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Which underdogs should you keep an eye on in the Tournament? Najee Harris airs frustrations with his time in Pittsburgh; are they valid or is it open season on the Steelers? Plus, Lee’s Leftovers.  

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Speaker 2 (00:33):
A spring nks for want and pump my fists. Man,
it's officially spring smell funnel cake walk a boardwalk. It's
been a while we have boardwalk fries, y'all. Don't have boardwalks,
y'all don't because I'm not from here. Yeah, there's not
bord are there boardwalks and there's pears, but there's not Yeah,

(00:57):
boardwalks not really, that's an East Coast thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can't recall seeing a boardwalk around here.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
How would you differentiate like a boardwalk from up here?
I don't know, like what you'd call it. In California.
I feel like there were boardwalks out there not like.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
In San Diego, I think they may have one, and
like San Francisco, I believe they have like a boardwalk.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Santa Cruz has a boardwalk. They've also got banana slot.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I mean, it's literally what the term is. There's there's
a whole bunch of boards, you know, and with stores
and arcades and rides and stuff like Santa Monica. Santa
Monica here is almost like a boardwalk, but it's definitely not,
because a boardwalk is like it has entry to streets,

(01:50):
goes all the way. Yeah, but it it goes for MOUs.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
So I'm seeing here some call the Venice beachwalk the boardwalk.
The venis boardwalk.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's not boards. That's a bum walk, is what that is?
Like that.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Him, get get those bumps punched out at those poor people.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You're shuck.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
Yeah, So I don't know the differences between the boardwalking
up here. Yeah, Well, if you've known the boardwalk, then
you know the difference. So you've never known a boardwalk.
Have you ever been on a boardwalk?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
You've been to Coney Island, You've been to you know,
wild Wood, you you know, you've ever been to Ocean City.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, oh, you've missed out. I mean, I will say.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Jonas doesn't get out much.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, lab.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Dog keeping the kennel, you know, team all caged up.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
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to point this out. The biggest underdog in the tournament
later today is Mount Saint Mary's plus thirty one and
a half against Duke in a forty minute game. Plus
thirty one and a half. So at the start of
the game you're up thirty one nothing. If you're Mount

(03:47):
Saint Mary's and you like that underdog, why would you
not at least just look at that and go that's
a lot of damn points. I know point Cooper Flag says, hey,
I'm paying free and he's gonna try and get back.
But that's a lot of points to me, why not?
Why not? Just look at Mount Saint Mary's there, They're

(04:08):
not gonna win a game, but just keep it within
thirty one points.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
So hold on, hold on, hold on? Is your segment
to bet on a dog, but not to win, but
to cover. I'm just because my my interpretation was we
were supposed to bet on a dog to win outright,
like that's where the money's at. Not Jonas's style where
he's afraid to pick a winner and live. He just
wants to pick someone to cover the spread. We're saying
a dog a dog right now to outright win. I'll

(04:36):
give you two. Give us two. Vanderbilt. I think they
take out Saint Mary's today. Vanderbilt is a good team.
The SEC has got a lot of teams in the tournament.
It's a tough conference this year. Vanderbuilt outright beat Saint Mary's.
They're getting four and a half. Depending on where you look,
I like get yeah, I like Vanderbilt to win out right.
There's another one that's a tighter spread eight nine seed.

(04:59):
I like Baylor Mississippi State.

Speaker 6 (05:02):
Neither one of those is gonna hit.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Okay, looking through, I'm sorry you're mumbling. What are you saying?

Speaker 6 (05:07):
Either one of those is gonna hit for sure? Based
on what you did.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yet, I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Morris. Now you
know I'm ahead of you Alabama? How about I'm ahead
of you? Right, Jo Jonas? You know you're still like
bringing up the rear?

Speaker 6 (05:20):
What else is new?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Points? I like Romo, like the colonials. Yet I just
brought them up the other week, so it might have
been like foreshadowing. I'll take they might, they might roll
on the tide. You know, I'll take my chances plus thirty.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
One and a half.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Why can't I give you another one? I should look
at who's this? Memphis is a two point underdog versus
call of out of State because Tyrese Hunter is questionable
for the game. I believe he's their guard, and that's
that's sending you some signals that he is probably not
gonna play. I still think Memphis is the better team

(05:58):
if they're getting to for is coloriad of State? I'm
glad they take those two points.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Well, you guys, don't have the guts to pick us
sixteen to h Robert.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Moore, not to cover, dude, pick one the outright win. Jonas,
give us, give us something, Jonas, I don't.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Need to do that. Plus and a half. Hey, I'll
go with.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We got plus.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Is it true that the team managed and a half?
Who are you looking at, Robert Morse?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Okay, oh, Bobby moll I didn't kid that close.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think that.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I mean, well, I've actually seen it at plus twenty
two and a half, so that means it's coming down
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Beyond the man Colonials play basketball lead?

