The College Football Playoff Committee Got It Right

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome in to
the Doug Gotlive Show Daily Podcast. I get it. I'm
supposed to sit here and go I hate the college
football Playoff, but I kind of like what they did
rankings wise. I mean, I I legit like it. Yep,
I like it. I like it. I like it. I

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like it, and I'm gonna tell you why. Plus Orlando
Brown will join us from the Ravens. Give his sense
on Lamar Jackson, Christopers Hard to join us, who is
very much against load management. Let's go Boom. What up, America,
Doug Gottleib Show, Fox Sports Radio. Man, I hope you're
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updates and games and the press. Ryan Music and Cindy
Katz Co producing this memo Gemma and of course the
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the ones and two is welcome in. I hope you're ready.
Kevin Clark from The Ringer will join us. We'll go
through all the litany of issues, including including Freddie Kitchens

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maybe honing in on what the biggest issue is by
his estimation with the Browns. Orlando Brown, whose dad played
for the Browns, did there? Son of Zeus or Lando
Brown Ravens offensive line, will join us. We'll get his
take on what's it like to play with Lamar Jackson
and this offense that runs the football so well. Chris Bruce, sorry,

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will join us. No days off, no load management. But
I don't actually understand the critique of load management. I
just don't don't get it. Don't understand the critique of
load management, right like you didn't know this was coming.
And by the way, probably really smart if you can

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get away with it, it's super smart. And think about
this for except a second. Would you rather play eight
two games or sixty? Man? All right? More in that
to come get to that talk Lakers last night. They'll
come back. But but let me get let me get
to the college football Playoff poll. Now one, I'm not

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going to freak out over the rankings, because here's the
other part. Number one and number four play each other.
Number one and number two and number three play each other.
The The only thing this hurts the CBS this weekend,
which I don't I don't know if there there's five
people that aren't gonna watch the game as because it's

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two verses three as opposed to one versus two, Right, Like,
is anybody gonna go? Like, you know, I was going
to watch l s U Alabama, but one's ranked two,
one's ranked three doesn't mean that much to me. If
if Alabama was number one, then I would watch. But
outside of that, whoever wins this game is going to

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be ranked number one next week and then they could
be vaulted by whoever wins the Ohio State Penn State game. Right,
if Penn State remains undefeated, they have to go to
Minnesota and take on p J Fleck and the Golden Gophers,
who PJ just got a new contract extension. So um,

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I'm I'm gonna sit here and tell you that this
is a good thing, that the four team playoff is
a good thing. It's the only remaining elite party in sports.
Everyone else has expanded, everyone else has watered down the product.
Every one else has hurt the idea of who the

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true champion is. Separate college football, baseball. We just had
a wild card team win the wild card game, win
a series against the Dodgers, and then ultimately take down
the Houston Astros. You go back five years ago, six
years ago, and it would have been different. Right. We

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want exclusivity, that's that's that's part of that, That's part
of what drives up these rights agreements, right. We want
something special, that's something that's unique. I mean, um, the
wave of the future in television is you know, streaming

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and digital stuff, right, But why has Netflix made it?
Netflix didn't make it because they went from being you know,
Blockbuster where you could put it in the mail, to
where you could stream it. Net Flix made it because
in addition to that, they had unique content. They were
the only place in which you could stream friends, right,

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the only place where you could stream um the office.
And then they started producing their own unique content. So
I'll just get Netflix. Wait, hold on, if you just
get Netflix, you can't watch Jack Ryan. Amazon has Amazon
Prime not only they have movies and shows that you
can only get there, like Netflix, but they're also producing

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their own content, which is made Disney go like, hold
hold on, hold on, Hey, they bought up a bunch
of stuff. They bought up Fox TV, student, Foxes movie
studios in the movie. They have all the movies, but
they also have unique content. This is unique. This is
exclusive and unlike any other sport. There's a small number

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and you know what, I think it's great And and
as much as the rankings don't really matter, I'm does
it really matter? It does give you a little insight
into what they're thinking. It doesn't mean that Clemson will
end up being ranked fifth, because if Clemson wins out,
the other two of the teams that are ranked ahead

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of them will have one loss and they will very
very likely be in that top four. But what they're
saying is, hey, if push comes to shove, we are
less impressed with Clemson, less impressed with Bama because of
the teams in which they played. The only one I
would sit there and go like, hey, I kind of
think got screwed in this deal is Penn State probably

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should be ahead of Alabama. But it's not like Penn
State played a litany of rank foes out of conference
where you're going there, their schedules that much better. So
it doesn't matter because at the end of the day,
Clemson will be fine if they went out and only
two of the other four teams in the top five

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will remain undefeated. But they're giving you a little snapshot
in to what they're thinking as of now. They're not
completely out on Oregon. Probably were impressed based on how
they played and because of their strength of schedule and
the fact that they scheduled Auburn the game, which they
led for most of it. They're not the Pact twelve
is not totally dead. We want to emphasize strength of schedule,

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better out of conference games. And oh yeah, by the way,
we see the complaints of the NBA and the NFL
and their playoff formats and how they continue to expand.
The NFL wants to add the NBA already has teams
that are five dred, you know, making the playoff. It's
interesting in a sport which is rightfully accused of losing

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its soul because it's sold its soul for money. The
college Football Playoff, though put together to make a bunch
of money. This is really a plus one, right, It's
really a way of creative plus just one more game.
But at least they are about trying to find the
best team, which is not really what the n c
A Tournament's about, and not really what you totally find

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with baseball. Not really what you totally find with NBA basketball.
I guess basketball maybe, but you can't play a seven
game series, and oftentimes you guys aren't healthy enough at
the end of the year to truly get a sense
of who is and who isn't the best of the best.
The Raptors one, they weren't the best team last year.
The Warriors were. The Warriors are banged up because it's
just too many games, But I I like it. Ohio

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State has looked the best and played a competent schedule.
L s U has played a probably a superior schedule
and look good. Those are one A and one B.
It doesn't really matter that they ranked ahead of Alabama
and Penn State, two of their upcoming opponents. No, but
it does say, hey, we're paying attention to you played.
That's how I put Clemson fifth, And if push comes

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to shove, we're gonna take strength of schedule over strength
of name. That's what they're saying. And I think that's reasonable,
and I think that's a good thing, and I think
the exclusivity of four teams is a good thing. So
I watched last night and was the Reveal the greatest
reveal show ever? No, it's just four teams. I also

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truly believe that, Like, there's legitimate conversations about expanding to
six as well as eight, because if you go to six,
you're giving the five conference champions People say, well, that
waters down the regular season. It doesn't. It actually makes
your league championship. We're incredibly important. Which you don't realize
and most people don't realize, is like, look, if you

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add in another set of teams, somebody's going to play
a sixteen game. That's too many games because there's the
conference championship game, and then you'd have the first round,
the second round, in the third round. That's too many games.
Too many games to just I don't care. If you
have eighty five scholarships and too bye weeks, you're gonna
have kids falling. It's just too many injuries. You won't

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have the best of the best of the best. There
is no perfect system. There's no perfect nothing is there's
no perfect system. Right. You want no salary cap in sports,
That sounds great, but then you end up having the
haves and the have nots, not just in terms of
the teams, but also in terms of the salaries. Also also,

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you know, no salary cap in the NFL. Remember you're like, oh,
what would it be like with no salary cap? They
had no salary cap about a decade ago. Do you
know what happened? There's no ceiling, but there's also no
floor and a bunch of dudes got low balled and
teams didn't spend any money. Because so you want a
salary cap, that's fine. That means some guys will get
paid simply because there's money hanging around and you gotta
pay them to keep them. Now get overpaid. There's no

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perfect way of having instant replay review. You can't perfect.
So the world is imperfect and there's no perfect way
of having a playoff. I guy love who doesn't love
the n c A tournament sixty four teams, But let's
be honest, there's a team that's below five hund in
their league play really belong to play for national championship

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against other teams that lose one or two games, Like,
what is the what are we doing there? We spend
hours arguing this thing. I mean, even with that many
teams that the first team left out, it feels like
they get slided and then goes on a whining tour
the entire next two weeks. Right, and tell me the

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perfect system, and I'll show you one that doesn't. It's not. Actually,
it's totally imperfect. You know, the NFL and the division
champions get a home game. Remember when Seattle was under
five and they got a home game a couple of
years ago. No perfect system, there isn't. What just doesn't exist.
Let's let's see the NBA playoffs one through sixteen. Okay,

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well one, you don't have balanced schedules. Well, let's balance
the schedule. Okay too. Now of a sudden, you're gonna
completely screw up TV viewing. You know you're gonna have
Portland playing against Washington, and you know that doesn't that
doesn't make that there's a reason that this has And
by the way, all the historic rivalries are the NBA
finals of the past Lakers versus the Celtics. That goes away,

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so there's no perfect system, and I don't think the
Bowl system was perfect, and having dual national championships was bad,
but you're gonna have you with this, you will always
have a national champion and you always have the best
of the best. And no one is arguing how good
the teams at the top are. They're only arguing whether
or not one team who's not in that top four
could compete with them. And those are reasonable arguments to have.

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And it's reasonably think you should win a conference championship
and get a chance to play for a national championship.
But what a Northwestern had won the Big Tension championship
last year, they didn't win a nonconference game that got
to the Big Ten championship game? What do they won
that game? Do they deserve the right to play for
national championship? I argue no, Yes, Lebron James has played

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well so far the season, but there's something more impressive
about the Lakers I'll share with you next. Be sure
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got Leaves Show, Fox Sports Radio. Lebron was great last
night statistically thirty points, tenner, rebounds, tennisis third triple double

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row currently in the NBA, and assist per game. Um
the Lakers one that came from I think it was
sixteen down, sixteen down to come back and beat the
Chicago Bulls. That's pretty awesome, you know, just go in
and and the Bulls had complete control in the first half.

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What's what's what's fast day to be is what we're
doing that thing again? You know, we're doing this thing
like Nick Wright, like, God love him. Find someone who
loves you as much as Nick Wright loves Lebron James. Oh,
he's the back player right now. League, look at that
statch like okay, yeah, I mean yeah, okay, stats are

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really good of late. Um. But he was dominating the
game statistically, and they were getting their ass kicked, right,
they were, they were they They went on a sixteen
oh run when he wasn't in the game, right. So

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I'm not saying that that the triple doubles are, but
like this is what we did with Russell Westbrook. Like
a triple doubles does not mean you're playing great basketball.
It just doesn't doesn't. I mean, what what changed is
Kyle Kuzman's back. It gives them punch out the bench.

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He had eleven of his fifteen during their fourth quarter
route you know, thirty nineteen, I think is with what
they outscored the Bulls in the fourth quarter, and and
Lebron and then you know, and Anthony Davis came in
and closed up shop and he was good last night,
and he's been good. He's They're not reliant or totally

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on Lebron James, you know, but like when he played
the Spurs, like we're gonna be like a triple double
against the Spurs. Dude, he was eight of twenty three,
didn't make it three, he was five attempt from the
free throw line. He was not good shooting the ball.
They won, but that's partly because the Spurs are not good.
You know. Um, that's just kind of the reality of it.

