Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Wednesday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Giants sign Russell Wilson, but how does that affect the Draft? The Titans are infatuated by Cam Ward but that doesn’t mean it’s a done deal. Brady recaps his experiences leading up to the Draft. The Old P, Petros Papadakis  shares his love for the Intuit Dome and much more!  

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar airings and rating win and Jonas Knox on four.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, brand new member of the New York Giants one
rare ten point five million could be worth out the
twenty one million.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Whoopee doo.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Congratulations are you playing that musicause the veto's going take
him out and getting pitched. I've never been a bigger
Tobby DeVito fan of my life.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Take him out in East Jersey. They gonna come back.

Speaker 5 (00:40):
Oh man, so pod for the review.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
The projection that the Giants were gonna take Schadora Sanders,
you know, took a little bit of a hit, a
little bit of a fender mender.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
How do this odds look By the way, as we
talked about on Monday, when you made this grand proclamation
out the Jamis Winston signing was that they're not gonna
take another veteran. What do those odds look like?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm not ready to discuss that right now, to be
honest with you, We've got a whole show to get
into that. You know, we can look at that to
another point, but it does feel like away we go
and the New York Giants are going to be looking
elsewhere with that number three pick.

Speaker 6 (01:17):
Yeah, I'll just wonder the closer we get to the draft,
will I mean this to me is one of the
first dominoes or whatever to say that there could be
an understanding.

Speaker 7 (01:32):
And again, I don't want to be that.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
I don't want to be that guy because I like
these guys, but I just got to do my job.
It could be the first sign of saying that these
quarterbacks aren't top five guys, they might not be top
ten guys.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I know it sounds crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:52):
And I know some of these teams need a quarterback,
and I get that, but again, do you use a
number one pick, a number two pick, a number three pick,
do you use it on a guy that you might
you just might not be all the way clear on

(02:13):
if they are a changer at that position. I just
I can't. I think that the more we see and
the more we hear, and the closer we get, I
just don't. I can't see how you justify it. And
that's just you know, that's just how I'm looking at it.
So them taking Russell Wilson, I don't know that that

(02:35):
means they're not going to take a quarterback in the draft.
I just don't think they're going to take it with
their first pick. That's why I think.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
The Giants select is it third? Is that right?

Speaker 7 (02:45):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
I think the hard thing about it is, if you're
looking at the Tennessee Titans, and we can get into
that here in a little bit, they seem very interested
in Camboard. They've gone through all of the check marks
or steps you go through if you're going to take
a quarterback at number one. So far, you know, we've
heard about obviously the visits and things they've they've had

(03:08):
with cam Ward at the Combine. They've now followed it
up by being present at his pro day. They've set
up a private workout that is, those are all the
steps that you take if you're saying we would like
to draft this guy. We want to know more about
this guy. So they seem like they're going in that direction. Now,
maybe you know, it's just part of their due diligence

(03:31):
and they're trying to learn about the player that they
may not take when it's all said and done, or
if they trade out of that spot, for example, but
it seems like that's the direction they're going. Then look
at Cleveland Brown's, Okay, what do the Cleveland Browns do?
Because they're sitting there at number two, and if they
don't take cam Ward, they might be looking at Shor Sanders,
they might be looking at a quarterback. So you kind

(03:53):
of find yourself, like we usually talk about in regards
to the draft, looking at it not necessarily the fact that, hey,
you know, is Abdul Carter the best overall prospect, Travis
Hunoman besto. Yeah, those are probably two better overall prospects,
but they don't play quarterback. And if these you know,
these places, these teams don't figure out that position, it

(04:13):
really doesn't matter. So if the Giants are batting third
in this case, not only are they looking at it saying, well,
we can raid on Rogers, but it sounds like if
he plays, he wants to go to Pittsburgh if that
even happens, not us, and so they could wait around.
But then maybe Russ might say, well, the Browns are actually,
you know, calling too, and maybe they want to try

(04:33):
to bring me in, you know, to get them through
this season and to see where things go. So I
think there's a bunch of factors that led to this
and the Giants deciding that that kind of now was
the moment to strike with Russ. I think for Russ,
this is part of the best contract that he could
get too out of the teams that were, you know,
looking for services. You know, if it's incentivized to go
up to twenty one million, great, you know, but he's

(04:55):
at least got you know, about eleven million guaranteed in
this deal, and he could feel like, well, it's more
than jamis, so at least from a veterans standpoint, I
know my role, I know what I'm being paid to do.
I'm being paid to be the guy. And it doesn't
it doesn't necessarily exclude the Giants from taking a quarterback
if one's there, if one drops them at that spot.

(05:15):
But I think now it opens them up to, you know,
other positions. Maybe they're looking at Will Campbell a tackle,
you know, maybe they're looking at Abdul Card even though
I don't think there's a need for it. They've got Burns,
They've got Kevon Thibodeau. They signed pauls on a debo
at cornerback to a pretty big deal. He's getting paid
about eighteen million a year this offseason. They've got Deontay Banks,
they took in the first round a couple of years ago,

(05:36):
So I'm not really sure what they would see Travis Hunter.
Maybe he's in a rotation there and he plays wide
receiver as well to go along with the league neighbors.
But you know, as I look at it, you know,
it looks like they're setting themselves up to either take
one of those blue chip prospects or even trade back.
Dare I say, and be able to get to a

(05:58):
spot where they get multiple picks to goin to help
out this this roster, whether it's on offense or anywhere else.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, I think you do your due diligence for multiple
multiple reasons. And I mean some that would jump right
out at you is well, because you want the kid
and you want to make sure it's it's one of
the guys that if you're going to bring them in,
you do want.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
To check off all those boxes.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Two could be you want to drive the value up
of the prospect and drive the value up of your
pick at the same point in time. You know, if
they believe we want cam Ward and the team wants
cam Ward, then they're going to show you at some
point that they want cam Ward just like.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
You do or or you smoke out your competitors.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Right, you put something out there and you show it
and you see how people react to it. I don't
know how people are reacting to it behind the scenes,
but if the market says, well you don't, go ahead
take them like, good for you, guys, Glad you got
the number one pick. Listen, it's a big pick for

(07:08):
any position. It's a ginormous pick. It's a larger than
life pick. For a quarterback. You go number one as
a QB and you can look at it from both
sides of the spectrum, from the success side of it
to the lack of success. I mean, there's not been
what there's I'm trying to think. I don't have the

(07:30):
list of number ones at quarterback, but I don't know
the success rate.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
But I do remember was JaMarcus? Was he number one overall? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
You have the JaMarcus is whatn't then?

Speaker 7 (07:43):
What was Carrie?

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Was Kerry Collins the number one overall? Wasn't that Tennessee too?
That's Giants? Who was that?

Speaker 7 (07:50):
Anyway?