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Did the the team manager from McNee state?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Did he?

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Uh? He got nil deals because he carried out some
boombox before before the game.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Yeah, he's the star of the tournament so far.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I'm your right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
The cheerleaders were wearing socks with his face on it,
and he's got T shirts. He's uh, he's already got
an nil deal, getting endorsement deals with Buffalo Wild Wings,
tickpic and Insomnia.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
What type of huh tippick?

Speaker 5 (07:15):
What tippick picks?

Speaker 6 (07:19):
Tick picks?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
You better say that's slower.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Hey, what he said sticks picks?

Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yeah, he's getting that I l deals from walking out
with a boom box.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Yeah, the boom box was sponsored by Buffalo Wild Wings
as h as the logo on it, by.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
The way, brilliant.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Well, it looks it looked like he, uh, he's got
free reigns to say every lyric to those songs. Oh really,
that's how it works, right, Nobody nobody appeared to have
a problem with that.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
But good forever.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
It looks like he doesn't say it. It looks like
he stops during those moments. Oh yeah, I mean from
what I what I saw.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, okay, I like to get Levar's thoughts on this.
I haven't looked.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
I've watched. I've watched a couple of videos, like there's
one going around now that's like the game was over
when Nickneice walked out and it just shows a video
of them coming out of their locker room with him
playing the boom box. I don't think he says every word.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't what was the song playing? Lee?

Speaker 4 (08:23):
Can you find out the songs they're playing during the
viral clip that was out.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
There, because Joan's clearly knows that that, uh, you know
that the word is in there? So what word are
you talking.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
About they all say it did they all say it
headed Yeah, so it seems pretty obvious there. I'm just
curious what the the NIL deals look like for him,
Like what's he get? Is he getting like a two
hundred dollars gift card from Buffalo Wild Wings? Is he
getting like a free bottle of mango Hobanaro sauce?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Like?

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Can I be honest? Some of these cats are just
happy to say they have an NIL deal to make
it look cool, like, yeah, I've got a stick on
the boom box from Buffalo Wild Wings, like they sent
me a boom box to carry out, But the reality
is they don't actually have much more than that. You know,
I'm saying, like it just it sounds cool and looks
cool to be a college kid that's not an athlete,

(09:21):
But to have an NIL deal, does that make sense?

Speaker 6 (09:23):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (09:24):
You have the details on the NIL Well no, I'm sorry,
I had the details on the song. Yeah, it's in
and out lud Foe l u d f Oe lud
Fox lud Fo, in and.

Speaker 6 (09:35):
Out in and out by ludfo All right, there you go.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
He definitely is not pausing, that's for certain. He ran
the red light there he's not pausing, and he's in
it like he feels it. But there's nothing wrong with that.
Why can't he do it? Hey? I no, pro can't
you do it?

Speaker 6 (09:53):
That's fine?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
She's a minority too. Why can't he do it? He's
on the leasone, the approved list. What you try to
make a beef? I don't understand.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
He's the approved Yeah, he's.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
On the approved list, reapproved.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
A little bit of the list.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
You are way off, Yeah, you're way off? You are?
You are so yeah, well that's not what you said
a super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
I mean you got a little upset about it.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
You are would be you guy? I know you know you.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Got a little upset about pigment.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh yeah, you are darker than that. You know. Then
people may be what what do I need to do
about that? You will never be approved? Why not? You
will know? Okay?

