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February 26, 2025 • 38 mins

Luka Doncic and Lebron James hosted the Dallas Mavericks Tuesday night, Doug talks about Luka's game and what this means for the Lakers and Mavericks moving forward. Doug weighs in on Kyrie Irving's take on the game. Doug welcomes Bleacher Report national NBA writer Eric Pincus onto the show to talk about the Lakers, Mavs and the other major headlines around the NBA. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "For Better or Worse?". 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:37):
I I watched last night's Lakers MAVs game, and the
Lakers beat the Mavericks and what was a hard fought
game in the fourth quarter, Kyrie irving thirty five points.
I thought Lebron was out standing in the fourth quarter,
and Luca gets his first win over his former team,
and you know, we can get to the he didn't
seem to shake hands at chasing kidd. You know, was

(00:59):
that the Fredo? I knew it was you all along,
fraid oh right, we should have seen it would have
been great if you did the like Lebron says, The
Godfather is the greatest movie, Like why couldn't he have
shown Luca The Godfather and say, Okay, I want you
to walk up to Jason Kidd and give him a
kiss and say who was I new? Was you all along?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Like that would be my.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
New was.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You broke my heart? You broke my heart? You broke
my heart, Jason, you broke my heart? Anyway? None, none
of that had none of that in part to the theatrics.
But I I like sympathize with the Mavericks. Obviously those
that you've been following our season hasn't gone on the
court and the plant if you've actually paid attention. And

(01:41):
my leading scorer, Anthony Roy leads the country in scoring,
hasn't played in two and a half weeks, right, two
and a half months. Excuse me. So you're like, oh,
well you're losing a close game. We're like, yeah, well
we have a really good guy just not playing. So
that's like I've Nico Harrison has got to be sitting
there going I feel like Gottlieb, like I just if
Anthony Davis plays, it's a completely different sport. It is

(02:03):
weird how this has worked. I'm not I'm not arguing
pushing back on I've been team Luca before other people
suddenly are now Team Luca. But I do think it's
really weird that we act like Anthony Davis as some
chump or something like, Hey, when Anthony Davis is right,
when he's healthy, he's top five player in the NBA,

(02:23):
and he plays both ends to the floor, and you
can give me the whole Like Lakers over nineteen games
based upon their defensive rating is like, so now we're
paying attention to the regular season when everything else tells
us not to. Yeah, no, thanks, right, Because the same
people who want to fall back on what the Lakers
are doing regular season, and the same people be like,
I don't believe in Oklahoma City in the playoffs because

(02:46):
it's completely different in the playoffs and in the regular season.
Is that only for Oklahoma City or just for everybody?
I like congruent arguments, that's not one of them. But
if you're a Laker guy, or if you're a sports fan,
the one thing I think I can truly embrace about
this is like Lebron James letting somebody else have the

(03:08):
con kind of impressive, kind of impressive. It was the
whole thing with why it never worked well Steve Nash
was never healthy, but why most people thought it would
never work with Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant only knows one
way to play basketball. Allen Iverson could ever, I don't
know no to M and P come off to bitch right,
That's what he said, because he only knows one way

(03:29):
to play basketball, whereas Lebron's like, hey, I'll just run
the lane and keep my hand up. It's it's so different.
I equate it in radio to if if Colin in
like five years is like, hey, I'll let gottlib post
and I'll be j Mac and I'll just chime in
with little things and I'll do updates, right, that would

(03:52):
never happen because once you've done something one way for
twenty years and been really good at it, it's really
hard to go like, hey, you know, I think you've
been like one of the best ever, and you think
you're the best ever at doing we want you to
do it differently now. Most guys are like, no, how
about now? If they knew Scott, But in the Bronze case,
he's actually handed the controls over to Luca for the

(04:14):
most part. Here's Luca talking with the reporters about the
emotions of the night.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Luca, you said you didn't play well, you still had
a triple double. Can you describe what was it about
your emotions that you were struggling with? And you said
you had lack of sleep when you look back at this.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Game, Like I say, you know, it's weird game, different game,
but I can't even explain what kind of emotions were.
There was just a lot of emotions. You know, I've
seeing the guys, so they're seeing the guys. I played
that went through a lot with the guys, so that
was fun.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
He listen, it's a weird one. It's a weird. Anybody
who's been divorced, it's just it's weird to see you're
extual somebody else. No matter how much you loved him,
you hated him, whatever, You're just like, yeah, that's it's weird.
That's strange. So I understand, uh, with Luca. Here is
Lebron James talking about winning the game for Luca.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
We understood as his teammates that we wanted to try
to get this way in for him. Obviously we know
what transpired not too long ago. So you know, as
his teammates, we wanted just to try to back him
no matter how, you know, in any way, shape or form,
you know, on the court, off the court, whatever, you know.
And I'm happy that was, you know, along with my teammates,
able to make a couple of plays down the stress
to to get him in his win. I know is

