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April 11, 2025 • 160 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Salsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sewn Salisbury to usc True longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Dan Matthews. This is the Sewn Salisbury Show. It's City
Connect weekend.

Speaker 5 (00:24):
Over at dyke In Park, Rockets in La taking on
the Lakers and Justin Rose a seven under lead at
the Masters, and they're gonna get going here a little
bit over at Augusta National Seawan, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
What's happening man? What are you doing?

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Did we see that coming? Did we see Justin Rose
with the lead? I mean, you know it was not
only that. Let me make your things happened? So I said,
how you doing? So I didn't hear you? Mom My
head said, now is working? Yeah, here we are. Now
we're on the same page. Justin Rose? Did we see
that coming?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know what's strange. I was sitting at home yesterday
and I, you know, picked our guys and on another show,
I picked my guys in both times when you and
I were picking our guys for this the one, there's
a couple of names that kept creeping up because I know,
I know he's in his forties and I know he's
a veteran, but he always plays pretty damn well there,

(01:16):
and Justin Rose was one of those guys that if
we extended it to ten, I would have picked him.
So I'm not surprised. I'm really not. Now does he
with is he? He even said yesterday goes I feel
like I've played well enough here to have won a
Green jacket in the past, but he hasn't. So I
love him, man. I think he's a solid good players.
He's long enough to obviously take advantage of that course,

(01:38):
but he's also good enough putter. And yeah, and I
like the fact that he's a bit cagy, you know,
in his mid forties. Have seen this a bunch of times.
I remember when he came up and the Faldos of
the world were talking about Justin Rose. I remember it,
and he was like a teenager. And then when he
came on, we're like he was you know, he was
like Europe, Europe's and you know, was he's great. He's

(02:02):
a brit He's great Britain. R He's he a London guy. Yeah,
he's a great Britain right, yeah, English. So he when
he came up, they were talking about him there, like
they were telling the Foulos of the world, we're talking
about him. They're like they talk about Tiger here, not
quite with the same fanfare, but he was their guy,
right that, the hopes of winning many majors, And I'm
not shocked at all. It's four days you got to compete, right,

(02:24):
I mean, the long and moving day on Saturday and
all the stuff that goes with it. But it doesn't
surprise me because he putted well yesterday. The putters are
going to hang around, and then the question is, you know,
can he withstand it and how's the weather going to
hold up? But he's seen enough great big time golf
and Ryder Cup golf and majors to to be mentally
and emotionally tough enough to handle. So yeah, he was
one of my like on the periphery guys. If you

(02:46):
were going to take like a flyer him, but I'm
not sure it's a big flyer because a guy can
play so and while length matters, but you can hit
as far as you want. If you can't hit a
close and can't putt in this tournament, you're really you're
gonna hang around, but you're not gonna win it. So yeah,
I think it's pretty awesome to see what he's doing.
And I think he's confident, and I also think he's
gotten to the point in his career where you know,

(03:09):
there's this there's this strange thing about I think in
any career, how as you get to a point where
there's a little more security, whether it's financially or peace
of mind, you know, you have kids and all that stuff,
to where your focus is still on your job because
it's your career. But you've done enough, made enough, and
earned enough, and now that the priorities shift. That doesn't

(03:31):
mean you don't work, but you know that grind when
you're when everything is just all or nothing, when in
your career and you're like, man, you know what, you
have a kid. It's like, Okay, my kid doesn't care
at two years old whether I win this thing or not.
So you kind of grip the club a little softer.
And I applied to all sports. I think it's true.
The kid, the guy they did a feature on yesterday,

(03:52):
the kid from He's a he is he from not Mexico,
is he from Puerto Rico. And he was down like
three hundred thousand dollars in debt. He and his wife.
I'm gonna go through the names, and I can't remember
his last name. But I watched the tournament he was

(04:12):
in and that he won last year. It's like two
tournaments away. He's about to be lose his tour card.
His wife and him have a baby, a baby, and
he is two tournaments away from losing his card. He's
deeply in debt because you travel around and if you
don't make the cut, you don't get paid. And this
guy's about to lose everything. And so he's coming down

(04:33):
to stretch. He's got to finish second in one of
the final two tournaments to keep his tour card, and
he's got no money to have a baby. He has
a baby, has to fly to Bermuda. I think it
was from where he was in Puerto Rico. It's like
it was like what they say, twenty two hours of
trial or whatever. Maybe I'm losing my mind, but it
was an extended amount of travel to make it there

(04:55):
for the tee off the next morning. And he said
to himself, he goes out there and shoots like in
the sixty two or sixty three. And when they interviewed
him after the round, he said, listen, it's to the
point where I don't care because I got a kid
at home. He didn't mean he didn't care about golf,
but it took a lot of pressure off. The guy
goes and wins the tournament and he had had no rest,

(05:15):
was there for his baby's birth, and was able to
get on a plane and make it to the tournament
and gets his tour card for two years, and he
got an invite to Augusta and he's playing now. And
then yesterday he was at even par, like twelve holes
in and I'm gonna get his name. And I watched
the whole feature. I'm like, I remember them talking about
this guy, but in the same thing, and I'm not
compared it to Justin Rose. But there's that feeling in

(05:36):
all walks life that Okay, I don't have to worry
about that anymore. I get to play golf now. I
got my tour card. But when he went and played,
it was almost as if I got my kid at
home and my wife. I got my family. The rest
is gravy. If I lose a job, I'll go get
another job, and I'll be damned. The guy goes out
there and with stands it, and he saw his emotion.
I saw it, and I was like, I was moved

(05:57):
by it thinking man he was. He may not have
made the tour again because having to qualify for the
tour is hard, you know the tour as you know,
Dan the fan, you know your your your brother's a golfer.
Play We all do to trying to make it. You
could shoot sixty eight and be left out, you know
what I'm saying, And you've got to go through that
whole grind again and to go there and just play free,

(06:17):
like who cares, it's my I got my kid at home.
My kid doesn't care if I shoot make birdies here. Well,
you've still got to earn a livit. And he relaxed
and went and won the tournament after getting off a
plane and flying for hours and being exhausted and shoots
low sixties. It goes a wiz damn thing. So I
think in the Justin Rose saying he's a little more mature.
So the pressure is a twenty two year old is

(06:38):
not the same as forty five because the guy financially
doesn't need a dime. Now, it's just winning tournaments and
hoisting you know, the the iron or the you know,
the shiny object that you get to go with it,
and the money doesn't hurt, but I think the pressure off.
So Kenny withstand this. Who knows, but you saw the
leaderboard filled with with the top notch players at the top,
no doubt. And McElroy again when he had a three

(07:02):
hole stretch where what bogey bogey bogie after he's playing
out of his mind. There's something about Augusta that the
guy just can't overcome. Yet it's still the first round ended,
so he's on round two, but it is weird what
it does to him.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah, he's gonna go off this morning, and Justin Rose
is also going to be part of the morning group.
You know how it goes. First two days, you're in
the afternoon, you're in the morning, vice versa, all those
different types of things. But what you're talking about too
with Justin Rose kind of reminds me of remember last
spring training everybody got on Anthony Rendon where he said
basically the same thing you're saying about. Look, you know,
I don't love baseball like I used to because it's

(07:37):
not my top priority. I still love doing this, but
to your point, I mean, it's you know, I've got
a family now, like I'm older, all of these different
types of things that I think through that experience and
just perspective, you kind of just understand like there's a
place for It's like it's still important to me.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, but it's not everything that I have, Dan, it's
a great point. I'll give you a little story about
what I was playing. I remember we were getting ready
to play. It might have been the Packers. I can't
remember who it was. That's how that that's but it
was a game when you know, you know how you

(08:15):
compete and you think, man, I feel like I've earned
the starting job, but I still love my cot not
not bitter, but you got to a point where it
was going on, I think, man, I should be playing. Yeah,
you're grooting on your quarterback, but in your soul. I
think we all feel like that. But we also know
when we've earned it or when we have it, or
at least we thought we have right right. And I
can remember I was in probably the middle of my career,

(08:36):
and I tell you know what, and so it was
one of those days I woke up, we had a game.
It was a night game, it was national television game,
and I honestly, early in a game it might have
been the did the quarterback get hurt? I can't remember
who it was, but got banged up, and I can
remember warming up on the side and I saying, you
know what, I don't really care about the result of
this game. Not didn't care if we won, but the

(08:57):
freedom of like I felt like I should have been playing.
I'm going to go in there and let it rip.
This isn't going to be playing not to lose. It's
gonna be playing to win. I don't care. I mean,
I'm gonna do everything right, meaning built into your mind,
you know, like when you're when you're sick and you
go play, you don't put pressure on yourself and you
end up playing better, Like Jordan when he had the flu.
It's like you're just trying to get through the like

(09:18):
being sick or having the flu, so you're not really
focused on every single grind and you just kind of
free it up and just go play. Right. Like we
were talking about these guys, you have a kid. I mean,
the kid's more important than whether I make Birdie on
this whole or not. Now I gotta support him, but
we'll get through it. And I was remember warming up
on the side, and it's vivid as I'm sitting here
today that That's what's crazy. I was so locked into that.

(09:40):
I think it was Green Bay, but I honestly I
can't remember. And that's how locked in I was to
that is like, you know what you put me in.
I said, I'm gonna let it rip. Man, this isn't
one of those will I'm trying to win a job
and the rest of it, and was the MVP of
the game. But it was one of those that it
was just so there wasn't one ounce of me then
around the field that felt like I was going to
fail that day, or that I was concerned about the

(10:01):
home crowd if you weren't playing well, and I felt,
I don't know, does this sound cheesy? Like complete a piece?
There was no clutter in my mind right, and played
a great game and we end up winning, and I'm like,
you know, if you could do that every day, right,
and then you get back to the daily grind. But
it was one of those my frustration for not starting,
even though I'm not I wasn't outlandish about I'm gonna

(10:21):
support the guys because I'm a good teammate, but we
all want to compete, and you felt like, man, am
I going to get this chance? And then it reared
its head, but I always stayed ready because when that happens,
I sure as hell didn't want to blow it right,
And so you put up a good game and we win,
and I'm like, now that is the way you need
to be all the time. Wherever we can find that,
I don't know how easy it is to find that,

(10:42):
because it's fleeting. It's hard to find where it's like,
I don't care about the result. I'm going to enjoy
the hell out of it. Easier said than done. But
that day it was like, what I got to lose
if I don't play well, I'm going to go back
to be in the backup. If I play well. It
puts pressure on the coaches to know that you can
trust me that I'm going to win games for you,
and I felt that day. But it's hard to keep
that type of momentum in your mind and the ones

(11:05):
that do where you study and you prepare, but really
we always say, oh, it's a kid's game, go play
it and have fun. It's hard to when you get
your ass kids to not play well, it's hard to
have fun. But to be able to lock in on that,
you know, when you go golf, if you don't care
about the result, you probably end up playing better. And
when you're with your buddies, we all do have a beer,
have a laugh. Oh man, you shot seventy five today. Yeah. Man,

(11:25):
I didn't even pay attention to it. It's almost as
if while you care, you've got to convince yourself that
it's not the end of the world, no matter what happens,
good or bad. And that's a tough place to get to,
I would imagine in any job, but I know in sports.
The best games of my life were prepared, passionate, but

(11:46):
it didn't eat me alive. Preparation and I enjoyed the
I guess the journey part of it, the preparation and
the chess match. When it got to the game, the
game became easier. It's when you're grinding so hard you
can grind without letting your mental psyche take over, right, sure,
And what it was it if you're prepared, there's nothing
to fear, and so I was. But that game was
that game. It wasn't physical because I always know I

(12:08):
can make a throw. It was the mental part of
I had zero clutter. And it's hard in pro sports
or in any sport to clear clutter out of your
mind completely. And I think guys that can where there's
something else bigger, the rest is gravy, and I think
that a guy like Justin Rose are people that are
in this situation. Listen, how many more majors is Justin
Rose going to compete in, I mean, really have a

(12:30):
chance to win. He's getting closer to fifty. It's tough.
I mean, when you hit forty five. Now, listen, forty
five is about twenty five with the way these guys
hit it on tour, now, right, that's true, but so
it feels like a forty five year is really your
thirty three playing on the PGA Tour. They're that good.
But still there's not many guys that at fifty two
or winning majors on the PGA Tour. Okay, matter of fact,

(12:50):
this never happened. So point is, if Rosie's in the
middle of his four in mid forties, he realizes, also, hey, man,
I don't know how many more times I got so
let I've been in this twenty twenty five years. What
the hell's what's the big deal? And so let it go,
And maybe that's just the time you actually do win
your major I don't think Nicholas had forty six expected

(13:10):
to win, did you.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
I don't think so either. I mean, maybe, let me
take that back. He and his mind did right.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Nobody else expected because he wouldn't have won if he
didn't think he was gonna win. He probably wouldn't have
competed if he didn't think he was gonna win.

Speaker 6 (13:22):
Go.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, so he realized they said one more thing, and
jim Nant said this yesterday. Jack Nicholas's first round as
it was in the fifties was the fifties or sixties
as an amateur, and as an amateur at Augusta he
hit it in the water as an amateur on the
twelfth hole, and do you realize from that day on

(13:44):
every tournament he's ever played in there, every round of
golf he's ever played in there after the one time
he hit it in the in the water at twelve,
the little pond in front of the green, he never
hit it in the water again. Interesting hit it in
the one when when jim Nant said he yes, I'm
like what he he hit it in the water one
time as an amateur playing at Augusta, and at no

(14:04):
time after that did he ever hit it in the
water at number twelve. In his entire career, as we
still sit here, he's never hit it in the water.
Can you imagine playing that many rounds like you know,
you just missing the winds blowing you to hit it
short never So talk about a guy who learned his
lesson as an amateur and applied it as a pro
where he doesn't hit in the water. Frigging impressive. And
I still this day think, gracious, those guys are fighting

(14:27):
not to hit it in the water twice when you're
sitting on twelve with all the stress that's there as
an amateur and all this professional care which Jack played
in that thing forty some times or whatever it was
not one time did he hit in the water?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Crazy? Yeah, that's unreal great event man. So while the
Golden Barrel was one of the best, no doubt about it.
So well, I will we've in some master's discussion as
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board seven one three, two, one two, five, seven ninety,
also get into some astros conversation because tonight it is early.
But is this a huge one for Renel Blanco. We'll
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Speaker 7 (15:01):
Who's who's shown?

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Mister yseternal judge? Who sits on high? Here's the final
say on all disputes.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Back to this Sean Salisbury show on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Round two about to get teed off over there in AUGUSTA.
We'll get into the Astros conversation here in just a second, Sean,
But seven one, three, two, two, five seven NINEY, let's
get it started on the phone lines this morning.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Billy, what's up? Good morning, Billy, how you doing?

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Hey, good morning guys. Uh, I'm trying to get back
into again in the game of golf. I played for
a long time when I was younger. Uh, I mean
twenty five plus years ago. But uh, when I started
was really watching and paying a lot of attention to golf.
It was because I was a Tiger Woods fan, not
a golf fan. And my golf game is so bad
that people tell me that the problem with my game

(15:50):
is I'm standing too close to.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
The ball after I hit it.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
But what my question is, and I'm gonna get off
and listen, but what makes a great a difference between
a scratch golfer and Roy McElroy or Justin Rose or
Tiger Woods. What makes those guys so great? And is
it just God reached down and touched them or is
there something else that I'm missing because I don't understand

(16:16):
enough about the sports. You know what the difference is
between a top, top of the line pro golfer and
a scratch golfer. And I'd just like to get your
inform information on that.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Thanks, guys, appreciate it, Jilly, Well, Dan, I'm sure you have.
I've played with a bunch of guys in my life
that are amateurs that and I've played with some pro
PGA Tour players as well. Is one is that that? Uh?
I sure wish that we could get our headset, our
little thing we plug into normal around it. I'm gonna

(16:48):
I'm gonna tear the studio down and just start built
rebuilding my damn self. And I don't know, dog, dog,
you know what about uh technology? Don't look at me.
I can't help you. I can. I can tear it
down and start to build it. When it gets the
technology bar I've turned it over to somebody else, but
good gracious, the different and playing with like amateurs that
are really good guys that are a two handicap er,

(17:10):
a scratch golfer that can go out and shoot seventy four.
You know, played with them, and it's the difference, I
mean between them and me, who maybe a ten handicap
can shoot eighty and shoot ninety five and then come
back and shoot eighty and seventy nine and then shoot
ninety again. Where there and when they shoot eighty, it's
like a rough day on them. I'm talking about the

(17:30):
amateur buddy that's a two handicap scratch golfer, So billy,
I get it from tee to green in truth, I
mean I got buddies that can bust it like a prodest.
They can hit it three ten, three or five. I
mean buddies that can smoke it the kick. But there's
a big difference in doing it when we're playing and
then when there's a big crowd around and doing it

(17:51):
consistently regularly. But for me, what I've seen, first of all,
there's a mental toughness that goes with these guys. I mean,
imagine doing your job with somebody three feet away from
you and staring in at you when you're trying to
hit a ball two twenty around a tree and hit
a draw, a hard draw to get it to a
green because you're down a stroke and it's a par

(18:12):
five and you snap pooked your drive, I mean, and
then there's a person staring. It's like your job's under
the microscope all the time by a bunch of people
and on TV. Think how many times they've done that
when people you're at the golf course and the next
group has come up behind you and you're like, okay, man,
I got to get it, or your buddies are behind
you and you're like, oh, you want to make sure
you stripe it, so it's good. So I play with

(18:33):
those guys and I'm thinking they what they do is
they keep it in play. Their misses are playable. I'm
talking about just the amateur. When I'm playing on my
buddy who's a scratch golfer, and I'm not is it
Their misses are playable. And then the shot that you're
trying to hit that even a pro wouldn't hit the
guy who's a scratch golfer, for the for the for

(18:55):
the ten handicapper, the scratch golfer will put it in play,
hit it up there and either make par, make bogie
and move to the next hole while you're trying to
make some miracle eagle. Their course management, their mental approach,
and they keep their misses playable. That's one the difference
between a scratch golfer and a pro for me, and
now most of them will probably tell you that's one

(19:16):
hundred and twenty five yards. In most of the time,
scratch golfers combut and you'll go play. I've played golf
with the guy who wouldn't be on the top thousand
people on tour, who will shoot seventy two and has
no shot. I'm talking about zero shot to beat a
PGA Tour pro. It's like telling me that you know
Tennessee or Alabama can beat the worst team in the NFL.