Speaker 6 (07:51):
So I think that is a it's a hard that
is a hard, hard.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Place to be in a position to be in to be.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
A quarterback Kerry Collins was the Panthers to the Pathers.
But number one though, right, he went number one. I
don't recall, No no, no, Keijona Dick Kejona Carter went
number one. He went number two anyway, No no, no, no,
no no no. Keijohna went number one. Carrie went like
a little bit after that. But anyway, the point is
the point is that I'm making it is a tough

(08:23):
position to place somebody who may not grade out for
that that spot. I don't I like cam Ward's game.
I like Shador Sanders game. I really do. And I'm
not saying this for any other reason other than to say,
I just don't think they grade out as number one

(08:44):
slot quarterbacks. They're grades to me, don't give you. This
is a bona fide number one guy. So with that
being said, you're going to try to figure out find
out the information you want to find out pre draft,
and you want to contrast, and you want to compare
because the guy that may grade out to be a
number two, number one pick for the draft, there may

(09:06):
be something there that the team doesn't like. I don't know,
could be an injury that pops up, you know, could
be certain other factors that pop up. I just don't
see this. I just don't see this as being a
situation where where you have such high graded dudes. I
mean to say to me, the conversation should be over

(09:28):
the moment you say, Miles Garrett, this is the highest
we've graded a guy since Males Garrett. Okay, what's what's
what else is there to talk about? What else is
there to talk about? I don't know what else there
is there is to put into the ill bet. Cam
Woord goes number one, Okay, all right, I mean, it

(09:49):
wouldn't be the first time I'm right. It wouldn't be
the first time I'm wrong. So I just and certainly
it wouldn't be the first time you're right, or the
first time you're.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
We're actually on the subject because of Monday. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
I mean I think it's a it's a it's a
good bet. I just don't think it's a safe bet.
I don't think it's a safe one.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
That's all.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
I mean, minus sixteen hundred feels safe.

Speaker 7 (10:13):
But okay, take it, take it.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Have we have we found the updated odds?

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes, we found the updated odds.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You have to tight screws on this, all right, so
a guy can't get something wrong for once.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I'm curious, all right, cam Ward.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Sixteen to one to go number one overall or minus
sixteen hundred, so you bet, you know, sixteen dollars to
make a buck. If you want cam Ward to go
number one, then it gets interesting. Abdual Carter at number
two is a minus one thirty chador is a plus
one eighty five. And then at the number three, pick
Travis Hunter at a minus one fifty chador a to

(10:50):
plus one seventy.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
So if you're Kim.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Woard's not even a part of like the giants considerations,
is that what you're saying? No, no, no, no chance.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
So they got him off the board.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
There's a better chance to cam Neely going.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
If cam Ward doesn't go number one to if he
doesn't go number one to Tennessee and Cleveland, he'll go
number two.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
So he will go number two. They will take him
in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, it's actually the best option.

Speaker 7 (11:18):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
The hard part for Cleveland is, you know they're I
think they're all trying to get cam Ward and the
problem is Cleveland needs them. You can make the case
Tennessee needs enough they're overwill Levis, And for Cleveland, it's
a necessity because of the kind of the salary cap situation.
You know, you need a cheaper contract to take on.

(11:41):
And that's probably why Russell Wilson ultimately took the Giants offer.
It's because of what they were able to guarantee and
the fact that they were probably able to tell them, hey,
we're not going to draft one like you can sign here,
here's our guarantee, here's the incentives. We're not going to
draft the quarterback like. We need veterans. We need to win.
Now that that's the pressure that we feel like we're under,

(12:02):
and we don't feel like we're gonna be able to
get the best guy in the draft anyway. So if
we can't get that, let's go get a veteran or
a couple of veterans who we feel more comfortable and
confident about. And if we do take a young guy,
maybe it's a guy we take in the second, third, fourth,
fifth round that we feel like is a guy that
can develop more. And I don't know if that's a
Riley Leonard from Notre Dame. I'm not sure who they

(12:24):
would see in that capacity, but I think that would
be what the Giants are setting themselves up to do.
And I think for the Browns, they're hoping that Abdua
Carter goes number one. That's what they're hoping. But if
you're the Tennessee Titans and you went through what you
did last year, you're looking at the quarterback spot more

(12:45):
than anything else. When you're at the number one spot
and you have the chance to take the best guy
in that draft, it's hard to pass up on that guy.
I mean, even as good as Abdual Carter is as
a prospect, or Travis Hunter is as a prospect, or
whoever else you want to put in that category, it's
just it's too hard to pass up when you have
control of that spot.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
If you were to look at the Giants off season,
now that it listen, you know, apparently they're not going
to be taking a quarterback. Doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion,
but it does feel like at least this opens up
the opportunity to take somebody else it's not a quarterback.
And I still, for the record, I don't think should
or Sanders gets past six to the Raiders. I don't
see it happening, either he goes two to Cleveland or

(13:23):
somebody trades up. I don't see the Raiders passing on
him at six. But if you were to now look
at the Giants offseason, I feel a whole lot better
about Brian da Ball being able to make something of
this year and maybe stick around for another year. With
the addition of Russell Wilson and Travis Hunter as opposed
to just should or Sanders at three, Like, at least

(13:45):
it opens up the opportunity for that team to add
a couple of pieces as opposed to just going all
in at one.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
You know what's funny, before I say what I was
about to say, just based off of what you're saying too,
just made me think, can you imagine that russ is
so an irrelevant in this scenario?

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Damn that it turned to the draft.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
It's like, we welcome he and Russ.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Oh, by the way, so let's talk about cam Ward
to the Giants and or the Chador Sanders to the
Giants and this and that and how this could all
play out, and like, hey, russ Man, see what you
can do with it, Breth, see what can happen with it.
But let me ask you, guys this, cam Ward Shador Sanders,
if they come out in last year's draft, where do

(14:33):
they get drafted?

Speaker 4 (14:36):
I'll keep saying it. I don't know that you start
talking about how they stack up amongst last year's class
until JJ McCarthy. I think that's the player that you
look at it and say, Okay, is it cam or
is it Jj? Is it Shador Sanders. That's how much
better that class was in my opinion as prospects. And

(14:57):
again you're talking about two Heisman Trophy winners Jane Danie
and then Caleb Williams before that, and you're talking about
years that Michael Pennix and Bo Nicks both had their teams,
you know, in much better situations and really had put
together two years. It's not just like what they did
their final year that the two years Knicks was in Oregon,
the two years that the Penix was in Washington, I mean,

(15:20):
both those guys like played phenomenal. And again, so that's
where when I look at the tape and I kind
of look at those draft classes in comparison, It's why
again I'm looking at this draft class saying there's separation
in a lot of people's minds, which there's not as
much separation in my mind between Shador and Camboard. There's not.

(15:40):
And I would actually make the case that I think
I think Shador his game, the way he plays, fits
the NFL style more. And there's a lot of people
who've nitpicked at him. There's a lot of people who've
talked about arm strength there. You can't make up for accuracy, though,
you can't make up for toughness. Some of the things
he's done, you can coach out them. Get to get

(16:01):
the ball out of his hand, quicker. You know when
people talk about, well, hey, he throws a lot of
balls around the line of scrimmage, it's a lot of
you know, bubble screens like, well, so does cam Wards.
So does every quarterback that's coming out in the draft
right now, every quarterback. Go if you were to look
at their throw chart and where they're throwing the football,
the days of guys throwing that mid portion of the
field somewhere between ten yards twenty yards downfield, it ain't happening.

