April 22, 2025 • 32 mins
Mayor Karen Bass highlighted what she called the record pace of rebuilding fire-devastated Pacific Palisades. The entertainment industry is moving away from Hollywood. Jury deliberations underway in the retrial of Orange County judge accused of murdering his wife. Karen Read 2nd Trial Begins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Karen Reid's second murder trial is
back in action today. The big change is the prosecutor
first time around. If you paid attention, and a lot
of the country did, if you paid attention to the prosecutor,
(00:22):
I feel badly for saying this, but he was awful.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
He sucked.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
He was not succinct, He showed no sort of demonstrative
argument at all. He was very weak, extreme poor time management.
Just it was awful. It was like a masterclass on
how not to prosecute a case. According to at least
the Max documentary that I watched, that was a pretty
exhaustive dive into the first trial. But the new prosecutor
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is somebody who defended Whitey Bulger. I mean, yeah, new
prosecutor defended Whitey Bulger. He has experience in high profile cases.
So that goes without saying with that caveat, but he
also is out of the gate sounding much better, and
it's going to be a much bigger road to hoe
for Alan Jackson, who is her attorney, who was a
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prosecutor here in La County covered a lot of prosecuted
a lot of profile cases in his own right. But
it seems like this prosecutor is zeroing in on Karen
Reid's own words that she killed her police officer boyfriend
three years ago after a night of heavy drinking, and
that the first firefighter on the scene heard her say
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the words I hit him, I hit him, I hit him,
And they're going to focus on that. And of course,
her defense maintains that she left that house, she did
not hit him, that he got into it with some
of his cop buddies and maybe got into a fight
with them. They left him ount in the snow. He
froze and died. So that's the alternative story there. But again,
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another jury seated. As we roll the dice and see
what they decide about Karen Reid's faith.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We'll talk more about it later this hour too, because
it's just a fascinating case. Yesterday's State of the City
was delivered by Mayor Karen Back.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
This is about all of us. It's about choosing to
believe in each other again and the future of the
city that we love.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Hey, I never stopped believing in people around here. I
stopped believing in you when you saw that a ridiculously
awful fire forecast for your city and took off on
your plan trip. I felt like I didn't believe in
you after you heard about what was going on and
didn't cut your trip short and went.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
To cocktail hour.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
She did say that the recovery that we're seeing in
the Palisades is the fastest in the history of cal
orn Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The recovery in the Palisades is on track to be
the fastest in Calilifornia history.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Because they have money, Karen, That's what happens when rich
people lose their s, they re build very quickly.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Look at what's going on in Alta, Dina.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I know that's not her jurisdiction, but she's damn lucky
this happened in the Palisades because they can rebuild, they
can hire the people to cut through the red tape
that she says she cut herself.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, in all honesty, the money amplifies their voice. There's
that too. Makes they have connections in city hall.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That is not a victory lap thing that you can take.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It's a frustrating victory lap. I don't know, maybe not
a victory lap.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean she is that her breaking down the word
California is her taking a victory lap over the fact
that people have enough money to rebuild quickly.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
That is a weird way to say it, Isn't.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It fastest in California?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Cala forty Like she's trying to make a very important
point there and it doesn't go back to her.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, I don't know who she's comparing it to the
fastest recovery, And how do you measure something.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What Paradise where that town was wiped out, just like
the way it was in the Palisades, where everyone's retired
and has no income to rebuild, where the towns are
poor and bankrupt and they have no money to rebuild
their town centers.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
She did acknowledge that outside of the slivers of hope
that we've seen emerging from the recovery in the Palisades,
there is bad news.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
The reality is our city faces a more than an
eight hundred million dollar deficit. My proposed budget unfortunately includ's layoffs,
which is a decision of absolute last resort.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
The I just don't And she's a practice politician, she'd
been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I just don't believe her when she speaks. I don't
know who that person is.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Well, think about.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
This fire situation outside of the budget deficit. The fire situation,
I think is a weighted backpack for her going into
whatever reelection she thinks she's going to mount. And I
know there are people who will support her who say
that she's getting the short end of the stick here
who said that this is there's nothing that she would
have done had she not gone to Ghana. There's nothing
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she would have been able to prepare for for that fire.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We don't hire a mayor for your trip to Ghana.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I don't know how many times.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I gotta say it, Police, fire roads, trash. You got
to hit all four You got to hit all four
of those bases, and then you get your victory lap
to home plate. You don't get police, fire roads and trash,
you're screwed on this level of politics. I know she
comes from Sacramento, where everything's very nuanced and vague.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Here it's very clear. On a city level.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Make sure we have enough police, make sure our firefighters
department are well staffed, fix the damn roads, and take
out the trash without hiking our fees.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
How hard is that it seems very simple, No, what
are you doing in Ghana?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
For Christ's sakes?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, remember she was there because the Biden administration had
asked her to go. It's okay to say no, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
To say I've got s at home. I need to
deal with maybe next year.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
One of the things she did talk about was the
potential for a hike in the film tax credit locally
and through the state. And that's actually an interesting issue
because Trump has picked a handful of guys to be
his ambassadors for what he wants to see as sort
of the new Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
We'll talk about what who those people are, what they're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know about this. I'm gonna come back.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
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When's the last time you checked on your medication?
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Speaker 3 (07:23):
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We were talking about the Boston Marathon. Did you hear
about the half marathon in Beijing, China? Sounds smoggy, It
sounds roboty. Oh, thousands of robots, humanoid robots ran alongside
actual humans in this half marathon and the Chinese capital.
