February 25, 2025 • 37 mins
BK on what the future of warfare looks like with the proliferation of cheap kamikaze drones. Could the US win against the cartels with America’s half conquest? The state of the Navy. We can’t survive as a country with our current Democrat party. We can’t build up faster than they destroy. The fight against the cartels and for deportations will not be easy. What will they do to protect their golden goose.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show.
Let's have some fun on a Tuesday. And whoa boy,
it looks like things might be kicking off at the
borders sooner rather than later. We will discuss that here
(00:33):
in just a moment. Good news on the whole Russia
Ukraine front. Looks like we're starting to get there with
some terms for people. More good news. The Communists are
still in turmoil, and I am less confident than ever
that they can reform. There's actually a good news and
bad news thing there that'll always be fun to talk about.
(00:55):
Bk Our Air Force. PJ Friend is going to join
us about a half hour from now to discuss Russia Ukraine,
the war itself. What did we learn because you always
want to learn things from these things. All that are
Energy Expert Daniel Turner an hour two and so much
more coming up tonight on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show.
Now I'm gonna begin here. I've made my thoughts known
(01:21):
a lot about the Cartel, the coming Cartel Wars, the
mission to Eradicate Eradicate the Cartels. If you're just now
joining the show, just I'll give you the one minute
version of what I've said, I'm all about it. Trump
it was a campaign promise that he was going to
stop the flow of Fentanel into this country. We can't
have two hundred and fifty thousand Americans oding a year.
(01:43):
It's that's carnage beyond belief. I'm all about putting a
stop to it. All that stuff. Yes, yes, yes, okay,
so I just need to get that point clear. But
I I've also said, do not for a second think
that will be fast or easy. I see a lot
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of that right now. They stand no chance again, stilt
to forts, hold on. They have thousands, tens and tens
and tens of thousands of soldiers. We're better than them.
You're right. In a military engagement, it would be no contest.
They also have the protection of their government federal and
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in most cases state governments in Mexico. And it's their livelihood,
it's their everything. I've heard people say, well, all these
guys care about is money. It's not like the Chihatis
in Afghanistan or something like that. They only care about money. Yeah,
but that's their everything. If somebody only cares about money,
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what will they do to protect their money? If that's
their number one love in life, and that should never
be your number one love in life. But if that's
their number one love in life, what will they do
to protect it. They are not going to just lay down,
They're not going to retreat, They're not going to back
off of it. And frankly, the drug trade, it's the
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number three, the number three part of Mexico's economy. It's
the third biggest part of Mexico's economy. Is the way.
I wanted to say that, but I'm stupid, so I
screwed it up. Initially, the drug trade, you realize that
it's enormous. It's right behind tourism in oil, that's their
number three. It's the third biggest industry. Mexico needs it.
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So today we got a horrible story. It's awful. I
don't even know that. I want to say his name.
Actually I will say his name so you can pray
for his family. A rancher in Texas, Brownsville, Texas, Antonio
Cespetes Saldir No, sorry, I look guitar name for me.
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He was seventy four years old, got blown up by
an ied placed there by the cartels. I you know,
I ran for office in Arizona twice in the southeastern
portion of Arizona. It was a border district. Granted I lost,
but I was always down there, always talking to the
sheriffs and the residences and things like that. And because
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we have an evil American media, which we will get
to in a moment, that actually is rooting to import
as many barbarians as possible, they've never covered what it's
like for people who live along the southern border. I
personally have spoken to people who have to use the
buddy system to go get the mail. That's how dangerous
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it is. It's dangerous. It's been going on for a very, very,
very long time, and now we have what may be
the first ramp up in what is going to be
an ugly little affair. And it's not going to be fast,
and it's not going to be easy, and it's not
going to be one night of Delta Force and then
a twenty thousand pound bomb and well, look at that,
(05:01):
the drug war is over. That is not how it's
going to go at all. There will be casualties on
both sides, there's no question about it. And I love
that this administration is not backing off or slowing down.
I need to make that clear once again. I love
that they're pushing forward. Here was Tom Holmer, the target
enforcement operation.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We went with warrants on some people, some were war
site operations, and others were traffic stops conducted by Texas DPS.