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Like he was great against Dallas, great, really good. Um,
But you know, let's like, let's look at who they've
played against, and when he played, they got a very
favorable start to their schedule. They start off with the Clippers,
who they lost to, against the Jazz, who people like,
and they beat and then they beat in Charlotte, Memphis, Dallas,

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San Antonio, in Chicago. There might be one playoff team
in that mix. Now, it doesn't truly matter because and
I've said this, and I've given Lebron and his team's credit. Look,
it's Lebron and the Lakers coming to town. It's still
even though they didn't make the playoffs last year, they're
still everybody's biggest game. And the and the Bulls reacted

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as such last night. But when you're being guarded by
Otto Porter or Lowry Markinson, you're marketing, you're supposed to
be dominant. Anyways. Anyways, it's a good thing that they
don't need him. But I just I don't understand how
he can't differentiate the fact, you know, how he can't

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point out that they actually were worse when he was
in when he was scoring, and it's not all his fault.
Their defense wasn't good, and the Bulls written shots, and
he does, he is, he is a leader. Look, Dwight
Howard's been really, really good. Dwight Howard has been good.
But Dwight Howard has been good because they don't need him,
that he's an ancillary piece. Anthony Davis has been their

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best player up until the last game or so game
or two, maybe the Dallas game. In this game, the
Bron has been great. He's facilitating sharing the ball. They're
playing Caruso more, they're starting to develop a rotation. They're
clearly cohesive. Like these things are all good, but let's
also point out that their schedule has been extremely soft,

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extremely soft. People think Dallas can make the playoffs. They
took him to overtime San Antonio. Maybe how was a
close game, he didn't shoot well. But for for three
game roads stretch rule in the season against maybe one
playoff team to win all three, that's big because last
year they weren't beating the bad teams. They weren't. Now

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they've gotten Kuzan back, so they're not injured. But this
is not the tough part of their schedule. You know,
it's not. That'll be when you know, early December they
go to Denver, to Utah to Portland home for Minnesota,
to Orlando in Miami, Atlanta, Indiana, Milwaukee. They got the
Denver and the Clippers in Portland. When they get home,

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let's see what they're doing then. But for Lebron, he's
playing well and they're playing well and the bench is
a like, that's the thing he couldn't How many teams
in the past could Lebron James steps off the floor
and they can't make plays. Now they get Kuzman back,
bringing him off the bench, and they're all the better
because of it. Kevin Clark covers the NFL for The
ring Or fallm on Twitter at by Kevin Clark. Also

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check out the video series on the Ringer Slow News
Day featuring Kevin Clark. He joins us on the Doug
Gottlips Show. Um, let's start with A J. Green. You
know he's clearly not happy, although he does say like, look,
they want to play in the franchise Tech. Fine, it's
a bunch of money. Uh. Do do you think this
is A J. Green going like, I ain't playing until

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I get paid. I don't know. I mean, listen, A J.
Green was put on high school field in the first
practice of the season and injured himself, and no players
should be put in that position. If A. J. Green
is upset at the Bengals organization subsition they put him
in twenty nineteen, I wouldn't blame him, but that doesn't
seem to be the m o of A. J. Green

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throughout his career. He's signed an extension there you sort
of know the deal with the Bengals at this point.
Um So, maybe if there is a little bit of
a rebellion, that's that's his right, that's overdue, I think.
Um So, I think that you know, A. J. Green
has been a loyal soldier to Sincenati Bengals, but I
think that at some point he's an elite receiver. He
needs a better franchise. Maybe it's the first step. Cam

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Newton is not gonna play the remainder of the season.
What's the rest of Cam Newton's career look like. I mean,
it all depends on whether or not he is. You
know what. One of the weird things I think, uh,
in the first couple of months of this season this
offseason was he had almost like Andrew Luck style reports.
No one knew anything about the shoulder, No one knew anything.
You know, obviously the foot develops, we didn't know the

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severity of that. At some point, you just get too
injured to be uh, to be good to be what
Cam Newton was. Cam Newton has been hit one thousand,
two hundred times in his career that is way more
than any other player in the NFL okay, And I
think that at some point that catches up with you
only take some one hit to change your career. If
he can get back to his peak, which I think

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is doubtful at this point just because of the damage
he's taken and what we've seen from him this year
and there was Frank aside from the shoulder, But even
get back to his peak, he would be the best
quarterback of Mailble. It's just whether or not he can
do that in time for the free agent class. And
I think that maybe a team might have to take
a flyer on the next year if Carolina moves on.
Actually in Caroline should stand pat twenty million dollars a

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year as a bargain when Jared Goff makes thirty six.
I agree. You know, I talked to some NFL peoven
like you know, the everybody says they're gonna cut him,
like nineteen million and change for Cam Newton is not
a bad deal considering you know what Pat Mahomes is
gonna sign for, Aaron Rodgers signed for. My issue is
outside of Carolina. I don't know how many systems he

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fits in right like, and he really hasn't been healthy.
So if they did decide, hey, we're gonna go to
the young route and we had it, we had enough.
I just well, he's not gonna accept less money, and
I don't know if he accepts an inferior role. And
I'm just wondering how many offenses and offensive coordinators he

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fits with. In addition to the fact that can't stay healthy,
Like it's the foot this year, but it was the
shoulder last year, it was the ankle before that. One
of the things I think he might have to accept
is that there's not going to be a team if
he's released. There's not gonna be a team who's going
to go all in on Cam Newton. I think that
there's just still too many question marks with that. Um.

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I just think that that he might have to take
not a reduced role with sort of a a stop
gap starter job somewhere some that maybe maybe a Tampa,
maybe a Chicago something like that, maybe a Tennessee. We're
making a change, give him a two year deal worth
the pretty good money, that sort of thing. I don't
think he's going to get a long term deal anywhere.
I think the franchise is gonna say, hey, we're pushing

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all our chips in the middle of the table with
Cam Newton. I just don't see that happening because of
all the question marks rounding his health. So I agree
with you the options will be limited, but I still
think he has some value because even if you know
Cam Newton had se of his health, is still better
than than most quarterbacks around this league. Um. You know,
I think that if you can't do the design runs,

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that takes away an element to his game. Um. I
think that he had think two third two thirds of
his design runs between the tackle. Uh was just incredible
when you consider the amount of times he literally just
randed up the gut. I think that element of his
game is going to have to change. But I still
think he can provide value, and I think you can
you know, if he can still run even a little bit,
he can still provide sort of the read option stuff.

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You know, at one point in his career, who was
averaging fifteen yards per read option. I mean, it was
just unbelievable. And so I think that a decently healthy
Cam Newton is still a good option for a team
that's looking for a stop gaps solution. Next Okay, listen,
I'm I'm going to admit that I feel like I'm
I will be painted as a negative guy for pointing

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this out. Like, look, Lamar Jackson played well Saturday, a Sunday,
everything went right, But we're like we're starting to give
him credit for things that didn't actually happen, right, Like
he made some incredible running plays agains Seattle. He threw
the ball exceptionally poorly. They did beat the Steelers on
the road, but the Steelers had you know two Mason
Rudolph got hurt, he threw three picks. He was bad.

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He's not good in that game. And I feel like
we're we're doing this rush to hey, every all these
people were wrong, when like we we gotta we gotta
get thirty games in before we actually see what's right
and what's wrong. Because the questions were about his accuracy
and it's about his ability to stay healthy. The accuracy

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has gotten slightly better and the health is more. The
more times you run it, it's gonna happen. Eventually, it
always happens. It's kind of what we're saying about with
Cam Newton, like he can't do this forever, and he's
smaller than Cam Newton. Am I am? I am I
being too negative in regards to Lamar Jackson. I think
a lot of the excitement Doug is around so the
offense that he's built around him, because at this point,

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Lamar Jackson's it's perfectly in that offense is that there's
just an awesome, dominant offensive line and then speed everywhere
outside of an offensive line, right, and so Lamar Jackson
is the perfect quarterback for the offense that the Ravens
is built. And so I think when you start talking
about wasn't unsustainable and how the outlook for the Ravens
looks really good, I think it's a lot of that.
You know, he's not going to have to be like

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Aaron Rodgers right where his coach failed him, like Mike
McCarthy the last you know, seven years and he was
basically having to make every play. Lamar Jackson is not
gonna have to do that. This is an organizational triumph
for the Ravens to build this quickly around Lamar Jackson
and know exactly what he needs. I agree, like I
think that Lamar Jackson, you know, we've been hyping up
as an m VP candidate as the ringer um, I'm

(24:58):
a part of that. I definitely think it's in the conversation.
But he's definitely a cut below Russell Wilson at this point.
He's definitely probably but in the season, going to be
clearly a cut below Deshaun Watson. But I think right now,
you know, being the first team to to beat Bill
Belichick in that defense, to put up real, real points
on them, I think that it's I think some times
he shout just to rationally buy him to the hype,

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and right now I'm just I'm following. I will follow
Lamar Jackson anywhere. Right now. I am all in on
Lamar Jackson hype because what we've seen through eight games
so far. Okay, I remember him getting booed off the
field against the Chargers. Oh, he was really bad of
that game, and he was really bad. He was bad
against Cleveland this year. I mean, we're all of Cleveland.

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Cleveland beat him, and he was a big reason why.
For sure. For sure. And listen, you know, san Diego
through what seven defensive back to him, and he had
trouble adjusting to that. And I think that one of
the things about the NFL is defenses will start to
game plan for you, and then things start to change.
When Bill Belichick faces Lamar Jackson for a second time,

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does he have knowing what he knows about how Lamar
Jackson will play the Patriots? If you have better schemes
than how does Lamar Jackson adjust to that? There are
some people Chip Kelly is a good example where they
have a couple of good ideas at the NFL level
than people adjust and they have no more good ideas, right,
and so I think that with Lamar Jackson this is
an evolutionary process. He's been really bad in games, but

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I think that his ability to be this good at
this point in his career is encouraging. I agree with you,
he's had his lows, but I think those lows are
getting mitigated a little bit and I think that he
will be a good NFL quarterback for a long time. Uh,
let's get to Baker Mayfield. How fixable is Baker Mayfield
with this coaching staff right now? I don't know, um,

(26:44):
because he's clearly pressed in a way I didn't think
was possible. I mean, I think people are I've seen
so many connections between Baker and Manzel this year and
just stats wise, right, I think that's totally off base
because they or Mayfield was so successful as rookie year
he um, you know, set the rookie touchdown record all

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that stuff. And I think that if there's an offense,
you can thrive in the brownching define it. But right now,
it seems like you've just developed a lot of bad habits.
It seems like, you know, in a lot of cases,
there's just very strange decision making in Cleveland. Um, as
far as you know, Freddy Kitchens taking the false start
and all that stuff. I mean, this is the top
to bottom disaster right now relative to their roster town.