(05:32):
I probably won't say it, but I think it means.
It means something to him for sure. You know, anytime
you face your former your former team, you spent seven
years with them, I believe so.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
So yeah, yeah, I mean, like, look all the emotions,
all the things, you get it out of the way.
And if we're honest, they were helped out by the
fact that Anthony Davis didn't play, like, oh hey, Anthony
Davis didn't play kind of a big thing, right, kind
of a big thing. Yeah, he's you know, he had
didn't he have like a like twenty seven and fourteen

(06:01):
this first half as a Maverick. Yeah, he's kind of
he's like a week out. So what's very likely happen
is next time they play, and they only play one
more time this year, it's in Dallas, Like maybe Luca plays,
maybe he doesn't. Anthony Davia's plays, and you're like, oh
my god, Anthony Davis is awesome, Like yeah, he's been
awesome the whole time. But it it It makes what

(06:22):
has so far been the most boring NBA season of
all time a lot more interesting, right, a lot more interesting.
It's like, think of whatever your plainest soup is and
then just throw some holopenis in there. Like wow, that's
totally different. I don't know if it works, but it's
definitely spicy. Just to wear a favorite soup, I think

(06:46):
his lobster bisk I don't know. I love soup and
moving to Wisconsin. This is a very good soup. Part
mid Midwest is a very good soup part of the country.
Only problem with the soup is there's just too much
meat and potatoes in the some I like, I'm a
broth guy like lobster bisc I like some lobster in there,
but I like a lot of good good bisc I

(07:07):
don't know, Jase, do your big you big soup guy.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
I like soup. I like my clam chowder.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
But by the way, your clam chowder is do England
clam chowder? Correct?

Speaker 7 (07:17):
Is it red over the white?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
The red is Manhattan clam chowder. That's not clam chowder.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
That's why that was the answer to the trivia question
in ace Ventura. He said the white.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, yeah, I mean like like, don't don't give me
the red clam chowder that's not clam chowder.

Speaker 8 (07:36):
Are those just red?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Like Minnestroni soup with clams in?

Speaker 8 (07:39):
It's oh so it's like, it's not it's not like
it's not cream.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'm just saying, like arrogantly. When I think of chowder,
chowder always as a cream bas right, Any other chowder
is a cream bas except for Manhattan clam chowder. No, no, not, no,
it's not. It doesn't work for me.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Biscs are great, though.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
I do like a good bisk, tomato bisk or lobster tomato.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Bisc great lobster bisk, amazing corn bisk underrated.

Speaker 8 (08:01):
With a grilled cheese maybe. Oh yeah, now we're talking.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, now we're now we're talking. Now we're talking. Buy
Are you a big bisc guy?

Speaker 9 (08:09):
I really only fancy Campbell's chicken noodle soup. That's pretty
much it on the soup level.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
My issue with chicken noodle. Soup is a lot of
times too many noodles. I like the broth. I'm just
a big broth guy. As i've as I've stayed.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
You want it, you want it more diluted sounds like, No, I.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Don't want to dilute it. I just want really really
good breath. Like the idea of soup is you drink soup,
it like warms up your belly, hydrating, hydrating, It fills
you up, it's got It's not really that hydrating because
it's a lot of high salt content. Yeah, it's far
as you go Campbell's like that, you're basically drinking a
salt lick, you know, with with some with some chicken.

Speaker 8 (08:41):
Does anybody still eat chunky at all? Like I was
a chunky boy when I when it was when I
was a kid, and I.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Was guaranteed buyer buys chunky, A lot.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
Of salt and chunky. I just the only soup that
I do is Campbell's Chicken Little.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah. But you know there's a chunky version of it,
is there?

Speaker 9 (08:55):
Oh yeah, No, that's you don't do the chunky chunky.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You have said, you have said, and tell me if
I'm wrong, If I'm misquoting you. Basically, you have the
diet of an eight year old, okay, which is like,
I like, you like what you like, and you like
very basic stuff and you don't have to apologize for
it all. So I didn't know if that fell in line.

