Kyrie Irving shows he's the man & the 76ers have fires to put out

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Let me start with last night where Kyrie Irving went
off for the Boston Celtics. This game was closed, three
point game late, Indiana got too cute and the Celtics survive.

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But if you watch the last Stites game, you're like,
that dude's a cheap code. It's unfair how nasty Kyrie
Irving is, and so quickly we forget. Though Lebron was
incredible in their NBA Finals run when they came from
three games to one down, the guy who was equally

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incredible and actually made the game winning plays and shots
at the offensive end was Kyrie Irving. Okay, it's it's
not to to nullifier Negate in any way the greatness
of Lebron James. But whether he's Batman and Robin or
a dynamic tandem that's on more even footing like Kyrie

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Irving can hoop and as much as people want to say, wow,
you know the Celtics last year one without them, did
they the East was booty? Everybody knows that the team
with the best record in the East, the Celtics, didn't
have to play. They had go seven games just to
beat the Milwaukee Bucks in the first round. And while

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Jayson Tatum is going to be a very good player,
he is not a great player yet. While Jalen Brown
is going to be a very good player, he is
not a great player yet. Al Horford is a great
blend player, not a superstar, like kind of go through
their roster like, wait, they need somebody who can go
get them a bucket. And that's what Kyie Irving is.

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But whether it's us in the media, and I don't
do that thing that some radio guys and TV guys
do where they say, you know, the media. I'm part
of the media. I get to eat those horrible pre
and postgame meals and ask terrible questions before after and
sometimes at halftime of games. I remember the media. But
the us, the media, we set this narrative as well.
Maybe he's not that important because you have a lot

(04:51):
of people who talk about basketball who don't actually know
anything about basketball. They do. They've just been talking about
basketball long enough, long enough so that they they convince
you that they know the sport and maybe may cover
of the sport. And I'm not saying I know everything,
but all you have to do is one, take my

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word forward. I got a pretty high basketball IQ. Two.
The people I talked to in three. Just look when
Kye Irving was traded from the Cleveland Cavaliers. Yes, Isaiah
Thomas was coming off injury, but he was just one
of three players that was dealt in return for Kyrie Irving.
The point is it's not just about matching up salaries.
It's that he's as he was. He was seen as valuable,

(05:33):
was seen as a fair trade to trade two and
a half starters for one player. That's how good he is.
And so whether it's us in the media with our narratives,
or it's uh people with their speculation about what he
wants to do next, or whether it's his own misuse
of social media at times just saying dumb stuff, we

(05:56):
get so far afield from the fact that that dude
is awesome at basketball. In many ways, you related to
Kevin Durant yesterday we played for you. Kevin Durant thoroughly
convincing you that he's doing the right thing in what
Nick Wright called being passive. He's just said, I'm look,

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I'm reacting to the defense. Yeah, they got a little
dude under me, and I could make what he say
about my shots. Plus there's another dude in help, and
oftentimes another dude in help. This is how we were
playing the second the last month of the season. It
was really successful for us. This is how will continue
to play. Take what the defense gives you. What they
tell you in basketball, same thing in football. Take what

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the defense gives you. And that's what he's doing. But
because Kevin Durant had burner accounts, because he left Oklahoma
City and people are in their feelings because he said
some weird stuff and reacted in a defensive way, we
get we get away from the fact that the two
time finals m v P. He's a former NBA and
VP who could could have won it any of these years.

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He's seven feet tall with a virtually unguardable fade away
jump shot, and he's shown he could come through in
the clutch. He plays both ends of the floor and
if you listen to him, about why he's playing, how
he's playing. You can tell he has an incredibly high
basketball i Q. But people will hate on him, people
will diminish him. They'll say steps the more important, or

(07:26):
the better player, or whatever they want to say, and
he gets us lost in just how special he is.
Don't believe me. Here's a former tremendous player in the
NBA and an NBA analyst, Greg Anthony, was on with
Dan Patrick Riller today. He had this to say about Kyrie.
I think that shows you more the issue from the

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Pacers standpoint, not having that one truly great player in
their case would be all the depot. And I think
that's the difference you saw it last night, where Kyrie's
ability to score against great defense systems are really under
full in the regular season when you don't have time
to prepare, but when you get in the postseason and
we're focused on one team and we can make adjustice

(08:08):
for a game to game, the one thing you struggle
to adjust he was great players. We have better players
than you do. There's a reason that that the great
players in the NBA played in more conference and NBA finals,
because that usually becomes determining factor, which by the way
is why I've always struggled with people saying how great

(08:28):
Tracy McGrady was, Like he didn't win a playoff series. SERI,
well he didn't. Yeah, ming was hurt a couple of years,
and like, dude, I'm not holding you too. Say I
didn't say you had to win NBA championships. I didn't
say you always had to get the conference finals. I
get there, but you couldn't win a series. Whereas Kyrie

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Irving with a team that you know doesn't have one
of their starting guards, playing against a well coached, tough
minded pacer team that's down their best player. At the
end of the day, the difference in the two teams
is one team as Kyrie Irving and one team does not.
But because of social media, his own mishandling of the media,

(09:13):
our media need to create a narrative like, look I
look at things, maybe the exact opposite of people. The
New York Knicks haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy three.
Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant are so good that if
they team up together, most people, myself included, would say
there's a strong likelihood they play for a championship within

(09:35):
the first two years. That just only to me. That's
how good they are. The reason everybody wants these guys
is how good they are. Does he struggle with leadership
and what to say and how to act and how
he's sure? But he only doesn't struggle with Hey man,
we need a basket right now? Can you do that
for us? That they can both do. NBA insider Sam

(10:00):
Amock joins the show. I'll ask him about Kyrie dominating
last night. Does that change how people mes some media
pundans will look at Kyrie Irving. Well, we'll ask him
about the Oklahoma City Thunder and their struggles if if
they get dusted off in the first round of the playoffs,
what that means for the future of Okay. See, We're
gonna ask what the Lakers. Why are they conducting coaching

(10:23):
interviews and they don't have a president of team operations.
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they enjoy more confident car buying experience. Story Today out
of New Jersey cam in New Jersey is actually with
a Philadelphia seventy Sixers have facility um or excuse me,
that's where they are. Yeah. The story alleges that Brett
Brown Brett Brown is the head coach of the seventy Sixers,
lost his locker room after the Jimmy Butler trade. It
talks about an incident involving Joel Embiid and former Sixer

(11:29):
in spur Bruce Bowen after Bowen after excuse me, Brown
had brought Bowen in to address the team. It also
claims that gm Elton Brand approached ownership at the possibility
of trading Ben Simmons ahead of the trade deadline. Some
of the aspects have already been refuted. The alleged incident

(11:49):
with Bowen supposedly happened in Portland, but Bowen did not
address the team in Portland. Had happened that happened in
San Antonio. From the description of a newspaper, maybe it
was much ado about nothing. The story initially said that
Simmons was in Miami with his girlfriend Kendall Jenner, but
publication already listed a correction saying Simmons was actually in
Orlando and no mention of Jenner. There is some smoke here,

(12:13):
whether or not there's fire. Let's check in with Sam Amick, who,
of course writes for the Athletic Covers the NBA has
done so for years. What do you make of some
of the negative stories and uh, some of the some
of the weird aspects of the Philadelphia seventy dog Appreciate
you having me as always, Um, that's the first I've
heard of that story. To be honest with you, I

(12:35):
would say that even without knowing that information or that report,
you know, there was certainly a growing indication that if
the Sixers ended up getting bounced here and not even
coming close to matching their own expectations, which are are
pretty grand and when you talk about Josh Harris and
that group and what they want to accomplish. They went

(12:56):
all in by getting Jimmy Butler. They went all in
by getting Tobias Harris. Uh, you know, the coaching aspect
of that whole story. You know, again, without that report,
was was already very real. The idea that Brett Brown
could be in trouble, The idea that even with Monty
Williams being you know, a very coveted guy on the
on the coaching circle right now, the idea that did

(13:16):
they end up kind of finding a way to hold
on the Monty if they're gonna fire Bread. Uh, you know,
that's the way I saw that going in. This doesn't help.
Even if there are some discrepancies in the reporting, I
think what it reveals is some of the inner workings
that are problematic. Ben Simmons in particular is a guy
who some people within that organization find to be you know,

(13:37):
a lot to handle and a lot of personality in
that room between him and Joel and Jimmy and the
rest of them. So a lot for Bread to navigate,
for sure. You know. It's interesting. Um, let's see, let's
start with the Simmons part um. How much have you
You've you've hung out? I know you have the Steven
Adams files, conversations with the NBA's most interesting man. And
I do know Steven Adams is not Australian. He's from

(13:58):
New Zealand, right, He's a Kiwi. Uh. And he's one
of eighteen. He has seventeen siblings I think, I mean,
which just and he's not the biggest. That's the other
part that's crazy. I want to see the biggest anyway.
But while New Zealanders are not exactly like Aussie's, you've
also been able to deal with Aussie's. And I know

(14:19):
this is stereotyping, right, but generally every Aussie I've ever
been around in basketball, I have friends that have played
in Australia. Uh. They all basically say, Aussie's are the
greatest teammates. They're tougher than nails. Uh. They all shooting
passed the basketball well, they play for each other, They're

(14:40):
really competitive. Then afterwards they all want to I might
come come get a beer with us, right, Like they
all they just have a good time. Is that a
fair depiction of most Australian basketball players you've come upon? Yeah,
I mean we probably shouldn't paint too broder brush, but yes,
you think about the Andrew Bogus of the world and
the combination of greatiness and selflessness, I think that is
definitely tread. And there's some sort of break between the

(15:04):
Ausse's and Ben Simmons. And I know he went to
high school and played college here for a for a bit,
but he's still Australian and that always perked up my
attention as to what could it be. What is it
about Ben Simmons that, as you point out to say,
makes him a little bit more to handle other than
just he's got to become a better shooter. To be
fair honestly, I'm gonna flip that on its head a

(15:25):
little bit. I think if if you were asking Ben,
he would say, well, wait a minute. It starts with
Joel and it and then it got compounded by Jimmy
and then I feel like what has happened is because
you know, Ben side of it is all right, rookie
of the Year, supposed franchise centerpiece by himself for for
a little bit of a time when Joel was hurt,

(15:48):
you know, the excitement was about Ben and and now
it's like a little bit of a false from Grace
and now there's only so much oxygen in that room.
And you have two guys in Joel and Jimmy who
listen and terms of media color and candor, and you
know that aspect of what we do, these guys are gold.
They're great quotes, they're they're fascinating, their divisive. That's kind

(16:09):
of what we want, that's what we enjoy writing about
talking about. But to be Ben Simmons and to try
to carve out your space in that room. And then
you look and you know Joel has a fairly large
group around him that that kind of requires resources from
the team. Same thing with Jimmy to an extent, and
then the word a couple of months ago with them
is that it was kind of going in that direction.
It just it feels like, uh, these guys are a

(16:30):
little too worried about carving out their lane within the
context of the locker room than it is, you know,
really finding each other together and doing it collectively. Doug
gotlip show here on Fox Sport Trader. That's the voice
of of Sam Amick Um. I understand that the Pacers
are without Victual Adipot and that that was actually a
game in which they almost stole yesterday. But I watch

(16:53):
and and I realized that there's some leadership aspects that
Kyrie Irving asked to learn. But some of the stuff
does he get us a too far afield from the
fact that he's as dynamic a score as the league
has had and maybe will have, Like it almost feels
like it takes this weapon. Oh yeah, he's awesome. I
forgot how awesome he was. For sure, that was fun
to watch. I want to say, was who was on

(17:15):
that call? It was it Reggie Miller In terms of
the former player, do you remember from last night? Whoever
it was. They were talking about his handle and they
brought up the idea that you know, I said, I
think Kevin Harland said, you know, is it the best
handle of the NBA? And and and the feeding feedback
was maybe of all time. And this dude, what he
does with the ball is it's magicians stuff. What he

