Before It Was Mainstream
Before It Was Mainstream shares rare interviews from the Hieronimus & Co archive, hosted by Dr. Bob Hieronimus and Dr. Zohara Hieronimus. For over 40 years, they spoke with pioneers in spirituality, metaphysics, esoteric traditions, UFO research, holistic healing, alternative science, and the New Paradigm movement. Each episode brings listeners timeless insights from visionaries who explored consciousness, hidden wisdom, and healing practices long before they entered the mainstream. Whether you’re curious about astrology, sacred traditions, or spiritual teachers, this podcast offers essential context for today’s seekers. Discover the roots of modern spirituality through conversations that remain as relevant now as when they were first recorded. Full interviews available at 21stCenturyRadio.com
Episodes
Dr. Bob interviews Dr. Matt McKay, clinical psychologist, founder of the Bay Area Trauma Recovery Clinic, and author of the Luminous Landscape of the Afterlife. After grieving the tragic death of his son, Jordan, McKay discovered his own ability to communicate with the “other side.” McKay now shares what he’s learned from Jordan about the afterlife in hopes to soothe anxiety about death for those still on Earth.
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Frequent guest of 21st Century Radio, Dr. Raymond Moody reviews the 7 aspects of "shared death experience." These reflect common reports from people who experience a kind of empathic state of consciousness at the bedside of a dying loved one. To listen to more 21st Century Radio interviews with Dr. Moody, head to his guest page on the Hieronimus & Co website.
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Ghost writer Arthur Myers chats with Dr. Bob during this 1990 Dr. Bob Show Halloween special. Myers clarifies the difference between a ghost and a poltergeist and shares his favorite haunted landmarks from around the US. Make sure to also check out his appearance just months prior to this interview in which he shares more ghostly tales about celebrity specters like Mae West, Judy Garland, and John Lennon!
Zoh interviews Caiyam Carroll (known as “Cain” at the time) about his book The Spiritual Practice of Walking, Standing, Sitting and Lying Down and what it means to live a truly integrated and embodied spiritual practice. Carroll emphasizes somatic awareness as a key to being a student of our human experience and allowing life to be our teacher.
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From the cutting floor: Zoh offers clarity on how money can change the nature of the healing exchange, plus guidance for identifying the right spiritual teacher.
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Dr. Zoh sits down for another new interview to discuss paranormal experiences. The Hieronimuses discussed these throughout their years on the air with the aim of normalizing the human ability to sense things that are often hard to explain: apparitions of divine beings, guidance from ancestors long deceased, or images from a past lives, for example. Plus Zoh shares her own paranormal experience and what she's learned about refining ...
Dr. Daniel Foor is a ritualist and teacher whose work helps people of all backgrounds access ancestral medicine. Foor emphasizes the reclamation of ritual arts as a method to connect with our near and distant ancestors and thus make meaning of our current incarnation. In conversation with Dr. Zoh, Daniel provides a culturally rich framework for a relationship-centered pathway toward communal healing.
Jim B. Tucker, M.D. is Bonner-Lowry Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences at the University of Virginia. Up until his retirement, he was Director of the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies, where he continued the work of Dr. Ian Stevenson with children who report memories of previous lives. In this interview, Tucker joins Dr. Zoh to share his research and discuss the confounding questions of life after death,...
Marcel Vogel, founder of Psychic Research Inc and influential bioenergetics researcher returned to the Dr. Bob Show just months after his first appearance to share more on his findings. Vogel dedicated his life to studying the energies of thought, prayer, and meditation and how to use crystals to amplify these energies. Vogel speaks with a few callers and shares about how the human energy field connects to that of water and the Ear...
Dr. Marcel Vogel made his first appearance on 21st Century Radio in early 1988. A former materials scientist, Vogel founded Psychic Research Inc. just years before, dedicating the rest of his life to the study of bioenergetics, including the use of crystals for energetic healing. Vogel answers questions on how crystal formations interact with human energy, the proper way to cleanse crystals, and how they can support meditation and ...
Dr. Allan J. Hamilton, M.D. joins Dr. Bob to discuss his experiences witnessing near-death experiences, premonitions, and other unexplained events in over 30 years as a neurosurgeon and how these experiences changed his perception of medicine, life, and the human spirit. These stories are shared in his book The Scalpel and the Soul: Encounters with Surgery, the Supernatural, and the Healing Power of Hope.
In this 1988 interview, Drs. Bob and Zoh talk with energetic healer, educator, author, and former NASA physicist Barbara Brennan about her research on the human energetic field. Brennan describes the nature of the aura, how it's been measured, and leads listeners through an exercise to see their own energy. A caller also shares his experience seeing the human aura. At the time, Brennan had just released her highly influential book ...
Pioneering parapsychology research, psychic, and author Ingo Swann talks to Dr. Bob about his iconic work Penetration: The Question of Extraterrestrial and Human Telepathy. Originally recorded in 1999, this show features more of Swann's backstory as a participant in government-funded research and development of remote viewing practices, as well as developing theories of extraterrestrial and human telepathic abilities.
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Psychic, artist, and friend of the show, Ingo Swann, joins Dr. Zoh to discuss the parapsychology of mass apparitions of the Virigin Mary. Swann shares some of the stories detailed in his book The Great Apparitions of Mary and his analysis of social roles taken up by the media, witnesses, and skeptics surrounding each event.
Interview originally recorded in 1996.
For the full interview, visit 21stcenturyradio.com/archive
Dr. Edgar Mitchell began researching consciousness after his trip to the moon in 1971 as a part of NASA's Apollo 14 mission. In this clip from a 2018 appearance on 21st Century Radio®, Mitchell talks with Dr. Zoh Hieronimus about what happened in space and what he's learned since about the nature of consciousness, resonance, and quantum physics. Dr. Mitchell work in parapsychology carries on today through the Institute of Noetic Sc...
H&Co Producer Sika Wheeler sits down with Dr. Zoh to kick off the latest Hieronimus endeavor: Before It Was Mainstream, a podcast bringing Bob and Zoh's years of transformational interviews to new audiences. Dr. Zoh discusses the early days of 21st Century Radio® and the journey she and Bob weathered together to bring information about spiritual evolution to the public.
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