February 7, 2023 • 41 mins
There have been many different hires for NFL teams these past couple of weeks since the post-season has kicked off. The guys give their thoughts on Brian Flores being hired as defensive coordinator of the Vikings, AJ Green calling it a career for good, Trent Dilfer’s comments about Brady and Rodgers and much more. Jonas is looking forward to a great week at Radio Row as it really starts to kick off in Phoenix, Arizona! Plus, another special segment of over/unders Super Bowl style.
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new defensive coordinator the Minnesota Vikings. But what's strange is
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yesterday we talked about the three finalists for the Arizona
car was head coaching job. One was Flores. Then you
had lou Ana Rumo from the Cincinnati Bengals and Mike Kafka.
So why did Brian Flores say, you know what, I'd
rather go be a d C for the Minnesota Vikings
and not partaking this in this search? Did he get
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the indication you think that's impressive? Did you get the
impressive it? Did he get the invitation or inclination that
it wasn't gonna go that way? You got the invitation.
I've got a lot of questions, I mean for starters,
like where's the lawsuit at? Is that still heard anything
about it? Well? Because like I would think that if
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you if you're up for a head coaching job, unless
they've given him notice, there's not getting it. But nothing
was nothing's come out publicly. He hasn't said anything. You
you think that the turtleneck, you'd think that he would
want to keep his name in it until Minnesota could
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figre your things out, unless maybe Minnesota said, hey, this
DC job is not gonna be here for you. And
he really doesn't want to go back to Pittsburgh. He
wants to at least be a d C, if not
be a head coach. So he took what was there,
but it is it is just a bit odd that
if he really wanted to be a head coach again.
And by the way, he's the most qualified candidate of
those three, right, Cathkin and Rumbo have not ever been
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a head coach before. Flores is a good win loss record.
You know. I don't know if they were hesitant about
how he handled things with TWA, and maybe they're concerned
about what that would be with Kyler. But I mean,
Heat to me was the guy that was most deserving
or should have been a guy to come in and
take over that job. Like if you want someone to
leave with a strong fist, he'd be that guy to
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do it and try to at least get you know,
Kyler to you know, not have those outbursts like we
saw in the field and conduct himself the way he did.
It might be flores that that wants to avoid that Murray. Yeah,
I think so because if you you're in a situation
where you come up short as the hey coach for
a second time, and it's based off of a quarterback scenario.
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By the way, come up short Kyler Murray like that?
Did you like that? It's so disrespectful? Unbelievably so it
was disrespectful. Are you saying that he was sitting on
the curb swinging his legs? That junk had me laughing
all day yesterday. But I ain't go laugh to you.
Do you know how many jokes he has about people?
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But what's bad about it is is that I got
a mental digital of Kydler Murray's sitting on the curb
swinging his legs. But he does this as old short
people like me. Okay, you can't see any other short
person joke. What do you I mean? These aren't jokes.
I've heard that, you know when they used to play
hide and see Kyler Murray used to, you know, take
cover behind the shot glass again. I don't know, like
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I'm not I'm just reporting on this. He's the things
that he's got his back pocket for what reason, I
don't know me If you would, if you could, you
have said one of the cupboards, If you would have
said one of the cupboards in the kitchen he was
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at and one of those that that would have probably
been funny. But I just I think that Floras. I
think Floras puts himself in a position to rebuild what
he what he left or what he wants was by
being a defensive coordinator. I think you you he got
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an opportunity to get back in with a position group.
Now you've becoming a defensive coordinator, you show that you
can have success with the defensive coordinatorship, then you kind
of give it a little bit more time to get
away from because it is still even though it's not
prevalently being spoken about the lawsuit, it's still kind of
probably freshen the owner's minds. So he's gonna like it's
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a saying he's still getting the opportunity to be a
head coach. That that probably says how good he is
as a coach on paper. But I also think that
you have to take that into consideration that he would
be willing to sue you under circumstances of his his own,
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his own interpretation, and there's a lot that can go
into that. Right, Like we said earlier about Sean Payton,
it's a restrictive private area. There are a lot of
things that take place at facilities that owners, GMS, coaches,
players are privy to and it can't leave that place.
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Ask uh, you know about the emails and with John
Wilson all that, right, Like, sometimes the inner actions are
what they are, and I would I would wonder how
people are viewing if you're gonna if you're thinking about
hiring Brian or as, how are you viewing him? How
are you looking at that? Because ultimately I know for me,
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i'd be sitting there like, hey, man, like we got
strictly business with this coach, Like I'm not. I'm not
having no no private conversations or no offline conversation. Nothing
is offline because this is what I know, this is
what happened when he was in Miami. This is what
I know. And I think that that changes the rules
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of engagement because you and I know both know and
and and football circles, it's very family oriented, it's very
homey oriented. You know, crony oriented, whatever, you know, comrade oriented,
it's very much that. So if you don't have that
element to just be free and how you speak to somebody,
that's that's kind of you got to try to figure
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out how to navigate that. Yeah, it's interesting because he's
kind of like a new age CEO, like all these
new age CEO is when I have complete transparency with
everything because they feel like everything is become public at
some point. And it's almost how you have to kind
of view hiring him. But you know, it's hard to
deny he's not a good coach. You know, they won
five games the first season. They won ten and nine
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the next two seasons in Miami. Now you might have said, well,
he couldn't figure out the quarterback position with how they
handled things with two of whatever the case. Maybe maybe
that was one of the reasons he didn't want to,
you know, go to Arizona if you felt like, I
don't know if I can win with this guy, and
I was already stuck with a quarterback that I didn't
like before. I don't want to have to do that again.
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So why not go to a defense that's got talent
in Minnesota that's got a you know, some veteran players,
some good players that I feel like I can turn
this thing around quick and be able to then have
my selection of more head coaching opportunities maybe the following
year and or a couple of years. So maybe that's
what he feels like, it's the better play for take
it over in Minnesota. Well, I don't know if he's
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gonna do that. I mean O'Connell has done a really
good job, but you just you never know. I mean,
they had a good year this year. I mean, yeah,
the defense was brutal, defense was bet but he also
was looking at like it can't get any worse, right, Yeah,
any little improvement. I've got that on my resume. By
the way, if he's just middle of the pack defensively
and actually it's as significant upgrade over where they were
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this past year. Um. But no matter who takes over
the job in Arizona, as we're live here from Arizona, No,
A J. Green calls it a career yesterday. So A J.
Green underrated career. I mean especially the first part of
his you know seven Yeah, one season he was under
a thousand yards receiving and it was because he missed
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the final six games of the year. He tore his
hamstring and then they just put him on IR the
last game he actually had that season, he had the
most receiving yards per game even though he didn't get
a thousand, and in ten games he almost had a thousand,
So it was he had a great, crazy Hall of Famer.
