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the big conversation around Colorado is Shador Sanders, his draft stock,
where he ends up going in the draft. Shador spoke
on the NFL Network about his sort of the perception
(03:33):
around him, some of the storylines that have been about
him leading up to the draft. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We always understood to block out the noise, even from Jacksons,
State and Colorado.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's a lot of critics.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
It's a lot of hate, but.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We know what to do. We know how to handle
that in every way, so we remain happy. So he
apparently just focused on the task at hand. His dad, Dion, though,
spoke about the situation and although he wouldn't call out
anybody by name, he's aware that there is somebody who's
out to get his son. We like to call this
stuff out. Is you gonna make me call him out?
(04:07):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Team?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah? Yea, we don't.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
We don't get to understand it, I know, but don't
make me pull behind the courage to step in that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We keep it on the high road.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'm kind of cars to be honest people.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
From the high road.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
But I don't know to Andress.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I don't know that address to the high road. So
what's the There's not a shot in hell that Shor
Sanders falls out of the top five. In my mind,
it's impossible.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well it's it's possible.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean it's possible.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's not that it's possible. Anything's possible. It's the NFL Draft.
But does you fall to top ten? Probably not, you know,
or maybe I'll just sit it's possible.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, tope, I'll get you top fifteen, top fifteen, I
get you top fifteen to think he would can I.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Ask you guys this though, like outside of the d
on Chadure, this conversation around like the hate or whatever else,
like what's the buzzer on the draft? It's the least
interesting draft in a long time, long time, I mean,
and in all seriousness, like I asked that question because
I can't think of another draft where you're like, man,
(05:18):
I mean, Travis Hunters an incredible talent, and we're not
really talking about him.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They didn't jump behind that. Yeah, they didn't get that.
They didn't attach the horse.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
No, and and you could go talk about Abdul.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But liken't they haven't attached a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
This is this is really dominated the headlines, like the
cam Ward or Shadoor sanders. But in most cases people
are like, all right, I think the consensus is cam war,
but it's like okay, then there's.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just like hate towards Shador. I think some of this
stuff is fabricated, honestly.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, And actually I'll make the case that almost all
of it is. Because every time of year, like we
get to this point, there has to be someone who's
dropping in the draft.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Every year, someone's falling.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Everybody's rising and everywhere yeah or or something like that,
like or someone's just kind of staying, you know, put
where they're at.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I look at it and say, what most people don't
realize is a lot of the fluff bs that goes
on around the draft, around these topics and conversations are
done by the agents and the teams, and they do
them because if it's a competing agent, they're trying to
try to try to prop up their guy, at least
in public perception. Because the teams think what they want
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and these these the agents don't. They're not gonna persuade
them one way or another. They have their process of
looking at it, and ultimately, in most organizations, whether it's
the owner, general manager, head coach, whoever, is the ultimate
decision maker.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
He's got his mind made up and he's sure.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
As hell not talking to anyone in the media about it,
and he's sure as hell not talking to an agent
about it. So that that decision, if they're taking a quarterback,
especially taking.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
A quarterback, has probably.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Already been made or they have a really good idea
of who it's going to be, and it's not going
to change and it's not gonna get out. So all
this stuff we keep reading and hearing, to me, it's
all fluff, it's all dramas, all bs because it's either
an agent who's trying to, you know, take shots at
Shador Sanders so it makes his guy look better, maybe
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a team saying we can pass on Shador and get
a quarterback in another round, or it's a team it's
some guy who's like kind of knows the plants, like, well,
you know, maybe they wanted to follow him, you know,
maybe the Jets wanted to follow him at seven. And
so there's people who want to bad mouth and right
because remember the whole comment about well there was a
quarterback coach from a team at the top seven who
said he didn't have a Really it's like, well why
(07:44):
top seven?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Why not just top ten?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But why would Dion let me ask you this, if
it's fabricated, why would Dion say he knows the name
of the person doing the talking.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Because he might make it be an agent.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Because to me, the way we've experienced with the guys
like David Mulligetta, we've experienced that where they go on
these campaigns and try to protect their client, or the
perceived protecting of their client because they're so scared or
so concerned about losing out it. Like we've seen guys
who this happens with, and they'll they'll try to deny it,
but like all these insiders will tell you, they won't
say they won't say it on air because they don't
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want to hurt that relationship. And there's so many politics
behind the scenes that go on with this stuff. So
I'm sure Dian has a good idea of who said
what or who's saying what.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I can I knowing him if he said I know
who it is, you want me to call it like,
I'm I won't call his name out. My take on
it is it just further perpetuates the narrative when when
Prime does that, which they don't care. They don't care
if it perpetuates the narrative of the pressure that will
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come with drafting Shador Sanders. They don't want the Sanders family,
they don't like they're going to be who they're going
to be. They're going to handle things the way they're
going to handle them, and for for Schador to feel
as though he's being unfairly unjustly criticized, scrutinized, whatever it is,
hated on. He's basically telling y'all, look, I'm I don't
(09:13):
I don't pay attention to it. I'm focused. I've had
to deal with it all along. I'm good with it.
I think where the whole issue of all of this
turns into like a bigger deal as it applies to
Shador Sanders, is the influence of Dion Sanders. It has
to it has to be that you're going into a
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situation where if things do not go the way that
they are supposed to go with Shador Sanders, whether it's
getting him on the field, Imagine Shadoor Sanders goes to
a team and doesn't win the starting job. What pressure
are you going to feel? Deon or Shador Sanders goes
to the team and he's not very good?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
What pressure are you going to feel? And how do
you get through it? How do you get through it?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The difference between a David Mulgato or any other of
these agents out here or any other you know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Prospects out here, they do.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Not have one of the most influential figures in all
of sports as a father and by the way, an
involved dad like he'll tell you I'm his dad. He
does not play around with the idea of being a
protector of his kids. I'm their dad. This is a
(10:38):
compromising position. No matter how you look at it, you
are putting yourself in a compromised position if you take Shador,
say unless unless there is a relationship of trust and
respect between Dion Sanders and people within the organization of
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which Shador gets drafted. If there's not that relationship, you're
in You're you're at risk.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So do you think, say, for example, the Giants at three,
do you think there would be hesitation to take him
if he doesn't get an opportunity to play right away,
because the thought would be, well, Dion can come take
my job, and they would want to pair these guys up.
Do you think there's I don't think that's the hesitation.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I think the hesitation in New York is more of
they feel like they're in a spot where they have
to win right now. They did a veteran and it's
not so much they're like worried about Deonta.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It doesn't matter. They're not gonna have a job if
they don't win games.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So it's not about like, oh, we are old take
and if things don't go, we're gonna get fired. Like,
it doesn't matter who they take if it doesn't go
while they're fired. So I think the concern there is
more like, do you want to go the potentially through
the growing pains in having a rookie quarterback and you know,
not win as many games or not be as competitive
as you ultimately could be with a veteran.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think that's what's potentially at stake.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's amplified so much more if it's Shador Sanders, Like.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The whole idea of him dropping, like because the only
thing that we've heard is well he would drop because well,
he came across as arrogant, he came up. That's not
that's I can understand. Listen, there was concerns about Jalen
Carter because of the accident and all that that happened.