(16:24):
You're not saying. At the college level, you either see
within ten yards of the line of scrimmager behind it,
or you see something that throws outside most likely downfield,
and the completion percentage for those isn't that great, So
that's kind of what you're getting. And so there's going
to be development for any quarterback that goes to the
NFL from today's college game. So going back to the

(16:46):
initial point though, is if cam Ward is in the
minds of many others, because of his natural unroll ability,
viewed as the number one guy and then just kind
of a drop off from there in their minds, it
leads me back to Russell Wilson is going to be
a solution for the New York Giants in this case,
and the Kirk Cousins is still something that's really interesting
to keep an eye on. But as has been discussed

(17:09):
i'm sure by you guys yesterday and maybe we've touched
on a little bit on this on Monday, but that's
more of a trade scenario during the draft. It's something
where he doesn't want to have what happened last year
happened again. So any team that takes him, I think
it's going to be a team that either missed up
on the chance to take a quarterback or is going
to be able to find a way of trading something

(17:31):
for him to get his services this time around as
one of those bridge quarterbacks, Like that's where he's at,
and I think teams would rather have Kirk Cousins probably
than whatever comes after cam Warden in a lot of cases,
as crazy as it is for people to hear, there's
a level of play and consistency that he's had and
last year, yes it wasn't great, so why he got

(17:53):
bench for Pennix. But I also think he was playing injured.
So there's still so much that can happen between now
and the draft. I just I'm a believer in like
kind of what you're saying in regards to how this
class is viewed. And it's not surprising you've heard that.
I can tell you this much. Next year's draft class,
there'll be teams tanking for that guy if they can,
because you know, wonder who that guy is probably going

(18:14):
to be, Arch Manning after one year. So if you
want me to just go ahead and call the shot now,
I'll say it now. Arch Maanning will be the number
one overall pick in the twenty twenty six draft. Oh okay,
after one year starting at Texas.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
I buy that just because of who he is. I
buy that, But the kid can really play. I mean,
you see him on film. He jumped off filming. I asked, you, guys,
was it going to make sense to take him out?
I remember being in state college in the room asking
does it make sense to take him out? After he
was playing the way that he was playing? So, you know,

(18:55):
I just don't get that feeling about these two that
are coming out right now. That's that's And listen, I've
talked to a couple of different people that I still
have ties with, and they were talking to me about
my son, and I brought this up because I just
wanted to know, you know, for for general purposes. You know,
where is Abdul? You know, and all of this, you know,

(19:16):
how does that work? And this that and the other
and this quarterback just hasn't seemed to be a deterrent,
That's what I'll say. It just hasn't seemed to be
a deterrent in terms of how these these franchises. The
few that at least people that I spoke to that
that had been you know, in contact with me as
of late, it's it just doesn't sound like it's a deterrent.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
What happened though to your contacts about the New York
Giants situation though, what happened on those contexts?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
What happened the context of it, what happened cont what
about my con I were trying to tell you how
this sole thing was going to play out?

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Okay, I mean we didn't talk about Russell Wilson, That's
that's for certain.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
We did talk about No, you.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Asked me about my contacts and what we were discussing.
Russell Wilson wasn't one of those, you know, and and
again I didn't. I wasn't reaching out for information. It's
just kind of you know, conversation. One of one of
my teammates. Uh actually passed away, and yeah he passed away.

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Though not that way, he said too slow after Okay,
yeah he passed away.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
But but yeah, but uh, in terms of just that talking,
I mean, yeah, we didn't even Russell Wilson didn't even
come up, you know, to be honest. So you know,
I don't know, you gotta you gotta wonder why.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
But the guy that I one of the guys I
did talk to, is a pretty prominent dude, and you know,
he's probably talked to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Want what number is Abdul gonna wear in Cleveland or
New York? Because you need to tell me they're gonna
unretire Mohammed Massaquia's number and give it to Abdull Carter.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
If the number is required to retire, not happening. If
the number is retired, then there's a strong possibility he's
going to have to choose a different number. I mean
it's like, oh, he wore fifty six, he's going to
the Giants. What number is he going to wear in
New York? Like, he's not wearing fifty six? So yeah,
so were able to be sticks? What's that?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
What number were you gonna wear?

Speaker 7 (21:25):
Then? Ar was? Who me?

Speaker 4 (21:29):
You in New York?

Speaker 6 (21:31):
I don't I wore fifty five. I went to New
York five one last Yeah, okay, mister Nichols was my
It was the that's right now, Yes, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
But here's what's crazy, though.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Do you dog that I only wore fifty six or
I only wore fifty six because five plus six equals
eleven eleven. Yeah, that's the only reason why I wore
fifty six. I didn't wear fifty six because I was
trying to be like Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Twn Why didn't you wear like forty seven.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Then ugly ninety ninety two. It wasn't allowed to wear
thirty eight all that back then, you couldn't. Thirty eight
was the first number I ever wore playing ball. But yeah,
I would have worn thirty eight. But you can't wear
thirty eight, couldn't wear you know any other number that
that equalled? You could have worn sixty nine, right, uh

(22:19):
uh uh huh not unless I tried to be a
defensive end and was like a lineman. And I still
think that that's a that would have been a long shot.
Like I don't even know how but you but you
wanted it. I mean sixty nine. Yeah, I mean, I'm
not opposed to a sixty nine, And I just wouldn't
have warned the number.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I'm really gonna do that. I fall with that one, Jonas,
what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I thought? With that one?

Speaker 7 (22:46):
Get us? What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 2 (23:02):
So we talked about the Russell Wilson signing earlier in
the show. Uh, there's some reports out there that maybe
Brady Quinn might have called it, maybe he didn't.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
We're trying to effort, you know, being able to fact
check that. But one of these stories it's also out,
is that Adam Schefter reporting that the Titans are still
open to trading out of the number one pick, but
that it will take even more now to do so,
following their meeting and pro day with cam Ward.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
So what do you take abat that, LeVar Arrington?

Speaker 6 (23:37):
I mean I already told you in segment one that that.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Could that could easily be.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
They're gauging the value of one of those picks, you know,
want either Shadoor, I mean, excuse me, either cam or
Abdul maybe even Travis Hunter. You know, they're measuring and
weighing out what the value is from other from other franchises.

(24:06):
And I mean, why not if you're playing a good
game of poker, you're playing a good hand, why not
check you know, before you start raising and all that
other stuff. Why not check it first? So to me,
I mean, I think this is par for the course, right,
Like if you can get some tremendous draft capital off
of that number one pick, and you can hit multiple

(24:28):
position groups with what it is that you receive and
maybe possibly set yourself up for the future. I mean,
it's it's worth it if you're not in love with
the idea of taking which this is my thought is,
if you're not in love with taking that quarterback at
number one and you want to get a quarterback, or

(24:52):
you know, you want to get more more draft stock,
I guess you you hope that they fall to a different,
different spot. I mean, are you taking number one? Are
you going? Are you getting that pick to try to
go get a quarterback?