The last number I saw was like sixty nine criminals.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I know for a factor or several sexual predators I
mean child predators that were arrested for sexual misconduct with
with a child. There are several of them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
There's one that was convicted of either homicide or mirth.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Now among those arrested right here, a three time previously
deported criminal illegal alien from El Salvador, Ice tells me here.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So we're pushing forward, and it's good, but we have
to also understand this something I'm gonna talk about again
tonight that I will continue to talk about because it's
really been on my heart and it's not I'm not
trying to make it. I'm not trying to make it happy.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's as heavy as ten boxes that you might be moving.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But it is true. We cannot survive as a country
long term with the current Democrat Party. We must have
a reformed, more moderate, at least slightly Patriotic Democrat Party
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or the United States of America cannot survive because you
can't survive that kind of subversion from within half the
country trying to burn down the country they reside in.
You just you can't live that way. I've used this
example before. If if OB, if OB decides she hates
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our house and she wants to burn the house down,
now ibs to live with her. And if I see her,
if I catch her trying to light fire to the
living room, I can stop her. But in the end,
am I going to be able to stop her from
burning down the house if she wants to burn down
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the house. At some point in time, I've got to
turn my back. I've got to eat, I've got to
go to work, I've got to use the bathroom. At
some point in time, I can't stop her from burning
it down. And we have foreign and domestic enemies of
this country who are trying to burn it down, and
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that is what must be stopped, and that is what
must be changed. We have people like this. This is
an anti ice.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Organizer training the members of the coalition to do these patrols.
We've been doing the patrols for years in Los Angeles
and San Diego. But yesterday we had more than one
hundred and fifty people combing through the streets of Los
Angeles looking for any ICE activity, and early in the
morning we found two operations and we were luckily we're
able to defend those two communities from those ice rates.
What's working are the patrols. We're in every neighborhood of
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Los Angeles this morning. Already, we have come through dozens
of communities of Los Angeles looking for ICE activity. We
do this at five point thirty in the morning because
we know that's when ICE starts their operations, so before
they can go and attack our community, we are looking
for them. And when we find them, we alert people
with megaphones.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That works.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
The megaphones wakes.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Up the people.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
They let them know what's happening, and they also let
ICE know that we're there and we're not going to leave.
We're going to defend our community. We have the legal
right to do so everything we're doing is legal. We
don't intend to break any laws. We are there to
defend our community, and more and more people are joining
this cause.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
We have organizations inside of the country dedicated to protecting
the barbarians that have been brought here. We have Democrat
politicians who understand that they need a country full of
illegals for power. Remember this is about power, It's about
power and money. Democrats mortal enemy is the patriotic American citizen.
(09:03):
And so what do you do about that? You simply
replace him, You outnumber him, you ensure it. That's why
they're screaming so loudly like this.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Grints are us, immigrants are us, and we all deserve
respect and dignity. If you look at the food that's
on your table, think about who picked it. If you
look at your homes, think about who built them.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We have a mountain to climb, and I'm not saying
we can't do it. We can. We can win this.
But we should not in our exuberance right now, which
I'm just as guilty as you are of that we
should not be under any illusion that the fight to
deport illegals will be easy, that the fight against a
kind of fentanyl importation or cartels will be easy. We
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have to gird our loins and dig in. And as
we make this fight, we have to understand that we
need a reform Democrat party, and that's sad because we
have no choice but to just pray about it. That's
all we can do. Because I can't change democrats. You
can't change democrats. That's the That's the storyline. We're going
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to follow along with next their current mentality, what they
want do they sound like they're about to reform. We're
gonna discuss that in a second, because we need them to.
We have to have them before we do that. I'm
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(10:35):
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Stop checking that steake, stop checking that chicken. You'd plug
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We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
He doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. Remember
you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Did you just call Ozzy Osbourne overrated? Look, I'll say this,
he didn't have a ton of hits. He's not John
Fogerty right, he's not CCR. It's not that Ozzie's voice,
(12:25):
Chris is as good as it gets for a rock voice.
Tell me a better rock voice. You can't Ozzy Osbourne's voice. Look,
look at me. Some talent is just from God. Chris,
then some what what what have I listened to the
first minute after crazy training? No nobody does you listen
(12:46):
to the guitar opening and then then as soon as
that's done, you switched songs. Everyone knows this. Let's go
back and talk some more politics, shall we, before we
get to BK in a moment about lessons we learned
from the Ukraine Russian War, what's going on in Africa
and other things. So my point was that we need,
we must have a Democrat party that is reformed. It
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must change in order to save the country long term,
because you cannot build as fast as you can destroy.
You can't. But these people in their religion, they can't well,
at least they haven't converted yet and I don't know
if they can. So Joy Reid got fired. I mentioned it,
(13:28):
and we laughed at her because she's a moron and
a racist than an idiot on MSNBC. I got all that,
it's not a big deal, just a story we mentioned.
