February 24, 2025 • 48 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys debate whether or not Matthew Stafford wants to leave the Rams for more money. Sheduer Sanders opts out of workouts at the Combine and Plus the NFL Season Recap spirals into madness.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox. On radio, they.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Got Malcolm X on today.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Huh that is we back back, We all the way back,
baby taking them.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
No sports on up in here, No, no, would there
be the golf channels on though, there is that so.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
For anybody interested. Yeah, there's always golf somewhere, buddy, Yeah, always.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I mean, you know, not where I grew up, But
that's a whole other story.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Where you grew up used to dodge golf falls as
a kid, I say that was your biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
That's just getting one reckless accusations, definitely not just totally reckless.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But most kids heard Popo and they'd like kind of
start running all that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You're at four, yeah, and uh yeah, listen, the mean
streets of a thousand oaks, California will not stand for that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Most most kids were scared of a left hook. You
were scared of a duck hook. Yeah, messed up, man.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But how are we feeling here to a Monday morning?
How's everybody feeling good?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Everybody's rocking and rolling me.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
No need to try to like go shop around to
other teams things like that, you know, no, yeah for
us with this day, Yeah, someone in ta Is.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I mean, I guess we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Apparently Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
And his representatives are going to find out because, according
to Tom Pelasero and Ian Rappaford of the NFL Network,
the Rams have given him permission to not really seek
a trade, but to gauge the market value for what
potentially he could get if another team was willing to
annie up or pay up for his services this upcoming year.
(02:04):
So that is the very latest on the sort of
awkward and weird dynamic that is going on between Matthew
Stafford and the Rams.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Does it have to be a first round pick to
get this done? Does it have to be?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Probably for the Rams, Yeah, although they haven't. I mean,
look again, they've traded them before in the past when
they've had them for other veteran players. But I think
that's probably the value they attribute to what they believe
to be a starting franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
The only thing I'd say which is interesting about this
entire situation is I don't believe matt Stafford has a
no trade clause in his contract, so they had to
have gone to let's Sneed and Sean mcpay and said,
this is what we'd want and if you guys aren't
going to provide it, like, let us go see what
else is out there. But the Rams didn't need to
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do that necessarily. They're just trying to be helpful and
you know, basically help, you know, create some sort of
trade value if they can if they're going to lose them.
But I guarantee you they've got to plan be in
the back of their mind. And I do wonder if
it happens to be Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm just curious if if you're going to demand the
first round draft pick. I just think the question has
been tossed around what team would do it, And I
think the consensus that that I got from even talking
to the guys on the weekend is that there's no team,
there's no GM that is going to give up a
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first round draft pick for a thirty seven year old quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think Pittsburgh mate, if if you were.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
To give up a first rounder for for for a
quarterback that late in his in his career, you are
basically saying it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Is all in.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It's all or nothing, right, now because we are about
to what number would that be?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
What number to do the Steelers at.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's not going to be it's not going to I
was about to say it's not going to be a
top top ten pick. I wouldn't assume, like, for instance,
the teams that are interested. I mean, that's not bad.
That's not bad. I don't I mean, that's the first round.
I mean, does twenty one get it done? Q? I
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give you twenty one pick, twenty first pick, you take
Sam Darnold. Does that get it done?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I mean I think the question is can they create
a market because you know, is there multiple teams that
will be interested in matt Matthew Stafford to the point
where it's not just a first round pick then it
becomes a first and what because I do think it'll
be more than just a first round pick. And I know,
I know it sounds like a lot for a guy
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at his age, but Matthew Staffords still playing some good football,
and if you get two more years out of it's
probably worth it. If you are one of those teams
that feels like you're in a window and one of
your last pieces is the quarterback spot, I mean, that's
just how I feel, not whether or not it happens.
(05:15):
I don't know, because when I look at the scenario altogether,
I don't understand why Stafford would want to look elsewhere.
And look, the Rams are never wanted to play hardball.
I think they're actually really fair in how they negotiate
and talk about these things with players. But I still
am like, dude, like what else is a better situation
for a team that took the Super Bowl champs kind
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of to the wire a little bit, and they're a
young team and there's just there's stuff to build around.
I know they're not going to have Cooper Cup, but
don't you trust less sneed to find you another wide
receiver to bring in. So maybe it's just a negotiating
tactic between Stafford and his agent in trying to find
out teams that are willing to give them that contract,
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and then it comes down to whether or not the
Rams are willing to trade based on the compensation. And
if that's all this is, like, Okay, you know, you
get one more bite at the apple if you're Matthew Stafford.
But I still don't know if it's the best thing
for his career from a playing standpoint, like, I know
he's got a Super Bowl and maybe want to say,
all right, make as much as you can for the
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last couple of years you're playing. But there's gotta be
something in the back of his mind saying this is
a good team, like this is a team that can
maybe make it to an NFC championship game, and you
never know who wins in that scenario. So it is
a bit surprising that he would want to be elsewhere
at this juncture of his career.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Do the Colts make sense what they do it? I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean, you're basically saying, Anthony Richardson's not it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yes, Okay, that's what you're saying. I mean, that's what
they're saying.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I just on the stafford wanting to leave front. That's
the part that makes no sense to me, Like I
just and we talked about it a little bit lastlast week.
Other than to get the cash, get more cash, okay,
but don't like don't you have enough? Like you got
It's not like the Rams are offering him like twenty
twenty bucks from Yeah, it's it's what do you think
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the Rams are offering him twenty bucks in a bag
of roll Golds like he's he's getting paid. It's not
like they're they're low balling him to the point where,
oh my god, they're offering me five million a year,
Like he's gonna he's going to get a fair deal
from the Rams.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I just if he's talking, are based off of all
three of us? And if it's based off of all
three of us, do you bring our value down because
of what you're willing to take. That's what you just
made me think.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Just now, he is getting paid twenty three million in
base salary this year.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
He wants to jump up the forty. Well, I'm sure
he wants to go to fifty. I mean, look at
it this way.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
If brock Purty's going to make fifty, do you think
he wants to make less than brock Purty no, a
quarterback in his own division. No, of course, not as
much as you want to say, Oh, he's got a
lot of money, of course, dude. But do you think
rich people are like, hey, I'm good, I don't want
to make any more money.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, you're being kinds sated off of what you bring
to the table too. It's not like I've been great
so I can continue to be at this high level
under a different contract and keep it the same, Like
I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
If you're saying human, yeah, it's human. Make sure once
you have a lot and you want more, it's just
you know, anyone who lets you're just refute that stupid yeah,
because again, once you make more, you want more.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And that's where he's at.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
So he doesn't want to have to play for a
twenty three million dollar you know, base salary on that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So, so fifty million with the Giants are forty million
with the Rams, all.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Right, I mean we don't know how much they're off. Rahm.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Here are the teams that are being put out there,
the Colts, the Raiders, the Giants, the Jets, the Titans,
and the Steelers. I think, personally, the only team that
would make sense. Well, I think too, I think two teams. Well, yeah,
(09:12):
I think two teams could make sense, and that would
be the Giants and that would be the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well, I think does make sense. Who you got? Titans? Yeah,
I'm out there. I do feel like that Titans.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Well, if I feel like Brian Callahan might have a
lot of pressure on him to win, and if he does,
that's a scenario where you might say, let's bring in
a veteran, let's try to win some football games, because
that's a winnable Division two. You know, Houston's now at
the top, but still the way they play this year,
it makes you think that you could get competitive in
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that rather quickly. And if that's the case, you go
to a no stdium tax a state where he likes money.
You know, Stafford's from the South. I gets them closer
back to home. Everyone loves Nashville. There's a lot of
boxes it checks. And if it's at the end of
your career and you can try to, you know, bring
about a team that makes it to the playoffs or.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Win the division.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
So you get a lot of appreciation for a team
that right now, I feel like there's a lot of
heat on Brian Callahan.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's a good old ball ever men in the in
the drow and the lulls and the day I was born.
Matthew Stafford seems like one of them tight cats. He
does sure, Georgia guy, I can see that. I mean,
(10:35):
that's a compelling discussion point.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
That you're basically saying, yeah, I forget about super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know, it's just gonna well, I don't think you're
going to win a Super Bowl in Tennessee. And the
upcoming year or two.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
The only team that gets him anywhere close to where
he would be with the Rams if your return via
the Steelers, that's it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There's the possibility playoffs, and there's the possibility that could
exists with New York with the Giants because their defense
is not bad. I'm telling you, there is a pretty
good defense, and if you create some more offense, then
they could become a competitive team in the East. They could,
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and they could come out of nowhere seemingly, but they're not.
They're not that far away from being a pretty good
team that maybe one or two pieces, you add another
receiver to that, that receiving corps, and you shore up
what you got going on up front. You could possibly
do that in free agency and through the draft. They're
(11:38):
not you, Adam Matthew Stafford. You might not be as
far away from from being good as as people may
assume they are in New York.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's my assessment of it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
And the only thing that I would say about the Jets,
because personnel wise, Stafford could go in there and they
could light up the world. With that that you know
that group they have and they are really good on
defense as well. I just don't think that you can
outperform this function. And I feel like that would be
you're taking another shot at it, another stab at it
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with Aaron Glenn as the head coach, and I just
don't know it. I would have to see where they're
at in terms of how they're handling things. Is there
a cultural shift that's going to take place. I mean,
it happened in DC, and you saw how quickly things
can turn if you get a good quarterback in position,
and you got a good play caller, and you got
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a healthy environment for the players to be in. I mean,
things can change pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I would be surprised if they don't figure out a
way to get it done with the Rams. I just
I can't imagine that. I'm surprised he got to this point.
