April 24, 2025 • 29 mins
Heather Brooker joins the show to speak - CA Film & TV Tax Credit Expansion Bills Clear State Assembly, Senate Committees. Heather Brooker Explains Being a Universal Tour Guide. California economy now the world’s fourth largest, overtaking Japan / In Sac, Mayor Bass seeks state money to close nearly $1-billion budget gap. Shakespeare didn’t abandon his wife in Stratford, letter suggests
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app saveral twenty fourth stories we are
following for you today. Well, Trump's not going to like this.
An ap Nork Center for Public Affairs Research poll suggests
that Americans trump trust in Trump to bolster the economy
(00:22):
is faltering. Survey finds many people fear the country is
being steered into a recession and that has broad and
haphazardly enforced tariffs will cause prices to rise.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I mentioned earlier that we were doing the story about
trying to break the four minute mile for women?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What Ale Gary wearing?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Chuck Taylor's damn Gary and Tolo.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's Gary.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
What's up, homie?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Now that's cool.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I used to work Chuck Taylor's too. Yeah, well I
still do. I still have. They're blue, They're not the originals.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
China has denied any suggestion that it is an active
negotiations with the administration in Washington over tariffs, saying, as
you mentioned, and I just can't I can't stop reading
this enough that any notion of progress in the matter
is as groundless as trying to catch the wind.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Gosh, so poetic.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
The State Senate Revenue and Taxation Committee has voted out
of a committee a bill that aims at expanding and
retooling the state's film and television tax credit program. Vastly
important issue when it comes to us here in southern California,
and kfi's Heather Brooker has been helping us cover this story.
So SB six thirty now goes to the full Senate
for consideration.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So this is a huge hurdle for all of the
people who have been supporting these bills, these two bills
that are moving through the House and the Senate.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And yeah, so they've just.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Passed through the House on Tuesday, the Senate yesterday. They
have one more hearing to get through next week with
the House, and then it goes to the budget review
and that is going to be the biggest turtle. They
have to justify the expense and they have to find
out if we have money in the coffers here in
California to be able to afford this massive increase in
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the tax credit.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What is what are the odds this is all for?
Not this is all just urinating into the wind that
is so hard to catch.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I love that you asked that because we kind of
talked about that a little bit yesterday. You had a
great question about, you know, manufacturing going overseas, now film
and television is going overseas. How can we keep this here?
Is this all pointless? And I had the opportunity yesterday
to speak with Rebecca Ryan. She is the Western executive
director of the DGA, and also she is the leader
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of the Entertainment Coalition Union and Keep California Rolling. And
she has been on the Senate floor, the House floor
all this whole time speaking to them, advocating for one
hundred thousand or so you know, people who are supporting
this bill. So she said that it's obvious that filmmaking
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in californ Wornia is important. It's integral to who we are.
That's why so many other people want it. And I
think you have a little clip from the conversation I
had with her.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
What we know is that every other place in the
world appears to want to attract and take this and
take this work overseas and take this work out of California.
So clearly there's value. But the other thing we know
is that this industry is really at a tipping point
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in California, and we have to do something if we
want this industry to survive here. This is a worker
led effort to keep this industry and these jobs in
the state of California, because once you hollow that out,
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you're not going to recover. And I don't it'd be
hard to think of another industry more identified with California
than the entertainment.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, does hail mary?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I mean, I think so.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I think it's a hail Mary, but I think that
it is, from their perspective, a good bill that's going
to bring jobs.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
She said, it's not a seventy yard hail Mary.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I was just trying.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I was just going to google starting quarterback bad arm.
That's what I was just going to google.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
When you throw in the twenty two year old second
string quarterback of a massive I get a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Little rust on a football mind. But I couldn't think
of anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But your point that and her point as well, that
this is a worker led.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Activity.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They said that they got more than one hundred thousand
letters sent to lawmakers and Sacramento to urge the passage
of these bills.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I think that's been effective because it passed both
committees to move forward unanimously. So far, no one has
voted it down or rejected it at all. So that's
why it's I think moving forward, and I do believe
it will move forward pretty quickly. She has said multiple
time are in a conversation, this is a job's bill.
The main goal and the reason why they're able to
get this funding is because the tax credit will create jobs.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That's the hope.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's the goal, and honestly, that's what we need in
California right now. So they're also good paying jobs. They're
not you know, minimum wage jobs. They are going to
be good paying jobs in the film industry. So right now,
it goes to the hearing next week, then it goes
up for the budget review, then it will go to
the full Senate and full Legislature for vote.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And we know that the governor has been in support
of bills like this. I don't know has he said
anything specifically about these as he's.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Very much behind this.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
This is he is working in tandem with them, and
he is very much supporting this bill. He has come
out publicly and said many times that he wants to
revamp this. It's you know it's been since two thousand
and nine.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, and it's on his ass. I mean, I can
see the political attack ads now. Sure, the guy running
for president is the guy that drove you know, Mickey
Mouse out of Hollywood. You know that kind of stuff.
It's easy to sandbag him.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Nobody wants to be like, have that happen on there?
Exactly because California truly is known at weird, known for
filming here.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
If we lose that industry, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
No, matter what you think about celebrities and you know,
politics and all of that, that's that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It is, all right. So Universal Studios is hosting open
call auditions for studio tour guides. We talked about it yesterday.
Gary's thinking about throwing his hat in there. I was
driving last night. I heard Heather Brooker on the Conway
Show talking about, well, guess what Heather Brooker had this job.
