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April 20, 2025 34 mins
Dean Sharp continues his makeover magic by taking listener calls and offering solutions to preserve the charm of historic homes—like an 1882 farmhouse looking for the perfect specialty door. He explores creative, cost-effective ways to upgrade your space, from reimagining window trims to adding feature walls that pack a design punch. Dean wraps the hour by encouraging listeners to lean into creativity over cost when it comes to transforming their homes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:23):
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(00:46):
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Design house Whisper Dot designed to get more information. All right,
we are talking home makeovers today, but we've still got

(01:08):
a couple of calls left, and it's the top of
the hour, so I never want to ignore our callers.
Let me go to the phones. See what we can
do for Ron. Hey, Ron, welcome home.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Meean.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I just wanted to tell you that you have a
fantastic show. I've been thank you contactor for about fifty
years and all the design, electrical design, things that you
talk about are spot on. So I just wanted to congratulate.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
You on that.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Thank you, my friend, Thank you so much. How can
I help you today?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Okay, I have an old farmhouse that was built.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Back in eighteen eighty two, and so it was very
dangerous for us to start in the bathroom to remodel.
And the reason for it is because it morphed. It
morphed from room to room.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
And well, you know if the remodeling virus, the remodeling
virus was not properly contained.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
No, it was not.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Because we said, well we're already in the neighborhood, we
might as well move the kitchen over here. We might
as well redo these ceilings completely. So make a long
story short, I'm trying to keep the house as period
looking as I possibly can.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Now we've opened up all the walls.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
We've taken your suggestion of putting lockwolf throughout everything. We
have it on the exterior, we have it on all
the interior walls. We have separated room so one room,
as you called it would be the pollor so we
could parley. And it has no TV in it, nothing

(03:01):
the media room. So we've taken all your design sggestions
throughout the years that I've listened to your program. But
now the question is we're under a time crunch. We've
been doing it at the speed of cash, which has
been slow, but uh, we've gotten to a point where

(03:25):
now we're trying to get everything done.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
And the question came up with doors.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Now, we did put in a couple of pocket doors,
we haven't we haven't finished them yet. So I wanted
to get the uh the place that you had suggested
in one of your other shows of where to get
good hardware.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
For the soft open soft clothes.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
And that the main thing is that my wife and
family are, you know, they want to get back into
the house. So they just want to go out and
buy doors from a local box store and just throw
them in. And I'm saying, well, I'd like to try

(04:11):
to get put those plank doors together, the old style
plank doors with the the blacksmith look, with the hardware
and the heavy hinges and something like that. So now
that I mentioned that I want to build the doors.

(04:33):
The family's going kind of nuts, saying, so we got
to get this thing done, and I think we could
do it relatively quick and inexpensively, and I'm kind of
reaching out for a suggestion from you.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, thanks for putting me in between you and the
ire of direction of your family. I really appreciate that
I had a feeling were buttering me up for something
because you had so you said so many kind things
about listening throughout the years, and now now we find
out what your real agenda is, which is Dean take

(05:12):
the hill.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
It's all true, it's all true. I'm not I'm not
spitting yarn here. You've got a great show and you
put great information out there.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Okay, So here's the thing, Ron, Sure a plank style
door use kiln dried lumber, Okay, because if you don't,
if you use green lumber, if you use wet lumber, uh,
then adds it to dries out inside the house, which
is gonna do. It's gonna warp, it's gonna tweak on you,

(05:42):
and you're gonna pay the price of your family, saying
all right, Gene, yes, why is this door all tweaked out?
So kiln dried lumber, but yeah, you should be able
to put that together with the hardware intact and hold
it together a good old style plank door, give it
the look that you want, and also have a very

(06:07):
very solid, very nicely sound insulated interior, very sexy door.
And you'll be able to do it if you're willing.
And sounds like you're willing for far less than you
would buy anything close to that equivalent look for that door. Okay,
so sure, absolutely, Kiln dride lumber. Take your time. There

(06:28):
are a thousand probably YouTube videos online offering suggestions on
how you would build a plank door, and I would
refer you in that direction and just do your homework
and research. But I'm just going to tell you kill
and dride and I would do this, make this deal.
And I've I've had to do this before, and so
not with my family, but I've had to do it

(06:49):
with clients before, where a client has said where I've
suggested something kind of out of the box to a
client and they're like, I don't know, Dean, I know,
And so I said, Okay, here's the thing. Can we
do this? Give me give me the opportunity to build
a prototype okay, and show you the prototype and then