I mean, that's what everyone always wants to ask right away.
So I think it's hard even though the way he
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conducted himself, I mean he was for it a period
of time, like he was one of the best, most dominant.
If you go back, so Josh Gordon always got talked
about like top receiver, top receiver if you go back
to that. Well, but like when people talk about his
great season, you look at Josh Gore and that like
he kept getting chance after chance after chance. Now year
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was it, Shannon was it? Wow? Interesting? But if you
go back to that year, he I would look at
it and go a j Green pretty similar numbers wise,
Yet his seasons never really got talked about in the
same way that other wide receivers did. Is because he
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wasn't a diva. It's like Mike Evans. Mike Evans has
nine straight seasons of receiving over a thousand yards. That's
all he does. He walks in the NFL every year
a thousand yards receiving. And there's like, no, we were
never talked about it like that. It's weird, man. So
you've got to be a diva in order to get
some records. It could be partially the product that the
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game is now, you know where people just feel like
it's easier to accumulate stats. Yeah, you almost has he
number one? Yeah? Than or is he number two? He
should have thousand narrows receiving? I mean you asked Trent Dilfory.
I mean he's not impressed by it. He's not well, look,
I mean maybe we get to that next thing. Yeah
he uh that was was it? Rogers and Brady doesn't?
Do we have the sound on that? Yeah? We had
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some trental for you want to we'll we'll we'll hear
from Trent dal for here until we get to it.
That's a good point. It's a great point about those. Uh.
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That the the credit we're gonna give on this thirty
for thirty. So we're looking at here. That's what I
have on the alright, So he had he Trent dilfor
the Super Bowl winning quarterback back in the day. Now
the head coach is at U A B. Is that
he's the head coach there. Yes, Trent a brand new
head coach. He was at Lipscomb Academy UH in Nashville,
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one of the top high school football programs in the country,
and he had this to say about a couple of
quarterbacks in the NFL. Modern day game does not impress me.
It's super easy when you don't get hit as a quarterback,
and when you can't reroute receivers and when you can't
hit guys across the middle. I love Tom Brady, I
love Baron Rodgers. I love these guys. It's not impressive.
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What's impressive is what they did. So how about it?
Who's your pointing too? And he said what they did?
I think he's pointing out Brady and Rodgers, isn't he No,
he's calling out with the games that today and some
I'm saying, there's other people there in the crowd. I
wasn't exactly sure who he's pointing to what they did.
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I think the general consensus is he's discussing probably the
rules and how they're set up to protect quarterbacks now
versus what they were back then. I could rattle off
quarterbacks that would be better than him when he played.
Look a, probably starters in the league right now, and
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if they were on the same team as Trent deal for,
he wouldn't be starting. You mean that even team didn't
win because of the quarterback. So what you're trying to say?
I would say this, though, Um what strikes me is
like I just I don't really understand, Like if you,
I guess you want to question the direction of the
league's going because of how they're protecting quarterbacks. Okay, that's
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that's fair, that's fine. It's not like what it used
to be. But they also understand that when you lose
your starting quarterback, I mean even a guy who was
the third string starting quarterback in the NFC Championship game
when they lost them, they had nothing. And so that's
usually what happens to a season for most teams that
lose their starting quarterback. They're not able to overcome losing
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a start and having a backup play well and then
a third string guy played well like the Fortys did.
That's a very rare circumstance. So the NFL is trying
to protect you know, the competitiveness of the game and
all the money they're making off all these TV networks
so that they can sell these games, right, But I
also feel like quarterback play is as good as it's
ever been. That's why so many young guys come into
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the league and can do what they're doing. It's not
because they're not getting hit, because I would also argue
that guys are still there as fast as they've ever been,
they hit as hard as they've ever been. It might
be different, but they're still putting hits on quarterbacks, still
doing all of that. I don't not just I'm not
sure why some people, you know, take these these shots.
I want to down these hills. So I was looking
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up because I was thinking of just and in the
Russell Wilson, but it ties back to the quarterback position
and the quality of play. So I was thinking, if
you look at the Russell Wilson scenario, big time trade
for a lot of picks goes over the first season
was a disaster. What's the comp to that? And the
only one I could come up with is Jay Cutler,
who got traded multiple first round picks, goes to the Bears.
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And I thought, yeah, but his first season wasn't as
bad as Russell Wilson. Cutler through twenty six picks that year,
is that bad? Like, but to your point on the
quarterback position, we were talking this year when Derek Carr
had the lead and he had fourteen, like we're like,
it's say half of what what was considered there, Like,
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I mean Davis Winston through thirty that wasn't that long ago.
So just in that short amount of time, you've seen
just if you just go by that category alone, they're
not like turning the ball over at rapid numbers and
that was the norm. Member Eli Manning led the league
in interceptions one year, and we're talking about him like
he's a Hall of Famer, like he's gonna go to
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the Hall of Fame. I think the protection they've provided
the receivers now being being in the act of catching
considering them defenseless, Now that's changed the game because as
a quarterback, I mean you, naturally, when you see a
guy running towards another defender, you're gonna throw the ball
behind him. It's just human nature. You don't want to
throw a pick. You want to have your guy get
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hung out to dry, and so you will. Literally you're
gonna do it as many times as you want. You
will not find a quarterback who's gonna be able to
lead his guy into that defender. Now, if you ever
see it happened in the game, I guarantee the quarterback
didn't see the defender and that's why he was able
to lead him. But naturally he sees the guy, he's
gonna try to slow him down, put on his back, shoulder,
or back him. I just I feel like now with
the way they're protected, quarterbacks feel more in Bolden to
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throw it up into tight windows and take chances because
they know those guys aren't getting hit the same way
they used to be hit. Where it was night night.
You know, those guys were hurt in a serious way
based on how defenders used to be able to play
the game. They can't play that way. Remember that Kurt
Warner and Kuwan Bolden play where he threw him. I
think he might am Kwan boldenminor broken his jaw, and
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Kurt Warner was talking about he didn't know if he
wanted to play football anymore. He felt so bad about
leading him into the hit that he just say it
really bothered him. Was that a part of the documentary?
I don't know if that was or the movie. Yeah,
I'm I'm not sure if it was. Don't worry, Lee,
that's probably all one price for the Kurt Warner movie
when you go to AMC. There's not it's not teared
pricing for that movie if you want to go check
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that out. You know, the interesting thing about what I
said I let off with I wasn't trying to be
insulting towards towards Trent Dilfer isn't he being insulting towards
Britty and Rogerson me, well, we'll think about this, like
everything you guys just said. Like, first of all, he's
thrown more interceptions. He threw more interceptions in his career
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than he did touchdowns. He did do that. Um. He
also don't say that, father, stop doing. He was also
signed to that Ravens team as a backup. He was
brought in to be it. Now, he was six overall pick.