I didn't expect for it to take this turn, But
I just can't imagine the Rams and hit them both
wouldn't look at this and go, we're just better off
doing this together there, like it's better off that we
continue on than to go on.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Think anybody's going to offer a first round I mean
maybe twenty first pick that makes sense maybe, but I
didn't think anybody's going to go down.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
There'll be some teams to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I again, I think it depends on what else besides
the first round pick. I do want to just throw
this out there for conversation's sake. In eleven games that
Russell Wilson started, he threw sixteen touchdown passes. His rating
was very similar. I think it was like a ninety
five point six. His QBR was like a fifty one
point three. But Stafford's rating was actually lower in ninety
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three his QBR that was higher if you depend on
how you want to look at those. But he only
threw twenty touchdown passes over sixteen games, and he did
throw for more yards about ten more yards per game
than Russell Wilson. But I just when you talk about
Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean, I keep going back against Pete
every time he talks about it. Russell Wilson gave that
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offensive lift there in the passing game. Now, I know
it didn't finish the way they wanted to, but there's
a lot of different factors for that, and it's almost
like they might be a little better suited with Russell
Wilson or Justin Fields. I almost just don't see that
scenario playing out because I'm not sure it's the right
fit for Pittsburgh. I mean, Arthur Smith typically likes having
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a quarterback who can run a little bit too, and
you know, at Stafford this point in time in his career,
I think would like to be more in a pocket
passing offense. That might make some more sense. And by
the way, Las Vegas has a ton of money too.
You know, that's a team that, yes, is devoid of
some weapons, and if you're looking to have success, that
that may not be the team that you're looking for.
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But if it's all about the contract and what you
could get offered, that's a team you keep an eye on.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
M I mean, they don't talk too of r about Russ.
All right, we are we've been moving on from Russell Wilson.
And I didn't say they were moving on from Russell Wilson.
They said they were moving on.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
From They say they were both set to become free
agentcy LeVar didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Leavar didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, we will keep you posted if we have any
breaking news on Matthew Stafford and his pursuit for a
half bill.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He did better than I thought, he fitted more than
I thought he would. That's a p A guy. He's
not a PA guy through and through.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
He's got Pittsburgh written all over him.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
That's why he's got a sandwich at Primann's. I heard
you of a Pittsburgh tattoo?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Did he? Yeah? So I heard it.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Ain't not wrong with that. I mean, you know, go
for him, I mean he played for him. They had
a year together. Yeah, clearly they loved each other. It's
like four and two for life or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Okay, where he grow up? Word, let's street he from.
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Speaker 4 (16:09):
App Apparently this is the news that has made the
rounds here, big news that apparently Shador Sanders is not
going to be working out at the scouting Combine in
Indianapolis this week. All right, so he is not going
to be working out, So I'm assuming is this just
he'll get the medicals and all that, but he's not
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going to do any of this throwing. And the expectation
is what he does. It is pro day and Boulder.
That's the that's the plan there for shadoor standers.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So this is not I mean the fact that new
not a big deal, I mean whatever.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Honestly, the only reason why the NFL or the NFL
network will make it a big deal is and this
has like changed dramatically in the past probably ten years
or so, is most agents know this, most coaches, I
mean there's not even head coaches that go to this
in some cases. I mean think about that. There are
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some teams who don't send everyone to the combine anymore.
So if that's the case, why should you feel like
it's necessary for you to go throw or do some
of those things in an environment that's not really conducive
to you showcasing the best of your ability. So if
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that's the case, go throw your protein. Throw all the
private workouts for each individual team. And we've had players
in the past talk about that like, yeah, I'm not
gonna do this, but I'll throw for whoever you know
wants me to throw it. You know, wants me to
work out for them, because that's actually a serious team
that's going to draft them, right, and all you're doing
by going to the combine now and throwing for them.
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And there's some you know, talent evaluators and coaches who
will try to take issue with this, but they're full
of crap. Is you're basically doing it for TV. You're
doing it for the NFL because there's two things that
everyone wants to see. It's the forty yard dash and
it's the court backs throwing. Those are the two things.
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So all you're doing is supplying them content. That's That's
the truth of it all. And you know, I'm sure
Shador will have a very open pro day to the
media and everyone else out there that wants to watch
him and the rest of his receivers who are getting
drafted work out. So it's not a big deal. We
get to this time of the year, people try to
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make it a big deal. It's unfortunate that that's the
case because you'll get some guys you're like, y'all want
them to go out there and compete. What are you
competing at, dude? They throw like two or three passes.
You're rotating out sitting there for five minutes throwing the
dude sometimes you've never even thrown to before. What's the competition?
Where's the scoreboard?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Now?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I want to go out there and compete. Okay, we're
out there a compete. Yeah, I'm gonna go compete. That's
a big hog's leg in there. But that's the truth.
And again people will take issue with that. But this
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is a business now for a lot of these guys,
and there's some who view it and said, yeah, I'll
go throw it because I need to do everything I
possibly can to improve my draft stock. Should Sanders just
viewed as one of those, you know guys who will
probably go in the.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
First round him and cam Ward? Oh oh okay, idea,
what that was?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
That was.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
A dip? You don't love about Lee?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
By the way, in our rundowns is Lee will go
back and put things in segments after we've already.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Done them, like like, I don't know why it was
like the one time I've ever done it. Well, Wiley,
we're past that segment. It doesn't matter anymore. Like watch.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Oh no, I love the soft the soft keypad that
Brady has.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
People used to get shamed for not working out at
the combine.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They would shame you. Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And they would make you feel it like when you
were walking and everybody else was about to work out, shame, shame, shame,
everybody about getting warmped up and about to go, and
you're standing there shame.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
That's the only that's the only reason I did the
bench press. I mean I tore my pcl so and
that was the other thing. It's like the timeline was
tighter from your bowl game to when you actually had
a test to the combine. I mean, now everything's been
kind of moved back, you know, a bit with the
way the season works for some of these guys. I
mean some of these guys are playing through mid January,
so it's a little more difficult too. I Mean there's
a bunch of reasons why you wouldn't do it nowadays,
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aside from what I just said was shoulder. Like, if
you're running a forty yard dash and you know this LeVar,
you become a track athlete, like you basically train like
a track athlete to get out the blocks you're basically
your start correct and learn how to run a forty
yard dash because it's the one time in your life
you're gonna be asked to do so, and it's gonna
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be the most important forty yard dash you ever run,
your first and last. Most likely. Yeah, fair, very fair.
And if you're playing through mid January and we've got
the combine starting up with the twenty eighth, you basically
have a month to recover and do that. It's a
really hard time to be able to get your body
recovered and where you need it to be to test
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to your optimal levels. Like for your vertical you're broad jumped,
you're at five ten five. The techniques that go along
with it, people don't understand. There are techniques and how
you run the L drill and how you do the
five ten five that you are taught and you work on,
and that it comes down to it a certain amount
of steps, the way you plant, the way you do it.
But even for the drills, like even for a lot
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of the drills, if you're a dB or safety for example,
and you're back pedaling, they want to see you how
you switch your hips and turn them running the other way.
There's techniques to that that you might say, well, you
aren't all these guys already aware of that, not to
the to the degree or the specifical, like the specific
way in which you do it as an NFL athlete
that you're gonna be taught how to do it during
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the shrills. So there's there's a lot of learning that
goes on amongst the fact that you're trying to get
your body to be recovered and then back up to
as explosive and as powerful as you can make it
in that amount of time. So there's there's other reasons
why you wouldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, I've always felt like combine and pro days is
is just an opportunity for coaches to continue to stay
away from home. If you if you're asking me the truth,
I mean because in reality, in reality, if you're really
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thinking about what a pro day should represent, it's like
a workshop or or like a uh what is it
like when you bring people to places to find jobs
like club? Not not I mean not too but like work,
a career fair, A career fair? All right, you're identifying
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young talent that you're not aware of. What do you
need to Like if a kid is going to grade out,
they've already graded out as a top round pick, like
a first rounder. I don't see the purpose in you
bringing them there and having them do anything at all
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other than interview with you, interview show you what they
understand in terms of the x's and o's. To me,
if you were really going for real impact of a
job interview in these scenarios, ask them about what they're
doing in the communities you know that they're serving, if anything,
well as learn about them as people and how they
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can contribute to your community from that perspective, because I
think when you're talking about combines and pro days, I
think it's really more so about getting to know these
guys that you've already seen put because you've already put
your film.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's already there. If you put it there, it's there.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So it's not like you're going to you've heard like
the Mike Mamulas of the world, and somebody goes into
the combine and they trick you through the combine that
they should be a higher prospect than what they are
what they were coming out of you know, playing on
the field, that doesn't happen very often anymore at all. Really,
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you're not sneaking up on somebody as a prospect that's
played at Alabama or has played at you know, Georgia
or Notre Dame. You're not sneaking up on anybody as
a prospect. So to me, it's just really the opportunity
for these guys to continue to be on the road.