She's got great insights into what it takes.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
And why I can't be higher.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh well, the bar's pretty high. It's not just like,
oh I think I want to do this and then
you just go do it. That wasn't my impression of.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
You Sure sounded like it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, No, no, but here's the good thing. Is what I
gathered from her is it's pretty much the whole field
as actors, and you're an adult theater Maven.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI ams.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And we talked about Universal Studios here in Hollywood hosting
open coll additions. Happened to listen to Conway last night
and Heather Brooker was on talking about her experience in.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That Now listen, I actually saw this before you did too.
I saw it yesterday morning, and I did look at
the ad because I thought, what a fun little job
that would be, what a delightful side hustle, especially considering
a it's right across I mean, it's right over the
hill there, right, and I could do that. After I
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did this, we could My wife even suggested that we
do it together, that you and I audition as a team,
so that we could then do the tours as a team.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right. So, when I was listening to Heather, she said
that everyone's an actor basically that hold on, go get
her you only we had a way of communicating, he's
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get she's coming, she doesn't need to come in here.
Oh my god, freaking Jesus. Mary and Joseph. Anyway, Heather
was talking to Conway and she said that, like the
field was like three hundred people or whatever, and they
whittle it down to like twenty five. And it's like
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a cattle call where you go and they know within
like seconds whether or not.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Sorry, no worries, it's going to hand off with Amy. Amy.
I love her, but she likes her.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He's a yapper. She's a yapper.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
He likes to hang out with me, and I miss her, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So I was just saying how you said it, and
I'm paraphrasing here because I was just like in the
car driving but you there was like three hundred people
or whatever. It's like a cattle call, and that they know.
And you said your class is about twenty five people
and that your first audition, they know within seconds like
if they want you or not.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yes. So it's really competitive.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And back then, now they do videos where they have
people send in video. I think that changed during COVID,
But back then, there would be sometimes five or six
hundred people that would show up for the tour Guide
open call and we would go in and the managers
were there and they would literally sit down with you
for just a few seconds. You would basically say hi,
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introduce yourself a little bit, and then they would be like, okay,
we'll call you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And then that was it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Like if you got the call, that means you impress
them in your thirty seconds, wait to bring a headshot
and resume, and then from there. It was very much
like an American Idol process. The manager at the time
was a big fan of American Idol and those reality
competition shows, so he would set it up like okay,
contestant number two, number seve, number twelve fourteen, I'm sorry,
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you will not be moving forward.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And it was like, I don't need that stress.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
That's what I was thinking. I was like, Gary would
not like that.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It was very dramatic, very intense.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And you have to be on right away, right like
it's like you're doing a bit from go.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They very much looked for people who were had that
bubbly personality, had improv experience, comedians, actors, people who can
sit on a tram and talk forever, like if a
ride or something goes down like that happened a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
We had what was called like filler stall material.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So the stall material that I was assigned to learn
and memorize. Was all about weather effects on a studio lot,
so that if there was an accident up ahead, or
a ride went down or something like that, I could
talk for three to five minutes about weather effects and.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Bore people to tear the special effects, how they make weather,
or they the effect that weather would have while you're
shooting something.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Special effects, weather, special effects in filming. So how they
made the snow and how they made rain.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So this was before though I think you said it
was like early two thousands. You did this. I two
thousand and seven, okay, two thousand and seven. So now
everyone's got their phones. So I wonder how much stall
tactics or whatever phil you actually have to do because
now everyone, you know, the ride breaks down or what
have you. Everyone's on their phones.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Anyway, I'll tell you it is a lot of the
same practices because even though everyone's on their phones, the
tour guides are not allowed to be on their phone.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
We have a lot of video clips.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
There's a whole video like you know roster that you
can pull up lots of old clips from films, you know, compilations,
that sort of thing to fill time. And but the
tour guys are not allowed to be on their phone
one time. I remember you, guys, I was really I
probably wasn't the best tour.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm gonna be really honest with you. I probably should
have been fired multiple times. I don't think you should
work certain words into your tour. But anyway, all right,
So I I had forgotten one time to turn my
mic off, and I was talking to the driver about
what we were going to do later after work and
going out and partying and all this stuff. After we
get off the tour, this woman comes up to me
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and she was like, I just want you to know
we heard every word you said about where you guys
are going tonight and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And I was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I was like, it was such a fun job, and
I don't think I took it very seriously. But there
are people who've been there.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
For life life to know about Universal Studios, Like do
you have handbooks? Yes, you have to know a lot
going into the audition.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
You do not have to know a lot going into
the audition. It's not like they test you on your
knowledge beforehand. But they have three weeks of training and
testing once you get hired.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And did people shoot questions at you, like questions to try.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
To stop you or not? Oh you mean during training
or during the tour. During the tour No, not really
generally people just honestly, I think they use it as
a time to sit down and rest their feet from
walking all through.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
The park at Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
People do wild stuff on the tram though, a lot
of sex stuff really that.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They think we can't see, Like what I don't know
if I should see?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Do it?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You're in a safe space.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
This is no one listening. Is that what you're like?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Can stuff?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
My gosh?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, hand stuff? Now what were the words that you
use that you should not have?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I think I said shart a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my god, Now that is too crass for this show.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Now, dare you?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Why do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Why did you think I wasn't gonna Is it because
of the stress of the American Idol style?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't think you would enjoy that, but I think
it would make for a really good story for the
show that you auditioned.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I mean, I kind of agree. I think that would
be really fun. And you're old you're an old I'm sorry.