I could kind of understand that Laramie Tunseel smoking weed
(12:22):
out of a gas mask and it being like I
could kind of.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Drop, And that's that's age old. Like you said, there's
an age old storyline play out.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So he's over confident. Man. We heard the same thing
about Caleb Williams. We've heard the same thing about so
many other people in the draft. The idea that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You do not drop for being over he's too jacked up,
or he's got.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
To like look at how yoked he is, Like he
doesn't even look like a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, I mean he drinks Mayonna's with his coffee and
there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It's like, it's silly, Like I agree with that. That
stuff is met, that is manufacturing. That guy's to his girlfriend's.
His girlfriend's so hot, it's gonna be a distraction. It's like, okay,
and that's crazy because that has been a part of it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Hey, that guy is too confident for what he does
for a living. Boy, God forbid. We interviewed his mom.
His mom didn't pass the test. We interviewed his mom.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
This mom passed the test, maybe too much, maybe she
was she wants to be on the team.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I agree with that. I agree with that sentiment. But
the one thing that differentiates this one from the others
is that you're, hey, you know, it turned out to
be a couple of times. Man, didn't I play out
in Arizona anyway anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I'm just saying this is a different scenario. What is wrong.
I just think that that's a lot like. So you
take New York, for for instance, and you make them,
make them the example, make Shador Sanders, and you are
(14:03):
now in a scenario unless you have a relationship with
Dion Sanders and Dion No, if you don't think for
two seconds that Dion Sanders is gonna want to know
the plan for Shador Sanders because Dion is still going
to make sure that he's ultimately orchestrating Shador's success. Now,
(14:24):
Shador ultimately has to go out there and do what
he has done, which is he.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Has to deliver on the field. So make no mistake
about this.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
This ain't no daddy's little boy type deal where Shador
can't hoop or can't play ball and Daddy is the
reason why he's hyped up. Like no, Shador is a player.
He plays ball like he can stand on his own.
But I don't I don't. I don't think people understand
the level of of of what Dion Sanders feels for
(14:56):
his kids in terms of the amount of love that
goes into what their what their achievements are going to be.
He is super involved, super involved, So they're going to
have to explain to him what this plan is every
like that's going to be You gotta believe that this
(15:18):
is going to be problematic for any franchise unless there's
a personal relation, And even if there's a personal relationship,
it still might end up being problem problematic.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But that's that's what I was gonna ask. Do you
think that Dion's been in these discussions, if there's been
discussions had with teams talking to Shade or talking like,
do you think he's been brought in? Because if so,
I don't see a problem with that, Like, if he's
involved and he's been there every step of the way,
like like, don't you have some problem that's don't you
for any other prospect you're gonna take like there was
(15:51):
stuff out that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Well, you're going to talk to their coaches they are,
so say you're going to talk to the coach about
who they are.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
But what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
To you is is if he's involvement is different than
interviewing about the character or about the skill sets, what
does this guy mean to you? Like in that regard,
that's very different than your child. This is my child.
I want to plan for my child.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I think one of the things I've noticed about coach
Prime of the course of his transition from Jackson State
to Colorado is he seems very concerned and aware of
the narratives and aware of what the conversation is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Even if it comes his way, right, because he popped
off one writer before, right, like, you can't even come
around here anymore, right.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And I think there's a reason for this, you know,
when you have the perspective of a player and then
you're talking about young people, and then you're talking about
in this case, his son, I think one of the things.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And maybe this's just.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Coming off as more of a father too, so you
guys can relate to this, and our listeners can maybe
relate to this. But like, one of the things I
think you grow concerned by when I look back at
like my career when things went south for me, is
like is when you lose confidence and you start putting
your weight in what other people think or say. And
I think that's one thing that he's done an unbelievable
(17:18):
job of of not allowing whatever some of the naysayers
or narratives are that are out there to impact Shador,
to impact many of the young men he coaches and mentors.
And I think he's still protective of it even though
he's you know, not their coach, he's their dad, and
he's still aware and protective of it because that's that
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comes along with you, like you know, we can say
whatever we want, Like you mentioned about Jalen Carter and
now looking back after his rookie season, you're like, my god,
he might have been the best rookie right, Like he
was phenomenal this year. But at some point, if some
other altercation or off the field thing happens, what they
gonna bring up. They're gonna say, well, yeah, he had
(18:02):
some issues too when he's at Georgia, or yeah he
has like they're gonna bring up past events and and
if anything, whatever happened with Shador, the narrative in the
media is gonna be like, well, do you remember the
combine he had a bad interview and you remember.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Like like that's that's how this all works. And so
I think he's super aware of.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
How those narratives can kind of stick with guys and
stick with players, whether.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
They're true or not.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
They do right, that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Absolutely they do well.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And well here's the reality is everyone can be victim
of that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
To certain a certain I'm not a victim of it,
but you know the narrative, stay with me, yea exactly
And and and here's the thing is he knows that
because he experienced it firsthand as a player as great
as he was, a Hall of Famer at every flip
and level, he he still knows that. Like there's probably
(18:55):
things that people said about him that he was like,
this was never true, but people said it, so other
people believed it and it got out there. And here's
the thing is in today's society, today's world, and we've
seen this and I'm not trying to get off into
a certain tangent, but more often than not, people have
to prove their innocence instead of proved their guilt. And
(19:17):
so it's become now we're like if someone says something,
then it's like, well it must be true because someone
said something on social media or someone said something come
out of the combine, so it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Must be true.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And it's like, well, dude, now we have to go
on a campaign to defend something and waste energy on
something that isn't it really true or maybe it was
just a bad moment for someone or an awkward run
in Like not to sound weird, but like I was
coming out of a dental appointment yesterday. Some guys stopped
his car in the middle of traffic to like say
hello and say you know, He's like, I got my
(19:50):
jersey from my son all stuff, and I was like
talking to him, and meanwhile, there's like some cars started
to line up because he's blocking traffic, and one of
the guys behind him is like, hey, cross the road,
get out of the way. He's like yelling at me,
and I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to talk
to this dude. That guy probably thinks I'm an asshole now, right,
because I was like, buddy, just relaxed for a second.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
It's always you signed two hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
But but you.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Get my point.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It's like, it only takes in this society, it only
takes one person.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
No, I'm just it only takes now more than ever
one person.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
No, you're like.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Change all of that, right, You're right, b Also, I
thought I was gonna have a list this morning.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I'm not sure if I sound like I have one
or not.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
After Yes, I heard it loud clear, Yeah, yeah, got
a list A little bit. No, you didn't list, but
you shout it out there loud and clear.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I was like, hey, hey Poal, listen up over hair.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You let this guy in here talk with me for
a walk. You got that invisive line.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
No, My whole the whole side of my face was hey,
pet Pole, lift it up over her.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You get me a game. You definitely give me a game.