(07:13):
hand you the receipt from the prototype, and if the
prototype fails to meet your expectations and the cost misses
the target, then will go conventional and we'll just do
the rest of the stuff through out. And you know,
still you're not going to ignore the period. All right,
you got an eighteen eighty three house, you could you

(07:35):
could pick a two three four panel shaker style paint
gray door and nobody would think twice about it, and
it would look great. But still those are not going
to be, you know, super cheap. So I would say this,
cut a deal with your family, say let me build
one door. Let me build a door, and you guys

(07:55):
tell me that you hate it or you love it,
and I'll show you the price tag and then you
you go beat that price for this kind of thing
for the rest of the house, and we'll all decide together.
That's the best advice I can give you, because I
think that's fair. That's fair to everybody.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, now, well they are not that bad. They just
want to get this thing done, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
And if.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
If the Empire State, if the Empire State building was
built in thirteen months from the time that they put
the shovel in the ground, so they topped it out.
You're saying, okay, Ron, it's time right, so we have
to get this thing.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Done right exactly.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
And that was before iPhones, iPads, walkie talkies.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
It's amazing what they could accomplish back then to what
we accomplished today in construction.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
So that is true.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, I always I always look at those old
photos of guys having lunch on an I beam suspended
like thirteen hundred feet above the city streets, thinking geez,
what kind of human being were they back then? Because
those people aren't around today. Ron, I wish you all
the luck. I so thank you. I'm up against a break,
so they're going to start throwing things at me if

(09:11):
I don't go to break here. But I wish you
the best of luck with all of that. Thank you
so much for putting so much confidence in me. I
hope everything thus far has paid off in spades. For
you do a prototype of the door, do it as
quickly and efficiently as possible, and you see where the
family sits with that. And I'm guessing sounds like you're
making all the right moves so far. I'm guessing you

(09:33):
know you're gonna get your plank doors in there, and
everybody's going to be happy for decades to come.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
We're talking about transforming your ordinary house into an extraordinary home.
That's what we do right here every weekend, Saturday morning,
six to eight, Sundays nine to noon. And the specific
angle that we're approaching it today is from the perspective
of makeover, not full remodel, not new build, not even

(10:07):
a full renovation, and more than just decore changes. We're
talking to makeover and makeover kind of slides in that
gray area between renovation and decorating. And what it does
is it yields up if we do it right, we
pick just the right things, it yields up big, big progress,

(10:28):
big changes for relatively small amounts of cash. And that's
kind of where a lot of people are at right now.
Right now, a lot of remodeling dreams on pause because
we don't know what material prices are going to go
with tariffs. We don't there's just a lot of uncertainty
out there right now, and so you can still move
forward with your home by embracing some of the most

(10:51):
efficient and effective modalities when it comes to makeovers, which
by the way, could and should be a part of
the Big Green Model plans anyway. And so just something
to consider as we move along. So we're out of
the bathroom, I want to get into other rooms in
the house. Let's talk about the house in general. One

(11:11):
of the things that you can do to radically change
the interior vibe of your home if you happen to
live and then this is if these are all you know,
if they apply to you kind of situations. So many
folks live in homes where their windows are very plain.

(11:32):
And I don't mean the window itself, not the glass,
not the frame. I'm not commenting on that. What I'm
commenting on is the window opening. If you live in
a home built in the seventies, built in the eighties,
you know, you may find that it's dry wall, and
then the drywall approaches the window and it simply turns
a corner at a ninety degree angle and just runs

(11:54):
into the window. And that's it. That's all that's going
on there. It's a glass opening in the middle of
a dry wall wall. And if your home motif leans
towards something a little bit more traditional, something a little
bit more refined. Then one of the things you can
do to change now without changing the window itself, not

(12:16):
talking about buying a new window, is to finish the
trim of the interior of the window, to trim out
the window. So what that means. It starts with small
pieces of wood that would run around the inside of
that opening up against the window, run around the inside

(12:36):
of that opening to create essentially kind of a jam,
a window jam, and that wood would come out and
it would come all the way out and flush to
the dry wall surface of the wall. And then once
that box, that four sided window jam box has been
created in there, then you can use the front edge
of that box to put casing around that window, and

(13:01):
maybe the bottom piece of that box, depending on the style.
And you can see these styles online. You can just
look up apron and sill. Maybe the lower portion of
that box is actually a sill which extends out a
little bit and maybe even has ears that go out
to the left and the right beyond the window opening itself.