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Go get go, get meals that are on the organizations,
Go get drunk on the dime of the organization.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And not have to be at home.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I mean, that's you know, I mean, I just honestly,
because you don't have to reckless stave if you don't
really you know these people you get invited. You got
to be the most elite players in the league. Even
if you're obscure, you're still pretty elite to get invited
to the combine. So why are you inviting the elites
you know exactly who they are. You should be inviting
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next tier guys that I really don't know that much
about and watch them run. Oh, you didn't play much,
but you're a senior and you're coming out. We heard
you're good. But this guy in front of you that
we did invite to the combine, that we watch run
for two thousand yards in the season, we want to
watch him work out. Does that make sense? It doesn't
really make it. If you really step back and think
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about it. You're looking at guys who have already proven
to you they can play at the next level. That's
the bottom line. So go and look at guys that
you don't get to see. Go look at guys that
this guy is six foot eight, why is he not playing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Let's see what he has. Let's see if he can run.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Because there's a guy that's out there that's not running
a fast forty, But I guarantee you he'll run every
every dude down out there that runs a four three
four four forty. He'll run every last one of them down,
every last one of them.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Right, you're basically saying you don't want teams to be
sleeping on guys, which, by the way, just see you
guys know sleep is essential.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
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good dude, Yeah, really good dude. Shouts out to John.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
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Speaker 2 (27:03):
Sports train laughing, Bro, Why were you laughing? Cue? What
were you all laughing about? Did you see what Jonas
was doing while you were reading? What do you mean?
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I saw it was? It was just a reply something.
It's a it's an old joke with Bobo.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Oh Bobo, Hi Bobo, Hi Bobo, Hi Aaron? Aaron? All right,
oh god? What oh okay?
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Exactly exactly that Bobo you already know. Don't worry, bro,
I do the homework. I mean I asked questions like
who who is listening to us?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
As we've talked about it before, truck.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Drivers give us a lot of love. Man, They be
checking us out. They'd be listening. Shouts out to you.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
You know where they get their little red Stockport radio. Yeah, bobo,
who was listening to the show? And uh, let's just
put it this way. As we've pointed out before, he
was really conflicted during the pack.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
May Weather fight. Someone say is fight himself?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You ever punch your own self in the mouthing.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Jim Carrey for what was a liar raw kicking my
own ass.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 2 (28:31):
Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
When you put together the season review, were you drunk? Tang?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I am seeing some discrepancies that right now as I'm
looking through.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I don't know about discrepancies. It's just hard to follow.
Are you one eye on this thing, one on the ground?
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Whould you have one in the NFC the Celtics, Tang,
I do see a problem in the a f C West,
So there.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Were So are we cleaning this up right now here
while we're we're on the air, I mean, are we
doing this? Or what we got? NFL theme music? Let's uh,
let's bang this out here. I feel great about how
my season went.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I don't know about you, guys. I'll say this. I
had a decent amount of teams that I thought would
make the playoffs. Make it. Now, it wasn't always in
the right order, but it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I mean, at least y'all don't have blanks on y'alls.
I clearly took part of this, this whole pick, this
whole deal.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Yeah, but you.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Weren't as elaborate as Jonas and I. You did skip
a few categories. No, I skipped a few categories. Kind
of What happened to the AFC South, I don't I
don't get it. What did I skip for only pick two?
I only picked two teams at a FC South? Yeah? Okay,
what do you guys?
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I think I think you had a toss up between
the other two. I think you had a toss up.
I had a Jacksonville and Houston. You said one of
them is gonna get first, one of them is gonna
get second.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Oh god, all right, I'm not I'm not blaming anyone,
but I'm not blamingly either in this instance.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
All right, okay, I'll take that. I don't even care
like I could care less. Well, all right, well, it's
just hard to follow.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How are you construct?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Are you looking at the market's attachment le Barget's an
incomplete is what we're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Ridiculous. This is not possible looking at the Google doc.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
The Google doc, I didn't even put that there. Somebody
else put that there. You went say, uh, are you
you filled out?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The less? Who else would put this there?
Speaker 7 (30:35):
I was filling I was out one day and somebody
filled in and like copying and.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Pasted free or coop bree. Why would they update?
Speaker 7 (30:42):
So someone was so professional put it there somewhere and
took it off because someone.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Was so professional that they did your job for you
when you were gone, and now you're going to throw
them under the bus.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
I had put it there, and I knew you would
have this complaint because it's so hard to put on
the Google Chat. I always given you, guys the attachments
in separate emails, which has a lot better for me.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
I never got an attachment for this either, So I
have no idea what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
All right, it's in your email. It's what do email.
I send email. I've sent it to you several times.
I just sent it in the break to you.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
All I know is this is some BS. I'm looking
I'm going down a wow car. It doesn't matter. It's BS.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Second, hold on some bs. Hold on? How did LeVar
win He didn't have one team in the Super Bowl?
He Kansas City and had Kansas City in there. Okay,
let me break it down.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Since I'm the one who's reading this, uh this document
here that I put Kansas City beat in Detroit, I'm
the only one who could decipher LeVar.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Had Chiefs Taxans at the Super Bowl. I had Chiefs,
had je Lions.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Set up Joan, it's you, Bunjolyos had freaking Cincinnati and Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's right up, Ohio. Ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Well, speaking of which, that's great. Start with the AFC
North where LeVar is the only one he scored correctly
in this with Baltimore at the top of the AFC
North and Cleveland at the bottom. In contrast, Brady, you
did have Cleveland at the top at eleven and eleven
and six winning.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
The Age Clown. I did also have Baltimore the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I mean, that's the thing is you're do you want
to buy division, But if you look at the playoff teams,
like some of us were more right than others.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That is how that was gonna have mine all the
way filled in.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So Okay, I mean, I mean Vard, I don't I
don't get where you guys are saying LeVar like I didn't.
I mean, if I'm asked to do something, not do
it like you mean it's incomplete, Like.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I mean one of us have have records for every
single team on.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
That you did jump from division straight to the championship round.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So that's where that's blank.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
But LaVar won the AFC North and the team right
from Buffalo Tosi one.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That put records next to your team. Yeah, because it's
not hard to do. He's got to take a little
extra work. I give you guys the website every.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Year, mister, work to do what their final what their
final record is going to be.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I know what they're going to be ranked. That website
you gave us sucks, It doesn't. It's actually awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I mean it. And had you put in Cleveland in
the super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
No, I put Cleveland the Super Bowl for all you
Browns fans out there to think otherwise.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I did it. I made that decision.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I had them winning a tiebreaker over Cincinnati at both
being eleven six, and that was my fault.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That was my bad.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So in the AFC East, what is I'm looking at
a Brady and I in first place?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
What is ny J? What does that stand for?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, because that's another one that John didn't need to
put a record beside or even had them, and the
running for anything.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Jonas Jonas was high on Miami though except last. It's ridiculous.
Everybody had another thing, is LeVar.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Some of these I got their record exactly right or
it's like a game off, So there's something to that.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm not going to look at what you did right.
I'm gonna look at everything you did wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Trust me, I know that I don't have anything on
here for the a f C South one and two.
That's dumb. I don't have it for a f C
playoff wild card for one, that's dumb.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Your chance worldcard round, no way. I guess about the
World Carter divisional you.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
And here's the problem is when you don't do records, LeVar,
that's why you don't have a bye like your You
don't know who your one seed is.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I mean, that's stupid.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Jonas doesn't have records next to his he has a Wow,
that's Jonas is lazy.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
No, that's because Jonahs has has Lee. But that's you have.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Your information on your your computer that you do and
Jonas has Lee and there you go.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
You guys both had the a f C West with
Casey Chargers, while uh, well, Jonas had the back half
the Raiders above are the Broncos above the Raiders. Uh
the last everybody had the Lions winning the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Good job everybody there.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
NFC East, Uh, that was where Brady got Philly, right,
so did uh?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So did Jonas?
Speaker 7 (35:23):
And uh nobody did really well in the NFC South.
Uh Tampa nobody took Tampa Bay to win that division.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Uh them as a playoff team, though, dude, you did?
You did?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (35:35):
NFC West, what go ahead, I'm making my way through
the divisions here.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
NFC West.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
LeVar and Jonas both had the Rams winning the NFC West.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Up top, Good job you guys up top? And why not?
But I'm gonna be on my own on this one.
All right, let's go to the wild card route. There
we go. Let's get to where where Brady shining. Let's go.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Uh yeah, yeah, nobody got an ex act but Brady,
you did have k C with the bye Good job there.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Uh. Baltimore Houston all playoff teams, yep, Houston, yep. Uh,
I mean Levar's got a Miami slash Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
At one point, Jonas did have the Jets with the
with the bye or yeah, with the bye?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So what Lee?
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Good job there with the Jets getting the.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Bye Aaron Rodgers, what is even Miami Jonas has the
fewest playoff teams, the only playoff teams you ever Houston.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Came to Wait a second, Lee, why did you change
my picks?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That's not what I had? Who's the ahle changed? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Hey, who went into this Google doc and change these picks?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah? Exactly? I had the Jets is the one seed.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Jesus Christ I picked for the a f C, but
did no picks for the NFC.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That's what you're saying. Yes, yeah, for all of you,
this is not surprising. When we went over this stuff,
you were not very engaged. I don't you know what?
