Future People is a bold, future-focused podcast hosted by Dan Moussa, founder of Thirdway Advisory and one of Australia’s most connected talent advisors in real estate development, critical infrastructure, and sustainability. Building on the success of The ESG & Sustainability Podcast—which peaked at #15 on Apple’s Business Charts—Future People widens the lens to explore the stories and strategies of those shaping what’s next. Each episode features unfiltered conversations with leaders who are rethinking value, legacy, and leadership in a world being rebuilt—from cities and capital to climate and culture. Whether you’re an industry leader, a future thinker, or simply curious about the people steering tomorrow’s change, Future People offers rare insights into the minds of those driving progress across business and society. 🎧 Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. 💬 Connect with us on [social handles]. Insta - Thirdway_Advisory LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/thirdway-advisory-pty-ltd/ Youtube - @ThirdwayAdvisory 🌐 Learn more at www.thirdwayadvisory.com.au. Produced by The Podcast Boss
Sascha Kurz spent 25 years in civil engineering before she backed herself enough to start Infrastructure Project Solutions with no plan, no funding, and no guarantees.
In this episode, Sacha talks about what it actually cost to build IPS from nothing - the cash flow scares, the weight of 30 families depending on her decisions, and the moment she realised she was heading for burnout. She talks about leaving two companies because she...
From $3K in the Bank to $20M Revenue: Adam Hall on Growing a Trades Business Without Losing Yourself
Adam Hall started AH Fencing with his best mate, $3,000, and zero business knowledge. Seven years later, the company turns over $20 million with 55 staff across Brisbane and Melbourne, growing at 50% year on year, and expanding into Sydney.
But this conversation is not really about fencing. It is about what happens when a young tradie realises that the biggest constraint on his business is himself.
Adam talks openly about losing mo...
What happens when relentless high performance goes unchecked?
In this powerful episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Kent Bray to unpack the hidden cost of elite sport, City trading floors, and the constant pressure to win.
Kent’s journey is extraordinary. From elite rugby in Australia and the UK, to the intensity of the London trading floor at Citibank, his drive for excellence pushed him to the very top. But it also pushed...
Paul Doherty is the Founder and Managing Director of PD Project Delivery, a Brisbane-based civil engineering and project management business now running roughly 20 projects across Australia with a team of around 50 people.
In this conversation, Paul goes past the highlight reel and talks about what scaling actually demands. The identity shift from engineer on site to leader of a business. The discomfort of delegation when your name...
Ben Allen is the CEO of Pinnacle Training, a business that helps more than 120,000 Australians every year go home safe, skilled, and confident.
In this conversation, Ben breaks down the leadership shift that took him from early sales roles into the CEO seat, and the moment he realised results were not enough if he was not taking people with him. We talk about self-awareness as a competitive advantage, why journaling and reflection ...
Family-owned businesses face a unique challenge as they grow. The legacy, the relationships and the history are strengths, but they also make senior hiring more complex than most leaders admit.
In this powerful episode of Future People, Dan sits down with leadership adviser Byron Rienstra, who has spent more than 25 years working alongside CEOs, boards and founders across Asia and Australia. Together they dive into the uncomfortable, essential questions most leadership books avoid: the difference between management and leadership, why high IQ is often overrated, and why so many “successful” leaders quietly avoid the truth...
In this episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Tamara Somers, the global head of Sustainability & Impact at Xero - one of the most influential roles shaping how millions of small businesses navigate sustainability, compliance, and climate action.
Fresh off a whirlwind trip to the UK, Tamara dives into the realities of doing sustainability work at scale: the trade-offs, the pragmatism, and why progress matters more than pe...
Every organisation has an employer brand - whether they realise it or not. But how many actually own it, live it, and use it to attract the right people?
In this episode of Future People, Dan sits down with Mark Puncher, Founder & CEO of Employer Branding Australia, to unpack what employer branding really means beyond glossy campaigns and polished job ads.
Mark brings more than two decades of experience helping organisations te...
Dan sits down with former professional rugby coach and leadership advisor Neil Tunnah to explore what it really takes to build teams that perform at the highest level. From the hidden dangers of “performance restriction” to the overlooked role of culture carriers, Neil shares hard-won lessons from sport and business. His framework of Connection, Clarity, and Consistency offers leaders a practical path to creating environments where...
Andrew Chapman, CEO of the Queensland Major Contractors Association, joins Dan to unpack how Brisbane 2032 can leave a real legacy beyond stadiums — with transport-first planning, collaborative procurement, and modern methods of construction. From “think slow, act fast” delivery to modular health and housing, Andrew maps the priorities, the pitfalls, and the leadership mindset Queensland needs to turn a record pipeline into long-te...
Dan sits down with seasoned development leader Debbie McNamara to unpack what really delivers complex projects: people, clarity and long-term partnership. From UK PPP lessons to Australian health infrastructure, they explore program-over-project thinking, housing as a system (not a silo), and why culture and relationships outperform contracts when curveballs hit. Debbie also maps the skills future leaders need - adaptability, value...
In this debut episode of Future People, Dan Moussa sits down with Marrin Boyd-Andrews, founder of ProPrompt, to unpack the seismic impact of AI on talent and work. From prompt engineering and human-in-the-loop systems to the rise of personal AI “agents,” Marrin explains why adaptability is the new superpower — and how leaders, recruiters, and job seekers can stay ahead in a world where AI is the great leveler.
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