The Refreshingly Normal Podcast with Kēfla and Cree

A single text and a church livestream blew the lid off a carefully hidden double life—and we walk you through every jaw-dropping turn. We start with the small inconsistency that sparked suspicion, then trace the calm, methodical investigation that followed: unopened mail with secret credit cards, receipts for trips and gifts, a holiday card from another family, and a decade of messages that confirmed everything. The harshest twist?...

Ever notice how stress sneaks into your house wearing different faces—short replies, nitpicking the tiniest thing, or a sudden urge to fix what’s right in front of you? We open up about how we each show stress, why clutter can spike anxiety, and how we’ve learned to spot the early signs before small sparks become big fires. From the social script that tells Black men to “man up” to the habit of masking stress with productivity, we ...

The week starts with small comforts—a heavy hoodie, calm kits for families, rain on the windshield—and quickly widens into the bigger work of care. We swap stories from busy school trainings, a slow nail salon day, and the kind of teacher compliment that fills a bucket at just the right time. Then we open up about a real health scare, the stats around Black men and preventive care, and what it feels like to navigate screenings, sci...

What if a week could be both tender and tough? We open with a restorative practices conference that felt like a genuine mindset reset—circles over punishment, dignity over discipline—and the very real need to decompress after days packed with heavy stories. That leads us into a candid look at sleep on the road: light leaks, hotel A/C quirks, anxious thoughts, and the small tweaks that finally make rest possible. Back home, we’re li...

If real life is a mosaic, this one clicks the pieces together: a cough finally fading, a yard trimmed to perfection, sauna small talk that turns into a debate on fasting, and the quiet victory of getting back to the gym. We trade everyday wins before shifting into the work that fills us up—Cree’s week of trainings, an unexpectedly vulnerable day with high school leaders, and a bright moment with gifted fifth graders building ADHD a...

A perfect-weather homecoming turns into a masterclass on what really sustains us—rituals that root identity, small alerts that protect our peace, and honest talks that make relationships sturdier. We start with the warmth of tailgates, band pride, and the funny near-miss of a fake valet in a brown sweatsuit, then move into an inheritance dilemma that hits harder than expected: a $1.8M house promised to a cousin’s grandson while a n...

A first grader hands a bus driver a note—“Call 911. My mom is being held hostage.”—and everything stops. We walk through what happened, why a quick-thinking adult matters, and the unglamorous systems that make help possible: routes, names, addresses, dispatch, and the calm to act when rules say “no phones.” That story threads into our life in schools—Kefla’s first IEP in a decade, the anxiety and pride of getting the details right,...

Ever been called "OG" by someone half your age? Had a date pull out their baby tooth collection over dinner? Discovered your online match looked nothing like their photos? Welcome to the wild world of dating disasters, brought to you with unfiltered honesty by Kefla and Lucrecia.

This episode begins with tales from our fall break adventures in Lower Alabama (the real LA, as Kefla calls it), where despite swelteri...

Pull up a chair for an unfiltered peek into the lives of educators as we share our most jaw-dropping, hilarious, and sometimes shocking moments from the classroom. From confrontations with angry parents wearing blue plastic gloves (to avoid leaving fingerprints!) to being chased through school hallways by a vengeful bird, these stories capture the unpredictable nature of working in education.

The episode begins with nostal...

Ever wonder if your dating standards are helping or hurting your chances at real connection? In this candid conversation, Kefla and Cree dive into the surprising ways modern dating has evolved—and not always for the better.

We kick things off with hilarious everyday moments, from classroom "silent but violent" situations to Labor Day family gatherings that remind us what matters most. When discussion turns to a v...

Parenting doesn't come with a manual, but sometimes the most valuable lessons emerge through experience. In this heartfelt conversation, we dive deep into what might be our greatest parenting revelation: learning to step back and allow our children to forge their own paths while providing a safety net rather than a roadmap.

We explore the concept of "empathy with expectations" – acknowledging the challenges ...

Dating your spouse shouldn't end after marriage - it should evolve into an intentional practice that keeps connection alive through every life stage. Join us as we peel back the curtain on our favorite date nights from over two decades together, revealing how these experiences have nurtured our relationship through parenthood, career changes, and life's unpredictable moments.

From the breathtaking vineyard picnic...

Have you ever wondered how some couples make it look so easy? In this heartwarming episode, we pull back the curtain on our own love story that began 22 years ago at Edison Blair Elementary School in Dallas, Texas. What started as a professional relationship between two educators—Kefla as the PE teacher and Cree teaching third grade—evolved into something neither of us expected, especially since one of us was engaged to someone els...

After 17 years away, we returned to Los Angeles for the Road Rules 30th anniversary celebration, bringing our 21-year-old twin sons to see where their story began. The journey was filled with unexpected moments from the start—narrowly avoiding staying at an Airbnb in a building under police surveillance thanks to our LA connections, and experiencing the shocking reality of California traffic (three hours to drive 60 miles!).

Picture this: a luxury treehouse resort nestled in the jungle, mosquitoes with a personal vendetta, and a raccoon named Ricky who won't take "YAHHH" for an answer. Welcome to our unforgettable family adventure celebrating our twin boys' 21st birthday in Tulum, Mexico!

What began as a carefully planned celebration quickly transformed into a series of hilarious mishaps and unexpected delights. The mosquitoes might ...

Today we dive into our topic discussion about "For Better or For Worse" where we talk about how much are your allowed to change in a relationship before it becomes an issue with your significant other. Change is inevitable and not all change is good. So, what do you do about it? What are you willing to put up with? What are you will to do to make it work? 

We also talk about the life changes pregnancy can bring into a rela...

The Refreshingly Normal Podcast

Welcome to The Refreshingly Normal Podcast, where real life meets real laughs. We are Kēfla and Lucrecia, a married couple of 22 years, long-time educators, and now stepping into the world of mental health counseling. Think of us as your favorite Unc and Auntie of the podcast world, keeping it honest, heartfelt, and hilariously human.

We’re also proud parents of twin young men who just turned 21 and ar...