Speaker 7 (25:07):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
I just don't know that these quarterbacks are worth all
of that shuffling. So to me, you might you might
move a spot or two and still be able to
get the same player. You might be able to move
a few more spots and get the same player that
you were intending to get at the spot that you
traded out of in the first place. So I don't

(25:28):
know it's worth It's worth seeing what the value of
it is. What is somebody willing to give up for
that pick.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Well, and to that point, I don't think anyone's going
to see the full value of it until you get
to that deadline. Right, deadlines do deals, and we know
that the deadline of this deal in essence, as far
as what the number one overall pick is worth, is
going to come until the Thursday of the first round
of the draft, because at that point in time, you know,
the Tesse Titans are essentially on the clock that day
and they have to make a decision. Either they stay

(25:55):
with Will Levis, they have a trade partner that they
feel like they can get some sort of comp station
back at exchange for that pick that equates to the
King's ransom that we've seen at times that teams that
have the number one overall pick or are in a
position to draft a quarterback typically make for it. I mean,
there's precedents for moving up one spot. This President's for
moving up, you know a few spots. You know who's

(26:17):
going to be that team? Is it Cleveland who just
wants to move up one who's in a dire situation
where they probably can't bring on a veteran to the
contract that that veteran probably would want. Is it you
know the New York Giants? Still You know, I personally
don't know that they're going to go in that direction,
at least at number three. I think there's a chance
that they take one later on. I don't know that

(26:39):
they take one a number three overall, despite some of
like the Florio reports as far as what the Russell
Wilson contract looks like and cutting Jamis Winston and all
this stuff, I would say this, they're doing all the
things that you do if you're going to take that
quarterback a number one. I said that in the first hour. Now,

(27:01):
that doesn't mean anything other than that they're doing their
proper due diligence as they should. Like I've always made
the case that when you have these guys coming out
as prospects, if you're not taking the time to go
see them at their pro day, to go see them
at the combine, interview them, talk to them. Hell, spend
one of your visits on these guys, because you never

(27:23):
know when it's gonna turn around. You're gonna have the
chance to sign them or trade for them. It could
be a year from now, it could be two to three, whatever,
many years from now, and you want to have some
basis of what this player was at a time when
you can collect more information about them than ever before
in their life, and some teams do not. They do

(27:43):
not do that for some reason, and it always blows
my mind. What I'm like, Dude, you have the chance
every year to evaluate the most important asset on your
roster in the NFL, as a quarterback, and you're not
spending time doing it. Now. Maybe there's a few a
handful of exceptions, right, maybe the Chiefs, maybe whoever else,

(28:05):
But I mean, think about this. For example, last year
the Carson Wentz back to Patrick Mahomes. I mean, wouldn't
have been nice to know what you're bringing in as
a backup, even though the guy was going as a
high first round pick to the Philadelphia Eagles. Like, wouldn't
have been nice to have all that? I mean, maybe
they did, but I'm just kind of saying, like, these
are the sorts of things that like, look, Tennessee is

(28:26):
doing all the right things, but there's other teams who
you know should be probably are doing it, aren't being
reported on it as much. But I think that the
tough decision for Tennessee. And this is what I think
they're going to do if they if they end up
moving on from cam Ward I think they're gonna trade
for Kirk Cousins because that's really the only other play

(28:47):
they have as far as bringing a guy who's demonstrated
the ability to play at a high level in the NFL.
And they're a team that probably has the cap space
to be able to absorb a portion of that contract,
and Atlanta can end up making that work where Tennessee
will pay a portion of it, and maybe they pay
a portion of they get to pick back an exchange.
But that scenario is the only other scenario where you

(29:11):
could see Tennessee out of that pick, whether it's the
number two or trading anywhere else, and they still get
a blue chip player with that draft pick, additional draft capital,
and they use part of that additional draft capital potentially
in a trade to get Cousins. That's an essence like
how this whole thing would play out if they're not

(29:32):
going to take cam Ward at number one, Like that's
the only other scenario I see for them at this point.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
We were talking about this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
What would be a.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Like not no chance you're making a move, deal breaker
type of behavior at a dinner because if they're having
this dinner with cam Ward over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Is there anything, Brady?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
If you were out to some sort of a dinner
like this to where somebody could do that, it'd be like, oh,
even though they're a great player or a great person
or a potential great hire, that's a deal breaker. Any
restaurant behavior that you would look at and go f this.
So I don't want any part of this guy.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
So when I was coming out as a prospect the
Tampa Bay Bucks, who then had the number four overall
pick and John Gruden was their head coach, they came
to South then and Gruden and Bruce Allen did a
dinner and they actually flew up a couple of their
wide receivers, one of which I played with Marie Stovall.
Great dude, like one of the all time greatest teammates ever,

(30:31):
Like if you playing football with them, if you wanted
to have if you're working in the corporate space, like
Mosto is one of the greatest human beings ever. PA
guy there you go, LeVar, but you want him on
your team, like he's that type of guy, right, So
they fly up and I believe it was Sam and
Mark Clayton and we were kind of sitting at dinner
and they were like, hey, I have a beer or whatever.

(30:53):
And at that point, like, I mean, you're trained, and
you're told like, hey, like yeah, i'd be careful. You
never know how they're going to be judged. They're they're
monitoring everything you do, and in retrospect, I probably could
have had a beer or two and been fine, like
Gruden and those guys would have been fine with that.
But I was like, no, I'm good. You know, you
gotta you know, we gotta work out and early morn
tomorrow and all that, and you know, you're kind of

(31:14):
saying the things that you know at the moment. Obviously
I meant that, but like I would have gladly had
a beer with them too. It just wasn't really sure
how to gauge that. And so we have dinner and
we kind of go downstairs and John Cruden, Bruce Allen
stayed up and like the little private room they had rented,
and so we go down. I'm like, hey, should I

(31:36):
have had a beer with them or not? I'm like,
I'm not sure how to judge that. And they're like, hey, man,
just be on the lookout. Man. He's like, you never know.
He's like, it's hard to judge, Like they asked us
to come up here and like, and Maurice was like, man,
I had no problem doing it. You know, I get
to come back, you know in the spring time and
all that, see my alma mater. But he's like, but
we also didn't know like if we said no, like

(31:57):
what does that mean for us? Like it was one
of those like involuntary workout type things that you typically
have where you're like, it's involuntary or you know it's voluntary.
They'll say, excuse me, but it's not. It's more involuntary,
and so they're just like, nah, we think you made
the right choice. I was like, okay, all right, but
you never know. I mean, that's the hard thing is

(32:18):
these these dinners, they're really just trying to get to
know who you are. And it's way more laid back
because they've got to spend probably a couple of hours
with you, as opposed to others where it's like, you know,
you're not really sure. Like when I went to Washington
and I visited Levar's old employer and now Commandos, there
was a group of prospects together, so it was kind

(32:40):
of a mix of players together and so they're more
looking for how you intermingle or mix with the other guys.
You know, what you'd be like with a teammate with
the other guys. And so it all depends on what
the setup is for that specific dinner. But I'm sure
they're going to try to pick Camboard's brain, how he operates,
how he thinks, His background is history, like the adverse
he's been through, how he's fought through it, all those things,

(33:02):
the questions he's got to answer.

