The Higher Valleys Podcast

The Higher Valleys Podcast

Welcome to the Higher Valleys Podcast, where former NFL teammates Spencer Paysinger and Jelani Jenkins trade real conversations about fatherhood, sports, ambition, identity, and life after the game. Each week, we unpack the tension ambitious fathers face: chasing success, strengthening marriages, and raising emotionally secure kids… without losing ourselves along the way.

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August 12, 2026 95 mins

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Spencer and Jelani close out summer talking about the stretch before school starts: expensive camps, keeping kids occupied, grandma’s house memories, family recipes, and the kind of unstructured play that used to define the season. From cast-iron skillets and fricassee chicken to oatmeal experiments and birthday beach days, they reflect on what gets passed down through food, family, and the everyday rou...

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Spencer and Jelani spend Episode 54 in their movie and football bag, opening with camp fights, helmet-on chaos, and how fall-camp energy still lives in their bodies years after retirement. From there, they float the idea of a recurring “film study” segment — breaking down movies like Friday from a father’s POV, asking whether Craig and Smokey’s porch decisions would fly in...

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July 29, 2026 110 mins

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Spencer and Jelani open Episode 53 in full dad mode, talking birthday parties, boring trolley‑museum gatherings, and why kid celebrations should be about joy and movement instead of adult aesthetics or history lessons. From smoking meats in a friend’s backyard to yard‑work rituals in beat‑up Kobe’s, they explore how millennial Black fathers find peace in simple routines while also navigating mosquitoes, n...

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July 22, 2026 60 mins

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Spencer and Jelani keep it personal in Episode 52, opening with a conversation about being stoic versus being honest, and how hard it can feel to hold in emotion when you’re wired to talk, feel, and process out loud. Jelani comes back from two and a half weeks away from his kids for a funeral in Louisiana, and the episode starts in that in-between space of grief, family, and trying to reset your body after too ...

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July 15, 2026 107 mins

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Spencer and Jelani open Episode 51 with an empty house, sitting in the ache of 15 days without wife and kids and the news that Jelani's wife’s grandmother has passed. From cleaning the garage and resetting house standards to deep empathy for dads who can’t see their kids because of court battles or co‑parenting conflict, they explore what it means to really miss your family, hold grief, and still show up ...

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July 8, 2026 85 mins

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Spencer and Jelani hit Episode 50 fresh off Fourth of July, using fireworks, Palm Springs trips, and golf rounds to talk about patriotism as Black Americans and what “America” feels like in a World Cup year versus inside their own neighborhoods. From bottles, breakfast burritos, and dog‑walker joints on the course to tee shots with MAGA vibes and racial undertones in England–Mexico and the US World ...

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July 1, 2026 104 mins

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Spencer and Jelani celebrate Episode 49 in the thick of a big life shift — Spencer finishing his master’s program, turning 38, and stumbling into “ice cream week” at Whole Foods with eleven pints of Jeni’s, Reese’s Cups, and a rare morning of sleeping in instead of grinding. They use Toy Story 5, tablets, and a three‑generation road trip to South Carolina as a lens on mid‑l...

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June 24, 2026 91 mins

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Spencer and Jelani sit 24 hours removed from Father’s Day, unpacking a week that swung from Rufus Du Sol concerts and cycling‑class playlists to balcony prayers, ancestral gratitude, and the strange guilt of trying to “rest” when your to‑do list is screaming. They explore how alternative music, intentional car‑ride playlists, and older movies like Iron Giant and Toy Story 5 are quietly healing their...

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June 17, 2026 119 mins

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Spencer and Jelani are officially in summer mode, trading stories about first‑time dad grilling, Frankie Beverly Sundays, and why “outside is too expensive” when you can be in the backyard with kids, sandals, and a plate full of protein. They walk through the ground rules that keep work‑from‑home fathers sane in June — pre‑packing lunches, limiting snack requests, structuring screen t...