(17:38):
does with step backs is incredible. What he does getting
guys on skates is fun to watch. So he's still
to an extent underappreciated. Part of it is that, you know,
he just has had to find his way in that
really interesting Celtics landscape when it comes to just all
the talent they have. But you saw it last night.
I mean that's why all around the league, even with
all their roller coaster up and down this season, nobody

(17:59):
was willing that I came across to actually give up
on the Celtics. I think right now you're seeing why
you mentioned Monty Williams. Suppose the Lakers have been reviewed him.
They're going to talk to Tyler as well. It does
feel like Carter to Haad a horse though, right like
magic Magic pulled the rip cord and he parachuted out.
Shouldn't they go president first, coach second? They should? I

(18:24):
mean it is it is interesting in Laker Land right now.
I don't know what to make of it, you know.
I even I wrote something today that was not intended
to be about the Lakers, but talking to Jerry West
about the Clippers, and then that led to the Lakers
and an idea that had been floating around about Jerry
maybe going back to the Lakers and taking a respected
GM with him to work with his son, Ryan West,

(18:45):
who works for the Lakers, has been there for a decade.
But there's all these different you know, high level possibilities
that would probably be there as options for Jennie Buss.
But you know, one thing I can guarantee, there's a
lot more going on behind you know, the doors of
her system we're aware of right now. Everything I hear
is that while it appears that Rob Polinka is running

(19:06):
the show and he's got control of that steering wheel,
that you know, they are kind of making the rounds
at a very high level to consider team president options.
I just don't know who that might be and if
they might be, Like their bar is so high that
it seems conceivable that they might swing and this on
every single, every single one. So that as it relates
to the coaching situation, is problematic because it is, you know,

(19:30):
it is backwards to go ahead and bring the coach
in and then kind of four speed that upon the
new president. So you know, I don't know where we're
gonna be looking at this thing in three or four weeks,
but it's a it's a weird time right now. Yeah.
But what's what's amazing about it is it's like, okay, wait,
is Polinka trying to get a guy in there? Because
that makes it harder for them to find a president
because if you bring in a president, then Polinka could

(19:52):
be the guy who left without a chair when the
music stops playing, right like that. Yeah, And there's a
lot of people who who I've talked to who would
take that job and heartbeat in the first move they
would make because they give me a Rob. So he's
smart enough to know that, you know that that he's
got to find an ally here and I don't know
who that might be, um, but but yeah, that that
is a thing. And so it's if your genie. It's like,

(20:15):
you know, the shop needs to stay open, so Rob's
gotta run it. They have work to do and they
you know, they got a draft coming up, all the
stuff that comes with running an NBA team. But but man,
it's it's an interesting landscape. What do we make of
the fact that the one president that was out there,
who had worked with them before in Cleveland chose to

(20:35):
go to New Orleans instead of even talking to the
l a Lakers, Like, does that is that a sign
of the stay away? This thing is toxic? I would
go the other way. And since I know for a
fact that the Lakers did not reach out at all
to Dave Griffin, that I would say that it. It's
probably it illuminates, um, that bar that I mentioned and

(20:57):
how high it is, because if Dave Griffin's not clearing
your bar, that's pretty wild. But I think, you know,
because it's the Lakers, because of the the power of
that brand, or at least the perceived power of that brand,
that you know, they are shooting you know, even higher
than that. So, I mean, they did not make any
attempt to try to make day part of the program
Doug Otlive Show, You're on Fox Sports traded voice of

(21:18):
Sam Amock. Um. Obviously, everyone around the league has been
impressed with what the Clippers have done to kind of
build this blue collar like you know, even after trading
Tobias Harris, Tobias Harris, they still kind of made the playoffs. Um.
And and we shouldn't get away from the fact that
they were down thirty one before they made this incredible comeback.
They've done that kind of before the during the season,
but they were down thirty one. Um. What do you

(21:40):
think of the Warriors moving forward? They they've shown you
can be physical with them and now they don't have
DeMarcus Cousins. And whether or not that made them better
or made them kind of just different. Not having him
means more Kavon Looney, more going to that bench early.
What do we think of the Warriors? Now, it's funny.
I was I was sneaking in little, uh elliptical time

(22:01):
before you called, and I was trying to watch watch
the game again, UM, and and really go back and
understand what happened. I mean, for one, I'm watching this
thing thinking about Kevin Durant and then I in this instance,
I do not blame him at all for being a
little frustrated that he became the one and only goat
in this situation, that he was the only guy who
was complamed for what happened because pet Everley got under

(22:23):
his skin and he had nine turnovers, and those are
all very real things. But my gosh, you go back
and you watch from the mid third quarter on and
specifically the first six minutes of the fourth quarter, and
I mean it's Steph Curry throwing the ball away, Steff
missing shots, Clay Thompson losing, lou Williams, Um, you know,
left and right guys letting Montrez, Harold bully him down
to the paint, you know, put backs offensive boards, They

(22:45):
got out worked, um and if they keep getting out worked,
then they're gonna play with fire. I mean, there was
a cool moment after Game two. I was actually walking
out of the locker room with DC Rivers, trying to
connect with him for just a minute, and Steve Kerry
came over getting a big hug, said hello, and he
actually made a comment about how he was envious of
Doc because of how hard his guy's played, which is

(23:06):
a hell of a statement considering the roster that Steve
has that he would be envious of the guy on
the other side. But there was truth in it because
they got out worked and they have nothing to lose.
We all know in pro sports, I mean, that's the
best place to be if you're if you're a team,
So you know, I still think the Warriors are gonna
pull this thing off. I give the Clippers a ton
of credit and they're gonna keep fighting. Um, how much
more of a threat are the Rockets now? Because remember

(23:29):
last time they matched up, the Marcus Cousins was the
one who went to work against the Rockets. Do you
feel like they've gotten closer to the Warriors. I'm just
gonna lean into the like the prisoner of the moment
thing Uh, because the regency bias is strong. But I mean,
right now, I would if I was a betman, and
I'm not, I mean I would, I would be gone
with the Rockets, the way they're playing and the vibe
they have and the story that they are acutely aware

(23:52):
of in terms of you know how long they've been
trying to take bites at the Warrior's apple, how long
James Harden has been trying to establish his in the
vigual supremacy over Steph Curry or Kevin Durant for that matter.
You know how long Chris Paul has been trying to
get into the finals, let alone win a championship his
father time and how you know he's he knows that
that clock has taken. And then all these role players

(24:15):
that you know, credit to Darryl Moore and Gerson Rosas
in their front office. They went out and got the
Kenneth for Reids, Austin Rivers, you know, Daniel House Jrs.
All those types of guys to to fill in the
gaps after they lost key role players last summer. They're
in a great place right now. And more importantly to
your question, they just they look like a boxer who's
just sitting there ready with a knockout punch because they've
had enough. So I mean they're playing really well. Yeah,

(24:37):
it should be should be fascinating to watch last thing.
Um everyone declaring for the NBA draft, and it's become
almost a foregone conclusion that you take Zion Williamson number
one overall. But we're seeing the league be dominated by
these dynamic ball handlers that control the game, that have
a super high usage rating. And you have a John

(24:57):
Morant and for a short period time they are a
teammates right there about. You know that he's got the
body type he creates himself for others, a freak athlete
is becoming a better and better shooter. I've talked to
people that say, like, look, I'm not sure. I don't
look at look long and heart at John Rant, Like
the problem is how many seats Zion Williamson is gonna
sell and how many jerseys he's gonna sell. How close

(25:21):
have you heard it is between the two and the
upcoming draft all of I mean, the way you broke
that down, it all makes sense. But I still have
yet to run into anybody who indicates that it's not
a foregone conclusion that a Zion now everything you know,
the job rant skill set definitely does apply to today's
NBA in a wonderful way. And you know, and Zion

(25:41):
is kind of his own type of thing. I mean,
it's part Blake Griffin, you know, part I don't know
who else, But I mean he's he's a specimen and
he's a guy who will shall tickets and who was
going to be explosive and elect drink and do all
those things. But I mean there are questions about him.
I mean, I don't know if you ever saw this.
Gilbrid Arenas of all people, had to really fascinating scouting
report on Zion that I saw a couple of months

(26:03):
ago where he kind of picked his game apart and
raised a bunch of red flags about how well he
would transition to the NBA. And it all made sense
and it got me thinking. But I still continue to
hear that his Zion. Like I mentioned Jerry West earlier,
I saw he did another interview where he compared not
drafting Zion to not drafting Michael Jordan, which is about
his you know, hyperbolic as you can get. But you know,

(26:26):
I think he's going to be the guy yeah, I
tend to generally agree with you. I will say this
like Gilbert saying the kid doesn't do he doesn't come
off of pin downs, like no, he's gonna be the
one setting the screen, but he's gonna be he's got
depended the wrong position. But it's not that Gilbert doesn't
have a high basketball like Q. He does. It was
just it was it was a little weird in terms
of picking apart the things that he doesn't do, but

(26:48):
he's not gonna be asked to do. Uh. Sam Amy.
You can check him out on Twitter at sam and
Underscore Amick or his latest piece in the athletics Stephen
Adams files conversation with the NBA's Most Interesting Man. Give
me one, Give me one quick story. Give me one
Steven Adams, because there's a million out there. Some are real,
some are fake. When somebody dives into this, give me
give me one Steven Adams story. Well, my favorite was

(27:11):
he mentioned that in the off season he'll be in
New Zealand and Wellington and he if he talked about
the health benefits of in between having weight lifting workouts
in the morning and basketball on court work in the afternoon.
The health benefits of going to the local pub where
at noon every single day there's a guinness waiting for
him on the bar. The same bartender knows what he
wants and he says, oh, there's a lot of iron

(27:31):
and guinness, mate, didn't you know that? And and every
single day he smashes a guinness in between his workouts,
and then he goes on his way, And I got
an open invite to go. Heare a few adult beverages
with him. At some point. I think that might be
one of the most fun assignments I've ever had. I'm
gonna take him up on that at some point here,
no question. I mean, if you don't want to go,
I will do it. You don't want to go, I'll

(27:52):
do it, and you can you can steal the bye
line and I will do the reporting. Fair enough. Well,
that's fair enough. The best part was he goes, you
better be ready. He goes with me and the boys
at about eight points each. And but he had also
just told me that he doesn't drink during the season,
and I said, we'll see. I got a leg up.
I'm training for you right now. Hey, if they if
they get dusted off in this playoffs, four games to

(28:14):
one or get swept. Does Billy get fired? I don't
know what will happen, but something, something will happen. Sam
Presty does not sit on his hands. I mean, Billy.
I've never heard anyone within the organization do anything but
a fuse praise for Billy. So it's like there's no
smoke on that front. But something has to give and
and shoot. I mean, we should learn from the James

(28:35):
Harden trade back in two thousand twelve. I'm not trying
to get aggregated here. This is speculation with no intel
at the moment, but like you know, Sam's gonna look
at that roster too. If you go two years in
a row with this Russell Westberg, Paul George Core getting
no farther than the first round with Steven Adams as
part of that, and something got to change. I don't
know what it's going to be. Shooting, need to must

(28:55):
add shooting. Sam, great stuff. I can't wait to read
that piece. Let I really appreciate you join us. We'll
talk to you soon. Thanks, I appreciate it. Let's get
to Isaac Loewen Kron Isaac, what you got hey? Doug
Arizona Cardinals quarterback Josh Rosen commented publicly for the first
time amidst rumors that the team is going to draft

(29:16):
Kyler Murray at number one. Rosen making his comments as
part of a piece for s I t V, which
is basically Sports Illustrated plus a bunch of annoying Papa bads.
Here's what Rosen had to say. You have to be
aware of what's going on to a certain extent, so, like,
I definitely understand the situation. I mean, it's annoying, but
like it is what it is. Football is a business,
and I definitely respect the higher ups in their decisions. Today,

(29:38):
Jacksonville Jaguars Vice president of football Operations Tom Coughlin indirectly
called out cornerback Jalen Ramsey and linebacker Telvin Smith for
skipping the jaguars voluntary offseason conditioning programs, saying, and I quote,
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who have everything given to them become lazy, selfish, and
insensitive to the real values of team. The hard work
that many try to avoid is the major building block
for the development of an outstanding football team. Unquote and
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you like you'd treat you. So The NFL's schedule was released, Ramos,
you're a big Rams fan. Did did you have you
looked at the schedule yet? I took a quick look