Speaker 6 (33:04):
Yeah, you got to take into consideration the behavior of
those those franchise people as well. You know, that's that's
kind of like they treat it almost like it's a
safe environment. You know, it's like an inside. It's their
created environment. So you see, you see characteristic traits and

(33:28):
you see behaviors from them where you could equally ask
the same question to the prospect.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, like what if you didn't want to go there
and so you just sabotaged yourself and just got throttled.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
But it's not even about sabotaging yourself. It's about this
is a getting to know one another process. And I
could tell you honestly, when I did visit with with
the then Skins, that ended up drafting me. Now the commanders,
you know Dan Snyder was he he had like he

(34:01):
was vulgar like with some of the things that he
was saying, and it was kind of it was like
I didn't really know how to handle it, you know,
like I didn't really know how not not handle it,
handle it as strong word not I didn't know how
to comprehend how he was communicating.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
What was he saying?

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Then it doesn't I'm not going to get into all
of that, but but the idea of it was it's
like dang bruh, like you own this team, like what
like you said what like you know? But but again
so it's not as though you got it like this
whole perfect, perfect type of pristine type of movement. Like

(34:43):
when they talk about the owner that was talking about
Cam Newton, I want him to be.

Speaker 7 (34:46):
He you know, he's tall or he's beautiful, and I
want him to be a fine man. Whatever it was
he was using, I want to describe.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
You don't remember the owner saying what he wanted to
where he thought about how Cam Newton looked and now
he wants one of them to look It was like
did it like there was a sound.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Bite of it was this Jerry Richardson.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
That's the older dude that passed didn't pass away or
whatever he sold the team.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Can you look at it?

Speaker 6 (35:12):
What did Jerry richards He said something about how he
wanted him to look and when I look at him,
this is what I think and stuff like.

Speaker 7 (35:20):
That was kind of it was awkward like that to
even but.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
It sounds very awkward. Sounds like I don't remember that. No,
I remember something of the sort. But it sounds like
the the old old school draft if you know, you.

Speaker 6 (35:33):
Know, I could dig I could dig it, but I
could definitely dig it.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
But but yikes.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
I just all I know is is that so when
you're talking about when you're talking about behavior that could
be a turn off to you know, the organization into
the representatives.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Them guys are trying to like getting good.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
With you, you.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Know, like hey man, and what's going on like depending
on I'm I'm assuming depending on them trying to be
relatable to the player, they.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Gonna come at you a certain type of way.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
And that's that's you know, I think that's pretty interesting
because they might have misjudged me. You know, I might
I might look this way, but I do have very
conservative ways of doing things. Man, don't don't like, don't
come try to hit me up with with the black
hand shake, you know what I mean, like the black
hand man, you know, like, don't don't try to hit

(36:27):
me with the soul brother hand, Like shake my hand?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 7 (36:30):
Like? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
You know, like twist and the thumb and that.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
If I know you, if I know you and that's how.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
We vibe, then that's how we vibe. But if I
don't know you, like you shake my hand, I'll shake
your hand, I'll look you in your eyes. We're on
a business. This is business. This isn't personal, So don't
come that way.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
As Dan Schneider flew me to Washington purely to hear
the story that I told Coach Gibbs and those guys
in the room about doing the bench press tests at
the Combine, like that was the only reason they flew
me in there to visit. I'm pretty sure, I mean
outside again of doing their due diligence.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
So which I'm sure he wanted to look at you too.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Well, that might have been part of it, but he
wanted the first time I got in there, I basically
went right up to his office and he was like,
all right, so let me hear this story. I'm like, oh,
all right.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Basically, I was being badger to the bench press test
and I called my agent, Tom Condon, who was like,
a bird's I think they'd be a bad idea. Uh,
you could blow out your peck. You know, you got
to pro day the next week. I think that would
be a very smart decision if you did that. And
then I called Charlie Weiss, and Charlie Weiss goes, here

(37:49):
one dumb mother effort.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
If you're gonna go out there and pitch, you know,
for a smart kid, you could say some really dumb
f and stuff.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Sometimes you dumb. And I was just like, okay, I
think I don't even know if I said bye. I
think I just hung up. And then I looked at that.
I looked at the scout, and the scout goes what
he said, go, he's not a fan either. I was like,
but I'm gonna do it because I'm also kind of,
you know, bored right now, we're not really doing much,
so and then that's how we did it, and that
was in essence the story. And I'm like, you went

(38:21):
like what's that you went and did the bench press.

Speaker 5 (38:25):
Foread and some dress clothes.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
It was. It was all because the area of Scout
who was taking us around was the Denver Broncos Area
Scout and he was like pumping me up the whole morning.
I said, dude, I'm not doing this, like I'm not
doing anything here this week. I've got a pro day
next week. I'm gonna try to do all I can
at that. And I don't know if I told him
about my knee or not, but I was like, I'm
not really one hundred percent. So I was trying to like.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
You dumb.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
You know, for a smart kid, you could be pretty
f and stupid sometimes. And I was just like, I've
heard this before. Yeah, And so then I was like, oh, bro,
I got I got chewed out one time we were
coming from and mind you, back then, you would go
do a pregame mass at the Basilica Notre Dame, and

(39:16):
usually Father Doyle, who was our team chapelain, he would
he would do it and you get you know, you
go on and you walk through this kind of procession
that would that would snake to the stadium and I
remember I think we were playing North Carolina and it
must have been my senior year, but it was one
of those times where like the weather was turning and
Henry Scroop, who was our equipment manager, had had asked

(39:37):
me at some point in time. I don't know if
it was Thursday or Friday. He's like, hey, what kind
of socks would you want to wear for the game?
And I had said to him, I go, I don't,
I don't know, I don't really care. I mean, I
don't know. I think the long blue ones are pretty
dope for you know, if that's.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
What we're wearing.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
And I just kind of like in passing, and so
we we go, you know, go to Mass We're walking
through like you get through the crowd. You see family friends,
people were getting fired up, and we're like, yeah, let's go.
You know, we're getting in that locker room kind of
getting fired up before pregame warm ups and and all
I'm here is uh, someone grabs me like, hey, coach
wants to see you. I was like okay, And so

(40:13):
I walk into Coach's office and he just sits down.
He goes, who the F do you think you are?

Speaker 6 (40:20):
You?

Speaker 4 (40:21):
All of a sudden, they are making decisions about our uniforms.
You're the guy it's gonna be. And I'm like, I'm
like what. I'm like, I'm like, what did I do?
And so he probably lay on based me for about
I don't know, three minutes straight. He's like, no, no,
don't talk, don't say a word, don't say an F word,
and he just kind of cusses me out. So I
kind of walk out and then I walk over my

(40:41):
locker and I'm like, oh, I hadn't been the long socks.
That's the only thing that could come to mind.

