is going to be really. GOOD
(39:57):
i think BECAUSE i like THE, nba The, jazz The,
wizards The hornets have the best chance to get. HIM
i would trust him With Danny ainge and The jazz
historically a well run. Franchise he's going to be good
anywhere he, goes BUT i think there are certain places
that he'll really. Excel utah San, ANTONIO i kind of
(40:20):
Like chicago's young players maybe have a homer BECAUSE i
have season. Tickets But Cooper flag has announced. Today now
back to THE Nfl. Draft Jordan schultz on, today J
mack back. Tomorrow we have talked about, this and we're
doing this BECAUSE i think we're both hearing kind of
the same. Things what we're hearing Is Cam Wored, Tennessee Travis, Hunter.
(40:40):
Cleveland that's. Done the draft starts with The New York
giants at number, three and as of, now this is not.
IDEAL i think they're discussions in the building on who
to take, Now Abdul carter is represented by the very
Persuasive Drew, rosenhaus who gets his guys draft at high
(41:00):
AND i think in The giants building my, Takeaway, JORDAN
i don't know what you're, hearing but you know there's
Some shador, fans there's Some Jackson dart, fans and then
there's also people saying neither one is worth the third.
PICK i would Take. Shadure what do you think? HAPPENS
i still Think Mike trinner mic on.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
My, APOLOGIES i still Think carter is the favorite to go.
Speaker 10 (41:23):
THREE i believe, That but there has been a contingent
building For Shador sanders within The giants. Building that doesn't
mean they're not gonna Take. Carter it just means that
three four days, Out shaudor is still in the. Conversation
and because of, that and because of the history With,
dion the fact that he can really.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Be a star In New, york there's a, lot a
lot to consider a.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Three, yeah it's as good As Abdul carter. Is The
giants have had a great d line for.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Years what has it?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Done? Nothing If Shador sanders was A b to A
b plus that's three more, wins, yeah or. Four let
mean take the prioritize position to me
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