And I'll say this. I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's that one hundred and one person's audi you don't
sign that makes you that a hole, right, that's the
one hundred and first person that thinks you are the
worst person in the world and will tell people how
much of a d bag you are because you didn't
sign one hundred and one you know, autograph, that's one thing,
but gotten one hundred and one autograph before you know
what I'm saying, Oh, bro, I've signed.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I signed.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I signed until I'm done because I've been told When
I was a kid, I was told no by a
guy that was like my biggest hero. And it was
a high school guy. It's a high school basketball player.
I ran off on my dad. You know, my dad
ain't got no feet. I ran off while you got
prosthetic gloves. I just ran off on my dad. My
dad can't keep up. I didn't ran up the bleachers
to go get the autograph from this dude's basketball player
(21:40):
A big fan of asking for the autograph.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
He was like, later, kid, I'm watching the game. Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
My dad was like, hey, come on, you can't sign
him take a picture to sign an autograph. When he's like,
I'm just I'm focused right now, I said, don't worry
about it, Dad. I said, if I ever make it
in life, I'll never be like him and walked away.
So I always I never say no ever, I never
say no. Anyway. That's sidebar, just super quickly with Dion
(22:06):
Sanders in the scenario, what you're saying is so relevant, Q,
because Dion can take and make Dion has made his
narrative from day one, since he was a player until
present day now. And make make no mistake about it,
this is about Shador. This has become about Shador Sanders
(22:28):
the storyline. But Shador or excuse me, Deon Sanders would
be this advocate for any of his players. Just so
we're clear on that, if you're playing for Deon Sanders
and you're a part of his his team, he is
going to fiercely advocate for you as much as he's
doing for Shador Sanders. And that's interesting in itself because
(22:52):
we're not hearing this about Travis Hunter, and you're not
seeing a ton of interviews by Travis Hunter, and you're
not seeing anything really being said from Dion about Travis
Hunter because they've left. They're not messing with him. Nobody's
messing with him. They're choosing, like for somebody to come
out and say what they said about Shador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
You chose that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So let's not look at Shador like he's a problem
for addressing it. Let's not look at Dion like he's
a problem for addressing it. Y'all chose to put that
narrative out there on him. You just happen to do
it to somebody that's like a Manning Like, you know,
you don't want to mess with the Godfather. You mess
with Arch, you you got to come make an appearance.
(23:38):
You gotta kiss the ring. Deon Sanders is on that
same level. You mess with the Godfather, you gotta make
an appearance, you gotta kiss the ring. That's the type
of influence and power that Dion Sanders wilts wilts and
at the at the pro level, in the college or
in the football space, in the sports space, in the
media space.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
He's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He is everywhere, and he's respected and hated and most
likely I mean most people like him. That's the situation,
that's the position that they're in. And he don't have
a problem with with engaging, no problem. And that could
be a problem for Shador Sanders because these teams may
not want to they may not want to have that smoke.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Last time, there was something similar to this with a
questions about whether or not you want to remember LeVar Ball,
like as oh, do you really want to have to
deal with him? It's like, man, like that's it's even
different from that. But but the point is, like, these
kids aren't getting in trouble.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know, he's a good dad man. Yeah, he's a
good dad. He might be considered to be able the top,
but he's a brander.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, And it said that you don't hear his stuff
about oh he's a terrible father, he's this and that,
like I have no I.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Mean, Lamello grabs some sunglasses. Yeah, and he's a gangster
rapper now apparently, but you know, but him there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's it's you know, inspirational stuff like that at least
to the quality lyrics he puts together. I just I look,
can I go? People are trying, People are trying to
find something wrong with every one of these prospects, as
opposed to like, hey, maybe he's just a really good
player who believes in his abilities. And if that's the case,
I don't know what separates that him from anybody else
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who's been a great player in the league.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Like it's just and he gets everybody wants a Barry Sanders.
Nobody wants a Dion Sanders. But yet you love watching
Dion Sanders just as much as you like watching Barry Sanders.
Like some guys are talkers, some guys aren't. Just different,
that's all.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I don't think there's a shot in hell he gets
past either the Giants at three or the Raiders at six.
Not a shot in hell. I don't know. I'm possible.
I'm willing to take bets here on the show, he
doesn't get past three or six, and all that doubt
that you're I'm not throwing any I hope, Dean, here's
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that doubt. It's two pros and a couple of Joe.
Here on sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas Knox
with you coming up next here, though, we do have
some ideas that are being thrown around in the NFL,
and one of them's dumb.
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We are going to hand out an award here on
the show. Clemson sold it, Man sold it. Yeah, not great.
That damn twelve five gets you every time heye sold it.
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That coach couldn't believe they won. If you guys are
a big fan of bad ideas, here's one. We were
talking yesterday about some of the rule proposals that are
going to be coming in next week that they're going
to be potentially voting on tush push, you know, playoff seating,
all that crap. Here's one I'd love to get Levar's
(27:09):
thoughts on this. The Detroit Lions have proposed removing the
automatic first down portion of defensive holding, stating that along
with the five yards, it's too punitive. So they want
to get rid of the automatic put that spot foul. Well,
just you know, hey, listen, he held that guy. Hey,
(27:30):
it's five yard penalty. We'll redo the down. So basically,
if you get beaten coverage, just grab your guy, because
take the five yards. It's better than giving up a
big play. Well, you can call holding on every play
on anybody. So I'll say this if it's not I
don't think it's a horrible thought. I don't think it's
(27:53):
a horrible thought. Kill out for the defender.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, but that pass interference is a beat out for
the offense. Right, throw the ball up. They're going to
be hand checking, they're going to be hand wrestling, fighting
for a position.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That's true. But we're not trying to change p I Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh, I'm just saying if you if you get a holding,
I mean, is a holding a spot foul?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What is it? Defensive hold? Five yard penalty in first down? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Why should it be a first down foul? Why should
it be automatic first down?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Just get five yards because otherwise, for this reason, one
minute left in the game, and you're essentially allowing every
single player on defense to hold the entire two minute
drive and they get penalty after penalty after penalty after
penalty because the clock's gonna keep running down.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That's why.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well, first it's a first down, like, just give them
a first down then, don't don't Why five yards?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's that's what the rule is. It's a first down
in automatic five yards? Otherwise what would you do just
keep spotting the ball in the same spot.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Well, you're giving them ten yards you're giving or wherever
they're at, you're giving them a first down.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So if it's if it's third and one, you're giving
them a first down.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Five yards in a first down.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Now you just give them you just move it to
where the first down sticks are and give them a
first down.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What I like?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You know, if it's first in ten, Okay, okay, let's
play out the scenarios.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
If it's first and ten, you.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Start a two minute drive with one minute left, If
you go to throw a pass and there's defensive holding, okay, great,
it's first down and ten again, they get them five yards.