It was a Bowler he took over. It was a
Buller after him. Buller was after I don't I don't
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recall the quarterback, but I do recall he was brought
in to be a backup. Now here's what's interesting. They
went the Super Bowl. He gets released and they've got
Elvis Gerba. He gets released after winning a super Bowl
and and basically was a backup the rest of the
way of of his career. So to me, my, my
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whole thing is, if you're going to throw throw observations
as strong as that you're not impressed by today's quarterback,
I would say, because you played the game and you
had the opportunity in a moment to to win a
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Super Bowl as a starting quarterback, like I would be
more positive about my my assessments even if I felt
in my heart what he said, I just I it.
I feel like why do that? Because when you do that,
when you shine that light on what you feel is
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not good and how you're not impressed and this and that,
then everybody's going to be like, Okay. It's easy to
say a report order like, oh, you're a reporter, you
never played, like you don't know anything, and it's kind
of like you brush it off. But this guy did play,
and he is a super Bowl chat So people are
going to start dissecting you. They're going to start looking
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at your body of work. I already saw some guy
tagged a clip or dil for air bail. There's a
wide open um go route on the sideline and he
just threw it out a bounce and like that. That's
the response you're gonna get from a lot of people,
right like, and it's not going to be unwarranted. The
problem here about somebody having that in their back pocket.
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It was a clip from like twenties some years ago.
And listen, he might be a fine coach. I don't
think this has anything to do with him. He's a
he's a good guy too. And that's why I don't
really understand it, because what you really could do and
what you could say, and I think, like I fall
victim to this. Sometimes things don't come out the way
I want to portray them always, or I don't communicate
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it the proper way. But what you what you could
say is, you know, look, the game was harder to play.
It was harder to play quarterback back then like that.
That's all you need to say is it was hard
because it's more physical and he would be right well,
and by the way he would be, you could reach out.
Nobody would have a problem with You could reach out
to Tom Brady and go, hey, Tom, you were winning
super Bowls during this era, would you agree, like you
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were getting hit worse than you know you were. You know,
in an era where we had dropped back a little bit,
We weren't shotgun a ton. It was a lot of
you know, play action, you know, other things off of it.
It wasn't like the game is now where one and
a half. At one point you got two steps, then
it went down to one and a half. But it
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was always no, no less than one and a half.
Like you could get if you got one and a
half as the balls released, like like, let's like think
about this ball's release one two hit right now, So
you don't you don't even get that type of space
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the I mean, you touch them the wrong way, it's
a flag. So to me, I mean, we were slamming quarterbacks,
we were taking them down to the ground. Him, You
can him however you wanted to hit him. And and
so I would say if if he was just pointing
out the obvious that it was more brutal, there was
more brutality towards quarterbacks in his era, that's fine. But
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to say I'm I'm not impressed, that's like, come on man, now,
now you're basically saying like, well, you know, the whole
argument if if Michael Jordan played in today's NBA, he
would be averaging such and such and such like because
you can't touch them like s Michael Jordan's s Michael Jordan's,
well you get you don't have an argument against that.
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I just don't know how you can't be impressed considering
how how it's Trent Offer. I mean, Tom Brady's turning. Okay,
so mate, they're like four or five years apart and
how long have you been out of the game. Well,
and that I just look at it and go, what's
not impressive about that? The fact that the guy has
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been able to play at such a high level for
so long, I mean even this past year. Say whatever
you want about it, he's still hit. I mean the
marks for being a guy that you look at, you say,
he's one of the top quarterbacks in the league without
much you know, running running help with when watch balance
in their offense, without you know, great protection all the time.
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I just led attempt his final two years in the
NFL at forty and his body of work is just
not good enough for him to lob out a a
criticism like that. Even if it was like I mean,
even if he was I'm not even sure, Like even
it was Joe Montana saying it, I just look at
it and go, okay, But like, why do you have
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to phrase it like that? Like, but it's Joe Montana
And you could be like, you know what, like he's flexing,
that's a flex Like it might not even be true,
but it's Joe Montana, Like Joe Montana said, if you're
like Joe Montana, if Joe Montana was in this era,
Joe Montana would be throwing touchdowns or doing this Like, okay,
that's a discussion point. It's a discussion, but it's like
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if you haven't achieved to that level, people are going
to to Now, even with Joe Montana, people are going
to be like, well, what did Joe Montana do? You're
gonna look at what Joe maa, Oh, that's what Joe
Montana did because you brought that, you brought that attention
your way back with that criticism. That's all I'm saying.
Whether it's true or not. Yeah, whether it's true or not,
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I get that. But we get pundits in the media
who say stuff all the time and then and then
they haven't played. So it's it is what it is.
And you're going to get around my points. Just look,
you can just say it in a different way where
you don't have to look like you're being caddy. You're
taking a shot of guys. I mean Tom Brady's yeah,
you know what I mean, Tombody's doing something will never
see anyone do again. And and to sit there and
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say like, I don't know how that's not impressive. I
really don't. And I think you know, even though the
games were spread out and maybe it's easier to throw
the football at times, I still do think there's an
elements of the game that have gotten more difficult. You
know that with the speed of the defensive players, all
the different looks, different things they can do, there are
some more difficulties that the game has gotten for a
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quarterback than what it used to be. And the skill
level for quarterbacks is significantly, the skill level of everyone
is significantly. I was just gonna so I remember talking
to T. J. Houshman Zada, who, by the way, you
can hear with LaVar and up on game right before
the jail and the Jon is not shoe big time,
and he was saying that it starts so young that
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you go to some of these camps and these high
schoolers or kids getting into high school that are playing
receiver are just on another level. And it just you've
seen it over the past couple of years, how many
wide receivers go in the draft every single year, second
third after specialized. It's so much specialized training like it
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just it was never like this. It was never like
this to this capacity of specialized training. And that's a
difference that that's the difference. If you're doing skill development
from seven eight years old and you're doing that all
the way up until you're in college, like you are
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going to have refined movements. You're going to have I
don't know about the understanding of it all. I'm not
not really sure about that. But in terms of just
purely you're gonna run this route, here's the route, and
knowing how to get off of a press or knowing
how to run a route or get to the top
of the route or change the route, double moves, all
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those different things. You have a ton of skill to
go with what it is that you're doing these days,
much different than any other era of time. Playing Trent
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think Jonas will start with news from the NFL, where
the Kansas City Chiefs activated running back Clyde Edwards Laire
off of injured reserve. He had an ankle injury. They
placed wide receiver McCole Hardman on injured reserve with a
pelvis injury. We had fore Quarteryd brock Purty looking like
he is going to have surgery for that torn U
(30:51):
c L in his elbow. And twelve year NFL veteran
wide receiver and seven time Pro bowler A. J. Green
announcing his retirement. He had played for the Bengals and
the Cardinals. Some coaching news in the NFL, the Vikings
or iiring Steelers assistant and former Dolphin's head coach Brian
Flores as their defensive coordinator, and the New Orleans Saints
are hiring former Brown's defensive cordina Joe Woods for that
same position with their team. In the NBA, Celtics over
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the Pistons one eleven ninety nine Boston League best thirty
eight and sixteen on the season. Clay Thompson goes for
forty two points. He had twelve three pointers, leading the
Warriors over one over the thunder fourteen Bucks knockoff the
Trailblazers one seven, one oh eight. That's eight straight wins
for Milwaukee. The Nets lose to the Clippers one sixteen
in their first game since the trade of Kyrie Irving. Meanwhile,
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the Mavericks were in Utah to take on the Jazz.