(31:29):
at it. I didn't really specifically look for anything, but
I did see they played Caroline, I believe their first
game of the season. So that's what you just want
to see, first game, first game? Yeah, alright, followed by
the Saints week too. So so you did you took
you tak about Saints at Homer on the road? I
think they're at home at the Colosseum. Okay, what about
you music? Um, I did not look at it. I mean, Isaac,

(31:50):
what about you? Did you have you looked like I
know everybody? Do you have people that freak out about
the schedule? I just wondered if you looked at the
schedule thoroughly at all, thoroughly, especially as it relates to
who got the very prime time package in late afternoon
window matchups. Yeah? Really, yeah, only because it's kind of
our industry more more from a broadcasting perspective than the
fans perspective. I should uh the number of times certain

(32:13):
teams were on prime time, especially the Browns. It was
just fascinating to see what was in the late Sunday
afternoon window, because those are the real big ones for
Fox and CBS. One other thing just randomly popping into
my head the fact that the Chargers have two home
games on Sunday night football for the first time ever
since moving to Carson. So think of the visual visuals

(32:37):
of you know, and uh, partly empty stadium, only twenty
nine thousand fans, tons of opposing fans from the visiting
team there. So it was interesting to me that they're
getting too on the Sunday night football package at home
in Carson. Well, there's a couple of parts to that. Now,
I'll I'll say this, This is a lot like National
Signing Day. This feels a lot like National sign Day,

(32:59):
where it matters way more to you about your team
than does the rest of the world. And a lot
like national scignity, like you don't really know are you
looking at this cattle? Like oh, that's gonna be a
tough game, Like we have no idea. I still haven't
even drafted yet, let alone so many injuries, so much
change between now and I like talking about December and
we're in April. April. I will say this about the

(33:20):
Chargers thing. The one I don't like about I'm a
Charger fan. Um is that they have they have Monday
Night Football against the Chiefs. Like that's in the Game
of the Year conversation and it's gonna be at five
thirty in Carson, Like, does anyone understand how bad an
idea that actually is. No, Carson is not exactly in

(33:46):
a metropolis. It's a one town north of or south
of Compton, right, It doesn't make it the worst part
of the universe. It's not the best, but also not
where charge a big thing. It's not where Charger fans live.
It's also not where Chiefs fans live. And the smallest
stadium is it is like you're trying to change that
narrative of because I was there the Ravens game. It

(34:09):
was a Sunday it was a Sunday night game or
Saturday night game against Ravens late in the season. It
was packed and there's some raven fans, but it was
almost all Charger fans. Like people are starting to when
you're good, they get behind your l a that seems
like a terrible idea. Let's put arguably the game of
the year a rematch of last year Monday Night Football,

(34:29):
where the Chargers stole the game, but where they play
and all that. That just there's a lot of other
stuff to it at love. Guess who's the only team
in the NFL not to get a primetime game this season.
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to get you update on stories of the day and
try and try and challenge the cleverness of people like
Gasa low and crossing. This is game time on the

(35:37):
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challenging my cleverness is not much of a chale lounge

(36:00):
at all, especially according to my wife. With that in mind,
here's what we have today, Doug. Guess who in the
NFL is the only team that is a not ready
for prime time player. What's the only team of the
thirty two that does not have a prime time game
scheduled for bills? You're one for one now. They are

(36:27):
going to play one of the Thanksgiving Day games against
the Cowboys, which is a widely seen game not in
prime time. Their Week six team game against the Patriots
could theoretically wind up being a Saturday night game if
it's a big game, but as of now, zippo, so
Doug is one for one. Now, let's see if you
can guess the NFL team that was conned by a

(36:48):
fan into losing about seventy thousand dollars, con by a
fan to losing seventy conned by a fan to losing
seventy Can I get a look? Can I? Can I
get a little context? You just anything part of the story?
Context or a hint hint? Uh? The Minnesota Vikings, No, dude,

(37:12):
it was a Cincinnati Bengals. Yes, it was the Minnesota Vikings.
So what happened was this con man signed a contract
to rent a luxury suite for last season season opener
at US Bank Stadium against the forty Niners. The problem
is he wrote the check from a closed bank account
to pay for the suites. But here's the kicker, and

(37:34):
I don't mean Daniel Carlson. After the game, the Vikings
contacted him and said, hey, your check was written from
a closed bank account. Guy says he's sorry, and then
proceeded to rent more luxury suites to the tune of
two hundred twenty five thousand dollars. The Vikings said, okay,
and those were from a closed bank account as well.

(37:57):
The gentleman is now a fugitive from justice. On the
plus side, I have an idea for my kid's next
birthday party, a luxury suite at U S Bank Stadium.
I will say this having been to US Bank when
it's beautiful. Sweets are amazing, really really amazing under the
restaurants inside the sweets, and they have a dessert cart,
though they do have a dessert cart, and but but

(38:19):
there's also it's like, you know, there's video of you, dude,
right like, this is not one that I think he's
gonna get away with, especially after we blabbed about it
on national radio on this show. Is on another show
he might get away with it this show exactly. Guess
who is an NFL front office executive that might have

(38:39):
violated the collective bargaining agreement. Here's a hint. M it's
like the coughing NFL. I got a laugh from robos
by the way cross that off a bucket list. Tom Coughlin,
very good. I'm afraid that hint was maybe just a

(39:02):
little too subtle. Yes, the NFL currently has no comment
about it. But as we've been detailing, he ripped two
of his players from missing a voluntary offseason workout, and
we actually have an update Within the last few minutes.
Eric Winston, the president of the players and issued a
statement saying that the c b A prohibits anyone from

(39:23):
threatening players to participate in the volunteery workouts and the
NFL Players Association will always pursue any violation. Now, was
there any threats that were made? When what he said
to her, he just basically called out the manhood of dudes.
They weren't shown up. He didn't mention them by name,
but it was a threat, just not in those words.
You don't have to do much reading between the lines.

(39:44):
It was a single entendre, if you will, I understand.
But like the the union acts like the union acts
like like they're the only place of work that someone
asked you to show up for something you're not getting
paid for. True, yeah, true? I mean, Ramos, don't you
have a meeting that you have to go to every week?
You told me about you hate you hate everybody in

(40:05):
the meeting. I do not hate it. Not that's all
you said you You told me, Doug, I hate this.
This is the worst part of my week. And my
boss stinks and I was physically smells, and you don't
like working for him? Oh wait, no, Ramos loves it,
loves it. I'm just saying, and he's deleting that from
the podcast. This is game time on The Duck Gottlieb Show.

(40:34):
Where there's smoke, there seems to be at least something
that has to be fire right, things like things don't
just smoke with no fire. A lot of smoke coming
off of Philadelphia. I'm talking about UM one NBA playoff
team with a whole lot of smoke right now. How
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Have you guys ever started fire? You guys ever tried

(41:17):
to start fire? You can do it? And I'm not
talking about yeah, I get the lighter, get a lighter fluid.
It's an amazing thing, by the way, right lighter fluid.
Is there anything more enjoyed? That's honestly? Two best parts
of cooking on a grill this weekend on Easter weekend
is the smell of charcoal or smell of cooking anything,

(41:39):
and then the the actual moment where you you're like,
did I put on too much? Did I put on
too little? And I'm not talking about cologne. It's the
lighter fluid and you're just in there going like, Okay,
if I jump back, I'm gonna look like a complete whoosy.
On the other hand, if I don't jump back, if
you're not jumped back, and it's going and then singes
all the hairs and your on your arm. You ever
done that? It's actually kind of an enjoyable experience. It's

(42:01):
like how close to death? Did I really come? There? Boys? Man?
Do I love lighting things on fire? And no, I'm
not a pyro maniac, but I have some pyromaniac tendencies.
I don't know. Anyway. I watched Naked and Afraid a
lot my kid. We think it's hilarious, just the idea

(42:22):
that somebody has to somebody like signs up to be
naked with a complete stranger in a jungle and try
and survive and like, yeah, I was a boy scout
back when I was a boy scout, so I can survive.
In the Australian outback. You get bit, they get bit
and the kibbles and bits by a scorpion and then
they get they get carted off. Right. The woman who
has no experience at all survival skills, she makes it

(42:44):
to the end. The thing I'm fascinating most about is
their their their ability to get fire. So Rama's you
can do this? No, I cannot. I tried it with
the two stones, right, that's the one you kind of
But then don't you have to have some sort of
tin her or something to actually light with the spark?
That's correct, like maybe some shavings of some kinds, some

(43:07):
like there you go, dry? Thank you right right? Dry leaves?
So you guys music, have you done this? Ye? No,
you can't do this either, I mean who who can you?
Guys raise your hands. Only real men can do that, doug.
As you eat a saladze like, I can't light it

(43:29):
on fire, and I'm eating a salad right now at
one oh three local time? Isaac, have you ever done this?
Have you ever tried to to light a something else?
I've tried. I've just never successfully done it. Um, Isaac,
You've done it. You can do it, tried being the
key word. I haven't tried to light something on fire,
but flame has resulted from my efforts unintentionally at times. No, no,

(43:52):
what do you mean? I just like to take this
opportunity to apologize to um Mrs Oldlings elementary school class
science experiment gone wrong? Okay, fair, fair enough, Okay, I
can't do it. I've never done it. I wasn't a
boy scout, and so when I watch it, I think
it's amazing. And the thing I do know from watching
this Naked and Afraid, right, is you know the window

(44:14):
effects you have to kind of cover from the wind.
You take a stick and you do it against I
guess the ground, right, you know, like a hole, and
then you get a bunch of tinder there and you
kind of blow on it and the second you see smoke,
you're like, oh, oh, keep going throw more stuff on
it because then it becomes fire. And I don't know
whether or not it was last year in the playoffs

(44:37):
losing to an underman Boston Celticist Club, or whether it's
Ben Simmons dating Kendall Jenner, or whether it's Joel Embiide,
who I think we all believe, or at least I
believe he got more talent maybe than anybody else, anybody
else in the NBA. I guess seven footer who can

(44:59):
trobble path shoot as ridiculous range defensively as well, But
it's kind of a clown like silly clown. I just
and there is a certain amount of there's a little
Dwight Howard to him like more delightful than Dwight Howard,
which seemed a little bit scripted. And there's the injury problems,

(45:20):
right there's the the knee, which is a nagging knee injury,
knee issue. So whether it's Joel Embiid, you know, having
load management or not really being ready for the playoffs
and only finding out he's a game time decision the
day of the game. Or Ben Simmons, you know, anytime
somebody says like, hey, maybe you should shoot right handed

(45:41):
and you're already a rookie of the year that that
does not bow well for the way you shoot left handed.
Or whether it's the Jimmy Butler, who as well respected
and regarded as he is, he's basically destroyed the culture
of now three NBA teams, Or Brett Brown who sustained
and somehow kept his job through the darkest of dark hours,

(46:06):
or the change in the front office, or the whole
Marquel Folts thing which was mishandled. It's not that Marquel Folts, Uh.
I think shooting issues, mental issues weren't going to be
a problem, but just the idea that you wouldn't have
him play in Summer League, and you tried to tell
the world it wasn't a big deal, like it was

(46:28):
a big deal. And then you hire a guy in
Elton Brand who everybody likes Elton Brand, He's got no experience.
It's like all of this smoke and then there's this
um Brett Brown had to address whether or not he

(46:50):
lost his locker room because there was some incident between
Jimmy Butler and UH and Joel Embiid or Joel Embiid
and Bruce Bowen who they brought in to talk to
the team, or just the fact that, look, he was
hired to do a different job than he's doing now.
Brett Brown, who's a former Spur guy, right, and he

(47:10):
brought us to bring in Bruce Bowen, and Bruce Bowen
is as relatable as maybe some people see. He's not
terribly relatable. Whatever bla he Brett Brown was brought in
just to be a decent could get them to being
good two being great, you almost need another guy. It's
a lot like when Mark Jackson was brought in with