Who cares an MSNBC weekend post got fired, So that's
not the point of what I'm about to play for you.
Rachel Maddow is a host on MSNBC Rachel Maddow makes
millions and millions of dollars. Chris looked it up once,
(13:49):
because that's the kind of thing that Chris does. She
makes millions of dollars. If you actually learned how much
that woman makes to produce that career, to be on
that crappy show, you cry. It's millions of dollars. She
is paid by MSNBC. MSNBC is her boss, Chris, do
(14:10):
you want me? I'm not gonna tell them. Do you
want that's her? Her? All right? I'll tell them she
makes twenty five million dollars a year. Twenty five million
dollars a year to do a television show. Remember, media
jobs like mine, they're not really jobs. I've had jobs
my whole life. This is not a job. This is
something you you just do for fun, right, twenty five
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million dollars to do a one hour a day TV show,
five days a week, paid by MSNBC. Is there a
sweeter gig in the country than to work one hour
a day, five days a week, making twenty five million
dollars a year? Is there a sweeter gig? Chris says no.
I'd say no either. She just in the wake of
(14:53):
firing Joy read. She went on television and dogged on
the boss that pays her twenty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
To do telephon where Joy reads show. The readout ended
tonight and Joy is not taking a different job in
the network, she is leaving the network altogether. And that
is very, very very hard to take. I will tell you.
It is also unnerving to see that on a network
where we've got two count of two non white hosts
(15:23):
in primetime. Both of our non white hosts in primetime
are losing their shows, as is Katie Fang on the Weekend,
and that feels worse than bad no matter who replaces now.
That feels indefensible and I do not defend it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Twenty five million dollars a year and she just used
her television program to go on the air and essentially
call her boss a racist. That's an ingrained, radical religious
commitment that I'm not sure that we fully appreciate. I'm
not even sure I fully appreciate that. I've called it
(16:02):
a religion more times than I can count, and it
is a religion. But are they going to be able
to reform west Chester University in Pennsylvania. This is from
campus reform. They'd changed the name of the DEI office,
but then they came out and admitted, yeah, we're not
changing a dack on thing. Oh, we'll stop the whole diversity,
equity and inclusion label because the Trump administration's after him now.
(16:24):
But no, we're not changing our mission. The anti white
racism will continue at west Chester University. Headline from Breitbart
Trouble Bruise after the view hosts are told to cool
the anti Trump rhetoric. So the view obviously we played
clips of them, those morons from time to time all
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day every day. Trump this Trump, that, Trump is Trump
that well. Trump's approval numbers is another one. Trump's approval
numbers are still through the Roof's unbelievably popular. Unbelievably the
country likes it. It's not just you and meet. The
country likes it. They like everything there's and then you
have these harpies ragging on them all day long. It's
killing ratings. People were turning it off. People don't want
(17:07):
to hear that crap anymore. So they had to pull
all these millionaires. They all make millions of dollars. They
had to pull all these millionaires aside and say, hey,
not telling you to stop, but could you just dial
this down a little bit. We're already having to lay
people off. The AD revenue's not coming in. Well, they
don't want to do it. They don't want to do
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it again a television gig where you make millions of dollars.
This comes back to the point I've been making. As
of right now, the communist has not had a change
of heart at all that I've seen. I put it
out there on social media the other day. I was
just curious. I was genuinely curious because I don't hang
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out with Democrats. I don't have any Democrat friends. A
couple acquaintances I'll see from time to time, but I'm
not around democrats and I don't want to be. I
don't hang out with communists. But a lot of you
are friends them, maybe related to them. Maybe it's your husband,
maybe it's your wife or kid, or your mom or something.
But maybe you just work with them. You're forced to
be around them. I don't have that. I have Chris
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and Corey, neither of them are communists. So I wanted
to know, do any of your Democrat friends or acquaintances
or relatives have they ever said a single word showing
they regret arresting their political opponent. None. It was basically zero.
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One guy said, well, I wish we hadn't done the
mar Lago thing because it looked bad. No regrets none.
The Reformed Democrat Party is not here yet. Anyway. Let's
go learn some battle lessons from Ukraine, shall we, and
then we'll move on talk about some other things. Before
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still real to me. Dammit the ternstacks. He doesn't care
(19:57):
if you believe him, but he's right, Jesse Kelly, it
is that Jesse Kelly Show. Gosh, that music is so bad,
and any music that terrible can only mean one thing
that we are welcoming back. Friend of the show, Former
Air Force PJ. Host of World News with bk our
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friend bk Okay BKA. First, I want to dig into
this with you because I'm fascinated by it. We always
want to learn lessons from the most recent conflicts so
we can be better to fight the next conflict. Ukraine Russia.