(19:37):
They get their ass destroyed. It's the same thing here.
You're like, this guy's a scratch golfer. Like when Scheffler said,
what when they asked him what he did on his
private time, you know, golf for fun? He goes, oh,
I love to go play with my buddies. I mean,
you know, he's not very good if my buddies aren't
very good, like a ten handicap, Like when he said that,
It's like, dude, most of us will take a ten
handicap and then you're five strokes away, meaning most of

(19:59):
it on the green or around the green to get
to where you're shooting seventy four to seventy five, and
you're almost a scratch guy. So a ten handicap to
Scotty Scheffler, who's a plus seven or eight or whatever
he is, it's like a ten handicap. He's giving away
fifty strokes to the guy. The guy beats me, So
that's their perspective a ten handicap, But from tee to green,
I've played with guy hell, I've played with guys that

(20:21):
when you're hitting it well that I can hit it
tee to green with them. But inside one hundred and
twenty five yards they don't miss. The pros don't miss.
And then the difference between Rory McElroy or Scotty Scheffler
and the one hundred and eightieth guy on tour, it's
not tee to green. Some may be ten yards or
twenty yards longer. Some may be five yards shorter or
have to hit a certain club into a green. Somebody's

(20:43):
hitting five iron and you're hitting and they're hitting seven
iron because they're longer. But it's their ability to hit
it close inside one hundred and twenty five yards, and
Mike Putts the guy. That's why you'll see the long
drive guy who can hit it three eighty and smoke it.
Why is that guy on tour because he played with
those guys inside one hundred and twenty five yards. They're
no better than you and me, Dan the long drive content.

(21:04):
You know what I'm saying. They can't. They can hit
it forever, it's just they don't know where it's going.
The difference that I've seen, and it may be different
for others, is from me to a scratch golfer, is
that their missus are playable. From the scratch golfer to
the PGA tour guy who's on tour that's a good
top twenty five, one hundred and twenty five on the
money list, is they manage it better than the scratch golfer,

(21:25):
and they're better under pressure. From the good player to
the Scotti Scheffler, their nerves are better. They don't miss
pressure putts, and inside one hundred and twenty five yards,
while you're just trying to hit the green, they're putting
it to three feet and not missing.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
I mean it's it's just limiting mistakes. That's that's what
these guys do so well. And I'm sure you've probably.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Heard and they don't and they don't dan real quick,
they don't, they don't continue. They make one mistake. Rarely
do they hit two and three bad shots in a row.
I'm talking about where it's like, what do you do?
I mean, it happens to them, but they're able to
scram around and find a way say okay, dude, just
take your bogie and move forward and not let it
bug you. The great ones are where us Mere mortals

(22:05):
are like, damn, how did the three put from twelve feet? Right?
It happens to all of them, but rare they just overcut.
You're right, and they know their weakness so they stay
out of it, right they know. I mean they when
they say, I'm always funny when you're playing with a
caddy who's caddied for pros. You're staying at the T
box and the guy says, you know you're gonna want
to draw it around the tree, hit it, hit it
right there, and I'm like, dude, really, if I could

(22:26):
hit it right there, I would need you, okay, I know,
And that's what's amazing. You sit there and listen to
a caddy talk to those pros. It's like, yeah, man,
it's it's five paces off the back the wind, so
it's gonna it's it's a buck eighty seven, buck seventy five,
a buck seventy five to carry, but a buck eighty
seven to the flagstick. Start it right out over that bunker.
And if you'll hit it to see that guy stand

(22:49):
you hear them, See the guys standing underneath the CBS
Sports sign up by the s Yeah, I see him.
If you hit it there and the club, what do
you think about the club? Oh, it's perfect. This is
there's no wind boom, and they hit it there. They
hit it there, and then you're you're fascinating.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Every once in a while we'll do it too. I
say I want to hit it there, and all of
a sudden you hit it there. You're like, so this
is what it feels like. But I think it's a
great question by Billy. The difference is those guys know
how to get up and down. Always from one hundred
and twenty five. Where I waste shots around, I'll always
ten shots around the green. That prevents me from even
you know, thinking about shooting seventy five on a regular basis.

(23:28):
But those guys, and go watch them hit. They can
they they can, they can. They can hit one hundred
and fifty yards of the broomstick I watched was a
Billy Horsechel's flip his club over a couple of weeks ago,
hit it like one hundred and eighty yards and it
rolls up on the green and he makes and he
makes a putt, and I'm like, come on, man, but
they're just. But it's the same thing as a how
does a baseball player? You think? How does he? How

(23:48):
did Tony Quinn do this? They're just they're just and
and Billy the pig is yes. When they were born,
the Good Lord said, this guy's gonna have a little
different hand eye coordination. And then they go to work
at it. And what sport do you know where people
are going to work at it? Where a twelve year
old is a thousand times better swing than you got,
than I got, than any of us got. And the
key is, don't over coach them, get out of their

(24:09):
friggin way and let them go swing because it's natural
for them. It's kind of unnatural for us that we're
late starters and you got to try to make it natural.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Yeah, it's those guys and ladies that just have that
smooth swing that you're just like, damn you, man, like
damn you.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Right in the tempo and you're like, how does a
ten year old yeah swing with that nice big arc
and finish and extension. It's like and then you sit
there and say, well, they watch and they emulate, and
then some smart parent or smart coach says, no, you
just keep you keep hitting it. Okay, we'll worry about
around the greens and where to place the ball and

(24:42):
where it is in your stance and how to hit
a flop shot, but when it comes to your swing,
it's like when I see a kid that I trained
that's got phenomenal release and the ball comes out and
it's we got other things we can fix, but one
thing I'm not going to coach you on is how
to get the ball up and out quickly, because quite frankly,
I'll screw that up because all comes out just fine
because you watched Marino do it. Do that. We'll fix

(25:04):
the rest of stuff. Same with golf. I do I
marveled at great players that can work it the way
they want. Even the amateurs have shoot seventy five and
you say, how's that guy not on tour? Well, one
hundred and twenty five yards. They just don't quite do
with McElroy and Scheffler and well Justin Rose did yesterday,
especially on the harder courses. It's tough to do. Yeah,
they don't get debrained, you know.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
You know the old saying, you know somebody who's who's
thinking what the wrong head there?

Speaker 6 (25:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yes, that's that's what they don't do that, I'm telling you.
For a guy who preaches, you know, the mental toughness,
and the hardest thing for me to do on the
golf course is to get over a bad shot. The
rear view mirror exists too much in my game as
opposed to the windshield. And I'm getting better, but you know,
you think, because you played professional sports, so you're going
to go out there and it's still the hardest sport

(25:51):
I've ever played. And the ball doesn't move, and nobody's
hitting you, and nobody gets to talk while you're playing,
and it's still the tough sport I've ever played. Not
you know, Baseball's a tough thing to do. Quarterback was
the toughest position to play, but to master, and I
don't think you ever do That's why those guys do it.
I don't think you ever get to a point where
you're like, I've got this whipped. You may be confident enough,

(26:11):
but it's maddening, it really is. But I sure marvel
at how good they are, no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
It's fun to watch them, and they're gonna get going
here in just a little bit from a gusta. Let's
get into some astros coming up, because Renel Blanco last
time out not so good. This time out hopefully a
little bit better. We'll discuss that here Sean Salisbury Show.

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Speaker 5 (27:26):
And first two outings for Renel not been great. One
in two thirds his last time out, and also went
five innings against the Giants his first time out this season.
The walks were a little bit of an issue in
that one but one one nine point four five ERA
to start this season.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I mean, is it kind of one of those things.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
You're looking at where last year he had a career
high in innings. I mean they had to finally get
to a point where they're like, we're gonna skip you
for a start because we need you to be fresh
for the postseason, and we don't want you to kind
of hit that proverbial wall with you throwing all these innings.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, well I think that that's that that's part of
the play. He's never had to throw that much in
his life, never had a chance to. I mean, at
least if he's had a chance, it's never. He never
had a season like that either. So while not taking
that away, what do we always got to do get
to sustain greatness? And bet that guy it's it's you're

(28:22):
always wondering what it's gonna be like the next year, right,
And I think that was a question going in love.
Is grind Man alive? Was he? He saved them a
lot last year, so I would imagine he's put pressure.
But remember his best year he's ever had was at
thirty years old, right, Not saying that's old, but it's
it's it's old for us to discover, Hey, ronew Blanco's

(28:43):
a start. It's not in baseball terms, you know, you're
you're now, You're now and you're no longer a middle
aged player. You know what I'm saying. It's weird, but
the old guy, that's exactly right. So the success and
obviously it's you know, a couple starts in, but it
hasn't been the way it was last year. And does
does that mean it's not going to end the way

(29:04):
it is? No, but I would say there's probably some
collateral damage from innings pitched, but that's all part of
being a starter regularly right, to be able to deal
with it and lengthen yourself and do it. I couldn't
pull harder for the guy to do his thing, and
they're gonna need him once again. We're already on the staff,
banged up, rag Getty's unfortunate injury, and now what Gusta's

(29:28):
going to be the starter? He said, didn't? Dan tells
he's gonna be the guy, which we know that that's
his normal thing, to be a starter, and he's been
kicking ass in his role in the bullpen. It's a
guy just the versatility, which we knew going in. And
guess what, you're gonna need probably nine of them at
some point this year throughout nine or ten of them
just are and hope that none of them are serious.

(29:49):
So he hasn't been as sharp as you're used to,
but I'm still too early for me to say, Man,
he's back to being the guy that struggled to be
the guy that he w last year. I think we
let it play out, but it's going to be incumbent
upon him and and his game to get right. If
the listen when you're running him out there is what

(30:09):
the four starter? He was a four starter? Is your
expectations of him? But did the innings add up? And
I think it's a question more than a statement right now.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
And to your point, I mean, it's not like you
have a choice in terms of skipping him right now.
Like if if Dana Brown were to go to Joe
Aspota and say, hey, you know, Renell, let's work on
a few things. Let's skip him for a start, Joe
would look at him like he has a second head
growing out of his head, we would hope. So he'd
be like, are you crazy?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Right? And plus, aren't we a little early? If this
was twelve starts fifteen starts in and say, okay, it's laboring.
He's been going give given five six seven innings a start.
He had an off season, and we know that they
don't kill themselves during spring training. I would I would
think that this is way too pre I'd be a
lot more alarmed if if we said we're resting him

(30:57):
on his third start. We're going to skip a start
because he's tired. That would concern me. Now if you
tell me fifteen starts in that the cumulative effect from
last year's like, Okay, we got six or seven guys
that can do it. Let's skip him a start, give him,
just let him get his legs back under him. I
get it. But right now, not only message wise, but
for him, and I would imagine if you're him, you're saying,

(31:18):
there's no hell, no way, I'm not ready for that.
It could be just as simple as he's had two
you know, starts that were not what he wanted and
has nothing to do with being tired. We could have
this conversation fifteen starts in. I'd be a lot more
concerned of all of a sudden they skipped him, said,
and he's not hurt, he's just tired, tired. Yeah, that

(31:39):
would buy August. I get it. I no offense. I
can't have a whole lot of sympathy for a player.
And I'm not saying he's even saying this, but I
know what you're saying about the innings. I would too.
I'd look like, what is this we got three heads.
You know, we'll going three heads. There's no way three
starts in after two of them that my guy's tired. Yeah. No,
I wouldn't think that's the case. That that's an argument

(32:01):
for you know, second half of the season and a
lot of innings were not there yet, and he could
just as quickly, he could squelch this quickly by going
out and doing his thing, giving you six innings and
doing giving you a hundred Browns performance from you know,
a couple of days ago. And then you'll sit there
and say, Okay, that looks like the Renel Blancle we
saw have a breakout year last year.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
And I know some people are thinking, too, well, Dan,
why are you being so easy on him and so
hard on Taylor Scott. I mean, I think the difference
is with Scott is last year down the stretch we
kind of saw the effect ofness kind of wayne a
little bit with him, and it looks like it's kind
of carried over. So it's like, all right, did we
kind of tap out on what we get out of
this guy? I mean for Renel, I mean, you know

(32:40):
I heard Sparky talking about during spring training.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
He's a winter ball guy. He didn't go. He didn't
go to winter Ball this year because they were like, hey, hey,
like back all your rest, right, yeah, I which makes
you wonder, okay, who you're always wondering who's a one
or two year wonder and who can sustain it? And
I think the questions valid for both. It's valid because
we got to see it again and then we want

(33:03):
to see it again. And I'm sure they are the
trust me when you've been in a situation. Both of
them are in for different reasons in their careers. You
and you know this, but it is true that even
they probably in their mind wonder who am I? Right? What?
Guy am I? Not? Not that they don't think they're good,
but you have to always want like man or this

(33:25):
season if you're a new bloc, or you're like I
put all this time in all the other years, Look
what happens. It happened with Verlin, That's exactly right. Remember
Verlander was like I was crying on the stairs, wondering
do I still got it right? And it happens to
all of them. Stars are no stars. They're just the
ones that they're just not letting you know it because
they don't want to be there's any weakness in there,
but they're in their metal psyche or their game right.

(33:46):
But every single person who's been through it, especially you're
like early in your career or when you've had success
and then you maybe go through a couple where you're struggling.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
You're like, am I am I? Am I good? Am
I as good as I was last year? What do
I got to do? What am I doing different? So
of course they do. The key is you guy to
get out of your own head. Let everybody else question it.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
You go do your thing which will make the comeback
or the second year back to the same way you
had it the year before. So it's tough man, and
early success allows you to get back into Yeah I belong.
But there's no question. No player that I've ever been around,
good or bad, hasn't questioned in their mind, maybe not publicly,
but in their private mind when they're sitting by themselves,

(34:27):
they can damn, am I good enough to do this?
I would imagine guys on tour saying the same thing.
We're talking about golf, like I'm playing with Scheffler. Am
I good enough to hang with this guy? After I
watched the way he goes about his business. I would
imagine most athletes have gone through it in their life.
Who hasn't, So those two are going to have to
fight that and they're very similar, except you know, one

(34:49):
starts and one comes out of the bullpen. Yeah, I mean,
it's kind of the demon. We all have to fight.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
And there's very few guys I think once you get
towards the end that could say, now, you know, I
got about two or three years left, but I've had enough.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's more all out more or less. You're told.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
It's kind of like in the movie Moneyball, you know,
one way or another, Billy, we're told, Yeah, we're told
you can't play the kids game anymore. So most of
the time you got to be dragged off the field.
You're not dragging them, they're dragging you off the field
because you want one more go at it, because it's
the hardest thing is when somebody finally tells you in
your sports career that.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
You're just not good enough to do this like you
did anymore, and you're like, well, what do you mean,
I'm thirty five, I'm not good enough to do this.
And the rare ones are but that and I'm telling
you I almost believe. And I hate to say this,
but at times having to retire because you know, I've
had a twelve fifteen year whatever it is, we're having
to retire because your shoulder can't do it anymore. Sure,
but you can get survive it. But you're not as

(35:47):
good as you were right or as a golfer, maybe
you've lost length, or as a receiver, maybe you're not
as fast, but you can still catch it the hard
And then the easiest one is for somebody to tell
you injury wise, dude, that knee won't let you play anymore. Well,
I feel like I can out of your mood, we
can't pass. You can't pass physical. That's almost easier. Why
because then you then somebody told you didn't have to
come up with that, come to Jesus with yourself saying

(36:09):
I got to admit I can't do this. Like Bernhard Langer,
he's what forty of these or thirty five of these
in a row, and Bernhard Langer has admitted he goes
like I'm hit they're hitting eight irons. I'm hitting, you know,
the rescue clubs into a green as good as he is.
And he wins on this on the Champions Store all
the time. The fact that guy shot what even or

(36:30):
one hundred yesterday is stupid and Freddy, yeah, couples again, Yeah,
stupid couples. What sixty five or whatever it is, And
you're like, okay, they love the golf course. But there
comes a point in time when you're hitting first all
the time and you're one hundred and thirty yards behind McElroy.
There's a perspective that comes with it, but it's still
hard to do to admit that I just can't keep
up anymore. And sometimes it's like, oh man, the knee

(36:51):
won't let you. Then you got the built It excuses
why you had to walk away because the rest of you.
I still feel like I could throw it by age.
But then when you get perspects like Sean, but you're
not to move out of a hula hoop, that they're
not moving any further than that. So it's hard to
come to Jesus, especially in regular sports, not golf where
you can play till you're seventy five. Is as a
player in pitching or baseball or football, you're like, dude,

(37:14):
you're thirty three and you're about over the hill. Now
think about that perspective where that's the only thing you've
done your whole life. It kind of reminds me of that.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
I think it was Tostitos commercial this year that they
had of Emmett and Dan Marino and Randy Moss right
where they're where they're sitting on the couch. They're like, oh,
you know, I could probably still do it. Marinos out there,
he's got the readers looking at the plaything on his
on his wrist.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I tell you what, well, it's a little hyperbolic. It
ain't far off. It's dude, when you look at Jerry
Rice at the end of his career, as good as
he is, and like was a backup in Seattle and
with the Raiders at times like the third or fourth options.
I remember him in Denver. Yeah, you're like Jerry Rice man, Yeah, yeah,
he was in Denver, Raiders and Seattle at the end
of his career. You're like, this is Jerry dude. Yeah,

(37:56):
and think about that, when you're the greatest ever, well
you've done. How hard it is for some of the
I say, the fifth round draft pick right now is
better than you. Yeah, It's like, what so that's hard.
Somebody comes says your Hammy just won't let you go.
Then you could say it, because you can always say
I still had it right even when you know you don't.
Hard to admit man, hard to come to reality with
and come to come to Jesus with it really for sure,

(38:17):
for sure.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
So hopefully the Astros can get back on track and
that's something we actually want.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
To go to be needed again.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
Yeah, massive, and hopefully that starts tonight. And also to
this part of the schedule for the Astros, we'll get
into that here on The Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
The Sean Salisbury Show continues to continue.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Sewn as a matter of fact, a little bit of
a long range tease here coming up in the next
hour when you gotta go, you Gotta go, and we
found that out yesterday and a little bit of a
funny story there, so we'll talk about that. But the Astros, though,
as I mentioned, I mean it is early on in
the season and I tell people all the time, don't
look at the standings until Memorial Day. I mean that's

(38:59):
when I would say the line of demarcation in baseball
of knowing, hey, do we have something here or is
there a lot of work to do, or is this
team in significant trouble is probably Memorial Day. That's that's
almost like what Christmas Day is in the NBA. Like
that seems like that's when the season kind of starts.
After Memorial Day. You look at it and say, all right, hey,

(39:22):
we might have something here or man, could we be
looking at being sellars at the deadline?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
So does that does that give us? That would be
like Memorial Day late in May? So let's see, we're
in April now, seasons started late March. Let's say I'm
just saying, yeah, average about what twenty five games a
month or so, so you got right around there, So
you'd be right around sixty games, which is which is
usually the barometer for most when they say what third