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And I think that Baker Mayfield is fixable because we've
seen what Baker Mayfield is capable on an on an
NFL field. For right now, he looks like a broken quarterback.
And I don't know what you do. I think that
you you panic as much as you possibly can. I think, um,
when you see how good he was last year and
how bad he's been this year, and I think there's
real hope for him to be good starting in but

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they has to be a dramatic overhaul, Okay, so help
me out with this. Kevin Clark from the Ring are
joining us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. One of the
things the Patriots are run into is honestly one of
things that Lamar Jackson's run into. One of the things
that you say about the Niners is, for the first
time in recent memory, we have some horrible NFL teams.
Like we had teams, We had teams that we thought

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that that ended up about mid season or late in
the season started to become bad and then they were
you know, we had the winless Lions team and the
winless Browns team, whatever. But the disparity and good teams
and bad teams. You know, the Niners have played a
decent a couple of decent teams, um, but even the
decent teams have been favorable schedules for them. But they've

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played the bottom of the league the same as true
Cowboys have beaten up in the bottom of the league.
Top of the league they've struggled against. How do we
determine how good the Patriots are considering how many of
their wins came against the bottom of the league. Yeah,
good luck. You know, it almost reminds me a little bit,
Doug of college football, where you just have these schedules.
It's like, well they haven't. You know, they're playing a
bunch of Sunbelt teams or whatever. I mean, it's no

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fault schedule, but this is a schedule season. And what
I mean by that is really a team like the Build,
who I think have a lot of talent and I
think Sean mcdermots a good coach. But if they make
the playoffs with ten wins, a lot of that is
going to be because of the schedule they played. Because
early season they beat the Jets, they beat the Dolphins,
they get the Dolphins twice, they get the Jets twice. Um,

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you know, you get some just teams that they really
haven't field in the NFL team this year. And if
you get a lot of those, that's five six wins
under schedule. And so how do you determine it? I mean, yeah,
you know, if you're too much the Patriots. You know,
the good news is they play some really good teams.
They played it's you know, the Baltimore Ravens, Cancer Chiefs.
They have the Dallas Cowboys in three weeks. I mean,

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those are the type of games you have to circle
again almost like college, and say they're playing this team,
they're really good. That's where I draw my conclusions. I
think you can't learn anything from making Sam donald c ghosts.
That is not an accomplishment in Kevin Clark joining us
in the Doug ot Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio,
watch the Chargers Packers game. Rogers wasn't great, but they

(29:57):
never had the ball like they just I mean, it
was a Dissa master right when they got the ball
three plays in the first quarter. You know, you had
a false start, you had holding penalties, and then the
defense couldn't couldn't get off the field. They did keep
the charges out of the end zone. For the most part,
defense has had some issues of late. How concerning are
they for you when you look long term at the Packers. Listen,

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they still have a lot of roster talent there. I'm
not insanely concerned. I will say they were getting turnovers.
I think they had seven turnovers the first two weeks
of this season, and I think that that was fueling
a lot of the hype and a lot of the
talk around the Packers. And I think that a lot
of their free agent moves were shrewd. But I don't
they just haven't been a dominating defense. I don't think
they've gotten to turn over the last three weeks, UM,

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which I think, excuse me, they didn't get Trevor last
week and they had one turnover the week before. UM.
But I think that there's you know, you just start
to to look at the NFC teams and you look
at the Saints, look at the Niners. You know, I
would say the Vices have made a run these last
couple of weeks. I just don't see the Packers in
that in that Vain with the top the top two

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seeds in the NF team in my opinion, nuts the
Niners going to Saint at this point. I just don't think. Obviously,
they have Aaron Rodgers, and you know he's always going
to make throws that will beat teams, but I just
don't think they have the defense without they did the
first couple of weeks the season. So I'm a little
bit concerned. I still think they're a playoff team. I
still think that they have the capability to make a
nice little playoff front. But I don't see the conversation

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we were having any uh the beginning of the season
where they're a top and few team. I just don't
see that they're a step behind. Yeah, and and you know,
Aaron Rodgers, you talked about the start of the season.
They played against the bad teams and start a season
right like again, and and and the Vikings team that
wasn't what they had become correct, correct, speaking of the
speaking of the Vikings, speaking of the Vikings, like, I

(31:43):
like the Vikings. I think they're good. I felt like
they gave away that game with their their you know,
play calling, and Cousins seemingly lack of confidence. They're late
like that. That that is the Vikings in a nutshell,
good enough to beat anybody, but the really good teams
they just I can't buy in. Yeah, I mean that's
that's been the book quote unquote on Kirk Cousins for

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his entire career. If he doesn't be good teams, I don't.
I think Kirk Cousins is exactly kind of the I
don't even know how he would describe it. He is
in the middle of everything, which means I think he's
totally dependent on his surrounding cast. If the surrounding cast
is clicking, he can be a great, great quarterback and
not an elite quarterback, but he can put up forty points.

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He can and he was the NFC or you know,
the quarterback of the month in October. He's the type
of quarterbacks gonna have great performances, but if everything is
not perfect, things can go south very quickly. So I
think that this is, you know, predicting what the Vikings
will look like in November in December is really hard.
I mean, they have the Cowboys next week, then they
have Broncos, you know, the Seahawks. I mean, it's it's

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a really interesting month for them because I think that
the hallmark of Kirk Cousins careers in lack of consistency,
and in order for them to make the playoffs or
get a buy or win the division, he has to
be more consistent. And I think that that is one
of the most intriguen relined The second after the season
is is what Minnesota is doing. Sustainable is relying on
the running game to help pass sustainable. It is Adam

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Feeling going to be healthy. It's a lot of question
marks in Minnesota. I'm intrigued to see where that goes.
Kevin Clark check him out in the Ringer follow on
Twitter at by Kevin Clark. Of course, do they have
a video series called Slow News Day featuring Kevin. He
does an outstanding job. Kevin, thanks so much for doing
us anytime, so I appreciate you. The Redskins are now
officially the worst team in the NFL. Real news are
fake news? Bight out. Next, be sure to catch the

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live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three
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A lot to get to here on the on the show,
got a great list of guests upcoming. In the meantime,
Let's get to a game. Okay, this is game ties

(33:50):
side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Damn by right, listen
to the end of day. The start of the game
today is real news. Fake news? Alright, real news are
fake news. That Panthers head coach Ron Rivera said even
if the Panthers make the playoffs, Cam Newton won't play

(34:11):
because of his foot injury. Um, that is a fake news.
Rivera said this today. Just quote, just so everyone understands
that question will not be addressed until it's time to address. Okay,
so at the end of the day, he's on I
R Alright, Kyle Allen is our quarterback. End quote. Wait,

(34:35):
I misunderstood there. I thought, um, yeah, I mean, okay,
never mind, I'm I knew he wasn't gonna I knew
he wasn't gonna play regardless. I thought, that's what you said. Well,
what I said was that Ron Rivera ruled him out,
but he didn't rule him out today. He just he's
on I r correct, but he could return for the

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playoffs if they make the playoffs. So let's just say
they make it to the NFC Championship Game. Somebody just
brought up the question today. The point being, Ron Rivera
did not say, no, we're shutting him down for the year.
He said, we'll address it when it's time to be addressed. Okay,

(35:18):
all right, I'll take the loss on that one for
freek I was just I was just confused by That's all.
I'm confused by a lot of things about by that.
Real news are fake news. That last question was confusing,
That was a joke. Real news are fake news. The
Redskins have the worst odds to win the Super Bowl
according to bet Online. That's fake news. They're real spectac

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dropping the thousand to one for the Redskins to bring
home the Vince Lombardi Trophy. What's interesting though, in the
odds that we get from bet online, the Dolphins still
have the best odds to get the number one overall
pick despite winning last week for the first time this season.
Real news are fake news that the a c C
is the only conference in the history of the college

(36:02):
football playoff rankings to have had every school appear in
the top twenty five. Uh of the the fake news
the Spectacus wake Forest was the last holdout to not
be in a ranking of the college football Playoffs. They

(36:24):
debuted at number nineteen this year. They were the final school.
So every a c C school has at least been
ranked once in the top twenty five college Football Playoff rankings. Yes,
so Duke has been there. Syracuse has been ranked. Busting College.
The Boston College is rank that's what That's what the

(36:46):
stats said. When was Boston College ranked? I don't know.
I was just told that since the college fall playoff
can existence. Yeah, with the rankings of the top twenty five,
that wake Forest was the last holdout of a of
A team to not make it. That This is according
to information acquired by Stadium that wake Forest was the

(37:07):
last a CC team to be ranked. So I'm looking
at seven. The last time Boston College is good. No way, well,
I mean two thousand and seventeen they went to the
Pinstriple there were seven and six. Maybe they got into
a ranking that year. Maybe they were I okay, okay,

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I mean yeah, no, no, they start out the year
one in three, No chance I can I there's no way.
All all right, you know what, I'll do some digging
and the next time you and I reconvene, I'll try
to give you the nine. They went to the Emerald
Bowl two times. They went to Music City Bowl in

(37:55):
two thousand and eight. Maybe that's it. Let me see, well,
there was no there was no rankings back then, so
I don't understand anyway. I keep going my bad alright,
real news or fake news that Sharks Wingery vander Kane
is being sued by a casino after he allegedly failed
to pay back a half million dollars worth of credits
during their first round playoff series last year against the

(38:17):
Golden Knights sounds like real news. I think this is
our first ever. It's got to be our first ever
gambling related story with the NHL, Right, wasn't that one
of the big issues always? What guys will be out
partying out gambling. But this apparently happened during the playoff series,
during some off time, and now he's being sued by

(38:38):
the Cosmopolitan for not repaying those credits. Did you say
half a million dollars? Yes? Man, I'm I get bent
when I lose five hundred dollars. This is game time
on the Duck Godly Show. Can you imagine being down
and a half a million dollars? I mean you went

(38:58):
time about being sick? Oh my goodness. Have we finally
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(39:21):
Fox Sports Radio? Mm hmm? You know what what happens
when a season goes bad is we start to try
and figure out whoa whoa? What was it right? What
was it? What? What went so wrong? It's like the Titanic.

(39:43):
We're still years later, it was a hundred years later,
still studying like whoa what was it? It wasn't just
that they hit the iceberg. It was um it was
the construction of the boat. It was a couple of
things that were It was what the captain did to react. Obviously,
the icebergs was a bit of an issue there, which

(40:04):
they thought it would be. The Browns offense is scoring
nineteenth in total offense, turnovers um twenty nine and third
down conversion rate and red zone percentage. All of these
numbers are down from last season, and all of them
are bad. They're not just a bad team in terms
of their record. You can actually be a good team
and be a little unlucky. They're not unlucky. They're bad.

(40:25):
They're not good. Schedule has been pretty difficult, although Denver
and Denver on the road is tougher than you think.
But that's not a good football team. Every stat will
tell you this is Freddie Kitchen, their head coach, when
asked about Baker mayfield fifty percent completion rate this season,
to go into that, I don't think he's just wildly
missing passes, So I don't know. I don't really look

(40:48):
at that. I just want him to get better today,
just like I want to get better this week more
than last week. I truly do not look at stats, man,
I truly don't look at stats. Look, I get the highole,
I'm a field guy, right, everybody was, I just go

(41:09):
by field. I don't need stats. So we're not we're
not even talking about, um what what stats he used? Like,
no one is saying like, hey, Freddie Kitchens isn't using
the new wave of analytics. No one saying that. What
we're saying is like Freddy Kitchens, who And look, Freddy

(41:35):
Kitchens was a quarterback, by the way, I don't know
you guys know that, right, Like he was actually a
quarterback and a pretty good one for the Crimson tie
play for Alabama. But the idea that I don't even
look at stats, excuse me, none of them Now, I
don't actually believe that to be true. But who would
actually say that out loud? I don't look at stats.