Speaker 6 (10:38):
What if I sat in the tanning bed for like
three weeks?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
It would never help you. At this point, he turned red. Yeah,
it would never help you, bro, You would burn immediately.
The lobsters can't say it. No, no, they cannot stop man. No,
Karen's either.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
All I wanted for Christmas, but.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Was on it though he definitely. He definitely was dry.
He had his foot to the gas on that on
that song, Kan Yeah, yeah around it ain't will let
it slide. I mean he's on the approved list, man.
You know they got a different day and it ends

(11:22):
with the same word. You gotta put another word in
front of it. You know, we'll keep that off. We'll
keep that. I'll tell you off air. Yeah, I texted.
I texted to you.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
It's leon that list he approved.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
No, okay, no, sorry, Lee, I can't approve it, like
you know, No, I just know.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
I'm just trying to help you all out.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
You know. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Some people get everything at iland.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
I just said, y'all what you know approved? That's why
from that one, that's why they're approved them.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Can we can we acknowledged, by the way, not that
transition away from what was just text, but can we
acknowledge that the matchup everyone was hoping for is going
to take place in the second round the John Caliperi Ricko, Hey, yeah,
you're doing squaring offers one another? Is there a live

(12:21):
line for that game yet, Jonas? Because I've got a
sneaky feeling it's gonna be a tight line and I
wouldn't be shocked if Arkansas was favored. All right, try
and guess the spread. I don't think it's more than
two and a half points give me. I mean again, just.

Speaker 6 (12:38):
Saint John's minus six and a half that many?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
God, I would take Arkansas. I mean, outside of being
a poorly coach in the sense of scheme, I think
that the more talented team.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
But now, do you don't want to take Arkansas because
they have a Jonas and a Knox on the roster.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
That actually is the reason why I'm rooting for Saint John's.
But I also just want Rick Patino to plan his
flag that he's the best Kentucky basketball coach of of
my time. That's what I'd like him to do.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I feel some Kentucky going, how how far you guys
have you got them in the final?

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I have them? Oh gosh, I think I did pick
Arkansas to beat him?

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Oh yeah, Caliari.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Here's the thing is, I don't. I just know they're
a more talented team, and I think Patino's a better coach.
But I think in this instance, your stars got to
show up, and if they do, I mean, I'll tell
you that's much I'll take the points gladly. Now I've
got Arkansas losing ultimate of Texas Tech. I think they're
more talented, But.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
I just love the Saint John's is good again.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
I love it too. Throwback does does Patino stay?

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Though?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Like?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Why is a blue blood like Ohio State who's got
so many resources or something? These other schools, why they
not go after them?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Some would say Saint John's is a blue blood basketball school.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah, I mean like your old school, like Big East. Yeah,
old school, Big East.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Saint John's is, like, that's a name that's mentioned amongst
the annals of definitely historical school.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
He's seventy two. How any more moves you got in them?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Dang, Well, that's what I'm saying. You probably got one.
But basketball, you can rebuild in a year. Doesn't take
a long time. That's what he's done. Yeah, it's not
a long time to build in basketball.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
And I I guess here's my perspective looking at it
is there is a group of haves and have nots,
and the haves are like all the spending that's done
in the SEC some collective. Other teams that are that
are bigger programs, right, bigger athletic programs that have bigger budgets.
And then there's like a select few of schools that
like don't have a football program, and so men's basketball

(14:53):
is you know, they're they're you know, that's everything to them.
That's you know, you could put Xavier right, Exaviers in
that category, Marquettes in that category. There's a number of
schools that if they don't have a big time college
football program, you're they're gonna lean heavily on basketball.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
So that's where you kind of look at it and say,
like Saint John's falls in that category. And I can
understand why while people would say, oh, that's a that's
a big job or that's you know, that is a
that is a big you know, blue blood, but not
in the sense of having the resources that I'm talking
about right, Like the resources there are not the same
that they're gonna have at you know, Auburn or some

(15:33):
of these other SEC schools, you know, or Ohio State
for example, and as far as what they're gonna spend
on the roster too.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
We just have an earthquake, man, I felt something just shook.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
I didn't feel it, but I'm always you know, shaking.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Don't worry I've got the earthquake app Let me go
ahead and check this out right now. I'll get back
to you guys.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
On that are we Are we underneath something?

Speaker 5 (15:57):
You know, it's one of those buildings where sometimes it's
a big truck is coming through, or like a certain
part of the building. Didn't it kind of shakes?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I know, that was like a boom like that was
like a I don't know, I felt it too. That's interesting.
I might get up out of here, y'all. I might
catch y'all. I have to check y'all's final well. You know,
you know, brothers know when to get up out, you
know what I mean. I don't that that felt a

(16:25):
little weird.