(47:31):
the with the Golden State Warriors, like lay the foundation,
but now we get the big boy basketball and we
need a more creative offensive mind. Whatever happened, several players,
most notably the aforementioned Butler, talked about how much they

(47:51):
enjoyed seeing that side of Brown. Brett Brown evidently it's
not a side that he shows. We to be authentic.
There was a big difference between us seeing that as
a legit frustration and anger anybody coming and scream and
act like a madman. But Brett is an authentic guy.
It was great to see him in that mode. Like
Brett Brown has been the guy who's been so encouraging

(48:15):
because they were so bad when they were. When you're
terrible and you have a young team, you gotta come
in and be a pot. You know, you gotta coach
differently than now a sudden, there's a completely different standard.
We're not just playing to be entertaining and to learn
and to grow. Now we're playing to win. Fellas and
Brett Brown may not be the guy for that job,

(48:37):
just because he was there during all the losing and
he has to change his mentality and they don't know
him as that guy. But it feels like much like
when you're you're watching Naked and Afraid, it feels like
somebody's rubbing the sticks together. There's a bunch of smoke
and there's there's fireway down there. Here's Sam a mc
earlier today talking about some of the issues the seventy

(48:58):
Sixers are dealing with. There was certainly growing indication that
if the Sixers ended up getting bounced here, Brett Brown
could be in trouble. Even if there are some discrepancies
in the reporting, I think what it reveals is some
of the inner workings that are problematic. Ben Simmons in particular,
is a guy who some people within that organization find
to be a lot to handle. A lot of personality

(49:19):
in that room between him and Joel and Jimmy and
the rest of them, so a lot for Brett to
navigate for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of personalities there.
Like Joan b doesn't have a bad there's not a
mean personality, but he's so busy talking trash and getting
into Twitter beefs and and hitting on Rihanna that like, bro,
your your number one job is to play great basketball

(49:40):
and take good shots. And he's never really played in
important games with the exception of last year's NBA Playoffs
in his life. Ben Simmons has to develop what what's
the one bad start that James Harden had during his
time with the Houston Rockets? He was the year in
which he was dating which general which which generally is
he dating Chloe gener right, Chloe Kardashian, same same family whatever?

(50:07):
Like the end of the day, you guys are gonna
make or break your names, your brands based upon whether
or not you can win basketball games, not all this
other nonsense. And then you have a coach who was
brought in to do one job and is now trying
to do another turn of football up coming next Joe
Clad joins the show. Is Kyler Murray the best player

(50:27):
in the draft? Is he the best quarterback in the draft?
And uh? Last year we saw a running back be
taken off the board once again in the top five.
This year, no running backs there. How much of this
is trends learning from the past. How much of that
is just the big board we'll ask Joe Klatt. He

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(52:38):
This year, We've got a great show for you here
on Fox Sports Radio. Joe Clatt, Jay Glazer, Chris spielmanh
I Forgetting Rob Stone will host. Okay, so basically the
type of draft crew you normally see on Network TV.
You will hear on Fox Sports Radio the day of
the NFL Draft next week, and he kind of spent

(52:59):
some time with this year on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
we're a week away, Joel. Are you comfortable saying Kyler
Murray should be the number one overall pick? Yeah, I
mean that's that's a good question. Obviously, there's there's a
lot of right now, and this is the type time

(53:19):
I guess I should say that everyone's trying to make
everyone available, right So I still think he should be
the number one pick, and that there's any number of
reasons why. One being the fit between he and Cliff
Kingsbury is just really good, and to me, fit means
more than anything else. I don't think he's the best

(53:39):
prospect in the draft. In fact, I would give that
Moniker to to Bosa from Ohio State. Nick Bosa's sensational.
But the deal is, you've got to have a quarterback,
and that quarterback has to fit what your coach wants
to do. And it just so happens that team has
that has the number one pick. You know their coach
is Taylor made for Kyler Murray. So think this is

(54:03):
a question why is Kyler Murray a better fit than
Josh Rosen, Like Josh Rosen was supposedly a pro ready quarterback.
He's really accurate, he's bigger, and you know, like look
if from the shotgun, like why why can't he fit
in that style of offense? Great question, And I think

(54:23):
I'm gonna give you a little bit of a basketball
analogy and then and then bring it to the football side.
You're well aware that there are teams out there in
college basketball that are very structured. You know, they come
down and they run sets, and those sets I think
of Michigan State, right, I mean, everything is a set.
There's an offense, there's a system, and it's fairly black
and white. Now I'm not totally you know ingrained in

(54:46):
the college, but but there are sets, and it's it's
a little bit more structured. Then you have teams like
North Carolina who come down and it's very you know,
gray area flow. You don't move around. The offense is
kind of constantly in motion and there's no real set
structured to it. There are maybe some rules, but you know,
it's it's much more of a fluid, artistic type of

(55:08):
the deal. Well, the same can be said about football offenses.
I don't think that people really realize the difference between
some of these offenses and others. I think Josh Rosen
fits perfectly with a system that is more black and white,
more structured. Tell me the why, you know, I don't
know why I'm reading this guy and why I'm manipulating
that linebacker and who are we bracketing versus I think

(55:31):
Cliff Kingsbury offense, which was born from what Mike Leach did,
not exactly the same, but born from that, which is
the air raid system, has more gray gray area to it.
You know, you kind of utilize the progression in order
to attack grass, not necessarily because of that guy's number one,
two or three, And and Kyler grew up in that system,
so he's more comfortable in a system that has more

(55:54):
gray area, more fluidity to it, more artistic nature to it,
whereas Josh one some more structured offense. Thank New Orleans.
I do this because that happened, and and because of that,
I think that the fit for Kyler is better with
Cliff Kingsbury. It has nothing to do with the fact that,
you know, I don't think Josh is good enough because
I do I think that he can flourish somewhere else,

(56:16):
but I think that the fit would be better for
him elsewhere. Gotlib Showy on Fox Sports Trader. That's the
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analysts as well. Uh for Fox Sports. You can hear
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Rob Stone, and Chris Spielman our Fox Sports Tradio NFL
Draft special. Uh. You mentioned Joey Bosa. I mean you

(56:39):
mentioned give me Nick Bosa, Joey bos obviously, Um, Joey's
always told us Nick is actually better. Do you do
you think he's better? Um, it's hard to say that
because he hasn't been as dominant as what I feel
like Joey wasn't caused. Now, a lot of that was
injury related, you know, even when he was playing two

(57:00):
years ago, Uh, Doug, he had some need to deny
this that kept him off the field on first and
second down a lot of the time, So he was
used more as a specialist. I feel like that hurt
his numbers and his overall production. Um. Now, when he
was on the field, he was more disruptive than what
Joey was in college, so he's more of a threat
on the defensive side of the ball. Every single time

(57:22):
he's rushing the passer, I feel like you gotta hold
your breath because there's a turnover waiting to happen. Either
he's going to force the quarterback into a bad situation
or bad decision, or he's gonna get in there for
a strip sack. He's as explosive the pass rushers I've
really grat in a long time, and and he can
do everything well. So if healthy, I think Nick has
the potential to be better than Joey, But Joey was

(57:43):
more productive, and I think a cleaner prospect coming out
of Ohio State. Is Nick far and away the best
defense is It not close that he's the best pass
rushing prospect. He is the best pass rushing prospect. I'd
say by you know, maybe not a full wide mark Jen,
but by you know, a decent amount um. Now, he's

(58:04):
not faring away the best defensive prospect because Quentin Williams
is also incredible on the interior. However, Quentin Williams is
so good the defensive tackle from Alabama. I think those
two guys are the two guys I would point to
in this draft and say, if you had to put
money on two players getting a gold jacket, someday, those
would be you know, if you're forced into that situation.

(58:26):
They have that much potential, They have that much talent,
They play hard, all the things that you would love
from from an NFL perspective, they can certainly do. Um.
What about what about Josh Allen? Right? Like, now, he's
more outside linebackers. Yeah, he's more of an edge player
maybe than a than a defensive end per se, but
he's certainly a pass rushing specialist. I'll tell you what

(58:47):
I was impressed with Doug was the fact that I
didn't think he was going to be great in space
as a stand up three or four outside linebacker. But
he went down to Mobile to see your bowl and
I thought he acquitted himself quite nicely covering some of
the tight end and even some of the slop backs
out of the backfield. So I think this guy is
gonna find himself in a situation where he can be
a disruptive force in the National Football League. I would

(59:08):
call him, you know, I hate to use the term
poor man's but he's kind of a poor man's Von
Miller athletic, explosive, long learning how to play in space.
Not quite as what Vaughan was coming out of Texas
A and M, but he certainly has the potential to
be one of the best pass rushers in the National
Football League. Within four or five years, you saw Hollywood
Brown a lot wide receiver Oklahoma, only five nine hundred

(59:31):
sixty six pounds and again kind of like Kyler Murray,
right whereas you go back five six years ago and
they're like, yeah, don't I don't see it? Um can
is is he strong enough or is he good enough
to be able to get the football in space and
to be a traditional wide receiver in systems today? Yeah?
What what I loved about Hollywood was the fact that

(59:55):
it wasn't just straight line speed. He was great and
tight windows even over the middle the field, and they
used him all over the place. They used him at
Jett sweeps, they moved him into the slot. He would
run little break routes of the slot. Uh. Sometimes he
would run what's called a jerk route, which was clear
everybody out, get him one on one with a safety
and then let him have a two way go. And
that two way go was almost always a win for Oklahoma.

(01:00:18):
Those are the style of routes that I think he's
gonna excel out at the next level when he gets
healthy from this Liz Frank injury. I think he's gonna
explode on the NFL scene. Here's what I think. I
think that he's some sort of a mixture between Tyreek
Hill and Deshaun Jackson. To be quite honest with you,
and I think he's kind of Deshaun Jackson without all
the baggage. Because he's a he's a great kid, he's

(01:00:38):
a hard worker, comes from the junior college ranks, go
to Ghost to Oklahoma, head down, a great hands, all
these different things. I think he could have a really
explosive impact on his next team. It's just a matter
of if he can get that foot healthy. What about
DK Metcalf, I mean, everybody freaks out about his size
and strength and straight line speed, but you know, like, look,

(01:01:02):
as you and I both know, this is no different
than any other sport just because you check a lot
of physical boxes. You know, a lot of it's in
your hips, a lot of it's the different fluidity you've
got to actually catch the football. But you know, just
because it reminds me a little bit of David Boston.
I know David Boston used artificial means to get that big,
but he was he was never as good as he
looked like he should be. His DK metcap just a

(01:01:24):
physical freak or can he actually be a great wide
receiver in the NFL. Yeah, I think he's more physical
than he is great wide receiver. There's two things that
you've got to do as a wide receiver in the
National Football League, and and these are non negotiable, Stug.
You've got to be able to create space and then
you've got to catch the ball consistently, and and those
are really the two things. You know, Bill Belichick talks

(01:01:46):
about that a lot. And in order to create space,
I believe that you need the ability to move quickly
laterally in and out of your break, sinking your hips,
doing a lot of different things in order to create
leverage and then separate separate away from that leverage. Here's
the problem when you look at his combined numbers, and
I'm not big on combined numbers, but this I think

(01:02:07):
We'll tell you a huge story about DK Metcalf. He
was in the top you know, two, three, four of
all wide receivers when it came to straight line explosiveness,
the forty, the broad jump, the vertical jump, the bench press,
even if you wanted to throw that in there. And
then as soon as they went lateral with the three
cone drill or the pro shuttle, the twenty yards shuttle,

(01:02:29):
he was in the bottom three of every wide receiver
in the entire combine. To me, that's worrisome. He doesn't
catch the ball consistently, and and so I'm looking at
it and and candidly, I think he's more flash than
he is substance, you know. And and granted he looks amazing,