(41:57):
I'm a field guy. That's kind of the average football
guy statement, right. And then what they always say, I'm
a feel guy. And I think we've kind of nailed
the problem, because when things are going bad, you should
not just use your eyes and your feel, but any

(42:19):
of the resources which can help you, even if the
resource is simple as, and what's this completion fifty eight
we got? We have to like, how can you get
better if you don't look at stats? I that's an
honest question. That would be my honest How How can Freddie?
How can we know you're better? Well, you know when

(42:40):
their losses? Okay, how do we know he's the offense
is better unless we look at completion percent the third
down percentage, red zone percentage, completion percentage. How do we
know he's not throwing it holding the ball better? And
this idea is not wildly throwing well, he's definitely not
just missing. He looks bad. He's not getting better. He

(43:03):
looks like he's regressing. It doesn't look like he's lacking confidence.
A matter of fact, he might have too much confidence,
which I kind of think has been his fee to complete.
But Freddie Kitchen saying, I'm not a stat guy. I
don't even look at stats. Whether or not you believe
him or not, And I guess I'll go around the

(43:24):
room and ask if you guys believe him. Whether or
not you believe or not doesn't seem to matter. What
matters to me is that he said it, and when
you say it, it just kind of feels like I
cannot believe that was said aloud. Play it for me
one more time, Roma's would you factors to go into that?
I don't think he's just wildly missing passes. So I

(43:47):
don't know. I don't really look at that. I just
want him to get better today, just like I want
to be better this week more than last week. I
truly do not look at stats. I truly do not
look at stats. Yes, Ryan Music, you had a question,
what is he hoping to accomplish through that type of statement? Like,

(44:11):
I'm not sure I understand why that. I think either're
just all tired of questions and they just no answer
is a good answer. So they just they're just doing
the whole you know, they're just doing the whole numbers
or for nerds kind of thing. Or no, I don't
even look at stats. He just got to get better, right,

(44:33):
Like if you don't say anything, that's the only thing
I can think of. What do you think? I honestly
don't know. I can't think of a good reason why
that type of response would make the organization out in
a better place. Like, hey, you know, I understand like

(44:53):
like how we started the statement, Hey, there's a lot
that goes into completion percentage. But I think we can
all recognize that that number is not where we on
it to be. So that's something that we're going to
have to look at. Maybe that's on me and the scheme,
Like there there are so many different ways you could
have approached that question, but to just throw out and
whether whether it's sure or not, Like, maybe he does

(45:14):
look at stats and he's annoyed, but I, like, I
don't even understand how that answer, given the way your
season has played out, will somehow throw water on the
fire and try and put you in a better place.
But I guess maybe this is what you've always said,
which is like this team didn't need a rookie head

(45:34):
coach who's unaware of how these type of comments will
always come back to bite you, and needed some little
bit more of a veteran presence. Yeah, it just it's
it seems so silly to actually say out loud, doesn't
I'm not the only one who could possibly think that, right,
I mean that you like, what are you what are
you even saying? Why would you say I don't look

(45:55):
at stats? That I would pour over all the different
stats everything doesn't mean they have to, you have to
paralysis by analysis. But like, hey, look we're trying to
figure it out. Like I mean, if you ask me
the same question, why is the completely supercentage down? I
think the first part was fair. Look, there's a lot
of different Is the guy run the right route? Is
he under pressure the people at his feet? Is he's

(46:16):
you know, standing tall in the pocket and feeling confident
in the pocket? Like you know, we're going to try
and figure out what throws he makes best and have
more of those throws, and frankly you find that out
through statistical analysis. We're going to try and get him
going to where he's confident and he's because if he's playing,
please playing well, we're playing well. Like I think all

(46:36):
of that is reasonable. I think all that is healthy.
I don't think the I don't look at I honestly
don't look at stats thing is a smart thing to say,
or do I truly do not look at stats. I
truly do not look at stats. We can only take
him at his word. If that's his word, Man, that
just feels self full. Do you think he doesn't look

(46:57):
at the score at the end of the game is
out of stat So I've often said that forget about
that score. No one cares. It's just another stat. Um,
it's just not stat, just another stat. It is a stat, right,
and it's the it's the truest stat. Look, I've done this.

(47:19):
I've said this before by John Woulden, you know John
Wolden would I used to before he passed away, said
that the women's game is more fundamentally sound. Is the
number one fundamental in sports, putting the ball in the basket,
and they put the ball in the basket at a
lesser rate than the men do. Right, So what we
actually say is fundamentals doesn't really what we say is
stats isn't really stats. Yeah, I just think this is

(47:39):
his way of going like, hey, I'm not gonna I'm
a football guy. I I know a lot more about
it than you do, and I can't really explain it
to you guys, because you're just riders and there's a
bunch of factors that go into it. But I truly
do not look at stats stature for guys that don't
know sports. I truly do not look at stats. All right,
And when you're floundering, you should be, and he's floundering

(48:01):
as a head coach, you should be looking for any
possible smart solution anyone, And instead he's sitting there going like, no,
don't need stats stats for nerds. Is this a you
get called into the boss's office type of comment. No,
I don't think. I don't think this one, even this one,
even anyone says boo about it. I really don't, okay,

(48:25):
because I don't think anyone says anything about it. If
I'm Freddie Kitchen's boss, which I would be, John Dorsey,
I guess you just you don't worry about it on
a day to day basis, and you're just like all,
you know, we're all focused on the next game. But
I would be looking at that and I'd like send
and be like, dude, Freddie, Okay, you're making us out

(48:47):
to be like we don't know what we're doing here,
like we're already not having a good year. These type
of comments do not help us in any way, shape
or form. I don't know. I just I don't. I
think I feel like it's a rudderless ship, like right
and I feel I mean, Dorsey is kind of the
same way though, too, Righte Dorsey. Dorsey is kind of
a big brag boaster, you know, he's the one who said,

(49:10):
and Dorsey's gonna catch no blame for this thing, but
he but he's built a flawed team. And he said,
you know, Baker Mayfield is is uh is Brett Farve right?
I remember that was that was their general manager. So
they've all said stupid stuff. It's not a not a
smart organization, is not one that goes like, man, there's
a bunch of sharp guys over there. They're Cleveland. They're Cleveland.

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There's a reason that Dorsey isn't in Kansas City anymore
and instead he's in Cleveland. There's a reason that Freddie
Kitchens wasn't calling plays before and he's the guy who
got and took the job. There's a reason. And frankly,
there was a reason that Baker Mayfield's overcome it, but
that he was a walk on twice over wasn't They
didn't have scholarship offers, but the highest level he didn't.

(49:55):
Now they may have missed, but that there was there
were some reasons there. And I think you're starting to
see some of those playouts. I don't know. I'm not
a stats guy. You can't get rid of load management
in the NBA. I'll tell you why next. Be sure
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(50:18):
Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio ah app.
This is a statement from Mike Bass Kawahi Leonard is
not a healthy player in the league's resting policy as
such as List is managing a knee injury and the
l a Clippers injury report, the league office, in consultation
with the NBA's regular sports medicine, is comfortable with the
team's medical staff de termination at Leonard is not sufficiently

(50:41):
healthy to play in back to back games at this time.
This from Asian Warsnowski. Kawhi Leonard is missing a second
straight back to back game tonight versus the Bucks, which
also happened to be a nationally televised game. He sat
back to back games last week against the Jazz on
National TV. The Clippers have worked closely with the NBA
sharing the required medical information on Leonards. Decisions on sitting

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games are made well in advance as part of leonards
load management schedule. It is possible Leonard will play back
to back games for the Clippers this season, but that
isn't in the plans in the near future. Um Like,
it's an impossible situation to say we're going to stop
this load management. That's like stopping tanking. Explain to me

(51:26):
how you stopped tanking. Explain it to me. How do
you do that with the drafting system? How do you
do that? You can't relegate teams. It's not like in
Europe where if you finished in the bottom two you
get relegated to a lower league. Don't do that, and
every league allows their worst team to draft first. You

(51:47):
don't want the the rich to get richer. So how
do you stop a team from tanking? You can't. And
tanking has in fact worked, um not every time as
it an up in a championship, but plenty of teams
have bottomed out bucks for example, Astros, Sixers, UH Celtics.

(52:09):
Teams have bottomed out in an effort to get better
draft picks, and generally it works. Some of bottomed down
on purpose, some of bottomed out by chance. But that's
why the drafting system is that is, and it doesn't
guarantee that you're going to pick the right guy. Case
in point, the Browns right Browns won one game over
two years, had the number one pick had the number

(52:30):
four pick as well, so there would have been another
quarterback available, could have taken Sea Kwan Barkley if they wanted,
you know, could have traded back, could have taken one
of those incredible offensive linemen that were that that were available,
right like, they could have chose not to. Instead they
went quarterback and they went defensive back, and look where
they are. But tanking works for the most part, gives

(52:53):
you a chance, and there's no way to stop it.
It's not you may ruin the experience for your current fans,
you may hurt the culture of your current program, but
there's no way to stop you from loading up and
getting town. The question is do you pick the right town.
There's no way to stop taking. Can't cut the number
of games. That's not happening. It's not happening because no

(53:14):
matter if Kauai plays or doesn't play, you still are
gonna sell tickets based upon the entire season schedule. And
two people are like I ticked off, Like I'm not
gonna watch tonight, Like okay, the game is still gonna
be played. The sponsors still gonna buy their their sponsorship,
and it's still technically counts And oh, yeah, by the way,

(53:36):
like it's not a bad idea. No one's ever handed
out a championship trophy for whoever wins most games in November.
That's not happened. Doesn't happen, you know, and to anyone's
in and there go, hey, well, Lebron's not load managing,
like dude, he did this his whole career. His last
year in Cleveland, he didn't play every he played every game.

(53:56):
That was the first time. That was the first time.
We're simply a lot like officiating. We're simply paying more
attention to it now than we have in the past.
So and now you know, Gregg Popovis did this, and
a lot like the Astros winning a World Series, getting
to another World Series and people saying, hey, if the
Astros can do it, we should do it. We'll start tanking,

(54:17):
the Sixers getting better, and now NBA teams will start tanking, etcetera, etcetera.
He won an NBA Championship but one of finals m
v P doing the old load management and supposedly left
San Antonio because they made him play through injury that
he didn't feel he was right. So no one's ever
going to make Kauhi Leonard go out and play when
he's said to be healthy if he doesn't want to play,

(54:40):
because that's what caused him to get the hell out
of San Antonio, and the fear is he do the
same thing he can went the Clippers. I just don't
think there's any way to stop it. Yes, right, music
so similar to what you were just saying about the
whole idea that you know, he had this rub with

(55:01):
the Spurs and that sort of led to him leaving
your friend and you know joins the show regularly. Ryan
Rissilo had a threat on this whole load management thing.
He said, some of the smartest front offices think the
science is inconclusive regarding load management. I'm sure many of
you will disagree. That's fine, but the NBA is trying
and they have made the schedule easier in response to
players wanting more time off. The fear for teams is

(55:23):
that if they force players to play, it comes off
as anti player. Teams are making tribute videos that barely
get played to make sure the rest of the players
know that they're operating as a player first organization. The
bigger concern is that if you have a star that
wants more rest, and you challenge him on it, he
can shut it down with an injury and then the
relationship gets worse. So yes, some teams believe the rest
approach works. Others are just giving in to keep in

(55:46):
on the game. Yeah, I look. The same thing is
true with with coaches who have come out and said
we should pay players in college athletics right Like, they
don't really most of them don't really think that. They
just say it because they don't want the backlash, like
the tribute tribute videos for guys is a joke, and
the this is it is kind of superhuman to play

(56:08):
one night in Miami and then play the next night
in in Milwaukee, right, it is. It's a really hard thing.
It's really it should be pointed out that you did
fly first class, you did stay at a forced our hotel.
You have nothing to do the rest of the day.
Most teams don't do shoot arounds or walk throughs anymore,
So sorry, that's what you do, um, But this is

(56:32):
what happens when you've empowered the players to this point.
What were you saying music That was just a hot
mike moments, So don't worry about that is your hot
Mike Okay, did we quell any investigations that were Did
we interviews that we killed? No, we have not. I
can honestly say we have. We have never had an
interview on this show that we have killed. Uh, Doug All,

(56:55):
We're on Fox Sports Radio. There's okay, there's no need
to rush Pat Mahomes back, is there? Like? There are
questions about Pat Mahomes being ready earlier today and Andy Reid,
you know, kind of deflected because it was before practice,
but he has gotten an increased workload. Andy Reid said,

(57:16):
the workload is going to increase. They keep asking when's
he gonna practice. It's day to day. Keep both quarterbacks ready.
But I mean they've survived this long. I told you
what I told you, longer then most people believe it
would be. It was three. I thought it would be six.
Kansas City takes on the Tennessee Titans on Sunday, and

(57:40):
you Reid said, we're not gonna put him out there
unless it's safe. So my guess is that you know
they're not going to They still play the Chargers twice,
plus the Raiders and the Broncos. I mean, it would
take a incredible turnaround from the Chargers to take them
down in that leake, and it doesn't look like that

(58:00):
will happen, right charges you have to go to the Raiders.
We'll see, So one of those teams is gonna happen
and l between now and then. The Chiefs surviving the
Minnesota Vikings really puts them in kind of a prime
position here where they can you know that they can
not rush him back and feel really good about Obviously,

(58:20):
it lost to Green Bay, it beat Denver, it lost
to Houston without him, and uh, and then there's the
the the the you know, the last game he full
game he played in was against Indie. So you go
to Tennessee and then you play in Mexico City, and
I would guess also the league wants him to play
in that Mexico City game, right, you want to put