Kyrie Irving did not make his debut in that one
for Dallas and they didn't have start Luca Dodgers, but
they still beat Utah one eleven. College basketball Number nine
Kansas knocked off the first place team in the Big twelve,
Number five Texas eight eight to eight. In the final,
Number nineteen Miami de beats Duke one to fifty nine.
And finally, in the NHL first action since the All
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seven and one, Rangers get by the Flames five four,
and overtime Islanders edge the Flyers two to one. Note
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to lap. What do we got As far as today's
edition of over Hey, Fellas, I made it back. I
made it back, and the toes are rough pebin stuff
(35:11):
like fellas. I have to ask over under his number
of proposals by a player on the field after the
game at a half under. Hold on, I think about
the rosters and the teams. Right, you got Philly East Coast,
the guys probably most of either settled down and they're single,
and they're not trying to settle down. Casey Midwest a
(35:34):
little more wholesome. There's gonna be someone on that roster
might be proposing I'm gonna take the over all right,
I mean, because Casey's more wholesome. You think that that's
the I'm just saying that, I think there could be
a player, you know, Midwest City all that, you know,
over under and a half romantic, I'm still going with under. Yeah,
I'm gonna take the under. Alright, fellas over under yards
(35:59):
for a j. Brown through the Air seventy two and
a half, I'm gonna say the over Dudley Brown Super Bowl.
I'm gonna take the over. Yeah, I definitely gonna take
the under on that. Lee guys, Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts.
(36:22):
There's an over under for the longest completion thirty seven
a half. Pretty standard. Who has the longest completion in
the game? Is it Patrick Mahomes or Jalen Hurts. That's
a tough I'm going with m hm m m. I'm
gonna say mahomies, I'm gonna go with hurts. I mean,
I at least know the for the football more that. Yeah,
(36:45):
But I think there's other guys that to make it
a bigger play little play action, little play action, little stretch,
a little a little run action. Yeah, that's the new one,
the run action. Yeah. So you get guys like LaVar
to suck up the it's running. You have to though.
They got for Russell Wilson calling it out though or
else you wouldn't know, you know, because that I'll take
(37:09):
out jail. You guys do know we're a holes for
talking about Russell Wilson this morning. You guys saw that, right,
Sorry to you out there. They probably tuned to South
you know. Sorry kick Rocks. All right, we had to
hit you with some some reality here. Listen, we're busting
balls here. We can't have a few jokes, all right.
We did just I just want to trip Dilford to
(37:29):
come on. We took it. We took out a mountain
lion last week. We did it. Calls the can man.
Anybody can get it. Yea, that is true, you know
what I mean? That is true. But they just had to.
I don't know what that means. They just had the
vigil for that. That that line. Yeah, guys, Rihanna halftime show.
A number of songs in the halftime show nine and
(37:50):
a half. What I'm gonna take the under leave it alone,
just leave the jokes alone, leave it alone, do it
nine and a half. Well, I'm definitely taking the under.
BA cut that in half. So that sounds like a
(38:10):
lot of songs it does, right, what like thirty minute
half time? How long is it? Does she have that
kind of catalog? Does she have? They play covers too, right,
and there will be a special nut somewhere super Bowl.
What's your favorite Rihanna song? Do you guys have one?
Like yeah you needed me? Yeah me song called the
(38:31):
song called Hard, that's your best one? Telling you how
does it go? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't know. It's like that's how I don't remember the song.
I don't remember this song gets called hard Yeah yeah,
yeah the whole time. Okay, at the beginning of the song,
I'm done. That's what I'm mad. I'm done. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(38:54):
yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah that like that. Yeah,
it is. I'm telling you, I guess I'll take the
her because it just seems like a lot in that.
But they don't sing the whole song. That's the thing.
They don't sing the whole song. So she will go
through her catalog. I would assume guilt confession. That's that's
my bathroom break, Like halftime super Bowl. I mean, listen,
(39:18):
because it's Fox, I'll watch, but I mean other than that,
you know, really, that's what you just did? You know
you can leave the TV on Fox and walk away. Yeah,
but I think Fox deserves my attention because I love Fox. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaking of the Fox broadcast, number of times we hear
the Kelsey brothers are facing off against each other during
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the broadcast, there's an over under out there of only
one and a half. I'm taking it over. That's easy.
It's the Brother's Bowl. I think it'll be the usually.
I mean it is every year. Now, that's one thing
it is. It is the Brother's Bowl every single year.
That is a one. But we're talking about different brothers.
(40:01):
Let's take then. I think it gets mentioned, but they
won't try to blow it out of what do you
have a direct line to Greg Olsen? I think, yeah,
maybe it tell them to cool it on that. I'll
take the under as well too. Yeah, one in that
half I think they'll mention to once. They'll mention that.
You can't mention that one time. I mean, it's it's big.
(40:23):
It's tired at this point. I mean it's been going
on for well over a week. They're probably fed up
with it as well too. They're not going to have
to hear it. They're going to be playing we got
any Morley, that's fine for today? Men do it man, alright.
I can't believe you'll think they only mentioned them boys
one time. I just want to run again? Can you
(40:43):
run again? Can you do that for us? I'm spent
for the day. That has got to be the most
intriguing thing that I will probably I mean, you are
floating like you defy the laws of gravity when you're
like frolicking over there? Can I give you guys m
v P pick outside of the favorites that are Jalen
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Hurts and Passion. Where we got draft Kings? What do
we got Travis Kelsey plus twelve hundred that's not that
I like to check out the plus twelve to one
that pays out neither one. You don't like Kelsey at
twelve to one, no ss on this one, but we are,
(41:27):
by the way half yeah talking about Stick City. I'm
really gonna do this. No, hey Pagnan
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. You know the lead
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singer of this band is black? Really no clue? Yeah,
Elijah knows it. Yeah, I didn't. When I listen to music,
I never think about race and together. But we had
that in common, you know. I mean, I'm not the
lead singer of the show, but certainly I am the
only black man on the show. Though he's got the dreads,
(00:42):
he does have the dreads you can bring just because
of this this this this band here. How long did
you have them? For fourteen years? He had you dreads
for fourteen years? Damn they were below my my butt
when I cut them off. When I had my baby,
I cut him on. I had like a yeah, why
does Lee run like that? Twinkle Toe? Yeah, you run
(01:06):
like that? Last great get great cats. I was just
thinking that Twinkle literally could come out of the mountain
fast today. Heats out the balls of his feet. Oh,
they ain't gonna let you move around credential. Hey Lee,
go back, run the same exactly how your friend the
(01:26):
same attact, only I like it. Man, I should have
done that when I was younger, I would haved Calves.