(39:50):
of the season. Yeah, and that that sounds about right.
And we found that out in the COVID season too,
right right. And you know, like when people ask them
that I can in football because the shortened season, when
do you know, Well, obviously people can go on runs
like Cincinnati did after their start. We see it every year,
but you know the identity of a team or the
lack thereof four games in that's a quarter of the season,

(40:14):
and maybe by your fifth game if the idea. If
they don't know their identity, they're in trouble. And if
you know their identity and they execute it, they'll be fine.
But you pretty much know, other than a few aberrations
along the way, who a team is. Five or six
weeks in, you rarely going and say, man, that team
I have zero idea. And then by the time they

(40:35):
may be playing role but you kind of know who
they are. They may get beat, but you know who
they are when it comes to and then they go
on a run and you say, damn. But it's rare
that the guy I have no idea who they are literally,
and then five weeks after that it's like, this is
the greatest team. And if that doesn't happen very often, right,
there is aberrations, like we're saying, guys get hot and

(40:57):
quarterbacks get hot or something change and it goes. But
for the most part, when you know who they are
now win streaks, losing streaks, and in baseball, I think
you have a pretty good idea sixty games in who
they are now. There's the Alex Bregman's of the world
who start slow for forty games usually right, but yeah, well,
unless it's fun way Park. But I think you get

(41:19):
a pretty good idea the at least the identity of
a team, not who's going on a hot streak who isn't.
Because the truth is, like last year was an aberration
for this team twelve and twenty four. We thought, is
this really who they are? And then they go on
that run with a little help from the division that
didn't play well last year, and then boom, they're different.
But they are who we thought they were by the
end of the season, meaning playoff type team and chance

(41:40):
to win the division, which they did. All those things
come into play. So yeah, sixty games is fair. And
that's why I mean, we all judge it game by
game because we're into it. But in truth, if you're
going to judge the overall picture of okay, here's your
report card, we don't judge a kid after one test
right in school, one semester test, Mom, I brought home
a D. But we're pissed or dad with ron a D. Well,

(42:02):
why I didn't study this time? You know, blah blah blah.
All right, well, now you're in the chase game. Now
that D you got to hopefully the teacher is the
one that throws out the worst test, right, the worst score,
and then so you get to a point it's like,
I'm not judging after the first you know, after your
first one midterm or after your first pop quiz. The damn.
Now when the semester ends and you got four of

(42:25):
them and you're making a C minus average and Dad
or mom get the bill home from the university, You're like,
I didn't send you to college to be, you know,
a jag, you know what I'm saying, just a guy.
You're there to do. Okay, now, we got it. Okay, Now,
now we'll judge you at the second semester, Christmas time,
seeing where you are because you don't want me to

(42:45):
to make you pay for school. Right, So it's the
same thing here hard after a twelve games, thirteen games,
and say, hey man, they suck. We can get that idea,
but the full judgment probably starts in now after their
full fresh year they make a one point five. Summer
is gonna be awful hard on the kid because they're
gonna be working their ass off to start paying for
their own party time is over.

Speaker 7 (43:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
I remember a buddy of mine once his son got
like a forty seven on that Testiny goes a German shepherd,
can get this true. You got to put it this way.
You gotta work harder to get a forty seven than
you do a ninety seven. Think about that, you do.
You gotta work harder to get a forty seven on
a test seven. Put a blindfold on and play and
play pin the tail on the donkey, and you have

(43:29):
a chance you'll make forty seven. I always tell guys
like college, you know, they try to, you know, get
fear like class. You miss one class in college, it's
like missing two weeks, where in high school, you miss one,
you make it up the next day. I said, the
truth is, just show up half the battles. Just get
the class, even if you buy us most even if
you're asleep at eight o'clock class in the morning, something's

(43:52):
gonna come through your You're at least there, and now
you've got a chance to survive it. But sitting in
your bed at home and missing it's too e I said,
just show up up after that, take your ass back
to sleep, whatever you want to do, just show up
first of all. But yeah, that forty it's true. He's
exactly right. What do you say, German shepherd Shepherd could
make it forty. Just don't. My My philosophy is my kids.
Oh you did once, just don't do a second time. Yeah,

(44:13):
because man of life. Uh, I'm gonna cut off your
government funding. Yeah that's d mom. Yeah, there you go.
You're gonna get a quick lesson in debt and in reality.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Now it comes for us all all right?

Speaker 5 (44:28):
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Sean Salisbury.

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Speaker 5 (45:18):
I feel like for us golfers out here we can
relate to this story. So Jose Luis Balister, I think
is how you say his name. He's the amateur out
of Arizona State. He was the one out there yesterday
wearing the you know, kind of upside down sun devils,
you know how like you've got those hats now that
have like the arched lettering and it's upside down, and

(45:39):
some people at first.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Had that hat on yet. Yes, it was a smash
at the lift smash right hat. Yeahah, upside down lettering, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right. I was trying to remember Phil's yesterday the
day before. But Ballister yesterday, I mean, he was one
of us. We're on a golf course. You know, maybe
you've had a couple of pops before the round. You
go out there, who knows, maybe you know, you hit
a couple of balls on the ring, maybe roll a

(46:00):
couple of putts. Then you get out there on the
course and you get to a certain point you're like, man,
well that that little not even halfway house isn't there?
So I can't duck in there and you know, do
my business. So let me find a tree or two
to run over to. Well, he had missed where the
bathrooms were to the left of the tea box on thirteen,

(46:22):
and he decided the tributary right there at Ray's Creek
on thirteen while Justin Rose was still finishing up on twelve.
That's where he decided to go to the bathroom, and
he thought that he had privacy there, but then he
quickly realized, oh no, there's patrons and they started to
give him a round of applause, like, hey, all right,

(46:42):
good job buddy, you know, yeah, worked for you. But
I mean that's one of those things as well. When
you're on the course, because we all do it. You know,
you get to a hole that's got some woods on
it and you're like, okay, this this is a good spot. Right,
I've been caught before. Oh yeah, and you know what,
oh well yeah, sometimes you're willing to get you because
it's like I can't swing the club feeling like this right,

(47:04):
it's the worst. And you know what, it makes for
a good story, harmless but funny with hey, clave, yeah
got him, you know what I'm saying. So love it,
actually love it. It's one of those tooth too.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
The other part of this is you know that Augusta
doesn't really have much of a sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
It's kind of like when that's the biggest problem. Yeah,
the fans of the Patriots laugh and it's like, do
the big guys do the big guys the stuff you
guys at Augusta like, we don't do that. Oh, I
know you can't. You can't pee on an azalea. Dude,
you can't do that. Don't you always love that we
don't do that here? Don't you like? Oh, yeah, do
what I had to pee?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Man?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Wouldn't you if you had? We're fortunate have to get
invited to play there? Like with you know, so you
knew a member, right and you got to play. Wouldn't
you have to pee on the course just to say
you do? Honestly, I think i'd have you know, you're
cadd You're going to say, listen, man, I can't make
it to the on like and it have to be
on twelve or thirteen twelve or thirteen eleven twelve or
thirteen or somewhere where you like, you go to the

(48:04):
bushes say I pete on their pine straw and they
don't know. Maybe maybe they got cameras. But just to
know you got away with it. There is absolutely no
doubt the things you got to do it. You will
play it and walk it, which is a pain in
the ass. But you eat a pimental sandwich even as
a player, right, Yeah, there's no question. I actually had

(48:26):
that at home. Yesterday, eggs olad with pimento. I've been
doing it for a long time. When they said you
got to do it way ahead of you. I love
them both. And then then give me spicy pimento cheese
and I'm all in, right, you're grilling all in oh yeah,
off the chart there, off the charts. Well, it's a
basically you grill the cheese and the bread like a
grilled cheese and then you slap cold egg salad on it.

(48:47):
Off the charts. Off the charts. You get that double mix, right, yeah,
there you go. So and then I think, now that
I've seen this, and I wouldn't I think, like at twelve,
you got to pee behind the T box or something
with nobody watching it. Your caddy turns because they got
their caddies there right to pee behind the t box. Say,
you know what, I left water here, but I didn't
hit it in the water even if you did. Or

(49:08):
on the bridge, you got over the bridge, you know, right,
But when you walk over the bridge and you're headed
to twelve, it's like all these guys that have made
that walk, I'm let me stop here and take a pee,
just to say that when you go, what'd you do
there shot one hundred, but what else did you do?
I peed on twelve? Yeah, I think it'd be awesome.
And Campos is the kid I'm talking about the Campos
and he's you know, he's in the middle of the pack.

(49:28):
I think he was ended up three over which can
it can turn on a dime. But the fact that
he's just there now and got his tour card, it
made for a great story.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Well it's also though, I mean, it kind of reminds
me of a story when years ago. This is going
to sound pretty dorky on the surface, but me and
my buddies we realized that Area fifty one was not
far from Vegas.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
So we were like, dude, let's go. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
So we went and we stopped at a place right
there and whatever, the little town is called the Alien
and we ate there and we could see the guy
next to us was military. So, you know, we're just
sitting there eating and you know he's just, you know,
strike up a conversation. What are you guys doing out here?
You know, we're out in Vegas. But we wanted to
at least get up to the sign there that tells

(50:12):
you do not come any further and it's one of
the famous sign that we all see, right, it's one
of those. He put his fork down, wiped his mouth
really quick and goes, do not even think about stepping
over that line. And we're like, I mean we weren't.
But he's like, no, you don't understand. You take one
step over that. These people have no sense of humor,

(50:33):
you will be shot, like you like it, right, There
is no get back behind the line. The get back
behind the line is someone takes a live round. There's
no get back coach, No, no. And that's what it
kind of reminds me of it, Augusta is you know,
maybe he gets up to the clubhouse and there's somebody
right there.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
They've got the tie on, they've got the green jacket on.
We don't do that here at Augusta. Oh what do
you mean? Maybe that's a guarantee, right, you know it, right,
that's it, you know, sir, this will be the last
time that that happens. Thank you for coming. Your guest
privilegees are revoked. Dude. I just had to go to
the restroom. I had one of your great soundches and
a beer. Sorry, we don't do it, I do you

(51:11):
have the personality that, like you kind of wanted to
test it and see if you get shot? Are you
that I mean? I told you I'm a thrill SYU.
He should have never said that because me, I got
buddies and by the one said really, let's see just
how accurate they are. Like an idiot right now to
the point where you're trying to break law, although that's
breaking along, but I almost feel like that's the smaller sin. Right.
Let me just get one foot on the side and

(51:33):
one foot of the Let me walk over his line
just to see, and then I'll dash back and we'll
haul ask or you know, the little things you like
to used to do like we used to done with
your kid. We used to go around dunking on people's
baskets outside. You don't go up and dunk and count
and leave. What are you doing on our co and
you do it all over town? Right? But that one
which leads me to real quick you talk about this

(51:54):
like at times I don't even mean stuffy, but rules
at these places. I'm gonna leave the golf course out.
It's in Arizona, and it is a there's a there's
about thirty five PG tour members that are members, so
you figure out which one it is, right, Okay, So
they're playing out there and a guy they're the initiation
fee at the time, and the director of golf is

(52:16):
a great person. Right, great guy. But you walk in there.
You no phones allowed. It's golf. You know you're not
gonna be no phone's got to play in a certain
amount of time. This is these pros are and like
the at one one point time that the club champion
was like a non pro. So you know how good
some of the amateurs are too, right to go with
Billy's question. So you're there and there you'll see this

(52:36):
guy here. This guy is like, oh, I'm playing at
that golf course, right, and so I've got buddies that
are members. I went out there and played one day.
But story, the director of golf got guys a lot
of members from out of town, you know, whether they
got big money or celebrities or whatever. And your money
really doesn't matter to them. They got plenty of yeah,
oh they don't need your money. Yeah. So he calls says,
I'm coming out, bring a check, you know, through it through. Yes,

(52:59):
he want to join, said great, come on out. Boom
comes out there, hands the Director of golf to check
for six figures. Well, I think it was a bucket
a quarter. Whatever was the initiation fee? He says, good,
enjoy your around, You'll have you'll have a blast. Enjoy it.
You play with great group. Blah blah blah. See you
when you're done. Says thank you. I can't wait, goes
on a range, hit, hits balls and goes in place,
comes back in and sees the Director of Golf is

(53:23):
waiting for him, and the Director Golf hands him as check.
He goes, oh, no, no, no, no, no, this was one
of the greatest experiences I've ever had. I want to join.
Keep the check. Yes, no, no, no, he goes, anybody
that needs to steal are titlest off the practice range?
Isn't the type of member we want? So what he did?
You know they don't have stripes on those titleists because

(53:45):
a pro prog. They are literally the pro v. The
pro V's and prov exits. They're hitting off the yeah
at the golf course, you know. And so he just
grabs a couple of sticks in his bag. He's like, dude,
you make enough money to give one hundred a quarter
for your initiation fee, go in the pro shop and
buy a case. You're probably gonna need more than just three.
Now the pros can go buy one sleeve and play

(54:05):
them the whole way. You grab them, spend your fifty
five bucks and get to the golf course. He took balls,
stuck him in his bag, they knew, he came back
in and they handed him his check back for six
plus figures and he'll never be able to be a
member again.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
That's one of those where you know, maybe in front
of them, you just conveniently, man, it's a really nice ball.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
If the we'll go on it, why don't you keep it? Yeah,
like that's all and they probably would have said keep it,
no problem. But just just going to the pro shot
to and by not knowing, and I'm sure it was
kind of innocent, but who hasn't said, man, I'd like
to kake a couple of these in my bag, right,
But when you're at those courses, don't, yeah, because somebody's
they will get your ass and you'd be better off

(54:45):
hitting golf balls at the clubhouse. Then you would taking
a titleist from their driving range and didn't get to
be a member. So some of those well you some
consider it stuff. And then there's some private courses where
if you're not a member that likes music, and there's
one course there and a buddy mind's a member there.
If you're not, if you don't like music stuff, you
can play barefoot. It's really it's a it's a goal.

(55:06):
I mean, they got too much money and it's one.
It's expensive and it's a great private course. But you
can drive your golf cart. Just be smart, drive your
golf court cup three yards off away from the bunker
or the green. Just don't park it on it and
be smart. Music Blair. And if you're the member that
bitches about that you got the wrong course and it
is frigging off the charts right and you're thinking, now

(55:28):
that's my type of course, pumping the music, have some
fun and you're mad at the person who's bitching about
drinking a beer on the course, or play fast. Go ahead,
let your music go. I don't care if you're in
a T shirt. If you want to play barefoot the
whole time, have at it, but make sure you just
do it respectful. If that, If that, I don't know
if they both co exist. Just don't drive on the green.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Be smart.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
But you don't have to be one hundred and twenty
five yards away and get to the side in your
golf cart. We're trusting that you're going to treat this
course like it's your own.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
I want to I want to be at the club
that's got al Chervick as a member, not the one
that's got judged smiles.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
You will never be a member here at Bushwood. Yeah,
you're kidding. This place is a dumb right. I want
to be the member of. Like you say, you're playing
with your buddies and like the music's playering and ac
DC's pumping out, and your your tip a wedge into
a green and then you're going and hanging out at
the golf course and playing cards or playing with your
buddies and laughing and nobody and nobody cares. But the
course is immaculate because there's that respect of when you

(56:21):
have a divot, fix it okay, And so that's how
those members do. But you pay a lot of money,
you might as well get the most out of your
golf course.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
I guess we're real quick here because I know we're
up against it. But I remembered once we had this
really like stuffy group of blue hairs behind us, and
one guy just you know, just every little thing.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, well we don't do that around here.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Buddy of mine goes, hey, scarecrow, you ever thought about
maybe becoming gumby?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah? Need to loosen up a little bit. None of
us are getting paid of the PGA top. We're gonna
be okay. Yeah. One of my buddies called those type
slow breathers. Yeah, yeah, the blue He's like, oh man,
he's a slow breather. Man. He's been here for forty
seven years and he doesn't think you should be allowed
to listen to music on your office. He's up, buddy,
I understand, I understand. Ease up. I'm not gonna be mad.

(57:06):
I'll do what I can. I'll turn the music down
when you're hitting end us and that will be okay. Well, okay,
I'm not saying anything on tour. It's just you know,
you don't have much time left, so why don't you
enjoy it? Right? And you're never going to be on
the Champions Store, So have fun. That's it.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
Have a good time, that's it. That's what it's all
about out there, all right? Coming up next, Uh, here's
a life lesson you know we got them on the
side of the refrigerator. Don't slap wildlife on the ass.
Somebody found that out. We'll talk about it here.

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This is Craig Visio. You're listening to Sean Salisbury on
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Oh, have it fun.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
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Speaker 1 (59:36):
What are you hearing out there now? The Salisbury stakeout?
Salisbury takeout on the Sean.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Salisbury Show, Sports Stock seven ninety It is the Shawn
Salisbury Show, Shawn TRIPLEI, Dan Matthews here with you. Astros
back home for the Angels, starting up a weekend series.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
We're now Blanco on the mound.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
Tonight Rockets second to last regular season game in LA
against the Lakers, and round two of the Master is
about to get going. Justin Rose your leader after round one, Sean.
When it comes to wildlife, I mean, I think you
know the first part of that probably is enough. I
mean a lot of people, you know, you see, say

(01:00:19):
I don't know. A raccoon, you know, right out there
near York trash can Ah, looks so cute, looks so cuddly. Yep,
you go up on that raccoon. That raccoon ain't gonna
be cute and cuddly anymore. That raccoon's gonna let you know, hey,
that half eaten burger right there. I feel like you're
trying to take that from me. I ain't gonna allow
that to happen. So here come the clause, brother. Yea, no,

(01:00:39):
not at all. So the Instagram page hunting the Life
posted a video of a guy that sees a wild
hog in a trap and it looked like it was
kind of like some sort of like fishing you know,
lure wire or something, you know, fishing line or something
that had wrapped around the wild hog and it's there
on the ground. He goes over there and sees that.