(58:42):
your best foot forward. So then they have a bye
and then they take on the Raiders at home. I
think he'll play next week. I don't think he'll play
this week, but it wouldn't stunn me if he doesn't
play until until December one, where you go like, look,

(59:02):
he's had complete rest, he's completely back, he's totally ready
to go. We have no fee because they're gonna pay
him forty million dollars a year. There's no reason to
rush him back, none other than our own kind of
healthy egos and desires saying we why don't get him
back on the football field. No reason. I said this

(59:26):
before that they don't want to be the Warriors. They
want to be the team that puts a guy out
there when he might not be ready. How big a
disaster would that be? Be awful, terrible, be the worst
thing ever. You know, it would be the worst thing ever. Plus,

(59:48):
we just saw the Patriots arms because as we thought,
they already beat the Ravens. They don't think the Ravens
are very good. They had the Ravens dead to rights beat,
kind of went to cruise control. Lamar Jackson threw a
couple of balls up whatever they want in the game.
It wasn't really that competitive football game. They don't think
the Ravens can beat them, especially in their joint. They're
not They're gonna play the Patriots later in the year,

(01:00:08):
and I don't think they're super impressed with the Patriots.
They got, so who's gonna beat him? I get Indie
came in and smacked them. But we don't know if
any even makes the playoffs, all right, I mean I
think they want a home field advantage, but they've they've
lost three games at home this year, and go back
and look every season on repeat, they actually lose at

(01:00:32):
home in spite of the fact that they have an
incredible fan base and what we think is an incredible
home field advantage. What's more important is they have pat
mahomes in the playoffs. Then where they play it and
where they play they play in New England, they play
in Baltimore, doesn't mean they have pat mahomes. They feel
like they got a chance to beat anybody on any planet.

(01:00:54):
So I just I don't understand this, this push, this fervent.
Do we want to see him? Yeah? Is the awesome? Sure?
Could he be the league m v P again? He could?
Then the numbers bear out that he was having a
league MVP caliber season even the defense was struggling to
get him on the football field. But but I don't

(01:01:17):
see any sort of reason why if you're not, like
Gay Reid said, if you're not a d percent sure,
then you are sure, you're sure you shouldn't be playing. Um,
the load management thing is interesting. Let's go. I want
to kind of go back to that. Orlando Brown said
to join us at some point in time for the
Baltimore Ravens while ask him about their big win over

(01:01:39):
the uh the New England Patriots. You know, people are
freaking out because on back to back nights, Kauai is
not playing, Like, I don't know, I kind of think
that makes a ton of a hell of a lot
of sense. And by the way, for the Clippers, they agree,
this was part of the deal. This is part of
the agreement. It's it's a rider clause. Do you guys

(01:02:01):
know what a writer clauses. A rider clause goes into
a contract, and a lot of musicians are famous for
the writer clause, like, hey, look what, I only want
green M and m's in my green room, and I
only want aquafina water, and I only want this and
I only want that, and you know, we I feel
like that's what that is. And people are comparing the

(01:02:21):
NBA to the NFL. You can't sixteen games supposed to
eight t two, sixteen games supposed eight two. The team
of the best record at home field home court advantage
doesn't doesn't even get to the NBA Championship, let alone
win it. Let's dive back in with the National Football League.
Son of Zeus, Orlando Brown joins us in the Doug

(01:02:44):
ot Lip Show on Fox Sports Radio Sunday. Looked like
fun for you guys, was it? Yeah? Man, it was
a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun
out of bless Yeah. Those are the type of games
where if you're gonna script how you guys win it,
that's the way right. Jump on them early, and they
seemed they seemed to really struggle with you with your style.

(01:03:06):
How much of that could you tell? That they seemed
to struggle with what you guys were doing and that
allowed you guys to dominate them off the after the
opening kickoff? Yeah, man, first things first, I mean, whenever
you get ahead, you know, and you're a head of
a team and you're gonna run the ball, that's offensive
linement's dream. And uh, you know, I take pride in
those type of games and those type of situations. I've
been fortunate since I've been here to have a lot

(01:03:26):
of games like that. But um, you know, man, as
far as their game plan, uh, you know, I just uh,
I think they're a really really good team, and you know,
they're ranked really high on defense for a reason. Uh,
you know, obviously we were able to go out there
and do some things. Man, But I just test that
to you know, a great week of preparation as far
as with the coaches and uh, you know, Lamar being
able to make plays and other guys stepping up. What

(01:03:49):
what what was Lamar like on Sunday? Man? He was excited.
You know, he's excited, you know, and he understood it
was a big game on prime time and uh, you know, man,
regardless whenever we take the field, you know, as a team,
as offense, his offensive lineman, you know, I can feel
his competitiveness and and how much he wants to win. Yeah. Um,
having Hollywood out, How having Hollywood back helps? I mean

(01:04:09):
his speed? What what? What the the speed that you
guys have, Like you have the fastest quarterback, you have
the fastest or second fastest wide receiver. How mark Ingram
had an incredible run where he showed his speed. Uh
for for a big old dude like you, what is
it like to have all this speed all over the
football field? Yeah? No, man, I mean is great. You
know we got a ton of playmakers like you already said, Uh,

(01:04:31):
you know, we got you know athletes and guys like
Marshall Yonder Man who you know, his speed kind of
goes unnoticed, but you know he's very athletic for everything
that he doesn't does for us in this offense. And
guys like Ronnie Uh, you know man his his athleticism.
You know, I think you know speaks and and Man's
roos and Hayden and Nick Boyle. You know man, it's
I mean, we like we got a lot of playmakers

(01:04:52):
and you know, guys are making plays, stepping up. I'm
just glad I'm part of it. Yeah, it was really
really fun to watch and had to watch the Patriots
kind of struggle, although they did look that they got
back into it. Um the last drive, the one that
ends up kind of sealing the deal, where you guys
just kind of marched down the football field that that

(01:05:14):
has to It's not that you're not a confidence bunch,
but you guys were challenged. The defense helped you out
with some turnovers. But that last tribe seemed to solidify,
whereas I don't know early in the game that felt
like surprising them with a different style late in the
game proved your dominance. Is that is that a fair
way of looking at it. Yeah, I think we just
take a lot of private in on our four minute

(01:05:34):
offense and making sure we don't put our defense back
on the field. You know, Gero does a great job
of calling plays and those situations. Guys are doing a
really good job staying in bounds and making sure the
clock continues to run. Uh, you know, and we're converting
on third and long when we are in no situations man.
So uh, you know, drives like that, I think are
are very important to you know, the confidence in our
team and our coaches. Yeah, keeping the other team off

(01:05:56):
the field. You mentioned staying in bounds, that's a that's
a huge thing. Are you guys yelling or the sideline
yelling for guys to stay in bounds. Yeah. I think
it's just something that we were aware of and in
certain situations and circumstances. Man. Uh. You know, guys like
we got a bunch of veteran guys carrying the rock too.
I feel like and even the young guys, you know,
I just think they're very aware of, you know, the

(01:06:17):
situation and where the sideline is and what's at stake. Um.
I don't know if you heard this, but like Aaron
Rodgers kind of went off on his guys for he
didn't name any names, but he's basically said, like, hey,
we got out to l A in the last forty
eight hours. We weren't ready. You guys go out to
l A in a couple of weeks. Has it been
discussed in terms of doing the right things whence once

(01:06:37):
you get to Los Angeles? It hasn't. Man, you know,
right now we're worried about Cincinnati. You know. I know
that when we went to Seattle, Uh, you know, we
were a focused, focused group and it will be very
similar when we go to go to l A. UM.
You know, Man, I just think I'm very fortunate to
play on a team with a bunch of great leaders. Uh,
you know, a bunch of great men that are focused,
and you know, the concern is more so winning, you know,

(01:07:00):
and then it is anything else that. It's interesting because
I don't think every team has that, right. There are
teams that teams there's one team I want to mention
names in your division where it feels like the focus
is getting the football and getting the and looking good
doing it. Um, how unique you've been the league. While
your dad obviously was a legend in the league. But

(01:07:20):
how unique is it to the Ravens that is this
a yearly thing where you guys are always or do
you feel like this team is special in terms of
their amount of focus on winning. I think it's special, man.
You know, I think it's very rare. You know that
you get a group like this, and you know, I
think that it's just a testament to the culture here
that you know, the Costa and close Hardball have said,
you know, with with the guys that they've drafted and

(01:07:41):
brought in as far as free agents and the veterans
that they kept, it's a college like atmosphere here. Man.
You know, everyone hangs out with each other. You know,
we're very close to each other. We all relate in
some way, and um, I think at the end of
the end of the day, and you know, like I said,
a testament to Harves and the custom man, they just
you know, you got it. There's a team full of
underdog you know, You've got a lot of guys have

(01:08:01):
been counted out in some way, a lot of guys
that you know aren't even supposed to be here in
this situation. And you know, I think we just all
kind of feed off of each other. And when your
quarterback is Lamar and you know, everything that he's been
through and everything everyone says about him, I just think
it's not only natural that the competitive you know, edge
and chip on our should it just kind of comes
from all of that. It is interesting though, that like

(01:08:22):
that that I like, I look at it and people
act like Lamar was was defamed when like he won
the Heisman Trophy, you know, and he was whether or
not everybody bought into him or even buysing him now
is a long term great quarterback, like he was a
first round draft pick. And yet it's kind of genius
that that that he's been able and he's never kind

(01:08:43):
of he's never lashed out about it, but everyone around
him is like, oh, like he's got to prove everyone
has to prove themselves. But it's interesting that there is
the perspective that somehow Lamar Jackson was underrated when one
the Heisman Trophy, was the first round pick in the
Nasal Football League. Yeah. No, man, I mean it's just unfortunately,
you know, and uh, I just think it's it's the

(01:09:04):
way that he's played, you know, and in college obviously
he had the statistics that were you know, outrageous as
far as three hundred three hundred yards passing the game
and a hundred twenty on the ground. You know, it's
a little bit different now in the NFL, but uh,
you know, man, when you putting in perspective that this
guy's accounting for, you know, two hundred and seventy five
total yards and three touchdowns a week, you know, Man,

(01:09:24):
I mean I think it's really really important and really
big and uh you know, man, like it's unfortunate that
people have counted him out. You know, he's somebody that
you know, on every level, he's been a winner, you know,
and and found ways to win. Um. Yeah, I mean,
look what happened to Louisville since he left. I mean
that's pretty you know. And I mean that's it's like
Lebron when he when he left Cleveland type type type deal.
You mentioned how close you are of the offensive lineman.

(01:09:47):
Who's your guy? Who's the guy? Like, man, they're inseparable?
Oh man, Um, that's tough. I mean, and I think
we're all a really really close group. Who what's what's
the most annoying habit any of your offensive lineman teammates
have come on, man, everybody's got an annoying habit. Like

(01:10:10):
you know, you don't have to name. You don't have
to name what Marshall Ganda does or what or what
Ronnie does. But you can tell me what the habit is,
and then I can try about what about what He's
a domer? He's he's he's a domer. He's like, man,

(01:10:31):
why does everybody hate notre dame? Um um? Come on, man,
you can't give me one annoying habit the offensive Lineman team.
You guys are in a room a bunch of big
old dudes, you know, chewing seeds and god knows what else.
Somebody's got an annoying and annoying habit. Nothing too bad, man,
besides Ronnie being a cry baby, I don't really have

(01:10:52):
much else for you, Ronnie, Ronnie, and we're tweeting us out.
Ronnie Stanley is a cry baby. Per z zous junr
so some some sometimes the cry bate. Make sure we
get that contest. Hey, congrats on the wind say travels
to Cincinnati. We'll talk to you real soon. Orlando Brown
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This time we play for your previous show Fox Sports
One or Fox Sports Radio. We call it now Say.
This was from the Rich Eisen Show discussing the Bears
and their quarterback issues. I spoke to somebody recently who
I don't want to miss say the name because they
haven't given me the go ahead to do that. What

(01:11:58):
is going on with the Bears offensively? And I trust
this person immensely in terms of knowledge and excellence and history,
and this person has a ring as well. And the
answer that came back was that the coach used all
of these gimmicks last year and the rest of the

(01:12:19):
league has sniffed it out, and Troubisky does not know
how to do the basics because it was so gimmicky
last year and that the offense this year has been
smoked out totally Defrackt and the kid when it comes
to going through reads and progressions like regular based football

(01:12:39):
can't do it, isn't ready to do it, is an
up fort doing it in terms of successfully not want to,
and that the Bears need to just be far more simplistic,
pull it back, go basic and start from scratch. Mhm um, listen.