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
So I did I'm picks and then doing and then yes,
that's that's that's about right.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
There is no way why y'all. So if that happens
to be true, why are y'all ratting me? Like a.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Secondly, why would I even participate in it if I
wasn't going to fully fill it out?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Wait, that's your part of the show, because you're one
of those your part of the show.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I find it hard to believe that LeVar just didn't
give picks.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I think they were. It is, this is what happens. Bullcrap.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But whatever I put, I gave you picks for some,
not for all of them. How would does that even work?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
If we're all going division by division? How would he
just leave out half the do?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
And I know how c ISQ does s like this
what he's doing right now. I would not have left
this stuff undone because there's an easy way.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
There's a prop to take more time to prepare.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
There's an easy way to do this, like I'm not
we can go back scores on.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
My gay archives. Lvar's gonna keep talking, but we have archives.
We can fact check this, so we can listen to it.
We'll find it. We'll play a back.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I'll see. Well, let's do it. Hold on, here's the question.
I don't even need that, LeVar. What are you gonna do.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
If we find out that you didn't make the picks
and that Lee was right?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I mean whatever, I just don't even understand why were.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
What's the problem, though, is you can't say whatever and
then take this holy stand.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm gonna stand on it, like you can't do.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
That I'm standing on it. I'm saying, why y'all sweating
meat so bad?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
If I didn't do this, you should have just been like,
you know what, can we finish it?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
If that's what it was. I clearly came up with
my Super Bowl picks.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
So I didn't give you a divisional round for AFC,
but I did for the NFC Championship.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Brown, Wait, why was his the best one? I had
freaking Philly and it they won it? In can't see
they even win it.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
It's a good fair point, but you did have Cleveland winning,
so by default that's a.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But you don't even know how you scoring it. You
didn't even have it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I'm incomplete, But yet I beat both the dem Like
this is the most ass backwards deal I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Like, Lee, who did I have in the Super Bowl? Jonas?
Speaker 7 (39:06):
You had Cincinnati versus Dallas with Dallas winning classic?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
One hundreds of classic. That's ridiculous. Classic, That is ridiculous.
I mean technically I had longer you did.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
You had three hundred and fifty to one odds, and uh.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
LeVar you had forty to one odds. Hey, what do
you think maybe the long odds Cleveland or Philly. Oh, good, since.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
You couldn't have been than that one, Lee, Who am
my NFC playoff teams?
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Your NFC playoff wild Card round was Philly with the
with the bye, Detroit versus Dallas, Atlanta versus San fran
the Rams versus the Bears.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh, he thought the Bears were going to be good
this year. He had dumb number two in the North.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
They would have Philly with a bye, Yes, Brady. In fact,
you had Philly with the by, so did Jonas.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
And I wouldn't have anything because I didn't put anything
on there that the.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Rams box Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
It's not bad the sixers when the NFC is so stupid, Slee?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
How they doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
He made picks, He made his divisional rounds, he did
his divisions. He said, I'm skipping the wild card and
the divisionals.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm the champions. I don't find that. I remember, I'm
with you. Let's find it. Let's find it, all right,
we need to one way or not, I'm skipping that.
Would we have would we be able to find that?
For Lee's leftovers on it? All right? There's no way
you can find it. We won't have it by Thursday.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
There's no way you can find it because it's not there.
I'm just going to skip this. Everybody else is filling
it in. I'm just going to skip those.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
I wish I wrote the date that we did me too,
what was before the season, so you can kind of
start clearly before the season.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
By the way, the better story is that LeVar did
make picks, but that Bree or Coop went in and
deleted Instill and make him look bad on the air.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
That would be I just totally skipped the AFC playoffs,
totally skipped it.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
What are you going to do, though, if you actually
did skip it, what are you gonna do? It matter
that you can't complain about it doesn't. But you can't
complain about this does. If you're saying it doesn't matter, Brady,
screw you, Lee, screw you.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
What about Lorraina? You're cool, you can stay joning. Yeah,
the rest of y'all. I'm out, man out, I'm out.
I don't want to talk about it. We come to
our barbecue, not at all.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm out.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
All right, coming up next here, we are going to
close up shop with Lee's left over. We're going to
get to the bottom of this fiasco to find out
whether or not LeVar told an entire division to go
screw itself.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That's next. These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible,
but they're still.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Good time to find out what slap.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's Lee Lajos, all right, So lead to lap.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Before the break, we were discussing some missing items on
Levar's preseason NFL picks that we went over and there
was some debate as to whether or not he actually
made picks and they were just not written in, and
we decided to go back and find the actual audio
of the segment we did before here.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yes, I haven't listened to it.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
Something tells me I'm probably gonna have to eat a
little crow here. Let's start with the NFC, because we
did this in two different hours. We did NFC an
hour one on September fifth. If you want to go
back and listen on the podcast, you can go find
it anywhere you find your podcasts. This is our one
September fifth, Levar's NFC playoff predictions.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
As far as the playoff pitcher, I look at the
Dallas Cowboys being noticed might sound crazy, They'll be the
two seat to Detroit being the one seat and like
whatever the matchups are from there. I didn't break them
down like that like Q did, but I will say
San Francisco will be in the mix, the Saints will
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be in the mix, and obviously you get so you
got the Eagles, the Niners, the Saints, the Detroit Lions,
and whoever else you want to throw in there. That's
that's y'all. Y'all got that. But those are my four
and out of that, I do believe fourteen.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
There's seven teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Rams in there too, battle Way, well, we don't have
any on here. The MS in we don't have any
on there.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Though.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I wasn't going to give a matchup because I didn't
know who was going to play? Oh but the all right,
did San fran play Dallas? Did Detroit play Tampa Bay?
Did Atlanta play the Raider? I mean the Rams, Like,
I'm not going to give you a game when I
don't know who's going to play. I didn't know who
was going to play against anybody. Well, I know a
(44:05):
prediction like these guys were going to play in games.
You ain't get one of them, right, like I didn't.
I just wasn't going to predict a game.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I give you.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Jonas did that. I did that as well. So that's
what we're saying. Is what I'm saying is I don't
have to play that game. I'm not trying to pick
who's going to play one another.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Let's see, Jonas picked Detroit to play Dallas, Atlanta to
play San fran the Rams to play Chicago.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
None of them are right.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
What am I going to like just throw out working
the playoff. Second, I'll throw out who's going to play
in the playoffs. I'm not gonna throw out who's playing
against One.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Of the Rams did play Chicago was like Week four, Okay,
so I wasn't that far man.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I'm not playing this game. Which all here we go South.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I have the Chiefs winning their division obviously. I have
Buffalo winning their division obviously. I had Baltimore winning their
division three obviously, And what is that?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
All of them?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I think that's all for Chiefs, Come on, Bills, come on. Okay,
So let's move to the wild card. In my wold situation,
I actually think it will be who Cincinnati, Okay. I
think Jacksonville is a team to to look for, and
uh in Miami Dolphins or I think you do.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I need one more.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I said, Miami South the only ones I missed. I
missed the team on divisional on you missed the entire South. Yeah,
I missed the South. I missed one team, but vindicated
LEAs vindicated, vindicated for having me down for zero teams
in ridiculous whatever the South, stupid, I gave y'all names.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I gave y'all teams. You put zero teams down. Bro,
you didn't even say who won the AMC South. And
you're trying to defend yourself just id it.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Can't admit it gave three teams. Can those three teams
be down? And we say, okay, you didn't give a
four team on the South.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
You gave division winners.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You never gave everything in the ANWA division winners and
who I thought would be uh, we didn't give an
AFC South Division winner. I missed one. Q you're like
hung up on the entire division. I missed one team.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
You mentioned Jackson I gave.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
I gave jack wildcard teams, and I gave you three
winners three three divisional winners on on the a FC,
I miss one. I asked that I miss it since
you so goddamn smart. Why don't you tell me I
missed it?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Few?
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Why don't you tell me a real time I missed it?
Pick a team, LeVar your work for you to Okay,
well you're doing it now, you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
This with it. No, I actually am having fun with this.
So if you think I'm seriously well.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
And really, the question was whether or not Lee filled
in the document wrong or if you had actually made Lee.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Clearly leaves me out on things.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I gave names, I gave teams again any other man
Lee's defense, Lee got a right.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
I don't know how you put down even Tennessee in
Indiana or Indianapolis because you didn't give any teams Fantasy South.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So that actually begs the question, Lee, why did you
just why.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I gave the two teams I gave teams for the picks.
I did not give a team a winner for the playoff.
We gave teams on I don't I don't even get.
I don't know, I don't even know. I don't even know,
Like like Lee just filled out the bottom half.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I don't even know or whatever would you do that?
Speaker 5 (47:44):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, why do you fill out two and not?
Speaker 5 (47:46):
He did not that he said them, but still why
do you even fill out any where?
Speaker 4 (47:50):
You're just like, well, who wouldn't he pick to Win's.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Just put the two teams have no shot away.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
That's ridiculous. I picked teams. I just gave teams there.
I just missed one on the AFC South. I miss
one division on who was going to be the winner.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I gave you.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Three other winners and I gave you three other teams.
