Gentlemen J.D.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, A couple lines are open if
you want to jump on. Let me ask you, did
you watch last night's debate? What did you make of it?
And do you think who do you think won? Jd
Vance or tenemn Tim Waltz, And in particular because I'm

(00:24):
getting a lot of tough guy liberals on the text
line going on about how Waltz apparently cleaned jd Vance's clock,
that Waltz came out the winner, that this was an
outstanding performance on the part of temp On Tim, I
would love for you to call the show and make
your case. I'll give you sixty seconds uninterrupted and you

(00:49):
can tell us why you think Waltz won last night.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Harry in Chempsford, Thanks for holding Harry, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank Jeff.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
How are you.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm very good, especially after last night, Harry, feeling excellent.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Me too.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
And I think that's going to be a blank set
of minutes on your on airtime trying to find that
call coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
For what night.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Every time every time walt was talking, you notice Jad
looked up with that face, that beautiful faith of his
bom secure, determined and dedicated. I just saw that in
that man's face. I listened to some of his other
debates on on tvsday afternoon, and I heard that Walt

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is going to be well prepared, and I had some thoughts,
and then when it started, you know, I was I
was just so proud to have that man going to
be second in command of my country. And when we
win in less than a month, and we're going to
do it, hellelujah. And you know, I want to say
one thing can close him? Oh and camp On. Tim's

(02:10):
facial expressions looks like Popeye on steroids. Think of that mouth.
You know that. Anyway, President Trump, yesterday I heard a
in a in a speech saying how the chart moved
his head and he loves that chart. And you know

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that might be his thinking, but he had a he
had a he had an experience with the hand of
God that day. And if he's listening, he probably is.
Please say it right, sir, that God moved your head,
not the chart. The chart was a tool, but God
moved your head and moved that bullet from taking your life.

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And praise Him. And we're going to win, and I
want you to be my president, mister Trump.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Amen, Harry very well said, and thank you very much
for that call. And I do agree with you. God
saved them that day. That was the hand of God,
no question about it, no question about it. Barbara in Maryland.
Thanks for holding Barbara, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And thanks to taking my call.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
My pleasure. I loved JD.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Van, but I did want to share something with you
and the audience before I said something about the debates.
They have already found one point four million questionable illegal
the mail in ballots that have been sent out to
a lot of bogus addresses businesses, and that's in Michigan.

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One point four millions have been sent out for people
to send back in.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
So we need to be a.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Where the fact they are going to use those illegal
aliens to try to steal his selection. That was breaking
news this morning and all of you'll probably hear about
a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
JD.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Vance showed me I liked him anyway after watching the
movie He'll Billy Elegy, great movie. I've liked him since
I watched that movie because I saw where he came from.
People who come from that kind of background that he
grew up in and become demanded he is. That's not

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an easy task and I have a lot of respects
for him. And after watching him dice and slice, Don
Rickles slash Popeye, it's kind of like Popeye. You remind
me of Don Rickles, but your previous caller prepare them
to Popeye, and I thought, yeah, you know how Popeye
would say, yeah, blow me down.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well, let me ask you this, Barbara. A lot of
people are comparing him to Elmer Fudd. They're saying that
All's miss is the hot that'd be a perfect Elmer Fudd.
What do you think of that?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
That one too, boy. I'll tell you what a cartoon
character we've got. So imagine the Joker and that would
be Kamala and Popeye is Don Rickles's VP, the Jokers president,
and the comedian dig jd Vance did a fantastic job,
and he did. I've heard people say, oh, he didn't

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bring up the Chinese connection and this. He didn't bring this.
What he did is exactly what I heard you say earlier.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
He do, Barbara, Can you hang on? I'm up. We're
up against a break six one seven two, six, six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, let's go
right back to Barbara in Maryland. Barbara saying, look, yeah,
you can nitpick all you want. He should have mentioned
Waltz's ties to the Chinese Communist Party, how he allowed

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Minneapolis to burn during the BLM riots, But that jd.
Vance really delivered on one key thing he needed to do,
and then we got cut off. Please Barbara, pick up
where you left off.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Jd.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Vance pointed out successes of President Trump's accomplishments in this
economy and the respect we had in the world. Our
financial success is what was happening in this country. A
lot of people couldget just how good we had it
during President Trump's administration, and he brought that home and

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to me successfully compared it to the failures of the
of the last three and a half years. And I
really nailed it for people who are, you know, looking,
they don't like Trump's personal they don't like this whatever.
We're not electing a pope here, We're elected someone to
save this country. And I think he really nailed that

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last night. And he maneuvered around those commentators like they
were trying to rescue Tim all the time, because he
really needed help. But JD stayed on point with him
and made him actually look like a fool, because I
don't think he ever intended to say that he knows
a school he's friends with school shooters. I mean, when

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you make people get so discombobulated that they make that
to those kind of statements, he was just off his game.
Ti Tim Wats is not a bright man, and as
a matter of fact, I think he's dangerous, dangerously stupid,
you know what I'm saying, And he's worse than Kamala.
We just simply can't have that. But JD did his job.