(01:01:02):
All right, you know, this hog is trapped. I'm not
going to kill it whatever, I'm going to cut it loose.
I mean, you never want your hog trapped, don't. You
know what I'm saying. Don't you do not want your
hog to get trapped. It's it's you know, that's that's
not where you want to be.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
You want your hog to be able to be free
in the run, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, just
I mean, just a hunch, that's it. Okay, that's it.
He's again. Life rules on the side of the refrigerator.
You just touched on one of them. All right, So
he cuts the hog loose. Boy, don't clip that anytime
hogs mentioned in a sentence. It's really hard to keep

(01:01:38):
his straight face. But so he cut his hog loose.
He cut you, well, the wild hog, but well well
well yeah, so he cuts it loose. It wasn't that caddy.
And then he finally, hey, kid, you make this puddle,
make it with you a while. There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
So he cuts it loose, and after he cuts the
line from the wild hog, he gives it a slap
on the backside.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
That did not make the hogs slap that ass. Yeah,
Like I was as almost kind of like, hey, you're free,
get out of here. But I like the fact that
because that whenever I see like an animal get caught
like Barbier, it gives me a six stimme because of wildlife.
They don't deserve that. And so I like, cut it loose,
andy and tap it, like, go do the thing man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Yeah, I mean, because there are videos out there of
like what was it? I think a deer or no,
it was over in Australia, a king karo I saw it, yeah,
on the side of the road car and rescued. And
then the next day the kangaroo and the little Joey
with it was at his door. It came back like
a hey, thanks for doing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
That because of an owl got caught in one and
somebody cut that loose and let the owl go, which
is like, you know, they get a couple of you know,
maybe a couple of scars and stuff, but you know
what they're they'll be fine, but it's just when you
see him, it's devastating. So he slaps the ass of
the hogs. They go and do your thing.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
The hog was not as appreciative after the fact of hey,
you cut me loose, so the hog charge the guy
went after him. So in the video which I will
post on the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Hog, right, I mean, or what you deserve, thanks for
taking care of your hog.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
Now, I wonder do you think maybe it was that
season because like where my parents live in the hill country,
they tell you when it's mating season, watch them. Don't
do it because like, like bucks are legitimately crazy because
they're just like that, like, hey, I gotta yeah, So
I mean they will they will run in front of you,
they will run at you, they just like humans do. Right,

(01:03:35):
there's a video out there like that is on hunting
social media of somebody like that, like walks up to
this buck and it just looks like it's in a daze,
and the guy literally starts tapping on its antlers, like hey, buddy,
snap out of it. And then finally, you know, the
buck does and it takes off. But it's like, that's
what the season does.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Absolutely so, and I don't blame him, but I also
you don't know what they're thinking at the time, right,
So was the guy okay, oh yeah, yeah, he was
able to run to his a TV, get in it
and take off, and you know, of course, then the
hog went on to do whatever you know, So I
mean who doesn't. I mean, here's the moral of the
story is for me, is well you get that ass left.

(01:04:14):
How many people are mad at that? I mean, sometimes
it's gonna be startling, depending on what it is and
who's doing it. I guess it's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
Look, I mean, who am I to be upset about
being graced with such a great bat?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
That's exactly what. Yeah, what are you gonna do? But
the whole key is that the hog. I mean, he
freed his hog. That's the real key and all this
that's it. Yeah, I like that the moral of the story.
Make sure you're not hog tied. It was right in
front of us the entire time there. One finds it

(01:04:49):
to not be hog tied, dude. That's to see the
see the force of the tree, dand that's it. Do
not be hoged. Make sure well, make sure your hogs
are free to roam. That's where they can graze. What
hog doesn't want to graze out there? Right right? They
got vitals to get you know what I'm saying, Let
them do their thing. Well, I mean remember at Arkansas too,
that you know it was the wildcat. They called it
the wild hog. Yeah, exactly. And when you want to

(01:05:11):
when you have Darren McFadden right there, you go, right,
you do not want to at no point in time
do you want to make it cumbersome on your on
your hog. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you just
don't want to do that. So especially in barbar that too,
or was it a barbarier fence? Is that what it
was caught in or now it looked like a chicken

(01:05:31):
wire because.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
He was using like a knife, so I mean it
looked like it was some sort of like you know,
a high intensity like twine or a fishing line or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Okay, so more twine. Then so's he's a knife cut
instead of you know, going out there where you're getting
big old like wire cutters to cut the Yeah, I
got you. Yeah, well the more the hog's free. But
remember they are wild animals. Yes, so that's the Again.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Another moral of the story here is, oh, it looks
so cute and cuddly. Yeah, they're cute and cuddly until
they think that, Oh hey, you're you're fighting for me
on the food chain. Guess who's gonna win this battle?
But right, yeah, and then you don't want the hog
coming after you right now. Now you got some of
those places out west playing golf. Oh look at that
cute black bear. Well guess what, there's a larger black
bear that's right around the corner. And you don't want

(01:06:18):
to get to meet Yogi.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Might suggest as you play fast and get in your
car inside.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Yeah yeah, yeah, no fun, all right coming out next
speaking you know mentioned Arkansas. There's some college football we
can weave into the show because we talked about this
a little bit yesterday. Well, Steve Sarkisian has some very
wise advice, and I feel like Longhorn fanc need to
listen to this.

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And for the Sewn Salisbury show continues.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Bill Beck, who's a regular and love Bill, and he says,
Yoshawan per Masters in augusta National golf Course rules announcers
can't say pee. Think about this, he says, it's it's
called personal evacuation. Why, he says, in true story, I mean, listen,
I understand they got their rules. There are we really

(01:08:11):
he has to go? Can you say go to the restroom?
I mean, or do you have to say he's he's
at the twelve tea box. He's gonna personally evacuate, which
means we're supposed to, Oh, he's gotta go pee. I mean,
we got to have bigger fish to fry, right, I
would think so.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
But then again, you have to remember this is the
place that removed a broadcaster because he said these greens
look like they've been bikini waxed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
What was it?

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Brandal Shambley was on the four Play podcast. We mentioned
it a couple of days ago, talking about Tiger about
how they can describe things, and then at the end
of it he says, oh, but you know, but the
broadcast is basically sitting on the porch drinking sweet tea.
I'm like, no, it's none of those things. It's not
stiff either, But it's like also like why, like who cares?

(01:08:56):
It's not like if you say, hey, he had to pee,
that people are gonna be like, oh my god. I
thought AUGUSTA National was a lot more classy than this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Well, I think it's speak for itself. I think more
of us would question if you say personal evacuation, I
would think then guy had to go pee. But it
walks like that. That's my point. But I also, like,
I said, well, I guess we don't want to say
it too loud because I'd love to get invited to
play there with a buddy. Would They would be awesome.
But but the truth is who calls fans patrons? I mean,

(01:09:25):
and if you're in a broadcast, it would be so
easy to say, oh man, the fans are excited about
the You know, I don't understand the derogatory part of it.
He explained that, yeah, and I didn't hear that part
of it. But it's like patrons. If you're sitting there,
it's all of a sudden you get excited on like
the shot that Verne lunk was when Tiger hit the
flop shot down there and rolled it into Grant sixteen

(01:09:46):
and knocked it in the hole. He says, have you
in your life ever seen anything like this? What if
he'd have said the fans are going crazy? After that?
And I can't think about Verne's calls. He's had that one,
he had the one with Jack when he says yes, sir,
Think about if he would have said, yes, the fans
are going crazy. Oh, I mean patrons, I mean, are
we really running him out for that? Well, then you're

(01:10:07):
gonna have a couple of the green jacks. I've never said, Man,
the patrons over here. If you're a fan at the
US Open, you're a fan of Augusta. I mean, I
know they have their rules. Now. The greatest thing about
august aside from the beautiful golf course and how iconic
and you know Bobby Jones and the old thing is
you go through Rip. Hamilton was interviewed pre pre tournament
start yesterday. They were on the course, but like on

(01:10:28):
the on Golf channel or whatever, it's Van Pelt and
what's our gal's name? Who does NFL life? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Laura Elis.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Yeah, Laura Rutledge is interviewing. She had Sam Darnold and
Richard Hamilton and he said, you know, all this is
my first time to Gus. It's awesome and to say,
I mean everything no phones, which is great because you
can just focus on the experience instead of tweeting and
taking no pictures. All. I love that part of it. Yeah,
but he said, you know, I went and ordered exile
and I had to get myself pimental. He went to
the listen because it cost me about the total of

(01:10:57):
the day is like sixteen bucks. And he goes, that's
the greatest thing. So prices and he said, you'll never
get that anywhere else in the world or the country.
And he's right. For a golf course, it's so stringent.
You still get a sounds for two bucks, and that's
that's a great thing. But I just for me, it's like,
I don't talk, I don't call people patrons. I'm not
a brit Okay we're now, If that's the case, can

(01:11:17):
I call them the sea word? You know the world
that you so freely. I mean, it's you know, they
use it like it's like, hey, hello, how you doing.
You're just such a blah you know, sea tails. It's like, oh, well,
they use it, and it's I mean, I'm sure the
caddy on playing it when he's caddying for you on
the other side of the pond and you hit a

(01:11:38):
shot and go, oh man, I've seen a lot of
seatails do that, but meaning with a laugh and affectionate. No,
don't do that here. But patrons. I've just never understood it.
So what does Shambley say.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
About so he said that they don't want you to
call them fans because of course, you know, fans are short, right, Yeah,
it's short for fanatical, and they don't want people to
be looked at out there as being fanatic.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
You can't run on the course or any of that stuff.
And I get it, I I do. Some of them
are a little overboard. It's their list. They can do
what they want, keep the prices down like you do
for food, and people love it. And I understand for
four days you can be you can call them patrons,
but they're still it's just so weird because I would
never talk like that. Well, I mean, but you are fanatical.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
You're there because you love the game, right of course,
it's one of the you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Go to Augusta if you've never played golf for the experience.
It's it's the Rose Bowl, it's lambeau Field. You got
to study your checklist. As a broadcast are the things
you can't say as much as the things you prepare
for about the golfer, so you don't screw it up. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
It's almost kind of like you know, how uh oh,
well you're done, you know, yeah, this is your first
and the last.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
Yeah, it's it's almost kind of like for the broadcasters,
like the performer, that you've got to put the city
on the back of the guitar because you know, you're
in Detroit and you can't say, hey, thank you Cleveland
or in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Yes, yeah, yeah, bad idea, Yeah, no doubt. You gotta
make sure.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
And by the way, the prices out there, I've been
told that they're so low because the unofficial reason is
we have so much money, sir or ma'am, we don't
need yours.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
That's right, and I also believe it used to be
the case. I also still believe that how they do
it is years ago when when I was playing in Minnesota,
one of my one of our owners was a member
he since passed away. A great guy, but a member,
and we got to talk and great human of it.
Do you know realize and talk to people at that time,
the initiation fee is like less than thirty grand I

(01:13:31):
think it was three eighty five. What's that? It was
like three hundred and eighty five dollars. Yeah, and it
got so the initiation fee, you you get into a
bigger initiation if you're playing at a private course here, well
what happens. I think it's probably still the case. And
you know, number one, you got to be invited and
go through all that, and you know, kind of lie's
a right. We finally got the point where there women
can be a member, which is a good thing. You know,

(01:13:51):
the Jack Welch's of the world, the CEOs, all those guys. Right, Well,
I think Lou Holtz is a member there now too,
And there's only a certain amount of mention. Right I'm
out here, man, But when I coached to South Carolina,
they gave they gave me a member to you, but
I haven't been able to ton away of a thought. Yeah,
and I would imagine he plays there as often as
he can, because I feel like he's the guy I

(01:14:12):
think that kind of fits to how he approaches his life, right, Oh,
there's no doubt so with that. But I think what
they do, and this is probably common in a lot
of like ultra exclusive private courses, is well, the initiation
fee august it's it's being invited and being a member
is the exclusivity part of it. But what they do
at the end of the year, you know how you're

(01:14:32):
paying your dues. At the end of the year, they
round up, say, well, we had the storm and it
costs eight million, you know, twenty seven million dollars in damage.
So guess what we split it equally among all the members. Yeah,
so that's how they get you. It's like you're living here,
we don't got a state tax, but that property tax
is going to crush your ass, right, same thing there.

(01:14:52):
Oh no, the dues and the the initiation fe nothing
that's not high. The hardest part is getting invited to
be be a member there. And once your remember you
just got to understand when when the end of the
year rolls around and we've done fifty million dollars worth
of maintenance to keep this place looking like Augusta and
for you to be able to play for seven months
a year. That'll cost you three million dollars in December. Okay,

(01:15:13):
so we've rat say you're hoping storms don't hit so
you don't have to have that big bill at the
end of the year. Yeah, you don't want that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
I mean, you know, you want to be able to
do the Christmas tips for the staff. But then outside
of that, Yeah, you don't want that bill hitting. But
all that being said, we all still want to go
and play there, are you damn right? I'll learn the language.
If you can't say pee or Patriot or fan, I
can handle that. To play there, I'll behave for a day, yeah, yeah,
or for four of course, of course, no doubt. Yeah,
anything for Augusta absolutely all right. Coming up next, do

(01:15:42):
you want to get into a little bit of something
we talked about yesterday when Gordy was in here. We'll
discuss that here on the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk
seven ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:15:51):
We want to win.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety telling.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Me where you can't do this, that you disqualified because
you walked on the pinee is wrong. I get it,
I do. But if you say true story when it
comes to Augusta what's the first thing you're thinking. Damn,
I would I would believe it. So apparently you're allowed
to say pee or you're not. I wouldn't know. But
it's Augusta. Maybe you should just say found the uh

(01:16:19):
the relief station. I guess that's a good one too. Yeah.
When the first I'm not sure if it's JK or
if it's real. I'm gonna go with JK since it
was his last tweet, So I had Augusta. And when
they when they said rules, I believe any hardcore rule
there I will. You could tell me that they the
Azaleas are fake and I'd say, now, that will get

(01:16:39):
you removed.

Speaker 12 (01:16:39):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Yeah, but if you say, oh, if you say that,
you're done. They look fake. They're real. And so you
said fake, we can't. We can't put you on.

Speaker 5 (01:16:47):
It's like the year that that Bubba Watson the first
time he won Buddy of Mine, was just like walking
to follow him. He feels somebody like run past him,
like almost kind of brush him. For one of the
Porta John's. It was Bubba Watson.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Oh he did that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
He was he was running to to use the Portageohn
really quick and then get back out on the course.
Were they both going to the portageohnt No, he just
like he was walking, you know, just walking you know,
on the pine straw up the fairway and uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
He didn't end up winning the turn. That was one
the ones he won. Yeah, he's won twice.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
There, right, So I told my buddy, you had a
brush with greatness, or maybe he had a brush with
greatness there you go, maybe maybe you were the maybe
that was the reason.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
That's it. Yeah, yeah, being able to he went twice there, Yeah, yeah,
twice two green jacket. Pretty important and probably the most
boring Champions dinner ever. Was like it was like grilled
chicken breasts, like mashed potatoes and green beans, and it's
just like it's so classic though, but but it's a
bit it's do you have to be? I mean, they
tell you could have whatever you want, so bubbles chicken

(01:17:43):
and mashed potatoes and and Caesar side. It was a
traditional Caesar south right green meat. Now you're right because
he took a lot of crap for it. Now, Scheffler's
had everything you'd want. Oh dude, if you're not a
chicken eater, then you're host right at least got to
give him a couple of both. It was the shortest, small,
the most simple menu on the planet. It was like
the flight on on airplane steak fish right, you know

(01:18:07):
right exactly boring, yes, but classic the fact that it
kind of feels, well, let me do this, but man
with with that and you can do whatever you want.
I'm on, I'm empty in the bucket on mine like
we did on right, aren't you? Oh dude, yeah, absolutely,
no doubt about it. But I think that's classic, that
that that Bubba designed to go with. Like you read

(01:18:27):
the menu, say that this can't be it. He's got
one one, one dessert done. Talk about the chefs are
probably saying, man, this is the easiest thing we had
to do. We grill a little chicken, a vegetable medley
or creed, beads of caesars ouid, and some potatoes. What
was it mashed potatoes? Yeah, good to go, classic chef.
The cheffer is a gat You woke up the next

(01:18:49):
morning with carbohydrate hangover and a protein hangover both the
next day.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
I'm wondering if you know, maybe you know, you get
a guy that played golf at l s U. If
if one year you know they went and they say,
you know what, bring out the newspaper.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
We're eating crawfish right there on the night that they
iron over. That that'd be you know, that would be
pretty amazing though. If you want it and then you
get to go. Let's let's say you know, Thigala wins
it right and decide, Man, I love crawfish and he
wants a crawfish boil and Augusta for the dinner. What
can they say, now, dude, we don't do that here.

(01:19:23):
It's your dinner. Yeah, I mean get tired to get
down and red potatoes there and corn on the cop. Well,
you've got to put a bib on and get after
it at the place where they probably the bib the
only bibs they have on the caddies and the caddy
bib talking about who the guy you're playing with right now?
That would be a classic. You bring it, bring it, hey,

(01:19:43):
It's where I come from. This is what we want here,
and we're gonna we're gonna load up because it's crawfish season.
The prefect. That's exactly right. So why not? Now that
would be a classic for sure. Of that thought for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
By the way to uh, you know, mentioned the Astros
playing the night, starting up a weekend series with the
Angels Rockets out on the West Coast. Some breaking news
coming down a couple of minutes ago, uh, the Texans
and Jalen Petrie agreeing to a contract extension.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I I love him as a football player. I don't
know him as h but I do. I think his
I think that this is the best young secondary in
the in the NFL, and they haven't even learned how
to play yet. Stingley is getting paid like it and
he's best football still in front of him. Lassiter proved already.

(01:20:28):
It was almost as if you know, as a high pick.
Lassitter comes in says, I want to I got to
keep up with the dude on the other side. Look
what happens. Bullock is a steal in mid rounds. Then
you go out and get my guy, uh from played
New Orleans and in Philadelphia last year, the safety oh
Gardner Johnson, and then you you also have Petrie, who

(01:20:52):
is going to be healthy and ready to go. I'm
just telling you, you've got to have six of a minimum, right,
You've got to have guys that can cover in the slot,
whether they're corners or safeties. But hybrid where you can
do both, where you don't have to leave the field.
Petrie gives you a guy who can come down and
play a box safety but also can run around and
and cover, but also hits everything that moves. And I

(01:21:13):
think he's gotten more disciplined about you know, Johnny on
the spot around the football, but disciplined on you don't
have to hit the knockout tackle every time, right, just
make the tackle. I think this secondary is the best
young secondary in the NFL. And the fact of matter is,
aside from Carter Johnson, just go with those four I mentioned, dude,

(01:21:34):
the KG veteran is a third year guy, a third
year guy, and he hadn't even mentioned Jimmy Ward. That's
exactly right. Oh, that's he's just an added Bonuss's been
in the league and who's familiar with with with Demko's doing.
But you think about it, two rookies, a third year
guy and a third year guy. Your your your aging

(01:21:56):
veteran is a third year player. Both of those guys
got their extensions in Petrion Stingley as third year players.
And now you got these rookies who don't know even
how to play yet and they're damn good at it.
Wait till they actually learn it and then around the
league and stay healthy. Yeah, this is hints why with
that your edge rushers, what you're doing at linebacker and

(01:22:16):
they're active and they're cut down on some penalties and
be smarter. That's why this draft needs to be focused
on the offensive side of the ball, at least at
the top to the offense. I would have thought a
year ago the offense was going to continue to stay
ahead of the defense. I mean, they were close, but
just the explosiveness of the offense right and the truth
the matter is the defense is well ahead of the

(01:22:36):
offense right now because you're trying to make shift this
new offensive line. If they can get that fixed and
add another body and get tanked Dell down the road
healthy and Nico continues to do his thing. I'm just
telling you, if the offense ever gets close to catching
up like they were as rookie, as a Stroud's rookie
or with the defense, you have a team that will
get by the divisional round of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:22:58):
And it's also I mean, you know, you look at
it team like the Chiefs, they seem like they're on
the back end of this thing really keeping rolling the Bills.
I mean, I think the burden of proof is more
on the Bills than it is the Texans to be
able to prove that they can get over the hump.
It seems like Baltimore is the same way, right, Absolutely
it is. But I mean to your points, I mean,
we just saw it in the Super Bowl of what
a just absolutely suffocate you defense looks like then that's

(01:23:21):
what the Eagles were is they said, hey, Mahomes, all
that running around stuff you do, you ain't doing it
today because we've got it come from the middle, and
we got it come from the edge.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
And yeah, you want to try to escape East and West.
We got two edge rushers that are good players in discipline.
And you think about that. You mentioned the Super Bowl
and defense from Philadelphia. Now look at Philadelphia's offense, the
quarterbacks playing at a high level and especially in big games,
they and think what one or two players does you
bring Barkley and who some people that, well, is he
ever going to make the Giants even though he's good?