That's three matchups. You could have said.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
If I were to put my you know, my thinking
glasses on, if you had Jacksonville as the sixth seed,
that would mean that you have Indianapolis winning the South
christ and there you go.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Goodbye, goodbye,
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As, Rady Winn and Jonas Knox. On radio, they.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Got Malcolm X on today.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Huh that is we back back, We all the way back,
baby taking them.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
No sports on up in here, No, no, would there
be the golf channels on though, there is that so.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
For anybody interested. Yeah, there's always golf somewhere, buddy, Yeah, always.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I mean, you know, not where I grew up, But
that's a whole other story.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Where you grew up used to dodge golf falls as
a kid, I say that was your biggest concern.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
That's just getting one reckless accusations, definitely not just totally reckless.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But most kids heard Popo and they'd like kind of
start running all that.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
You're at four, yeah, and uh yeah, listen, the mean
streets of a thousand oaks, California will not stand for that.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Most most kids were scared of a left hook. You
were scared of a duck hook. Yeah, messed up, man.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
But how are we feeling here to a Monday morning?
How's everybody feeling good?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Everybody's rocking and rolling me.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
No need to try to like go shop around to
other teams things like that, you know, no, yeah for
us with this day, Yeah, someone in ta Is.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I mean, I guess we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Apparently Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
And his representatives are going to find out because, according
to Tom Pelasero and Ian Rappaford of the NFL Network,
the Rams have given him permission to not really seek
a trade, but to gauge the market value for what
potentially he could get if another team was willing to
annie up or pay up for his services this upcoming year.
(02:04):
So that is the very latest on the sort of
awkward and weird dynamic that is going on between Matthew
Stafford and the Rams.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Does it have to be a first round pick to
get this done? Does it have to be?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Probably for the Rams, Yeah, although they haven't. I mean,
look again, they've traded them before in the past when
they've had them for other veteran players. But I think
that's probably the value they attribute to what they believe
to be a starting franchise quarterback.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Now.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
The only thing I'd say which is interesting about this
entire situation is I don't believe matt Stafford has a
no trade clause in his contract, so they had to
have gone to let's Sneed and Sean mcpay and said,
this is what we'd want and if you guys aren't
going to provide it, like, let us go see what
else is out there. But the Rams didn't need to
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do that necessarily. They're just trying to be helpful and
you know, basically help, you know, create some sort of
trade value if they can if they're going to lose them.
But I guarantee you they've got to plan be in
the back of their mind. And I do wonder if
it happens to be Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I'm just curious if if you're going to demand the
first round draft pick. I just think the question has
been tossed around what team would do it, And I
think the consensus that that I got from even talking
to the guys on the weekend is that there's no team,
there's no GM that is going to give up a
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first round draft pick for a thirty seven year old quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think Pittsburgh mate, if if you were.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
To give up a first rounder for for for a
quarterback that late in his in his career, you are
basically saying it.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Is all in.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It's all or nothing, right, now because we are about
to what number would that be?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
What number to do the Steelers at.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's not going to be it's not going to I
was about to say it's not going to be a
top top ten pick. I wouldn't assume, like, for instance,
the teams that are interested. I mean, that's not bad.
That's not bad. I don't I mean, that's the first round.
I mean, does twenty one get it done? Q? I
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give you twenty one pick, twenty first pick, you take
Sam Darnold. Does that get it done?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (04:32):
I mean I think the question is can they create
a market because you know, is there multiple teams that
will be interested in matt Matthew Stafford to the point
where it's not just a first round pick then it
becomes a first and what because I do think it'll
be more than just a first round pick. And I know,
I know it sounds like a lot for a guy
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at his age, but Matthew Staffords still playing some good football,
and if you get two more years out of it's
probably worth it. If you are one of those teams
that feels like you're in a window and one of
your last pieces is the quarterback spot, I mean, that's
just how I feel, not whether or not it happens.
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I don't know, because when I look at the scenario altogether,
I don't understand why Stafford would want to look elsewhere.
And look, the Rams are never wanted to play hardball.
I think they're actually really fair in how they negotiate
and talk about these things with players. But I still
am like, dude, like what else is a better situation
for a team that took the Super Bowl champs kind
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of to the wire a little bit, and they're a
young team and there's just there's stuff to build around.
I know they're not going to have Cooper Cup, but
don't you trust less sneed to find you another wide
receiver to bring in. So maybe it's just a negotiating
tactic between Stafford and his agent in trying to find
out teams that are willing to give them that contract,
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and then it comes down to whether or not the
Rams are willing to trade based on the compensation. And
if that's all this is, like, Okay, you know, you
get one more bite at the apple if you're Matthew Stafford.
But I still don't know if it's the best thing
for his career from a playing standpoint, like, I know
he's got a Super Bowl and maybe want to say,
all right, make as much as you can for the
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last couple of years you're playing. But there's gotta be
something in the back of his mind saying this is
a good team, like this is a team that can
maybe make it to an NFC championship game, and you
never know who wins in that scenario. So it is
a bit surprising that he would want to be elsewhere
at this juncture of his career.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Do the Colts make sense what they do it? I don't.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean, you're basically saying, Anthony Richardson's not it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yes, Okay, that's what you're saying. I mean, that's what
they're saying.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
I just on the stafford wanting to leave front. That's
the part that makes no sense to me, Like I
just and we talked about it a little bit lastlast week.
Other than to get the cash, get more cash, okay,
but don't like don't you have enough? Like you got
It's not like the Rams are offering him like twenty
twenty bucks from Yeah, it's it's what do you think
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the Rams are offering him twenty bucks in a bag
of roll Golds like he's he's getting paid. It's not
like they're they're low balling him to the point where,
oh my god, they're offering me five million a year,
Like he's gonna he's going to get a fair deal
from the Rams.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I just if he's talking, are based off of all
three of us? And if it's based off of all
three of us, do you bring our value down because
of what you're willing to take. That's what you just
made me think.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Just now, he is getting paid twenty three million in
base salary this year.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
He wants to jump up the forty. Well, I'm sure
he wants to go to fifty. I mean, look at
it this way.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
If brock Purty's going to make fifty, do you think
he wants to make less than brock Purty no, a
quarterback in his own division. No, of course, not as
much as you want to say, Oh, he's got a
lot of money, of course, dude. But do you think
rich people are like, hey, I'm good, I don't want
to make any more money.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, you're being kinds sated off of what you bring
to the table too. It's not like I've been great
so I can continue to be at this high level
under a different contract and keep it the same, Like
I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
If you're saying human, yeah, it's human. Make sure once
you have a lot and you want more, it's just
you know, anyone who lets you're just refute that stupid yeah,
because again, once you make more, you want more.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And that's where he's at.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
So he doesn't want to have to play for a
twenty three million dollar you know, base salary on that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So, so fifty million with the Giants are forty million
with the Rams, all.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Right, I mean we don't know how much they're off. Rahm.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Here are the teams that are being put out there,
the Colts, the Raiders, the Giants, the Jets, the Titans,
and the Steelers. I think, personally, the only team that
would make sense. Well, I think too, I think two teams. Well, yeah,
(09:12):
I think two teams could make sense, and that would
be the Giants and that would be the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well, I think does make sense. Who you got? Titans? Yeah,
I'm out there. I do feel like that Titans.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Well, if I feel like Brian Callahan might have a
lot of pressure on him to win, and if he does,
that's a scenario where you might say, let's bring in
a veteran, let's try to win some football games, because
that's a winnable Division two. You know, Houston's now at
the top, but still the way they play this year,
it makes you think that you could get competitive in
(09:48):
that rather quickly. And if that's the case, you go
to a no stdium tax a state where he likes money.
You know, Stafford's from the South. I gets them closer
back to home. Everyone loves Nashville. There's a lot of
boxes it checks. And if it's at the end of
your career and you can try to, you know, bring
about a team that makes it to the playoffs or.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Win the division.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
So you get a lot of appreciation for a team
that right now, I feel like there's a lot of
heat on Brian Callahan.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
That's a good old ball ever men in the in
the drow and the lulls and the day I was born.
Matthew Stafford seems like one of them tight cats. He
does sure, Georgia guy, I can see that. I mean,
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that's a compelling discussion point.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
That you're basically saying, yeah, I forget about super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know, it's just gonna well, I don't think you're
going to win a Super Bowl in Tennessee. And the
upcoming year or two.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
The only team that gets him anywhere close to where
he would be with the Rams if your return via
the Steelers, that's it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
There's the possibility playoffs, and there's the possibility that could
exists with New York with the Giants because their defense
is not bad. I'm telling you, there is a pretty
good defense, and if you create some more offense, then
they could become a competitive team in the East. They could,
(11:16):
and they could come out of nowhere seemingly, but they're not.
They're not that far away from being a pretty good
team that maybe one or two pieces, you add another
receiver to that, that receiving corps, and you shore up
what you got going on up front. You could possibly
do that in free agency and through the draft. They're
(11:38):
not you, Adam Matthew Stafford. You might not be as
far away from from being good as as people may
assume they are in New York.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's my assessment of it.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
And the only thing that I would say about the Jets,
because personnel wise, Stafford could go in there and they
could light up the world. With that that you know
that group they have and they are really good on
defense as well. I just don't think that you can
outperform this function. And I feel like that would be
you're taking another shot at it, another stab at it
(12:14):
with Aaron Glenn as the head coach, and I just
don't know it. I would have to see where they're
at in terms of how they're handling things. Is there
a cultural shift that's going to take place. I mean,
it happened in DC, and you saw how quickly things
can turn if you get a good quarterback in position,
and you got a good play caller, and you got
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a healthy environment for the players to be in. I mean,
things can change pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I would be surprised if they don't figure out a
way to get it done with the Rams. I just
I can't imagine that. I'm surprised he got to this point.