Bipedal robots of various makes and sizes navigated the thirteen
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point one mile course on Saturday, support by teams of
human navigators, operators and engineers VET organizers, calling it a
first that is creepy as hell.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I don't even want to see pictures of that. We
mentioned Carabas in the State of the city. One of
the things that she had suggested was that we need
to win back our entertainment jobs. Gavin Newsom has proposed
hiking our tax incentives up to seven hundred and fifty
million dollars starting in July. There are a couple of
bills in the legislature that would make those increases possible,
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expanding the base credit from twenty to thirty five percent
qualified productions, and then expanding what kind of productions would
be qualified, including sitcoms and animation.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Not just not just movies.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And right before he was inaugurated, President Trump named John Voight,
Sylvester Stallone, and Mel Gibson to be his special ambassadors
to Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The Eyes and Ears and I will get done what
they suggest, Trump wrot on his Truth social platform. He
said at the time, Hollywood had lost much business over
the last four years to foreign countries and that these
three guys will help bring it back bigger, better, stronger
than ever before.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The way the La Times writes this up is basically
that these three guys have done nothing. Now the La
Times is probably not going to go out and do
the actual legwork to talk to Sylvester Stallone, John Voyd
and Mel Gibson and ask them about what they're doing.
A spokesperson for the California Film Commission said that their
executive director, Colleen Bell, did have conversations with John Voyd,
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but didn't talk about the discussion. Another one involved with
the Mayor's Entertainment Task Force, who did say that they
were not aware of any contact with.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
These three guys.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Motion Picture Association said declined to comment altogether as to
whether or not they'd had any interaction with these ambassadors.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
As the president got to give it time.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know Rocky lost in the first movie.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Mel GiB you're Mel Gibson. Most recently when we talked
about him, was leading the race on the Republican side
for governor of California. Yeah, some sort of baby poll.
I think it was a gallop pole.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Ben Affleck, because we all go to him. Ben Affleck
had said in an interview last week while he's promoting
his new Accountant to movie, He said, I think part
of the problem with California is they came to take
this industry for granted a little bit. Now, I would
take off the a little bit on the end there,
because think about how the state, the more local governments
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have been dealing with the film and TV industry in California.
Not only was it punched squarely in the face by
the government when it came to COVID and the incredible
amount of restrictions that were placed on it, not just
by the state and local health agencies, but by the unions.
The unions strangled production because they demanded so much protection,
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so much of this, so much of that, so many
safety officers, all of the stuff that just got gummed
into the works that slowed down film and TV in
this and then you had the writer strike and then
you had the actors strike. So I'm not saying that
the pain is not some of it is self inflicted.
But to get this thing back up and running, the
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state and local governments have to take a significant step,
and tax incentives is one of the ways to do that.
I mean, other states Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, Texas, they
are all new Mexico is another one. They are all
handing money handover fist to these production companies to set
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up shop in those states and then out of the
country too, you know, places like there was a big
article about how the new Rob Low game.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Show is called the Floor I think is what it's called.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
They it's cheaper for them to fly Rob Low and
one hundred contestants to Ireland to film that show. Then
it is for them to do it at one of
the thousands of sound stages here in LA.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And I've got to say, just based on things like
the Ransom Canyon show I was talking about yesterday on Netflix,
it's filmed in Albuquerque. It's beautiful to watch shows that
are filmed elsewhere and not on a sound stage.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
There's a lot of beautiful parts of this country, and
they're making it cheaper to shoot there. Why not let
alone Ireland?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
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Speaker 5 (13:51):
A couple of we'll go to the legal desk when
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It's legal briefs. It's not.
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Speaker 3 (14:33):
A new report from the International Monetary Funds is the
global economy is going to slow down sharply this year.
They put the blame on President Trump's tariff war and
the uncertainty that comes with the terrorists. Global growth, according
to the IMF, will down shift to an annual rate
of two point eight percent. That is half a percentage
point lower than was projected in January and what they
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term a significant slowdown. After yesterday's big sell off, guess
what today a big jump on Wall Street. The Dow
is up six hundred and eighty points right now, SMP
five hundred is up about a percent and a half.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Nasdaq is also up two percent. Gold.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
By the way, gold went over thirty five hundred dollars
an ounce. It's down a little bit. It's pulled back
from that at about thirty four to eighteen an ounce
right now.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Coming up in the twelve o'clock hour True Crime Tuesday.
This story today is about a woman from California who
has shocked the Internet claiming that she is the daughter
of a serial killer. She claims her dad killed about
four hundred people. Obviously, this has created a frenzy online.
We'll dive into it for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
We've told you before about the case of Jeffrey Ferguson,
an Orange County Superior Court judge who shot and killed
his wife during an argument. That part is not under discussion.
The question is was it an accidental shooting, was it
a careless shooting, or was it an act of murder.
This was an argument that he had with his wife
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in their home in Anaheim Hills, which, weirdly, their adult son.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
It's not weird that their adult son was there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's weird that all of the specifics that went on
while this was going on, and they were watching the
television show Breaking Bad the detail, so I didn't see
that either before. So the original trial he described this
is Judge Jeffrey Ferguson. He described the glock pistol that
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he keeps in an ankle holster almost all the time.
Both his wife's son, he they all said he keeps
this thing on him almost all the time. He described
during an argument fumbling with the gun while he's trying
to pull it out of his ankle holster and put
it on the table, and that when he did that,
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some combination of tripping and his shoulder giving out him
to accidentally pull the trigger and the gun went off
and his wife was killed.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Is he not leaning into the seventy five margheritas he
had because he wants to preserve his role as a judge.
I mean why, it's just a question from a label.