Speaker 9 (09:14):
I would think chunky is pretty uh like pretty hearty?
Yeah it is hearty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be
like an eight year old wheelhouse.

Speaker 8 (09:22):
A meal in a can is that what they call it?

Speaker 9 (09:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, meal and a can. Sandwich in a can is
a beer meal, and a can is a camel chunky soup.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
You know what this conversation makes me want to do,
but have some soup. Go to Peer thirty nine in
San Francisco and have.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh a bowl bowl of chowder. Oh so, does everybody
know do you guys know what Peer thirty nine is?
Anybody a buyer? Do you know what nine? Yes, it's
it's the tourist trap of the San Francisco Wharf. Correct.
And they take San Francisco uh sour dough bread and
they they hollow it out, they scoop it, and they

(09:58):
make a bread bowl and they put some really good
fresh clam chattered.

Speaker 7 (10:01):
There like and you could eat it all, all of it,
all of it.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You can eat everything from the root to the tutor.
You can eat every bit of the steak and soup,
and then you eat the and then you eat the
bowl of bread, which completely fills you up and loads
you up with carbs. And then you're done, and there's
no trash everything, and there's there's just a spoon.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
There's just and this time at some point they'll innovate
an edible spoon.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
If they had edible spoon, that would kind of be delicious.

Speaker 7 (10:26):
It weighs you down so much that it's harder to
avoid homeless people sleeping on the pier.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
You might trip over them.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Well, you got first hand to avoid the walruses and
the homeless people. And sometimes homeless people look like a walrus,
and you gotta be careful similar noises at times.

Speaker 9 (10:44):
What about the guy hiding as a bush and then
he scares people. There's that guy as well.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, there's also the guy that It happens in a lot
of tourist traps where they get they get that like
the bronze spray paint on and they look like they're
a statue, and then all of a sudden they try
and scare people, and then you have children with a
lifetime of therapy thanks to some jerk who's like, hey,
I can look like I'm a chrome figure and then
come to life at the wrong time. It's like the Boogeyman.
That guy gives the Boogeyman nightmares. How do we get

(11:12):
on this tangent? Oh, we were talking about soup? How
did I talk about soup?

Speaker 8 (11:17):
You were talking about the differences between Manhattan and New
England clam chatter. No, yeah, then.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
After we started talking about soup, but the actual sports
analogy to suit. There was something in there about Lebron
and Luca or something. Right, This new.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
Lakers team is a sit with Minni and Green.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
I thought you were talking about Eldon Campbell and that's
how we got on Campbell's soup and his role with
the Lakers back in the day.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
You want to know how big of nerds? You want
to know how big of nerds Dan and I are?
Watch this? Hey Dan? What college Eldon Campbell play at Clemson? Yep?
We did both know, yes, right, completely nondescript NBA player
who had a flat, high top fade back in the nineties,
first round draft pick of the Lakers, you know, a
starter when the Lakers went from being showtime Lakers to

(12:02):
kind of average Lakers for a while. But because we're
sports dorks, we both know Eldon Campbell comes in got
that well.

Speaker 7 (12:09):
I know that because like one of chick Hearn's staples,
I learned where where players played because he made that
a big part of talking about players. So I you know,
chick Hearn was the uh was the soundtrack of my
childhood and everything. You just you knew that this player
played at this school. That's he always talked that way.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Uh, yep, yep.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I could go through all all the famous Laker players. Oh,
Anthony Peeler, Jason Stewart.

Speaker 7 (12:39):
Answer Missouri, there you go, David Rivers, I.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Mean Notre Dame, no Tree Dame, Johnny Lujack.

Speaker 10 (12:47):
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Speaker 2 (12:59):
What Gotleeb Show, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio App. It's interesting
listening to a little Bob Marley coming in. Raise your hand.
If you had a Bob Marley poster on your wall
in college, I did buyer?

Speaker 9 (13:12):
Do you have your hand up, no.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Chase to man.

Speaker 7 (13:17):
I sensed a lot of judging in that answer from
Dan that was that wasn't just a no, that was
a I wouldn't have been caught dead with a poster
of Bob Marley at college?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Did you have a did you have a poster? You
might not have been a poster guy too, Like, let's.

Speaker 9 (13:33):
There are a lot of trendy posters. There's the Eddie
Vedder hanging from the uh, you know, the the stands
or the the concert set that he was at that
was that was one.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
The Nirvana cover poster, right yeah, baby, yep, there was
the college the Blushi poster, yep.