I think most of the people are gonna be like
twenty something. You know, I thought that too, but I
was one of the older ones there. There was a
handful of us that were older, and you know, this
was fifteen years ago and I was still one of
the older ones.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, so everyone's going to be nineteen years old. It's
auditioning for this.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Most people do it I think as like a summer job,
something fun. But then there are the lifers, the people
who've been there forever.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You have to wear something wacky, though, something do I
with more personality, Heather?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Would that help me stand out? I mean I think
so they'd be like, Wow, this guy has personality.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You need to wear something with personality.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Because you cannot be afraid to talk to one hundred
and fifty people out your face.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Your face. You're right now, you.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Guys are going to be the best coaches ever. Listen,
if you do it, I will help you. We will
go and we will lift the veil on some of
America's most popular filming locations.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Or if I'd have to fill out like a full
NDA so that I couldn't tell them look at you.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
With all your privilege. You even have like a pro
coach in your corner.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I'm ready, let's do it. I support that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You're like Hillary Swank and billion dollar Baby. She's like
your Clint east Wood.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
You'd be my hype man.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I would be, Yeah, you're damn right. I would be,
and I'd beat the s out of you town.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I've just come out of the first Interview'd be like,
cut me, cut me. Yeah, you could do it. You
could do it. You could do it.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You would totally pass with flying colors. If anything, we
should at least get you on the tram and just
see how you do.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think we should shoot video of this. All right
to be continued.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, it was last week.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I didn't hear the content. Oh Easter Sunday, Well, not
everybody is in town and they're scheduling. And you've never
done a holiday on a different day too.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
If you don't get it the first time, you gotta
wait till next year. I think that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I was a tour guide back in the day at Universal.
It was so great. Yes, the audition process was crazy
and what you have to memorize. I still have the
book and it is a giant binder, three ring binder.
I think you guys should audition.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It is a fun job.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Trust me, you're not going to make any money, but
it's still fun.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That sounds like a long day to me. Sitting in
the tram like in the summer months as sweat and
just awful.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean in the valley gets warm, I know, going
from as an example, on a Thursday, if I leave
here at one and my first tram ride is at
two and then I got however many tram rides you do?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How many do you do? You do an average of
probably four to five? How long eight hour shift? Yeah,
the shift's eight hours.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So it's a union job. So breaks, our manatory breaks
are built in.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't want to break. I just want to blow
through that day.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It it's AATSI. Oh it is okay, AATSI.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I think that's a fun thing to say.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Gary, Gary, we need this. I need this. You need
to do this for us.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
This could be our summer job together.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
We need this.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I I'm pulling for you.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Gary, Come on, Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Somebody said, well, it's kind of mean say it that
has never prepreded you from saying it before. Because it's
from me, I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
When other then I'll pretend it's from you.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Somebody said something to the effect.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Of too old, no, too fat, No, it's too white.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
D Yeah, but I can, I can, I can act,
I can act.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Not that way.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Let's try that for the next segment.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Speaking of which, by the way, in the last few months,
business owners vendors along the Hollywood Walk of Fames say
they have noticed a slowdown in foot traffic in which
should be.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
A busy season.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Stir Well, that's the part that I'm not I don't
think anybody is adding into this. They're saying that they
reported California the entire state. The Visit California Tourism Board
reported about a nine percent drop in international arrivals to
California in February twenty five compared to February of twenty four.
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Marty Minogue, an employee one World Tour, said, my boss
has been out here twenty six years and says it's
the slowest he's ever seen. It could be any number
of things. People don't like the political atmosphere in the
United States. They don't want to give money to the
United States. They could be concerned about wildfires because remember,
we here in Southern California know how isolated geographically the
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fires were. But if you live in I just say Tokyo,
and you don't have an idea of how big Southern
California is, maybe you think the whole place was on fire.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
A lot of catting for political reasons. My aunt has
a bunch of friends in Palm Desert and says that
they're Canadian snowbirds, but at least a couple of them
selling their homes now there you usually had the Canadian
and you saw this. I think that was last week.
That Palm Springs is kind of like starting this pr
effort to keep the Canadians right. But I didn't know
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some of them have bought there and some of them
now selling some part of that Canadian community because they
just don't want to deal with the anti Canada vibe.
Visited visits from Canadians were down twelve percent in February
from twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That tracks with other international visitors. The International Trade Association
says they're down. International visitors down twelve percent this March
compared to March of last year, and your point about
trying to lure those closest international visitors Canadians back into California.
Governor k NewsOne elnse to campaign, it's kind of piggybacking
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on what Palm Springs is doing and the ad. In
the ad, Governor Newsom says, sure, you know who is
trying to stir things up back in DC, but don't
let that ruin your beach plans. California is the ultimate playground,
over two thousand miles from Washington and a world away
in mindset.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I've seen people traveling internationally with T shirts to say
things like not my president, to which I say, you're
on vacation. Who cares what they think of you. Here's
a hot tip. When you go to Europe, you look
American and they thought you were a dumbass before Trump
was elected. Yeah, that has not changed. Please don't bring
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your political t shirts with you on vacation for your
own peace of mind.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah. A side note.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Also in terms of economically California, according to Governor Newsom,
California would be the fourth largest of any economy in
the world. Announced the state's new economic ranking yesterday after
recently released information from IMF and the US Bureau of
Economic Analysis indicated California's nominal gross domestic product now actually
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exceeds the country of Japan a four point one trillion dollars,
which is just a couple billion over what Japan would
be the United States, China, Germany in that order, and
then California if it were its own nation.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It has been long thought that Shakespeare and his wife
did not really spend much time together. Well, there's a
new letter throwing that assertion into the fire. Because it
looks like this letter has been through fire. It suggests
that maybe they may not have been such a distant couple.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
After all, I knew it.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I knew he was a good guy, yes, and she
was a good gal, that old Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Anne Hathaway is her name.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Fo y Yeah, Oh that makes me not like Anne
Hathaway even more.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Garry Shanman will continue.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That's such a stupid reaction.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
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Speaker 2 (22:20):
Swamp Watch rolls along at the top of the hours.