But even if why, woult you lean into that? We
had drinks before dinner. We had dinner, had a couple
of margaritas. That's when things got heated. We started fighting,
as the evidence shows came back.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We were fighting some more.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm putting my gun away, I'm drunk, and it goes off.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
But then manslaughter, right, sure, murder. Would he be allowed
to stay on the bench with a manslaughter conviction?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
No, So in this retrial, same description by the way,
that that it was an accident. If it was an accident,
I mean pure accident. No crime was committed, that's according
to the defense. But you could be careless, you could
be negligent, and those are the things that are going
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to go into play here. The previous jury, we mentioned that,
this is the second jury. Just yesterday they went to
they got the case. So they're deliberating. The previous jury
deliberated nine days.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Can we just take a moment and have a judge
Eleanor Hunter appreciation moment. When I heard that this case
was in the hands of a new jury this quickly,
I was like, what justice is not swift and not
in California. The fact that they retried this thing as
quickly as they did is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
This isn't a hugely different case than the other jury got,
and that first jury ended deadlocked eleven to one in
favor of the second Yeah, in favor of second degree murder.
The one holdout in that first jury wanted involuntary manslaughter.
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So if you're the prosecution, if you're Orange County DA's office,
you think there's off, Oh yeah, we're gonna get we
got this Where this is that one holdout that wants
involuntary manslaughter. That's you know, that's probably an outlier they're hoping.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So they it might be it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Might be ten to two this time around.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Though that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You know, the deputy DA that's trying this for Orange
County said that there could be two ways the jurors
come to that second degree murder conviction. One is that
he intentionally fired the fatal shot, or instead that he
handled the gun while drunk and was acting with reckless
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disregard for his wife's safety, and again they were arguing.
She brought up the issue of the gun. She knew
that he had it with him, she referred to it
in the argument.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I think she asked for it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Why don't you point a real gun at me or something,
use his fingers finger. That does not make it okay
to shoot and kill somebody. The other thing is, what
are the odds? What are the odds it's somebody who's
had a permit for a concealed weapon for what thirty
years plus?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I think.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Just happens to in somebody who drinks on the regular.
I'm basing that off of just me profiling one of
the odds that he takes his gun out of his
holster and it accidentally goes off, shoots and kills his wife.
That's a pretty darn crazy thing to have happened. A
lot of people are taking their gun out and it
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accidentally goes off unless you're pointing it at the person.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It's just very rare.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know, look at what ru instead of rust, he's
pointing it at her.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know, you've got to you don't just like take
your gun out and it just happens to go off
and fire into the person that you happen to be
arguing with at that time.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
That's what I don't quite get.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
If you take a gun out and you put it
on if I took my gun out and I put
it on this desk right here, whether I was doing
it to threaten you or just go, hey, look at
the shiny new gun I got, How.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Does it go?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean, there's the if you're just looking at if
it's a two dimensional space, right, there's three hundred and
sixty degrees of pointing that I could the muzzle of
this gun could be pointed. Well, I'm certainly not going
to point it at myself because I'm not dumb. I
hope I wouldn't point it at you because I wouldn't
want it to go off. How in the world is
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it just a chance that it's pointed in exactly the
right direction? That's the part that yeah. I mean, like
you said, this guy's had weapons forever. Now, that doesn't
guarantee that he knows what he's doing, or that he
practices you know, regular simple gun safety, which is the
hot end, is always dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
He's wearing his.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Gun enough to wear it to dinner at the Mexican
restaurant and holster. He's used to having his firearm on him.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah, and come on, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He got drunk, she was being a bee shot and
killed her.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Jury is back in deliberations today.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
It's one of those cases that we'll keep an eye
on and tell you what the second jury comes up with.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Coming up next, a change of plan at the Karen
Reid murder trial. This is the woman accused of killing
her cop boyfriend in the Boston area. It's Karen Reid
versus the Boston Police Department, really, and this is a
case that's garnered a lot of attention.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's a whole Karen Reid camp. They all wear pink
T shirts.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
They all it's the anti Boston Police Department crowd, I guess.
But a lot of action outside the courthouse for this one.
They claim she drunkenly hit and killed him with her
SUV and he fell down in the snow, froze and died.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
She claims she left the house.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
After that night of heavy drinking and it was his
cop buddies that probably eat them up and left them
in the snow. So that's going back to a jury
as well.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
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Speaker 1 (23:16):
US stocks rallying today, companies reporting fatter profits and expected
other US investments studying a day after falling sharply on
worries that President Trump was hitting the roof with the
Federserve chairman Jerome Powell. The trade war obviously in the
wings there, but the attacks on the head of the
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Federal Reserve front and center calling him a loser on
social media because Jerome Powell went in front of a
group of people last week and said that tariffs lead
to inflation.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You can now why opioid reversal drugs directly from California,
directly from the state under a program they said that
they want to make Narcan, the lock Zone generic version
of Narcan easier.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
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Speaker 3 (24:03):
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Speaker 5 (24:08):
How might you start it?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Usually probably closer to seventy or eighty bucks per wow,
and twenty four for a twin pack is pretty amazing.
The state was selling its own generic version last year
to businesses in their local governments, and now they are
going to be selling to individuals online. The box that
contains two doses of naloxone nasal spray would cost oh
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it says it cost as much as seventy dollars from
regular pharmacies.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
So that's cheaper than when I bought mine, But that's
a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Kings blew a four game a four goal lead before
they hung on to beat the Edmonnton Oiler six to five.