(01:02:50):
and he's he can run by some defenders, and he
made some incredible one handed catches, but I want a
guy that's going to be consistent, winning in space, creating
that space for the her back. And so candidly, I
don't see it for me. DK metcalf is not in
my top fifty prospects in this NFL draft. We're going
on Instagram he's in the top five. But unfortunately that

(01:03:10):
doesn't win your rings. I wish you would have ever
say how you felt that that's that's next time you
come on. I wish you'd say how you felt. Um,
I can't help it, man, I mean like I love it.
You always are gonna get me unfiltered. Um, okay, the
the big uglies that never get talked about sadly, you know, indeed,

(01:03:31):
obviously getting in Andrew luck healthy has changed them, but
you know, solidifying their offensive line through the draft, getting
you know a guy where people are watching offensive line
tape first time ever? Um, is Juwan Taylor that good?
Like he's most people? I know. There's Jonah Williams as well,
but he doesn't have nearly as as high a grade.
Um is a Juwan Taylor and Jonah Williams? Are they

(01:03:53):
good enough for these teams that have massive offensive line
issues like the Arizona Cardinals, Like we're about their quarterback.
Their lines sucked last year? How good is in a line? Uh?
In terms of readiness to play help start right away?
It's It's okay, It's not a great offensive line draft.
I think that my favorite of all the guys is
the guy you actually didn't bring up named Andre Dillard

(01:04:16):
from Washington State, and and and the reason is because Doug,
I think that offensive line is a bottom line position.
Bottom line is your guy blocked or not right, you know,
so it can look pretty sometimes and some guys are nasty,
and boyd, look at this guy move and this or that.
Bottom line is is your guy blocked or not? And

(01:04:38):
and the term that always comes to the top of
my mind when I'm watching Andre Dillard from Washington State
is sticky. Whether it's in past protection, which he's certainly
the cleanest past protector in this draft. But even in
the run blocking, he might not overpower guys, but they're
always blocked. He's always covering up his man. And and
for that reason, I think he is a really tantalizing

(01:04:59):
prospect because I think he can solidify a tackle position
virtually immediately for any organization. Now, Joan Taylor, he's probably
more talented, he's nastier, he's more powerful, he's better in
the run game in particular as a road grader, but
he's got to get better in the past protection side
of things. Now, you've got to understand, Andre Dillard had
nearly three hundred more pass sets last year than virtually

(01:05:24):
any other offensive tackle on this draft. I mean, think
about that, right with the Mike Leach system, three hundred
more pass sets and and this guy was clean I'm
telling you so, so you're getting a really good player
if you'd select Andre Dillard. Um. You know, Jonah Williams
is is good. I think he's more of a guard.
He'll tell you he's gonna play tackle, and he's the

(01:05:45):
best tackle in the draft. I I do believe that
he should move down and become a guard because he
just doesn't flash that lateral quickness, that lateral agility that
you need out on the outside. Like Gillard has awesome stuff.
Joel Clatt check them out next Thursday evening eight o'clock
Eastern Time, along with Jay Glazer, Chris Fieldman, and Rob

(01:06:05):
Stone our Fox Sports Radio NFL Draft Special. Joel enjoyed
the weekend. I know you'll be prepping a bunch whether
it's good in Newport. We'll see you down dead at
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Sport Traits, get you quick update. Here's Isaac Loewen cron.
You got some golfing played some day baseball. It's some
NBA tonight. What's what's your lead story of the day,

(01:06:27):
It would be baseball. The Oakland A's Dug announcing a
short time ago that they've signed outfielder Chris Davis to
a two year extension through the one campaign. Jeff pass
And reports the deal is worth thirty three point five
million dollars onto the NFL. Where Arizona Cardinals quarterback Josh
Rosen today commented publicly for the first time about the

(01:06:49):
rumors that the Cardinals are going to draft Kyler Murray
number one. In a piece four s I t V.
Rosen said, you have to be aware of what's going
on to a certain extent, So like, I definitely understand situation.
I mean, it's annoying, but like it is what it is.
Football is a business, and I definitely respect the higher
ups in their decisions. Also today, Jacksonville Jaguars vice president

(01:07:11):
Tom Coughlin called out quarterback Jalen Ramsey and linebacker Telvin
Smith for being the only two players to miss the
Jaguars voluntary offseason workouts. Well. The NFL Players Association was
not amused, issuing a statement via Twitter or short time
ago from NFL p A president Eric Winston saying the

(01:07:32):
cb A prohibits anyone from threatening players to participate involuntary workouts,
unlike meetings that John Ramos has to attend. We will
always pursue any violations elsewhere. The Miami Dolphins just announced
they've picked up the fifth year option on the rookie
deal of starting left tackle Laramie Tunseil. Finally, Texans GM

(01:07:53):
Brian Gaines said today that he expects receiver Will Fuller
to be in the starting lineup in week one for
the Texans. All put her on Monday Night against the Saints.
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you're really you're really uh into this whole Jaguars guys
getting called out from ms an O T A S
type deal. Yeah, you know Oscar. The Tom Coughlin fascinates me.

(01:08:38):
Freudian slipped there, but you know you mentioned earlier. Yeah,
meetings are supposed to supposedly optional for employees all of
our America. And the truth is that the NFL p
A can raise a stink all at once, but they
don't really have the power to do anything unless the
NFL actually does something about it, and even if they do,

(01:08:59):
it's going to be some sort of nominal Fine, well
that's not my point. Was a little different minds, Like, look,
here's two really highly paid, super talented guys, and they
had a terrible year last year. They didn't play in
the playoffs. So you've been off since early since late December,

(01:09:20):
and many people would tell you, like, I think the
Jaguars quit right about November, right, I mean, there's some
never from quit in them. So they makes some changes,
They change quarterbacks, they change offensive coordinators. Like, look, the
stuff doesn't just get fixed on its own, just doesn't.
It's not like, hey, let's just show up and it's
gonna be fixed by the time we get to So

(01:09:40):
I get that. Somehow the NFL is supposed to look
like bad guys because they want their guys to be
there working, even though they don't have to work. But like,
we're not asking, they're not asking that much. Show up,
you want to fix it, like you and Jayalen Ramsey
quit on his offense several times over look. If you
want to say you're the best cornerback in the Nation

(01:10:00):
Football League and talk trash to every team that you
played against, even one's quarterbacks, that light you up, how
about getting in here in April and working with your
teammates and working with your coaching staff and trying to
figure out how to fix what went wrong. And I
don't think that's asking that much. I just don't. I
I just in the NFL p A, I don't think
does itself any favors like with threatening like no look,

(01:10:21):
and I know guys get hurt no t s and
it's bad and sometimes that costs cost the guy a season.
It's a rarity, but it does happen, and it's a
total bummer. I will point out guys get hurt in
their private workouts as well, about the same number of guys.
It's a rarity, but it does happen. Do you think
of the next CBA they should just uh eliminate the

(01:10:43):
gray area here and either just and just make it mandatory.
That's solved things like this from from happening. You know,
I mean, like look again, everything will be what you're
willing to give up. I mean, NFL players will tell you, dude,
we don't practice very much, and we don't have two
days anymore. We don't practice very much. We don't hit
anyone more like. But the sale to that was like, look,

(01:11:06):
this is for your own safety. It's not for the
betterment of the game. So the way to make up
to wait, Tom Coffin knows this. The way to make
up for the fact that they can't practice as much
in August and in July as they like to is
to have guys there to have where they already have
stuff installed. They've already you know, worked in anybody that

(01:11:27):
they've signed, they've already worked through what they want to
how they want to tinker with their defense to make
it better. So I think a lot of this is
a byproduct of the new cb A which has guys
practice and hit less than they ever have before. And
it hurts hurts the overall product of a team early
in the season. Uh, speaking of of teams. And so

(01:11:48):
there's the Josh Rosen thing where he, you know, he
said that all this stuff is annoying. I'll just tell
you this about Josh Rosen. I've never heard anyone go,
you know, I love as a guy Josh Rosen doesn't
mean they don't like him, but there's no one who
says I just love him. And he said the uncertainty,

(01:12:10):
the quote is the uncertainty is annoying. And if you
have uncertainty and you've been the number one, you're the
first round pick of the Cardinals, you have certainty. Right,
the uncertainty is annoying. Now you got certainty they're gonna
draft Kyler Murray, because if they weren't gonna draft Kyler Murray,

(01:12:31):
you would have been told, man, we're not taking Calamari.
And then he could have he could have shaped his
answers however he'd like to shape his answers. He could
have said, you know what, all this, I am all
in it, which is what he should have said anyway,
which is I'm all in on the Arizona Cardinals. I

(01:12:52):
want to be here. I want to be a part
of the process of fixing it, of getting better. I
couldn't be more exciting over the new coaching staff and
chance to put up you numbers win games. This is
gonna be fun. But he didn't say that, you know why,
because he said it's annoying. But it is what it is.
Football is a business. I respect the higher ups in
their decisions. We won three games, and each one of

(01:13:12):
those wins to me, it felt like we won the
super Bowl. It's a feeling that's so intoxicating. That's why
I want nothing more than to be a part of
a team. Didn't say this team a team next year
and have the same opportunity to go out and compete.
It's a fair answer, except he is technically the quarterback
of that team. I want to be the quarterback of

(01:13:33):
this team when we do that ten times, twelve times,
sixteen times next year. He didn't say it. You know why,
because they haven't told him what's gonna happen. They haven't
told him what's gonna happen because it's not good news.
Am I wrong? Nick Right thinks it's time for Kevin
Durant to take over for the Warriors. Give you my thoughts. Next.

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(01:15:02):
was Nick right on Kevin Durant's explanation for not getting
into a one on one battle with Patrick Beverley. Listen,
I think there's two people in the world that didn't
just love what Kevin Durant said. Me and Steve Kerr.
I I saw the entirety of my timeline. Just lauding
Kevin Durant for what he said yesterday and what what
Katie said yesterday would have made perfect sense if this

(01:15:23):
for the context Warriors are up to Oh, they've won
two games comfortably, but Katie's averaging thirteen points pergame. It's like, Hey, Kevin,
what's going on with you? What's going on with your offense?
He says, Hey, I'm not gonna let my a one
on one battle, my ego get in the way of
us winning it. To me, makes no sense coming off
the biggest blown leading NBA playoff history. He is Kevin Durant.

(01:15:47):
He can rise up and shoot over him every time.
So while your team is falling apart, while Steph is
on the bench and then ice cold in the fourth quarter,
rising up and shooting over him is exactly what you
needed to do. It's what I would expect Kevin Durant
is going to have personally as a game plan this
evening when they play. I appreciate him saying also, I'm

(01:16:10):
Kevin Durant. I'm not gonna get into one on one
battle with Patrick Beverley. Except in Game one with Patrick
Beverley he got an one on one battle and got ejected.
And in game two with Patrick Beverley, you got an
a one on one battle and you had four offensive
fouls and route to fouling out. So I appreciate the commentary,
but I don't think it lines up with what we've
seen in the first two games. Yeah, I would disagree there. Um,

(01:16:33):
you put him in an impossible situation, right, this is it.
It reminds me of high school basketball when you have
a guy who's the big Division one recruit and you
put the little guy on him who just sticks to
him like lou And while you don't have to call
a foul every time he gets super close to him,
you also can't call a foul every time Patrick Beverley

(01:16:56):
falls down because he's too close to him, you know
what I'm saying, And like, if I move, he's gonna fall.
And if I don't move, well then it it closed
up my airspace where he's gonna have the I'm gonna
shoot lower percentage. It's impossible. So he's like, look now
he's he there, there's other guys there. I totally disagree
the idea that Steve Kerr doesn't like what he heard

(01:17:17):
that's exactly what you want a coach wants to hear.
Does that? Look, I'm into the hole. This is what
we want to do. We want to react to the defense,
take what the defense gives us. If the defense wants
to leave Patrick Beverlely on an island by himself, well okay,
we'll take care of that. But if they want to
make him drive everybody off the three point line and