(01:23:52):
Is he going to make the Giants the Super Bowl? Well,
you bring him to a team that's got that's loaded,
and he was the difference to home run hitting wide receivers.
With DeVante and aj Brown good tight end, they're loaded.
And now that offense and defense quite frankly, they can
both win you games on a regular basis. Win the
Texans defense and offense come closer together as far as

(01:24:14):
the offense and aggressiveness and doing it right matches the defense.
This will be a legitimate, not a threat, a legitimate
February late January February threat as opposed to be in
an early January threat.

Speaker 5 (01:24:28):
And hopefully that next round it's at NRG Stadium. You
heard Will Anderson Junior say that last year. So Texans
hoping to take that next step in twenty twenty five.
All right, coming up next a little bit of college football.
One of your good buddies, Steve starkeisian. He's got some
really good advice that I hope that people will listen to.
That's next right here, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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Speaker 7 (01:25:59):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Sean Salisbury.

Speaker 8 (01:26:04):
Usc troupes longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
Dan matthewscuse, this is the Sean Salsbury Show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I think he's on one right now. But with what
Max Homer and playing with Max Holme and somebody else, right,
who is it? Homa and oh jj spawn is Yeah,
they have the guy from the Players Championship. And this
isn't you know, because he's the leader. He goes out
last on Saturday. It's just if you played late afternoon yesterday.

(01:26:36):
Obviously you play morning today and he's out there early.
Got the vest on. Must be a little chilly in augusta.
Got the vest on analog sleeves underneath the short sleeve
so or like a little zip up. So yeah, must
be a little chilly. Get the hands warm and let
it rip.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
You know it's and you know you've got to still
afternoon action. The cut line looks like it's gonna be
plus two. And so with our our little draft that
we had, you're you're looking a little bit better than
I am. I've got a couple of guys that are
a little bit further down in the plus numbers that
need to go loaded in.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Yeah, our Thursday Scheffler minus four and Ludwig minus four too.
My guys saw minus eight. Rory's even, Morikawa even, and
then John Rahm's plus three. He's right around the cut line,
and he wasn't very good yesterday. So overall, after one day,
I'm at minus five with my five guys.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
Yeah, I think I'm probably in plus numbers right now,
just with Henley, and also who else did.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
I I can look at you guys, who are you good?
You remember you guys got Rusty Henley?

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Yeah, I got Matsuyama, Henley Lee, Sepstraca was the other one,
and Bryce.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Hey Straca is plus six, so write this down. You're
six over. And who else? Henley is plus sus seven?
I think you had Jose Maria Olethable.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
I just kidding, Yeah, Alaza Ball was not part of
my team. Henley seven and a guy that I thought
would play better for sure Henley. But also, who's the
other guy you just said? Minwoo Lee? No the second one?

Speaker 12 (01:28:06):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
Uh Straka yeah? Cepstraca is plus six okay, thirteen over
now that's good. Who else you got?

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
I've got Min Won Lee who is minus seven minus one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Okay, so now you're you're twelve over Okay. I've got
Matsiyama a DECI. Matsuyama is uh was one over yesterday,
has a teet off today, so that means you are
back to thirteen over.

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
And then who's your big dog? The first one was
prison he's minus three so plus so you're plus ten. Yeah, okay,
so I'm right now. It's like to play the fifteen
strokes that eddie. Yeah, yeah, it's hey, it can happen.
This is this is like a scrambled tournament. You know,
you got the light. That's ittle racer. You show you

(01:28:51):
show up there at the clubhouse. Oh yeah, hey we
we shot fifty six.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Oh you did.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
If it wasn't Augusta right now, I'd be saying I
got a fifteen shot lead, I'm safe. Yeah. But the
fact somebody can go sideways or you can have one
of those guys go low, that's it and then then
you're right, I mean, you're right back in it. So
it's kind of like picking the bracket.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
Maybe the first day you took it on the chin
with some of the upsets, and then the next day
you were able to get yourself back in Exactly, you
got to ride the highs and lows.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
It's gambling for a reason. Golf and gambling are about
the same time and absolutely risk. I mean, every single shot,
every single bed is like, how's it gonna end up?

Speaker 7 (01:29:23):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
Remember at Bushwood, gambling was illegal, sir, and he never sliced,
and I know, yeah, gambling is like uh, gambling is
illegal at Bushwood, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
And besides, I never sliced right and one of the
great lines, okay to me, oh you nothing? It was great.
We're waiting. I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Yeah, tell us tell a chef this low rate dog food.
We could go on and on. There's there's plenty of them.
When it comes to Caddy Shack, I will machine gun
those quotes. We'll get to Sark here in a second.
But uh, Brandon wants the way and good morning, buddy.

Speaker 7 (01:29:59):
Good morning. He wants internet yesterday. Say that again, he
was Internet yesterday?

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
Did oh you lost Internet? Oh that sucks, man, So
you couldn't watch the golf, couldn't. I mean, at least
the Astros and Rockets weren't playing yesterday, so we spared
ourselves from heartbreak.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
And you didn't have to see that. No, there you go,
what you got on? These Astros got.

Speaker 6 (01:30:22):
Up yesterday morning, turned on the TV and we watched
I think the the internet guys probably kicked the cord
and watch the Internet.

Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
Oh I got you. Are you watching any of the
golf or you not much of a golf guy?

Speaker 7 (01:30:43):
I'm a guy cool?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Okay, who do you? Who do you think is gonna
win this weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:30:49):
I was thinking Tiger Woods.

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
Oh well, he's not in the field. Uh, but yeah,
I'd love to see it. What about these astros, I
know you're gonna be there this weekend. I am, oh, okay,
how about Brandon, I've got a little bit of you know,
let's put it out in the atmosphere. Let's let's make
this happen. Christian Walker and east Soak Peretis both Homer

(01:31:12):
this weekend. Does that sound good to you?

Speaker 7 (01:31:14):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
I like it sounds good, all right? Yeah? Yeah, buddy,
how you doing doing?

Speaker 7 (01:31:20):
Okay? Ye? I lost power yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yeah, it's what I heard. It's okay. Hopefully it's back
on today and get back especially for the weekend. Too
much good stuff going on for them to lose power.
They got to get their act going. Man, let's get
this thing right. What are we doing? Come on, we
pay enough money on our cable. Get it right. Knows
that's dr out.

Speaker 7 (01:31:39):
Yeah, you're a company, Sean.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Well, well, my internet company I believe is Infinity. Is
that right? Yeah? Infinity? Yeah? And Iran, I can tell you, Brandon,
I complain about it. I'm out in the area where
with a four a mile an hour breeze hits and
full shure, my internet goes out, so I know your complaints.

(01:32:04):
I am right with you, brother, so hopefully yeah and
is you Yeah, there you go. We can complain about
it together once in a while. I know they're trying,
but it's it's none the more frustrating than when it
goes out when you want to watch something that you
care about, especially too. What an awesome weeknness is Brandon,
have fun at the game, man. Yeah, we do appreciate you, buddy. Ah, buddy,

(01:32:28):
we'll talk to you next week. I tell your mother
hello for us. See you see you buddy? All right?
Uh yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:34):
And you know, the funny thing is is whenever you
run into situations like that where hey, my internet's out.
Oh I'm sorry, here's a ten dollars credit. Oh that's
going to go a long way. Thank you for what
for the ten dollar credit?

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
You mean the three hundred dollars bill I got to
pay for the Major League Baseball package or whatever it is.
You know, it's crazy though inevitably it always goes off
when you have something important to do. It never goes off.
And two in the morning, when you don't care, right,
it goes off. You're getting ready to do an interview
with somebody, you know, like somebody wants you to go
on with Matt Piscano or something, and you're doing it

(01:33:08):
on a phone instead, and all of a sudden, phone
hangs up. Yeah, and there's nothing more. If you're an interview,
that where you have to The technology kicks in on
an interview when you've scheduled it right. But that's when
it always happens. Or you or you're you're you're about
closing because you have to do something with a you know,
with your bank or something. It's like, Okay, I'm almost
done with this, we got it done, and you freaking

(01:33:30):
they always tell you, well, we can't. You can't call
us back, and then it stops and you have to
start the process all over again. It'll always happen when
you need it to. It never happens in the middle
night where you don't need it. The Internet, it always
goes out when it's necessary to have it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:45):
I think technology and AI has basically understood the concept
of a union job in mandated break time, and that's
when you know you basically have AI right there. If
it were a person just you know, sitting in the
corner smoking a cigarette and being like, hey, this is
me time brother.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Yeah, sorry, hey, I smoking a grit. But inevitably it won't.
It won't happen when you don't need It'll always happen
when the worst. It never failed.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
I mean it's just like you know, it's you really
need it, it's not there. And then you know when
it's like you know, hey, all right, this is cool.
I've got it. I always love it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Why not go down now? Yeah, we can put a
man on the moon and kind of do whatever we want.
You know, technology can do it. Well. I can find
an answer to anything from a I put a business
plan together. Hey, I can have a team about eight
seconds with a little information, right, it's crazy, and we
can stick We can send people to the moon and
all that stuff to space. Hey, how's your cell tower?

(01:34:37):
But we can't get an extra cell tower to a
cell tower to work. Sometimes it's it's I'm not you know,
that's above my pay grade. All that stuff, the wiring
and a cell tower and how it works. But it
is frustrating thing. Can you just put one more? Maybe
it's a growing community and this isn't nineteen forty seven. Okay,
we're not talking into a cup. Okay, can you please

(01:34:59):
fix all?

Speaker 13 (01:35:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Yeah, we're gonna get to it. And then inevitably when
you call, hey, we're experiencing a high volume of calls. Bitches,
you're crazy. You say that every day, all day. You're
not experiencing high volume of calls. You just don't have
anybody working. Okay, they're government. Oh sorry, I digress, Uh
go to work. But it's frustrating because we're experiencing a
high volume of calls. Of course you are, because your

(01:35:22):
internet's down for the seventy fourth time in three days.

Speaker 5 (01:35:25):
You know how they're gonna get it. You know how
they're going to fix that, right, Ai. Of course you're
going to be talking to AI. You're already talking to
somebody who doesn't live near you. I'm trying to fix it.
I'm trying to fix something.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
In my town, and they're in I don't know, uh,
somewhere somewhere that it would take three days to travel
to get to. Well, I'm right here. You go, guys local,
we're local, four thousand miles away. So I have no
idea what you're going through. Oh Ai, If you think
you're not getting in anything but an automated voice. Now, yeah,

(01:35:59):
but the truth is in truth A I will probably
get you done, get it done faster probably, which sucks
first for the human element, but right now, when it
comes to one, you get something fixed. The last thing
you want to talk to is human element because you're pissed.
You know what I'm saying, nothing chaps, you asked more
and you and it's not that person's fault. Yeah, they're
the middleman. It's like, sorry, and you that what you're done.

(01:36:20):
You say, I'm sorry for getting frustrated you. I know
it's not your fault, but you want it to be
their fault, right, even though it's not right. And so
it's like, man, my bad, but I've called you and
talked to you, and aren't you the voice I talked
to yesterday? Well, sir, I don't know. We have a
lot of callers. I know you do. So yeah, man,
I feel Brandon's pain igree and I want no part
of that because you put it that way. That's the job.

(01:36:42):
Nobody calls you happy. No, you know how jobs like
certain jobs you go do you go to a fun
restaurant or a the You're happy easily. People you show
up at the golf course on a sunny day, it's
the spring or the beach. You're happy when you make
certain calls. Your bank, your HOA people, tax people, and

(01:37:04):
your internet people are phone service. You're never happy. So
they got the job, says when they wake up in
the morning and says, you know, you're like hell, even
morticians are happy sometimes. I would imagine, although I can't
imagine that that'd be a fun job. You know what
I'm saying. I would say the interaction is probably cut down,
but and it's probably, but you're also talking soft right

(01:37:25):
respect and reverence, right right reverence. Don't get so frustrated. Please.
The guy who got frustrated before he was actually in
a casket now, So don't get frustrated. But think about it.
Have you ever called the internet service happy? Of course
you haven't. Have you ever also noticed you want to
get money out of the bank A true story, real quick.

(01:37:45):
I had cash. You had the cash. You know, you
keep someone you're safe at home. Just nowadays it's under
your like old school, I was sticking under my mattress. Hell,
I don't know what, So take cash and I put
a decent chunk into the bank. I walked in and
handled them cash. Do you realize just to put it
an account to hold in a different account, right savings

(01:38:05):
or whatever. Sure, they there was a ten day hold
on my cash cash. I'd lost my mind. I said, well,
wait a minute, now it used to be cash, was
King cash in King credit is right? But I had it,
I said, I handed you cash. This isn't like when
you're waiting for your check to clear for somebody who
wrote a check for a bill. I don't know who's
writing checks anymore, but I guess every now and then

(01:38:26):
you got to have them once in a while, all
a blank check to get direct to pause whatever it
is I had Dan, I'm telling this honest to god truth.
I'll leave the bank name out. I want to throw
him under the bus so friggin bad, but I won't.
Is I hand him cash significant amount for that for me?
Right ten day? I said, you know this is why

(01:38:46):
isn't it cleared? But as a ten day hold? I
said it was cash. That's the honest to Gods what
I'm saying. So now I can't get oh, sir, and
if I go to an ATM and I want thirty
thousand dollars to go gamble in Vegas. I'm talking about it.
We can't give you that much cash. It's my cash,
my mom, it's my money now, sir, we can't do that.
So ah, the ATM only the last five hundred or

(01:39:09):
whatever it is a day. Well, what do you mean,
so do I got to go back and forth seventeen
times to get five thousand dollars if I wanted to travel.
It's my cash. It's not yours yet the bank thinks
it's their cash. The bank they're not wu tang listeners,
because if they were, they would realize that cash rules
everything around me. Cream right, can you imagine your money?

(01:39:31):
I'd yeah, I've never had that experience where I handed
you cash. I thought it was right on the record
right now you would think so, And I'm thinking, you
know what, I probably don't need to spend a whole
lot of time at this bank anymore if I can't
get my own cash, and when I give you cash,
you don't want to take it. Oh, hold, what do
you think I do robbed your bank and gave you

(01:39:51):
your money back? Come on now, son, Yeah, we got
to make sure that this cash is legitimate. Trust me,
it's good. Oh yeah, yeah, we're you guys already. I
looked up in the light to make sure that one
hundred dollars bill was safe. I just I can't look
at Brandon got me doing frustrated it. But you never
go to the bank, now, if you're getting money out
to go on a trip, or you can't get your money,

(01:40:11):
but you never call you don't. You don't ever call
a cable company happy. So those poor customer service people
are screwed, Sean. It's best of us year around here
on the Shawn Salisbury Show. December twenty third is not
just a day for airing of the grievances. Oh yeah,
it's always December twenty third around here. But it'll usually
be to an automated voice too, So there you go.
That's it, representative. We did not hear that. Oh my god. Hey,

(01:40:31):
by the way, you guys, if you're trying to call
in hang in there, we're experiencing a high volume of call.
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:40:36):
That's it the way we we you know, we should
even have the option we can call you back like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
You'll be seventh in line. I tell you, if you
don't want to be on hold, you'll seventh in line.
You're a call to and then you'll call me. Well
you're number three, Yeah, you're number three in line, you're
approximate way time four hours. Yeah, go ahead and call
me back, please, got you?

Speaker 5 (01:40:56):
Yeah, I mean unless the weight music is a banger,
which sometimes it can be. Sometimes it can be rare. Yeah,
that's rare. Yeah, because then they could do us that
favor and give us great banger music.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:41:07):
Don't want to pay those royalties though. All right, we
will get into the Sarkisian conversation here because I think
Shawn's actually gonna really enjoy this one because it involves
his favorite type of people.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
We'll talk about it right here. Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
Let the celebration start more Sean Salisbury. It's a Sean
Salisbury Show. Sean.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
We talked about this a little bit yesterday when Gordy
was in here. But Arch manning, I mean, you know,
the hype is there, We all know about it. People
have been eagerly anticipating this. But leave it to Steve
Sarkisian to bring people down the earth a little bit.
He was asked about Arch handling the Booze this season.
Is he ready for not.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
The booze with a Z, but the booze with an
ss yeah from the fans there on the forty acres.
And he said the booze, yes, because the booze are
going to come here pretty soon.

Speaker 5 (01:42:00):
And I love our fans. They love the backup quarterback,
but they hate interceptions, so yeah, those are coming. And
that's where I think that all of this comes from,
is he's one hundred percent right. I say that all
the time about the backup quarterback. Oh how are you
not starting this guy? Come on, he's so much better
than than Quinn and you he's hearing that all throughout
the season last year of people. You know, come on, Sarka,

(01:42:22):
you know, start, start art. He's so much better than Quinn.
What a year ago, you guys were begging for the
guy not to leave. You were begging to make sure
that he stays not only at Texas, but that you
know you're able to run this thing back even without
Worthy and without Whittington and all of the other guys.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
That you had.