(13:21):
And then you put casey on three sides and maybe
a nice molding underneath, and you have essentially what is
a fully cased sill and apron detailed interior window that
you then paint in accordance with whatever paint directives you've
decided to go with for the room. It's a piece

(13:41):
of trim and molding and detailing that completely changes the
character of a room, any room, maybe every room in
your house. And what are we talking about in terms
of cost? We're talking about small pieces of molding wood,
I mean per window. We're talking about tens of dollars.

(14:04):
That's it, not one hundreds tens of dollars per window
to get this overall perspective and effect. Tens of dollars
in materials and you know, little effort on your part
and elbow grease, but it can make such such a
huge difference. Now, should every house have trimmed out cased

(14:24):
interior windows. Now, it's just but I will tell you
well over half of you who are listening right now
have a house that qualifies for that kind of thing,
that where it would work well. And so this is
why I'm handing out this advice. This is not for
the five percent of homes or ten percent of homes.
It's well over sixty percent of homes would improve the

(14:46):
interior vibe of a room by finishing them out. You
think about it, the door into your room has casing
around it, baseboard at the bottom, it has a wood
jam and all of that. But then you look to
the window and it's just dry wall and glass and
it kind of loses it loses that energy of detail.
You could supply that detail with a little bit of education,

(15:10):
a little bit of elbow grease, and a little patience
and very very little minimal material cost to make a
huge difference. Also in the same keeping new closet doors.
You know, now, maybe you have a small enough room
where you really want glass mirror because the mirror kind of,
you know, enhances the visual vibe of the size of

(15:33):
the room. That's all well and good. But a lot
of you have just inherited sliding closet doors that's just
it's all mirror, it's a bunch of metal. It's all
just kind of some new closet doors. And if you
don't need the mirror space, why not replace those doors
with doors that have paneling to them, doors that have detail,

(15:54):
architectural interesting detail, maybe take you back a little bit,
maybe more traditionalize the room. A new closet door change
out with sliding tracks can make a big difference. And
in the big scheme of things not expensive, not expensive
at all, Okay, And of course in any given room,
a feature wall, a feature wall, paint wise, now I

(16:15):
want to talk about that. On the other side of
the break.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
You are Home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. That's
me and we are here every weekend, every Sunday morning,
from nine to noon, every Saturday morning from six to
eight for one reason and one reason only, to help
you transform your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. I
preach the message that design matters most because it does

(16:48):
and when it comes to saving as much money as
possible and making as large a change as possible to
your home, design absolutely matters most. We got to approach
it creatively because creativity, creativity overcomes limitations, creativity versus cost,

(17:10):
creativity wins every time. And that's where we want to
spend our energies today, because we're talking about makeover solutions
today for those of you who are like feeling not
so confident to just dive headfirst in today's economic environment.
Into the full on remodel or renovation. Maybe we can

(17:30):
make some changes to the house and wait this out,
but changes that really matter, and these are changes that
very very likely you would integrate into your remodel anyway,
but you can get them done now, make some big,
big differences. All right, So we are before the break.
I had touched on the feature wall. The feature wall
is a concept in a bedroom, in any room, in

(17:53):
any room at all, what is the feature wall? What
is this idea? The feature wall, as the general concept
is something that I embrace quite regularly from a design
perspective because it allows you to really go all out
in a room without overdoing it and making the mistake

(18:16):
of wrapping one particular concept all the way around the
room to the point where we find that we're in
that kind of a cave. Okay, a feature wall means,
you know what I've always wanted to put. You know,
I've always wanted to have a room with a library
kind of vibe to it. And unless you absolutely know

(18:38):
for certain that you could lose an entire foot off
of each dimensionality of that room all the way around
on all four walls, and unless you're absolutely certain that
putting bookshelves on all four walls of a room is
not going to create a small kind of book cave environment.