Means we're going to talk about some of the DC stuff,
specifically about how President Trump says there's negotiations going on
with China. China says no, but also that President Trump
is unhappy with Vladimir Putin in the most recent attack
on Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Also, Mark Zuckerberg did an interview and says social media
is over. I kind of agree, really, because I don't
look at social media barely, and I only have myself
to as a barometer. I mean, I don't know, I
don't take polls of other people's social media usage, but
I just feel like it's less of a thing that
I even look at anymore.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You're tired of it, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Tired of it. You're right exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Could be very.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Adorable claiming Gary is an old.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Gary.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
If you need to know, you have twelve years. There's
no issue. You're not an old.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
But that is the reference is great.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
The reference is great. And I worked at Universal last year.
No sucked it, so I think you should do it
just for punsies.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I only worked there for three months.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Sucked.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
That's funny. I know exactly what he said, even with
those bleeps. I could just tell I think I got
that term from your wife originally, and old. I think
I heard that from her first. Does she ever say that. Yes, Yeah,
that's where I got it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Can you sign me and my family in?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I don't even know you're going to get tens of
those requests if you work there, but I asked you first.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it's gonna be worse than working the Chargers games.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I have never asked you for tickets.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
No, you have never done that. But there are people
that do.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And I've been to games.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, but I mean it doesn't bother me because I
don't have access to them. I'm like, very very low
on the totem polse it. It doesn't bother me if
anybody's like, sorry, I have nothing.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
If anybody does.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Go to the Chargers games, the best move, by the way,
is to pretend that you don't know Shannon, so that
when she does see you and you're close enough to
the field where she's like hey, hey hey, and then
finally you oh hi me, that never happens.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Okay, So Shakespeare, Oh is this our Shakespeare music?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Please?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I feel like I'm wearing long socks with ruffles all
over and I'm a man and I have syphilis. Okay,
so apparently there was this rumor syphilis and the plague.
That's a rough, freaking season. There was this rumor that
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Shakespeare and his wife were distant, that they didn't even
live together or whatever. While there's this long forgotten fragment
of a letter addressed to the good and missus Shakespeare
that suggests that William Shakespeare may not have been such
a distant husband. After all, This fragment has gone through
(25:22):
fresh analysis by a British scholar, and they believe that
this letter proves that Shakespeare and his wife, Anne Hathaway,
may have lived together in London while he wrote some
of his greatest plays, including Hamlet and Othello. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
They said that he lived on Little Trinity Lane, right
there in the central part of London, a street that's
still there, just across the Thames from the reconstructed Globe Theater,
where some of the plays by the great Bard are
still performed.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It is said that Anne Hathaway was the one who
came up with to be or not to be? That
is the question.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I did not ever know that I made that up.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Oh, I thought it added a little something.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Why can't you just be his wife and be happy?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, she had to have some inspiration. Doesn't your wife
have inspiration in your craftsmanship?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
There is.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
There is a single Shakespearean sonnet that appears to contain
an enigmatic reference to Anne.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Which I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
About your name.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Traditional interpretation of the marriage, mostly embraced over the last
two hundred years, is based in part in the fact
they didn't have any evidence that they ever actually lived
together in London, bolstered by his mean will in which
he left his wife the second best bed.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Hmmm. Shakespeare biographers favor the narrative of a disastrous marriage,
but they think that as every married person knows, you know,
there's a there's highs, there's lows. You got to weather
the storm, and it seems like the storm happened at
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the end because she got the second best bed.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
If someone took snapshots of random moments in your marriage,
there's a chance that it comes off looking wrong, just
depending on which snapshot they have. And that's all we
have of these of this relationship, since it was, oh,
I don't know, five hundred years ago, right like yesterday.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
If somebody took a snapshot of you and your speedo
out in the backyard practicing your Universal Studio's Tour Guide
audition with your wife, and the look on her face
as she passed by the window and saw what you
were doing, you would think that she hated you.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Right, I've seen that look on her face, But.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
That was just a snapshot in time, and it usually
goes away after like forty five minutes or an hour, right,
And I was trying to explain to her at that time.
There are a couple of instances where water is introduced
in do the tour Tram, I mean, when Jaws comes
up to it, or when you go through that little
quaint Mexican village where the flash flood comes along. These
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are all things you got to pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And if they take a snapshot of the next four
months when she refuses to have sex with you, that
will also look bad to a historian.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
To a historian, would look bad to me.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Up next Swamp Watch, we're gonna do tech talk with
Mark Saltzman coming around. A strange science comes up a
little bit later as well, and why a strange science
story that I found this morning. Why dogs are so great,
oh so much better than humans, just miles and miles.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Above according to science According to science.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
All Right, you missed any part of the show, go
back out and check out the podcast.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Is what I meant to say.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
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or on the iHeart app. Just type in Gary and Shannon.
You'll find all of our past episodes there, including the
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Speaker 4 (29:01):
Stuff you don't hear during the week.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Why social media is over, Trump Versus China, and the
NFL Draft. It's all coming up next on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
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This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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on the iHeartRadio app saveral twenty fourth stories we are
following for you today. Well, Trump's not going to like this.