Well let's see, let's see how he runs. But yeah,
let's do another one. Great form, balls of his feet.
Oh my gosh, Lee forgot his credential to go ahead
(01:48):
coffee and just ran back for this running style. It's great. Man.
Differently after that run like that, so look like a
ball ballerina. It was weird. It was almost like it
was frolicking. It's hard to describe. Yeah, it looks like
(02:11):
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yesterday we talked about the three finalists for the Arizona
car was head coaching job. One was Flores. Then you
had lou Ana Rumo from the Cincinnati Bengals and Mike Kafka.
So why did Brian Flores say, you know what, I'd
rather go be a d C for the Minnesota Vikings
and not partaking this in this search? Did he get
(03:17):
the indication you think that's impressive? Did you get the
impressive it? Did he get the invitation or inclination that
it wasn't gonna go that way? You got the invitation.
I've got a lot of questions, I mean for starters,
like where's the lawsuit at? Is that still heard anything
about it? Well? Because like I would think that if
(03:37):
you if you're up for a head coaching job, unless
they've given him notice, there's not getting it. But nothing
was nothing's come out publicly. He hasn't said anything. You
you think that the turtleneck, you'd think that he would
want to keep his name in it until Minnesota could
(03:59):
figre your things out, unless maybe Minnesota said, hey, this
DC job is not gonna be here for you. And
he really doesn't want to go back to Pittsburgh. He
wants to at least be a d C, if not
be a head coach. So he took what was there,
but it is it is just a bit odd that
if he really wanted to be a head coach again.
And by the way, he's the most qualified candidate of
those three, right, Cathkin and Rumbo have not ever been
(04:21):
a head coach before. Flores is a good win loss record.
You know. I don't know if they were hesitant about
how he handled things with TWA, and maybe they're concerned
about what that would be with Kyler. But I mean,
Heat to me was the guy that was most deserving
or should have been a guy to come in and
take over that job. Like if you want someone to
leave with a strong fist, he'd be that guy to
(04:43):
do it and try to at least get you know,
Kyler to you know, not have those outbursts like we
saw in the field and conduct himself the way he did.
It might be flores that that wants to avoid that Murray. Yeah,
I think so because if you you're in a situation
where you come up short as the hey coach for
a second time, and it's based off of a quarterback scenario.
(05:07):
By the way, come up short Kyler Murray like that?
Did you like that? It's so disrespectful? Unbelievably so it
was disrespectful. Are you saying that he was sitting on
the curb swinging his legs? That junk had me laughing
all day yesterday. But I ain't go laugh to you.
Do you know how many jokes he has about people?
(05:29):
But what's bad about it is is that I got
a mental digital of Kydler Murray's sitting on the curb
swinging his legs. But he does this as old short
people like me. Okay, you can't see any other short
person joke. What do you I mean? These aren't jokes.
I've heard that, you know when they used to play
hide and see Kyler Murray used to, you know, take
cover behind the shot glass again. I don't know, like
(05:53):
I'm not I'm just reporting on this. He's the things
that he's got his back pocket for what reason, I
don't know me If you would, if you could, you
have said one of the cupboards, If you would have
said one of the cupboards in the kitchen he was
(06:15):
at and one of those that that would have probably
been funny. But I just I think that Floras. I
think Floras puts himself in a position to rebuild what
he what he left or what he wants was by
being a defensive coordinator. I think you you he got
(06:35):
an opportunity to get back in with a position group.
Now you've becoming a defensive coordinator, you show that you
can have success with the defensive coordinatorship, then you kind
of give it a little bit more time to get
away from because it is still even though it's not
prevalently being spoken about the lawsuit, it's still kind of
probably freshen the owner's minds. So he's gonna like it's
(06:59):
a saying he's still getting the opportunity to be a
head coach. That that probably says how good he is
as a coach on paper. But I also think that
you have to take that into consideration that he would
be willing to sue you under circumstances of his his own,
(07:21):
his own interpretation, and there's a lot that can go
into that. Right, Like we said earlier about Sean Payton,
it's a restrictive private area. There are a lot of
things that take place at facilities that owners, GMS, coaches,
players are privy to and it can't leave that place.
(07:45):
Ask uh, you know about the emails and with John
Wilson all that, right, Like, sometimes the inner actions are
what they are, and I would I would wonder how
people are viewing if you're gonna if you're thinking about
hiring Brian or as, how are you viewing him? How
are you looking at that? Because ultimately I know for me,
(08:06):
i'd be sitting there like, hey, man, like we got
strictly business with this coach, Like I'm not. I'm not
having no no private conversations or no offline conversation. Nothing
is offline because this is what I know, this is
what happened when he was in Miami. This is what
I know. And I think that that changes the rules
(08:28):
of engagement because you and I know both know and
and and football circles, it's very family oriented, it's very
homey oriented. You know, crony oriented, whatever, you know, comrade oriented,
it's very much that. So if you don't have that
element to just be free and how you speak to somebody,
that's that's kind of you got to try to figure
(08:50):
out how to navigate that. Yeah, it's interesting because he's
kind of like a new age CEO, like all these
new age CEO is when I have complete transparency with
everything because they feel like everything is become public at
some point. And it's almost how you have to kind
of view hiring him. But you know, it's hard to
deny he's not a good coach. You know, they won
five games the first season. They won ten and nine
(09:11):
the next two seasons in Miami. Now you might have said, well,
he couldn't figure out the quarterback position with how they
handled things with two of whatever the case. Maybe maybe
that was one of the reasons he didn't want to,
you know, go to Arizona if you felt like, I
don't know if I can win with this guy, and
I was already stuck with a quarterback that I didn't
like before. I don't want to have to do that again.