The Clippers beat the Nuggets one of five, one of two.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Do you want?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Lakers play tonight against the Timberwolves. Angels host the Padres. Sorry,
Angels host the Pirates six thirty.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Uncle Buck when he's on the phone with Lorraine. Dodgers
are against the Cubs at field. With the first I
was going to tell you a fun baseball story about
the White Sox. Okay, have you heard this? Four young
Chicago White Sox socks pitchers all had something in common
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before they even went to Boston this weekend. All four
were from Massachusetts, and they were teammates on a major
league club. Together at Fenway for the first time, and
within a twenty four hour span, Sean Burkeles, Mike Vassil,
Jared Schuster, and Shane Smith each pitched off Fenway's mound
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as Major leaguers for the first time.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Burke played in high school against Vassal, a reliever who
pitched in Saturday's walkoff loss.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But what a cool experience, all four.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
From Massachusetts at Fenway on the mound within twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Incredible.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
There's got to be something I can't I mean, it's
one of those things that I don't think I would
be able to my head around the feeling of that
now going to the park up, going.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
To start crying. I will start crying.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
If there was still a field of candlesticks. Yeah, to
go back there and to pitch off of that now,
it would have been pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's Fenway. Yeah, that's the crumb de la Crumb.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I mean, there was a kid last night in the
Brewers are playing the Giants, and he grew up in
Sacramento loving the Giants and the A's and then he
gets to pitch. I mean it wasn't Candlestick. He probably
is not old enough to remember Candlestick, but he got
to pitch there in that park. And it's one of
those where you know your team is coming to town
to visit and everybody in your hometown wants to go
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see you, and you got twenty five or forty tickets
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
It is so very cool.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
We mentioned the second trial of Judge Jeffrey Ferguson down
in Orange County. We are also in the retrial of
Karen Reid in the death of her Boston police officer
boyfriend John O'Keefe opening statements today. This would be a
few months after jurors deadlocked on the case and prosecutors
had to start all over. But this is going to
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be still kind of a fifty to fifty case depending
on how you look at this.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Here's the story.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Karen reads dating this Boston police officer. They're both about
forty at the time. He's his sister had died, so
he takes care of the dead sister's two kids. She
is unmarried and single, Karen is. Anyway, the two they
go out one night. They're drinking, they're drinking some more.
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They're with friends at some outside of Boston local places,
a lot of friends that are also law enforcement people.
Then travel in the same circles and drinks drinks, drinks,
drink drinks plus more drinks, and they end up going
back to one of the friends' homes. Well, Karen Reid
and her Boston officer boyfriend, they have a pretty volatile
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race relationship. It's hot, damn hot, but it's also very
argument to e They were known to get into arguments,
especially after a few drinks, and that is what happened
that night, she maintains. She they got to the house,
he gets out of the car to go inside, and
he's taking forever. She wants to get out of there,
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so she just takes the car and she leaves.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's her story. She leaves.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
She goes back to his house where those kids are sleeping,
what have you. She sleeps on the couch. The next morning,
he's still not home. She's like, what the hell, where
are you? She starts calling around. They go back to
the house. They see his dead body in the snow
in the front lawn or what is the front lawn,
what's not covered with three feet of snow blizzard conditions.
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He's dead. Okay, So the first firefighters on the scene
will report that they heard her say I hit him?
Did I hit him?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I hit him?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And that is what this case is relying upon. The
first go around, the prosecutor was totally weak. Stream could
not lay out the facts of the cases. He saw them.
And she has a very high powered attorney who used
to be a prosecutor here to the Mickey Thompson case,
among others, the Lana Clarkson case, Alan Jackson, and Alan
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Jackson is very good at what he does. It was
night and day the first trial. Well, now the prosecution
has brought in a heavy hitter to fight for the
state and to put Karen away for this, and it's
gonna be crazy. There's a lot of extracurriculars with this trial.
This is one of those things where people are chanting
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outside every day. Her supporters are wearing the pink T shirts.
You've got the whole law enforcement community on the other side.
So there's a lot of emotion that surrounds this one.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And there's extracurricular romance as well that was involved because
an ATF guy who was at the after party exchanged
text messages with Karen Reid. They had kissed at one
point outside the ex boyfriend's apartment. I mean there is
and this is the part I don't quite understand. The
judge is not allowing the process, sorry, not allowing the
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defense to raise a theory that someone else did it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well in particular, you can raise the offense and somebody
else did it, but they were naming names in the
first trial.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That makes then that makes more sense. They can at
least say she couldn't have done it. Someone else must have, right,
They don't just have to say that she okay, that
makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I believe that is specific about it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, so this is again these opening statements today on
this very closely watched trial.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So it's was she all heated and pissed and drunk
and backed into him with her suv or did he
go into that house get into it with his cop
buddies and maybe his cop buddy's dog, and then that's
how he got his injuries and that's how he ended
up in the front yard. Those are your two choices,
and then choose your own adventure trial.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Here adventure turned to page forty four. We will do
our swamp watch when we come back.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Good morning, Gary. I just wanted to say that your
Sesscuipadeilian approach to your hosting duties is really impressive and
I appreciate it very much. Shannon is quite wrong. Your
perspicacity when it comes to vocabulary is something to be applauded,
and I'm with you, buddy, many of us are.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Thank you, have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Pers capacity. What a great word.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Perci, persipacity, perse capacity, quality. Now the quality of having
a ready insight into things shrewdness.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I'll take it as a compliment, though I don't understand
it well.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It means that you can just have insight into things
like right away off the cuff, your insight into the
funeral arrangements, knowing about.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
The catafol catafal, which they don't have. There's no L.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
There is an L, but it's not. It's not announced.
It's not, but you pronounce it. I do.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
It's that's your special thing. That's like your onion.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It's like my my pickle sauce on the top of it.
And that's that's how I say catafalk.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Is that right? Pickle sauce or pickle sauce.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Gary Channel will continue after this.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
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AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. Karen Reid's second murder trial is
back in action today. The big change is the prosecutor
first time around. If you paid attention, and a lot
of the country did, if you paid attention to the prosecutor,
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I feel badly for saying this, but he was awful.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
He sucked.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
He was not succinct, He showed no sort of demonstrative
argument at all. He was very weak, extreme poor time management.