I didn't expect for it to take this turn, But
I just can't imagine the Rams and hit them both
wouldn't look at this and go, we're just better off
doing this together there, like it's better off that we
continue on than to go on.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Think anybody's going to offer a first round I mean
maybe twenty first pick that makes sense maybe, but I
didn't think anybody's going to go down.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
There'll be some teams to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I again, I think it depends on what else besides
the first round pick. I do want to just throw
this out there for conversation's sake. In eleven games that
Russell Wilson started, he threw sixteen touchdown passes. His rating
was very similar. I think it was like a ninety
five point six. His QBR was like a fifty one
point three. But Stafford's rating was actually lower in ninety
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three his QBR that was higher if you depend on
how you want to look at those. But he only
threw twenty touchdown passes over sixteen games, and he did
throw for more yards about ten more yards per game
than Russell Wilson. But I just when you talk about
Pittsburgh Steelers, I mean, I keep going back against Pete
every time he talks about it. Russell Wilson gave that
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offensive lift there in the passing game. Now, I know
it didn't finish the way they wanted to, but there's
a lot of different factors for that, and it's almost
like they might be a little better suited with Russell
Wilson or Justin Fields. I almost just don't see that
scenario playing out because I'm not sure it's the right
fit for Pittsburgh. I mean, Arthur Smith typically likes having
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a quarterback who can run a little bit too, and
you know, at Stafford this point in time in his career,
I think would like to be more in a pocket
passing offense. That might make some more sense. And by
the way, Las Vegas has a ton of money too.
You know, that's a team that, yes, is devoid of
some weapons, and if you're looking to have success, that
that may not be the team that you're looking for.
(14:41):
But if it's all about the contract and what you
could get offered, that's a team you keep an eye on.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
M I mean, they don't talk too of r about Russ.
All right, we are we've been moving on from Russell Wilson.
And I didn't say they were moving on from Russell Wilson.
They said they were moving on.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
From They say they were both set to become free
agentcy LeVar didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Leavar didn't say that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, we will keep you posted if we have any
breaking news on Matthew Stafford and his pursuit for a
half bill.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
He did better than I thought, he fitted more than
I thought he would. That's a p A guy. He's
not a PA guy through and through.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
He's got Pittsburgh written all over him.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
That's why he's got a sandwich at Primann's. I heard
you of a Pittsburgh tattoo?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Did he? Yeah? So I heard it.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Ain't not wrong with that. I mean, you know, go
for him, I mean he played for him. They had
a year together. Yeah, clearly they loved each other. It's
like four and two for life or something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Okay, where he grow up? Word, let's street he from.
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Speaker 4 (16:09):
App Apparently this is the news that has made the
rounds here, big news that apparently Shador Sanders is not
going to be working out at the scouting Combine in
Indianapolis this week. All right, so he is not going
to be working out, So I'm assuming is this just
he'll get the medicals and all that, but he's not
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going to do any of this throwing. And the expectation
is what he does. It is pro day and Boulder.
That's the that's the plan there for shadoor standers.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So this is not I mean the fact that new
not a big deal, I mean whatever.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Honestly, the only reason why the NFL or the NFL
network will make it a big deal is and this
has like changed dramatically in the past probably ten years
or so, is most agents know this, most coaches, I
mean there's not even head coaches that go to this
in some cases. I mean think about that. There are
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some teams who don't send everyone to the combine anymore.
So if that's the case, why should you feel like
it's necessary for you to go throw or do some
of those things in an environment that's not really conducive
to you showcasing the best of your ability. So if
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that's the case, go throw your protein. Throw all the
private workouts for each individual team. And we've had players
in the past talk about that like, yeah, I'm not
gonna do this, but I'll throw for whoever you know
wants me to throw it. You know, wants me to
work out for them, because that's actually a serious team
that's going to draft them, right, and all you're doing
by going to the combine now and throwing for them.
(17:43):
And there's some you know, talent evaluators and coaches who
will try to take issue with this, but they're full
of crap. Is you're basically doing it for TV. You're
doing it for the NFL because there's two things that
everyone wants to see. It's the forty yard dash and
it's the court backs throwing. Those are the two things.
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So all you're doing is supplying them content. That's That's
the truth of it all. And you know, I'm sure
Shador will have a very open pro day to the
media and everyone else out there that wants to watch
him and the rest of his receivers who are getting
drafted work out. So it's not a big deal. We
get to this time of the year, people try to
(18:24):
make it a big deal. It's unfortunate that that's the
case because you'll get some guys you're like, y'all want
them to go out there and compete. What are you
competing at, dude? They throw like two or three passes.
You're rotating out sitting there for five minutes throwing the
dude sometimes you've never even thrown to before. What's the competition?
Where's the scoreboard?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Now?
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I want to go out there and compete. Okay, we're
out there a compete. Yeah, I'm gonna go compete. That's
a big hog's leg in there. But that's the truth.
And again people will take issue with that. But this
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is a business now for a lot of these guys,
and there's some who view it and said, yeah, I'll
go throw it because I need to do everything I
possibly can to improve my draft stock. Should Sanders just
viewed as one of those, you know guys who will
probably go in the.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
First round him and cam Ward? Oh oh okay, idea,
what that was?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
That was.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
A dip? You don't love about Lee?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
By the way, in our rundowns is Lee will go
back and put things in segments after we've already.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Done them, like like, I don't know why it was
like the one time I've ever done it. Well, Wiley,
we're past that segment. It doesn't matter anymore. Like watch.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Oh no, I love the soft the soft keypad that
Brady has.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
People used to get shamed for not working out at
the combine.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They would shame you. Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
And they would make you feel it like when you
were walking and everybody else was about to work out, shame, shame, shame,
everybody about getting warmped up and about to go, and
you're standing there shame.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
That's the only that's the only reason I did the
bench press. I mean I tore my pcl so and
that was the other thing. It's like the timeline was
tighter from your bowl game to when you actually had
a test to the combine. I mean, now everything's been
kind of moved back, you know, a bit with the
way the season works for some of these guys. I
mean some of these guys are playing through mid January,
so it's a little more difficult too. I Mean there's
a bunch of reasons why you wouldn't do it nowadays,
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aside from what I just said was shoulder. Like, if
you're running a forty yard dash and you know this LeVar,
you become a track athlete, like you basically train like
a track athlete to get out the blocks you're basically
your start correct and learn how to run a forty
yard dash because it's the one time in your life
you're gonna be asked to do so, and it's gonna
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be the most important forty yard dash you ever run,
your first and last. Most likely. Yeah, fair, very fair.
And if you're playing through mid January and we've got
the combine starting up with the twenty eighth, you basically
have a month to recover and do that. It's a
really hard time to be able to get your body
recovered and where you need it to be to test
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to your optimal levels. Like for your vertical you're broad jumped,
you're at five ten five. The techniques that go along
with it, people don't understand. There are techniques and how
you run the L drill and how you do the
five ten five that you are taught and you work on,
and that it comes down to it a certain amount
of steps, the way you plant, the way you do it.
But even for the drills, like even for a lot
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of the drills, if you're a dB or safety for example,
and you're back pedaling, they want to see you how
you switch your hips and turn them running the other way.
There's techniques to that that you might say, well, you
aren't all these guys already aware of that, not to
the to the degree or the specifical, like the specific
way in which you do it as an NFL athlete
that you're gonna be taught how to do it during
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the shrills. So there's there's a lot of learning that
goes on amongst the fact that you're trying to get
your body to be recovered and then back up to
as explosive and as powerful as you can make it
in that amount of time. So there's there's other reasons
why you wouldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, I've always felt like combine and pro days is
is just an opportunity for coaches to continue to stay
away from home. If you if you're asking me the truth,
I mean because in reality, in reality, if you're really
(22:45):
thinking about what a pro day should represent, it's like
a workshop or or like a uh what is it
like when you bring people to places to find jobs
like club? Not not I mean not too but like work,
a career fair, A career fair? All right, you're identifying
(23:09):
young talent that you're not aware of. What do you
need to Like if a kid is going to grade out,
they've already graded out as a top round pick, like
a first rounder. I don't see the purpose in you
bringing them there and having them do anything at all
(23:32):
other than interview with you, interview show you what they
understand in terms of the x's and o's. To me,
if you were really going for real impact of a
job interview in these scenarios, ask them about what they're
doing in the communities you know that they're serving, if anything,
well as learn about them as people and how they
(23:56):
can contribute to your community from that perspective, because I
think when you're talking about combines and pro days, I
think it's really more so about getting to know these
guys that you've already seen put because you've already put
your film.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's already there. If you put it there, it's there.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So it's not like you're going to you've heard like
the Mike Mamulas of the world, and somebody goes into
the combine and they trick you through the combine that
they should be a higher prospect than what they are
what they were coming out of you know, playing on
the field, that doesn't happen very often anymore at all. Really,
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you're not sneaking up on somebody as a prospect that's
played at Alabama or has played at you know, Georgia
or Notre Dame. You're not sneaking up on anybody as
a prospect. So to me, it's just really the opportunity
for these guys to continue to be on the road.
