The Value Builder Podcast

In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Chris Hershberger—Olympic Taekwondo coach turned wellness consultant—shares what decades of training elite athletes taught him about longevity, self-awareness, and building sustainable systems for high performance. Now coaching entrepreneurs on vitality and healthspan, Chris brings a science-backed, deeply personal perspective on optimizing energy and execution as we age.

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In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Christopher Borden—CEO and co-founder of Rice Capital—shares his journey from C-suite retail executive in Hawaii to building a diversified real estate lending and investing platform. After retiring early, Chris turned his focus to capital preservation, risk-mitigated returns, and giving back—redefining what success looks like after corporate life.

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• How Chris transi...

In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Matthew Drane—founder of Revolt CRE and a veteran sales leader who has worked at multiple national brokerage firms—pulls back the curtain on how commercial real estate really works. With over $500M personally transacted and billions more through teams he’s trained, Matthew shares why the traditional brokerage model is broken—and what comes next for brokers and principals alike.

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In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Kevin Bupp—founder and CEO of Sunrise Capital Investors—shares the long-game mindset behind mobile home park and build-to-rent investing. With decades of experience and multiple funds under management, Kevin emphasizes diversification, investor alignment, and finding joy in the journey.

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• Why pro formas always lie—and how to underwrite with humility

• How to track i...

In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Will Curtis—a United States Army veteran, CCIM designee, and Principal Broker with Crossed Sabers Commercial Real Estate—shares how his background in service and discipline shapes his approach to commercial real estate. Based in San Antonio, Will focuses on office and industrial assets while mentoring the next generation of brokers.

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• What CCIM training actually add...

In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Fred Hubler—founder and CEO of Creative Capital Wealth Management Group—unpacks how the ultra-wealthy actually build and protect wealth. With clients ranging from entrepreneurs to NFL players, Fred specializes in alternative investments that go far beyond the traditional stock-and-bond playbook.

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• Why accreditation opens a “second menu” of investments most never see

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In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Heather Ewing, CCIM—founder and CEO of Abstract Commercial Real Estate in Madison, WI—breaks down how marathon training maps to retail brokerage discipline. Heather specializes in restaurant and retail deals, from regional operators to national brands, and explains what actually drives successful openings in smaller markets.

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• Why restaurant deals are complex—and how...

In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Jonathan Hayek shares how eight years in special education set the foundation for disciplined, long-term success in commercial real estate. Now a managing partner at Endurance Properties, Jonathan focuses on single-tenant, triple-net industrial—and hosts The Source of Commercial Real Estate podcast.

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• How a W-2 can bankroll your first CRE moves—without false urgency

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In this episode of The Value Builder Podcast, Saul Zenkevicius sits down with Zane Schartz, former professional hockey player and founder of Freedom CRE, which manages over $200M in assets with more than 400 investors. Zane shares how the discipline of sports translated directly into commercial real estate success—and why faith and purpose drive his business model today.

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• How competitive discipline transfers from ...

From corporate boardrooms to multifamily boardwalks, John Casmon made the leap from marketing powerhouses like GM and Nike to building a $145M real estate portfolio. In this episode, he shares how transferable skills—when paired with clarity, consistency, and confidence—can drive massive value.

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• Why real estate isn’t passive until you treat it like a business

• How John scaled from duplexes to 100+ unit deals

• Th...

This episode, Saul sits down with Daniel Breslin, founder of Diamond Equity Investments and host of the REI Diamonds Show, to unpack how he went from addiction and rock bottom to building a $57M+ direct-to-seller powerhouse across multiple markets. Dan shares how faith, marketing discipline, and long-term thinking helped him scale a high-volume operation—without chasing every shiny object.

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• Why Dan reinvested 70%+...

This episode, Saul sits down with Michael Bull, founder of Bull Realty and host of America’s Commercial Real Estate Show, to unpack what it really takes to market, position, and sell commercial properties in any cycle. With over $8B in transactions and 35+ years in the business, Michael shares hard-won lessons on integrity, REO workouts, and why thunder marketing beats trickle tactics every time.

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• Why big firms of...

This episode, Saul sits down with Shea Lewis of Z Equity Group for a deep dive into why small bay industrial might be the most overlooked asset class in commercial real estate—and how the right mix of velocity, zoning constraints, and tenant diversity make it primed for long-term value. Shea shares his personal journey from data centers to self-storage to small bay, breaking down the real math behind lease-up, demand, and why big c...

This episode, Saul sits down with Slava Menn of Good Harbor CRE for a behind-the-scenes look at transitioning from residential to commercial real estate—and what it really takes to scale with clarity, grit, and relationships. Slava shares war stories from Boston permitting battles to copper theft in Houston, revealing the mindset shifts that helped him go from co-living to $60M in assets under management.

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• Why pol...

This episode, Saul sits down with Grant Reaves, co-founder of Stoic Equity Partners, to explore the strategies behind scaling a $100M+ small bay industrial portfolio across the Southeast. From buying below replacement cost to navigating adaptive reuse and market overbuild cycles, Grant shares how stoic philosophy shapes both his investment decisions and leadership style.

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• Why small bay industrial remains underbuil...

This episode, Saul sits down with Alina Trigub to explore how busy professionals can harness real estate investing to reduce taxes, build passive income, and create generational wealth. Alina shares her journey from Big Four accounting and IT leadership into full-time commercial real estate—and breaks down the mindset shifts that helped her make the leap with confidence.

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• Why W-2 earners are missing out on major t...

This episode, Saul sits down with Jaime Contreras to unpack what it really takes to build trust, negotiate win-win deals, and play the long game in commercial real estate. Jaime shares how the pandemic forced a pivot from hospitality to retail and industrial investing—and how his background in service shaped a relationship-first approach that sets him apart in the world of seller-financed deals.

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• Why seller financ...

This episode, Saul sits down with Brad Chandler—real estate investor, entrepreneur, and transformation coach—to talk about the real source of growth, both in business and in life. Brad shares the story of his personal awakening, how it reshaped his health, wealth, and relationships, and why your biggest breakthroughs have nothing to do with spreadsheets or hustle.

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• Why childhood beliefs still run the show—and how ...

This episode, Saul sits down with Nikita Zhitov to explore what it really means to be a real estate developer in today’s market. Nikita challenges the myth of passive income, sharing why development is a full-contact sport that requires time, risk, and hands-on vision. From creative deal structures to mindset shifts, he walks through the beliefs and behaviors that separate operators from speculators.

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• Why true dev...