(01:17:38):
then be into help, then we got to drive off
three point line and kicked at the open man. Those
guys have to make shots. So uh, look, Nick and
I disagree. He obviously doesn't think HIGHI of Kevin Durant.
He thinks he's a very good score, but thinks that
somehow he's missing something. I love the idea that Kevin
Durant doesn't have as scores ego, Like, dude, if he

(01:18:01):
shoots too much, he's got he's too selfish. If he
shoots too little, he's not selfish enough. When he needed to.
In the last two NBA Finals, he was the best
player on the floor in the second half of you know,
four of the five games both series, and this is
probably why he leaves Golden State. By the way, when

(01:18:23):
he was in the game at the end of the
game before he fouled out, who does Golden State go to? Like,
you can tell me that Steph Curry's there, go to
their best player, but he's not give the ball to
your best player. He's a cheat code seven footer who
he can't block his shot, and they're having to commit
at least two of not two and a half guys
to him. Ryme music, What were you thinking. Isn't it

(01:18:50):
the fact that Steph Curry. Everyone's like, Oh, when Steph
Curry's cooking, then they're a much better team. Well, couldn't
you say that for almost any NBA team where if
your second best player is playing at their highest level,
then of course you're gonna be a much better team.
Like it's one of those analysis points that people say

(01:19:10):
that in just from a pure logic standpoint, it holds
true for any team, like, of course, if Steph curR
Is gonna score forty points, they're gonna be good because
then they also have Kevin Durant who can score forty points. Like, yeah,
that makes a ton of sense. That doesn't mean that
he's a better player than Kevin Durant. Well, look what
what happens with with Steph Curry is the way in

(01:19:32):
which he scores, the way when he goes on these runs,
it's so spectacular, it's so unlike anything we maybe have
ever seen that, and he can score it in such
a hurry, right, because because the math of three verses
two that you're like, oh my god. And you know
he's six two six three as opposed to seven p tall,

(01:19:54):
So there's a flair Tawi scores. There's a drama to
how he scores. It been so quickly the ball rips
through the net. Would that we do lose sight of
the fact that he's a high turnover guy. He's better,
but still they hide him defensively, right And Kevin Durant meanwhile,

(01:20:14):
whether it's body blows or pick up jump pull up
jump shots like our mid rain shots, or occasionally three
point shots. And because he's so big, I do think
we take a little bit for granted all the different
things that he's doing. And Steph was amazing in in
game one, amazing, amazing. Here's that Collin cow hurdle Today

(01:20:35):
giving his thoughts on the Browns getting four primetime games
in two thousand nine, expectations my friends change everything. They
change everything. Cleveland has gonna be on Prime Time four
times this year. Oh they are no longer a movie
with a thirty five million dollar budget. The Cleveland browns

(01:20:56):
Now expectations. There a movie with a hundred and fifty
million dollar budget. Baker Mayfield silliness not so fun on
a two game losing streak, now, is it? They threw
a parade last year when they were seven, eight and one,
They don't go nine and seven. Heads gonna roll, namely
Freddy Kitchens, the rookie head coach who has never even

(01:21:18):
been hired by any other team as a coordinator. Mm hmm,
that's fast thing right, super super interesting. Um, look at that.
The expectations are going to change everything. They went from
a team that hadn't won a game to a team
that suddenly was, at least in the playoff discussion. We
we've pointed out that Baker Mayfield ten touchdowns live interceptions

(01:21:41):
against the good teams, and they beat up on the
worst teams in their schedule, and so they'll have a
better schedule, more important games, and more expectations. But they
do have even more talent than they had last year.
So it does change things. And I think it's gonna
be fascinating for Freddy Kitchens because is all he had
to do was open up the playbook and looked better

(01:22:04):
than the previous staff, which was dysfunctional. Head looked. Now
he's got to actually win games. Former NFL GM and
DR NFL draft expert Scott mccluhan joined the show last year.
He loved Baker Mayfield. Does he feel the same about
Kyler Murray when he draft a five ten, five, nine
and a half whatever quarterback who can really run number

(01:22:28):
one overall when he had a quarterback drafted last year.
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(01:22:53):
out about the NFL schedule. In the Browns four primetime games,
Baker Mayfield against the Ravens twice, Chargers, Steelers, Texans, Broncos. Okay,
and Broncos weren't even good last year. But this is
against the better teams that he played against. Ten touchdowns,
eleven receptions, completion percentage and the record was two and four, So,

(01:23:19):
you know, congratulations. I think that the the the hope
is there, the talent is there, but there's a lot
of hype. And year two, I don't know if i've
I've told you guys this year two is like having

(01:23:42):
you know, three year olds. Everybody always says the Terrible
twos of the worst, you know, it's worse threes because
you assume, well, they've already been the terrible twos, it
couldn't be any worse. You know. By now, they've transitioned
to some form of of you know, a big girl
or a big boy panties underwear and a big boy

(01:24:05):
or big girl bed. But they're still just three years old.
They still get tired. They've eliminated the nap. Sometimes they're
going to preschool. You know, you give them, but more
than anything, you give them more responsibility because they're three.
Forgetting that they're just three. This is the same with
second second year quarterbacks as opposed to rookie quarterbacks. Like now,

(01:24:27):
Baker Mayfield has expectations because he started at quarterback. He's
got an entire off season, but the end of the day.
He still hasn't started an entire season. You know, he's
still right now a year removed from playing at the
University of Oklahoma, Like he's still just a kid. And

(01:24:49):
yet you're gonna give him more freedom, a bigger playbook.
You're gonna get more expectations and granted and give him
more toys to work with. But he still hasn't even
started sixteen games. So it's not like he has so
much history to draw on in terms of what he's
seeing and what he wants to do. But the guy
who told us last year mid season, hey, I'll tell

(01:25:12):
you the number one quarterback should be and will be
is Baker Mayfields. Our next guest, he's Scott mclooney is
a former general manager of the Nation Football League. Kind
of have to spend some time with us. He's a
draft guru now per per trade. Um, well, I I
do want to get to this year's draft. But how
how I've always thought that second year quarterbacks are almost

(01:25:33):
uh more difficult than rookie quarterbacks because rookies you don't
give him the full playbook. The fans don't have great expectations, owners, coaches,
they all have patients because you go, well, he's just
a rookie. You know, we're a second year quarterbacks. You
give more of the playbook and there's greater expectations. Do
you think that actually happens in real life? Yeah? No,

(01:25:53):
I totally agree, by the way to thanks for having me.
But the main thing about it is, you know, like
you said, we're really quarterback. There's expectations because you're drafted
them where if your first pick, ten pick, fifteen pick, whatever.
But what it does if they do play enough games
that rookie year, the defensive coordinators you're playing against next

(01:26:15):
year are studying the whole off season, you know, so
they're gonna realize what you can and can't do, or
your your best attributes or your biggest negatives. And that's
what's so important. And the good ones are able to adjust,
you know, and and understand now because you gotta figure
with Cleveland. Freddie was calling the players, you know, the

(01:26:36):
second half of the season, you know, and of course
Baker had an excellent second half of the season. But
these coordinators, defense coordinators, they're smart too. They're going to
figure out what he can it can do and how
to attack them. Yeah, I'm gonna do probably what the
Chargers did, right, I mean the Chargers really trying to
kind of build a wall. They can throw over the wall,
make him throw outside the numbers. Um. But we'll see.

(01:26:58):
Now obviously it's different with Odell Beckham Jr. All Right, Uh,
this year, this year, Kyler Murray, if you are back
being a genlemanager of the Nation Football League, like Kyler
Murray has been described to me as he's Mike Mike
Vick needs Doug Flutie. Um. Is that is that close
to accurate? Oh? Yeah, definitely, definitely. You know, I do
a lot of work for multiple teams. You know, it's

(01:27:19):
a consultant during the fall and during the course during
the spring. Um, he's the best college football player. I
saw this ship position do. Uh, So he's the best.
So you would take him number one overall. Well, you know,
he's gotta be able to he gotta have the coordinator
on board. You gotta have coach on board, the corterback
coach on board, because you have to put your system

(01:27:42):
to what fits in the best. You know, if you
want him to a step back and you know, and
try to steal over offensive linement, defensive lineman, then you
get the wrong guy, but I understand as a pure
football player coming out of college, he's the best I
saw this year. But I think he will be a
good pro because everywhere he's been he's one. It's I mean, I,

(01:28:02):
A and M would be the only place that he didn't.
But you know that that that was for such a
short period period of time. Okay, So here's the other
part though, that you know Scott mcluin joining us in
the Doug Gollip Show that I don't know if people
just think, well, he might be a little smaller than Baker,
but he's got as good or a better arm, and
he's faster than Baker. But Baker Mayfield has this this

(01:28:25):
quarterback thing, this takeover room personality. Hell, he's taken over
the entire city, let alone the franchise, and Kyler doesn't
have that. Kyler's got a little a Lonzo ball to him,
and that you know, his dad controls a lot of stuff,
um and his dad kind of speaks for him. Or
do you have any concerns over leadership because that's a

(01:28:47):
a at least a portion of the equation that makes
a great quarterback. Well, the thing about it is, I
I think you know when he first started his interviews
for the NFL. Um you know, but come down the
draft and stuff like that, he didn't know for sure
what he want to do. Do you want to play
baseball or play football? Which it's a great option to have.
You know, I've been lucky enough to be around Brett Farve,

(01:29:09):
who's definitely vocal and go get her, and Baker Maysfield
is vocal and go get her. But Russell Wilson is
not a real vocal guy. You know, he's he's he's
a hacking football player, get me wrong, and you go
in with those guys. I think, you know, I've never
met you know, Kyler in person. I mean I've seen
a lot of interviews and stuff in the combine interviews

(01:29:30):
and stuff like that. Um, I think he's a very
genuine guy. But if you're looking for a raw rock
guy that's gonna grab people and sick, here we're going
right now. No matter what, I don't know if he's
that guy. Now I'm not saying he can't be, because
like I said, I have not met him. But you
have to get that figured out because at that position
it's so important. You know, everybody sees Brady, you know,

(01:29:52):
nice guy, you know, good looking guy, great wife, alas stuff.
But it comes game day, he's after him. He's he's
on r butts. I mean, he's like, listen, we gotta
do this, this, this and this, and if you're not
coming with me and stay on the bench. You know.
I think that's so important in the NFL because it's
such a long season, especially the young quarterback. You know,
there's so much throwing at him, especially if he's the

(01:30:14):
first pick. You know, Baker was unique because he had
the hit factor in my opinion, that was like, I
don't care what you throw at me. I'm gonna play
my ball. I'm gonna play the way I play and
if I make mistakes, so be it. You know. You
other ones are like you know, they sit back and
it's like, whoa, I'll never be careful. You know, I'm
not doing the right right things at the right time,

(01:30:34):
and the coaches are yelling at me, and I take
it personal. You know, you can't be that way. You
gotta have thick skin. I want to ask you about
the other quarterbacks. Dwayne Haskins is a guy who's only
stirred a year um in a clean pocket. He's really good.
I saw the Penn State game and I didn't love it.
You know, like, um, nobody looks great in the muddy pocket,

(01:30:55):
but boy, he looked like a completely different guy. What's
your event of dayne Haskins. You know, I like him.
I like him, you know, I like a size. I
like his arm strength. I like the fact that he
opportunity started one year only, which is kind of scary,
but started took Tribisky in the year before. You know
that you can go back and forth with the year started.
The gas touchdowns. I mean, you can't do that in

(01:31:18):
high school in one season, you know. And he did
in in Division one, big time ball, you know. So
he's got a lot of golf for him. What I
hear and what I see when I watched the interviews
and talking to people is that he's legit football guy
through and through, I mean, intelligence, work, ethic, you know,
it's all very very important to him, and I'd be

(01:31:40):
surprised if he's not the same quarterback to go. Okay,
A couple of interesting ones. The Tyree Jackson kid, who's
gigantic right uh, He's six seven, fifty pounds and a
legit athlete, but seen as a bit of a project. Um,
what what's your what's your? Alan Tyree Jackson? I like him.

