Between Two Cones
Traffic cones mark work zones, but they also mark the space where real conversations happen. Hosted by Trish Clarke and Amanda Holland, Between Two Cones is where transportation meets leadership, snacks, and the occasional weird question. From candid stories to surprising wisdom, our guests bring the human side of infrastructure, public service, and the roads we travel every day. Snack-fueled. Cone-approved. Sometimes serious, sometimes silly — always real.
Episodes
Former transportation executive Marc Luiken joins Mandy and Trish to share his battle-tested strategy for turning "work obligations" into high-performance culture zones. If you’re tired of meetings that feel like a waste of time, this episode is your manual for change.
In this episode, we break down:
The "Rank-Free" Zone: Why the best ideas happen when titles are left at the door.
ELMO to the Rescue: How to use...
TL;DR - Leadership is not just strategy and structure. It is showing up when life hits hard. Kelly Hutchinson shares what happens when public service becomes deeply personal, and why the most important leadership moments often happen off the org chart.In this episode, Kelly Hutchinson joins us to talk about what really happens when leadership stops being theoretical and starts getting personal.We explore the moments that don’t make...
TL;DR: If you’re navigating constant change, supporting others through it, and still expected to keep things moving, this episode is for you.
This conversation offers a grounded take on leadership, resilience, and purpose in the space where real decisions get made.
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Most leadership doesn’t happen in big moments or bold declarations. It happens between strategy and delivery, between plans and pavement, where the pressure is stead...
This quick trailer gives you a taste of what’s coming on Between Two Cones. Hosted by Trish and Amanda, the show dives into the people, ideas, and behind-the-scenes stories shaping transportation. Hit follow so you don’t miss our next episode!
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