(01:13:01):
It's interesting what rich is saying is accurate in that
there were the way that offense works is it was
slight of hand. We'll take you over here, we'll take
you there, a bunch of formations, but they're running pretty
basic stuff. The other thing that was told to me
by a couple of defensive coordinators was, look, he makes

(01:13:22):
the right pre snapp read, but once the ball is snapped,
if he does if if that pre snap read isn't right,
he can't go through progressions he doesn't make the post
nap read correctly. And we've kind of talked about this
before where that second year as a starter is the
real when the real exposure comes, Like that's what's coming
for Lamar Jackson. I I think he's a little bit better,

(01:13:45):
But I don't think he's more accurate than Trabinsky is
some simmer. He's got a little bit better harm He's
obviously very athletic, social bisky, not Lamar Jackson athletic. But
I just I don't think people understand second time through
a rotation. Second time through the lineup in baseball is
like the second time through or you know, third time
through the line up, brilliant baseball. I mean it's happen

(01:14:09):
Baker Mayfield. People start to look, Oh, okay, I know
what this guy can't do. Make him do what he
can't do. Oh he likes ros Ryan's making rolls left.
It's really hard. Once they got a book on you.
This is no different than baseball with the shift right.
We get enough data says you always pull the ball.

(01:14:29):
We're just gonna put another guy in outside of the infield. Now,
let's see what you do. You know, the best of
the best can figure it out. But that just shows
how good guys are. Like that just shows that how
great the best, Like everybody's got a book on Aaron
Rodgers and a book on Tom Brady, in a book
on you know, everybody knows Tom Brady gotta get to

(01:14:52):
his feet, Russell Wilson, these guys still find a way
to get it done. So I actually think what Richard
saying is totally true. It's basically what I've been told.
It's kind of what was exposed last year. Um. I
think the Bears thought that he would evolve more and
he hasn't. He's lost his confidence. They've lost confidence in him,
and they have themselves a quarterback problem. But I don't

(01:15:13):
think there can be any change made because now we're
past the point of the trade deadline and you're not
bringing anybody off the street that knows that system that's
gonna so roll with him and get him back to
where he doesn't have what he likes. Just run it,
use his athleticism, and if he gets him beat up
a little bit, all right. But I do I think

(01:15:37):
what what Riches saying, what he is relaying is what
other people say. Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio.
All right, Uh, we got a great third hour for you,
really really good. Chris berus aarg is gonna join us.
We'll talk about load management. This is the old school.

(01:15:58):
I used to work harder and play harder. And again
I get it, But I don't know why we're acting.
We're doing this thing. We're like acting like we're surprised.
You know. It's like the movie The Joker, which I
have not seen and I do want to see, but
like we're acting like it were surprised. It's super super dark,

(01:16:18):
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We treat you like you treat you a ton of
things to get to. Chris Bruce Sard will join us.
We'll talk some load management. Like I don't know what
people thought was gonna happen here, right, It's like, not
a surprise ending to me, that's not really the ending.
It's very much the start. We'll get to that. Our
thoughts on Kauai letter not playing knee and the league
coming out going No, it's okay. He's got a boo boo,

(01:17:27):
he's got an alley. He doesn't have to play back
to back nights. The weirdest thing ever, he's not faking it.
They got a doctor's note. I got a doctor's note.
Don't have to run the mile at p Can I
tell you guys a funny story? I see Ramostan his said, yes, so, uh,

(01:17:48):
I have twin daughters at thirteen years old. They go
to different schools. I don't need to get in the
stories as to why they go to different schools. And
um Harper is a very good student. She's a straight
a student. And she's got a little me and her
in that sheet. I was like, how's school going? Great?

(01:18:09):
Ran the mile today? Would you run it in? And
she's like, I don't know. Like nine fifty was like
what we were you stopping for a nap? Right? Like?
She's fairly athletic, she's in good, pretty good shape. She
does have asthma, like we show a little effort. She's like, Dad,

(01:18:32):
I run it with my friends and I'm getting into
a so what does it matter? Right, Like tell me
if I need to beat ten, she would get nine.
Nail at that's that's kind of genius. And I who
who liked running the mile? Now they don't run around
the track there. There's like a course on campus. She
claims it's a lot longer. Who knows. So her twin

(01:18:52):
sister Grace, it's a little jealousy, little envy there. She's
She's like, Dad, ran a seven it mile? Really, well,
that's great, it's amazing, congratulations. Just try Like all I
want is effort, like do the best you can. Maybe
next time, trying to get sixty eight. So then like

(01:19:13):
a week ago, she's like, Dad, six fifty in the mile. Wow,
maybe we need to buy you some running shoes. But
you want to cross country? Now, I'm good, just did
a six. So I we run a basketball deal twice
a week and it's actually we do her use her school.

(01:19:34):
They got a really nice jim And I'm walking in
and I cup teacher and I and she I said,
how's Grace doing great? She said, trade, She's so much
fun to have in class. I said, boy, she told
me about those mile times. She's like, what mile times?
I always she told me she ran like a seven
minute mile and he's been like six fifty. Yeah. She's like,

(01:19:55):
Mr Gildip, I don't want to tell you this. We
haven't run the mile this year. I was like, what, No,
we haven't run the mile this year. We've talked about it.
We're doing relay races to get them ready for the mile.
We've talked him about the times that we think that
they could make. We haven't run the mile. Ramos. In

(01:20:15):
this situation, do I call my daughter on the lie
and say what? Yes? What do I say? I would
just say, hey, I understand that you guys haven't been
running anything. I don't know what's going on today, Like
I set it up again today where I said, I
mean I love the initiative like lovity, and she just

(01:20:37):
dropped like yeah, segmint mohamma problem really yeah? Yeah? By
by what what are you to say? You should start
the Gottlieb Games and make her run the first events,
which is the mile, and see what her actual time is.
Get the family around saying hey, it's a family event.
We're gonna do a bunch of different stuff stuff, Grace,
why don't you do the miles you run the Segmentum, yes, yes, yeah, yeah,

(01:21:02):
you go first, start us off. Here's a torch by
the way. That's amazing. That's not a bad idea. Um
that that's not a bad idea, not bad at all,
really when you kind of get right down to it.
So I got a collar on it. I gotta say
something about it. I don't know. I feel like it's

(01:21:24):
just good to having them back in my pocket. Right,
So yeah, I I oh parenthood so interesting, always interesting.
Dougla show on Fox Sports Radio. Bye. What do you
think of the college football playoff pole? I was very surprised,

(01:21:46):
I I you know, we talked a little yesterday about
what they were going to do, But I'm not I'm
not surprised by who was where. I just assumed that
they would put L s U. I think it was
a I think it was a good pole, but I
was surprised by it. May be surprised that they got
it correct. Yeah, that's actually what I think. Now. We

(01:22:07):
couldn't we could could we go back and forth about
Penn State, whether or not they belong ahead of Alabama?
Ahead of Alabama. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you can make
a definite argument for that, right, Like, I don't know
if they definitely do, But I also think I don't
know that they definitely Like I think there's a legit
discussion to be had there. You look at their schedule

(01:22:30):
and Idaho, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Maryland, per Due, Iowa, the Michigan game,
I guess I actually think I think Michigan is a
signature win that Clemson doesn't have. But they got off
to a twenty one nothing lead and very much you know,
held on for dear Ronnie Bell drops that ball in

(01:22:51):
the end zone. Otherwise they're going over time. So I
I actually could make an argument for Penn State maybe
moving up, but also moving down low Clemson. The point
is that we hear them, we hear what they're saying.
They're saying, Hey, strength, the schedule does kind of matter.
I I the one thing I was surprised about was
that Oklahoma was ahead of Baylor for the simple fact

(01:23:12):
of why. I mean, Oklahoma smashed teams and Baylor I mean, like, look,
Baylor shild lost to Texas Tech, but they didn't and
and just the point of being of you've got an
unbeaten Baylor team who didn't plead anybody Oklahoma has played,
who Texas Surgeant U c l A team like that was,

(01:23:34):
and that they have them three spots. I was, I
was just surprised. I mean, I mean, look, Baylor didn't
think and infarrens Baylor, they didn't think they were going
to be eight no, correct, and they've never scheduled up.
But there's a different coaching staff. But like look Stephen f. Austin,
Ut san Antonio and Rice there. I mean that that

(01:23:54):
is not you're You're not getting into it. I don't
think even if honestly they have to beat Alhoma twice
in order to get in, and I don't even know
if they're getting in if they beat Oklahoma twice. Correct.
But what I would say when you look at Oklahoma's schedule,
Baylor is being penalized for what you just mentioned as
who was on their nonconference schedule, maybe not necessarily how

(01:24:15):
everything played out. I mean, Baylor destroyed k State, oh
you know, I mean, and they haven't played you know,
their their main guys. Baylor wins at Oklahoma State. So
I was just surprised to see the gap. But but
to your point about what we have at the top. Yeah,
I think they got it right. Yeah, and not only

(01:24:36):
got it right, but I I'm and it's funny because
maybe I'm I become this. This is where my contrarian
in me uh starts to start to pop out. Is
that I kind of feel like I like this system,
Like I like the idea of four. I like the
exclusivity of it. Um. I don't mind that those teams

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do I think there's always a bowl game or two do.
I think six could be good? Sure, but I feel
like we're not going to six. We'd go to eight.
Every other system in the playoffs is there's too many
teams in. There's not a single there's not a single
sport where you had the playoffs where people go like,
you know, we should cut some of these teams. They

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every decision is to add football. They're talking about adding
a wild card game, and I think that NFL football,
you could see like there's a you know, good team
gets left out. But expanding the college football playoff, which
is a reasonable discussion to have. I don't mind the

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exclusivity of it. I don't I don't mind that we're
arguing who's the best team, who's the most deserving. I
remember a lot of this is gonna play out. You're
gonna have two of those teams have one loss within
the next couple of weeks, and that's when it really
gets interesting. And what this committee has said, at least
has the now is hey, we've been paying attention. Who

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who you played in the nonconference? Now the hard part
in painting yourself in that corner is how do you
how do you value the conference schedule because all conference
schedules are not created alike. I'll give you an example,
um Ohio State, for you know, Ohio State, Let's say

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they lose to a Penn State. I don't think they will,
but let's say they lose to a Penn State out
of conference. They played Cincinnati was very good in conference.
You know, at Nebraska was supposed to be a hell
of a game. Northwestern one the other side. Again, they
can't control this. They play wisconsinant like, their schedule is
way more difficult than most. They have Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Northwestern,

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Michigan State in Nebraska as well as at Indiana. No,
I don't think anybody thought would be this good. Who
they just destroyed and Cincinnati, Like, those are all good teams.
Nebraska has been a wild disappointment, and obviously Adrian Martinez
getting hurt derailed them some, but they have been very good. Um,

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Northwestern has been a disappointment. But how do you account
for somebody's conference schedule, not just who they played the nonconference?
That that's been the big argument for a lot of
people is like, hey, look, I get that it looks
like we don't play anybody in the nonconference, but in
the SEC East, I mean we gotta play everybody. I
just I look at it that we want exclusivity. That's

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a big in business, in sports. We want the best
of the best of the best, and four four teams
is kind of really the barrier of who are the
who are the elite ones? Do? We have arguments, absolutely,
and they will remain, especially for those third and four teams.