Speaker 9 (13:53):
The college sweater yep, that's what I was gonna say,
as well, drinking the whiskey big poster when I was
in college, sdey Sidney Crawford was I was in college.
There weren't as much like swimsuit stuff like that or models.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I mean, you understand Jason is sneaky old, sid I
know because he was at I was at his fiftieth
birthday party, which is two years ago, right, and I
was like, Jason's fifty that doesn't seem possible. Although honestly,
like I'm fifty next January two, and I still I like,
I act like I'm well, I act like I'm sixteen

(14:25):
most times, and I just don't think, like it doesn't
seem real to me that I'm that old. But Jason
also is he's old with an older soul. That's what
it is.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
But to answer your the essence of your question, I
went through a big Bob Marley faz in the late eighties.
I'm a really big fan. I could listen to legend
frontwards to backwards for hours.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Okay, so did you have a poster negative? Okay, Sam,
Sam is the youngest of us. He's not as young
as he sounds.

Speaker 8 (14:57):
Right, Jason, Jason sneaky old, and I'm uh, I guess
I'm sneaky older than I sound.

Speaker 9 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah, uh, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:07):
I appreciate Bob Marley. But I had a massive rage
against the machine poster on my So that was that
was my deal. And I had like a random Hakeem
Olajawan poster I got in a box of cereal.

Speaker 9 (15:18):
Random was that.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Akem or cause he switched it to Hakim like mid career.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
I guess it was at that point it had been
become Hakeem.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
By the way, again I heard from dand then that's
the that's the worst sports gigs we can that's where
we connect on I remember switch to the h.

Speaker 9 (15:32):
I also had. I had an Akem, but it was Akem.
Abdul Elaja on the poster said it was the white
sports Illustrated one.

Speaker 7 (15:40):
That's hardcore.

Speaker 9 (15:41):
Yes, hardcore had the middle name.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
What sneakers? Was he wearing like ponies back then? Right?

Speaker 9 (15:46):
I don't even remember. I could find the poster online.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
That would be amazing.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
I think he didn't. Last year he changed his name
to Jakeem Tua Juwan. Didn't he.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
You shouldn't. You should have workshopped that one before he
broke it out on air. You really should have. You
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(16:19):
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on your stream. This is Kyrie Irving talking about Luca
and playing against him last night awkward.

Speaker 11 (16:36):
You know, it was awkward, but you know, now I
can talk about the emotions of it. Yeah, it was awkward,
but at the same time, it was fun. You know,
we got a chance to you know, feel like we
were in practice all over again, going at each other.
You know, that was that was a good reflection point
because we had a lot of fun. Bro.

Speaker 7 (16:53):
You know, we went to Madrid.

Speaker 11 (16:55):
You know, we started pre season in Albu Dhabi, which
helped us out a lot.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Man.

Speaker 11 (17:00):
You know, when you're on the road and you get
to know someone and their family and you're introducing everybody
to your friends, and you know, my theory was like
very special because that's where he played, and I got
a chance to meet some of his friends and his
support system out there, and I think that just carried
over into the season and you know, he was in
It was just great spirits, you know, coming into the
last season, and it was easy to you know, compliment

(17:22):
him while he's having an MVP season.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Uh yeah, I mean, like listen, they that's called being
a teammate, being a friend. I do think it's interesting
that so many of these NBA players. When Kyrie gets
when excuse me, when Luca gets traded, They're like, yes,
he's the business. They don't care, they don't care. Nobody
cares about you. It's just a business. Meanwhile, ninety percent

(17:48):
of these trades are forced by players, and there's never
a there's never a GM that goes like, yeah, they're players,
they don't care, right, they don't right, It's only a
business when it doesn't go their way. When it doesn't
go their way, I think that's the hard part. Eric
Pinkas joins us. He's a national NBA writer for Blake Report.
He's the general manager of these sports business classroom. He

(18:10):
joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox
Sports Radio. You're just when the trade went down, you
started to decipher it. What's your opinion of it.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Let's see what's my opinion of it. Well, there's a
lot that doesn't make sense on the Dallas side, and
so in the short term, fine, I'll take them at
their word of what they're saying. But I don't just
take what people say and necessarily believe it because their
corporation and they're spinning the message a certain kind of way,

