The Business Game

The Business Game

The Business Game, A Podcast That Moves The Needle Ready to level up your business and leadership game? The Business Game, A Podcast That Moves The Needle - brings you unfiltered business insights, startup stories, and scaling strategies from global leaders, founders, and innovators who’ve built thriving companies. Hosted by Steve Plummer and Kalena Stano, each episode dives into real-world case studies, growth tactics, and leadership lessons that reveal what it takes to win in today’s competitive business landscape. Whether you’re a small business owner, startup founder, or corporate innovator, you’ll walk away with actionable tools to grow smarter, lead stronger, and scale faster. New episodes drop every Thursday and Saturday on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio and all major platforms. Watch video episodes on YouTube and explore more at thebusinessgamepodcast.com

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January 22, 2026 48 mins

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When David Socha was broke and outbid at the last minute, one integrity-driven decision turned disaster into over $1M in free advertising and ultimately saved the company.

David Socha has been in business for over 30 years, building Beverly Hills Teddy Bear Company into a global plush powerhouse. In this conversation, David shares the early near-collapse that became a breakthrough, when a competitor outbid him for a ra...

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The Industrial AI Advantage Nobody Explains is the conversation every fintech leader needs right now, because the next wave is not just AI, it is what happens when security, compliance, and real world impact collide.

Arthur Miller is a fintech leader with a rare background. He started in military intelligence and national defense research, then moved into the private sector to build and scale secure systems, including ...

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She stopped chasing viral trends - and that’s when the real growth began.

Join us for this unmissable flashback episode of The Business Game featuring Kennedy Logan, founder of Soboard Socials, as she breaks down the real strategies behind sustainable social media growth.

In this powerful conversation, Kennedy shares proven techniques to help you:

* Skyrocket brand awareness without burning ...

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The Unsexy Business That Went Viral on Shark Tank, proves you do not need a trendy industry to build a scalable company, you need systems, clarity, and the courage to keep going when it gets messy. 

Susan Toft, founder and CEO of The Laundry Lady, sharing how she scaled a simple service into a platform powered business with nearly 500 contractors across Australia and New Zealand and a growing presence in Canada.

Susan w...

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The “Industrial AI” Advantage Nobody Explains, Dave Howden explains why casual AI use is not enough and how businesses create real advantage by pairing AI with their IP.

In this episode of The Business Game, Dave Howden from SupaHuman AI shares a clear, strategy-led view of industrial AI and how organizations are using it to reduce cost, increase speed, and improve quality at the same time.

We discuss why most AI adopti...

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Justin Lund shares the exact mindset and delegation shifts that took him from $200K a year to $5M in profit per month, without burning out or working more hours.

Justin Lund joins The Business Game to break down the identity shifts founders must make to scale without getting trapped inside their business.

We dive into Justin’s Freedom Flywheel—a framework for sustainable growth built on doing less, leveraging systems, a...

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In this Flashback Episode of The Business Game, hosts Jamie and Dan revisit a standout conversation with Joshua Altman, founder of Beltway Media, to unpack the psychology behind messaging that sells versus messaging that quietly kills trust and conversions.

Joshua, a fractional Chief Communications Officer, explains how behavioral science and analytics shape perception in both B2B and B2C communication. From brand trus...

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In this episode of The Business Game, hosts Steve Plummer and Lisa DeAngelis sit down with Steven Woods, founder and CEO of Stirlingshire, to unpack how the financial system really works and why many everyday investors feel left behind.

Steven shares his journey from Kansas City to Wall Street, walking away from a lucrative advisory career with no safety net, and the hard lessons he learned along the way, including wha...

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December 25, 2025 14 mins

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What if the best leadership advice isn’t to lead at all?

In this episode of The Business Game, we explore a powerful, counterintuitive approach to leadership, leading from the bottom, prioritizing connection over content, and having the hard conversations most leaders avoid.

Our guests share why leadership isn’t about hierarchy or ego, how avoiding small issues creates big problems, and why servant leadership builds str...