So you started the twenty twenty five, Let's say you
moved up five yards, all right, took seven seconds off
the clock. We do it again, take another seven seconds
off the clock. Still first and ten, Still get a
defensive holding. It's another first and ten. You can see
(29:40):
how this would happen. And if you actually play that
scenario out, then you held on every single play, you
would be able to run out the clock defensively before
the offense could actually ever have a meaningful play.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But I mean, doesn't that still happen even under the rule.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
How do they get five yards an automatic first down?
And then they try, you know, figure outo the way
of getting down there is in fact, no one's gonna
do it multiple times in the road.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
If it's if it's first and ten and you get
a five yard penalty and it's first down, is it
five yards after the first down? Or is it five yards?
Like you move the ball five yards, You didn't go
ten yards. You went five yards, and it's a first down.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You move the ball five yards, but it'd be first.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And ten, So it's not it's not the I understand that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But what I'm saying is it doesn't give you the
ten yards, it gives you five yards and a first down.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Again.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, so you didn't get the ten, you got the five.
So if you did it, if you if you were
doing holding to run the clock out, that getting that
five yards isn't going to keep you from that's not
going to you know, that's you're You're going to get
the same results, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
But if it was fourth and ten game on the line,
and you just tell you that's different, Yeah, that's different.
But that's the that's the problem though, that that is
a possibility or a third and ten and in a
potential punt situation, now you would just hold the guy.
Hey I got beat, I'll just grab him. It's five
yards and they'll just redo the down, as opposed to
you know, you get you get punished, shut the downs.
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I'm just tired of it.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's it's more of you know, I just think you
guys are so pro offense that you guys don't want
to see it as as.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
A potential problem for defenders because.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Everything is so pro offense anyway, So of course you
guys are going to come up with arguments that you
guys believe are valid for the offense. Which is fine,
Which is fine. Your quarterback, you're gonna you are going
to be biased towards the defense. Jonas, you're sissy, You're
going to be biased. So why are you so raged?
(31:43):
It's fine, I try to make.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Racist.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I'm trying to make the case as to why quarterbacks
shouldn't get as much protection as they do. It's it's
they've they've swerved too far in the one direction, all right.
And I think if there should be something that contemplate,
it shouldn't be defensive holding. It should be past interference.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They right, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Now it's a spot foul, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
But and I go back and forth with this because
for the same reason, like you would have a defense
that would PI the entire game or in particular, you know,
on a bunch of other plays if they could, because
they could end a scenario like Jonas laid out. So
that's the hard part is how do you go about regulating,
you know, teams doing things to utilize the rules in
(32:30):
their favor.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I just you know, anything that goes against the defense,
I'm going to argue in favor of it, because we.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Just don't get very much. We're we're the bad guys.
I like it.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
We're the villains, the offensive people. They're they're the heroes.
Like you know, it's fine, it's fine, you know. And
and Detroit, keep keep doing you. I like that, Like
fight for it, see if you can get it done?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Give something to the defense. When's the last time you've
seen the defense get something in their favor?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
When's the last time we got a rule or rule
change that favors the defense.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We didn't see a lot of their defense in that
game against the Commanders. We know that they got ripped
in half national television. I do what ask this? So
you said, Cissy, I would like to so you said,
it's okay. Are we allowed to use the word cissy? No,
(33:37):
the one that we would have used commercial? But I
wish why not? But what if I sign, if I
signed some paperwork, kat, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
If I signed something and say I'm okay with it, yes,
would we be able to use it then? Though, because
the use of that word in a moment like that,
Oh would have been amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It would have been amazing, and it would have been
widely accepted, lauded, celebrated, and laughed at on plenty of
playgrounds around any elementary middle school and need I say high.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
School as well in the eighties, do we know like
the dues and notes of what you can and can't say?
And save harbor? And does that word? Is that word
at any point during the network? Okay to say, I'm
gonna just lean towards now. Okay, what if we all
sign an agreement that we have the right to call
each other that and nobody goes.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
To management, which would be interesting because we should be
able to call each other that if we're okay with it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But this wouldn't happen though. All right, let's all say
it on three? You ready?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
One?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Two? Why do you stop at one?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And that was what I'm thinking about for.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That one too? All set up for that was way
better than with all different places that is Ah, it's
a real shame, man. And by the way, you're listening
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not a home run, but still they ruled it a
home run. So that was nice. It's nice to, uh,
to know that, you know, major League Baseball dating on you.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
If you're not letting the players juice, you're not juicing
the bay baseballs or corking the bats, we'll take other
other ways of getting so.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
All right, So wall scrapers are now considered home runs
in the non PD era. Okay, hell yeah, all right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
You bring back the PD the ped era. We're blasted
baseballs through the roof.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Oh did you see? Uh there was a guy in
college who hit an opposite field home run yesterday that
was five hundred and seventeen feet. Like, I don't know,
those illuminum bats should be illegal, Like like maybe that's
maybe you give that as an option. One time a
game in Major League Baseball. One time a game. You
(37:57):
can use an aluminum bat and just see what happened.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I don't think it's safe.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
You killed third base.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah yeah, if you hit that hit the pitcher, he's
out of here. There is something like that, Randy Johnson
hitting with that hit that ball.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Like, would you go to the Spikes games? Like would
you go to our Spike Penn State baseball games? The
minor league team used to the bing bing like you
every you're duck because you don't know whether or not
that's coming back at you. Yeah, and that's why you
need Rodney Pete and the crowd with the glove that
they handed out. Why did dude get upset though? Like
(38:33):
because he thought he could.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Rodney didn't steal the ball from him, his ball, His
hand was in a different space than the outfielder.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Brady, did you know that? So Rodney was on because
he made that catch and it went viral and all that,
and everyone's like, man, why would he have a glove
at the game. Apparently at the Tokyo Dome they don't
have the same netting we do out here in the States.
So anybody sitting down the first and third base line
in the first couple of rows everybody gets a glove
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and a bat to protect themselves during the game. Wait
wait wait wait wait end up?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
End up?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Sorry, and and a helmet to protect themselves.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I'm about to say, what you swing in the bat,
you're going to hit somebody upside That better?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I mean, I personally love this, by the way.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I mean, one the fans who buy those tickets, if
they get that from the stadium, that's incredible, Like you
get like a souvenir to take home. But also it
makes them accountable, makes them or maybe responsible for paying
attention and then be able to make a catch to
save their face.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's awesome. Yeah, so that's the apparently that's how they
do things over there.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Take down the nets, man like, make these make these
people have to actually watch baseball.
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
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Speaker 3 (01:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:24):
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guys are letting your eyes see.
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Speaker 1 (01:35):
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guys anything percent get it. I never sends you guys
anything else.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I was anyway, my kids, my kids grab my phone
to look at stuff, and they're gonna be like, dad,
what is that like? Oh sorry, it's a it's a
fitness said this, I'm gonna throw you under the bus.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Everything, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Why why would why would do that?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
This time? I said that. I don't think this time.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
What I think?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
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we're going.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's a blippy video. I understand what what king I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Jonahs said to send it, so I sent it like,
it's not wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just look at it. Just partake.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's a muscle, it's it's it's a it's a what's
that called a byset?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah? You know inclined flies? Pressure to me, Yeah, it is.