Speaker 7 (40:46):
So he was just he was just he was growing you.
That's all. He loved me. That's that's that love relationship there.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
I don't I don't know. I think I sometimes what
coach would do is, you know, that was a team
that we were expected to be. We're wanted to be
the mother effort, and I think he didn't want us
to get too loose, even though like, yeah, our teams
the last two years with him, we played our best
football when we were loose. It was like the games

(41:14):
when we were tight is when we didn't. And that
was where like players have a better feel for that
than coaches do oftentimes. But anyway, there was plenty of
those conversas.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
He had a feel for it though, when y'all played
loose or whatever, whatever he was trying to achieve, he
had a feel for it. It's interesting because if I
were coaching you, I probably had the same relationship with you.
It'd probably be the same exact way. That's his way
of challenging you, because chances are he's probably not smarter
than you, so I'm not going to try to outsmart you.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
I'm just going he actually got in a Notre Dame
as a student, so he definitely is.

Speaker 6 (41:47):
I don't know, bro, you're a pretty smart dude. I
don't know anyway. I'm just saying I would challenge you
in those ways, but I would challenge you differently as well,
because I'd be sitting there like I gotta I gotta
check his poll. Let me check your pulse, because you
could be too good for your own good sometimes that's
what you know. That's what they say about them cats
like how you are. They could be too good for

(42:10):
their own self at times. So I would have challenged
you the same exact way. Obviously it worked, you know,
shots out the coach wise, shots out to you, wherever
you're at. Yeah, Shots out to you, you know what
I mean, to all the coaches out there that challenge
their guys to be more than what they even maybe even.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Thought they could have been. Shots out to all the
coaches out there.

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Speaker 2 (42:40):
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Speaker 3 (42:56):
What's happening? Good morning? Hello? Hello everybody?

Speaker 7 (42:59):
Hello, good morning?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
How you doing sir? Hello?

Speaker 7 (43:02):
Hello Peter? Was that hello? Pepete?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Hello Brady?

Speaker 4 (43:07):
Hello Brady?

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Petros?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Do you know anything about Mookie Betts's illness that caused
him to drop twenty something pounds?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
And no?

Speaker 8 (43:21):
But it's really upsetting, right, I Mean, the guy's been
six since before they left for Japan. He said he
was afraid to eat food. He said his body was
eating itself. Dang, yeah, that's uh, that's and he wasn't
a big guy to begin with, you know what I mean.
Like being down on the field all the time with
the Dodgers is interesting because you get to realize why

(43:44):
there's so many idiot baseball dads out there, because it's
really one of the only sports, I mean most sports, football, basketball,
the sports that we talk about. When you get to
be twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen and you're like an elite player,
you got to pass the eyeball test, like you got
to walk in the door and look like Brady Quinn

(44:06):
or LaVar Arrington. I mean, there's not a lot of
football players that just look like normal guys, you know.
And same with basketball. I mean a lot of basketball
players only look normal on a basketball court. Any other place,
they look like a freak, like a circus act. But baseball,

(44:26):
you could look like a normal kind of guy and
to have a slight build like Mookie Betts or Trey
Turner or guys like that and be the best in
the world. So there wasn't a lot of weight for
the guy to lose anyway, And being down there with
those guys, you kind of realized, like, not all these
guys are like that physically impressive.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Now.

Speaker 8 (44:49):
They added Freddie Freeman a couple of years back, and
I was like, damn, now this guy's really big. And
then they brought in Otani, and Otani's a freaking giant.
But Mookie Bets is not a big guy, and there
wasn't a lot of weight to lose, and apparently it
was just a really bad scene.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Now he's back.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
I think he played yesterday in the exhibition, so he'll
be back on Thursday. But he lost a bunch of
weight and he got really sick. It had nothing to
do with Japan or gas station sushi in Japan or whatever.
People were what Mambo alleging because he got sick before
before they went.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I think it was David Vasse asked him, you know,
because Mookie had mentioned, you know, we know what it
was and what to avoid, and so the follow up
obviously was so what was it? And he said, we're
just going to keep that in house. So just the
whole thing's weird, Like, I don't, you can't, really nobody
can figure out what the hell was going on.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Do you think it's like a tapeworm? I don't know,
or a hook a hookworm?

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Does that take twenty five pounds off you?

Speaker 8 (45:53):
Well, it's like we've heard twenty five pounds, we've heard
twenty pounds.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
It's eighteen pounds.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
Okay, So and who knows, it could be coming back
on him right now as we speak. His opening day
is tomorrow and we'll all be out of Dodger Stadium.
So yeah, I'm sorry that Mookie Bets got sick, but
I expect that he's going to be.

Speaker 7 (46:15):
Okay, mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Fair.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
Speaking of opening day, what's the festivity's going to be? Like,
I mean, it's going to be a big one.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Pe You're going.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
What are we going on?

Speaker 8 (46:28):
Well, there's a guy, there's bartender Brad at Dodger Stadium,
like one of these bougie bartenders in like the elite
area where you can go and drink and you know,
like the club house or whatever they call it.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
Like there's always something.

Speaker 8 (46:43):
Dodger Stadium or baseball in general, or any nice stadium
has become a lot like uh like Vegas, where no
matter what you have, no matter how much money you
have spent to be VIP, there's something better. Like you

(47:04):
might have this wristband, but there's another wristband that's even
more special, where you are in like a jacuzzi being
pilated by a dolphin. You know, it's like, do you
know what I'm saying. It's like and baseball is kind
of like that. So there's this one, uh, there's this
one bar at Dodger Stadium that's really nice, and this

(47:26):
bartender comes and makes us meetch a loatas from that
bar and delivers them at Dodger Stadium to wherever we
Matt and I are. But on opening day we're down
on the field, so we can't drink down in front
of everybody, like with a big, gross red michalada while
you're interviewing you know, Stan Kastan or Andrew Friedmanner or

(47:50):
Max Munci or bowing at Otani. So it is a
little more complicated than when we usually are there. But
we usually get one big mich alata and they bring
tim kaits a spicy margarita, and.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
We usually got spicy marg.

Speaker 8 (48:08):
So we go from there, and that's usually the case,
but on opening day we'll be down on the field,
so the festivities are a little less. I think you
guys would be not shocked to realize like, I don't
know how long am five seventy the blowtorch here in
LA has had the Dodger contract. It's been lucrative, of

(48:29):
course for them, but I think it's been about twelve years.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
And I mean they used to send.

Speaker 8 (48:36):
Us out there three games in a row during homestands,
and we used to.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Spend a lot of time.

Speaker 8 (48:43):
And now that the Dodgers are so popular, they don't
need us as much as they used to.

Speaker 7 (48:49):
Well, the Lakers need you.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
I mean, they seem to have been doing pretty well
and well Brownie James since we've talked, LAS has proven
all of the critics wrong and has put everybody in
their place and has made everybody's you know, the believer
of the Bronnie James legend that is starting to now
take shape.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
What's your take on that?

Speaker 7 (49:12):
Now?

Speaker 6 (49:12):
Are people more interested in going to Lakers games and
watching the wells?