Speaker 6 (16:26):
There have been a lot of earthquakes here lately, which
is good news, by the way, because it relieves the
pressure everyone's waiting for the big one. You get a
bunch of four point two's mixed in, you know, maybe
you're not going to get that ten point eight that
everyone's uh doom and glooming.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
That's going to break break California off. Yeah, just thinking
going separate California.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
Just for the record, though, if if there is an earthquake,
I'm staying on the air you know, some people are
built different.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, I was about to get up out of here. Man,
I'm still thinking about it. Like I felt that, I
kind of felt it, and I kind of heard it.
There was.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Jaska, What what's that?

Speaker 4 (17:03):
Where are you gonna go? John's back to your coffin.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
You know, he's gonna fly away to a to a
safer place, Like, what are you gonna do? He's got it,
he's got an advantage. He's got a clear advantage. He
can turn it to a bat damn. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
The most recent what I'm seeing was in Greece, So
you think we felt that here? Just it was a
one point too.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think it was Lee. I think let one Go
is called an earth quake. You know, the quake could
have shook us here. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Hey, I just felt something, That's all i'm gonna say.
And I felt like it was above me. I don't know,
it's it's kind of weird, but I felt it, all right.
Maybe it was them next door, what they got going on.
I mean, I don't know two pros. And it was
that dude in the bushes the other the other week.
You know, maybe it was them. Maybe, you know, they

(18:00):
get real strong when you hit that pipe, Yeah, you
get a little bit extra strange. You might hit the wall.
You know, we might have felt it. That's Jim equipment.
They get speed too.

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Nause Harris is now a brand new member of the
LA Chargers. He signed a one year deal worth nine

(19:09):
point five million dollars. He loves leaves Pittsburgh, who he
started his career with. So far, he has pointed out
how the Chargers weight room is very nice, that it's
not like that everywhere with some people thought, all right,
is he taking a dig at the Pittsburgh Steelers. Probably,
And then he spoke with k Cal yesterday about his

(19:31):
experience in Pittsburgh, and it sounded like es.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
It was just a team where, you know, we lost Ben,
we lost out of the O line. We just didn't
know anything on offense. Really, we didn't have idea. We
had a young guy come that quarterback. You know, I
was young, the team was young, and I really didn't
have nobody to almost learn from the offensive side. I
think the veteran guy on that team was like a
two three year vet and that's thing, you know what

(19:55):
I mean, Like he still learned himself. And I'm coming
in and you know, I'm just look for people to
you know, pick their brain off of. And it was
just defensive guys. So I'll go to the defensive guy
to talk to them. But you know it wouldn't be
too much. They could tell me about the offensive thing,
you know what I mean? So who was interesting years there?
I'll just say that.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
So Najia Harris looking back fondly on his time in
Pittsburgh there sounds like, you know, yeah, does it feel
like there's more people that are willing to be critical
lately of the Steelers and where they're at and how
things are around there than maybe before.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Definitely seems like yeah, I mean, it just seems like
it's just you know, who was it saying. Was it
Ben Roethlisberger who was saying that the cultures was slowly
being lost once Mike Tomlin took over? I think it
was I want to say it was Ben Roethlisberger or
someone said that at some point the culture in the

(20:54):
locker room was gone, like the Steeler culture was gone.
Now I've asked play about this, and I'll probably ask
them again tomorrow, but there's clearly been a disconnect from
what the Pittsburgh Steelers have have been and what they've
represented culturally speaking to where they are now. So, you know,

(21:20):
and obviously to your point, I mean, I think the
criticisms have gotten louder, and they've gotten louder, and I
think it's It's kind of like have they been brushed off,
Like have have listening to what maybe players have had
to say, like you know, when the whole ab and

(21:40):
Ben Roethlisberger thing was taking place, or you know with
some of the things that have taken place with Pickens,
you know how things have been handled. You know, people
that have been in that locker room are saying that
those things aren't being handled the same way when the
culture was was different, like guys like Rod Woodson and

(22:01):
Greg Lloyd you know, managed and governed, governed the locker
room or you know, the way they did things with
the families or the way things were handled. I think
there's just been a lot of conversation about how different
things are, and I think it's been referenced as a
culture loss. So I don't know, but it seems like

(22:23):
there's more criticism being lobbed lately.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
People make culture, and ultimately, in sports, players make the
culture of any team. You know, a coach can try
to do their best to come in and create an environment,
but even within that environment, you can have a poisoned
culture if you don't have the right people with the
right character. And so I'm not saying that like This