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Last year is pretty clear we maybe didn't, although how
George holds on beats Alabama gets really interesting. I guess
Clemson looked like the best. They were the best team.
It's a little harder as of now because the a
c C is so down and Clemson was not sharp
to start the year. Penn State has has been surprising,
Alabama has been good but hasn't played a tough schedule,

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and two have got hurt. L s U has been great,
but we don't trust l s U. But they're telling
you that L s U and frankly Ohio State because
of who they played the nonconference if they lose the game,
those are the first two in line as one lost teams.
And there's just no perfect system like this. What is

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the perfect system? Oh, let's let's go to six teams
where all the top five conference champions get in. Do
they all deserve to be in? You know? Look, look
what if it's Oklahoma and Oklahoma loses one more game
like they beat Baylor, they los Oklahoma State, they win

(01:28:51):
the Big twelve times, then they deserve played for national championship.
Like that doesn't make sense a two loss packed twelve team,
did that they win the chance they win the championship?
Did they belore they deserve to be in just because
they won their league? What if their league is crummy
or what if their conference schedule was easy and then
they played in the championship game? And sometimes you don't.

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I mean last year's Ohio State team to play against
Northwestern in the conference championship. Northwestern wasn't the second best team,
not they weren't the fifth best team then win a
nonconference game. So there is we want to emphasize strength
the schedule bet out of conference games. The committee so
far has done that. We see the complaints about the
NBA playoffs, the NFL playoffs, even the n c A

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Tournament being overexpanded. College football, you can't say that about it.
It's an exclusive group. They're telling you what they think.
Now sometimes they change their mind, as they did with
TCU years ago in that first year. They're telling you
what you think before they think it. And I actually
think it accomplishes the goal it sets out to accomplish.
It sets the table for some of these games and

(01:29:57):
what some teams are up against because of the schedule
they did or did not play all Right, come up next.
Are we impressed with Lebron James so far this season?
Is he the best player in the league? And what
does the league think about load management because they're defending
Kauai's ability to sit Tonight, that's next. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays

(01:30:18):
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Christopher Sarge's gonna
join us in five minutes, Doug Otlip Show, You're on
Fox Sports Radio. M hm m m m m M.
Lebron last night thirty points, ten rebounds, eleven assist, third
trouble double in a row currently in the NBA, and
assists per game. But the big thing that I don't

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know if enough people, it's regular season basketball. Fourth quarter
games always hied. They were down sixteen, they come storming back,
and it was the bench. It was the bench. Kuzma,
who didn't shoot well early in the game, had eleven
points in the fourth quarter. They outscored the Bulls thirty

(01:31:02):
in the fourth quarter. Alex Caruso continues to give them
a lift. He made shots really not really late. But
athletically he's good. He can defend, he can get to
the rim, he can create shots. But the big difference
is that they don't. They're not solely reliant on Lebron

(01:31:23):
or even the starters. Forty points a game from the bench,
and that's without Kuzma fully being healthy. Last year points
a game off the bench for their entire team. Lakers
without Lebron last year minus four point three point differential,
um this year a plus two point differential. So Lebron's good,

(01:31:49):
and he's been good, and he's playing for the most part,
good ball. The triple doubles a little deceiving because he
didn't shoot the ball well against San Antonio. Um. There's
some games rule in the year where he struggled a
kind of get it going. The Charlotte game, he was
bad in the first half and he was better than
the second half. And the stats look good, but he
wasn't great. But this is understandable when you're in mid thirties.

(01:32:10):
The difference of the Lakers is not only just Anthony Davis,
but the bench is UM so much better, UM, so
much better. The two shows after our show, Standing Straight
out of Vegas follows our show. It's for an hour,
gets ready for the lines to night. And then there's
The Odd Couple, which is really fun show to listen to.
Two guys have known each other forever and they they

(01:32:33):
have varying opinions on all the day's uh sports stories.
It's crazy Uncle Rob Parker and Chris brus Hard and
Chris Brussard joins us on the Doug Gottlie Show on
Fox Sports Radio. UM Like, look, I get it, Lebron
the triple doubles, and we get fascinated by triple doubles.
But I feel like the difference in the Lakers is

(01:32:54):
Anthony Davis is really really good more than anything. The
bench right the bench is scoring twenty more points a
game they years and last year, and that's without Kuzma
being healthy most of the year. I feel like this
is a better team on the bench than they were
last year. Am I crazy to not be going gaga
over Lebron? No, I think that's a great point. And
I look, he is playing very well. He looks like

(01:33:17):
he's playing better than he did for the most part
last year, and particularly he's more focused and engaged defensively.
I'm not saying he's playing vintage Lebron James defense because
he's guard him pretty much the one of the worst
players on the ups and teams, but he is more
locked in, so I'll give him that. Uh. And and again,
he's playing great ball. But I agree with you. If

(01:33:39):
I'm a Lakers fan. The thing that excited me the
most about yesterday's game, I get it, it was the
Bulls but still the bench, the way the bench brought
them back and scored sixteen straight points in the fourth
quarter to take the lead and get the Lakers the victory.
They look the way I see it. You may disagree.
If the if, if everybody stays healthy, I see only

(01:34:04):
one team in the West that could beat the Lakers
in the playoff series, and that would be the Clippers.
And the Clippers have a tremendous bench that's only gonna
get better when Paul George comes back. So the Lakers
bench playing well, they're gonna have to match that. And
so if they can play well get their chemistry together
to earn the trust of Lebron in a d I

(01:34:26):
think that's huge for the Lakers. So I do agree
with you. The depth is h is a really strong
suit for the Lakers this year. Christopherus sorry joining us
in the Doug got Leaves show. Um, okay. So this
load management thing with Kauai, I guess might take is
I don't understand why people are surprised he played sixty
sixty games last year, kind of limped his way to

(01:34:48):
the finish, but did accomplish the goal. And what happens
is if it's successful one, people like, well, we gotta
do that again, didn't shouldn't we have seen this coming? Yeah,
I mean they're a pete. Look, I don't know this
for a act, but there are people that will tell
you that, you know, he let the Clippers know I'm
playing sixty five games and that they have this. They

(01:35:08):
have it scheduled out throughout the year. It's probably mostly
to back to back and he'll sit out. Um. So
I don't know that people are surprised, but they are
disappointed and downright upset. I don't like it at all,
um because obviously it's not good for the fans. Um.
And I'm looking at it like like I had Kauai,

(01:35:30):
even even though he was deserving of a much higher ranking.
I had him on the third team All NBA last
year because he missed twenty two games just to sit out.
And I don't even give him last year, more so
because he was coming off the previous season where he's
been injured the whole year. But this year, I mean,
he's gonna take himself out of the m v P race.

(01:35:54):
He's gonna take it and that maybe none of this
matters to him, but his his regular season honors are
going to be lessoned because of what he's doing, because
what if he missed his fifteen game and his team
goes six and nine in those games, that hurts your seeding,
That could hurt your ability to get to the finals

(01:36:14):
depended on the matchup. And so it's just and the
principle of it, Doug, I haven't heard your take, but
I don't. I don't like it because if you know
you're only gonna play sixty five games healthier not, then
maybe your contract should be pro rating because it's just
it's not what you're supposed to do. If you're healthy,

(01:36:36):
go play. I'm with you in spirit, right like, I
think it's I think it's weak. Yeah, like the idea
that it's not even comparable to the players of the
past because the travel and everything and the schedule is
so much easier than it used to be, right Like,
we're not let's not even compare it to Jordan's because

(01:36:56):
they weren't flying, although they had private chants, they weren't
staying at had the type of trainers they had previously,
and early in his career they didn't have private because
maybe the first you know, five or six years of
his career and they didn't that they were flying shot
you know, regular plays. Yeah, but but the league has
painted themselves in this corner. Man. I mean, even this

(01:37:17):
crap today with the NBA coming out and and basically
giving him a doctor's note. Oh yeah, his knee is
really hurt. He's gotta sit. Like what are you doing?
You're giving the doctor's note? And and at some point
you are going to turn not just off your fans,
because the fans matter, they do, and there are people
that that I mean because Kauai is Kauai. Now, the

(01:37:40):
people that are going to show up to a Bucks game,
I want to see the two best, two of the
best players in the NBA, and they won't see it. Um.
But they're also going to turn off the people, the
the ESPNS and the t n t s that pay
all that money to carry their rights, like, well, you're
missed two TV games in a row, right, Well, That's
what I said today on On Heard with Colin is

(01:38:01):
that look, ESPN, we know they're upset, and they and
rightfully so their next deal with or whoever makes the
deal with the NBA, that TV deal, they're gonna take
this into consideration and it may end up being a
lot less money, and that eventually is gonna think to
the players because that's how you get the salary cap.

(01:38:21):
The TV money is a large part of that, So
it will hurt the players in the pocket book. I
think the Players Association should get involved and be like, look,
we can't have this because right now it is Kauai
and Doug. I don't mind at the end of the
season when you got a week or two left and
you know you're seeding or you know you're in the playoffs,

(01:38:42):
resting guys for the postseason, but this is ridiculous. Three
weeks in, you've already missed two out of eight games.
You're fine, You're a hundred percent healthy. And what if
other players start doing it. I mean, thankfully, you know,
Lebron and these guys haven't really go full board with this,

(01:39:02):
but um I if a lot of guys start doing this,
it really will begin to hurt the league, and they
need to nip it in the butt. The NBA is
in a tough spot because, just like the Clippers did today,
we know he's not hurt. Uh. They can always make
up an injury, back spasms, respirat upper respiratory infection. You know,

(01:39:23):
stuff like that. So it's hard to police. But I
do think the league, you know, remember last year with
Adam Silver, came out and said they they're looking at
shortening the season. If guys want a D two game
money but they only want to play sixty five games,
then cut the season the sixty games and you know,

(01:39:45):
take the monetary hit. If it's that important to you
to sit out games. I don't actually, I don't think
it's possible. You can't tell those arenas that have forty
one dates cut out for you and all the vendors
that they have, like everybody loses. And obviously the TV
is You and I both know it's about the volume

(01:40:05):
of the transaction. Like you just you can't do it.
You need those dates, You need those dates in the arenas,
you need those dates for TV games. Yeah. I mean
it may be too complicated to do, but something it's not.
It's not complicated. It's just too much money, too much money. Yeah,
but you could eventually raise the ticket prices because each

(01:40:28):
game would be more intense and important, to be more
of a sense of urgency. Wouldn't it wouldn't it wouldn't
make it wouldn't make it up It wouldn't make it up.
There's well, they can't keep this. I mean, this can't continue,
I know, and it's really just the beginning of it.
I mean, we look back at the Spurs, Doug and
and obviously Grant Pablovich was one of the first to

(01:40:49):
get this going, but it was nothing like this. Uh.
Tim Duncan played seventies seven games his seconds to last
year early in his career. The first half of his career,
he was playing eighty games most years, and so what
they now. Papovich kept his players to a round thirty
three minutes, which was wise and if they did that,

(01:41:11):
would Kauai be great or giving practices off. But sitting
out games like this does not work. And here's the
final thing this this can to me highlights the absurdity
of it in the NFL, where every time you take
you step on the field you could get injured and
your career ended. They don't do low management. I mean

(01:41:34):
time now again, sit out the last game or so okay,
but Tom Brady could easily say, right now, you know what,
we're gonna make the playoffs. I'm gonna take a game
or two off. They don't do it in the NFL.
Why are you doing it in the NBA? Uh? You know,
I actually think they do do a little bit of it,

(01:41:54):
as you mentioned, not playing guys in there. I don't
mind the last game or you know what, the game
or two. We get that like during the course of
the season. I'm with you, But I also think that
the problem is everybody copies something that works, and whether
it's tanking or load management or whatever. Um. That that
that's really what it is. This is a fight against

(01:42:16):
the back to back nights. Let's let's let's get to
a couple of things. Um. Was America wrong about Gordon Hayward?
Did he just need a year to get his legs
under him? Uh? Yes? Look, was he maybe a tad
bit overrated? Um? I mean he deserves a MAX There's
far a few lesser players who've gotten MAX deals. Um.