(09:31):
So why not go to a defense that's got talent
in Minnesota that's got a you know, some veteran players,
some good players that I feel like I can turn
this thing around quick and be able to then have
my selection of more head coaching opportunities maybe the following
year and or a couple of years. So maybe that's
what he feels like, it's the better play for take
it over in Minnesota. Well, I don't know if he's
(09:52):
gonna do that. I mean O'Connell has done a really
good job, but you just you never know. I mean,
they had a good year this year. I mean, yeah,
the defense was brutal, defense was bet but he also
was looking at like it can't get any worse, right, Yeah,
any little improvement. I've got that on my resume. By
the way, if he's just middle of the pack defensively
and actually it's as significant upgrade over where they were
(10:15):
this past year. Um. But no matter who takes over
the job in Arizona, as we're live here from Arizona, No,
A J. Green calls it a career yesterday. So A J.
Green underrated career. I mean especially the first part of
his you know seven Yeah, one season he was under
a thousand yards receiving and it was because he missed
(10:36):
the final six games of the year. He tore his
hamstring and then they just put him on IR the
last game he actually had that season, he had the
most receiving yards per game even though he didn't get
a thousand, and in ten games he almost had a thousand,
So it was he had a great, crazy Hall of Famer.
I mean, that's what everyone always wants to ask right away.
So I think it's hard even though the way he
(10:58):
conducted himself, I mean he was for it a period
of time, like he was one of the best, most dominant.
If you go back, so Josh Gordon always got talked
about like top receiver, top receiver if you go back
to that. Well, but like when people talk about his
great season, you look at Josh Gore and that like
he kept getting chance after chance after chance. Now year
(11:21):
was it, Shannon was it? Wow? Interesting? But if you
go back to that year, he I would look at
it and go a j Green pretty similar numbers wise,
Yet his seasons never really got talked about in the
same way that other wide receivers did. Is because he
(11:43):
wasn't a diva. It's like Mike Evans. Mike Evans has
nine straight seasons of receiving over a thousand yards. That's
all he does. He walks in the NFL every year
a thousand yards receiving. And there's like, no, we were
never talked about it like that. It's weird, man. So
you've got to be a diva in order to get
some records. It could be partially the product that the
(12:03):
game is now, you know where people just feel like
it's easier to accumulate stats. Yeah, you almost has he
number one? Yeah? Than or is he number two? He
should have thousand narrows receiving? I mean you asked Trent Dilfory.
I mean he's not impressed by it. He's not well, look,
I mean maybe we get to that next thing. Yeah
he uh that was was it? Rogers and Brady doesn't?
Do we have the sound on that? Yeah? We had
(12:25):
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from Trent dal for here until we get to it.
That's a good point. It's a great point about those. Uh.
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That the the credit we're gonna give on this thirty
for thirty. So we're looking at here. That's what I
have on the alright, So he had he Trent dilfor
the Super Bowl winning quarterback back in the day. Now
the head coach is at U A B. Is that
he's the head coach there. Yes, Trent a brand new
head coach. He was at Lipscomb Academy UH in Nashville,
(15:53):
one of the top high school football programs in the country,
and he had this to say about a couple of
quarterbacks in the NFL. Modern day game does not impress me.
It's super easy when you don't get hit as a quarterback,
and when you can't reroute receivers and when you can't
hit guys across the middle. I love Tom Brady, I
love Baron Rodgers. I love these guys. It's not impressive.
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What's impressive is what they did. So how about it?
Who's your pointing too? And he said what they did?
I think he's pointing out Brady and Rodgers, isn't he No,
he's calling out with the games that today and some
I'm saying, there's other people there in the crowd. I
wasn't exactly sure who he's pointing to what they did.
(16:39):
I think the general consensus is he's discussing probably the
rules and how they're set up to protect quarterbacks now
versus what they were back then. I could rattle off
quarterbacks that would be better than him when he played.
Look a, probably starters in the league right now, and
(17:05):
if they were on the same team as Trent deal for,
he wouldn't be starting. You mean that even team didn't
win because of the quarterback. So what you're trying to say?
I would say this, though, Um what strikes me is
like I just I don't really understand, Like if you,
I guess you want to question the direction of the
league's going because of how they're protecting quarterbacks. Okay, that's
(17:26):
that's fair, that's fine. It's not like what it used
to be. But they also understand that when you lose
your starting quarterback, I mean even a guy who was
the third string starting quarterback in the NFC Championship game
when they lost them, they had nothing. And so that's
usually what happens to a season for most teams that
lose their starting quarterback. They're not able to overcome losing
(17:49):
a start and having a backup play well and then
a third string guy played well like the Fortys did.
That's a very rare circumstance. So the NFL is trying
to protect you know, the competitiveness of the game and
all the money they're making off all these TV networks
so that they can sell these games, right, But I
also feel like quarterback play is as good as it's
ever been. That's why so many young guys come into
(18:12):
the league and can do what they're doing. It's not
because they're not getting hit, because I would also argue
that guys are still there as fast as they've ever been,
they hit as hard as they've ever been. It might
be different, but they're still putting hits on quarterbacks, still
doing all of that. I don't not just I'm not
sure why some people, you know, take these these shots.
I want to down these hills. So I was looking
(18:34):
up because I was thinking of just and in the
Russell Wilson, but it ties back to the quarterback position
and the quality of play. So I was thinking, if
you look at the Russell Wilson scenario, big time trade
for a lot of picks goes over the first season
was a disaster. What's the comp to that? And the
only one I could come up with is Jay Cutler,
who got traded multiple first round picks, goes to the Bears.
(18:56):
And I thought, yeah, but his first season wasn't as
bad as Russell Wilson. Cutler through twenty six picks that year,
is that bad? Like, but to your point on the
quarterback position, we were talking this year when Derek Carr
had the lead and he had fourteen, like we're like,
it's say half of what what was considered there, Like,
(19:19):
I mean Davis Winston through thirty that wasn't that long ago.
So just in that short amount of time, you've seen
just if you just go by that category alone, they're
not like turning the ball over at rapid numbers and
that was the norm. Member Eli Manning led the league
in interceptions one year, and we're talking about him like
he's a Hall of Famer, like he's gonna go to
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the Hall of Fame. I think the protection they've provided
the receivers now being being in the act of catching
considering them defenseless, Now that's changed the game because as
a quarterback, I mean you, naturally, when you see a
guy running towards another defender, you're gonna throw the ball
behind him. It's just human nature. You don't want to
throw a pick. You want to have your guy get
(20:01):
hung out to dry, and so you will. Literally you're
gonna do it as many times as you want. You
will not find a quarterback who's gonna be able to
lead his guy into that defender. Now, if you ever
see it happened in the game, I guarantee the quarterback
didn't see the defender and that's why he was able
to lead him. But naturally he sees the guy, he's
gonna try to slow him down, put on his back, shoulder,
or back him. I just I feel like now with
the way they're protected, quarterbacks feel more in Bolden to
(20:25):
throw it up into tight windows and take chances because
they know those guys aren't getting hit the same way
they used to be hit. Where it was night night.