(18:59):
Maybe that's what you love, maybe that's the idea you're
going for. It can be overwhelming. Details can be overwhelming
when there's too many of them, and so as a result,
a lot of people they're unsure and they just back away,
and then the room lacks any detail whatsoever. And this
is where the concept of feature wall or feature walls,

(19:22):
because it could be a couple of walls, just not
all four. But let's just stick with the idea of
the one wall, the one wall in which you are
going to do something bold and bold is so very
awesome in a house. Bold is such a wonderful expression
in a house. And there are very very few circumstances

(19:46):
where I have walked into a home and seen something
bold on a single wall and thought to myself, WHOA,
that's just too much or bad taste or mistake. Nope, No.
Bold feature wall gives you the freedom to really go
for it, because by definition, if it's only one quarter

(20:10):
of the wall space in a room, you're not going
to be doing too much. It's just not going to
be too much and then you can go bold or
go home, okay, or go bold with your home or
in your own Yeah, you get the idea. So that's
really the idea. Now, is this dean saying that when
it comes to paint colors, for instance, that always, always, always,

(20:32):
I should never pick a color other than white and
paint an entire room. No, that's not me saying that
at all. What I'm saying is I think the key
word here is bold. All right, So if you decide, listen,
I've always wanted this very faint pastel canary yellow to
kind of be the theme inside a room. You know

(20:54):
what a light, bright pastel color in a room, Go
for it. You want to paint the kids nursery baby
blue or rose pink, or go for it. That's not overwhelming,
it's not bold, it's light. It's subtle and subtle. Light
things can afford to be on more than one surface.

(21:15):
But if you've always thought, gosh, I love deep purple,
I love this deep roy, I love navy blue, I'm
gonna tell you go for it. Navy blue a wall.
If you navy blue the room, you will be in
a tiny dark box. But you navy blue a wall
the right wall in the right way, and you're gonna

(21:38):
hit it out of the park. It's your room, it's
your home. And the other thing I like about a
feature wall is that it's a feature. Think about that
word feature. In other words, if you walk into an
environment where everything is all the same color, then it's
not a feature. It's just the color of the room.

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But if one wall stands out, it's that room's way
of saying, this is what I'm all about. This is
what I'm all even though the other walls aren't that color.
That's what a feature wall does. It stands in contrast.
It stands essentially as a work of art. It stands
as a statement. And you would think, well, if that's

(22:19):
a statement, painting all four walls as a statement, actually
doesn't work that way. It actually works just the opposite.
It's the contrast from the rest of the house. It's
the contrast from the rest of the room that actually
makes a feature wall the powerful statement that it is.
So whether that's a wall of planked wood or a

(22:41):
wall of sighting, or a wall that is a bold color,
or if it's a wall of bookshelves or a wall
of you know, a full sized photographic mural, which, by
the way, these days is a way of installing wallpaper
that was not available to us just a few years ago.
There are websites you can go to where you can

(23:03):
take imagery of nature. You can take just about any
image imaginable and create a wall sized applicue mural. Do
that in every wall and you're really gonna get vertigo.
But a feature wall, man, it's awesome. It can be
really really awesome, and then let other details compliment and

(23:27):
coordinate and follow along. I wanted to spend an entire
segment talking to you about the concept of a feature wall,
because it's not just paint. It could be anything, and
it's not just a solid universal rule that you can't
ever do a non white paint in a room. It's
about the word bold, and if you are itching to

(23:50):
go bold, do it with a feature wall, as opposed
to spreading it too far and losing impact along the way.
That's I hope you understand. I hope that makes it clear.
This is how we do features. Because remember, architecture, as
I've said so many times before, great art and architecture

(24:11):
is all about what we call hierarchy, meaning when you
take a look at a great piece of art. It
is telling you, whether you realize it or not, where
you should look first. Because some things in that artwork
are more important than other things. They take precedence and priority.
There's a hierarchy of attention, and so the idea of

(24:34):
a feature wall sets up that hierarchy inside a room
in which you look to this wall and you say,
this is the most important hit. But it's not overwhelming me.
It's just captivating me. And that's our goal. If you
find that balance, then you will have, for very very
little money, created a tremendously satisfying space.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
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Easter Sunday morning to you this twentieth of April twenty
twenty five. We are doing well. It is a beautiful,
stunning spring day here in southern California. I hope wherever
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(25:26):
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(26:54):
All right, we are wrapping up just a few makeover
tips and trip. We're just emphasizing the power of makeovers
in order to move your home forward in uncertain financial
times when you may not be ready to pull the
trigger on the big remodel or the big renovation because

(27:14):
of financial uncertainty. Makeover ideas always work. They always yield
far more effect than they cost. And I'm just giving
you some samples and some concepts and some ideas. So
let's do a little lightning round here right at the
end of the show. Do not forget the power of plants.