Just it was awful. It was like a masterclass on
how not to prosecute a case. According to at least
the Max documentary that I watched, that was a pretty
exhaustive dive into the first trial. But the new prosecutor
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is somebody who defended Whitey Bulger. I mean, yeah, new
prosecutor defended Whitey Bulger. He has experience in high profile cases.
So that goes without saying with that caveat, but he
also is out of the gate sounding much better, and
it's going to be a much bigger road to hoe
for Alan Jackson, who is her attorney, who was a
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prosecutor here in La County covered a lot of prosecuted
a lot of profile cases in his own right. But
it seems like this prosecutor is zeroing in on Karen
Reid's own words that she killed her police officer boyfriend
three years ago after a night of heavy drinking, and
that the first firefighter on the scene heard her say
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the words I hit him, I hit him, I hit him,
And they're going to focus on that. And of course,
her defense maintains that she left that house, she did
not hit him, that he got into it with some
of his cop buddies and maybe got into a fight
with them. They left him ount in the snow. He
froze and died. So that's the alternative story there. But again,
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another jury seated. As we roll the dice and see
what they decide about Karen Reid's faith.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We'll talk more about it later this hour too, because
it's just a fascinating case. Yesterday's State of the City
was delivered by Mayor Karen Back.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
This is about all of us. It's about choosing to
believe in each other again and the future of the
city that we love.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Hey, I never stopped believing in people around here. I
stopped believing in you when you saw that a ridiculously
awful fire forecast for your city and took off on
your plan trip. I felt like I didn't believe in
you after you heard about what was going on and
didn't cut your trip short and went.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
To cocktail hour.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
She did say that the recovery that we're seeing in
the Palisades is the fastest in the history of cal
orn Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The recovery in the Palisades is on track to be
the fastest in Calilifornia history.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Because they have money, Karen, That's what happens when rich
people lose their s, they re build very quickly.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Look at what's going on in Alta, Dina.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I know that's not her jurisdiction, but she's damn lucky
this happened in the Palisades because they can rebuild, they
can hire the people to cut through the red tape
that she says she cut herself.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, in all honesty, the money amplifies their voice. There's
that too. Makes they have connections in city hall.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That is not a victory lap thing that you can take.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It's a frustrating victory lap. I don't know, maybe not
a victory lap.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean she is that her breaking down the word
California is her taking a victory lap over the fact
that people have enough money to rebuild quickly.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
That is a weird way to say it, Isn't.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It fastest in California?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Cala forty Like she's trying to make a very important
point there and it doesn't go back to her.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Well, I don't know who she's comparing it to the
fastest recovery, And how do you measure something.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
What Paradise where that town was wiped out, just like
the way it was in the Palisades, where everyone's retired
and has no income to rebuild, where the towns are
poor and bankrupt and they have no money to rebuild
their town centers.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
She did acknowledge that outside of the slivers of hope
that we've seen emerging from the recovery in the Palisades,
there is bad news.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
The reality is our city faces a more than an
eight hundred million dollar deficit. My proposed budget unfortunately includ's layoffs,
which is a decision of absolute last resort.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
The I just don't And she's a practice politician, she'd
been doing this for a long time.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I just don't believe her when she speaks. I don't
know who that person is.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Well, think about.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
This fire situation outside of the budget deficit. The fire situation,
I think is a weighted backpack for her going into
whatever reelection she thinks she's going to mount. And I
know there are people who will support her who say
that she's getting the short end of the stick here
who said that this is there's nothing that she would
have done had she not gone to Ghana. There's nothing
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she would have been able to prepare for for that fire.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We don't hire a mayor for your trip to Ghana.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I don't know how many times.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I gotta say it, Police, fire roads, trash. You got
to hit all four You got to hit all four
of those bases, and then you get your victory lap
to home plate. You don't get police, fire roads and trash,
you're screwed on this level of politics. I know she
comes from Sacramento, where everything's very nuanced and vague.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Here it's very clear. On a city level.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Make sure we have enough police, make sure our firefighters
department are well staffed, fix the damn roads, and take
out the trash without hiking our fees.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
How hard is that it seems very simple, No, what
are you doing in Ghana?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
For Christ's sakes?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Well, remember she was there because the Biden administration had
asked her to go. It's okay to say no, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
To say I've got s at home. I need to
deal with maybe next year.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
One of the things she did talk about was the
potential for a hike in the film tax credit locally
and through the state. And that's actually an interesting issue
because Trump has picked a handful of guys to be
his ambassadors for what he wants to see as sort
of the new Hollywood.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
We'll talk about what who those people are, what they're
gonna do.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know about this. I'm gonna come back.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
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I love that you actually sit to me off here.
When's the last time you checked on your medication?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's really good, So we'll get to it and swamp watch.
You said it's so not trying to be funny, which
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like many federal agencies. Well, apparently they've begun offering workshops
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on topics like how to improve your personal brand and
how to manage strong emotions around losing your job. That's
not going over well as one can imagine. We'll talk
about it coming up at eleven o'clock.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Follow Up two of the story from last week the
shooting at Florida State University. Remember two people were killed
several others that were hurt. CNN is reporting that the
twenty year old shooter had been diagnosed with emotional dysregulation
and had stopped taking his prescription medication.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
This was the conversation you were trying to have with.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Me, Yes, if you remember, this is the shooter allegedly
used as I think it's a stepmother's handgun in the shooting.
She happens to be a sheriff's deputy in the sheriff
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Speaker 1 (08:35):
We were talking about the Boston Marathon. Did you hear
about the half marathon in Beijing, China? Sounds smoggy, It
sounds roboty. Oh, thousands of robots, humanoid robots ran alongside
actual humans in this half marathon and the Chinese capital.