You know, those guys were hurt in a serious way
based on how defenders used to be able to play
the game. They can't play that way. Remember that Kurt
Warner and Kuwan Bolden play where he threw him. I
think he might am Kwan boldenminor broken his jaw, and
(20:45):
Kurt Warner was talking about he didn't know if he
wanted to play football anymore. He felt so bad about
leading him into the hit that he just say it
really bothered him. Was that a part of the documentary?
I don't know if that was or the movie. Yeah,
I'm I'm not sure if it was. Don't worry, Lee,
that's probably all one price for the Kurt Warner movie
when you go to AMC. There's not it's not teared
pricing for that movie if you want to go check
(21:06):
that out. You know, the interesting thing about what I
said I let off with I wasn't trying to be
insulting towards towards Trent Dilfer isn't he being insulting towards
Britty and Rogerson me, well, we'll think about this, like
everything you guys just said. Like, first of all, he's
thrown more interceptions. He threw more interceptions in his career
(21:28):
than he did touchdowns. He did do that. Um. He
also don't say that, father, stop doing. He was also
signed to that Ravens team as a backup. He was
brought in to be it. Now, he was six overall pick.
It was a Bowler he took over. It was a
Buller after him. Buller was after I don't I don't
(21:49):
recall the quarterback, but I do recall he was brought
in to be a backup. Now here's what's interesting. They
went the Super Bowl. He gets released and they've got
Elvis Gerba. He gets released after winning a super Bowl
and and basically was a backup the rest of the
way of of his career. So to me, my, my
(22:10):
whole thing is, if you're going to throw throw observations
as strong as that you're not impressed by today's quarterback,
I would say, because you played the game and you
had the opportunity in a moment to to win a
(22:33):
Super Bowl as a starting quarterback, like I would be
more positive about my my assessments even if I felt
in my heart what he said, I just I it.
I feel like why do that? Because when you do that,
when you shine that light on what you feel is
(22:53):
not good and how you're not impressed and this and that,
then everybody's going to be like, Okay. It's easy to
say a report order like, oh, you're a reporter, you
never played, like you don't know anything, and it's kind
of like you brush it off. But this guy did play,
and he is a super Bowl chat So people are
going to start dissecting you. They're going to start looking
(23:14):
at your body of work. I already saw some guy
tagged a clip or dil for air bail. There's a
wide open um go route on the sideline and he
just threw it out a bounce and like that. That's
the response you're gonna get from a lot of people,
right like, and it's not going to be unwarranted. The
problem here about somebody having that in their back pocket.
(23:37):
It was a clip from like twenties some years ago.
And listen, he might be a fine coach. I don't
think this has anything to do with him. He's a
he's a good guy too. And that's why I don't
really understand it, because what you really could do and
what you could say, and I think, like I fall
victim to this. Sometimes things don't come out the way
I want to portray them always, or I don't communicate
(23:57):
it the proper way. But what you what you could
say is, you know, look, the game was harder to play.
It was harder to play quarterback back then like that.
That's all you need to say is it was hard
because it's more physical and he would be right well,
and by the way he would be, you could reach out.
Nobody would have a problem with You could reach out
to Tom Brady and go, hey, Tom, you were winning
super Bowls during this era, would you agree, like you
(24:19):
were getting hit worse than you know you were. You know,
in an era where we had dropped back a little bit,
We weren't shotgun a ton. It was a lot of
you know, play action, you know, other things off of it.
It wasn't like the game is now where one and
a half. At one point you got two steps, then
it went down to one and a half. But it
(24:40):
was always no, no less than one and a half.
Like you could get if you got one and a
half as the balls released, like like, let's like think
about this ball's release one two hit right now, So
you don't you don't even get that type of space
(25:03):
the I mean, you touch them the wrong way, it's
a flag. So to me, I mean, we were slamming quarterbacks,
we were taking them down to the ground. Him, You
can him however you wanted to hit him. And and
so I would say if if he was just pointing
out the obvious that it was more brutal, there was
more brutality towards quarterbacks in his era, that's fine. But
(25:26):
to say I'm I'm not impressed, that's like, come on man, now,
now you're basically saying like, well, you know, the whole
argument if if Michael Jordan played in today's NBA, he
would be averaging such and such and such like because
you can't touch them like s Michael Jordan's s Michael Jordan's,
well you get you don't have an argument against that.
(25:47):
I just don't know how you can't be impressed considering
how how it's Trent Offer. I mean, Tom Brady's turning. Okay,
so mate, they're like four or five years apart and
how long have you been out of the game. Well,
and that I just look at it and go, what's
not impressive about that? The fact that the guy has
(26:09):
been able to play at such a high level for
so long, I mean even this past year. Say whatever
you want about it, he's still hit. I mean the
marks for being a guy that you look at, you say,
he's one of the top quarterbacks in the league without
much you know, running running help with when watch balance
in their offense, without you know, great protection all the time.
(26:30):
I just led attempt his final two years in the
NFL at forty and his body of work is just
not good enough for him to lob out a a
criticism like that. Even if it was like I mean,
even if he was I'm not even sure, Like even
it was Joe Montana saying it, I just look at
it and go, okay, But like, why do you have
(26:52):
to phrase it like that? Like, but it's Joe Montana
And you could be like, you know what, like he's flexing,
that's a flex Like it might not even be true,
but it's Joe Montana, Like Joe Montana said, if you're
like Joe Montana, if Joe Montana was in this era,
Joe Montana would be throwing touchdowns or doing this Like, okay,
that's a discussion point. It's a discussion, but it's like
(27:15):
if you haven't achieved to that level, people are going
to to Now, even with Joe Montana, people are going
to be like, well, what did Joe Montana do? You're
gonna look at what Joe maa, Oh, that's what Joe
Montana did because you brought that, you brought that attention
your way back with that criticism. That's all I'm saying.
Whether it's true or not. Yeah, whether it's true or not,
(27:35):
I get that. But we get pundits in the media
who say stuff all the time and then and then
they haven't played. So it's it is what it is.