(01:42:40):
But he's Look, he's a very good player. And I
always used to say, this guy made the All Star
team in the West two years. This guy, you know,
played great in the playoffs when he got there with Utah. So, Um,
I think he is a baller and he's showing it
and I liked it. I like the Celtics. I mean,

(01:43:01):
I think Philly and Milwaukee are the two top teams
in the East, but the Celtics are clearly better because
Kimber is doing his thing. And yet the other three guys,
Jason Tatum, jay Len Brown and Gordon Hayward are all
getting There's all around seventeen eighteen points and above a game.
So it's good to see Hayward doing this, and um,

(01:43:24):
now where does he where is he? Us? He's not
the best player on the team, but you know, he's
one of their stars. They kind of have a big
four without having a superstar. So, um, that formula have
worked before, Doug. Remember the Pistons with Chauncey Billups and
those guys, they won a championship. Um, so maybe that
formula can work every now and then. Christopers are our

(01:43:48):
guest on the Doug Outlive show on Fox Sports Radio.
Why do we all see what's gonna happen with the
Houston Rockets and yet they're not gonna do anything. They're
not gonna do anything to fix it. Mike and Tony
Man and I'm I am one. I think I'm in
the minority. I know I'm in the minority when I
say I think he's a Hall of Fame coach Don
Nelson's in the Hall of Fame as a coach. I

(01:44:09):
think Mike Antoni is very comparable to Nelly Um. However,
he's a one trick pony and he doesn't change a
thing a thing, and he doesn't emphasize defense. When he
had Jeff bis Deelic there, you know, bis Dellic did
it and they were a good defensive team, and that's
when they arguably may have been the best team in

(01:44:31):
the league. They lost in seven to the Warriors when
Chris Paul got hurt um, but since then has been
downhill defensively. And I haven't been a huge fan of
the Westbrook Hardened pairing as far as winning the championship.
But that's not their biggest problem. Everything is problem is
they are completely uh, they don't they don't try on defense.

(01:44:54):
And you know, Doug, how it is defense. Very few
people want to defend. So you have to have a
coach who emphasizes it and who drills it into your head,
who works on it with you in practice, and who
is constantly yapping about it during the game to get
you to defend. And they don't have anything even close

(01:45:15):
to that. And that's their biggest problem. So, look, they're
gonna make the playoffs. I still feel very confident they're
gonna win fifty something games, but they may get bounced
in the first round, and they certainly have no chance
in my view, of winning the championship. Chris brus sorry,
joining us on the Doug Gott Show. The show is
called The Odd Couple. It begins at a seven eastern

(01:45:37):
four o'clock Pacific Chris and uh Rob Parker with you
for three hours going through all of the day's stories. Um,
where are we with the Philadelphia seventies sixers? So close
one crazy bounce away from beating Toronto last year? They
lose Jimmy Butler? Are they ready to take that next step?

(01:45:58):
I really think they are. Obviously Butler was great for them,
he was there closer. But getting Al Horford, I think
is that helps your chemistry. He's a pro's pro, he's professional. Um,
he's gonna bring poise and he still can play, still
can stretch the floor as a big, still plays great defense,
and he's talking. He's gonna be communicating defensively, and they're

(01:46:20):
they're one of the better defensive teams in the league.
Uh So, I do think I think they win the East.
I mean, they essentially have four stars, you know, mb
Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris, and Al Horford. Um, obviously a
couple of them are on the lower level, but and
then their role players are playing all right, you know. Um,

(01:46:40):
so I do think they take the next step. Um, Milwaukee,
if I said, is a threat, Boston is more of
a threat than people probably imagine. But I'm betting r
Philly to get there in the East. You know, the
the post Durant Warriors discussion is interesting. It is kind
of everything we thought right where the blow up was

(01:47:03):
a big deal, but Steve Kerr pointed to other things
that they kept quiet. Do you have any idea with
the other things that they kept quiet were? No, I
mean I don't. And um, you know you heard we
all heard rumblings about k D and you know, thinking
he was leaving. I think it may refer to just
Draymond's overall volatility, you know. I mean I have taught

(01:47:25):
the people who have said that. You know, remember a
few years ago when the when Draymond went off with
Steve Kurd during halftime on Christmas Day. At least the
Sautiers overheard and reported it. I was told that that
was not an uh irregular encourage that a lot of
times Draymond would go off on you know, kur and

(01:47:47):
and uh, he's just a volatile guy and they knew
that was him, and and they loved love him as
he is. But that can be can great on people,
and we're on people, and so I think that was
part of the issue. Um, But I I don't know
exactly anything else Steve Kerr may have been talking about.

(01:48:08):
He may have thrown something, He may have just kind
of thrown it out, uh to deflect a little bit
from that one incident. I don't think that was the
drive before, and I think the rant was out of
there anyway. But I think it was just one one
of many factors that led him to leave. I tend
to agree with to great stuff as always, Christa the
show is the Odd Couple. I'll make sure you check

(01:48:29):
it out seven o'clock eastern, four o'clock Pacific, right here
on Fox Sports Radio alongside Crazy Uncle Rob Parker. Thanks
so much, dude. Alright, pleasure pleasures all mine. Doug gottli
Shall rolls on here on Fox Sports Radio. Let's uh,
let's get you ready for the night's action. A ton
of things to get to and one of the NFL's
top wide receivers is finally back. Oh wait, maybe not.

(01:48:50):
We'll share it with you next. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three p m. Easter noon Pacific. Do you gutta see this?
Injury up eight from the Warriors Kevon Looney. Warriors center
Kevon Looney has miss the last six games due to
nerve related symptoms underwain a bettery of test following test,
We're a hopeful encourage treatment playing prescribe will allow Davon

(01:49:11):
to return in the near future. Will update you in
two weeks. Dude, can you name how many Warriors? Can
you actually name? Right now? How many? How many? Uh?
Ryan are You're You're not looking at the internet right now,
are you? No? Don't do this to me on the air?
Um okay? AMRII spellman? Yeah man. I watched their game

(01:49:36):
the other night against the Trailblazers. Yeah. I ran into
Damian a little last night at I was I was
having a drink with a buddy mine at a bar
and actually the hotel that where almost the team stay
and I was like, dude, He's like, I mean, you've
got no scatter report on some of these guys. I

(01:49:56):
I know, Mark, how many? How many? How many can
you name that played in the game against the Portland Trailblazers. Oh, actually,
I have another one because I was actually surprised to
find out he was on the Warriors. I didn't know
he was not on the Kings anymore. Willie Calli Stein's
started for them. Yeah, okay, that's too man. I can't

(01:50:18):
even get half of the starting five. That's bad for
a game. Well, there there's one that played at Boston
College that was supposed to be wide receiver. I tweeted
about he had a good game. Um, yeah, I don't know.
Let's just got those two. I'm drawing a blank on
the rest by or how many can you get without looking?
I was gonna add Eric Pascal to that. Yeah, he
had thirty six and thirteen. Thirty six and thirteen for

(01:50:39):
Eric Pascal Sis by the way, Um, okay, so you
got Eric Pascal, Willie Calli Stein, anybody else. Um, I'm
gonna pass it over. I do not. I'll tell you
right now before you even go with Jenny. That's Warriors
insider John Ramo did not watch the game against the
Trailblazer No, I know, we just throw out a name
and think of who as for them. Yeah, you guys

(01:51:04):
remember Alec Burke's Oh yeah, Colorado, Right yeah, colorad first
round draft pick Marquise Chris Now that's right, right, Um.
They also have Damien Lee. Damian Lee, no, nothing, nothing,
Drexel and louis He played Drexel and he played Louisville's
last year. Glenn Robinson the third started for them, so

(01:51:28):
did Jordan Poole, who was their first draft pick out
of Michigan, and Kai Bowman who uh started four years
at Boston College and went undrafted and in his first
year he started for the Warriors. In his first start,
they took down the Portland Trailblazers. Crazy right, that's there,

(01:51:50):
that Eric Prescal. Those are your Golden State Warriors. Can
you imagine paying what those people paid for those seats?
And that's what they're throwing out there. Let's get to
the press. Press. The press has brought you by Little Caesars.
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(01:52:13):
a little Seeson's location plus tax, we're applicable, Doug. For
those that may have missed your conversation with Cris Bruce
Sar just a few minutes ago, the NBA says they're
fine right now with the Clippers saying that Kauai has
got a bum knee and can't play in back to backs.
So I just wanted to recap that. Speaking of injured knees,
Doug jeans quarterback Patrick Mahomes a full participant in practice today,

(01:52:38):
the Chief's injury report saying as much. Mahomes has missed
the last two games with that dislocated knee. They're in
Nashville to face the Titans on Sunday. Um, what do
you think you think he plays? Yes, yes, I do.
I think he does too. I don't think they should
I think they should wait. I mean wait anything. If

(01:52:59):
it's even close, wait, which is what they're saying they're doing,
being really coy about it. I don't think that that
division is, you know, even close to being settled. And
I think they're gonna need him, and I think they'll
need him in Mexico City. I think the Chargers are
turned that corner. We'll find out tomorro night. Tomorrow night
is a big night if the Raiders win. I feel
like the division is kind of settled. No one actually

(01:53:20):
thinks the Raiders can come back and win the division.
The Chargers. I think people respect. Yeah. Bengals wide receiver
A J. Green was thought to be ready to play
Sunday Old contrere mon frere Zach Taylor, the Bengals head coach,
said after practice that Green was actually held out and
is now considered day to day after his ankle didn't
feel right after today's walk through. Didn't feel right. Huh,

(01:53:43):
I feel right? Interesting do interesting? And they can't do it.
Can't do it? Didn't feel right. I don't know like
I love A J. Green. He clearly wants a new contract,
and all of a sudden they don't trade him and
his ankle doesn't feel right. Interesting. Redskin, Oh, I'm sorry
to cut you off. That's just interesting. Redskins interimed coach
Bill Callahan would not commit to a starting quarterback for

(01:54:05):
week eleven. They have a buy in week ten, but
the NFL Network reports it's believed that Dwayne Haskins will
get his second start of his career against the Jets again,
that's in week eleven. I don't understand the being coy
about it. Yeah, I don't either. I how about giving
the kids some confidence? Maybe that maybe just like a

(01:54:26):
good job, we believe in you or hey for the
next week and a half. This is your starting job.
I mean the whole thing is so weird. Yeah, like
what I don't I don't understand what's gained by it.
I don't either. Maybe to keep the Jets at Bay
from studying, yes, studying that that that Star Studies operation,

(01:54:49):
that Dwayne Haskins film. The uh Rutgers. Yeah, we've talked
about this earlier. Multiple reports are Rutgers spoke with Great
Ciano about returning to be the school's football coach. He
did a great job when he was at Rutgers and
this will be interesting, much greater challenge, obviously, stepping into
the Big Ten where they have been atrocious. You get
out there and pressed. That was the press, all right, So,

(01:55:12):
um my picks pretty much sucked for college basketball last night.
I gave you a pick and it didn't cover. Matt
Breed is going to join us tomorrow. So is Jalen.
Samuel's gonna join us tomorrow. Plus we'll get you ready
for Thursday night football tomorrow. Could have college Who's back,
We've got NBA back, lots of stuff to talk about.
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