(25:00):
Go get go, get meals that are on the organizations,
Go get drunk on the dime of the organization.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And not have to be at home.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I mean, that's you know, I mean, I just honestly,
because you don't have to reckless stave if you don't
really you know these people you get invited. You got
to be the most elite players in the league. Even
if you're obscure, you're still pretty elite to get invited
to the combine. So why are you inviting the elites
you know exactly who they are. You should be inviting
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next tier guys that I really don't know that much
about and watch them run. Oh, you didn't play much,
but you're a senior and you're coming out. We heard
you're good. But this guy in front of you that
we did invite to the combine, that we watch run
for two thousand yards in the season, we want to
watch him work out. Does that make sense? It doesn't
really make it. If you really step back and think
(25:52):
about it. You're looking at guys who have already proven
to you they can play at the next level. That's
the bottom line. So go and look at guys that
you don't get to see. Go look at guys that
this guy is six foot eight, why is he not playing.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Let's see what he has. Let's see if he can run.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Because there's a guy that's out there that's not running
a fast forty, But I guarantee you he'll run every
every dude down out there that runs a four three
four four forty. He'll run every last one of them down,
every last one of them.
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Exactly exactly that Bobo you already know. Don't worry, bro,
I do the homework. I mean I asked questions like
who who is listening to us?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
As we've talked about it before, truck.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Drivers give us a lot of love. Man, They be
checking us out. They'd be listening. Shouts out to you.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
You know where they get their little red Stockport radio. Yeah, bobo,
who was listening to the show? And uh, let's just
put it this way. As we've pointed out before, he
was really conflicted during the pack.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
May Weather fight. Someone say is fight himself?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You ever punch your own self in the mouthing.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Jim Carrey for what was a liar raw kicking my
own ass.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
When you put together the season review, were you drunk? Tang?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I am seeing some discrepancies that right now as I'm
looking through.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
I don't know about discrepancies. It's just hard to follow.
Are you one eye on this thing, one on the ground?
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Whould you have one in the NFC the Celtics, Tang,
I do see a problem in the a f C West,
So there.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Were So are we cleaning this up right now here
while we're we're on the air, I mean, are we
doing this? Or what we got? NFL theme music? Let's uh,
let's bang this out here. I feel great about how
my season went.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I don't know about you, guys. I'll say this. I
had a decent amount of teams that I thought would
make the playoffs. Make it. Now, it wasn't always in
the right order, but it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I mean, at least y'all don't have blanks on y'alls.
I clearly took part of this, this whole pick, this
whole deal.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Yeah, but you.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Weren't as elaborate as Jonas and I. You did skip
a few categories. No, I skipped a few categories. Kind
of What happened to the AFC South, I don't I
don't get it. What did I skip for only pick two?
I only picked two teams at a FC South? Yeah? Okay,
what do you guys?
Speaker 7 (29:49):
I think I think you had a toss up between
the other two. I think you had a toss up.
I had a Jacksonville and Houston. You said one of
them is gonna get first, one of them is gonna
get second.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Oh god, all right, I'm not I'm not blaming anyone,
but I'm not blamingly either in this instance.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
All right, okay, I'll take that. I don't even care
like I could care less. Well, all right, well, it's
just hard to follow.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
How are you construct?
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Are you looking at the market's attachment le Barget's an
incomplete is what we're saying.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Ridiculous. This is not possible looking at the Google doc.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
The Google doc, I didn't even put that there. Somebody
else put that there. You went say, uh, are you
you filled out?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
The less? Who else would put this there?
Speaker 7 (30:35):
I was filling I was out one day and somebody
filled in and like copying and.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Pasted free or coop bree. Why would they update?
Speaker 7 (30:42):
So someone was so professional put it there somewhere and
took it off because someone.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Was so professional that they did your job for you
when you were gone, and now you're going to throw
them under the bus.
Speaker 7 (30:54):
I had put it there, and I knew you would
have this complaint because it's so hard to put on
the Google Chat. I always given you, guys the attachments
in separate emails, which has a lot better for me.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
I never got an attachment for this either, So I
have no idea what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
All right, it's in your email. It's what do email.
I send email. I've sent it to you several times.
I just sent it in the break to you.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
All I know is this is some BS. I'm looking
I'm going down a wow car. It doesn't matter. It's BS.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Second, hold on some bs. Hold on? How did LeVar
win He didn't have one team in the Super Bowl?
He Kansas City and had Kansas City in there. Okay,
let me break it down.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
Since I'm the one who's reading this, uh this document
here that I put Kansas City beat in Detroit, I'm
the only one who could decipher LeVar.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Had Chiefs Taxans at the Super Bowl. I had Chiefs,
had je Lions.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Set up Joan, it's you, Bunjolyos had freaking Cincinnati and Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's right up, Ohio. Ridiculous. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Well, speaking of which, that's great. Start with the AFC
North where LeVar is the only one he scored correctly
in this with Baltimore at the top of the AFC
North and Cleveland at the bottom. In contrast, Brady, you
did have Cleveland at the top at eleven and eleven
and six winning.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
The Age Clown. I did also have Baltimore the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
I mean, that's the thing is you're do you want
to buy division, But if you look at the playoff teams,
like some of us were more right than others.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
That is how that was gonna have mine all the
way filled in.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So Okay, I mean, I mean Vard, I don't I
don't get where you guys are saying LeVar like I didn't.
I mean, if I'm asked to do something, not do
it like you mean it's incomplete, Like.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I mean one of us have have records for every
single team on.
Speaker 7 (32:48):
That you did jump from division straight to the championship round.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
So that's where that's blank.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
But LaVar won the AFC North and the team right
from Buffalo Tosi one.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That put records next to your team. Yeah, because it's
not hard to do. He's got to take a little
extra work. I give you guys the website every.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Year, mister, work to do what their final what their
final record is going to be.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I know what they're going to be ranked. That website
you gave us sucks, It doesn't. It's actually awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I mean it. And had you put in Cleveland in
the super Bowl?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
No, I put Cleveland the Super Bowl for all you
Browns fans out there to think otherwise.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I did it. I made that decision.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I had them winning a tiebreaker over Cincinnati at both
being eleven six, and that was my fault.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That was my bad.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
So in the AFC East, what is I'm looking at
a Brady and I in first place?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
What is ny J? What does that stand for?
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, because that's another one that John didn't need to
put a record beside or even had them, and the
running for anything.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Jonas Jonas was high on Miami though except last. It's ridiculous.
Everybody had another thing, is LeVar.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Some of these I got their record exactly right or
it's like a game off, So there's something to that.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I'm not going to look at what you did right.
I'm gonna look at everything you did wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Trust me, I know that I don't have anything on
here for the a f C South one and two.
That's dumb. I don't have it for a f C
playoff wild card for one, that's dumb.
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Your chance worldcard round, no way. I guess about the
World Carter divisional you.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
And here's the problem is when you don't do records, LeVar,
that's why you don't have a bye like your You
don't know who your one seed is.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I mean, that's stupid.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Jonas doesn't have records next to his he has a Wow,
that's Jonas is lazy.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
No, that's because Jonahs has has Lee. But that's you have.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Your information on your your computer that you do and
Jonas has Lee and there you go.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
You guys both had the a f C West with
Casey Chargers, while uh, well, Jonas had the back half
the Raiders above are the Broncos above the Raiders. Uh
the last everybody had the Lions winning the NFC North.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Good job everybody there.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
NFC East, Uh, that was where Brady got Philly, right,
so did uh?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So did Jonas?
Speaker 7 (35:23):
And uh nobody did really well in the NFC South.
Uh Tampa nobody took Tampa Bay to win that division.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Uh them as a playoff team, though, dude, you did?
You did?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (35:35):
NFC West, what go ahead, I'm making my way through
the divisions here.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
NFC West.
Speaker 7 (35:42):
LeVar and Jonas both had the Rams winning the NFC West.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Up top, Good job you guys up top? And why not?
But I'm gonna be on my own on this one.
All right, let's go to the wild card route. There
we go. Let's get to where where Brady shining. Let's go.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
Uh yeah, yeah, nobody got an ex act but Brady,
you did have k C with the bye Good job there.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Uh. Baltimore Houston all playoff teams, yep, Houston, yep. Uh,
I mean Levar's got a Miami slash Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
At one point, Jonas did have the Jets with the
with the bye or yeah, with the bye?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
So what Lee?
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Good job there with the Jets getting the.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Bye Aaron Rodgers, what is even Miami Jonas has the
fewest playoff teams, the only playoff teams you ever Houston.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Came to Wait a second, Lee, why did you change
my picks?
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That's not what I had? Who's the ahle changed? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Hey, who went into this Google doc and change these picks?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah? Exactly? I had the Jets is the one seed.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Jesus Christ I picked for the a f C, but
did no picks for the NFC.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That's what you're saying. Yes, yeah, for all of you,
this is not surprising. When we went over this stuff,
you were not very engaged. I don't you know what?