(27:36):
Plants in your home. This was a thing that for
years and years we just stopped talking about. But now
it's back, and rightly so. It's part of what we
call biophilic design. It is the love of nature, bringing
nature inside your home as much as possible. And if
you say to me, Dean, you don't understand I have

(27:57):
black thumbs, not green thumbs. You know, I get it,
I get it. I understand that. But you know what,
there are some amazing places to resource silk plants as well,
silk flowers or what we call, you know, synthetic flowers
that are so like our friends at Aldick Home. Aldick
is here in southern California, and if you live anywhere

(28:21):
in southern California, you make the trip over there, and
you will find pieces of art, stunning pieces of art
that you will not know are not fully real, fully living.
And the point is, those are the kinds of things
that you invest in, and they last, and they can
make massive, massive difference inside a room, inside of space.

(28:42):
Don't forget plants, your ugly fireplace in the living room. Fireplaces.
You know, I've done whole shows and I will continue
to do whole shows on the problem of fireplaces. I
love them, but in most homes that are built pre
twenty first century, fireplace are in the wrong place in
a room, or they just never get used, and so on.

(29:05):
You've heard me talk about this before if you're a
fan of the show. But fireplaces are the kinds of
things I don't want you to ignore them. That doesn't
mean I need you to light a fire in them,
just don't ignore them. If you take that ugly stained,
sooty firebrick, the dirty fire brick in the back, you
spend ten bucks at the hardware store on some matte

(29:26):
black high heat barbecue paint, and just paint out that
black box, painted out all black, so the soot doesn't
matter anymore. And now it's this beautiful jeweler's cloth backdropped.
Whatever you put in there, and then put something in there,
like those dried flowers, like those silk flowers, like a

(29:49):
living plant, like a whole stack of firewood stacked inside
the fireplace so you see this attractive firewood. Make the
fireplace a feature because it's not going away, and recognize
that it is the elephant in the room that usually
gets ignored. Go ahead and take it for all that

(30:10):
it's worth. Put a candelabra set inside, put pillar candles
in there, put lanterns in there, whatever the case may be.
Make that fireplace everything it possibly can be without tearing
it out or moving it, which might be the plan. Ultimately,
this is just a little bit of cash right up
front to make it ten times as good as it

(30:31):
is right now without doing any major work. If you're
saying to yourself in the living room, listen, Dean, I
either have money enough to get a new flat screen
TV or a piece of art for the living room,
but I don't know which one to get. Get both
at the same time. Go get a Samsung Frame TV,

(30:51):
a Samsung Frame which is a fantastic, fantastic flat screen TV.
But also so it's genius is that it disguises itself
as a piece of art hanging on the wall when
you're not watching the TV, and so you get both.
In fact, with the Samsung Frame, you get an endless

(31:12):
amount of art because you can put whatever art up
there you want, and it is specially designed to dim
and set the image so that it seems like it's
non lit non I mean, if you haven't seen a
frame and you're pondering that possibility, you got to go
see it. You will be impressed. I guarantee it. Uh

(31:33):
what else do I have one last thing? Or two
last things? Number one? How about those AC registers all
those vents around the house, those cheap old vents. Right,
you've poured all this work into your house or you
want to juge up your house, and you've still got
the cheapest looking stamped HVAC vents and registers. There are

(31:54):
companies online where you can find custom registers that just
look so much. They do all the work that your
ace events do change them all out to some custom
looking registers. They make a difference, they really do. It's
the details that matter. And lastly, in any room, get
rid of those off the shelf store bought linens and things, bed,

(32:19):
bath and beyond curtains that are only cut and designed
to go just above your door and your window, and
go for floor to ceiling curtains in a room floor
to ceiling. In any given room ninety percent of the time,
the draperies should the rod should be all the way
up at the ceiling line, even though the door is

(32:41):
not that tall. Elongate and elegantize the height of a
room by letting the curtains go all the way up
to the ceiling line. All right, these are just a
few suggestions. There are literally thousands more. I just wanted
to inspire you answer some questions today from our listeners
and get your point out in the right direction that maybe,

(33:02):
if you're holding onto your cash right now, a makeover
is the right way to go. And why do they
work so well? Because design matters most And in the end,
when you've got the right design idea for a room,
you can do it out of paper or platinum and
still get ninety percent of the effect. Once the design
is right, the cost can be controlled. I guarantee it.

(33:26):
We do it every single day around here. It always works.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
All right.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
I'm going to leave you there, and I hope for
you the very very best Easter Sunday imaginable. Get out there,
get busy building yourself, whether you're rebuilding or just making over,
get out there and build yourself a beautiful life, and
we will see you right back here next weekend. This

(33:55):
has been Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Tune
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