An ap Nork Center for Public Affairs Research poll suggests
that Americans trump trust in Trump to bolster the economy
(00:22):
is faltering. Survey finds many people fear the country is
being steered into a recession and that has broad and
haphazardly enforced tariffs will cause prices to rise.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I mentioned earlier that we were doing the story about
trying to break the four minute mile for women?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What Ale Gary wearing?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Chuck Taylor's damn Gary and Tolo.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
It's Gary.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
What's up, homie?
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Now that's cool.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
I used to work Chuck Taylor's too. Yeah, well I
still do. I still have. They're blue, They're not the originals.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
China has denied any suggestion that it is an active
negotiations with the administration in Washington over tariffs, saying, as
you mentioned, and I just can't I can't stop reading
this enough that any notion of progress in the matter
is as groundless as trying to catch the wind.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Gosh, so poetic.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
The State Senate Revenue and Taxation Committee has voted out
of a committee a bill that aims at expanding and
retooling the state's film and television tax credit program. Vastly
important issue when it comes to us here in southern California,
and kfi's Heather Brooker has been helping us cover this story.
So SB six thirty now goes to the full Senate
for consideration.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
So this is a huge hurdle for all of the
people who have been supporting these bills, these two bills
that are moving through the House and the Senate.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
And yeah, so they've just.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Passed through the House on Tuesday, the Senate yesterday. They
have one more hearing to get through next week with
the House, and then it goes to the budget review
and that is going to be the biggest turtle. They
have to justify the expense and they have to find
out if we have money in the coffers here in
California to be able to afford this massive increase in
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the tax credit.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What is what are the odds this is all for?
Not this is all just urinating into the wind that
is so hard to catch.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I love that you asked that because we kind of
talked about that a little bit yesterday. You had a
great question about, you know, manufacturing going overseas, now film
and television is going overseas. How can we keep this here?
Is this all pointless? And I had the opportunity yesterday
to speak with Rebecca Ryan. She is the Western executive
director of the DGA, and also she is the leader
(02:38):
of the Entertainment Coalition Union and Keep California Rolling. And
she has been on the Senate floor, the House floor
all this whole time speaking to them, advocating for one
hundred thousand or so you know, people who are supporting
this bill. So she said that it's obvious that filmmaking
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in californ Wornia is important. It's integral to who we are.
That's why so many other people want it. And I
think you have a little clip from the conversation I
had with her.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
What we know is that every other place in the
world appears to want to attract and take this and
take this work overseas and take this work out of California.
So clearly there's value. But the other thing we know
is that this industry is really at a tipping point
(03:29):
in California, and we have to do something if we
want this industry to survive here. This is a worker
led effort to keep this industry and these jobs in
the state of California, because once you hollow that out,
(03:49):
you're not going to recover. And I don't it'd be
hard to think of another industry more identified with California
than the entertainment.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, does hail mary?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I mean, I think so.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I think it's a hail Mary, but I think that
it is, from their perspective, a good bill that's going
to bring jobs.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
She said, it's not a seventy yard hail Mary.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I was just trying.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I was just going to google starting quarterback bad arm.
That's what I was just going to google.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
When you throw in the twenty two year old second
string quarterback of a massive I get a.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Little rust on a football mind. But I couldn't think
of anybody.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But your point that and her point as well, that
this is a worker led.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Activity.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
They said that they got more than one hundred thousand
letters sent to lawmakers and Sacramento to urge the passage
of these bills.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I think that's been effective because it passed both
committees to move forward unanimously. So far, no one has
voted it down or rejected it at all. So that's
why it's I think moving forward, and I do believe
it will move forward pretty quickly. She has said multiple
time are in a conversation, this is a job's bill.
The main goal and the reason why they're able to
get this funding is because the tax credit will create jobs.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
That's the hope.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
That's the goal, and honestly, that's what we need in
California right now. So they're also good paying jobs. They're
not you know, minimum wage jobs. They are going to
be good paying jobs in the film industry. So right now,
it goes to the hearing next week, then it goes
up for the budget review, then it will go to
the full Senate and full Legislature for vote.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And we know that the governor has been in support
of bills like this. I don't know has he said
anything specifically about these as he's.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Very much behind this.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
This is he is working in tandem with them, and
he is very much supporting this bill. He has come
out publicly and said many times that he wants to
revamp this. It's you know it's been since two thousand
and nine.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, and it's on his ass. I mean, I can
see the political attack ads now. Sure, the guy running
for president is the guy that drove you know, Mickey
Mouse out of Hollywood. You know that kind of stuff.
It's easy to sandbag him.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Nobody wants to be like, have that happen on there?
Exactly because California truly is known at weird, known for
filming here.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
If we lose that industry, yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
No, matter what you think about celebrities and you know,
politics and all of that, that's that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It is, all right. So Universal Studios is hosting open
call auditions for studio tour guides. We talked about it yesterday.
Gary's thinking about throwing his hat in there. I was
driving last night. I heard Heather Brooker on the Conway
Show talking about, well, guess what Heather Brooker had this job.
She's got great insights into what it takes.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
And why I can't be higher.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh well, the bar's pretty high. It's not just like,
oh I think I want to do this and then
you just go do it. That wasn't my impression of.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
You Sure sounded like it.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, No, no, but here's the good thing. Is what I
gathered from her is it's pretty much the whole field
as actors, and you're an adult theater Maven.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI ams.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And we talked about Universal Studios here in Hollywood hosting
open coll additions. Happened to listen to Conway last night
and Heather Brooker was on talking about her experience in.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
That Now listen, I actually saw this before you did too.