This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
So I did I'm picks and then doing and then yes,
that's that's that's about right.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
There is no way why y'all. So if that happens
to be true, why are y'all ratting me? Like a.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Secondly, why would I even participate in it if I
wasn't going to fully fill it out?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Wait, that's your part of the show, because you're one
of those your part of the show.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
I find it hard to believe that LeVar just didn't
give picks.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I think they were. It is, this is what happens. Bullcrap.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But whatever I put, I gave you picks for some,
not for all of them. How would does that even work?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
If we're all going division by division? How would he
just leave out half the do?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
And I know how c ISQ does s like this
what he's doing right now. I would not have left
this stuff undone because there's an easy way.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
There's a prop to take more time to prepare.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
There's an easy way to do this, like I'm not
we can go back scores on.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
My gay archives. Lvar's gonna keep talking, but we have archives.
We can fact check this, so we can listen to it.
We'll find it. We'll play a back.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
I'll see. Well, let's do it. Hold on, here's the question.
I don't even need that, LeVar. What are you gonna do.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
If we find out that you didn't make the picks
and that Lee was right?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I mean whatever, I just don't even understand why were.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
What's the problem, though, is you can't say whatever and
then take this holy stand.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm gonna stand on it, like you can't do.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
That I'm standing on it. I'm saying, why y'all sweating
meat so bad?
Speaker 2 (38:27):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
If I didn't do this, you should have just been like,
you know what, can we finish it?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
If that's what it was. I clearly came up with
my Super Bowl picks.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
So I didn't give you a divisional round for AFC,
but I did for the NFC Championship.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Brown, Wait, why was his the best one? I had
freaking Philly and it they won it? In can't see
they even win it.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
It's a good fair point, but you did have Cleveland winning,
so by default that's a.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But you don't even know how you scoring it. You
didn't even have it.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I'm incomplete, But yet I beat both the dem Like
this is the most ass backwards deal I've ever heard.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Like, Lee, who did I have in the Super Bowl? Jonas?
Speaker 7 (39:06):
You had Cincinnati versus Dallas with Dallas winning classic?
Speaker 2 (39:10):
One hundreds of classic. That's ridiculous. Classic, That is ridiculous.
I mean technically I had longer you did.
Speaker 7 (39:20):
You had three hundred and fifty to one odds, and uh.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
LeVar you had forty to one odds. Hey, what do
you think maybe the long odds Cleveland or Philly. Oh, good, since.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
You couldn't have been than that one, Lee, Who am
my NFC playoff teams?
Speaker 7 (39:44):
Your NFC playoff wild Card round was Philly with the
with the bye, Detroit versus Dallas, Atlanta versus San fran
the Rams versus the Bears.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh, he thought the Bears were going to be good
this year. He had dumb number two in the North.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
They would have Philly with a bye, Yes, Brady. In fact,
you had Philly with the by, so did Jonas.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
And I wouldn't have anything because I didn't put anything
on there that the.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Rams box Lions.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
It's not bad the sixers when the NFC is so stupid, Slee?
Speaker 2 (40:22):
How they doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
He made picks, He made his divisional rounds, he did
his divisions. He said, I'm skipping the wild card and
the divisionals.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm the champions. I don't find that. I remember, I'm
with you. Let's find it. Let's find it, all right,
we need to one way or not, I'm skipping that.
Would we have would we be able to find that?
For Lee's leftovers on it? All right? There's no way
you can find it. We won't have it by Thursday.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
There's no way you can find it because it's not there.
I'm just going to skip this. Everybody else is filling
it in. I'm just going to skip those.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
I wish I wrote the date that we did me too,
what was before the season, so you can kind of
start clearly before the season.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
By the way, the better story is that LeVar did
make picks, but that Bree or Coop went in and
deleted Instill and make him look bad on the air.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
That would be I just totally skipped the AFC playoffs,
totally skipped it.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
What are you going to do, though, if you actually
did skip it, what are you gonna do? It matter
that you can't complain about it doesn't. But you can't
complain about this does. If you're saying it doesn't matter, Brady,
screw you, Lee, screw you.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
What about Lorraina? You're cool, you can stay joning. Yeah,
the rest of y'all. I'm out, man out, I'm out.
I don't want to talk about it. We come to
our barbecue, not at all.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm out.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
All right, coming up next here, we are going to
close up shop with Lee's left over. We're going to
get to the bottom of this fiasco to find out
whether or not LeVar told an entire division to go
screw itself.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That's next. These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible,
but they're still.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Good time to find out what slap.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's Lee Lajos, all right, So lead to lap.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Before the break, we were discussing some missing items on
Levar's preseason NFL picks that we went over and there
was some debate as to whether or not he actually
made picks and they were just not written in, and
we decided to go back and find the actual audio
of the segment we did before here.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Yes, I haven't listened to it.
Speaker 7 (42:34):
Something tells me I'm probably gonna have to eat a
little crow here. Let's start with the NFC, because we
did this in two different hours. We did NFC an
hour one on September fifth. If you want to go
back and listen on the podcast, you can go find
it anywhere you find your podcasts. This is our one
September fifth, Levar's NFC playoff predictions.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
As far as the playoff pitcher, I look at the
Dallas Cowboys being noticed might sound crazy, They'll be the
two seat to Detroit being the one seat and like
whatever the matchups are from there. I didn't break them
down like that like Q did, but I will say
San Francisco will be in the mix, the Saints will
(43:17):
be in the mix, and obviously you get so you
got the Eagles, the Niners, the Saints, the Detroit Lions,
and whoever else you want to throw in there. That's
that's y'all. Y'all got that. But those are my four
and out of that, I do believe fourteen.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
There's seven teams in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Rams in there too, battle Way, well, we don't have
any on here. The MS in we don't have any
on there.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Though.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I wasn't going to give a matchup because I didn't
know who was going to play? Oh but the all right,
did San fran play Dallas? Did Detroit play Tampa Bay?
Did Atlanta play the Raider? I mean the Rams, Like,
I'm not going to give you a game when I
don't know who's going to play. I didn't know who
was going to play against anybody. Well, I know a
(44:05):
prediction like these guys were going to play in games.
You ain't get one of them, right, like I didn't.
I just wasn't going to predict a game.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
I give you.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Jonas did that. I did that as well. So that's
what we're saying. Is what I'm saying is I don't
have to play that game. I'm not trying to pick
who's going to play one another.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Let's see, Jonas picked Detroit to play Dallas, Atlanta to
play San fran the Rams to play Chicago.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
None of them are right.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
What am I going to like just throw out working
the playoff. Second, I'll throw out who's going to play
in the playoffs. I'm not gonna throw out who's playing
against One.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
Of the Rams did play Chicago was like Week four, Okay,
so I wasn't that far man.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
I'm not playing this game. Which all here we go South.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I have the Chiefs winning their division obviously. I have
Buffalo winning their division obviously. I had Baltimore winning their
division three obviously, And what is that?
Speaker 2 (45:04):
All of them?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
I think that's all for Chiefs, Come on, Bills, come on. Okay,
So let's move to the wild card. In my wold situation,
I actually think it will be who Cincinnati, Okay. I
think Jacksonville is a team to to look for, and
uh in Miami Dolphins or I think you do.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
I need one more.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
I said, Miami South the only ones I missed. I
missed the team on divisional on you missed the entire South. Yeah,
I missed the South. I missed one team, but vindicated
LEAs vindicated, vindicated for having me down for zero teams
in ridiculous whatever the South, stupid, I gave y'all names.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I gave y'all teams. You put zero teams down. Bro,
you didn't even say who won the AMC South. And
you're trying to defend yourself just id it.
Speaker 3 (45:59):
Can't admit it gave three teams. Can those three teams
be down? And we say, okay, you didn't give a
four team on the South.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
You gave division winners.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You never gave everything in the ANWA division winners and
who I thought would be uh, we didn't give an
AFC South Division winner. I missed one. Q you're like
hung up on the entire division. I missed one team.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
You mentioned Jackson I gave.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
I gave jack wildcard teams, and I gave you three
winners three three divisional winners on on the a FC,
I miss one. I asked that I miss it since
you so goddamn smart. Why don't you tell me I
missed it?
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Few?
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Why don't you tell me a real time I missed it?
Pick a team, LeVar your work for you to Okay,
well you're doing it now, you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
This with it. No, I actually am having fun with this.
So if you think I'm seriously well.
Speaker 5 (46:55):
And really, the question was whether or not Lee filled
in the document wrong or if you had actually made Lee.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Clearly leaves me out on things.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I gave names, I gave teams again any other man
Lee's defense, Lee got a right.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
I don't know how you put down even Tennessee in
Indiana or Indianapolis because you didn't give any teams Fantasy South.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
So that actually begs the question, Lee, why did you
just why.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I gave the two teams I gave teams for the picks.
I did not give a team a winner for the playoff.
We gave teams on I don't I don't even get.
I don't know, I don't even know. I don't even know,
Like like Lee just filled out the bottom half.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I don't even know or whatever would you do that?
Speaker 5 (47:44):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, why do you fill out two and not?
Speaker 5 (47:46):
He did not that he said them, but still why
do you even fill out any where?
Speaker 4 (47:50):
You're just like, well, who wouldn't he pick to Win's.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Just put the two teams have no shot away.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
That's ridiculous. I picked teams. I just gave teams there.
I just missed one on the AFC South. I miss
one division on who was going to be the winner.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I gave you.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Three other winners and I gave you three other teams.
That's three matchups. You could have said.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
If I were to put my you know, my thinking
glasses on, if you had Jacksonville as the sixth seed,
that would mean that you have Indianapolis winning the South
christ and there you go.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Goodbye, goodbye,
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