(22:48):
isn't like a Mike Tomlin thing, or it's not a
Rooney family issue. But if they feel like there's a
part of their culture that doesn't exist based on what
it used to be, draw a couple of reasons of
why that probably is. The NFL has changed drastically. We
talked about this earlier in the week. What's been the
identity of the Pittsburgh Steelers, especially when they had their

(23:09):
rate of success, like the Steel Curtain was a defensive
lead team. They've had their phenomenal Hall of Fame NFL
players on offense, but Pittsburgh is and in my mind
always will be identified by the toughness, the physicality of
their defense, the pressure that their defense can create. The

(23:31):
NFL has continually moved in the direction of wanting to
be more of an offensive league, and we talked about
this early in regards to the rule changes you know
in LeVar are some of the things you touched on.
The truth of the matter is there's a lot of
defensive players who are frustrated because when there is a
rule change, it's usually the defensive player that has to
adjust their game. They're the ones getting fined. They're the
ones that if they don't implement the proper technique or

(23:54):
proper teachings of whatever the change is. They're the ones
that take fall to it. Because of that, You know,
if you are a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and you look
at the reign of success they had way back when,
and then obviously Tomlin when he came in, he was
able to win a Super Bowl. Kward was able to
win a Super Bowl. But if you're really looking at

(24:14):
like where things are going moving forward, One, they haven't
found a quarterback basically since Big Ben left, they haven't
had really a guy and that's been the biggest detriment
to them. But also because when you talk about culture,
like that's the guy that's also going to set the culture,
who's going to be a part of that leadership group

(24:34):
that determines what happens what doesn't happen. And it feels
like on the defensive side of the ball, they've had
those guys, like they've had those of those Cam Haywards,
there's TJ. Watts to whoever you want to point to,
they have those guys. On offense, they haven't And I
think one of the things Naje was pointing out was
how you know they didn't. They couldn't find it really
a quarterback, There wasn't really a veteran on that side
to learn from. The offensive line started to kind of

(24:56):
move away as well. They lost that group you're in.
You're divorce of leadership on one side of the ball.
It's hard for young players to come in and feel
like they can learn, feel like they can improve and
grow and then but also feel like they have to
conform to whatever that culture is. The defense can only
do so much, whether that's on the field or off

(25:16):
the field. And I think that's what you've seen with
the Pittsburgh Steelers. As the league has adapted and evolved,
as this roster has adapted and evolved, they haven't been
able to find those leaders from a players standpoint on
the offensive side of the ball, to be those guys
to maintain that culture. At least that's how I see it.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
In fact, if you're on take it a step further,
there have been personalities that have deteriorated from what the
culture could be and how their their actions play out.
And there is no it just doesn't seem like there's
a checks and balance system that has always seemingly been

(25:57):
a part of the Steelers team. Now how true that is,
I don't know, you know, because I've never been in
that locker room. I don't know, you know, I don't
know the culture that I hear about being spoken of.
I just know I hold Mike Tomlin in very high
regard and and I think he's a very respectable dude. Uh.
That's always what I've known of him. It's always seemed

(26:20):
to be what the overwhelming narrative is that surrounds him.
But there also seems to be this other side of
it that it is like kind of pokes its head
up or it kind of becomes a you know, things
that are discussed, and I'm just wondering, what's what's the

(26:42):
what's the other side of this? You know, looking at
what coach Tomlin has been able to be as a
coach and how he's received, what is there another side
to all of this? You know, because it doesn't look
like the Steelers are in a way, doesn't look like
they're going in the right direction. And then you know,

(27:03):
you have players, and they have things to say. Players
more often than not, when they leave a team and
they felt like they should have still been there, they
you know, they don't always say nice things, the nicest things.
But that what nags that Harris said, that's not that's
not him being disgruntled. It just sounds like he's saying
what he saw and what his experience was. And if

(27:26):
that's truly what it is, that's a tad bit damning.
If you ask me.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Who's the star of the Steelers, it's Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I mean, he's the star to Steelers.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Like where else in the NFL is the head coach
the star of the team when you think of the Steelers,
And that's just that's their identity right now. And the
only other example I.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Will say this though, that's that's always been kind of
Stiller culture though, because Bill Cower was the star of
the team, Chuck Nole was the star of the.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Team, your own Bettie, and great players, great players you.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Got, TJ. Watt, you got, you got guys that have
stars of this team. You know, you have had stars
throughout the years, but it's always been led by the
stardom of the head coach. Like that has always been
a staple of Pittsburgh. That I mean, that's so I'm
not going to make that like that's a thing for
Mike Tomlin Bill Cower was the same. It was the