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Your Sales Team Isn’t the Problem. Your Leadership Is - and in this episode, Drew Norton breaks down why almost every stalled business comes back to the person at the top.

Join The Business Game, A Podcast That Moves The Needle as we sit down with business coach and co-founder of The Everyday Leader, Drew Naughton. 

From leading yourself before you lead anyone else, to fixing broken sales teams and t...

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This ONE shift saves $1M+ by owning your tech stack instead of renting SaaS tools in real estate.  

In this episode, we sit down with Christopher Wise, President of Wise Capital, to explore how owning your tech stack, building in-house proptech, and using AI, IoT and predictive maintenance can transform Class C multifamily and affordable housing. 

From his background in Naval Special Warfare and law, to buildi...

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Leadership Expert Dave Clare Reveals Why "Growth" Is Actually KILLING Your Business

Join The Business Game, A Podcast That Moves The Needle. In this episode, they sit down with leadership expert and Circle Leadership CEO Dave Clare to talk honestly about what modern leadership really takes. Dave shares why “growth at all costs” and hustle culture burn out good people, how to line up culture, strateg...

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How to Escape the 80-Hour Work Week: Kirsten Graham's Outsourcing System

Join hosts Kalena Stano and Steve Plummer on The Business Game, a podcast that moves the needle as they sit down with Kirsten Graham, co-founder of Six Figure Business Coaching. They uncover the outsourcing strategies that transform overwhelmed entrepreneurs into empowered business owners. Kirsten reveals why burnout is optional, ho...

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Join hosts Steve Plummer and Kalena Stano on The Business Game, A Podcast That Moves The Needle. 

In this episode, they sit down with 40-year sales veteran Walter Crosby, CEO of Helix Sales Development and host of the Sales and Cigars podcast, to unpack what truly separates elite sales performers from the rest. From surviving 400 cold calls a day in New York City commercial real estate to building high-performing sales...

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From living in his car to running a multi-million dollar PR agency, here's how JJ Carter turned credibility into cold, hard cash.

Join hosts Kalena Stano and Steve Plummer on The Business Game, a podcast that moves the needle, as they sit down with JJ Carter, founder and CEO of GLDN PR. Learn JJ's proven strategies for getting featured in top publications like Forbes, Business Insider, and major pod...

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What if you could charge 40% more than your competitors and only work 90 minutes per week in your business?

Join hosts Steve Plummer and Lisa DeAngelis on The Business Game, a podcast that moves the needle, as they sit down with Vance Morris, ROI specialist and founder of the Deliver Service Now Institute. Vance reveals how he transformed Disney's world-class customer experience systems into a blueprint ...

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What if the key to exponential business growth isn't working harder, but releasing the baggage holding you back?

Join hosts Kalena Stano and Steve Plummer on The Business Game, a podcast that moves the needle, as they sit down with Curtis McCullom, founder of Bespoke Human Potential Coaching and former #1 sales performer worldwide. Curtis reveals his transformative approach to mindset coaching, NLP (neur...

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From business collapse to coaching builders toward $10M, Greg Wilkes knows what it takes to scale without the burnout.

Join hosts Kalena Stano and Steve Plummer on The Business Game, a podcast that moves the needle, as they sit down with Greg Wilkes, CEO of Develop Coaching and bestselling author. If you're a builder, trader, or construction business owner struggling to step off the tools, this episode i...

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What if one simple strategy could unlock $700,000 in hidden revenue you're leaving on the table right now?

Join hosts Steve Plummer and Kalena Stano on The Business Game, A Podcast That Moves The Needle, as they sit down with business growth strategist and certified AI consultant Stacey Hylen. Stacey reveals how entrepreneurs can uncover hidden profits, scale without burnout, and build businesses that su...

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Struggling to scale your business without sacrificing your freedom? This episode changes everything.

Join hosts Kalena Stano and Steve Plummer on The Business Game, a podcast that moves the needle, as they interview Ryan Cassin, co-founder of Superpowers and author of "Superpowered." Learn how to hire executive assistants, scale your business with Filipino virtual assistants, and achieve freedom and...

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