Bipedal robots of various makes and sizes navigated the thirteen
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point one mile course on Saturday, support by teams of
human navigators, operators and engineers VET organizers, calling it a
first that is creepy as hell.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I don't even want to see pictures of that. We
mentioned Carabas in the State of the city. One of
the things that she had suggested was that we need
to win back our entertainment jobs. Gavin Newsom has proposed
hiking our tax incentives up to seven hundred and fifty
million dollars starting in July. There are a couple of
bills in the legislature that would make those increases possible,
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expanding the base credit from twenty to thirty five percent
qualified productions, and then expanding what kind of productions would
be qualified, including sitcoms and animation.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Not just not just movies.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
And right before he was inaugurated, President Trump named John Voight,
Sylvester Stallone, and Mel Gibson to be his special ambassadors
to Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
The Eyes and Ears and I will get done what
they suggest, Trump wrot on his Truth social platform. He
said at the time, Hollywood had lost much business over
the last four years to foreign countries and that these
three guys will help bring it back bigger, better, stronger
than ever before.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The way the La Times writes this up is basically
that these three guys have done nothing. Now the La
Times is probably not going to go out and do
the actual legwork to talk to Sylvester Stallone, John Voyd
and Mel Gibson and ask them about what they're doing.
A spokesperson for the California Film Commission said that their
executive director, Colleen Bell, did have conversations with John Voyd,
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but didn't talk about the discussion. Another one involved with
the Mayor's Entertainment Task Force, who did say that they
were not aware of any contact with.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
These three guys.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Motion Picture Association said declined to comment altogether as to
whether or not they'd had any interaction with these ambassadors.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
As the president got to give it time.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know Rocky lost in the first movie.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Mel GiB you're Mel Gibson. Most recently when we talked
about him, was leading the race on the Republican side
for governor of California. Yeah, some sort of baby poll.
I think it was a gallop pole.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Ben Affleck, because we all go to him. Ben Affleck
had said in an interview last week while he's promoting
his new Accountant to movie, He said, I think part
of the problem with California is they came to take
this industry for granted a little bit. Now, I would
take off the a little bit on the end there,
because think about how the state, the more local governments
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have been dealing with the film and TV industry in California.
Not only was it punched squarely in the face by
the government when it came to COVID and the incredible
amount of restrictions that were placed on it, not just
by the state and local health agencies, but by the unions.
The unions strangled production because they demanded so much protection,
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so much of this, so much of that, so many
safety officers, all of the stuff that just got gummed
into the works that slowed down film and TV in
this and then you had the writer strike and then
you had the actors strike. So I'm not saying that
the pain is not some of it is self inflicted.
But to get this thing back up and running, the
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state and local governments have to take a significant step,
and tax incentives is one of the ways to do that.
I mean, other states Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, Texas, they
are all new Mexico is another one. They are all
handing money handover fist to these production companies to set
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up shop in those states and then out of the
country too, you know, places like there was a big
article about how the new Rob Low game.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Show is called the Floor I think is what it's called.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
They it's cheaper for them to fly Rob Low and
one hundred contestants to Ireland to film that show. Then
it is for them to do it at one of
the thousands of sound stages here in LA.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And I've got to say, just based on things like
the Ransom Canyon show I was talking about yesterday on Netflix,
it's filmed in Albuquerque. It's beautiful to watch shows that
are filmed elsewhere and not on a sound stage.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
There's a lot of beautiful parts of this country, and
they're making it cheaper to shoot there. Why not let
alone Ireland?
Speaker 6 (13:50):
All right?
Speaker 5 (13:51):
A couple of we'll go to the legal desk when
we come out.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
And yes, it's Gary and Shannon's Hour of Justice, an
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It's legal briefs. It's not.
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Thank you?
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I'll take it.
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Speaker 3 (14:33):
A new report from the International Monetary Funds is the
global economy is going to slow down sharply this year.
They put the blame on President Trump's tariff war and
the uncertainty that comes with the terrorists. Global growth, according
to the IMF, will down shift to an annual rate
of two point eight percent. That is half a percentage
point lower than was projected in January and what they
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term a significant slowdown. After yesterday's big sell off, guess
what today a big jump on Wall Street. The Dow
is up six hundred and eighty points right now, SMP
five hundred is up about a percent and a half.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Nasdaq is also up two percent. Gold.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
By the way, gold went over thirty five hundred dollars
an ounce. It's down a little bit. It's pulled back
from that at about thirty four to eighteen an ounce
right now.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Coming up in the twelve o'clock hour True Crime Tuesday.
This story today is about a woman from California who
has shocked the Internet claiming that she is the daughter
of a serial killer. She claims her dad killed about
four hundred people. Obviously, this has created a frenzy online.
We'll dive into it for True Crime Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
We've told you before about the case of Jeffrey Ferguson,
an Orange County Superior Court judge who shot and killed
his wife during an argument. That part is not under discussion.
The question is was it an accidental shooting, was it
a careless shooting, or was it an act of murder.
This was an argument that he had with his wife
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in their home in Anaheim Hills, which, weirdly, their adult son.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
It's not weird that their adult son was there.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's weird that all of the specifics that went on
while this was going on, and they were watching the
television show Breaking Bad the detail, so I didn't see
that either before. So the original trial he described this
is Judge Jeffrey Ferguson. He described the glock pistol that
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he keeps in an ankle holster almost all the time.
Both his wife's son, he they all said he keeps
this thing on him almost all the time. He described
during an argument fumbling with the gun while he's trying
to pull it out of his ankle holster and put
it on the table, and that when he did that,
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some combination of tripping and his shoulder giving out him
to accidentally pull the trigger and the gun went off
and his wife was killed.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Is he not leaning into the seventy five margheritas he
had because he wants to preserve his role as a judge.
I mean why, it's just a question from a label.