(18:44):
and so I'll continue to develop my thoughts on Maybe
it just doesn't make sense, but I love Anthony Davis
as a player. I think that he does make them
better immediately defensively if he's on the court, but he's
you know, if you're a Laker fan. I talk to
fans all the time, and they're just like literally praying

(19:07):
that Anthony Davis just doesn't trip over like the baseline
and go down for a month. And that's sort of
that free floating anxiety Laker fans have been dealing with.
Maybe Luca has a shorter career because of whatever Dallas
is claiming or whatever they're reportedly claiming. We'll wait and see,
but it's it's amazing that the Laker's got another franchise star.
And I don't fully understand it. On the Dallas side,

(19:30):
I think you do.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I mean again, I could be wrong, Like I'm with you.
I it's not a trade. Here's my take, Eric, I
went and made the trade, but there obviously is a
bunch we don't know, and I think we can assume
and with all the stories coming out that Luca was
a p I t a you know, a pain and
that you know what.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
What star isn't, what superstar isn't in the NBA, that's
just comes with it.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
I would I would agree with I agree with you,
and I think there is a certain fear of the
three hundred and fifty million dollar contract, Like once we're
in there, like there's literally nothing we Once you sign
up to give a guy three hundred and fifty million dollars,
he's going to do what he wants to do.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Three years, you're paying Anthony Davis the same amount roughly
that you would be paying Luca, and Anthony Davis will
be like thirty five thirty six. There's the logic that
you're saying, I get, and that's what they're portraying. It
just doesn't add up. No, No, I have sixty three
million dollars in twenty seven, twenty eight when he's like
injury prone now and he's all when he's born in

(20:27):
ninety three, so he's like thirty two now, so he'll
be thirty five. It's crazy. The logic doesn't a up.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
I think the the trading for a guy who's a
better two way player makes sense. The trading for a
guy who went healthy is not Luca but a top
five ish short of player makes sense. The issue with
it is if you're if your issue with Luca is
his readiness to play, you can't give me, Hey, the
last year and a half has been Anthony Davis's What

(20:55):
about the previous ten years? Right? What about the previous
ten years? Right? Message wrong? Messenger would probably think, Okay,
let's get to the game last night, or actually, let's
start with the Lakers. You mentioned when he's healthy, it
makes the Mavericks better. When everything's right here now with
the Lakers, are they better than they were with Anthony Davis?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Well, I mean it makes the Mavericks better defensively. We
could debate the offense, but they weren't having Luke Ald
play anyway. He hadn't played since Christmas. So you know,
if Anthony Davis is playing, that's immediately you're getting a
player on the court who's better defensively and is actually
playing on the Lakers side. Like in theory, when you
look at this roster, you say this team can't defend.

(21:38):
When I look at the Lakers roster, like if you're
playing guys like Lebron who I know. Jj I was
there last night and he praised Lebron's defense and Admittedly,
Lebron is playing a lot harder on defense, but there
are some limitations in his mobility, especially on the perimeter,
that come with age and just who he is, Like
he's really really amazing at what he does and what
he doesn't. They're just like any other human being. What

(21:58):
he doesn't do as well, he doesn't do as well.
But he is playing harder on defense. But like Luca,
is not known to play any defense, and I've been
impressed with what I've seen in his communication and how
he uses his size and his effort. We'll see if
that continues. Austin reeves fights, but you know, Kyrie lit
him up, but then you shut down with relatively speaking Clay.
So like Austin does do some things well on defense

(22:21):
and some things poorly. Hatcha Mura again last couple of games.
Great on defense, very inconsistent, not great on the perimeter defensively,
So you start like Dalton connect can't guard his shadows.
So you start going through all these names and you're like,
they have no center outside of Jackson Hayes's playing really well,
and on paper, they shouldn't be able to defend, and

(22:41):
yet they are. And they're one of the best defenses
in the last x amount of weeks or month, six weeks,
or however long it is. And some of that is
without a d some of that's without Luca. I'm impressed
by what they're doing. And if they continue to play
defense at this level, they you know, sky's a limit
because I'll fend as Luca gets settled, gets in better

(23:02):
shape just from not playing. Since you know Christmas, uh,
and you have Lebron and Austin Reeves. You have three brains,
three creators. That's the hardest part of getting players who
can really think the game, who are also able to
score and really talented, and then a bunch of role
players playing hard. I don't know how far they'll get,
but you can certainly argue that they have a shot.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, uh,
what about the Warriors? H what is the what is
the honest opinion of Eric Pinkas in regards to how
legitimate a shot they have? Now they've had a Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, I'm I wrote off the Warriors and then they
want another title, you know what I mean? Like that
was a couple of years back. It's like Steph Curry
is like Lebron in that you age and you know
the natural attrition of being an NBA player for this long.
They should be massively on the decline, and they're not.