It's a I yeah, yeah, I love script. You looked
at it, Yeah, I looked at it. Do you go no,
it wasn't nothing crazy, right, decline press you know you
know it wasn't nothing that bad.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
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should be. So Yesterday was Colorado's pro Day. Of course,
the big conversation around Colorado is Shador Sanders, his draft stock,
where he ends up going in the draft. Shador spoke
on the NFL Network about his sort of the perception
(03:33):
around him, some of the storylines that have been about
him leading up to the draft. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
We always understood to block out the noise, even from Jacksons,
State and Colorado.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's a lot of critics.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
It's a lot of hate, but.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We know what to do. We know how to handle
that in every way, so we remain happy. So he
apparently just focused on the task at hand. His dad, Dion, though,
spoke about the situation and although he wouldn't call out
anybody by name, he's aware that there is somebody who's
out to get his son. We like to call this
stuff out. Is you gonna make me call him out?
(04:07):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Team?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah? Yea, we don't.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
We don't get to understand it, I know, but don't
make me pull behind the courage to step in that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We keep it on the high road.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'm kind of cars to be honest people.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
From the high road.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
But I don't know to Andress.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I don't know that address to the high road. So
what's the There's not a shot in hell that Shor
Sanders falls out of the top five. In my mind,
it's impossible.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well it's it's possible.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, I mean it's possible.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
It's not that it's possible. Anything's possible. It's the NFL Draft.
But does you fall to top ten? Probably not, you know,
or maybe I'll just sit it's possible.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, tope, I'll get you top fifteen, top fifteen, I
get you top fifteen to think he would can I.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Ask you guys this though, like outside of the d
on Chadure, this conversation around like the hate or whatever else,
like what's the buzzer on the draft? It's the least
interesting draft in a long time, long time, I mean,
and in all seriousness, like I asked that question because
I can't think of another draft where you're like, man,
(05:18):
I mean, Travis Hunters an incredible talent, and we're not
really talking about him.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
They didn't jump behind that. Yeah, they didn't get that.
They didn't attach the horse.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
No, and and you could go talk about Abdul.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
But liken't they haven't attached a horse.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
This is this is really dominated the headlines, like the
cam Ward or Shadoor sanders. But in most cases people
are like, all right, I think the consensus is cam war,
but it's like okay, then there's.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Just like hate towards Shador. I think some of this
stuff is fabricated, honestly.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, And actually I'll make the case that almost all
of it is. Because every time of year, like we
get to this point, there has to be someone who's
dropping in the draft.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Every year, someone's falling.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Everybody's rising and everywhere yeah or or something like that,
like or someone's just kind of staying, you know, put
where they're at.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I look at it and say, what most people don't
realize is a lot of the fluff bs that goes
on around the draft, around these topics and conversations are
done by the agents and the teams, and they do
them because if it's a competing agent, they're trying to
try to try to prop up their guy, at least
in public perception. Because the teams think what they want
(06:34):
and these these the agents don't. They're not gonna persuade
them one way or another. They have their process of
looking at it, and ultimately, in most organizations, whether it's
the owner, general manager, head coach, whoever, is the ultimate
decision maker.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
He's got his mind made up and he's sure.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
As hell not talking to anyone in the media about it,
and he's sure as hell not talking to an agent
about it. So that that decision, if they're taking a quarterback,
especially taking.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
A quarterback, has probably.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Already been made or they have a really good idea
of who it's going to be, and it's not going
to change and it's not gonna get out. So all
this stuff we keep reading and hearing, to me, it's
all fluff, it's all dramas, all bs because it's either
an agent who's trying to, you know, take shots at
Shador Sanders so it makes his guy look better, maybe
(07:23):
a team saying we can pass on Shador and get
a quarterback in another round, or it's a team it's
some guy who's like kind of knows the plants, like, well,
you know, maybe they wanted to follow him, you know,
maybe the Jets wanted to follow him at seven. And
so there's people who want to bad mouth and right
because remember the whole comment about well there was a
quarterback coach from a team at the top seven who
said he didn't have a Really it's like, well why
(07:44):
top seven?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Why not just top ten?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
But why would Dion let me ask you this, if
it's fabricated, why would Dion say he knows the name
of the person doing the talking.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Because he might make it be an agent.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Because to me, the way we've experienced with the guys
like David Mulligetta, we've experienced that where they go on
these campaigns and try to protect their client, or the
perceived protecting of their client because they're so scared or
so concerned about losing out it. Like we've seen guys
who this happens with, and they'll they'll try to deny it,
but like all these insiders will tell you, they won't
say they won't say it on air because they don't
(08:20):
want to hurt that relationship. And there's so many politics
behind the scenes that go on with this stuff. So
I'm sure Dian has a good idea of who said
what or who's saying what.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I can I knowing him if he said I know
who it is, you want me to call it like,
I'm I won't call his name out. My take on
it is it just further perpetuates the narrative when when
Prime does that, which they don't care. They don't care
if it perpetuates the narrative of the pressure that will
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come with drafting Shador Sanders. They don't want the Sanders family,
they don't like they're going to be who they're going
to be. They're going to handle things the way they're
going to handle them, and for for Schador to feel
as though he's being unfairly unjustly criticized, scrutinized, whatever it is,
hated on. He's basically telling y'all, look, I'm I don't
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I don't pay attention to it. I'm focused. I've had
to deal with it all along. I'm good with it.
I think where the whole issue of all of this
turns into like a bigger deal as it applies to
Shador Sanders, is the influence of Dion Sanders. It has
to it has to be that you're going into a
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situation where if things do not go the way that
they are supposed to go with Shador Sanders, whether it's
getting him on the field, Imagine Shadoor Sanders goes to
a team and doesn't win the starting job. What pressure
are you going to feel? Deon or Shador Sanders goes
to the team and he's not very good?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
What pressure are you going to feel? And how do
you get through it? How do you get through it?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The difference between a David Mulgato or any other of
these agents out here or any other you know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Prospects out here, they do.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Not have one of the most influential figures in all
of sports as a father and by the way, an
involved dad like he'll tell you I'm his dad. He
does not play around with the idea of being a
protector of his kids. I'm their dad. This is a
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compromising position. No matter how you look at it, you
are putting yourself in a compromised position if you take Shador,
say unless unless there is a relationship of trust and
respect between Dion Sanders and people within the organization of
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which Shador gets drafted. If there's not that relationship, you're
in You're you're at risk.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So do you think, say, for example, the Giants at three,
do you think there would be hesitation to take him
if he doesn't get an opportunity to play right away,
because the thought would be, well, Dion can come take
my job, and they would want to pair these guys up.