I saw it yesterday morning, and I did look at
the ad because I thought, what a fun little job
that would be, what a delightful side hustle, especially considering
a it's right across I mean, it's right over the
hill there, right, and I could do that. After I
(07:33):
did this, we could My wife even suggested that we
do it together, that you and I audition as a team,
so that we could then do the tours as a team.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right. So, when I was listening to Heather, she said
that everyone's an actor basically that hold on, go get
her you only we had a way of communicating, he's
(08:13):
get she's coming, she doesn't need to come in here.
Oh my god, freaking Jesus. Mary and Joseph. Anyway, Heather
was talking to Conway and she said that, like the
field was like three hundred people or whatever, and they
whittle it down to like twenty five. And it's like
(08:36):
a cattle call where you go and they know within
like seconds whether or not.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Sorry, no worries, it's going to hand off with Amy. Amy.
I love her, but she likes her.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
He's a yapper. She's a yapper.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
He likes to hang out with me, and I miss her, Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So I was just saying how you said it, and
I'm paraphrasing here because I was just like in the
car driving but you there was like three hundred people
or whatever. It's like a cattle call, and that they know.
And you said your class is about twenty five people
and that your first audition, they know within seconds like
if they want you or not.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yes. So it's really competitive.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
And back then, now they do videos where they have
people send in video. I think that changed during COVID,
But back then, there would be sometimes five or six
hundred people that would show up for the tour Guide
open call and we would go in and the managers
were there and they would literally sit down with you
for just a few seconds. You would basically say hi,
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introduce yourself a little bit, and then they would be like, okay,
we'll call you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And then that was it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Like if you got the call, that means you impress
them in your thirty seconds, wait to bring a headshot
and resume, and then from there. It was very much
like an American Idol process. The manager at the time
was a big fan of American Idol and those reality
competition shows, so he would set it up like okay,
contestant number two, number seve, number twelve fourteen, I'm sorry,
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you will not be moving forward.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And it was like, I don't need that stress.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
That's what I was thinking. I was like, Gary would
not like that.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It was very dramatic, very intense.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And you have to be on right away, right like
it's like you're doing a bit from go.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They very much looked for people who were had that
bubbly personality, had improv experience, comedians, actors, people who can
sit on a tram and talk forever, like if a
ride or something goes down like that happened a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
We had what was called like filler stall material.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
So the stall material that I was assigned to learn
and memorize. Was all about weather effects on a studio lot,
so that if there was an accident up ahead, or
a ride went down or something like that, I could
talk for three to five minutes about weather effects and.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Bore people to tear the special effects, how they make weather,
or they the effect that weather would have while you're
shooting something.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Special effects, weather, special effects in filming. So how they
made the snow and how they made rain.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So this was before though I think you said it
was like early two thousands. You did this. I two
thousand and seven, okay, two thousand and seven. So now
everyone's got their phones. So I wonder how much stall
tactics or whatever phil you actually have to do because
now everyone, you know, the ride breaks down or what
have you. Everyone's on their phones.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Anyway, I'll tell you it is a lot of the
same practices because even though everyone's on their phones, the
tour guides are not allowed to be on their phone.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
We have a lot of video clips.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
There's a whole video like you know roster that you
can pull up lots of old clips from films, you know, compilations,
that sort of thing to fill time. And but the
tour guys are not allowed to be on their phone
one time. I remember you, guys, I was really I
probably wasn't the best tour.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm gonna be really honest with you. I probably should
have been fired multiple times. I don't think you should
work certain words into your tour. But anyway, all right,
So I I had forgotten one time to turn my
mic off, and I was talking to the driver about
what we were going to do later after work and
going out and partying and all this stuff. After we
get off the tour, this woman comes up to me
(12:12):
and she was like, I just want you to know
we heard every word you said about where you guys
are going tonight and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
And I was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Have a good day.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I was like, it was such a fun job, and
I don't think I took it very seriously. But there
are people who've been there.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
For life life to know about Universal Studios, Like do
you have handbooks? Yes, you have to know a lot
going into the audition.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
You do not have to know a lot going into
the audition. It's not like they test you on your
knowledge beforehand. But they have three weeks of training and
testing once you get hired.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And did people shoot questions at you, like questions to try.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
To stop you or not? Oh you mean during training
or during the tour. During the tour No, not really
generally people just honestly, I think they use it as
a time to sit down and rest their feet from
walking all through.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
The park at Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
People do wild stuff on the tram though, a lot
of sex stuff really that.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
They think we can't see, Like what I don't know
if I should see?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Do it?
Speaker 7 (13:13):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You're in a safe space.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
This is no one listening. Is that what you're like?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Can stuff?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
My gosh?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, hand stuff? Now what were the words that you
use that you should not have?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I think I said shart a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Oh my god, Now that is too crass for this show.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Now, dare you?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Oh my god?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Why do you think?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Why did you think I wasn't gonna Is it because
of the stress of the American Idol style?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't think you would enjoy that, but I think
it would make for a really good story for the
show that you auditioned.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
I mean, I kind of agree. I think that would
be really fun. And you're old you're an old I'm sorry.