(01:32:02):
I like him, you know, and the thing about it,
you know, come from Buffalo, not knocking the movie, the program, whatsoever.
In the division you know, playing with well, that's for competition.
I like him. You know. He's uh, like you said,
he's big, you know, and the thing is unique about it,
as you got strong on um, you can make all
the furrows, of course, but he's a good athlete for
the size he is, and and that's what you need

(01:32:22):
because nowadays, you know, you can spread it out and
have a one back set. You know, you have to
have mobility because you know, you can have three sters
on the field and maybe a tight inflex style. So
now you're down one blocker and you if you have
no full back and the running back has to pick
up you know, the blitz or whatever. But for his
size and what he showed on tape, it's pretty cool

(01:32:46):
because he can move for a big guy. Yeah, yeah,
no he's not. He's not Byron Left Whish like people
forget Byron Left, which was the statue is gigantic, but
a statue back there as opposed to this guy who
can can really really move Scott out Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's He's not borroing, not at all. Scott mccluan joining
us in the Doug Gotlan Show on Fox Sports Radio. Uh.

(01:33:07):
Many people believe Nick Bosa is the best pass rusher
uh in this draft, the best defense players. Some people
have him the best prospect in this draft. How big
is the gap between Bosa and Josh Allen or Bosa
and Rashaan Gary Bosa and some of those other guys
that kind of and Quinnon Williams, how big is the
gap in your mind? Well, the good thing about it

(01:33:29):
is what was started the first question. Botha and Allen
they're different players. You know, Bosa is gonna be two
hundred seventy two eight pounds coming in. You know, Allan's
coming in at two fifty. You know, so you know,
the both good football players. But I think BOTHA gives
you is for sixteen game season, hopefully longer with the playoffs.

(01:33:49):
He gives you more durability, you know, knowing that he's
got the size, substance, bone mass where there's less trances
him getting hurt. You know. With Alan, you know he
wins with speeding quickness, you know, and when when when
I first did Alan and I saw him as a
three four outside linebacker and I saw botha I saw

(01:34:11):
him a four three end or three four end, you know,
and maybe slapping inside and sub packages, you know. The
player of the guard. I mean, he's strong, he's strong,
he's got really good hand used but Allan's good. Um,
you know, Gary, I like Gary Lot. I think Gary
will be a better NFL football player than worlds college
football player. He's because just his mannerisms, his his is

(01:34:35):
intangible physically, and I just you gotta find the right spot,
which I think the three technique, but you also play
five technique. I just feel as one of those things.
And every year I get a guy like this, like
my gut Feeland says, you know, we had three and
a half sacks or whatever this year, you know, which
is not good. Don't get me wrong, because you love production,

(01:34:55):
especially defensive lineman. But I did just feel he's gonna
be a better pro than college player, you know. And
then there's there's two tight ends out of Iowa, fant
and Hockinson. Hockinson's the more highly regarded Fantsy guy that
was like a slot wide receiver who bulked up to
become a tight end, whereas Hockinson actually can block um

(01:35:17):
and if you look at people, it's it's interesting that
this isn't a great wide receiver draft, but it might
be a great tight end draft. How good do you
think t. J. Hockenson is gonna be? You know, I
think it's gonna be good. You know, people are trying
to compare to Wit and stuff like that. He's not
that big, it's not that powerful, you know, the blockers.
But the thing is he my opinion, he's the best guy.

(01:35:38):
You know, fans, they're totally different animals. Hockinson, you know,
can play in line, which we call why you know,
we're fans more of a you meaning he's like an
h back slash flexed out tight end, big receiver, you know,
and they both have really good qualities, but if you
want them all around tight end, it's Hackinson. All right,

(01:35:59):
We about these guys he did like you did, Like,
give me somebody who everybody else likes, who you're not
in love with. I can't do that. I don't want
to knock anybody. You know. Um, the draft a good draft,
it always is. It thinks it's own identity on by positions.
Each year, you know, people are gonna say, you know,
like this year, the D line, it's it's incredible. It's

(01:36:21):
probably the best I've seen in my twenty six years overall.
And that's you know, interior guys, which is phenomenal because
it's so hard to find, but also with defensive ends
and splash outside linebackers on three four, Um, you know,
I think it's a good tight end draft, you know,
I think you know, there's always gonna be running backs
from receivers taken somewhere. You know. The offensive lines okay,

(01:36:43):
not great, but they're good enough for some people who
help themselves, you know. But the you know, safety is
pretty powerful up top. There's not a lot of depth
down end, but up top it's it's pretty solid. Um.
You know, there there's players. You know. The thing about
is what I do with my consult I'm not at
the combine, you know, I'm not sitting down with them
face to face. And that was always so important to

(01:37:04):
me because you can see the talent quick on tape,
you know, or at practice or on a school call
or whatever. But you gotta gets norm as people and
those are the those are the ones that you know.
Everybody says, well, the first round is so important, which
it is, but you know those guys from the fourth
or seventh, that's how you build. That's what we did
in Seattle. I mean we we we we nailed it.
And see how I'm doing that, you know, And that's

(01:37:26):
how you build a roster. Last question, you're real quick.
We gotta we gotta run. Is okay? So we talked
about Kyler and he talked about all things you like
about him, Um Josh Rosen saying, you know, basically it's
it's annoying. But he didn't he didn't say like, hey,
he didn't make it seem like he knew exactly what
was going to happen. Am I wrong to think if

(01:37:48):
he doesn't know what's gonna happen, we know what's gonna happen.
He's gonna get traded and they're gonna draft a quarterback. Yeah,
you know, I'm not you know, I don't come, well,
Steve come, of course, I'm not in the building. So
I know there is if if if he's available in
Industar's draft, he's my number two quarterbacks, number two, you know,

(01:38:08):
so he's if they do go Tyler's which you know
who knows he is very tradable because he's honest, rookie deal.
The signs signing bonus has already been paied, you know,
and he's still young. A great stuff. Scott Scott mccluan
joining us. Scott, thanks so much of your time. Than
all right from Scott, will go to Ennis Cantor, the

(01:38:30):
former member of the Thunder has been wreaking havoc on
his former team. How does it feel to be up
to oh, especially with him coming at him all the
time defensively. We'll ask him start shot with his opinions.
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brought to you by a discovered card. We treat you
like you'd treat you and as Candrew joins the show
from the Portland's Trailblazers and uh and this, how does
it feel to be up to games and none in
your former team? It's feeling amazing, man. You know, I
think we've been playing a really good basketball and obviously
that we had the home court advantage and being up

(01:39:35):
to to two. Oh, it definitely wasn't really important to us,
and we got it. So I think it's uh, lost
is good for now? Um, yeah, look, they've they've tried
to go at you defensively. What's it like when they're
they're they're trying to go at you on the pick
and roll time and again and they end up having

(01:39:55):
a kick out for mystery point shots. Well, I think
I like, like I said, before the you know, um,
before the series, do we sit down with the old
assisting coaches and say they told me, hey, you know
they're gonna attack you, right, I'm like, yes, I know,
hund percent they're gonna attack me picking up. I think
it's just defense is all about communication and trust. And

(01:40:19):
I think the first two games, we we did a
really good job on communicating with the wanted each other
and then just trusting each other. I think I think
our picking out courage has been pretty good, and I
feel really confident and I a littally more comfortable out there,
and it's cancer joining us on the Doug Otlip Show
on Fox Sports Radio. What about them? You know, they've
they've missed so many shots, and they're not a great

(01:40:42):
three point shooting team, but they're not this bad. What
what do you feel like their mood has been? You know,
when when we missed shots, it's hard to get guys
to buy in defensively, and then Damian Lillard and c
J are lightening them up to the other end. What
have they been like as they've they've struggled through these
first two games. I mean, like I said, especially the
first game, they were like five for thirty three or

(01:41:03):
I don't know, says something crazy, but I think you
know that we cannot just you know, just feel I mean,
obviously they missed some a lot of shots. But I
think our defense been really good. Uh And I think,
you know, just not just pick pickle role defense. But
I think Mo and Altro Gamina doing an amazing job

(01:41:24):
that guarding those prominent guys. And I think I think
we need to give credit to those guys too. All right, Um,
you've seen a lot of great performances, some on your team,
some against your team. What's it like to be part
of this thing with Dave? With Damian Lillard like he
he has this is I know it's not a one
on one matchup, but it feels like so far in
the one on one matchup he's been the winner. What's

(01:41:45):
it been like to be on his side? I mean,
it's crazy some of the shots he's making, Like I'm
sometimes I'm onna bench and I turned around to other
players like did he just really make that? It just
is that? I mean that shows I mean it's crazy
that just being on his side, because like he is

(01:42:06):
not just on the court. Off the court, he's an
amazing leader. I mean, you see, he's always the first
one in the gym shooting, he's always the first one
in the lifting weight room just lifting. He's always in
the first one in the media room for media session,
so video section. So I think not just on the
court of the court, he's an amazing leader. And the
one thing about him, he's making himself better and that's

(01:42:29):
and he's making anybody else better around him. I think
that's what makes them real Dame so special because I mean,
he's a very very good offensive player. At the same time,
people don't talk about it enough. His defense. I think
he's been an amazing if. He's an amazing job on
the defense too. And this cancer our guest on the

(01:42:49):
Doug galtlic Show on Fox Sports Radio. Um, what do
you expect to see from them in Game three? Oh? Well,
I think now. I mean, we are gonna be at
the We're gonna be at the Tester Big Arena. I
expect them to be way more aggressive. And you know,
I think but the only thing we need to do

(01:43:12):
is just man, just go out there and just play basketball.
Just worry about us, because I mean, if they lose
the game, the game three, then uh, they're in big,
big trouble. So I think, so they are gonna be
very aggressive and they're definitely going to attack the rim more.
Do you consider Steven Adam still a friend? Are you? Guys? Boys?

(01:43:35):
We are very good friends. I actually we all we
actually text every after games. So what what have what
have his texts been like now last couple how have Youven?
We haven't texted yet, But I'm just waiting for a
game to three to be over. But but and then
after after the game to the I'm gonna text, it's like, hey,
let's go out to eat or let's go to be

(01:43:55):
or something. I mean, we it's on the court. It's
it's a battle. It's a war. You know, on the court,
there's no friends. He's not my friend, I'm not I'm
not his friend and he knows that. And it's it's
just a fun sight of it because I worked with
him and he worked with me for two a half years,
and we learned a lot from each other. But I
think when the game started, it's a war. But he

(01:44:15):
didn't learn no, no, no, no, he didn't learn anything
from you. He cannot shoot, he cannot score, and you
didn't learn anything from him because you can't rebound and
play defense like he can't. You stop with you. We
learned something from each other. But I promise if you
see the process that he made that I remember. I
mean he looked at his post stop game, lookated his
old touches around the rim sokt his picking roll game.

(01:44:38):
I think he I compared to what he was three
years ago. He's doing an amazing job. Okay, who was
in the game. Was it you or Myers who was
in the game when when Dame got screened and he
didn't see it and he ran into Adams. Um, I
think you was Myers. Yeah, I think it was Myers.
I mean, like listen that they would have been there
would have been you couldn't go back to Turkey and

(01:44:59):
you wouldn't be a looking back to Portland if you
were the guy who didn't call call screen. Well, I
mean that's that's that's a that's a big guy one
on one he goes after Steven Adams. That's myers fault, right,
Meyer's gonna tell them, tell him that picks coming. I mean,
I can Myers doing an amazing job. Man, He's been
doing an amazing job. Just uh. I mean you saw
many games too. I mean he was the he was

(01:45:21):
the key. I mean I think with his defense, hey
against Steven Adams, I think he's been an amazing job.
He's a Can't you imagine running to Steven Adams being
Damian Lillard size, I mean your size, You run into
Steven Adams and it hurts. I can't imagine being Damien
large body is like his only Game two and my
whole body I feel it. I feel I feel like

(01:45:44):
I'm like five years older, just because they're going against
Steven Adams. Two games. All right, what's your what's your spot? No,
Kloma City? Where are you going? Are you going to dinner? Oh? Well, uh,
I have a really really good two two restaurants. There's
actually really good restaurants called Flint. Yeah, a very good,
very good restaurants. I might just go to uh tomorrow

(01:46:07):
or the next day, but I'm still yeah, you still
got you got Mahogany as well. I know everybody likes
to hit up Mahogany because it's close and you know.
Um anyway, well, listen, thanks for joining us. Best of
luck in game three and four. Rest up that bruised body.
We appreciate you. All right. That's Ah. That's Ennis Cantor,
who joined us as they're getting ready to try and

(01:46:28):
take back his town like Oklahoma City kind of sneakily,
sneakily has really placed hatch Okcloma City. That's right, had
breakfast last time I was there, dullish, Let's get you
to Isaac loewen Kron. Alright, what you got, my man, Doug?
This afternoon in the Oakland, A's announced that they've signed
outfielder Chris Davis to a two year extension through one.