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Anyone who does not remember what it was like from
twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, we nailed that we got
to live with what these people are.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Doing at gas prices.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
He kept bringing that back. You know, gas prices are
food prices. He dealt with what everyday people are dealing
with us, and only the Hollywood leagues and rich folks
don't care about gas and food prices and the price
of housing had Uh. He did it as far as
I'm concerned, and uh, we don't need another other people
also talking about Trump needs to debate Kamala Harris for

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what she is an empty vessel with nothing to say,
so he doesn't need to waste his time debating her again.
I think this thing is over and Donald Trump is
going to be president if they don't steal it. We've
got to be on our game. Everybody, when you go
to the polls, wear a hat and a T shirt
that says Border Patrol. Make them illegals run away.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Just wear a hat.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Just cheat, Barbara, never know, they'll never know which one
of us is really real Border Patrol.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
But I'm tellus, Barbara, Barbara, thank you very much for
that call. Six one seven, six six sixty eight. I
agree with you. Oh look, I think this is over.
Last night was the final nail political nail in the
coffin of Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz. I think there's

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no question now. The only way they can win it
now is if they steal it. All of the energy,
all of the momentum, all of the passion. The polls now,
the surge is all now behind Trump and behind Waltz.
And to show you how bad it is for Kamala,
Rasmussen now has the latest poll on Trump in the

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state of New York. Okay, we're talking blue New York.
Trump is now within single digits. He's within striking distance
of Kamala in New York. To me, that's a far
five alarm fire. That's a five alarm fire. So no,

(09:52):
I don't think Trump needs to do any more debates
for what to have more moderators like we saw last night.
And to me, this was one of the best moments
of the debate last night is when he turned it
around on the moderators. So if you remember, they come
in and they state that the rules are these are
their rules, that there'll be no fact checking by moderators

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of the candidates. Well, of course they can't help themselves.
They start breaking their own rules, and of course they're
not checking, you know, fact checking Tienam and Tim No, no, no, no,
they're fact checking JB. And at one point they're talking
about the Haitian migrants in Springfield and Mark I believe

(10:39):
it was Margaret Brennan, and Margaret Brennan makes this comment like,
you know, well, he just needs to be said. All
those Haitians are have legal status, they're legally in Springfield,
and JD. Vance is like, no, no, they're here on

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false asylum claims because they abused the CBP one app
that was set up by Harris and Biden to allow
these people to come in by avoiding and ignoring the law.
And so Margaret Brennan is trying to fact check Vance

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for telling the truth about the migrants in Springfield, Ohio.
And then as Vance says, well, no, I'm sorry, you're
fact checking me. I'm gonna fact check you because you're
not telling the truth, they cut his mic off. They
literally mute his mic, but he keeps talking and even

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though the mic is muted, you can still hear Vance.
It summed the whole thing up. It was three on
one and they were fact checking the truth, and then
Vance turned it tables and fact checked the fact checkers.
I'm telling you it was masterful. Here it is roll

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cut nineteen Mike Maura, Thank you, senator. We have so
much to get to mar I think it's important of
the economy. Thanks Margaret. The rules were that you got
in a fact check, and since you're fact checking me,
I think it's important to say what's actually going on.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
The senatortation of a league immigration Margaret Bye.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Thank you, senator for describing the legal problems. Have so
much to get the Senator so much book since nineteen ninety.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Thank you, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
You want to have that has not been on the books.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Something gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics
are cut.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I mean, it was disgusting, honestly, was disgusting, almost as
bad as ABC News. It was insulting. By the way, again,
I told you Waltz is an incorrigible liar. The guy's
a compulsive liar. It hasn't been around since nineteen ninety.
That's a blatant lie, a ballfaced lie. Vance is completely right.
The CBP one app was created under Harris and jan Biden.