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June 10, 2026 85 mins

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Spencer and Jelani unpack why hip‑hop is the only genre that refuses to age gracefully, tracing it back to crack‑era fatherlessness, systemic design, and an industry that keeps “old heads” out of the spotlight even as artists like Jay‑Z and Drake dominate the discourse. From there, they connect culture to real life, talking about choosing rest over party buses, kids waking up at 7 a.m. no matter what, and...

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June 3, 2026 70 mins

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Spencer and Jelani start by unpacking a ten‑year anniversary that didn’t go exactly as planned, and how letting go of a “perfect” La Quinta redo opened the door to something more intimate, rooted, and family‑centered.  From rooftop bars in LA to a backyard ceremony officiated by their kids, they explore how legacy is built in real time through the spaces you create, not just the milesto...

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May 27, 2026 93 mins

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A funny electric slide moment opens the door to something deeper: confidence isn’t just personal — it’s cultural, communal, and learned in real time. Spencer and Jelani move from dance floor lessons to NBA futures (Wimby, Chet) and what longevity really requires: health, discipline, and mental resilience to match the gift. They also zoom out on how media figures and social platforms shape narratives...

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May 20, 2026 68 mins

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Spencer just walked across the stage for his master's, in addition to the victory lap, the room got honest. This week is about what celebration actually feels like when you're running on empty — and what burnout, support systems, and family legacy have to do with the same conversation. Jelani brings the systemic lens: athlete activism without infrastructure, comedy as cultural pressure valve, and what it means ...

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May 13, 2026 69 mins

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Jelani and Spencer open up about Mother’s Day, fatherhood, and what it really means to build legacy as a dad—beyond one holiday or one “perfect” gesture. They swap stories about kids’ performances, community events, and the quiet moments that remind you why showing up matters. The episode then zooms out to culture and Hollywood: the British vs. American actor debate, the specific lane fo...

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May 6, 2026 51 mins

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Jelani and Spencer sit down for a live Higher Valleys conversation with mindfulness leader and former NFL player Soul Cole, recorded at the Pro Athlete Community Accelerate conference in Phoenix. They open with real-life updates—ten-year anniversaries, LA proximity to fame, and what it means to be “in the mix” without being starstruck—before shifting into the deeper work of presence and gr...

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April 29, 2026 108 mins

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Jelani and Spencer unpack what it looks like to parent with both strength and softness—especially inside youth sports, where pride, pressure, and old wounds can show up fast. From spring-break chaos to sideline coaching, they talk discipline as trust-building, how to protect a kid’s joy, and why confidence has to be owned from the inside. The conversation widens into legacy and culture: the NFL Draft as a...

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April 15, 2026 118 mins

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Spencer and Jelani wrestle with the tension of loving art created by complicated people—using Kanye as the mirror. They move through mental health, accountability, and the weight of cultural influence, while grounding the conversation in real life: festivals, performance, fatherhood, legacy, and what it means to teach the next generation how to hold truth with compassion.

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March 25, 2026 106 mins

Jelani and Spencer unpack what “authentic” really means in today’s music—how hip hop carries cultural memory, why the internet demands perfection, and how social media can turn every moment into a verdict on the artist. From Jack Harlow to LaRussell to the over-the-top Spider-Man trailer discourse, they explore critique, grace, and the difference between performance and real identity. Then they shift inward:...

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March 18, 2026 77 mins

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Midlife can feel like a second puberty—same awkward growth, higher stakes, and a clearer view of what actually matters. Jelani and Spencer unpack the 30–42 mental shift: mortality showing up in quiet moments, gratitude getting louder, and priorities tightening around family, health, and purpose. From youth sports lessons and NBA mythology to Ryan Coogler’s rise and Lauren Halsey’s community ar...

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March 11, 2026 98 mins

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Jelani Jenkins and Spencer Paysinger move through the real terrain of fatherhood: the tension between urgency and presence, the weight of legacy, and the responsibility of modeling humanity in real time. They talk discipline without ego, love with firmness, and the quiet work of teaching kids why standards exist. From ancestry and cultural roots to Nipsey Hussle’s long-view impact, the episode stays grounded in...

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