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Now?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
The Lakers or any.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
NBA franchise has priced everybody out a long long time ago,
So real Laker fans or whatever kind.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Of I mean, that's just not the NBA anymore.

Speaker 8 (49:32):
As far as going to the games, it's it's way
too expensive. As far as the Bronnie James has proven
everybody this or that. I'm not really there, but I'm
glad that they had a wonderful article written.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
About him in the Athletic and and then.

Speaker 8 (49:49):
He got out there in a blowout game, and then
you know, the CHI League, we get to follow what's
going on there. I'm sure those games are very popular.
But Norony James thing. It went away for a while
because the Lakers were playing so well and then they
started to lose again and Lebron got hurt or took

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his march off or whatever. Just the media orchestration around
anything regarding Lebron James, what happens before, during, and after
the way all their media people get mobilized. It's I
just I don't even like to talk about it anymore.
But speaking about basketball, I did go for the very

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first time in my life to the Into It Dome
the Clippers.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, Friday night.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
I think it's amazing.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
I had to go for Toyota to do a like
a They don't call it like a sales event anymore.
To do you know what they call if you go
to like an event where they have like activation division. Yes,
that's right, you go.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Don tell me this much petros. Why do they change
the names for things that have always existed, Like back
in the day, if you did a deal with a
corporate sponsor, it's just it's just a marketing deal.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Right now we call it it's a nil.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
It's your name, image and likeness, Like what, why do
we need to coin a phrase for something that's always existed.

Speaker 8 (51:12):
I mean, Don Martin changed a big our old boss,
you know. I mean when you used to have salespeople
or whatever, they would call.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Them a.

Speaker 8 (51:21):
You know, clients, right, like Toyota is a client, but
you know what they are.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Now partners, We're partner. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (51:31):
They always change the names for things to make things
seem cooler, right.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Or more complex or more more.

Speaker 8 (51:40):
I don't know, innovative than they really are. But it
was speaking of innovative and you guys know this. I
mean I hate everything. I mean I really don't. I
don't like anything like i'm I'm. The word hater was
was literally created for me and I am when they

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opened Staples Center. I was there when it opened and
we were all part of the media and the whole deal,
and it to me, it just seemed like a big,
stupid looking Marriott. I wasn't impressed when they opened Staples
and everybody thought it was the media center of the world,
and it was these have events every single night. But

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the Into a Dome is everything they said. Now, parking
for seventy dollars is too much. I don't care where
you're supposed to be parking for what's happening. Seventy dollars
is too much to pay to park. But it had
to be the best, the best venue I've ever been
at for anything.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Ever. It's a spaceship.

Speaker 8 (52:47):
It's like when you remember how geeked up you were
to be on Space Mountain as a kid. Oh yeah,
this is how the Into a Dome feels. Every single
chair is like a movie theater chair with a controller.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
That's in like a holster, and you can order your food.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
Yeah, all that stuff, but then just the weird in
game stuff like that controller you realize serves as a
light that changes red, white, and blue and is part
of like a light show in the whole stadium. Anytime
anything happens, he's weird, like it looks like a drone show,
and you realize like your seat is doing that too,

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And of course just the grade of the building. You know,
it doesn't feel like Staples of the Rose Bowl where
you're super.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Far away from everything.

Speaker 8 (53:37):
And I know the Clippers aren't popular, and god they
don't have a fifty fifth pick that has been forced
into the league that we have to monitor in the
G League and during garbage time.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
But at the same time, I have never seen.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
Anything like this stadium and just getting in, getting out,
all the food and all the different stuff. It really
is the future. And I was, I was wildly impressed
with how they built it and and and what it is.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Now.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
I know it's the Clippers, and I know they ruined
Englewood and there's terrible traffic and all this different stuff,
but man, I was, I was really impressed with that stadium.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Well, what's a little more what's a little more bad
traffic in LA you know, just to heap it on
top of the rest of it. Petros, I want to
get back to the hating portion of things. Yeah, okay, sure,
only because one of the things that's come up of
the course of March Madness is some of the coaches
who are in the Sweet sixteen had the portal's open
in men's basketball, and it's like they're they're having to

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discuss while they're still trying to make a national championship run,
how they're going to manage their roster in that time.
It is college sports at like an old time, just
crazy point in time as to how this whole thing
is working, and that includes a football everything else in
your mind.

Speaker 8 (55:01):
Well, the double portal is a real problem for everybody
in football because you don't really know. It's caused a
lot of people to not want to have spring games
or close down their spring practice because they don't want
some player that they didn't expect that came up and
did well to get poached and they already try to

(55:23):
deal with that rumors wise.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
And the problem is some.

Speaker 8 (55:27):
Schools are on the quarter system, some schools are on
semester systems. It's really hard to sync up Stanford and
Michigan State, you know, it always has been in the world.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Of college football.

Speaker 8 (55:41):
That being said, yeah, this is an issue to one
of the other things that bothers me. I mean, these
coaches are having to deal with the portal and all
that stuff no matter what. And in college basketball, timing
wise and football, if you have a lot of success,
your season isn't over. You have to deal with all

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kinds of logistics that you probably shouldn't while you're still
coaching and competing because of just how long the calendar
takes if you have success. One of the things that
I found interesting is that everybody, you know, Colorado State
lost on a last second shot.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
If they didn't, they'd be the only mid major in there, right, correct?

Speaker 7 (56:25):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 8 (56:27):
Because no one wants to call Arkansas with Callip Perry
as the coach to be the to be a Cinderella.
I mean you can't. You can't say that even though
they're a ten seed. So there's no more George Mason
or VCU or anybody like that. And you have these

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sports writers lamenting that, oh god, Nil ruined college basketball.
It's like, these are the same sports writers that we're
all screaming for Nil like, and now they're oh, this sucks.
It's like, well, guys, I mean, who do you think
has the money to pay the players? The major conferences

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and the bigger schools in particular the SEC, and they
have what seven teams or something in the sweet sixteen.
So it's funny because we talk about all this progress
that we need to make in college sports, and we
lawed the abandoned brothers and the lawsuit that got everybody paid,
and I think it's great too, I'm not saying one

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thing or another. And then the results of that happen,
the transfer portal and all these different things, and everybody
stands up and screams and yells and wants to complain
about it. I mean, we created this complex situation by
putting revenue sports inside our institutions of higher education, and
then we sit here and whine about all the incongruities

(57:51):
and the billion dollar industry that we built. So it's
kind of interesting. It's interesting to watch it all play out.
But the same people that screen for players to be
paid are the same people lamenting the fact that we
don't have any mid majors or teams like that in
the tournament. It's like, which way do you want it?
You can only have the red sauce or the green sauce.

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You can't have them both at the same time. You
a holes, But it's kind of the nature of the sport.
And then the real travesty of the whole thing is
the people making the billions of dollars on these TV
deals are still not allowed to pay the players legally
that's not who's paying them. It's still the alums that
want to be cool to hang out with athletes. And

(58:36):
it's not really nil, it's pay to play. And so
we have so many issues. I almost want to talk
about Bronny instead, but no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
I really thought I was transitioning from something you didn't
want to talk about to something you wanted to talk about.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
No, I mean, but I talked about it, right, Brady.
I mean that's you know, I mean it.