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It was them, and it was a way too short
to get around the asylum laws of our country to
let him in from Venezuela, to let him in from Haiti,
to let him in from Nicaragua, to let him in
from El Salvador, to let him in from certain countries
in Central America, and from Haiti, where you don't even

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need literally you don't even have to pass a criminal
background check. All you got to do is show up
at a port of entry at the appointed time. In
you go. And so jv Vans is saying no they're
ignoring our asylum laws. You're not supposed to come into
the country that way. It's an abuse of the system.

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And twenty thousand migrants in a town of forty thousand,
and he went on, it's driven up housing costs true, rent, True,
it's created a massive increase in crime, true, traffic accidents. True,
they've stolen most of the jobs from the lower income,
working class people in Springfield, black, white, Latino. True, he goes,

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and you want more of this, And of course they
don't want the truth to get out, so muta mics,
muta mics cut them off. Now. I said it in
my opening monologue. I want to say it again because
it needs to be said. Republicans were screaming bloody murder

(14:45):
again after the debate, saying this was blatantly unfair, it
was unprofessional, it was naked censorship. They're trying to silence him. Hey,
you only have yourselves to blame. I'm sorry. Yes, what
they did it was disgusting, no question, But how many
times do they have to do it to you? Like

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after a while, it's like again, Lucy and Charlie Brown,
stop kicking the football. She's gonna pull it on you.
Every time, Like, come on, man, you know the expression
fool me. You know, fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me. How about fool me
twice one hundred times? Shame on me? So when are

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you gonna learn your lesson? Stop doing debates with the
fake news media because it's always rigged, And let me
just say one last thing, okay, and then I'm gonna
I promise, I'm gonna go back to the phone lines.
Do you know what JD. Vance? And I understand everybody's saying, Jeff,

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he should have said this. He should have said that
he left a lot on the field. But that's because
it was three on one. Can you imagine if this
was one moderator who just let them discuss the issues
and didn't need to make himself for herself the story.
In other words, a free, fair debate. Vance would a

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nuketom I'm not saying knock him out like last night.
He would have nuked them. He would have exposed the
ties to the Chinese Communist Party, I mean everything that
people are saying. He would have gone on about black
Lives matter and how Minneapolis was burned to the ground
six one seven two six sixty eight sixty eight is

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the number. Okay, doctor Grace putting liberals in their place
is warming up in the bullpen. She's gonna be on
in ten minutes. Trust me, you're gonna want to hear
her take on last night's debate super quick. This is
from five oh eight. You can text us seven zero
four seven zero seven zero four seven zero. Jeff jb.

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Vance called out the moderators for lying to the audience,
and what did CBS do. They immediately muted him. The
legacy media is clearly controlled by the Democrats, no question,
no question. That's why they had to mute him, because

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you were saying you're lying and I'm going to expose
your lies. Click turn them off. Tom in framing Ham,
thanks for holding Tom, and welcome JEF.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I just want to talk about the exchange that you
just referenced. I just want to quickly go over it.
Here's Nora O'Donnell. She says, okay, all right, we're going
to move on to the economy. Then JD explains the
CBP one how it's being used by the regime to
illegally parole migrants into the country. He explains how these

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mostly unvetted migrants simply have to fill out and submit
an online form and approval is expedited, where they jump
ahead of everyone, and many are flown. Many don't sure
they can show up at the points of entry and
they're let in the land points of entry, but many
are flown across the border where they receive legal status.

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I don't know if you mentioned it, but that's the
way it was. Brennan then says, okay, and you just
played this. Thank you, mister Vance for explaining the legal
process to us. Then Timmy, Timmy blurts out, this has
been around since nineteen ninety, implying the CBB one, the

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app created by the may Orkis DHS, has been around
since nineteen ninety. Here are the two lies, okay, and
it's important to point them out. One for Brandon, CBP
one is not part of the legal process. In fact,
it circumvents existing immigration law and was meant as a
way to quietly bring aliens into the country versus having

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them show up in numbers adder between cross land crossings.
So Brent and CBP one not part of the legal process.
It's an extra legal process. It's illegal. As a matter
of fact. It was mentioned in the Articles of Impeachment
two Timmy and this continue continually lies throws stuff against

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the wall and seeing if it sticks. CBP one was
launched in twenty twenty two, not nineteen ninety the other.
The last thing I'm going to say, as many. I
don't know if you remember a couple of years ago
at the del Rio crossing a bunch of my a
bunch of hations showed up there. Okay, then they get