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
Right, and you know you're gonna that quickly turn on
this guy and say he sucks, like he's no longer
that good anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Right, And it's such a great point. Here's why I listen.
We see it in all sports, and I love opinion,
and I love banter, and I love what the internet's
done in a good way. Bring you together with pop
haven't seen in a while, and bring it together with
people that you don't know but you feel like you know.
Sometimes that can be a detriment because people take it
for everybody, you know what I'm saying. But it's also

(01:43:08):
giving people a voice, and maybe you didn't here for it.
They've got a good voice, you just never had an
opportunity to voice it. But you've got to be able
to discern between who's the dumbass and who gets it right.
And as a player, here's the one thing I always say,
we see it. Trust me. When a guy makes a
stupid throw the head coach in the quarter that they
know just like we do, they're thinking the same thing.

(01:43:29):
But they don't have time to just bury him. They've
got to do everything they can because their jobs are all.
They got to find a way to get the guy
going again. And then you say, well why don't they
make the move. Here's what you have to understand. If
a guy's struggling, let's say yours would have struggled three
games around, was like, what's going on? And they still
didn't make the full time move last year. Right, Well,
here's why. Because whether it's on the practice field or

(01:43:49):
whether it's they're around him in the meeting, not saying
just Archie could be anybody that they know, they're around
the guys every day. They're not just making decisions based
on the fact that you know what, I like this.
I like when you're throwing three picks a game, and
I'm gonna get the guy out chance, right, And with
arch Manning and his reputation and who he comes from,
even harder on Sark to resist not putting him in
right when things were struggling. One thing I just try

(01:44:12):
to tell fans listen, I know, we kind of know,
and we see it with the naked eye what's going on.
But there's a lot of factors, not just one throw
on a Saturday, a Sunday or a Friday, that go
into it. Practice games, meetings, all those things, and the
fact that you're saying, over the course of time, this
guy just gives us a better chance to win. Now,
some coaches just make dumbass decisions or they get boosters

(01:44:34):
or the people saying play this guy or general manager stam,
play this guy. A lot of money involved and we
drafted you know. I know that there's political stuff that
goes into it, but for the most part, coaches want
the best player. And when they're not playing Arch, they
thought last year the guy who gives them the best
chance to win was Quinn. Here's period. Now one thing
Arch is going to struggle. There will be a time
this year when Arch Manning has a game or a

(01:44:56):
series when people say, who get him out? Who the backup?
He's not good?

Speaker 8 (01:45:01):
Over it?

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Why are we playing this guy? He just overrated Manning.
That's what you're gonna hear. Ye, Sark's gonna be like
man slow down. There's a reason why that other five
star guy and then the next five star guy and
then the next five star guy aren't playing yet either
they're not ready or from a day to day basis,
this guy literally gives us the best chance to win.
And I can tell you, even with the portal and nil,

(01:45:24):
most of the time these coaches are playing the guy
that will get them a contract extension. They're not playing
the guy that's going to get them fired. Now, over
the course of time. If a guy continues to just
say this guy has lost it, then you just make
the move and go with it. And it happens every
year on what two dozen teams across the country. So yeah,

(01:45:46):
I just he'll get booed and he'll handle it. Put
it this way. If he can't handle it, he's watched
both his brothers go through six or both his uncles
go through incredible success. And his grandfather he didn't watch it,
but he's heard about it go through great success and all.
So some some difficult questions and fair who has it?
So if anybody's primed for the DNA, preparation for the

(01:46:08):
good and the bad. And I don't know how it's
going to turn out. But I don't think you're going
to bury arch Manning. If he has a bad game
and you bow him. The truth of matter is he'll
get more cheers than booze. But if he struggles, he
will struggle this year at some point. And it's like,
what happened in that game? Do we need to bench him?
Slow down? They're going to play the guy that gets
Steve a chance to and this staff another five year contracts.

(01:46:29):
They said, sh after this one, you know what I mean.
So most of the time we may have our opinion why.
There's usually an answer to the why. It just from
our our vantage point not being around it every day,
we just don't. We can't understand it. Even now now
I haven't played and been there, it's like, what are
we doing here? And then you start to catch some
sean you were in there, you understand that they're not

(01:46:50):
playing a guy just because well for the hell of it,
they're playing because they want him to win. And then
they're also waiting for the right time to play a
guy that you know, the arch and the truth in
this day and age, Arch Manning. If he wasn't Arch Manning,
and with the direction of his family, would have already transferred.
He would have transferred last year and started at one
hundred different schools. The fact that he didn't tells you

(01:47:12):
something about how they're going about the plan for him,
not just Texas, but the Manning family and what it's
doing for him. And in truth, all he needs is
one great one and he'll be picked high reputation, family
and performance, and if it takes two great then he
can play two years. The Mannings have decided this is
not a rush job, and so is Texas and they'll

(01:47:34):
be better served for it, I believe.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
And that first game out the gate for him, by
the way, at the Horseshoe against the team that knocked
you out last year.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
It will not be easy. And then they got to
go on the road also and play Florida at which
has got a quarterback that's pretty damn good. And as
a local kid as we know Georgia at Georgia, if
you want to know how good Archer Manning is, you're
gonna find out when you play Brett Vnable's defense. We
can laugh at some of the things that goes on
with Oklaho. They're pretty good. Vetables knows how to defend.

(01:48:03):
So he's gonna If arch Manning makes it through this
and they're in national championship hunt, you may only get
him for one year because he may be a top
five pick. But then again it may be Peyton and
Eli and Dad and and Cooper say go have fun
one more college pros will wait. You don't need the money,
We're okay, go enjoy yourself. So we'll see.

Speaker 5 (01:48:22):
I was gonna say, I don't think I don't think
the Mannings are destitute by any means, I think it's
plenty of it to go around.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
I doubt that the first thing on arch Manning's mind
when he opens up next year in the Horseshoe will
be I gotta have a good game because that means
another five million in nil. I don't think that'll be
honest mind, He'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (01:48:40):
Yeah, I mean, look for the Longhorn fans out there too.
I mean, it's not like any of those receivers that
you had a couple of years ago or stole around.
And oh, by the way, you just lost Matthew Golden
and that offensive line too.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
So my guest tells me, just a hunch that there's
plenty of good players that are coming down the pipeline,
just a hunch. At Texas, I think Starks done okay
for I think he's gonna be okay.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Congratulations to he and Loriel too, expecting a new one.
Good awesome there you go, absolutely speaking of you know,
college football and some of the things you just mentioned
right there, a headline that I did not think I
would ever see. We'll talk about it here Sean Salisbury Show.
The Seawan Salisbury Show continued, and I'm actually going to

(01:49:27):
start with the headline at first, and that is Tennessee
quarterback Nico.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Im is it idava? I'm glad I don't have Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I am Aliva. I think yeahs pronounced well Nicoli. I
think it's i amily. There you go, there you go.
Eventually we get there.

Speaker 5 (01:49:48):
But the headline at Tennessee and Nico are in active
contract negotiations ahead of the twenty twenty five season.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
So so tennessee'son NFL team now.

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
I mean that's and that's where you know, I laid
out for a second, just for a dramatic effect, to
just finally get to what the hell.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
Are we doing here? Like, what are we doing college sports?
We don't have college sports anymore. They're pros. And you
could say what you want. I'm glad the kids get paid,
but there we're getting paid the wrong way. We're doing
it the wrong way. The idea of doing it is
right way. We got a guy who's under contract, hasn't
won it. I mean, good player, and there's but I
got news for her. Three years from now, there's gonna

(01:50:28):
be another NCO there or something there. Just is they're
all replaceable that they are now. I cannot believe We're
sitting here. A guy plays, has a solid year, got
a lot of talent, got paid a lot of money
coming out of school to go to school there, and
now wants to renegotiate while he's on campus, like this

(01:50:48):
is the NFL. Okay, So if he sucks the first
three weeks? Can I cut him? We should be able to,
you would think the NFL. Can I cut him? Can
I without and cut him? Scott Free? You're no longer
on Schott You gotta go do it Cho, You're not performing.
We've talked about that on the show. I cannot believe
that I'm reading this when I did this morning thinking
this dude's under contract at a college has more latitude

(01:51:12):
and bandwidth with money and to do what he wants
to demand that you either pay me or I'm leaving
as a scholarship, having already had nil money in his
pocket before this, and he's renegotiating or whether he's put
the threat on, the perception is well, if not, I'll
just leave. And he could literally tomorrow up and leave

(01:51:33):
and be starting for another program for fifteen million more
dollars next year. And when people say that's good, the
pros can do it no, they can't. They absolutely can't
do it. Neither can your coach. There's a buyout, and
as the NFL player, the NFL player, you don't show
up and we don't trade it and you just get fine.
You don't get to come. Let's start doing that, and
I would crush every single one of these. I'm no

(01:51:56):
longer I'm no longer team kid when it comes to
this anymore. I used to be coaches get the opportunity
with the buyout to go they're at their dream job
and leave again. I believe that if you get recruited
by that coach and in the first year he leaves
or two years, you can leave with the free transfer.
I'm okay with that because that's the guy who recruited.
Yet it's your first big decision. But we got I'm
no longer team kid, and I coach them, and I'm

(01:52:17):
no longer their team kid either. I coach them to
get him better, to have the opportunity to go get paid.
It doesn't mean I gotta like the system, love the kid,
hate the system. And if the kid's gonna milk the system,
then you'd better put your big boy pants on, because
I'm treating you if and the biggest mistake we're doing
is allowing Congress and government to jump into this decision.
Grown men at the table, what a clear cut dumb

(01:52:38):
ass idea. This is let government that can't run their
own nose run now a college football an aisle. They're
gonna screw this up even worse. So if you thought
it was bad, it will get worse. Republican, Democrat, all
of them together, I don't care keep government out of
sports because they will ruin it. I assure you that's
already been ruined. College football and college sports is no
longer college sports. And you can't tell me you have

(01:52:59):
the same feeling about it as you did, because guys
will walk across the street to go somewhere else with
no legacy. And they could have had fifteen people at
their alma mater been there and leave the and leave
for a dollar extra. I'm glad the kids get paid,
but I no longer feel sorry for the kid, any
of them. I know we should treat them just like

(01:53:19):
you do in real world labor. I can cut you.
You're gonna sign a contract, you're gonna have, You're gonna
I would make academic requirements. Put this one on him
that if they're not attaining a certain GPA and working
towards graduation, they can't collect an eye ol money, not
a dime of it. Put that on them. So to
make sure at least if I only got you for
a year or two, you're going to class or you're

(01:53:41):
not getting paid. And how this we say, it's not
hand to hand cash. You're full of crap. It is
hand to hand cash. We got a guy who's a
quarterback who is negotiating, whether negotiating while he's already on
scholarship and signed on the dot line to be his
letter of intended to be there, and he's there. But
now you can just I'm gonna leaf. Pros can't do that,

(01:54:02):
so don't tell me. Well the pros, no, they can't.
They cannot up and leave. If they do, there don't
get paid and they get fined. So start finding them,
Start putting a dollar fine on put a transfer like
a a what are the coaches? What is it called?
When you put a buyout on him, and also academic
requirements on him, and also be able to cut them

(01:54:23):
and put an nil salary cap so you can't go
get nico if you're over the cap and if you do,
you lose two scholarships a year. Start making it pros.
If you don't produce, I can cut you at the
water cooler. Sorry, and I don't feel one bit sorry
for you. Hopefully you invest your money. And this idea
of don't tax these kids on their money, Oh no,

(01:54:45):
right now, get if you get an nil money, you
better be prepared. If you're making five million, it's all
getting taxed. Not state tax because you live in Texas,
but if you live in a state tax, if you
live in California, your in iol money's getting taxed, and
it should. Don't give these kids that break. They're pros. Now,
you don't get the leeway of all we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna give you a break on it just because

(01:55:05):
you're nineteen. The nineteen year old makes more than the
quarterback coach does. He makes more than the coordinator does,
even some head coaches out performing a drop or peeing
a drop in the league. I'm not saying Nico he's
played a little bit, but he's still how many national
championship brings he got that? I mean, that's the point
that I was gonna get to. How many championship. So

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we're paying him on potential and kind of production, and
he gets to stop and renegotiate. I don't know the
kid from Adam, but the fact that they get to
do this. Listen, I'm talking to the coach, the kids
I coach. I'm gonna do everything I can to put
you in position to be successful. The way we got
it is wrong. And please don't ask me when you
come to me and say should I get transferred three

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or four times for more money, because I'm gonna give
you an answer you don't want to hear, especially if
you're not producing at the next level. We got it wrong.
Pay him, get him the right way. Got to regulate it.
Keep Congress out of it, because you'll be more screwed
than you already are. And I don't feel so I'm
no longer team kid when it comes to nil and
money and the kid because the kid can make, He

(01:56:06):
makes more than the coach, and he can transfer any
time he wants. The pros can't. So we're giving him.
You know what, does this make up for lost time?
Stop it? Just freaking stop it. So sorry. I'll coach
your kid as hard as I can, but if you're
asking me should he be able to transfer and get
money three different times, the answer is absolutely not. Well,
just it shows the wrong thing to do. That's not

(01:56:28):
good enough. Fire somebody else. I just this stuff that
you can stop down in the middle and negotiate while
you're under sky, while you're basically under contract, and still
demand more. Nah. Sorry, it's not a free enterprise. I'm
all for, but you don't get free enterprising when in
our job, if you decide to leave during a contract,

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you can't go work somewhere else for a for an
extended amount of time. It's called a non compete. And
people have him at all walks of life. But we're
gonna let an eighteen year old and makes more money
than the guy who's coaching, who's been in the business
and moves seven times to get his job at forty
save it. Say, I'm all for money regulated, and they
don't deserve more money than the head coach. Sorry, they

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don't go through some tough times, get kicked in the teeth.
Let him fail a little bit. And this is an embarrassment,
the fact that he can just renegotiate while he's on
scholarship and underneath there you know what I'd already start
looking for replacements. When a guy starts that, I'd start
saying he may bail on us, So be prepared to
put somebody in there, not just him, anybody. There's no
sacred cows. Manning's replaceable, Quinn Ewers is replaceable, Nico's replaceable.

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All of them are replaceable. If they weren't. Why did
Notre Dame and Will Howard at the Ohio State to
transfer quarterbacks? Why did they get the job? Because they're
not superstars, but they were more experienced and better than
the five star guy you paid eight million bucks to
who can't get on the field because you don't trust
him in a national championship game. How's that for perspective?
The guy who wasn't supposed to make a big dent

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to transfer kind of quarterbacks that are mid round type picks, right,
But man kg and can lead us? Well, where's the
five star for ten million dollars as a freshman? I
thought he was that good. He can't beat out a
transfer who's gonna play maybe in the NFL for a
handful of years. Yeah, save it. I'm no longer team
kid when it comes to anil period, And I'm sure
as hell, not team Congress to fix it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:20):
And for Nico, I would say that probably you want
this headline to come out if indeed you did go
out to Ohio State last year and win that game,
but you got smacked.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
Yeah, and he's a good player, and he may be
the one same I didn't do any of this. They
they're were you. I don't know adults. I don't nobody.
But if you have an agent, I can cut you.
That's the way I look at it. You've got an agent,
You're You're like the pros and the big boys that
I can treat you just like they treat your dad
or your mom. Hey man, you've underproduced. We're laying people off.

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You've had three games, but you've thrown three picks. I
either got to I'm asking you to take a pay cut,
or I'm gonna have to cut you and you can
go to class, but you're gonna have to pay for
it yourself, or transfer to another school. Then you go
ahead and leave. But if I over and then if
I got an nil where I got a salary cap,
now we keep him and he leaves on us, we're

(01:59:10):
gonna get doc scholarships. And then you got to pay,
buy out, treat him exactly like you do coaches. They
want big boy treatment, they want big boy money. Let
him have big boy circumstances and come to Jesus times.
I have no problem with it. And I don't feel
sorry for one eighteen year old kid that's getting paid
and it's transferred twice and then gets benched. I don't.
I have zero, zero sympathy for it. Either work harder,

(01:59:31):
work smarter, or find another profession. Sorry. And it is
a profession in college sports now period. So I love
the kids. I'm not team kid. When it comes to
you being able to leave and do whatever you want
anytime going, we got to put a stop to it.
College sports will never be what you want it to
be again ever, get used to it. It's pros.

Speaker 5 (01:59:51):
Reality comes for us all, that's for sure. In a
reality that we have in this business. Well, somebody in
the business found it out yesterday. We'll let you hear
that coming up right here, Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
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Speaker 2 (02:00:23):
Upgrade and salary. Good on him.

Speaker 5 (02:00:25):
You think now he's going to then go back to
the team and say, how about twenty million per.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
No, once he signs it, Yeah, guess what he doesn't
get to do? Oh he can sure go ahead and
then guess what you say is the front office? Take
your ass back downstairs. You put your gear on. We
got practice in an hour. You're under contract. Well, I
think I'm worth ten million more because well my agent
and I talked about it and said I should probably
get more. Well, you signed it. Well I'm going to

(02:00:51):
hold out. Okay, cool, matter of fact, you will you
leave your glove on the mountain for us, because we'll
have somebody else come out pick it up. He's replaceable too. Hey,
that's my helmet. That's right, that's exactly right. Oh it
was your helmet. Yeah, you're going to stay home. Okay, Well,
you're under contract, so that's about fifteen thousand a day.
Once containing training camp starts, and the other guy that
comes on the field, if he happens to play very well,

(02:01:12):
then that contract you just signed you'll never see. So see,
that's that's what you get to do when you're under contract.
That's big boy stuff. That's reality. Even though pro sports
money may not be reality, that's the reality of being.
And you've got about a ten year window that in
truth ninety percent don't ever hit. So go ahead, and
most of these guys that are battling for nil money

(02:01:32):
and doing this will never sniff great success in the NFL.
Some will, but the percentages are so low. What's that
commercial says? Hey, in ninety eight percent of the people
are going to go pro in something else other than sports,
and the ones that do go in sports will be
very lucky if they're able to get five years in.
So with this, yeah, pri Petrie can't can't leave, right,

(02:01:55):
So what a novel concept. But in college you can
under contract. I just get to go, ah, man, I'm
making ten million already in nil, but I'd like five
million more. Great, but you can't. Oh but I'm in
a transfer.

Speaker 7 (02:02:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
You can't do that either, because it's a ten million
dollar buy out because you're a starting quarterback at a
power for school. See, if you start to put that
on him, they'll shut up, get their ass to class
and perform. And you know what, just be like the
big boys, fit in, lead and do your thing and win.
That time's up. Will either cut you, you'll move on
somewhere else when your contract's done, because in two years
we may not want you anymore because there's been plenty

(02:02:27):
of five star guys that have come in and have
left underperforming. Yeah, listen, like I said, kids, and well,
I'd like both the coach the kids to win in
college football, to keep it real, get them paid. They
deserve it when they're selling their jersey. But now we've
gone completely jumped up. We we have completely gone to
the other end. Now I'm no longer team kid in

(02:02:49):
the money they get. Sorry, I'm just not.