But even if why, woult you lean into that? We
had drinks before dinner. We had dinner, had a couple
of margaritas. That's when things got heated. We started fighting,
as the evidence shows came back.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
We were fighting some more.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm putting my gun away, I'm drunk, and it goes off.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
But then manslaughter, right, sure, murder. Would he be allowed
to stay on the bench with a manslaughter conviction?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
No, So in this retrial, same description by the way,
that that it was an accident. If it was an accident,
I mean pure accident. No crime was committed, that's according
to the defense. But you could be careless, you could
be negligent, and those are the things that are going
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to go into play here. The previous jury, we mentioned that,
this is the second jury. Just yesterday they went to
they got the case. So they're deliberating. The previous jury
deliberated nine days.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Can we just take a moment and have a judge
Eleanor Hunter appreciation moment. When I heard that this case
was in the hands of a new jury this quickly,
I was like, what justice is not swift and not
in California. The fact that they retried this thing as
quickly as they did is remarkable.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
This isn't a hugely different case than the other jury got,
and that first jury ended deadlocked eleven to one in
favor of the second Yeah, in favor of second degree murder.
The one holdout in that first jury wanted involuntary manslaughter.
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So if you're the prosecution, if you're Orange County DA's office,
you think there's off, Oh yeah, we're gonna get we
got this Where this is that one holdout that wants
involuntary manslaughter. That's you know, that's probably an outlier they're hoping.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So they it might be it.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Might be ten to two this time around.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Though that's true.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You know, the deputy DA that's trying this for Orange
County said that there could be two ways the jurors
come to that second degree murder conviction. One is that
he intentionally fired the fatal shot, or instead that he
handled the gun while drunk and was acting with reckless
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disregard for his wife's safety, and again they were arguing.
She brought up the issue of the gun. She knew
that he had it with him, she referred to it
in the argument.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I think she asked for it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Why don't you point a real gun at me or something,
use his fingers finger. That does not make it okay
to shoot and kill somebody. The other thing is, what
are the odds? What are the odds it's somebody who's
had a permit for a concealed weapon for what thirty
years plus?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I think.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Just happens to in somebody who drinks on the regular.
I'm basing that off of just me profiling one of
the odds that he takes his gun out of his
holster and it accidentally goes off, shoots and kills his wife.
That's a pretty darn crazy thing to have happened. A
lot of people are taking their gun out and it
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accidentally goes off unless you're pointing it at the person.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
It's just very rare.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know, look at what ru instead of rust, he's
pointing it at her.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know, you've got to you don't just like take
your gun out and it just happens to go off
and fire into the person that you happen to be
arguing with at that time.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
That's what I don't quite get.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
If you take a gun out and you put it
on if I took my gun out and I put
it on this desk right here, whether I was doing
it to threaten you or just go, hey, look at
the shiny new gun I got, How.
Speaker 5 (21:14):
Does it go?
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I mean, there's the if you're just looking at if
it's a two dimensional space, right, there's three hundred and
sixty degrees of pointing that I could the muzzle of
this gun could be pointed. Well, I'm certainly not going
to point it at myself because I'm not dumb. I
hope I wouldn't point it at you because I wouldn't
want it to go off. How in the world is
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it just a chance that it's pointed in exactly the
right direction? That's the part that yeah. I mean, like
you said, this guy's had weapons forever. Now, that doesn't
guarantee that he knows what he's doing, or that he
practices you know, regular simple gun safety, which is the
hot end, is always dangerous.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
He's wearing his.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Gun enough to wear it to dinner at the Mexican
restaurant and holster. He's used to having his firearm on him.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah, and come on, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
He got drunk, she was being a bee shot and
killed her.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Jury is back in deliberations today.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
It's one of those cases that we'll keep an eye
on and tell you what the second jury comes up with.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Coming up next, a change of plan at the Karen
Reid murder trial. This is the woman accused of killing
her cop boyfriend in the Boston area. It's Karen Reid
versus the Boston Police Department, really, and this is a
case that's garnered a lot of attention.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
There's a whole Karen Reid camp. They all wear pink
T shirts.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
They all it's the anti Boston Police Department crowd, I guess.
But a lot of action outside the courthouse for this one.
They claim she drunkenly hit and killed him with her
SUV and he fell down in the snow, froze and died.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
She claims she left the house.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
After that night of heavy drinking and it was his
cop buddies that probably eat them up and left them
in the snow. So that's going back to a jury
as well.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI AM.
Six forty.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
US stocks rallying today, companies reporting fatter profits and expected
other US investments studying a day after falling sharply on
worries that President Trump was hitting the roof with the
Federserve chairman Jerome Powell. The trade war obviously in the
wings there, but the attacks on the head of the
(23:36):
Federal Reserve front and center calling him a loser on
social media because Jerome Powell went in front of a
group of people last week and said that tariffs lead
to inflation.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You can now why opioid reversal drugs directly from California,
directly from the state under a program they said that
they want to make Narcan, the lock Zone generic version
of Narcan easier.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
To get.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
A twenty four dollars twin pack is pretty amazing.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
How might you start it?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Usually probably closer to seventy or eighty bucks per wow,
and twenty four for a twin pack is pretty amazing.
The state was selling its own generic version last year
to businesses in their local governments, and now they are
going to be selling to individuals online. The box that
contains two doses of naloxone nasal spray would cost oh
(24:29):
it says it cost as much as seventy dollars from
regular pharmacies.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
So that's cheaper than when I bought mine, But that's
a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Kings blew a four game a four goal lead before
they hung on to beat the Edmonnton Oiler six to five.