(24:00):
I mean, I love Clay, he's not any of a
great game the other day, but he's not the same guy.
Steph is just ridiculous, and so betting against him is
a fool's errand and how many times did we right
off the heat when they get to the finals? You know,
the Tyler hero gets hurt, they're done, and then they
go to the finals, and you know, Jimmy Butler is,

(24:22):
He's tough, He's difficult, you know. I mean that both
as a compliment and maybe a little bit of a slight.
You know, he forced his agenda and he got to
where he wanted to go, and credit to his agent
and to him to getting that accomplished. And you have
Draymond Green, who Yeah, I mean Warriors fans may love him,
I think everyone else loves to hate him. And that
I think he relish is that this is a team

(24:44):
that as flaws. They're getting Jonathan kuminga back hopefully this week.
I'd like to see everyone healthy and let's like, let's
see let's go like the best teams on Earth, let's
see them healthy. I don't know if they're you know,
it's kind of like the Lakers. I mean, they've they've
got a bigger hild climb because they may have to
go through the play in or fight to get to
catch the Clippers at six. But it's just, you know,

(25:07):
they have a puncher's chance. I'm not going to say
they're a favorite, but you know, outside of the Thunder,
who've been dominant and aren't proven deep into the playoffs,
it's pretty wide open. There's no one. I mean, yeah,
Jokich is the best player probably on Earth, but the
Nuggets are vulnerable. Even though they're playing really well, they're
not as good, at least on paper, as they were

(25:27):
in previous seasons. So, yeah, Warriors have a shot. I
don't think it's maybe a favorite, but they have a
real shot.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I think one of the reasons this NBA season has
been kind of boring is there just isn't a buy
in to the Oklahoma City Thunder yet, right just because
they lost to the Mavericks in the playoffs last year.
Because you know, the inside the NBA guys like, nah,
not ready. You get that from the ESPN guys as well.
Do you think they're ready to take that next step?

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, I mean, you know, I've I've enjoyed the season.
I think that we've had more trades than we've ever had.
I think we've had a significant amount of drama. I
think the Lucas story is the biggest story as we've
had in a long time. The Thunder have arguably the
MVP of the league. You know, we could just give
it to Yokich every year, and probably should. But Shay
gils is Alexander's playing tremendous basketball. I went to see

(26:18):
him play. I was in Orlando for the JE League
show case. Got to see them play over there, and
there were moves that he was making when I was
watching up close that remind me of Kobe more than
anybody else in the league in terms of footwork, in
terms of his like shimmy shiftiness, is just really wonderful player,
plays defense. I don't know if they're the most exciting team.

(26:40):
They're not in the biggest market, they're in one of
the smallest markets. Maybe there's you know, and yes, there's
some uncertainty whether they'll be ready but you have that
every year, and if anything, it raises the excitement because
if you're Memphis, if you're Denver, La, Houston, the Clippers,
even now you have the Warriors, the Mavericks, if they

(27:01):
can get ad back, you know, the Kings still think
they got to shot. The Wolves. Hell, the Suns are well,
let's not talk about the Suns. But like all these
teams think that if they get there, they've got a shot.
And I think that means that it's more exciting for
fans because of that uncertainty of the thunder, because yeah,
like if we don't, we might if you're a fan

(27:22):
or whatever your team is, we may get through all
the way to the finals. And once we're there, hell yeah,
Cleveland or Boston might be tough, maybe the Knicks or whatever.
But once you're there, you got a shot. So you know,
I think it's it's we've gotten exciting couple of months
of basketball ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
We do stuck Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio,
and then he got the Celtics who rolled their way
to a championship last year. And maybe it's because you know,
it's like, all right, they're good. Are they the best?
Are they setting? Records now, but everybody knows they're going
to be good. How are the Celtics different this year
from last year?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Well, I think they wisely pace themselves a little bit more.
When you're hungry and you're trying to win it all
and you're trying to prove yourself, you're trying to go
out there and win every game and do everything perfectly.
And I think with the title now they can at
least be Okay, fine, we're not going to catch Cleveland.
We don't need to catch Cleveland. Let's just get our
guys healthy and playing the best that they could possibly