Speaker 5 (02:02:51):
Yeah, Jalen Peatrie will be their first day of training camps,
so you can count on that, and he's can be
even happier because.

Speaker 2 (02:02:57):
Yeah, he'll show up in the first week. He won't
threaten to transfer because he wants to go play football
and earn his money, not get it on potential. Yeah,
what a novel concept.

Speaker 5 (02:03:05):
I would I would assume the knock on Demiko Ryan's
door is going to be hey, you know, third down
thinking about doing this, It's it's not going to be hey,
coach you know this. I don't think Dimiko is gonna
have to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
I can't wait till somebody when a kid comes in
and does that or wants to renegotiate that, the coach
laughs at him, say do whatever you want, dude, And
then that day at practice, the backup five star or
three star gets all the reps. Well, what are you doing?
I'm the starter? No, no, no, we got to work.
We got to protect ourselves. You've already told us that
if it's not negotiations, you're going to take a different

(02:03:38):
look at maybe going cool, Joe Jones, you're the starting quarterback.
Go get your reps in. Oh, man, what a great practice, too,
great practice? All what he threw? Well, go to UNLV.
How'd that work out for that? I know he's not
a five, So how'd that work out for that guy
that you're four?

Speaker 12 (02:03:54):
And oh?

Speaker 2 (02:03:54):
When he leaves because he wants more money, and then
they go on in there bull eligible, not only bull eligible,
but in the hut to be playing in the final
in the playoff. That guy left and I don't even
know the guy's name to this day, and he'll never
sniff Sundays on a regular basis, So go ahead, no problem,
because what's behind you is eventually what's going to lead us.

(02:04:16):
It just may come sooner than later. So I can't
wait till a quarter coach has the balls to say, really, okay,
is that what you're gonna do? Well, guess what you're
now third on the depth chart. Well, I'm making fifteen
million in anil, but you're going to possibly leave. I'm
going to get somebody else ready to play because I
don't trust you're going to be here. Give them a
taste of the real pro reality medicine. Give it to them.

(02:04:39):
They want the money, Give it to them. Like I said,
my sympathy levels with these kids are zero now, whether
I coach them or whether I don't. And guess who
I'm coaching? The ones want to be there and if
it cost me my job a well, if you're a coach.

Speaker 5 (02:04:54):
Chappelle's show how a segment keeping it real when it
goes wrong, and well some people might find that out
all right. Something speaking of going wrong, that happened on
another radio show, that has happened here numerous times.

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Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
He's at eight under. Sean, We've had some interesting moments
here on the show when it comes to the audience
calling in. And we love our audience, We love our callers,
everybody of the sort. Hopefully you have as equally a
love for us as we do for you. But we've
also run in the situations before where, you know, we
had somebody recently call in and we call on them,

(02:06:23):
Hey you're on the air, and hey, I'm getting my coffee.

Speaker 2 (02:06:27):
Okay, well, well we'll go ahead, and you know not
wait for now. You just give us a shout back later.

Speaker 5 (02:06:34):
We've also we've had somebody else before that I'm pretty
sure was probably getting a latte or doing something. It's
not like they were in a place that they were
getting their coffee at well. I don't think that we've
ever had what happened on the Paul Fine Bomb Show yesterday.
So Paul, of course, caller driven show. We know about that.
You know, Phyllis and Mulga, all these other people. You know,

(02:06:55):
Bama fans yelling at each other, Auburn fans yelling at
each other. That's what the show is. But listen to
this situation that Paul happens upon it yesterday when he
calls on someone who, let's just say, was preoccupied.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
Slammer is up there?

Speaker 7 (02:07:10):
I lost.

Speaker 2 (02:07:12):
And I was doing real good. Slammer is there? Just
started going Slamor is next? Slammer? Are you there? I
think we unfortunately tuned into a kolonaskay live on the air.

(02:07:34):
There we'll take a short break here.

Speaker 5 (02:07:37):
At the doctor's office, probably talking with the PA or
you know, the nurse practitioner whoever written aty for the
doctor in tunity up in the doctor because.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
Hey, Paul, but how the time will be this year?
What do you say? Normal? Yeah? Normal? Hey, what's his name? Slammer? Slammer. Well,
now let's take it to the next level. Imagine he's
getting a prostate check. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Hey you
got down there, lean against that table, arch your back
and throw that Get on your toes and throw that

(02:08:09):
ass in here. Get on your toes. And the guy's
got hands in size of Javan curse. So when he
when he gives you a prostate check, he's also checking
for a dog on if you need a throat culture
at the same time, what use the whole fist there, doctor?
Oh yeah, or you get the one where it's the
the nurse and it's like, hey, man, I don't think

(02:08:30):
you got that right. Could you do that again? Yeah? Yeah,
so there you go. Uh cold osky. We getting coldosky.
There could have been so many other things that he
could have been doing. No not yeah there cough and
by now grab your ankles. Yeah, here we go and
hang on, let me put that in. You hear the
glove being put on. Here, the glove being put on,

(02:08:51):
How is it? Well? This is and then you hear
the guy saying, because what do we all Well, can't
I just take the blood the p s a you know,
take the blood part? Well, no, we can tell a
little better when we can get in there and and
move around. Great. Great, And I've told you that story
my doctor. Before my appendix, I had appendici. I was
laying in bed and it was when I was in

(02:09:12):
working in television, and it was laying in bed. I
couldn't One night I woke up, I couldn't move and
I and you know when under those under duress like that,
you can't remember it's my pinis on my right or
left side. So in the middle of the night I
called my family doctor and woke him up and said,
we're appendix again. I guess I could have looked at
a phone. He goes, well, we'll tell you. Tell me
what's going on. I told him. He goes, you got
a pinix. You got to get to the doctor in

(02:09:34):
the morning. The second you get up in the morning,
got to go. And so I slept and you sleep
on can't move right, So a little nervous wake up
in the morning. And he sent me to Yale Hospital.
When I was in Connecticut, and my other and the
doctor who I had to see before I went, and
so he recommended go to him. So he sends him
to me, and he's a little guy. And I walked

(02:09:54):
in there before I went, and they said, you got
to get in because you don't want your appinix to burst,
because it's a lot worse. So I'm I'm headed in.
I go to him and I got to get a
prostate check and he looks at me. I look at
him and I've had and he did just a just
a little guy, and he I looked at I said,
do I really got to do this again? He said, yeah,
you got to do it. And then we got to
get you to Yale Hospital. And so I did that

(02:10:15):
and I said, well, doc, you know I just can
I get a PSA the regular blood test. He goes, no,
we got to check just what I sold. You got
to feel around and I said, man, I'm so thankful
your hands aren't big, you know, because that's all I could.
I'm that's serious and he and I and I and
I looked at mine and I said, aren't you glad
I'm not your doc? And he goes, yes, I am,

(02:10:36):
And he gave you a prostate check. It zip to
the Yelle hospital. They didn't burst, and I was fine.
And literally I walk in there and the doctors and
the nurse are both a female and they're both you know,
you're like, oh again, you know you got to go through.
But yeah, I looked at his and I said, so,
I imagine that guy's going through the Thame thing. It
could have been a lot different phone call had it
have been the prostate check as opposed to just a

(02:10:57):
questionnaire on the cole and Osky. How's your bomb movement?
I'm a little I'm a little backed up there, Doc, Yeah, classic,
Well just so, just so, now the rest of the
audience knows that Slammer is up on his health. Yeah,
he's he's there. Bowel movements are good. Yeah, everything's good.
Check up. Hey. By the way, uh, you guys want
to talk Alabama football? Yeah? Exactly what are where Slammers located?

(02:11:20):
Did they ever say they probably.

Speaker 5 (02:11:22):
Had it on the screen, Yeah, Slammer and I say
he was in Alabama?

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
I I I'm not sure. But now do the females
right now? Now do the female check? Yeah, Hey, that
was the stirrups. Could you widen them a little bit? Hey, Doc?
We got yeah, now, yeah, you could think about it.
There's a lot of football female football fans. Hey, you're on, uh, Slammer, Well,
it doesn't work here, but yeah, could you? Yeah, where's

(02:11:51):
those what do they call those? The the the doctor
uses with the female what do they call clamps? Uh,
they're clamps, So there's there different name. Thank you, Yeah,
grab me the fourceps. Hey doc, Uh, you're on with
you're you're on with faull fine bomb. Well, and the
doctor starts talking about yeah, a little wider. Yeah, here

(02:12:12):
we go and start to look down here. Oh we
got everything's clean down here. No thanks, and I would
not Well, women have it a lot tougher than we do,
oh a thousand percent, God bless him, a lot tougher
than we do. Now. I mean for us, it's just
a simple finger, and you know, just a simple finger. Well,
I mean you know, the comparison for them would be
the catheter and that uh yeah, that'll give you a

(02:12:35):
six times if you know, if if somebody just threw
up their breakfast, and say, if you got to turn
a cough every once in a while, and it's to
your point.

Speaker 7 (02:12:42):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:12:42):
There was a doctor that uh he'd uh operated on
my brother's ankle when he broke it a few years ago.
And our nickname for him was Lurch because I mean
he was just this huge guy with massive hands. I
just lottle kid my elbow at the Astros baseball camp.
He was the guy to put it back in place.
So good thing that that guy went into orthopedics.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
So not personal prostate check doctor, Yeah no, thanks, yeah, yeah,
why don't you just take a dog on well the
new baseball the torpedo bat. Yeah, I don't need that
for my prostate check. Thanks, I'm good. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:13:15):
Yeah, and it's also too. I mean, look, you know,
like I said, we love the audience, but just you know,
let's just go ahead and put some ground rules out here.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
I mean, when you call, be ready for us to say.

Speaker 5 (02:13:25):
If you're if you're in the parking lot number one,
we don't have to know where you are, but number two.
Once you enter into the doctor's office, then let's make
it a safe sea.

Speaker 2 (02:13:34):
Call tomorrow. There you go, call tomorrow, there you go.
Everybody's for everybody's good, guests say, although it's it's good,
that makes for good banter across the country. I'm sure
on radio shows that guys getting his diet and fine
bombs talking to guys getting a colonosk.

Speaker 5 (02:13:48):
You know, even at the dentist office. You know they're
they're about to go in the to fill you know. Uh,
you know John on the west side, you know you
hear hold on, hold on, hold on for a second,
takes off the Hey.

Speaker 2 (02:13:59):
Uh, yeah, what's going on, guys? I want to talk
some doc. Can you wait? Yeah? I got a good
idea tomorrow the show's on again. We can talk tomorrow
about sports. Get that tooth fixed. There you go, yeah, no,
there you go.

Speaker 5 (02:14:09):
And you know, and if you want to call it,
if you want to call in maybe you know, under
the influence still of the laughing gas.

Speaker 2 (02:14:15):
And we'll take you there. There we go. Yeah, funny.
If we're gonna do it, let's make sure he may
not have fun get it, but we're gonna have fun
at your expense with the laughing gas, have no doubt
about it.

Speaker 5 (02:14:24):
Hey, I can see you guys in the studio. Is
that is that making mouse dancing above your I think
the laughing gas is still.

Speaker 2 (02:14:30):
There, Bud. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, we're all good in here.
Keep your finger on the dump button. That's it. Tripley
is always ready back there, that is for sure. All right, Uh,
coming up, let's get back into some astros. Conversation because
these guys, boy, it'd be really nice if they get
going and get going soon. We'll talk about them right here.
Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
The Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 2 (02:14:54):
Al on the south side. Good morning, now, what's going on?
What's going on?

Speaker 12 (02:14:59):
Dance?

Speaker 2 (02:15:00):
What's going on?

Speaker 12 (02:15:00):
Shan?

Speaker 2 (02:15:01):
All good, man, all good, Thank you already.

Speaker 12 (02:15:05):
Man. I appreciate just real quick two points, Shun. I
appreciate the Texans get out of that old school mentality
award and these good players having an eye test, Shun.
You notice for guys that can command your organization and
be great football players on the field and off the field.
Shout out the future, Shun. I'ma ask you a question.

(02:15:26):
I'm gonna take it back. I know you remember the
old school talks we said, Brian and you and me
about the old school talk about football. You know we
had one before. I'm gonna ask you a question.

Speaker 8 (02:15:35):
I'm gonna take you.

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
Back, Shun.

Speaker 12 (02:15:37):
You got Albert haines Worth, you got this mother guy
named you got guys on your front. That's that's that's
gonna push Albert haynes Worth.

Speaker 2 (02:15:50):
You got.

Speaker 12 (02:15:51):
I got Orlando Pace on the offense. I got basically
the hogs up front on my offensive line. All the
hogs those that don't Old Washington commanders out our Redskins
front line, shun and you got you got some big
guys up front. Jim Burt Hange worked like I say,
big run stoppers. Maybe refrigerated perio or whatever bench wood

(02:16:14):
for shunk. One point nine ceconds on the clock, super Bowl,
one point nine seconds on the clock. We downed by three,
were down by four. It's fourth and one, one point
nine circles on the clock inside the one quarterback whoever.
But it's a whole school run play. Shun, I got,
Earl Kemp, I'm giving the ball. Give it your take.

(02:16:36):
Who win that battle? Show that a good weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:16:38):
Well the guys you with the guys you named, if
I if my offensive line you named? Who do you
say was his offensives the Redskins back in the day
with the big jo Jakobe and uh that group and
Earl Campbell's in the backfield. Hell, you could give me

(02:16:58):
and you and all the two guards in the center,
and Earl's getting any end zone. Okay? That jim Bert
and love Jim great player Albert haynes Worth. Jim Bert
against Earl Campbell. My money's on the Guy War thirty four.
I can't remember if it was Carl Redskins up front
with him, with Jacoby and Russ Grimm.

Speaker 5 (02:17:20):
I mean dated reference of course, so Carl Mack obviously
a former Oilers lineman during the Lovely Blue Days. I
think it was him that somebody had asked him once
what was it like to block for Earl? And he said,
you have a train track near your house and the
guy answered yeah. He goes, go stand next to it
when a freight train comes through. He goes, That's that's
what it was like. And remember Earl Campbell wasn't just

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a big bruiser. Earl Campbell had home run hitter world
class speed. He was like a nine something ten hundred
yard He could flat out fly at two twenty. One
of the coolest interviews I ever did was when Derrick
Henry was at Alabama. And of course, you know, whenever
you get a chance like that, Oh, who are your inspirations?

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
Who do you? He said?

Speaker 5 (02:17:57):
Earl Campbell. I go, dude, you're you're about ten years
younger than me. Like, how do you know? He goes YouTube,
he goes, somebody told me to go watch YouTube and
they said, you're pretty much Earl Campbell, And yeah, I
mean I would say probably the modern day comparison is
that guy.

Speaker 2 (02:18:12):
Yeah, you'll learn a lot watching a guy like that
play football. So Al, your answer is the Hogs up
front with Earl Campbell in the backfield. I really don't
care who the defensive front is there. I'm getting at
the one yard line one point nine. I'm putting my
money thinking that Earl's going to find a way is
find his way into the end zone there is handed
to him.

Speaker 5 (02:18:30):
There are certain human beings that you see in person,
Sean that you're like, how is that possible? Dereck Henry
is one of those guys. I remember me and my
buddy we were out in Buckhead in Atlanta, and he goes,
is that Derrick Henry?

Speaker 2 (02:18:41):
And he goes, how is he that large?

Speaker 8 (02:18:43):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:18:43):
Yeah, and a running back getting one hundred and fifty
hudred running away from people. Yeah, Derrick Henry is the equivalent.
I mean, in truth, I'm trying to think of the
comparison Joe Well. He is an edge rusher, bigger than
Michael Parsons, probably h taller for sure, bigger than than

(02:19:04):
will Anderson James. Oh, there's no question. Yeah, I don't
care if they listen him at two twenty he's six
four or tall maybe six five. Yeah, maybe maybe we
might be cheating because I he's my height and he's
about he's got to be an M and M away
from two fifty five. He's a running mountain. He is
an outside linebacker that can run as a running back.
And that's what we're dealing with now. So when you

(02:19:25):
see him on TV, it's one thing because all those
guys are big with pads on, they look bigger when
he walks. It's like when you see a point guard
and you say, oh, he's not real and he's a
six six point guard and you say, guy, you look
like yeah, because the guy's guarded me six eight or
seven foot right, And the same thing here. I'm just
telling you, Derrick Henry is a the size of a
linebacker that if he walked into any building in the

(02:19:47):
country and you said, oh, that guy's a football player
who and they didn't know him, they said, well, what
did you play linebacker? No, I'm a running back. That's
fun fullback. No, I'm a running back. And I actually
got wiggling secondary and can outrun some of the guys
who try to tackle me. And when you say that,
people say that hyperbolic. I'm telling you now, you will

(02:20:07):
never believe that he is a running back when you
walk in, when you see him in person, that's how
massive he is. And it's it's inhuman because you're not
supposed to be that big, able to run that well
and be that that elusive, looking like you could play
linebacker if they needed to fill in. That's it's crazy,

(02:20:28):
it is, and it's it makes you shake your head.
There are times I've heard guys say this insane with
me about three years out of football, when you stand
on the sidelines and just three years after you retire,
you still I still got game. I'd go back and play.
And then you go down on the sidelines and watch
the game live and you're like, because once you've stepped
away from that, brother, it's hard. And then you start
to see defensive ends that are running down running backs.

(02:20:50):
You're like, okay, this is we're in a different world
doing it in a different world.

Speaker 5 (02:20:55):
Guys about three ten and he's going east to west, presenting.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
The quality of foot balls better. But I can just
tell you this Back in the day, we didn't have
linebackers that were playing running back. We had guys like
Earl Campbell Ward's six four sixty five that run you over.
Every every generation has them, but you're dealing with a
different a different level of cap these days. And Dereck

(02:21:20):
Henry is one of them for sure.

Speaker 5 (02:21:21):
The only other player that I would say that when
I saw in person that still every single time I
see them in person, I'm like, how is that person
this large shack?