And you're going to get around my points. Just look,
you can just say it in a different way where
you don't have to look like you're being caddy. You're
taking a shot of guys. I mean Tom Brady's yeah,
you know what I mean, Tombody's doing something will never
see anyone do again. And and to sit there and
(27:59):
say like, I don't know how that's not impressive. I
really don't. And I think you know, even though the
games were spread out and maybe it's easier to throw
the football at times, I still do think there's an
elements of the game that have gotten more difficult. You
know that with the speed of the defensive players, all
the different looks, different things they can do, there are
some more difficulties that the game has gotten for a
(28:20):
quarterback than what it used to be. And the skill
level for quarterbacks is significantly, the skill level of everyone
is significantly. I was just gonna so I remember talking
to T. J. Houshman Zada, who, by the way, you
can hear with LaVar and up on game right before
the jail and the Jon is not shoe big time,
and he was saying that it starts so young that
(28:45):
you go to some of these camps and these high
schoolers or kids getting into high school that are playing
receiver are just on another level. And it just you've
seen it over the past couple of years, how many
wide receivers go in the draft every single year, second
third after specialized. It's so much specialized training like it
(29:08):
just it was never like this. It was never like
this to this capacity of specialized training. And that's a
difference that that's the difference. If you're doing skill development
from seven eight years old and you're doing that all
the way up until you're in college, like you are
(29:28):
going to have refined movements. You're going to have I
don't know about the understanding of it all. I'm not
not really sure about that. But in terms of just
purely you're gonna run this route, here's the route, and
knowing how to get off of a press or knowing
how to run a route or get to the top
of the route or change the route, double moves, all
(29:49):
those different things. You have a ton of skill to
go with what it is that you're doing these days,
much different than any other era of time. Playing Trent
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the Kansas City Chiefs activated running back Clyde Edwards Laire
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placed wide receiver McCole Hardman on injured reserve with a
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(30:51):
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announcing his retirement. He had played for the Bengals and
the Cardinals. Some coaching news in the NFL, the Vikings
or iiring Steelers assistant and former Dolphin's head coach Brian
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eight and sixteen on the season. Clay Thompson goes for
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Warriors over one over the thunder fourteen Bucks knockoff the
Trailblazers one seven, one oh eight. That's eight straight wins
for Milwaukee. The Nets lose to the Clippers one sixteen
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to lap. What do we got As far as today's
edition of over Hey, Fellas, I made it back. I
made it back, and the toes are rough pebin stuff
(35:11):
like fellas. I have to ask over under his number
of proposals by a player on the field after the
game at a half under. Hold on, I think about
the rosters and the teams. Right, you got Philly East Coast,
the guys probably most of either settled down and they're single,
and they're not trying to settle down. Casey Midwest a
(35:34):
little more wholesome. There's gonna be someone on that roster
might be proposing I'm gonna take the over all right,
I mean, because Casey's more wholesome. You think that that's
the I'm just saying that, I think there could be
a player, you know, Midwest City all that, you know,
over under and a half romantic, I'm still going with under. Yeah,
I'm gonna take the under. Alright, fellas over under yards
(35:59):
for a j. Brown through the Air seventy two and
a half, I'm gonna say the over Dudley Brown Super Bowl.
I'm gonna take the over. Yeah, I definitely gonna take
the under on that. Lee guys, Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts.
(36:22):
There's an over under for the longest completion thirty seven
a half. Pretty standard. Who has the longest completion in
the game? Is it Patrick Mahomes or Jalen Hurts. That's
a tough I'm going with m hm m m. I'm
gonna say mahomies, I'm gonna go with hurts. I mean,
I at least know the for the football more that. Yeah,
(36:45):
But I think there's other guys that to make it
a bigger play little play action, little play action, little stretch,
a little a little run action. Yeah, that's the new one,
the run action. Yeah. So you get guys like LaVar
to suck up the it's running. You have to though.
They got for Russell Wilson calling it out though or
else you wouldn't know, you know, because that I'll take
(37:09):
out jail. You guys do know we're a holes for
talking about Russell Wilson this morning. You guys saw that, right,
Sorry to you out there. They probably tuned to South
you know. Sorry kick Rocks. All right, we had to
hit you with some some reality here. Listen, we're busting
balls here. We can't have a few jokes, all right.
We did just I just want to trip Dilford to
(37:29):
come on. We took it. We took out a mountain
lion last week. We did it. Calls the can man.
Anybody can get it. Yea, that is true, you know
what I mean? That is true. But they just had to.
I don't know what that means. They just had the
vigil for that. That that line. Yeah, guys, Rihanna halftime show.
A number of songs in the halftime show nine and
(37:50):
a half. What I'm gonna take the under leave it alone,
just leave the jokes alone, leave it alone, do it
nine and a half. Well, I'm definitely taking the under.
BA cut that in half. So that sounds like a
(38:10):
lot of songs it does, right, what like thirty minute
half time? How long is it? Does she have that
kind of catalog? Does she have? They play covers too, right,
and there will be a special nut somewhere super Bowl.
What's your favorite Rihanna song? Do you guys have one?
Like yeah you needed me? Yeah me song called the
(38:31):
song called Hard, that's your best one? Telling you how
does it go? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
don't know. It's like that's how I don't remember the song.
I don't remember this song gets called hard Yeah yeah,
yeah the whole time. Okay, at the beginning of the song,
I'm done. That's what I'm mad. I'm done. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(38:54):
yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah that like that. Yeah,
it is. I'm telling you, I guess I'll take the
her because it just seems like a lot in that.
But they don't sing the whole song. That's the thing.
They don't sing the whole song. So she will go
through her catalog. I would assume guilt confession. That's that's
my bathroom break, Like halftime super Bowl. I mean, listen,
(39:18):
because it's Fox, I'll watch, but I mean other than that,
you know, really, that's what you just did? You know
you can leave the TV on Fox and walk away. Yeah,
but I think Fox deserves my attention because I love Fox. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaking of the Fox broadcast, number of times we hear
the Kelsey brothers are facing off against each other during
(39:38):
the broadcast, there's an over under out there of only
one and a half. I'm taking it over. That's easy.
It's the Brother's Bowl. I think it'll be the usually.
I mean it is every year. Now, that's one thing
it is. It is the Brother's Bowl every single year.
That is a one. But we're talking about different brothers.
(40:01):
Let's take then. I think it gets mentioned, but they
won't try to blow it out of what do you
have a direct line to Greg Olsen? I think, yeah,
maybe it tell them to cool it on that. I'll
take the under as well too. Yeah, one in that
half I think they'll mention to once. They'll mention that.
You can't mention that one time. I mean, it's it's big.
(40:23):
It's tired at this point. I mean it's been going
on for well over a week. They're probably fed up
with it as well too. They're not going to have
to hear it. They're going to be playing we got
any Morley, that's fine for today? Men do it man, alright.
I can't believe you'll think they only mentioned them boys
one time. I just want to run again? Can you
(40:43):
run again? Can you do that for us? I'm spent
for the day. That has got to be the most
intriguing thing that I will probably I mean, you are
floating like you defy the laws of gravity when you're
like frolicking over there? Can I give you guys m
v P pick outside of the favorites that are Jalen
(41:05):
Hurts and Passion. Where we got draft Kings? What do
we got Travis Kelsey plus twelve hundred that's not that
I like to check out the plus twelve to one
that pays out neither one. You don't like Kelsey at
twelve to one, no ss on this one, but we are,
(41:27):
by the way half yeah talking about Stick City. I'm
really gonna do this. No, hey Pagnan
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