I think most of the people are gonna be like
twenty something. You know, I thought that too, but I
was one of the older ones there. There was a
handful of us that were older, and you know, this
was fifteen years ago and I was still one of
the older ones.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, so everyone's going to be nineteen years old. It's
auditioning for this.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Most people do it I think as like a summer job,
something fun. But then there are the lifers, the people
who've been there forever.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You have to wear something wacky, though, something do I
with more personality, Heather?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Would that help me stand out? I mean I think
so they'd be like, Wow, this guy has personality.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
You need to wear something with personality.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Because you cannot be afraid to talk to one hundred
and fifty people out your face.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Your face. You're right now, you.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Guys are going to be the best coaches ever. Listen,
if you do it, I will help you. We will
go and we will lift the veil on some of
America's most popular filming locations.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Or if I'd have to fill out like a full
NDA so that I couldn't tell them look at you.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
With all your privilege. You even have like a pro
coach in your corner.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I'm ready, let's do it. I support that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You're like Hillary Swank and billion dollar Baby. She's like
your Clint east Wood.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
You'd be my hype man.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I would be, Yeah, you're damn right. I would be,
and I'd beat the s out of you town.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I've just come out of the first Interview'd be like,
cut me, cut me. Yeah, you could do it. You
could do it. You could do it.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
You would totally pass with flying colors. If anything, we
should at least get you on the tram and just
see how you do.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I think we should shoot video of this. All right
to be continued.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Yeah, it was last week.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
I didn't hear the content. Oh Easter Sunday, Well, not
everybody is in town and they're scheduling. And you've never
done a holiday on a different day too.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
If you don't get it the first time, you gotta
wait till next year. I think that's the way it goes.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
I was a tour guide back in the day at Universal.
It was so great. Yes, the audition process was crazy
and what you have to memorize. I still have the
book and it is a giant binder, three ring binder.
I think you guys should audition.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
It is a fun job.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Trust me, you're not going to make any money, but
it's still fun.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
That sounds like a long day to me. Sitting in
the tram like in the summer months as sweat and
just awful.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean in the valley gets warm, I know, going
from as an example, on a Thursday, if I leave
here at one and my first tram ride is at
two and then I got however many tram rides you do?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
How many do you do? You do an average of
probably four to five? How long eight hour shift? Yeah,
the shift's eight hours.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
So it's a union job. So breaks, our manatory breaks
are built in.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't want to break. I just want to blow
through that day.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It it's AATSI. Oh it is okay, AATSI.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I think that's a fun thing to say.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Gary, Gary, we need this. I need this. You need
to do this for us.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
This could be our summer job together.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
We need this.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I I'm pulling for you.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Gary, Come on, Gary, Gary, Gary, Gary.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Somebody said, well, it's kind of mean say it that
has never prepreded you from saying it before. Because it's
from me, I don't like it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
When other then I'll pretend it's from you.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Somebody said something to the effect.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Of too old, no, too fat, No, it's too white.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
D Yeah, but I can, I can, I can act,
I can act.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Not that way.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Let's try that for the next segment.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Speaking of which, by the way, in the last few months,
business owners vendors along the Hollywood Walk of Fames say
they have noticed a slowdown in foot traffic in which
should be.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
A busy season.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Stir Well, that's the part that I'm not I don't
think anybody is adding into this. They're saying that they
reported California the entire state. The Visit California Tourism Board
reported about a nine percent drop in international arrivals to
California in February twenty five compared to February of twenty four.
(18:24):
Marty Minogue, an employee one World Tour, said, my boss
has been out here twenty six years and says it's
the slowest he's ever seen. It could be any number
of things. People don't like the political atmosphere in the
United States. They don't want to give money to the
United States. They could be concerned about wildfires because remember,
we here in Southern California know how isolated geographically the
(18:47):
fires were. But if you live in I just say Tokyo,
and you don't have an idea of how big Southern
California is, maybe you think the whole place was on fire.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
A lot of catting for political reasons. My aunt has
a bunch of friends in Palm Desert and says that
they're Canadian snowbirds, but at least a couple of them
selling their homes now there you usually had the Canadian
and you saw this. I think that was last week.
That Palm Springs is kind of like starting this pr
effort to keep the Canadians right. But I didn't know
(19:22):
some of them have bought there and some of them
now selling some part of that Canadian community because they
just don't want to deal with the anti Canada vibe.
Visited visits from Canadians were down twelve percent in February
from twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That tracks with other international visitors. The International Trade Association
says they're down. International visitors down twelve percent this March
compared to March of last year, and your point about
trying to lure those closest international visitors Canadians back into California.
Governor k NewsOne elnse to campaign, it's kind of piggybacking
(20:01):
on what Palm Springs is doing and the ad. In
the ad, Governor Newsom says, sure, you know who is
trying to stir things up back in DC, but don't
let that ruin your beach plans. California is the ultimate playground,
over two thousand miles from Washington and a world away
in mindset.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I've seen people traveling internationally with T shirts to say
things like not my president, to which I say, you're
on vacation. Who cares what they think of you. Here's
a hot tip. When you go to Europe, you look
American and they thought you were a dumbass before Trump
was elected. Yeah, that has not changed. Please don't bring
(20:42):
your political t shirts with you on vacation for your
own peace of mind.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah. A side note.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Also in terms of economically California, according to Governor Newsom,
California would be the fourth largest of any economy in
the world. Announced the state's new economic ranking yesterday after
recently released information from IMF and the US Bureau of
Economic Analysis indicated California's nominal gross domestic product now actually
(21:12):
exceeds the country of Japan a four point one trillion dollars,
which is just a couple billion over what Japan would
be the United States, China, Germany in that order, and
then California if it were its own nation.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
It has been long thought that Shakespeare and his wife
did not really spend much time together. Well, there's a
new letter throwing that assertion into the fire. Because it
looks like this letter has been through fire. It suggests
that maybe they may not have been such a distant couple.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
After all, I knew it.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I knew he was a good guy, yes, and she
was a good gal, that old Shakespeare.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Anne Hathaway is her name.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Fo y Yeah, Oh that makes me not like Anne
Hathaway even more.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Garry Shanman will continue.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That's such a stupid reaction.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I agree. I agree.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Swamp Watch rolls along at the top of the hours.