(28:26):
same thing with Bill Cower.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
See I look at it. I go, when you think
of the Steelers, who do you think of first, Mike Tomlin?
When do you think of the Cowboys? Who do you
think of first? Jerry Jones? And neither one of them.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
But they had stars. Dallas has always had stars.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
Too, But right now, I mean they all have stars,
the owner and the coach. If the owner and the
coach are the most well known members of the team,
it just feels like that's a problem, Like that's.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I don't know man that way. I don't though, I
don't know how I feel about that one, because again,
like the Pittsburgh growing up Pittsburgh Steeler, it's always been
coach and then the players. It's always been that Chuck Knowles.
It's always been it was always Chuck Nole. And then
when when Bill was like, oh Bill Coward's taking over,

(29:14):
what's going to happen now? And Bill Coward became the
same exact thing, hard knows tough dude led to the team, okay,
and the rest of the crew. So I think Mike
Tomlin came in and he fit the mold, and he
fit the profile perfectly for what a Pittsburgh Steeler coach
is supposed to be. So don't I want attribute it

(29:35):
to that. But I will say, when you come in
and that's what you are with a franchise that's only
had less than a handful of coaches throughout the entire
history of the team, then you're talking about you're going
to be measured and judged in the same vein and
in the same manner of which those other coaches have
been measured and for what it's worth. At the end

(29:57):
of Coach Coward's career, it kind of it kind of
was like the same thing that we're we're hearing right
now that's kind of bubbling up on on Mike Tomlin,
you know, kind of like some of the same conversations
that have bubbled up so and then eventually Bill Cower
stepped away, you know. But I don't know, man, it

(30:19):
sounds like it seems like there's fire though it's not
just smoke. I feel like there's something, there's something there
in Pittsburgh. I just don't, you know, I don't know
what it is. I'm gonna get to the bottom of it, though, Yeah,
I'm want to figure it out.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
Who else is getting the call.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I'm gonna call a couple of people, No, no, few
people still well, flex my Brady Quinn, call my insiders.
Do you.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
I just I don't know. Sometimes I feel like culture
comes into question when you don't win. And early on
in Mike Tomlin's I mean, look, he said it's one.
You know, he's never had a losing season. But when
they had Big Ben, which I think it's more of
a quarterback issue than anything else, especially in today's NFL.
But when they had Big Ben, they were making it

(31:11):
into the playoffs and making a little bit of a run.
You know, you knew there was stuff going on with Ab,
you knew there was stuff going on with maybe some
other players. I mean, hell, the Le'Veon Belston, but it
ultimately didn't really affect them to a certain degree. Maybe
over time that's become more of the issue. And also
I wonder, you know, does Mike Tomlin run as tight

(31:33):
of a ship as Najee Harris experienced at Alabama? Nick Saban,
probably not, mind you. One of the best things that
came out of this interview that Najie Harris did, by
the way, was a story about him being recruited by Michigan.
I believe when Jim Harbaugh was there, and Jim Harbaugh

(31:53):
came to his high school for one of his games
and he wanted to announce the homecoming queen. So Jim
Harbond out of nowhere randomly shows up, watched Naji Harris
play a game, and it's Jim Harbon announcing the homecoming
queen because he never done before at Naji's high school.

(32:16):
How random is that for him?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I don't feel it's like, wait.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Could you see Jim Harbaugh being like, yeah, yeah, I'll
announce home coming queen. I've never done. That'd be amazing.
That'd be the greatest thing in the world. I've never
never done this before. I'll definitely announce the homecoming queen.
But what think about if you're a student, Like, what
the hell? Why is Jim Harbaugh announcing our homecoming queen?

Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's weird?

Speaker 6 (32:43):
I love.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I do too, man.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I think he is one of the greatest personalities and
football minds we've ever encountered. I mean, I hope he's
going to donate his brain to be studied after it's
all said and done.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I really do. It's thank you.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
He's like the.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Old fascinates me, like I've had enough conversations with them
where I'm like, I don't know if this is a
waste of my time or not, but I'm enjoying it,
like I'm enjoying the different like roads we're driving down
right now, the journey that we're on that is a
Jim Harball production meeting phone call.