Do you think there's I don't think that's the hesitation.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I think the hesitation in New York is more of
they feel like they're in a spot where they have
to win right now. They did a veteran and it's
not so much they're like worried about Deonta.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It doesn't matter. They're not gonna have a job if
they don't win games.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
So it's not about like, oh, we are old take
and if things don't go, we're gonna get fired. Like,
it doesn't matter who they take if it doesn't go
while they're fired. So I think the concern there is
more like, do you want to go the potentially through
the growing pains in having a rookie quarterback and you know,
not win as many games or not be as competitive
as you ultimately could be with a veteran.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think that's what's potentially at stake.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
It's amplified so much more if it's Shador Sanders, Like.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The whole idea of him dropping, like because the only
thing that we've heard is well he would drop because well,
he came across as arrogant, he came up. That's not
that's I can understand. Listen, there was concerns about Jalen
Carter because of the accident and all that that happened.
I could kind of understand that Laramie Tunseel smoking weed
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out of a gas mask and it being like I
could kind of.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Drop, And that's that's age old. Like you said, there's
an age old storyline play out.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
So he's over confident. Man. We heard the same thing
about Caleb Williams. We've heard the same thing about so
many other people in the draft. The idea that.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
You do not drop for being over he's too jacked up,
or he's got.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
To like look at how yoked he is, Like he
doesn't even look like a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, I mean he drinks Mayonna's with his coffee and
there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It's like, it's silly, Like I agree with that. That
stuff is met, that is manufacturing. That guy's to his girlfriend's.
His girlfriend's so hot, it's gonna be a distraction. It's like, okay,
and that's crazy because that has been a part of it.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Hey, that guy is too confident for what he does
for a living. Boy, God forbid. We interviewed his mom.
His mom didn't pass the test. We interviewed his mom.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
This mom passed the test, maybe too much, maybe she
was she wants to be on the team.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I agree with that. I agree with that sentiment. But
the one thing that differentiates this one from the others
is that you're, hey, you know, it turned out to
be a couple of times. Man, didn't I play out
in Arizona anyway anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
So.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I'm just saying this is a different scenario. What is wrong.
I just think that that's a lot like. So you
take New York, for for instance, and you make them,
make them the example, make Shador Sanders, and you are
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now in a scenario unless you have a relationship with
Dion Sanders and Dion No, if you don't think for
two seconds that Dion Sanders is gonna want to know
the plan for Shador Sanders because Dion is still going
to make sure that he's ultimately orchestrating Shador's success. Now,
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Shador ultimately has to go out there and do what
he has done, which is he.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Has to deliver on the field. So make no mistake
about this.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
This ain't no daddy's little boy type deal where Shador
can't hoop or can't play ball and Daddy is the
reason why he's hyped up. Like no, Shador is a player.
He plays ball like he can stand on his own.
But I don't I don't. I don't think people understand
the level of of of what Dion Sanders feels for
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his kids in terms of the amount of love that
goes into what their what their achievements are going to be.
He is super involved, super involved, So they're going to
have to explain to him what this plan is every
like that's going to be You gotta believe that this
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is going to be problematic for any franchise unless there's
a personal relation, And even if there's a personal relationship,
it still might end up being problem problematic.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
But that's that's what I was gonna ask. Do you
think that Dion's been in these discussions, if there's been
discussions had with teams talking to Shade or talking like,
do you think he's been brought in? Because if so,
I don't see a problem with that, Like, if he's
involved and he's been there every step of the way,
like like, don't you have some problem that's don't you
for any other prospect you're gonna take like there was
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stuff out that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Well, you're going to talk to their coaches they are,
so say you're going to talk to the coach about
who they are.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
But what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
To you is is if he's involvement is different than
interviewing about the character or about the skill sets, what
does this guy mean to you? Like in that regard,
that's very different than your child. This is my child.
I want to plan for my child.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I think one of the things I've noticed about coach
Prime of the course of his transition from Jackson State
to Colorado is he seems very concerned and aware of
the narratives and aware of what the conversation is.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Even if it comes his way, right, because he popped
off one writer before, right, like, you can't even come
around here anymore, right.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
And I think there's a reason for this, you know,
when you have the perspective of a player and then
you're talking about young people, and then you're talking about
in this case, his son, I think one of the things.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And maybe this's just.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Coming off as more of a father too, so you
guys can relate to this, and our listeners can maybe
relate to this. But like, one of the things I
think you grow concerned by when I look back at
like my career when things went south for me, is
like is when you lose confidence and you start putting
your weight in what other people think or say. And
I think that's one thing that he's done an unbelievable
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job of of not allowing whatever some of the naysayers
or narratives are that are out there to impact Shador,
to impact many of the young men he coaches and mentors.
And I think he's still protective of it even though
he's you know, not their coach, he's their dad, and
he's still aware and protective of it because that's that
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comes along with you, like you know, we can say
whatever we want, Like you mentioned about Jalen Carter and
now looking back after his rookie season, you're like, my god,
he might have been the best rookie right, Like he
was phenomenal this year. But at some point, if some
other altercation or off the field thing happens, what they
gonna bring up. They're gonna say, well, yeah, he had
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some issues too when he's at Georgia, or yeah he
has like they're gonna bring up past events and and
if anything, whatever happened with Shador, the narrative in the
media is gonna be like, well, do you remember the
combine he had a bad interview and you remember.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Like like that's that's how this all works. And so
I think he's super aware of.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
How those narratives can kind of stick with guys and
stick with players, whether.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
They're true or not.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
They do right, that's the truth.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Absolutely they do well.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And well here's the reality is everyone can be victim
of that.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
To certain a certain I'm not a victim of it,
but you know the narrative, stay with me, yea exactly
And and and here's the thing is he knows that
because he experienced it firsthand as a player as great
as he was, a Hall of Famer at every flip
and level, he he still knows that. Like there's probably
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things that people said about him that he was like,
this was never true, but people said it, so other
people believed it and it got out there. And here's
the thing is in today's society, today's world, and we've
seen this and I'm not trying to get off into
a certain tangent, but more often than not, people have
to prove their innocence instead of proved their guilt. And
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so it's become now we're like if someone says something,
then it's like, well it must be true because someone
said something on social media or someone said something come
out of the combine, so it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Must be true.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And it's like, well, dude, now we have to go
on a campaign to defend something and waste energy on
something that isn't it really true or maybe it was
just a bad moment for someone or an awkward run
in Like not to sound weird, but like I was
coming out of a dental appointment yesterday. Some guys stopped
his car in the middle of traffic to like say
hello and say you know, He's like, I got my
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jersey from my son all stuff, and I was like
talking to him, and meanwhile, there's like some cars started
to line up because he's blocking traffic, and one of
the guys behind him is like, hey, cross the road,
get out of the way. He's like yelling at me,
and I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to talk
to this dude. That guy probably thinks I'm an asshole now, right,
because I was like, buddy, just relaxed for a second.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
It's always you signed two hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
But but you.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Get my point.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It's like, it only takes in this society, it only
takes one person.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
No, I'm just it only takes now more than ever
one person.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
No, you're like.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Change all of that, right, You're right, b Also, I
thought I was gonna have a list this morning.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I'm not sure if I sound like I have one
or not.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
After Yes, I heard it loud clear, Yeah, yeah, got
a list A little bit. No, you didn't list, but
you shout it out there loud and clear.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I was like, hey, hey Poal, listen up over hair.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You let this guy in here talk with me for
a walk. You got that invisive line.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
No, My whole the whole side of my face was hey,
pet Pole, lift it up over her.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
You get me a game. You definitely give me a game.