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then they start magically disappearing. I watched CBS News was
on a Friday night. Norodoodles gets on and says, as
many as one thousand of these these Haitians have been deported.
Three weeks later, when this is all cooled down, mayork
Has shows on with Chris Wallace when he was still

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doing the Fox stuff. Chris Wallace asked him how many
of those how many of those Haitians were actually were
released into the United States. Chris he goes, was it
more than a more than five thousands? Mayork Has says yes,
was it more than ten was it ten thousand? Mayor

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was it more than ten thousand? Mayork Has said, yes,
so many of these Haitians that are probably sitting there
in Springfield, Ohio, probably came in this way and that
was about as illegal. That was about as an illegal
entry into the United States as you can.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Oh, they bull rushed the border. I remember that. And
then they lied, say remember that border patrol on horseback
were whipping the Haitians. Do you remember that? And they
were saying, all it's like slavery, It's like slavery. And
it turned out nobody whipped anybody, but the media lied
about it. My orcis lied about it. Biden and Harris

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lied about it. So you're no, you're right, Tom. Look
they live. They've been lying about these Haitian migrants. They've
been lying about illegals since day one, and Vance exposed
them last night, and that's why they had to mute
his mike. I mean, it was disgusting, it really was.
It's shameful. And by the way, these are the same

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people that later would go on in the debate threat
to democracy, threat to democracy. And again I thought Fans
was brilliant saying, don't talk about January sixth A. There
was a peaceful transfer of power. Biden became president even
though we stole the election. But let that go, and
b you're the one censoring everybody. Censorship is the number

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one threat to our country's democracy. And who's engaging in that?
You hell, you were just doing it to him fifteen
minutes us a goal, Tom outstanding call. Thank you very
much for that call, Don in the great state of
New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Don and welcome.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Good morning, mister Kooner. I don't tell you hey first,
I have a meme Uncle scar in the Lion King
could be Kamala Harris. Stick with me and you'll never
go hungry again. So I'm interested to hear what you
think about this, the typical litany of lies about Trump.

(22:32):
You know, good people on both sides. He's a salon
and all that stuff. I didn't hear a lot of
that in the debate last night.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I mean, what's your theory. Why do you think we
didn't hear that?

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Don I think they didn't want to hear vance, you know,
look at the camera and start tearing all those lives
apart because they know their lies. I agree, I'm talking
about the moderator.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, no, I agree. I agree. And notice they didn't
do the whole Hitler thing. They didn't do the whole
he's a tyrant. He's a wanna be dictator. He's because look,
it was pretty obvious within ten to fifteen minutes of
the debate, Vance had so established his intellectual dominance, his policy,
you know, his grasp of policy, and honestly, how what

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a nimble debater he is.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
See that's the thing. You can't fake it. It's not
just that he was prepped. He was, but he's a
highly educated, well read man. You can just see that.
And the other thing done that they've underestimated. They made
a big mistake. Waltz has been running from the media
for how many weeks now, he just won't do an interview,

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but Vance does interview after interview after interview after interview.
So you know, it's like a fighter who's had one
hundred fights. He came into the ring. He was lean, mean,
he was ready. The other guy had complete ring rust
and it showed. And really, Dawn, I mean Vance rhetorically,

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he beat him like a drum. I mean it was.
It was almost as bad as trump SmackDown of Biden
on CNN on June twenty seventh. It was a horrible,
humiliating night for Waltz and for Kamala there's no question.
There's no question, Dawn, excellent point. Thank you for that call.

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That's why they didn't even try some of the Shenanigans
because they realized, well, now Vance will kill us. Let's
not even go there. No, he'll intellectually dismember us. So
let's just leave it alone. Let's just leave it alone.
Diana in Grottin. Thanks for holding Diana and welcome.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Yeah, hello, good morning, Good morning Dan. If it hasn't
been discussed yet, I just want to point out that
I think jd Vance answered the question about pro family
very well, especially for those who may be on the
fence voting either way, because pro family is multifaceted. It's
not just about the birth of the baby. It's also
the aftercare, and it is expensive for child's care. So

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I don't know if you want to elaborate on your
thoughts on that. But I also am curious because I
feel like in the last presidential day in here, no
one really fact checked to confirm what the Minnesota abortion
law is. And I feel like Jade Vance is like
the governor because he said it perfectly and Wals didn't
really have an answer to that.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
He says, no, that's not it, So what is it?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
So? What is it? Do you know?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Diana, here is exactly the abortion law in Minnesota. Any child,
any baby born in a botched abortion, the mother has,
with the doctor's consent, has the right to terminate that
baby's life. And that includes abortions that are in the