Means we're going to talk about some of the DC stuff,
specifically about how President Trump says there's negotiations going on
with China. China says no, but also that President Trump
is unhappy with Vladimir Putin in the most recent attack
on Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Also, Mark Zuckerberg did an interview and says social media
is over. I kind of agree, really, because I don't
look at social media barely, and I only have myself
to as a barometer. I mean, I don't know, I
don't take polls of other people's social media usage, but
I just feel like it's less of a thing that
I even look at anymore.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
You're tired of it, Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Tired of it. You're right exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Could be very.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
Adorable claiming Gary is an old.
Speaker 7 (23:10):
Gary.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
If you need to know, you have twelve years. There's
no issue. You're not an old.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
But that is the reference is great.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
The reference is great. And I worked at Universal last year.
No sucked it, so I think you should do it
just for punsies.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I only worked there for three months.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Sucked.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
That's funny. I know exactly what he said, even with
those bleeps. I could just tell I think I got
that term from your wife originally, and old. I think
I heard that from her first. Does she ever say that. Yes, Yeah,
that's where I got it.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Can you sign me and my family in?
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I don't even know you're going to get tens of
those requests if you work there, but I asked you first.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it's gonna be worse than working the Chargers games.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I have never asked you for tickets.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
No, you have never done that. But there are people
that do.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
And I've been to games.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, but I mean it doesn't bother me because I
don't have access to them. I'm like, very very low
on the totem polse it. It doesn't bother me if
anybody's like, sorry, I have nothing.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
If anybody does.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Go to the Chargers games, the best move, by the way,
is to pretend that you don't know Shannon, so that
when she does see you and you're close enough to
the field where she's like hey, hey hey, and then
finally you oh hi me, that never happens.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Okay, So Shakespeare, Oh is this our Shakespeare music?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Please?
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I feel like I'm wearing long socks with ruffles all
over and I'm a man and I have syphilis. Okay,
so apparently there was this rumor syphilis and the plague.
That's a rough, freaking season. There was this rumor that
(25:02):
Shakespeare and his wife were distant, that they didn't even
live together or whatever. While there's this long forgotten fragment
of a letter addressed to the good and missus Shakespeare
that suggests that William Shakespeare may not have been such
a distant husband. After all, This fragment has gone through
(25:22):
fresh analysis by a British scholar, and they believe that
this letter proves that Shakespeare and his wife, Anne Hathaway,
may have lived together in London while he wrote some
of his greatest plays, including Hamlet and Othello. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
They said that he lived on Little Trinity Lane, right
there in the central part of London, a street that's
still there, just across the Thames from the reconstructed Globe Theater,
where some of the plays by the great Bard are
still performed.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
It is said that Anne Hathaway was the one who
came up with to be or not to be? That
is the question.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I did not ever know that I made that up.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Oh, I thought it added a little something.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Why can't you just be his wife and be happy?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Well, she had to have some inspiration. Doesn't your wife
have inspiration in your craftsmanship?
Speaker 4 (26:14):
There is.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
There is a single Shakespearean sonnet that appears to contain
an enigmatic reference to Anne.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Which I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
About your name.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Traditional interpretation of the marriage, mostly embraced over the last
two hundred years, is based in part in the fact
they didn't have any evidence that they ever actually lived
together in London, bolstered by his mean will in which
he left his wife the second best bed.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Hmmm. Shakespeare biographers favor the narrative of a disastrous marriage,
but they think that as every married person knows, you know,
there's a there's highs, there's lows. You got to weather
the storm, and it seems like the storm happened at
(27:05):
the end because she got the second best bed.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
If someone took snapshots of random moments in your marriage,
there's a chance that it comes off looking wrong, just
depending on which snapshot they have. And that's all we
have of these of this relationship, since it was, oh,
I don't know, five hundred years ago, right like yesterday.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
If somebody took a snapshot of you and your speedo
out in the backyard practicing your Universal Studio's Tour Guide
audition with your wife, and the look on her face
as she passed by the window and saw what you
were doing, you would think that she hated you.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Right, I've seen that look on her face, But.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
That was just a snapshot in time, and it usually
goes away after like forty five minutes or an hour, right,
And I was trying to explain to her at that time.
There are a couple of instances where water is introduced
in do the tour Tram, I mean, when Jaws comes
up to it, or when you go through that little
quaint Mexican village where the flash flood comes along. These
(28:09):
are all things you got to pay attention to.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
And if they take a snapshot of the next four
months when she refuses to have sex with you, that
will also look bad to a historian.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
To a historian, would look bad to me.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Up next Swamp Watch, we're gonna do tech talk with
Mark Saltzman coming around. A strange science comes up a
little bit later as well, and why a strange science
story that I found this morning. Why dogs are so great,
oh so much better than humans, just miles and miles.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Above according to science According to science.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
All Right, you missed any part of the show, go
back out and check out the podcast.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Is what I meant to say.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
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or on the iHeart app. Just type in Gary and Shannon.
You'll find all of our past episodes there, including the
specials that we do on the weekends.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Stuff you don't hear during the week.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Why social media is over, Trump Versus China, and the
NFL Draft. It's all coming up next on Gary and Shannon.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
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