And I'll say this. I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's that one hundred and one person's audi you don't
sign that makes you that a hole, right, that's the
one hundred and first person that thinks you are the
worst person in the world and will tell people how
much of a d bag you are because you didn't
sign one hundred and one you know, autograph, that's one thing,
but gotten one hundred and one autograph before you know
what I'm saying, Oh, bro, I've signed.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I signed.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I signed until I'm done because I've been told When
I was a kid, I was told no by a
guy that was like my biggest hero. And it was
a high school guy. It's a high school basketball player.
I ran off on my dad. You know, my dad
ain't got no feet. I ran off while you got
prosthetic gloves. I just ran off on my dad. My
dad can't keep up. I didn't ran up the bleachers
to go get the autograph from this dude's basketball player
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A big fan of asking for the autograph.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
He was like, later, kid, I'm watching the game. Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
My dad was like, hey, come on, you can't sign
him take a picture to sign an autograph. When he's like,
I'm just I'm focused right now, I said, don't worry
about it, Dad. I said, if I ever make it
in life, I'll never be like him and walked away.
So I always I never say no ever, I never
say no. Anyway. That's sidebar, just super quickly with Dion
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Sanders in the scenario, what you're saying is so relevant, Q,
because Dion can take and make Dion has made his
narrative from day one, since he was a player until
present day now. And make make no mistake about it,
this is about Shador. This has become about Shador Sanders
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the storyline. But Shador or excuse me, Deon Sanders would
be this advocate for any of his players. Just so
we're clear on that, if you're playing for Deon Sanders
and you're a part of his his team, he is
going to fiercely advocate for you as much as he's
doing for Shador Sanders. And that's interesting in itself because
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we're not hearing this about Travis Hunter, and you're not
seeing a ton of interviews by Travis Hunter, and you're
not seeing anything really being said from Dion about Travis
Hunter because they've left. They're not messing with him. Nobody's
messing with him. They're choosing, like for somebody to come
out and say what they said about Shador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
You chose that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So let's not look at Shador like he's a problem
for addressing it. Let's not look at Dion like he's
a problem for addressing it. Y'all chose to put that
narrative out there on him. You just happen to do
it to somebody that's like a Manning Like, you know,
you don't want to mess with the Godfather. You mess
with Arch, you you got to come make an appearance.
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You gotta kiss the ring. Deon Sanders is on that
same level. You mess with the Godfather, you gotta make
an appearance, you gotta kiss the ring. That's the type
of influence and power that Dion Sanders wilts wilts and
at the at the pro level, in the college or
in the football space, in the sports space, in the
media space.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
He's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He is everywhere, and he's respected and hated and most
likely I mean most people like him. That's the situation,
that's the position that they're in. And he don't have
a problem with with engaging, no problem. And that could
be a problem for Shador Sanders because these teams may
not want to they may not want to have that smoke.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Last time, there was something similar to this with a
questions about whether or not you want to remember LeVar Ball,
like as oh, do you really want to have to
deal with him? It's like, man, like that's it's even
different from that. But but the point is, like, these
kids aren't getting in trouble.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
You know, he's a good dad man. Yeah, he's a
good dad. He might be considered to be able the top,
but he's a brander.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, And it said that you don't hear his stuff
about oh he's a terrible father, he's this and that,
like I have no I.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Mean, Lamello grabs some sunglasses. Yeah, and he's a gangster
rapper now apparently, but you know, but him there you go.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's it's you know, inspirational stuff like that at least
to the quality lyrics he puts together. I just I look,
can I go? People are trying, People are trying to
find something wrong with every one of these prospects, as
opposed to like, hey, maybe he's just a really good
player who believes in his abilities. And if that's the case,
I don't know what separates that him from anybody else
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who's been a great player in the league.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Like it's just and he gets everybody wants a Barry Sanders.
Nobody wants a Dion Sanders. But yet you love watching
Dion Sanders just as much as you like watching Barry Sanders.
Like some guys are talkers, some guys aren't. Just different,
that's all.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I don't think there's a shot in hell he gets
past either the Giants at three or the Raiders at six.
Not a shot in hell. I don't know. I'm possible.
I'm willing to take bets here on the show, he
doesn't get past three or six, and all that doubt
that you're I'm not throwing any I hope, Dean, here's
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that doubt. It's two pros and a couple of Joe.
Here on sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas Knox
with you coming up next here, though, we do have
some ideas that are being thrown around in the NFL,
and one of them's dumb.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
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Speaker 2 (26:25):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here, coming
up a little over. We'll call it about ten minutes
from now here from the tire rack dot Com studios.
We are going to hand out an award here on
the show. Clemson sold it, Man sold it. Yeah, not great.
That damn twelve five gets you every time heye sold it.
(26:48):
That coach couldn't believe they won. If you guys are
a big fan of bad ideas, here's one. We were
talking yesterday about some of the rule proposals that are
going to be coming in next week that they're going
to be potentially voting on tush push, you know, playoff seating,
all that crap. Here's one I'd love to get Levar's
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thoughts on this. The Detroit Lions have proposed removing the
automatic first down portion of defensive holding, stating that along
with the five yards, it's too punitive. So they want
to get rid of the automatic put that spot foul. Well,
just you know, hey, listen, he held that guy. Hey,
(27:30):
it's five yard penalty. We'll redo the down. So basically,
if you get beaten coverage, just grab your guy, because
take the five yards. It's better than giving up a
big play. Well, you can call holding on every play
on anybody. So I'll say this if it's not I
don't think it's a horrible thought. I don't think it's
(27:53):
a horrible thought. Kill out for the defender.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, but that pass interference is a beat out for
the offense. Right, throw the ball up. They're going to
be hand checking, they're going to be hand wrestling, fighting
for a position.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
That's true. But we're not trying to change p I Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Oh, I'm just saying if you if you get a holding,
I mean, is a holding a spot foul?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
What is it? Defensive hold? Five yard penalty in first down? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Why should it be a first down foul? Why should
it be automatic first down?
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Just get five yards because otherwise, for this reason, one
minute left in the game, and you're essentially allowing every
single player on defense to hold the entire two minute
drive and they get penalty after penalty after penalty after
penalty because the clock's gonna keep running down.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That's why.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well, first it's a first down, like, just give them
a first down then, don't don't Why five yards?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's that's what the rule is. It's a first down
in automatic five yards? Otherwise what would you do just
keep spotting the ball in the same spot.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Well, you're giving them ten yards you're giving or wherever
they're at, you're giving them a first down.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So if it's if it's third and one, you're giving
them a first down.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Five yards in a first down.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Now you just give them you just move it to
where the first down sticks are and give them a
first down.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What I like?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
You know, if it's first in ten, Okay, okay, let's
play out the scenarios.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
If it's first and ten, you.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Start a two minute drive with one minute left, If
you go to throw a pass and there's defensive holding, okay, great,
it's first down and ten again, they get them five yards.