The Clippers beat the Nuggets one of five, one of two.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Do you want?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Lakers play tonight against the Timberwolves. Angels host the Padres. Sorry,
Angels host the Pirates six thirty.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Uncle Buck when he's on the phone with Lorraine. Dodgers
are against the Cubs at field. With the first I
was going to tell you a fun baseball story about
the White Sox. Okay, have you heard this? Four young
Chicago White Sox socks pitchers all had something in common
(25:16):
before they even went to Boston this weekend. All four
were from Massachusetts, and they were teammates on a major
league club. Together at Fenway for the first time, and
within a twenty four hour span, Sean Burkeles, Mike Vassil,
Jared Schuster, and Shane Smith each pitched off Fenway's mound
(25:37):
as Major leaguers for the first time.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Burke played in high school against Vassal, a reliever who
pitched in Saturday's walkoff loss.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But what a cool experience, all four.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
From Massachusetts at Fenway on the mound within twenty four hours.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Incredible.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
There's got to be something I can't I mean, it's
one of those things that I don't think I would
be able to my head around the feeling of that
now going to the park up, going.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
To start crying. I will start crying.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
If there was still a field of candlesticks. Yeah, to
go back there and to pitch off of that now,
it would have been pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
That's Fenway. Yeah, that's the crumb de la Crumb.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I mean, there was a kid last night in the
Brewers are playing the Giants, and he grew up in
Sacramento loving the Giants and the A's and then he
gets to pitch. I mean it wasn't Candlestick. He probably
is not old enough to remember Candlestick, but he got
to pitch there in that park. And it's one of
those where you know your team is coming to town
to visit and everybody in your hometown wants to go
(26:42):
see you, and you got twenty five or forty tickets
or whatever.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
It is so very cool.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
We mentioned the second trial of Judge Jeffrey Ferguson down
in Orange County. We are also in the retrial of
Karen Reid in the death of her Boston police officer
boyfriend John O'Keefe opening statements today. This would be a
few months after jurors deadlocked on the case and prosecutors
had to start all over. But this is going to
(27:08):
be still kind of a fifty to fifty case depending
on how you look at this.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Here's the story.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Karen reads dating this Boston police officer. They're both about
forty at the time. He's his sister had died, so
he takes care of the dead sister's two kids. She
is unmarried and single, Karen is. Anyway, the two they
go out one night. They're drinking, they're drinking some more.
(27:34):
They're with friends at some outside of Boston local places,
a lot of friends that are also law enforcement people.
Then travel in the same circles and drinks drinks, drinks,
drink drinks plus more drinks, and they end up going
back to one of the friends' homes. Well, Karen Reid
and her Boston officer boyfriend, they have a pretty volatile
(27:57):
race relationship. It's hot, damn hot, but it's also very
argument to e They were known to get into arguments,
especially after a few drinks, and that is what happened
that night, she maintains. She they got to the house,
he gets out of the car to go inside, and
he's taking forever. She wants to get out of there,
(28:18):
so she just takes the car and she leaves.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's her story. She leaves.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
She goes back to his house where those kids are sleeping,
what have you. She sleeps on the couch. The next morning,
he's still not home. She's like, what the hell, where
are you? She starts calling around. They go back to
the house. They see his dead body in the snow
in the front lawn or what is the front lawn,
what's not covered with three feet of snow blizzard conditions.
(28:42):
He's dead. Okay, So the first firefighters on the scene
will report that they heard her say I hit him?
Did I hit him?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I hit him?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And that is what this case is relying upon. The
first go around, the prosecutor was totally weak. Stream could
not lay out the facts of the cases. He saw them.
And she has a very high powered attorney who used
to be a prosecutor here to the Mickey Thompson case,
among others, the Lana Clarkson case, Alan Jackson, and Alan
(29:11):
Jackson is very good at what he does. It was
night and day the first trial. Well, now the prosecution
has brought in a heavy hitter to fight for the
state and to put Karen away for this, and it's
gonna be crazy. There's a lot of extracurriculars with this trial.
This is one of those things where people are chanting
(29:32):
outside every day. Her supporters are wearing the pink T shirts.
You've got the whole law enforcement community on the other side.
So there's a lot of emotion that surrounds this one.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
And there's extracurricular romance as well that was involved because
an ATF guy who was at the after party exchanged
text messages with Karen Reid. They had kissed at one
point outside the ex boyfriend's apartment. I mean there is
and this is the part I don't quite understand. The
judge is not allowing the process, sorry, not allowing the
(30:07):
defense to raise a theory that someone else did it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Well in particular, you can raise the offense and somebody
else did it, but they were naming names in the
first trial.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That makes then that makes more sense. They can at
least say she couldn't have done it. Someone else must have, right,
They don't just have to say that she okay, that
makes more sense.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I believe that is specific about it.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, so this is again these opening statements today on
this very closely watched trial.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So it's was she all heated and pissed and drunk
and backed into him with her suv or did he
go into that house get into it with his cop
buddies and maybe his cop buddy's dog, and then that's
how he got his injuries and that's how he ended
up in the front yard. Those are your two choices,
and then choose your own adventure trial.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Here adventure turned to page forty four. We will do
our swamp watch when we come back.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Good morning, Gary. I just wanted to say that your
Sesscuipadeilian approach to your hosting duties is really impressive and
I appreciate it very much. Shannon is quite wrong. Your
perspicacity when it comes to vocabulary is something to be applauded,
and I'm with you, buddy, many of us are.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Thank you, have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Pers capacity. What a great word.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Perci, persipacity, perse capacity, quality. Now the quality of having
a ready insight into things shrewdness.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I'll take it as a compliment, though I don't understand
it well.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It means that you can just have insight into things
like right away off the cuff, your insight into the
funeral arrangements, knowing about.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
The catafol catafal, which they don't have. There's no L.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
There is an L, but it's not. It's not announced.
It's not, but you pronounce it. I do.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
It's that's your special thing. That's like your onion.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It's like my my pickle sauce on the top of it.
And that's that's how I say catafalk.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Is that right? Pickle sauce or pickle sauce.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
Gary Channel will continue after this.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
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