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
Oh? Yeah, Well, let me give you a little perspective
on that. I'm standing at the National Championship game we're playing.
Remember when line it? When we kicked it, I mean
we beat uh was it Ohio State? Fifty five? Within
the National Championship in Florida? In Oklahoma? That's you know
what I was saying about Jason White. Jason White was
the Who'd I say, wasn't Ohio State? Exactly? Was Jason

(02:21:53):
White in Oklahoma? It was like fifty five fifteen whatever
the score? That's exactly right. And Jason White was a
quarter who the year before had won the Heisman Trophy.
And who I'm standing there on the sidelines, true, I'm
sixty five two fifty big guy next to Tony Bisselli,

(02:22:13):
who's bigger than I am, as people here know, next
to Anthony Munos who's trimmed down to the extremely large humbion.
And Shaq was standing next to us three on the
same side, and it literally went short small to tall.
It's bigger right tall to be enormous. It's almost like
one of those Russian nests. Alls and shack shack is

(02:22:34):
so much fun, right, what you see is what you
get to use. He's a say and on the sideline.
He's on our sideline, loving it rootin And in the
second half, I'm standing like thirty yards from him, but
I caught his eye and we I mean, we're we're
curb stopping him. He looks already gives me the slash
like this game's over, right and laughing. Right, I'm having
a blast. But he made Anthony Munjos and Biselli. Yeah,

(02:22:56):
I know, he made me look small. He made Anthony,
Munjos and Besselli two Hall of Famers and two enormous
human beings. And Moon is a big dude, look like
they were kid brothers with three generations skipped. You know
that just aren't that they're young that they haven't reached
their grossper yet, and it was it was he could
have he could have had a drink off Munnos's head

(02:23:19):
and Moon's not small, no, but and that's not hyperbolic,
and you're exactly right. And then I took it to
another level. What's the great colleague? Yeah, when we did
longest job. Yeah, there has never been a human being
in my life that I've seen he dwarf Shack. Dude,
he was about he was like three seventy but you
could see his abs. He like had a six pack abs.

(02:23:40):
And he was such a gentle guy. He come up
and shake your head, the two handed handshake guy. Yeah,
and I got big hand dude. He took me. He
shook my hand and I could have put both my
hands stacked on top of each other and he still
would have been able to squeak. I mean out grip
me as far as size goes. And I'm like, this
is the biggest human and that's such a sweetheart of
a guy. But he made Shack look like Shaq was

(02:24:05):
his kid brother that hadn't hit his grosspert yet. That
is the largest human being I've ever seen in my
life that I stood next to and it's the kindest
heart there ever was. But dude, his hands were his
hands could have grabbed a basketball with his pinky finger
and his thumb and it would have been like a
nerf ball. It was unbelievable. So those humans out there,

(02:24:25):
But you're right about Shack. It's like, and how does
Munios and Biselli look small? Right? And he made him
look small And there's no there may not be a
funner guy on the planet when you just want Shack's
a twelve year old that's in a human body, and
that's a compliment. I love him, man, freaking love that guy. Yeah.
I was on a flight once with a great colleague
and you think, how he can't fit? Dude, he is

(02:24:47):
he not. I don't know if you suck, if you
could tell sitting out how he was crunched down the
entire time. And you still look how big he is
and he's finah and like I said, shirt off and stuff,
it's like, that's a big dude. Now.

Speaker 5 (02:24:57):
My only regret was when I walked past him as
I wanted to say, I'll play.

Speaker 2 (02:25:02):
That's exactly get it, that's exactly Oh he'd got it. Yeah, Yeah,
fun guy, man and good people, but an enormous human being.
What a fun set man, Oh dude, Like I said,
what a blessing it was to be part of it,
but just to just to sit back and observe, aside
from being there laugh with him, I sit back and
observe saying that guy's hilarious. I love that guy. And
Chris Rock's killing me and Nellie's can really run as

(02:25:24):
a running back, and Collie's the biggest human being in
the world, and Sandler's making fun of everybody, and it
was just you want to talk about one of the
great blessings of life, like you were completely out of place,
but you fit in. But you're because he wanted to,
but completely out of place, said man, don't. I didn't
deserve this blessing. But I am going to milk it
for every step I can and enjoy every step of
the way. Some of the greatest times I've ever had

(02:25:45):
have been around his group of people. It's like Brucey
Nick Detro in the movie.

Speaker 12 (02:25:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:25:50):
He told us last year and we had him on
when the Yankees were in town, that he just went
in to use the bathroom there at then minute made
and the entire bathroom Bruce.

Speaker 2 (02:25:59):
Oh yeah, how do you not love it? How do
you not love it? He was, he was awes the warriors.
Warriors come out to play that guy. You know, I
can't even remember I just call him that guy. I
can't even remember his name to this day. But it's
just those are when you get good people around. That's
the Hollywood stuff that you know most of the time
it's a turn off, right, but what you see is

(02:26:20):
what you get with a lot of those guys we've
talked about, which makes me which which is a really
cool thing. And and Sadler creates that he won't honestly,
he doesn't want people around that are going to be
act like stars. Does that make sense? And he doesn't.
If the big dog isn't going to act like one,
then why the hell would anybody else? Exactly, And he

(02:26:40):
creates such a great environment. It was one of the
great times of my life and blessings just to be
able to just to be a part of it. It was
cool man, good friend, good friends made, and good friends lasted. Right,
It's a really cool thing. And you never know when
those friends are going to come around. It's like this
is this is some friendships that I never would have expected,
and all the great things, the money gets spent, all that,
but those those memories priceless for me, absolutely, and I

(02:27:04):
don't need the memorability that goes with it. I just
did just the laughs that we had. I'm like, man,
How'm I part of this? You cats are all stars
and I shouldn't be here, but I'm taking it. You're
stupid enough to invite me. I'm stupid enough to stay.
So those good times.

Speaker 5 (02:27:16):
Man, Hey, just enjoy the Ryewall's exactly right, brother, that's
for sure. John on the northwest Side, see you right there.
We'll get into a little bit of Texans also to
the Astros conversation that I teased, will get that in
before we close it up here on a Friday Shawn
Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:27:34):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues.

Speaker 5 (02:27:38):
Back into the Astros conversation shortly, but John on the
northwest Side wants to weigh in.

Speaker 13 (02:27:44):
Good morning, John, Hey, fellas, fellas, you know, there's an
old saying. Man, you know, you can't up the club
if you're always.

Speaker 2 (02:27:52):
In the tub. You know.

Speaker 13 (02:27:53):
I like I like Jalen Peach and Kristin Harris when
they have their plane. But hell, they ain't been a
just they healthy since they you know, since they was
drafted and signed here. That's a real concern for me,
and it's probably a concern for Nick Caserio and the
Miko Rimes. I mean, that's a man that's a tough
one right there. Man, I'm gonna listen to what.

Speaker 2 (02:28:15):
Yeah, John, thank you appreciate John. I think so, and
I think that position, that position is filled with it's
almost I treat strong safeties free safeties, in particularly strong
safety who can play box safety and the nickel can cover.
You know, I treat them like because he's got, as
we see, blatant disregard for his body. I mean that affectionally.
He'll hit anything that moves. I've seen guys like that.

(02:28:37):
Chuck Cecil when I played Hell Pullamalaho was like that.
He's a thicker version, right, But that position in one Listen,
if you get ten twelve years out of those guys,
that's it, you know what. I treat those like a
running back shelf life. I know that they're they're going
balls to the wall and they are going to empty
the bucket on everybody. Matter of fact, sometimes they even
knock their own player out because they're going so hard

(02:28:58):
to hit. So I would think probably Bob Sanders. You know,
those guys who man you milk it for everything you
can get. You hope that they're a little bit lucky
injury wise, but you know they've got a shoulder in
there and they got to and their job is to
knock cats out and cover him and once you cover him,
to knock them out again. So John, I completely understand.

(02:29:19):
Of course. I think you're always concerned now corners, the hammies,
the soft tissue stuff, because they're fast and there and
they're not a lot of times involved in the run game.
Some are physical, but those guys have got to deal
with linemen coming out, an h BAC, a tied end,
all those things that go with it, and you're paid
to hit. So the shelf life for those guys, you

(02:29:39):
hope it's longer. But in truth, if you get ten
years out of a guy of quality football out of
a guy like Petrie who's blatant disregard, you'll take that
six ways to Sunday and twice on Sunday, you know
what I mean. So John, I do get it, and
I think that's something you're going to be concerned, oh,
miss the game because he nicked his shoulder or tore
you know, twisted an ankle because he got caught at
the bottom of pile after he knocked the hell out

(02:29:59):
of the tight end. So yes, I think that's a
concern that you'll always have. But think like a running
back shelf life, you're you may not get. You know,
look what happened to the Rod Woodson's play corner and
he come in and playing the slot, and eventually he
and Charles Woodson in what playing free safety where they
can ballhalk and do it all. And so you should
preserve their career. But right now, if Petrie's a guy

(02:30:20):
who's gonna get, he's gonna he's made his career and
the reputation already about being a guy that's always around
the football and going to knock the hell out of you.
So you just got to approach it like you're not
treating like a slot receiver that's playing fourteen years. You're
treating it like if you get ten out of a
guy like that, ten quality years, that's been a hell
of a run for a hard hitting safety. I think
the Jalen Petrie deserves the money but you're always going

(02:30:42):
to be concerned because how those guys hit.

Speaker 5 (02:30:45):
Forty four career games in the NFL. You missed a
couple in twenty three and missed about five of them.

Speaker 2 (02:30:51):
See to me that if you miss in that in
those games, if you're missing two a year. I hate
to say it, but at that position, you almost feel
like that is durable. Right, fourteen to fifteen games a year,
I can. I can live with that just because of
how physical they have to be. And you're a two
hundred plus pounder. Petrie's got a weigh what two five
two o five to ten, maybe two hundred pounds, He's right,

(02:31:15):
two hundred pounds, So think about what your cup. Running
Backs are bigger than you. Tight ends are bigger than
everybody that comes at you. Receiver with six five two
twenty Nico Collins, Nico Collins is a full grown ass man.
When you're talking about dealing with the Petrie size wise, yeah, ways,
and so we're dealing in a different world. And those
guys don't get paid to run from contact, So you're

(02:31:37):
just gonna have to deal with it. Unfortunately, that's the
nature of what is a not aggressive, not physical, it
is a violent game and Petree plays violent football and Sean,
if you're doing it right, this isn't a charity case.

Speaker 5 (02:31:48):
This isn't a Hey, I like the guy, I'm gonna
give them fifty million dollars.

Speaker 2 (02:31:51):
You're doing it right.

Speaker 5 (02:31:52):
You're giving a guy that money because you say that's
that's Tamiko ryans in with Nick Assario and the McNair's saying, hey,
I need this guy.

Speaker 2 (02:31:59):
I count on this guy. Well, the general manager that
he used to work for, John Lynch, was that guy.
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, he understands the physicality,
you know the job description. Put it this way, I
got if I got a strong safety nickel type that's
around the line of scrimmage on a regular basis, and
he goes out, He goes a career without that. He's

(02:32:21):
not hurt or banged up on a regular basis. Banged
you know, playing hurt a lot. The first game's over,
you're playing hurt the whole time. What was he not doing?
My answer is maybe I got to get a different
a different nickel or strong safety because he ain't active
enough when it comes to people coming downhill to knock
him in his mouth. So there is that. Oh yeah,
I think maybe I'll just deal with They understand the

(02:32:42):
shelf life as well, but you also understand the attitude
he brings. You got to have those guys. The blatant
disregard for their body is the first thing. It's likely.
I need a nasty offensive lineman. I need a free safety.
Is not afraid or a strong safety? Should I say
free safety? Same way, but they're more ball hawk right
away from the line of scrimmage. I need a strong safety.
It's not afraid to come up and knock the living

(02:33:02):
hell out of you when you outwigh him by fifty pounds.
Even if he doesn't make the tackle, he's disrupting the play.
I think Petrie's got a lot of that in him.
Definitely does.

Speaker 5 (02:33:11):
He gets there with bad intentions, There's no doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (02:33:13):
All right.

Speaker 5 (02:33:14):
Coming up next, we'll get into a little bit of
the astros discussion, especially with this offense, but also is
Tiger Woods and Tom Brady getting me closer to realizing
one of my fears. We'll talk about that right here
before we close it up here on the Sewn Salisbury Show,
Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:33:32):
The most refreshing way to start your.

Speaker 4 (02:33:35):
Day, shower, shave and Sean, they're done.

Speaker 2 (02:33:41):
The courtesy flush is always appreciated. Thank God, thank the
good Lord.

Speaker 1 (02:33:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 10 (02:33:46):
From the management team here at Sports Talk seven ninety
back to Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 5 (02:33:53):
I understand that Dyke in Park has not been it
has not been kind to them at the plate. But
this weekend, let's let's snap out of it. Let's get
it going this weekend. Do you want a power search?

Speaker 2 (02:34:04):
I love a power search. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, if I
told you for three games they were going to average
eight runs a game but give up six pitching staff,
or they were going to win two of the three
three to one and lose one three to one. Which
way would you go?

Speaker 5 (02:34:20):
I'd go to eight six because I mean, at least
the pitching has been there. I've seen it, and I mean,
say the other day was standing. It's been really good
for you.

Speaker 2 (02:34:27):
You win, you win two games at eight and six,
eight to six, and lose the third one nine to seven. Absolutely,
Or you win two games three to one and lose
the third one four to one. Give me the runs,
really give me the runs. Okay, you think because you
think the pitching, the pitching will come back quicker than

(02:34:50):
the bats.

Speaker 5 (02:34:50):
What you're saying, yeah, because I mean I've got some
injuries to my pitching staff. It's it's understandable. Eric Getty's
out still waiting on land.

Speaker 2 (02:34:56):
It's almost just for the optics and the feelings of Okay,
now the bats of a wa and they're going to
be around. The pitching will take care of itself. We're
not going to live there or take I take it back.
The bats are awakened. The pitchers giving up nine or
eight runs as an aberration is the way you feel
there because the habit, the trend has been not scoring
a lot of runs the last two years, right or

(02:35:16):
last year and this year should I say two seasons
and this one going in so it would be a
season plus this. Whereas pitching, you feel like the eight
or nine runs, if they gave it up in a
three game series, would just be one of those three
games and they'll come back out of it. That's it
fair enough. Yeah, And there's been more consistency with the
pitching staff of being good than there has been with
consistent run scoring over the last year and a month

(02:35:39):
or whatever it's been.

Speaker 5 (02:35:40):
See, and I'm not asking for great out of this lineup.
I'm just asking for good and that's what we have
not been getting. I mean, that's been the problem, and
that's why you lost those two games last year.

Speaker 2 (02:35:50):
You couldn't hit. You need twenty twenty five proof that
the slugging's there. Bingo, fair, bingo. I mean, I got
a couple of guys on none of this. Hey, they
both scored on a two run single. Hey, how about
all three of them scored on a three run homer.

Speaker 5 (02:36:03):
The bases are loaded, all three of those guys came
home because someone putting one down the left field line.

Speaker 2 (02:36:08):
Like that. That's what I need. So what's al Toovey
lead the team at home runs? Yeah? He leaves pretty
much into everything. Yeah, that that's I mean, hits the
whole thing. But he's leading the team at home runs
right now, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Three, Yeah,
Jordan's got one, He's got one, yeah, the one in Minnesota.
Walker's still got one. Yeah, huh. Two for Pania yep,
and Pania has two of them, but still hitting under

(02:36:31):
two hundred, I think, isn't he Yeah right, he's like
the rest of it. Yeah, so yeah, it would be
that that surge would be kind of nice. I get,
I get. I get your thought process on why the
runs are more important to you than keeping runs down
for the pitching staff, because we've seen the history of
the pitching staff is that they're going to be fine. Right.
I'm actually see how con Mucho Gusto pitches this week? Yeah,

(02:36:55):
very good there in the Sean Salisbury show means street
to Asco, you learn a lot, brother, of course, I'm
anxious to see how he Okay, scenario he lights out,
He's lights out, so then he gets and he gets
a second one. It's a good problem to have, and

(02:37:15):
he lights out, Now what well, then suddenly who gets
the first? Because this is like the way the way
Dana explained it to you and me on Wednesday when
I asked him about Spencer Arraghetti, he said six weeks
and then we'll reevaluate, which tells me two months, right,

(02:37:37):
two and a half months probably. Okay, that's a lot
of starts. What happens if Gusto said, if they proves
that he is the Gusto Gusta, I've heard it. He
calls him Gusta. You call him Gusto, right, Yeah, Because
I hear the TV and radio right, So either way Gusto,
if he Dana calls him Gusta, I think is why he.

Speaker 12 (02:37:58):
So?

Speaker 2 (02:37:58):
If if that's yeah, exactly, we played the sound. If
he's lights out, what happens? How do you do? How
do you do? The five man? You create yourself a problem?
So does Spencer or Ronel Blanco, depending on Blanco's success
until then and Aragetty's rehab and coming in. Are they

(02:38:19):
bullpen guys? Now one of them the bullplank Blanco to
the pen? Thanks, it would be Blanco? Okay, yeah, he's
done it. You know the truth is you want that problem?
Oh yeah, yeah, then then you want the problem because
the truth you already know. Gusto can go back to
the bullpen. But if he's that good on the starting rotation,
it's gonna be tough to keep him off there. But
we're gonna get a chance to see it, aren't we.
It's it's like, what days he's still getting the start

(02:38:40):
this week? Gusto tomorrow? It's Saturday? Okay, he gets it
on Saturday tomorrow, and then I think was Nesky on
Sunday and he closes out the series before they go
to Saint Louis on a day game before they get
away and go play in Saint Louis. There, you go
take care of business this weekend real quick.

Speaker 3 (02:38:55):
Here.

Speaker 5 (02:38:55):
That Colossal Biosciences, you know, the ones that created the
dire walls.

Speaker 2 (02:38:59):
This you're telling me what you were talking about?

Speaker 5 (02:39:01):
Yeah, you know who two of their biggest investors are
Tom Brady and Tiger Woods.

Speaker 2 (02:39:06):
Brady and Woods. Are they trying to recreate those two?
So they're they're.

Speaker 5 (02:39:10):
Basically going to create what was it what was it
in the terminator to uh sky Skynett? Yeah, it's gonna
be Skynet for animals.

Speaker 2 (02:39:18):
And if those two are appreciate your in it or
we being are we to the point where thinking they're
going to try to maybe recreate a Tiger Woods, Tom
Brady Tiger's trying to help recreate that that Achilles so well,
I can tell you one thing. They're gonna make a
lot of money. Yeah, good for them.

Speaker 5 (02:39:34):
I don't hate them for it, just hopefully pay doesn't
become real.

Speaker 2 (02:39:37):
I don't know if I like the result of it.
But the way they're to make the money not a
bad gig by them. Smart smart move, but you got
money so I takes money to make money. If the
animals do rise up against us, you know who to blame. Yeah, well,
those animals usually ends up that they take the guys
that invested out first. So there you go, there you go,
there you go. You know, I'm on your side. Have
a great weekend.

Speaker 5 (02:39:56):
It should be a fun you know, Buddy Triple E
as well, Bud. He's I'm Dan, Matthews and Matt Thomas
Show with Ross coming up next. We'll talk to you
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