(01:46:52):
Jeff pass And reports the deals were thirty three point
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I like to take this opportunity to publicly demand an
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(01:47:16):
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Tom Coughlin called out quarterback Jalen Ramsey and linebacker Telvin
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(01:47:37):
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Jason lo con For reported that former Titans and Rams
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(01:47:58):
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(01:49:07):
to say about Kyrie Irving. I think that shows you
more the issue from the Pacers standpoint, not having that
one truly great player in their case would be all
the depot. And I think that's the difference. You saw
it last night where Kyrie's ability to score against great
defense systems are really wonderful in the regular season when
you don't have time to prepare, But when you get

(01:49:28):
in the postseason and we're focused on one team and
we can make adjustmente for game to game, the one
thing you struggle to adjust to is great players. Yeah.
I mean, like, listen, if you if my best player
is better than your best player. You know, that's the
thing the Warriors have always depended upon. Is like end
of the day, the defense cranks up. We got the

(01:49:49):
three best shot makers in the league. We get three
best it's a shotmakers league, and we got the three
best shot makers in the league. So there you go. Um,
And last night in Boston, the best player on the
floor was the guy who took over throughout the game
and was virtually unguardable. So I you know, I completely understand,

(01:50:17):
completely understand the value of Kyrie Irving. I'm not sure
fans do. There's this weird thing they have with him
and I I'll fully admit that Kyrie can drive you
crazy where the simple play will do, and sometimes he
does a little bit too much. I don't think he's
terribly easy to play with. He's overly demanding and maybe

(01:50:39):
doesn't have the right ability to translate his emotions to
his teammates in terms of how he wants them to compete,
how he wants to play, how he wants to lead.
This is a new thing for him. But but he's
also just a Dudd score, a fearless score at that,

(01:51:04):
and he can pass and when challenged, and play enough defense.
We got to this point where we've forgotten that whether
it was Isaiah Thomas or anybody before him, the guy
who has been the go to guard for the Boston
Celtics has had a way, way better experience playing for
Brad Stevens that he had at anytime previously. So you

(01:51:28):
tell me, you give me one of the best and
not the best, scoring guard in the league, and you
put him on a coach that has found ways to
create the right matchups in space for scoring guards that
are inferior to him previously, and it wouldn't ultimately work.
That that goes counter to every bit of history we've
seen with Brad Stevens, And sure enough, now it is working.

(01:51:49):
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gets us the stories of the day. I'll give you
the reaction of the afternoon. We call it the press,
the press. Isaac. What he got not a couple of
Giants items here starting with say Kwan Barkley. And he
was asked by Kimberly Jones of NFL Network about the

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perception that remains out there by fans in the New
York area that they still would have rather the Giants
drafted Sam Donald instead of him, despite the incredible Pro
Bowl season he had last year. Barkley said, quote, If
a Rookie of the Year doesn't sway that mindset, I
don't know what will. Unquote the Giants, the Giants, the Giants,

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the Giants, the Giants. Um. Look, I think take on
Barkley's terrivik, but you gotta win more games. You win
more games your quarterback play. And Dave Kettleman obviously disagrees,
and he's he's probably thinking, this is what we did
in Carolina, even though we have a big name quarterback

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in Carolina, we needed a running game, we needed a defense,
we needed offensive defensive line, defensive backfield. That's how we won,
not with quarterback play. We'll see. I just I think
they were in a unique position last year to get
a quarterback in a quarterback heavy draft, and they could
have gotten the quarterback that they wanted and kept him
from the Jets, and they into that and along those lines,

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this was actually said earlier today by Giants general manager
Dave Gentleman at his pre draft news conference, saying, no
matter what, they're gonna take the best player available, regardless
of position. They've got the six pick and the seven
teams pick in the first round. Gettleman says, quote I'm
just telling you I'm not going to force a pick.
You can't draft for need. You'll be screwed every time

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you'll make a mistake, no exceptions, no special category, unquote,
not even for a quarterback, says gentleman. I mean, listen,
he hasn't purported himself to being a liar, So that's
the way he thinks. And the idea of staying true
to your board and taking the best player available, that's great.
But they got a lot of holes they need to fill.

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They need that, you know, they need their offensive line
to be better. They don't need another running What about
if a running back was on the board, did he
take one? Of course he wouldn't. So uh, it's it's
a convenient way, uh, fitting into his own narrative. You know,
I didn't know this un till just a few minutes ago.
Oklahoma's Marquise Brown considered one of the top receivers in

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this year's draft. Yes, he's the cousin of Antonio Brown.
But Markiss does not have a beef with Ben Well
does not have beef with Ben Roethlisberger. Not. He actually said,
telling NFL media, I love Pittsburgh. They have a Hall
of fame quarterback. I would love to play there, says

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Marcus Brown, despite being the cousin of Antonio Brown. That's smart.
Whoever is advising him is smart guy. Right, it's all
about media relations. He doesn't take that. I mean, he
doesn't take that much, but yeah. Jeff Schultz of The
Athletic reports that the Falcons and Julio Jones are not

(01:55:48):
far apart on a new contract and a deal could
be finalized in the next few weeks. Last year that
he sat out a day and he got his deal
kind of reworked. Yeah. Yeah, I have no problem with
Julio Jones getting things done. The issue with it, um.
The issue with with Julio Jones is at some point

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his production will wayne because he's taken a lot of
hits and he's been hurt a little bit. But he's
a stud indeed, including from a notable athlete about tiger
woods performance in the Masters on Sunday, in his first
public comments reacting to tiger woods victory at Augusta, his

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one time social companion and running mate Michael Jordan called
it the greatest comeback he's ever seen. He said to
the Athletics David Aldridge, I never thought he'd get back physically.
I took two years off to play baseball, but nothing
like that. I'm pretty sure he questioned himself whether he
could get it back, but he took it head on,

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unquote so high praise from his airness. Honestly, now we've
had a couple of days removed, can you think of
a better comeback? No, not even close, not even close.
Considering an anecdote, and this sums it up as well
as any anything. This happened either in twi or seventeen,
but Tiger told Time magazine that there was one occasion

(01:57:13):
where he fell in his backyard and couldn't get up. Yeah,
you know when we were kids, the Life Alert commercial,
that's right, And he didn't have his phone with him
and he just had to lie down in his backyard,
not moving until his daughter happened upon him. And two
or three years later he wins the Master's Crazy. I mean,

(01:57:34):
last year at the Master's Champions tinner, he had to
have some nerve blocker just so he could sit down. Man,
it's really unbelievable. I mean, like, look Virginia in terms
of as a team, you know, coming back from losing
to a sixteen seed. But uh, personal comeback, it's pretty amazy.
Ben Hogan's up there as well. There's other personal Um,
what about Josh Hamilton's Yeah, that's true. That was that

(01:57:58):
was very complicated. Josh JOHNH. Challeton. His grandma locked him
in her in like a room and her trailer or
something like that because he was so hes such a
crack addict until he got clean. She game three hots
and a cot and that's how he got clean. He
became the an n L M v P. So that's that.
That's one. But but your body failing you as well

(01:58:19):
as drugs, you know, with prescription pain pills. Um, that's
pretty amazing when he did. Yeah, I mean that was
also within the last couple of years where he was,
you know, pulled over on that on the side of
that high wind, Florida and he thought he was in California.
Two years later, he wins the Masters at Augusta, San Francisco.
Forty nine quarterback and reputed good looking guy Jimmy Garoppolo

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is aiming to be fully cleared in time for training camp.
He now says he hopes to be available for seven
on seven work during O t A S and should
be fully cleared to completely participate in training camp. According
to the San Francisco Chronicle. M kind of surprising, not
fully there it already, but I mean similarly because Vielia

(01:59:04):
Carson wentz. He tore his knee later in the year,
and I guess, yeah, I guess he didn't get fully cleared. Okay, Um,
they got a lot of money tied up into Garoppolo.
There's some people who I was convinced he was the
next deal, and he hasn't been. But he hasn't played enough,
so we'll find out. And finally, it was announced earlier
today that Texas Texas Jared Culver, the reigning Big twelve

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Player of the Year, has declared for the NBA Draft
or after helping lead the Texas tech Raiders to the
National Championship Game. Not surprising news at all. Now, Remember
guys can leave even even signed with an agent, and
still come back to school now, but I don't think
Jared Culver is coming back to schooling out there and pressed.

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On the other hand, there's so much movement it gonna
be a thousand transfers. It's really anyone who says, well,
I got this top twenty five for next year you
got no idea. Kyle guy Ty, Jerome DeAndre Hunter, all
three starters from the National Championship Virginia Cavaliers have all declared.
To this point, we think they're staying in the draft,
but we don't know. We don't know. Got some great

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games tonight in the NBA, or at least interesting games tonight.
I do think there's going to be at least one
what I would call f you game from Kevin Durant.
I don't know if it's tonight. I don't know if
it's the deciding like Game five. I feel like there's
gonna be one game where they're gonna tighten up the
whistle on Patrick Beverley being able to get underneath him,
and Duran's gonna go like whatever the percentages are, I

(02:00:33):
gotta go in early and I'm just gonna go and score.
But one of the things that you have to understand
about having a guy underneath you in basketball, like these guys,
the one thing you never do is you never push
a guy or touch a guy once he's up in
the air, because he feels like he's not in control

(02:00:54):
of when he comes down, and you never You're not
supposed to stink get underneath the guy when he shoots
the basketball again, because if he can't come down and land,
he fears landing on your foot. You land on somebody
else's foot, you sprain your knee or hurt your knee
or even worse. And you know, so I I totally
get that. That Durant, who's you know, he's got kind

(02:01:16):
of that giraffe like legs. The last thing he wants
is somebody underneath him. It just makes him feel completely uneasy.
My guess is there'll be a game, and maybe it's
tonight where he just goes like, all right, I'm just
gonna score thirty nuggets. Spurs is tonight. That's fascinating, right,
Spurs went in and stole Game one, and then that

(02:01:36):
seventy sixers, And we have that story about the Philadelphia
seventy sixers where Brett Brown is so they're so used
to him being the nice guy that when he went
off on them, they're like, wow, you get mad? Who knew?
That's because Brett Brown wasn't brought in to be the
hard driving coach to win these championship games. He was
brought in to make sure just be the encouraging coach

(02:01:57):
and just get everybody. You know, it's like coaching youth
sports and then once you start coaching, you know, to
win a an AU championship or you start competing in
high school or in college. But it really matters like,
we don't need as much of a childer now now
we're trying to win. Now, we need strategic stuff. Now,
we need guys being held accountable as opposed to don't

(02:02:19):
worry about it, guys, we know you're losing. Uh, you know,
fifty games a year. We gotta be the encouraging coach.
Be interesting to see if he can hold on there,
he can evolve as a coach as they try and
involve as players. Um hm, I do think the Nets
win one more game at home. I do think the
Nuggets win a game in the road, And I think

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the Warriors win tonight. Wouldn't be surprised me. It wouldn't
surprise me. Of all three road teams win tonight, wouldn't
surprise me at all. All Right, so tomorrow we'll recap
these games, get you ready for the weekend's games, and
then we're a week away from the NFL Draft. But
you can hear a great draft show. Jay Glazer Joe Clatt,
Chris Spielman, Rob Stone on Fox Sports Radio. Don't forget

(02:03:01):
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