Speaker 8 (58:58):
It is very interesting because guys, we are in a
brave new world of college sports, and the one thing
that really doesn't sync up for the major revenue sports,
football and hoops is the portals, and it just it
really doesn't work for anybody, and it's dramatically altered the
calendar of the sport, and it's a lot harder for

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these guys to do their job.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
You know, Maryland, but go, you want to go. I
thought this was pretty appropriate. You know Maryland basketball. You know,
they had that game winning shot that you know got
them to the next round. They play tomorrow against number
number one Florida, and that's a big game for them.
But more importantly, this is a big one for me.

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Asking you this, Petros, do you know Go Go music?
And have you ever heard of the group Mambo Sauce.

Speaker 8 (59:51):
I do not know Mambo Sauce, but I know about
Go Go. I know about the Huckabucks, I know Chuck Brown,
I know the back.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
Her Essence.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
I know about Go Go Sugar Beer.

Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
Yes, Go Go music, for those of you that don't know,
is a special sect of urban music.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Or I guess you say black.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Music and Jonas were out on it, but no clue.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Well no, we were out on Mambo Sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
So did you know Go Go?

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
I've heard of Go Go. I know about Mambo Sauce,
which is the song that was played Go Go. Is
we play the song for Petro? She could play it
for him, she could play she pull it up.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Well what's it called?

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
Maryland football comes out to a Go Go song? They
come out to pure essence. Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
And that's uh.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
You know, Coach Locksley is from the Go Go music
is very it's cool and and this is also something
that I really like is if some music is very
Germane to the area, right, Like you know, if you're
from Chino Hills, you're probably going to be against a rapper,
I must.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Say what I want to know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
And in Bakersfield you listen to Korn.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
Well, Bakersfield has actually the Bakersfield country style, which which
totally changed country music.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Uh maybe like thirty years ago.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Jonas is a rare essence or presence.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Rare Well, I think there's another one too, but rare.

Speaker 7 (01:01:25):
Essence is, Yeah, that's the one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I'm more of a troubled funk guy myself.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
But well, but but go go music is very much
identified with the d m V. Not the not the
motor vehicles, but the the the Capital Virginia, that whole area.
And I like that. I mean we we don't have
enough of that. And in the country, Uh, the Bay
Area it's like that too with high Yeah, the Hyphie

(01:01:54):
music in the Bay Area and mac dre and Andre
Nicotina ghost riding the whip.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Yes, there there you go, Brady.

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
And then I guess you would say down south in Houston, Texas,
they had they had shopped and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Screw screw music, drunk. We wish your house, yes, Michael,
five thousand watts.

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
Uh So I do like rap music that is very
unique to the area. That's not really what go go is,
but it is urban music. I do not know the
band that LeVar is talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Plate it typed in mambo sauce.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
You can't get it is Welcome to d C.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
Well we don't have bad music in the system.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Oh wow, that's so crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:02:46):
But the guy that started Go Go music is a
guy named Chuck Brown Brown. Yeah, so that's the that's
the uh, the guy that was the innovator and you
could purchase that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
They called him. They call him the god the go Go.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
He the guyfather of Go Go and his son played
for Virginia Tech at one point in time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Update by the way, on Pure Essence. Pure Essence was
an R and B band from Cincinnati, Ohio, And yeah
they they had a couple of different labels, but they
haven't really done anything since nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
They do something every Saturday when Maryland takes a field.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Fool.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Well, that's this is not Rare.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Petros is Andre white Boy Johnson your favorite member of Rarest.

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
There you go?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
What does he play the triangle?

Speaker 7 (01:03:42):
There you go?

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
There you go. Pet He's the guy that's mambo sauce
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
This is rap rock.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
I'm sorry, is that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
What is this that's Mambo Sauce.

Speaker 8 (01:04:00):
Oh. Buck Owens is the guy that started the Bakersfield
sound in uh in Bakersfield, the country music and they
had a big theater there called the Crystal Palace.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
I don't know if it's still open.

Speaker 7 (01:04:12):
M You didn't like the song.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
No, well not really. I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 (01:04:20):
It sounded like that Italian band where one of the
guitarists doesn't wear a shirt and it's a.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Chick if you main skin.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
So all I can say if you know, you know,
you know, well, I mean it's Mambo Sauce.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
Yeah, that's the name of the group, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Yeah, maybe a little grow on your pet shows. Keep
listening to it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Yeah, well you know that that that Yellow Ball did.

Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
Yeah yeah, Black Boo Joy, j C. Germaine, Little pet Twink,
what up twin Little Chris?

Speaker 5 (01:04:53):
It's like three eleven.

Speaker 7 (01:04:55):
Yeah, it's bad. I joint go right there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
No, that's really bad.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Go to mambosize band dot com.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
You can book them.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
I gave my show show some love to my cut,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Uh, Petros, I could get your essence on a double bill.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
Jonas you were going to laugh.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
No matter what he says, it's a bad song man,
got some haters.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Hateful people.

Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
Get used to it because it's going to be playing
every second hour forever. I'm never changing it. You don't
get tired of it and change you never to change it.

Speaker 8 (01:05:33):
The best all black rock band of all times is
Living Color.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Hell yeah, with with Vernon Reed.

Speaker 8 (01:05:41):
That was a band and the lead singer used to
wear that sweet spring wetsuit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
Looking what do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:48):
You see, m Yeah, ma, you don't know nothing about that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah, you need Living Color in your life.

Speaker 7 (01:05:55):
You never heard of them?

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
Oh, that's a band now, and the guitarist is one
of the great guitarists of the twentieth century.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Well, and the dude used to wear a rip curl
body gloves spring suit out there.

Speaker 7 (01:06:08):
What the hell is that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Like a wet suit?

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Oh but that was his gear.

Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
But that's how they used to do it, right. Earth
Wind and Fire used to wear the weird ass outfits.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
You know this was a little later than that, but yeah,
it was a little later.

Speaker 6 (01:06:21):
Okay, Yeah, all Stars they used to you know, Brady's
Brady's Hood. They used to wear them tight ass outfits.

Speaker 8 (01:06:29):
Corey Glover is the is the lead singer a Living
Color and he was also an actor.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
He was in Platoon.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Oh nice, is he really?

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
I didn't know that looked in my.

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
Good song. I know that song. Yeah, I know that song.
I didn't know that was a black band. That's a
black band, all black.

Speaker 8 (01:06:52):
Yes, and the best black indie rock band LeVar Is
TV on the radio, except they have one white guy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:05):
Ye'll put me up on some game just now. I
did not know this was a black Now I'm a fan.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
Off top bar.

Speaker 6 (01:07:15):
It kind of got that kind of, uh, you know,
Lenny Kravitz type of feel to it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Sounds this is a real band.

Speaker 7 (01:07:22):
That's dope.

Speaker 8 (01:07:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Petros enjoy opening day. We appreciate it. We'll do it
again next week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
There he is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yes, Petro Babek is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.