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eighth month and even the ninth months. And it's not
a hypothetical. You can look it up. Eight babies, eight
viable babies. They had two legs, two arms, ahead, heart, lungs, kidneys, livery.
These are babies that would live. Eight babies were murdered,

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that's the only word, were murdered after they were born
during a botched abortion under Waltz's new law. That to
me was what's now Vance throughout the number five. It's
not five, it's eight. Eight babies. Eight babies. These are

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they're born, they're not in the womb now, they're out
of the womb. And the doctor and the mother said
I kill it, which to me is barbaric. I think
Vance was completely right. It's one of the most barbaric
things you can do. And Diana, speaking now, is someone
who's adopted two children, and I love my two children.
You have no idea, how much I love them. I

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can't tell you the waiting list of loving parents. Those
eighth babies would be adopted. I'm not kidding. In a millisecond,
not even a second a millisecond. They would pay whatever
it has to pay. We paid sixty thousand dollars, you
know for the adoption per child. They would pay whatever

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it costs to have those babies and to adopt them
and raise them in a loving, beautiful home. When a
child is born alive in this country, when I'm saying
there's millions on the waiting list, literally millions, it's infanticide.

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It's murder. Tim Waltz should be ashamed of himself. Final
word to you, Diana, Thank you, Thank you Diana six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
I've been looking looking forward to this all morning. Joining
me now Grace Vuoto, my better half, Doctor Grace putting

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liberals in their place. She can hear her here on
WRKO always at this time. She has an absolutely brilliant column.
It's one of the best columns I'm telling you I've
ever read by Grace, and I think it's one of
the best she's ever done. It's called genteel Vance missed
opportunities to expose radical agenda. Whether you agree or disagree,

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you've got to read the column because, man, does she
destroy Kamala in the midst of analyzing this debate. It
is a masterpiece. You can go to WRKO dot com
slash Cooner wrko dot com slash cooner. I'm merging all
of you. Please read it. Pass it on to all
of your friends and family members. Grace, Welcome to the

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Kooner Report. I want to read the opening lead of
your because I think it sets it up beautifully. Quote
Republican Senator jd Vance showed America on Tuesday night that
he is a gentleman, a class act indeed, But was
he too genteel for this moment in American history? Grace,

(29:21):
I know you think jd Vance won. You state that
in your column clearly that he debated circles around Tim Waaltz.
But you said there were key missed opportunities. He needed
to do more, he should have done more. Please explain, Jeff.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
You know, honestly, this morning, I feel a little bit
like that character Mickey and Rocky. You know, It's like
I want to get him in the rims. I'm just
knock him out like that. And I felt like that
all night. It's like he was good. He exploded the
media caricature of him, so we saw who the real
vance is. I do want to give him his due,

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and that's why I took paragraph after paragraph to praise him.
He was a gentleman. He was stately, he was gracious,
he was compassionate, he was intellectually sophisticated, you name it.
He did a lot. Man that was great. So he
deserved to be standing there and for his first, you know,
huge debate with such so much national exposure. He held

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his own and he won. But it wasn't enough for
this dire, urgent moment that we are in right now
in American history. He never wants Ribby exposed the grave
threats that we are facing, we have faced with the
Biden Harris administration, and that we will face even more

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with the Harris Walsh administration. This is not the nineteen fifties,
This is not oh, you know what. We can't find
common ground him. As I wrote in my column, this
is not pickleball in fox below. We are in an urgent,
dire emergency right now. This is a battle for the
heart and soul of our country. We run the Rooks.

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He didn't express any of that urgency. He didn't express
the extent to which the Democratic Party has been radicalized,
so radicalized that Robert F. Kennedy a legend, the Kennedy
family is legendary in the party. That they've walked away
in utter disgusted. This was not supposed to be just
another night, another Tuesday night with snacks in front of

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a TV screen. That is an emergency. When was his passion?
When was his outrage? When were the knockout bulls?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well, you know, Grace, to be fair to him, look,
you're you know, it's you're asking him to be something
that he's just not. He's not a man of anger.
He's not a man of outrage. He's not a man
of passion. That's more frankly, Donald Trump. You know, Trump
is the street brawler. The Van says, he's more of

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a you know, he's a debater, he's an intellectual, he's
a statesman, he's a policy guy. And to be honest, Grace,
they kept caricaturing him as weird as this ogre, as
this you know, right wing monster. Well, if he came