(28:21):
play when it matters. And yeah, they had a couple
of rough stretches, but they've been what nine and one
last ten games, They've won six in a row. They're
not dramatically different. I think Tayton Pritchard has taken a
step forward as a major contributor offensively, where I think
he was a little bit more of an afterthought, and
that relieves some of the aging issues of Drew Holliday,

(28:43):
takes off some of that pressure. I mean, Drew's great.
Just like we talked about Steph and Lebron, guys deep
into their thirties at some point you start to fall
off al Morford and whatnot. But they've just got a
really good team. They play hard, they've got enough talent
if they have I can't wait to see the Cleveland
Boston Eastern Commerce Finals. Obviously Knicks could do it some

(29:05):
of these other teams. I know Knicks fans listening to
us are aren't happy with that, and maybe the Knicks
someone else gets there, but at least going by the
best two teams regular season, I can't wait to see
that series because it should be a really wonderful battle.
The size of Porzingis and you know, Horford and whatnot
against Jared Allen and Mobley and then all the big

(29:26):
wings that the Celtics have, but all the talented guards
that the Cavs have should be absolutely, you know, a
blast if we get that. I'm pulling for it. Knicks fans,
don't donate on me. I'm pulling for that awesome stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
As always, Eric, we really appreciate you joining us.

Speaker 9 (29:42):
And now this drama. NFL Injener Jordan Schultz reports that
Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford recently spent time in Montana at
the home of Raiders minority owner Tom Brady. The report
says Brady had been trying to convince Stafford to join
the Raiders. Of course, the Rams have allowed Stafford to
seek another opportunity. Well, the NFL networks Ian Rapaport came

(30:03):
out with a tweet saying that that was not the case,
that it was just a happen stance meeting between the
two unplanned, and that they bumped into each other at
a ski resort in Montana. Schultz has since replied to
Rapaport's post, indirectly saying that if you believe that story,

(30:24):
then I've got some land to sell you. But some
insider versus insider drama between Jordan Schultz and Ian Rapaport
dug back to you.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Well, I mean there's a really easy way to figure
that out, right, is does Tom Brady own a place?
I think he belongs to Yellowstone Club. You guys familiar
with the Yellowstone Club.

Speaker 9 (30:46):
I've heard of it. But I is hunting, fishing, golf
like that sort of thing, Like.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
No, they I think they have in the summer, they
have fishing in golf, but in the winter it is
like the most it's actually like the most exclusive sort
of country club in the country, only it's like a
ski club and ski resource, and it's I mean, you know,
like it's crazy crazy money, crazy crazy money. And so

(31:12):
I think that's really the question there is in terms
of validity of it. So that'd be interesting.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
There's also the the Mike Silver point of this, that
long time NFL reporter, that could it be tampering if
if yeah, Brady was you know, but it's a Fox
on Fox employee. But if the rams allowed him to have,
you know, to seek a trade like you know, where

(31:41):
are the lines here?

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I don't know. That's a weird one too. That's a
great it's a great point you bring up.

Speaker 10 (31:45):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I'm gonna ask a really dumb question. Is this hall
of Oates? That's hallo Oates.

Speaker 8 (31:59):
Right, it's yes, that's yes, nineteen eighty yes, yes.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
Hold on, yes? Who did you think this was? Doug?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
I thought it was Hollowoats.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 12 (32:13):
Why because everyone knows it's yes, Sam, you should have
responded yes, yes, like that's it, and then Doug with
a fast opportunity there, but you were correcting.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Him, what else did yes sing?

Speaker 7 (32:27):
Well, Yes, it was an experimental band from the seventies.
They did like twelve minute songs and it wasn't really
commercially successful. And in the mid eighties they came out
with this song and they put a cool video to
it and it topped the billboards and everyone's like, oh,
I like this new band. Yes, and everyone was like no,
they were doing like psychedelic experimental crap in the early seventies.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah. When you said experimental in seven out seven seven
minute songs, I knew there were drugs involved, right, Just
like it's like no, no, no, man, they wait for the part, man,
wait for the part.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
You needy three.

Speaker 7 (33:02):
Owner of a lonely Heart.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
They have some other of a lonely Wasn't this that
that guitar riff featured in like a a commercial for
some kind of like athletics where like a skiing a
ski a skiwere commercial.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
I don't know sure.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Let's get to the let's get to a game.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
All right, stuck Gotli show. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
What do you got there?