Speaker 6 (33:18):
Oh man, he really is like the O'Reilly of head coaches.
If you think about it.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Oh, you could say that. Oh and O'Reilly.

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(33:46):
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Speaker 3 (33:50):
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Speaker 6 (34:01):
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done here, Jesus, show fly.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Coming up at the top of the hour.

Speaker 6 (34:16):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Wow, what's coming up? Jonahs? All right?

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Well, the top of our four Eastern time tomorrow. Well,
actually that doesn't even work.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Whatever.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
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lease might smell a little fun.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
What that sounds incredible? But they're still good. Time to
find out what's lap? It's Lee's lap?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
All right?

Speaker 6 (35:12):
Lead to lap.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
What do we got?

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Oh boy, Happy Football Friday, everybody. I'm ready for the weekend.
I hope you guys are too. It's getting warm out there.
It's gonna be in the eighties out here in southern
California for the first time this year. And I was
just telling you that, of course, it's always around this
time that the AC breaks, just broken by condo unit.
I think conspiracy theory here that the people who uh

(35:34):
you know, inspect and service these air conditioning units in
these large complexes, they go in and they break something
just to get us to hire somebody to come out
as being on the HLA. I think that's my conspiracy
theory of the weekend.

Speaker 6 (35:50):
I do know somebody who used to capture snakes. They
used to, like when animal control didn't want to handle
like really dangerous animals, they would call this individual may
or may not have been my brother. Again, I don't know,
may or may not have been may or may not
have you know, once or twice while grabbing a rattlesnake

(36:12):
out of somebody's yard, they'd be throwing.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
In somebody else's Yet it's more.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
Frequent work again that but you know, so it wouldn't
be surprising if maybe there was some way, somehow these
companies wanted to keep the work going and they you know, is.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
This is this like that that movie Dirty Works kind
of like a revenge for higher almost like they just
go in and kind of mess some stuff up, as
are your Sanley?

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Yeah, yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Do you remember that movie?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
I do remember it, not with Norm McDonald and what
was the prank calling movie he was also in?

Speaker 4 (36:50):
I'm not sure, but dirty Work done. Don Rickles ran
the movie theater Dirty Work, Yeah, you can the personality
of a Dead moth? What was that the one to
where Chris Farley was in He got nose bitten off?

Speaker 6 (37:09):
It was Artie Lang, it was Norm McDonald and Don
Rickles was in it. Don Rickles was just making them
laugh the entire time.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
He was so insulting.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Hmm what else we GotY uh?

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Well, you guys are the ones with kiddos here? Are
you taking any of the kiddos? Have to go see
snow White is the big there is.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
There is an amazing Tim Dillon rant about this movie.
It is an all time classic rant. If you don't
know who Tim Dillon is and you have not seen it,
go search for it and find it. It's an all
time rant. I wish we actually probably could play it.
I don't know how much we'd have to censor it. It

(37:55):
just would be tough to turn around in time. Yeah,
but he's he's giving a lot of a lot of
blame to Peter Dinklin. I'll just leave it at that, hmm.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
Zero chance to see it, zero and and he will
not be allowed to see it. I'll put it that way.
I got more important things to do.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
Okay, Yeah, you know, I see everything. I'm not seeing
this movie.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
That's a lie. No, no chance. Okay, what if you
get over there and Todd makes you late to a
movie like he likes to do.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I believe Todd and Lee are going to go see
snow White together.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
It would be ironically just to make it.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay, Well, I think you guys are going to load
up your little your little plastic flash.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
You're going to go up in there, and.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
You guys are going to enjoy the show, and you're
going to hold hands and rub legs.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Definitely might pass the flask.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
But why do you why though?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, that's it there, that's a part of it. That's
a part of it.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
You know, thankfully seats These days in the movie theaters
they're much bigger and more separated than the East.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
They're not more separated now, they're still very very intimate setting.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Do you recline your your legs in a movie theater now?

Speaker 4 (39:17):
You do?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah? No?

Speaker 4 (39:18):
On some of them, yeah, all of them.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
I can't. If I do that, I'll fall asleep right away.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I fall asleep all the time, exactly with Todd's hand
in your hand, put your head on my show.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
Hey buddy, you leave your phone in my pocket?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Or are you just happy to see me
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