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out swinging wildly. They say, you see what I tell you.
The guy's crazy. He's an extremist. So he came across
this cool, calm, composed, methodical, logical factual. It blew up
the entire media myth, the caricature delies about him. So
in a way, I think his goal was not to

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be what you wanted him to be. What's saying, oh, Jeff.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
No, I completely disagree with you. With Marco Rubio, for example, debates.
Nobody says that he's an ogre. Nobody says that he's
mean and rude, but he knows, even with intellectual sophistication,
how to go for the jugular. Vance did not go
for the jugular. And it's not because you know, I'm
trying for him to be something that is not. Is

(33:11):
that a few times he flinched when he had a
knockout right in front of them. He kind of choked
a few times when he could have gone for gold,
but he just went for silver.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Give you a couple, Greyson.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yes, I'll give you an example. For example, when he
was asked about the election, why didn't he simply say,
I'm standing in front of the American people and telling
you that there are millions who believe that election was stolen.
We have a serious problem in this country, and you
have no right to demonize citizens who are raising these
serious concerns. Donald Trump was elected now as the Republican

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nominee because there were millions of people who agree with
his perspective and stop demonizing and stop diminishing us. There
were so many moments where he could have said what
Donald Trump says, but with the intellectual sophistication of somebody
that's yell educated. But he didn't, and sometimes he flinched.
There's a little bit too embarrassed, for example, to discuss

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election integrity. That really upset me, to be honest. And
then when we're talking about Tim Walt, there was a
huge opening. They asked him about his trips to China.
Why didn't he say, excuse me, Walt, what do you
have to learn from China? China is stealing our intellectual property.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
We are the model.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
They are not the model. If you're going to bring
students anywhere, you bring them around the United States of
America to learn to learn about democracy, to learn about capitalism,
to learn about freedom. At least before now we have
to struggle to talk about freedom in this country. But anyways,
we are the model, not China. Why are bringing your
students to China. Why didn't he stand there in front

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of the American people, even within his own style. I
want him to use his own style, but I want him.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
To go for gold.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
I want him to knock out the other side. And
by being such a gentleman by the end, Okay, you
won the debate, bravo, but you're generally demeanor in the end,
has conferred legitimacy on them because to the person that's
low information, they didn't see anything other than another night
in America. This is not just another election. So he

(35:16):
left them standing. Leaving them standing right now is not
good enough. I'm sorry, it's not good enough. If we
lose in November, it will be because Donald Trump did
not do a good enough job in the debate with
Harris and Vance won but didn't knock them out.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I know, in particular, you mentioned in your column that
when they mentioned the threat to democracy January sixth, blah
blah blah, you said, Look, the massive opening that Vance
didn't take was the law fair waged against Trump by
the Democrats by Kamala. We've got two minutes.

Speaker 6 (35:54):
Go, Jeff, this is unprecedented. Why didn't he stand there
and say, shame on you? You say that we are
a threat to democracy, that Trump is a threat to democracy.
For a year, you have vilified this man in every way.
You have dragged into every courtroom, you have called him
every name. You have encouraged a vile rhetoric that has
led to assassination attempts. I mean, it's as though none

(36:17):
of this happened. Where was vance? Excuse me? You know,
I want him to be intellectually sophisticated but with the
facts of our time, and he just wouldn't go there.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Okay, Grace, I've got to ask you then, because boy, jeez,
you sure you liked his performance last night, because uh,
you're grading him pretty tough right now? So Larry and Leminster.
By the way, I want to introduce you to Larry
because I think you and Larry would get along. Larry
earlier in the show said if you was to grade JD,

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he would give him a B plus slash as Now,
like me, you're a former professor as well, you were
known as a tough grader.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
What would you get j Jeff, I was a tough
grader it was definitely a B plus. I would say bravo,
but Son, you gotta go all the way for a
plus if you want my real praise. And you know me, Jeff,
I'm a buck buster. I have a buck buster.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
You know that about me.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
I do.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
No, I think it was an A I'll be honest.
I think I think you're being a little bit too
tough on him. But look, I do got to say this.
You make excellent points as always, and your column is
just so well done, so well laid out, and it's
not just about JD. It's the way you destroy Kamala
Harris as you analyze the debate. So I'm urging everybody

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please read it. Trust me, you're gonna love it. Pass
it on to your friends. Genteel Vance Missed Opportunities to
expose radical agenda by Grace Voto. You can read it
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