Speaker 9 (33:32):
Dann Byers far, Doug, the game today is for better
or worse? All right? For better or worse? The Luca
accusations that have been circling social media, things that Dallas
Mavericks were not thrilled with about Luka Dancic, whether they're
real or not, Doug, we will decide what is better
or worse, the drinking beer accusation or the smoking hookah

(33:56):
hookah accusation.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
What's worse for what one? It's worse for.

Speaker 9 (34:01):
Your yeah, yeah, for your NBA career reputation.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I think the drinking beer. I think the drinking beer right,
And it wasn't like he was doing ultra like ultra
low carb like he was just whatever he could drink.
I thought it was red wine. It was other people
told me his red wine. But I think I think
it's a drinking you know. The hookah thing, I don't know,
like is he hitting the hooka every night? Is he

(34:27):
hitting the hook at halftime? I had a teammate Russia
who smoked, and he had bo and smoking with Bio
in the shower.

Speaker 9 (34:33):
Shower.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yes, just the absolute worst.

Speaker 9 (34:37):
Sam did well.

Speaker 8 (34:38):
You wanted to add something, wanted to make the obvious
rhyme here that if he was known for smoking Houkah,
we could call him Huka Doncic.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Come on now, who let's get to the next one.

Speaker 9 (34:51):
Yes, that's all right. For better or worse, Doug, the
handshake pregame or post game, because Lebron was kind of
ridiculed for not sticking around. I'm doing a postgame handshake
with Anthony Davis. Apparently they spoke prior to the game.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
But NBA they don't do the postgame handshake all the time.

Speaker 9 (35:08):
Did Luca got a lot of hugs last night from
all those Mavericks players. Are you down for the pregame
or the post game?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Well, I listen. In college basketball, it's all about the
There is a pregame with the coaches, but it's all
about the post game handshake. And I like the good
postgame handshake. I mean, I don't like the fact that
for twenty six times I've had to walk down the
other sideline and shake some of his hand congratulate them,
but I do. I think it's an active class in
sportsmanship and it's something that's necessary.

Speaker 9 (35:35):
Dude, do you remember any like line like that? A
coach said that You're like that was a weird thing
to say.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, I mean honestly, like Sunday, the coach of Youngstown,
he grabbed me, like stop me, and he just like
was very complimentary. Yeah, I thought I was great those
things as much as I probably always thought before this, like, eh,
you know, before I got the coach that' like eh
does it? Like now he kind of does. And I

(36:02):
have a pre existing relationship with about half of the
coaches that we've coached against, and yeah, like you know,
Ben McCullum was super complimentary, and I think that guy's
an amazing coach. So yeah, those are the ones that
jump out you.

Speaker 9 (36:14):
Maybe Ben McCollum getting a new job next year, who knows,
We shall see very possible, all right, Doug For better
or worse? Top seed in the NBA. Cavaliers versus Thunder.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think Thunder. I think Thunder because they've been there before.
They've been there, and they've you have to feel the
pain for you taste the champagne. They they felt the pain,
whereas I don't know if the Calves have felt that pain.

Speaker 9 (36:39):
Calves right now, with the best record in the league,
writting an eight game win streak, obviously.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Their great last night. Watched that game last.

Speaker 9 (36:45):
Night, Yeah, that's the magic, all right, Doug. For Better
or Worse Kevin Durant's legacy, like, is he going to
be known more for being a member of the Warriors.
He's going to be known for being a member of
the Thunder.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Oh, I honestly think he'll be He'll be most known
for leaving the Thunder to join the Warrior. Okay, so
I it's that's that's just I don't think anybody says
anything about Brooklyn, even though he was magnificent in that
series where his foot was on the line, he had
a three descent overtime. I don't think anybody is gonna
remember anything but the Suns, only that it didn't work,

(37:23):
nor how great he was with the Warriors in the finals.
I think it's all gonna be about. Hey, here he
was the the Oklahoma City having you know, three future
MVPs and only getting one NBA Finals, and then he
left Oklahoma City to go to the Warriors. That's what
people remember.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
For Better or Worse, New York team owner Woody Johnson
versus James Dolan.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Ooh, I'm gonna say Woody Johnson is worse because because
at least James James Dolan has a terrible reputation. But
James Dolan really literally has nothing to do with basketball now,
so at least he's letting other boys would He has
a tendency to let his sons decide, which is a
bad idea.

Speaker 9 (38:05):
That's game time.

Speaker 10 (38:09):
This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
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