So you started the twenty twenty five, Let's say you
moved up five yards, all right, took seven seconds off
the clock. We do it again, take another seven seconds
off the clock. Still first and ten, Still get a
defensive holding. It's another first and ten. You can see
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how this would happen. And if you actually play that
scenario out, then you held on every single play, you
would be able to run out the clock defensively before
the offense could actually ever have a meaningful play.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
But I mean, doesn't that still happen even under the rule.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
How do they get five yards an automatic first down?
And then they try, you know, figure outo the way
of getting down there is in fact, no one's gonna
do it multiple times in the road.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
If it's if it's first and ten and you get
a five yard penalty and it's first down, is it
five yards after the first down? Or is it five yards?
Like you move the ball five yards, You didn't go
ten yards. You went five yards, and it's a first down.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
You move the ball five yards, but it'd be first.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
And ten, So it's not it's not the I understand that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
But what I'm saying is it doesn't give you the
ten yards, it gives you five yards and a first down.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Again.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, so you didn't get the ten, you got the five.
So if you did it, if you if you were
doing holding to run the clock out, that getting that
five yards isn't going to keep you from that's not
going to you know, that's you're You're going to get
the same results, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
But if it was fourth and ten game on the line,
and you just tell you that's different, Yeah, that's different.
But that's the that's the problem though, that that is
a possibility or a third and ten and in a
potential punt situation, now you would just hold the guy.
Hey I got beat, I'll just grab him. It's five
yards and they'll just redo the down, as opposed to
you know, you get you get punished, shut the downs.
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I'm just tired of it.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's it's more of you know, I just think you
guys are so pro offense that you guys don't want
to see it as as.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
A potential problem for defenders because.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Everything is so pro offense anyway, So of course you
guys are going to come up with arguments that you
guys believe are valid for the offense. Which is fine,
Which is fine. Your quarterback, you're gonna you are going
to be biased towards the defense. Jonas, you're sissy, You're
going to be biased. So why are you so raged?
(31:43):
It's fine, I try to make.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Racist.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I'm trying to make the case as to why quarterbacks
shouldn't get as much protection as they do. It's it's
they've they've swerved too far in the one direction, all right.
And I think if there should be something that contemplate,
it shouldn't be defensive holding. It should be past interference.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
They right, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Now it's a spot foul, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
But and I go back and forth with this because
for the same reason, like you would have a defense
that would PI the entire game or in particular, you know,
on a bunch of other plays if they could, because
they could end a scenario like Jonas laid out. So
that's the hard part is how do you go about regulating,
you know, teams doing things to utilize the rules in
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their favor.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I just you know, anything that goes against the defense,
I'm going to argue in favor of it, because we.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Just don't get very much. We're we're the bad guys.
I like it.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
We're the villains, the offensive people. They're they're the heroes.
Like you know, it's fine, it's fine, you know. And
and Detroit, keep keep doing you. I like that, Like
fight for it, see if you can get it done?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Give something to the defense. When's the last time you've
seen the defense get something in their favor?
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
When's the last time we got a rule or rule
change that favors the defense.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
We didn't see a lot of their defense in that
game against the Commanders. We know that they got ripped
in half national television. I do what ask this? So
you said, Cissy, I would like to so you said,
it's okay. Are we allowed to use the word cissy? No,
(33:37):
the one that we would have used commercial? But I
wish why not? But what if I sign, if I
signed some paperwork, kat, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
If I signed something and say I'm okay with it, yes,
would we be able to use it then? Though, because
the use of that word in a moment like that,
Oh would have been amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It would have been amazing, and it would have been
widely accepted, lauded, celebrated, and laughed at on plenty of
playgrounds around any elementary middle school and need I say high.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
School as well in the eighties, do we know like
the dues and notes of what you can and can't say?
And save harbor? And does that word? Is that word
at any point during the network? Okay to say, I'm
gonna just lean towards now. Okay, what if we all
sign an agreement that we have the right to call
each other that and nobody goes.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
To management, which would be interesting because we should be
able to call each other that if we're okay with it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But this wouldn't happen though. All right, let's all say
it on three? You ready?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
One?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Two? Why do you stop at one?
Speaker 5 (34:56):
And that was what I'm thinking about for.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
That one too? All set up for that was way
better than with all different places that is Ah, it's
a real shame, man. And by the way, you're listening
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(36:20):
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Speaker 7 (36:25):
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Speaker 2 (36:32):
That's off the top of the wall.
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(37:09):
not a home run, but still they ruled it a
home run. So that was nice. It's nice to, uh,
to know that, you know, major League Baseball dating on you.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
If you're not letting the players juice, you're not juicing
the bay baseballs or corking the bats, we'll take other
other ways of getting so.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
All right, So wall scrapers are now considered home runs
in the non PD era. Okay, hell yeah, all right,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
You bring back the PD the ped era. We're blasted
baseballs through the roof.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Oh did you see? Uh there was a guy in
college who hit an opposite field home run yesterday that
was five hundred and seventeen feet. Like, I don't know,
those illuminum bats should be illegal, Like like maybe that's
maybe you give that as an option. One time a
game in Major League Baseball. One time a game. You
(37:57):
can use an aluminum bat and just see what happened.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I don't think it's safe.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
You killed third base.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah yeah, if you hit that hit the pitcher, he's
out of here. There is something like that, Randy Johnson
hitting with that hit that ball.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Like, would you go to the Spikes games? Like would
you go to our Spike Penn State baseball games? The
minor league team used to the bing bing like you
every you're duck because you don't know whether or not
that's coming back at you. Yeah, and that's why you
need Rodney Pete and the crowd with the glove that
they handed out. Why did dude get upset though? Like
(38:33):
because he thought he could.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Rodney didn't steal the ball from him, his ball, His
hand was in a different space than the outfielder.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Brady, did you know that? So Rodney was on because
he made that catch and it went viral and all that,
and everyone's like, man, why would he have a glove
at the game. Apparently at the Tokyo Dome they don't
have the same netting we do out here in the States.
So anybody sitting down the first and third base line
in the first couple of rows everybody gets a glove
(39:03):
and a bat to protect themselves during the game. Wait
wait wait wait wait end up?
Speaker 5 (39:08):
End up?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Sorry, and and a helmet to protect themselves.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I'm about to say, what you swing in the bat,
you're going to hit somebody upside That better?
Speaker 3 (39:16):
I mean, I personally love this, by the way.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I mean, one the fans who buy those tickets, if
they get that from the stadium, that's incredible, Like you
get like a souvenir to take home. But also it
makes them accountable, makes them or maybe responsible for paying
attention and then be able to make a catch to
save their face.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
It's awesome. Yeah, so that's the apparently that's how they
do things over there.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Take down the nets, man like, make these make these
people have to actually watch baseball.
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