Let's assume, which may be a big assumption, that this
thing is wrapping up because it appears to be. What
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did we learn?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Well, I think the main thing that came out of
this war, and it was starting and sort of minorly
in the previous conflicts, was but the drones. The drones
are obviously the next frontier in warfare. We've got tiny,
inexpensive pieces of hardware now that can take out fighter
Jess cost hundreds of millions of dollars. We have tiny
pieces of hardware that can take out maybe even eventually
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carrier groups. I mean one drone maybe. Isn't that scary?
What happens when you multiply it by five hundred and
you've got five hundred drones? Are our anti drone technology
is good enough to face such a threat? And to me,
the big question is what kind of hardware in the
United States military has now been kind of made almost
obsolete in the face of this new warfare. Now, hopefully
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we can come up with a better countermeasure, but I
can tell you right now our countermeasures as they exist
will not work against a drone swarm in the middle
of the field.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
P K. What does this mean for the super ninja
types like you? Because I always think about those guys,
you know, the Birder of the Green Berets and the
seals and the pjs and these guys, and you know,
you work so hard and you're the best of the best,
But do you have any defense with ten of you
drop in somewhere and you're trying to, you know, loot
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and scoot around. Do you have anything you can do
about it?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You know, it's a great question. I've seen it unfold
on Twitter pretty frequently in the past couple of weeks,
people asking like, well, why why do we need these big,
strong special operators when they can get vaporized without even
seeing the enemy. I mean, it's a valid question, Jesse.
I know that they have they have some sort of
man portable jamming systems, but again, I don't know if
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that's gonna help. That might help with one drone. What
happens if you have hundreds of them? And what happens
if you even if you, uh, even if you have
some sort of countermeasure on you, Is that going to
help you when a drone is able to see you
for a mile away and launch a projectile. And now
I don't know if they have that capability yet, but
that's gonna come eventually, and that's gonna be the reality
on the ground. So until we have some kind of
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man portable effective jamming techniques and anti electronic warfare stuff,
you know, it's it's it's a it's a great question.
I mean, the best you can do is hopefully we
come up with better tactics to negate all of that.
But right now I'm not sure that exists.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't know why. It just bothers me to know
end that, like our superstuds can be taken out by
some nerd basically playing a video game with the drone.
It just freaking kills.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Mesh ats you. It's like you know, and you want
to say, like, well, that's not fair. I mean it's warfare,
though there's no such thing as a fair fight. You
use what you have. And I think the Ukrainians and
Russians have taken a lot of lessons, and I know
that we're monitoring it, but monitoring something is not the
same as learning those lessons by yourself on the ground.
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So I'm interested to see what comes out of it
from our end.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Again, we're speaking with BK, host of World News with BK,
former Air Force PGA. BK tell me about artillery, because
obviously anyone who knows anything about history understands it wars
like World War One, where these horrible, freaking Charno houses
of artillery just melting everything down. And I realized that
artillery has always been part of warfare, but at least
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from what I can tell, it's it seems like this
was more heavily artillery than recent battles that I can
think of.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, this has been like straight out
of like World War One, with like trenches and stuff.
But Jesse, I think even those tactics are going to
come to an end, especially if you have a peer superpower,
because let's face it, Russia and neither Russia nor Ukraine
has an incredibly effective air force. So if you have,
you know, these huge artillery pieces which can be, as
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you said, extremely devastating, you're gonna have to protect those somehow,
So US with our air force, helicopters or everything else,
we can adapt and quickly take out those threats. But again,
like once you start comparing hat Apache helicopter, like five
hundred drones that cost less than a single Apache helicopter,
how long are those going to be effective? How long
until the range of these drones gets farther and farther.
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Hypersonic ballistic missiles with accuracy can easily take out drone
piece of artillery pieces even many many many miles away.
So it's just everything's like an uncertain time here, Jesse.
You know, it's almost like an earthquake. War was conducted
in a very very similar way for like many hundreds
of years up until World War One, and then in
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World War One they were like, oh man, you mean
we can't like line up in our colorful uniforms and
face across an open field from each other anymore, my word,
because you know, some eighteen year old German kid with
a teen gun just slaughtered your entire cavalry charge even,
you know, Jesse. One of the things I'm fascinating with is,
up until World War One, these generals. You've seen the
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old pictures, You've seen how they used to dress, you know,
the giant hats and all the finery and the right colors. Yeah,
finally a couple of British generals figure out, like, damn,
I should probably stop wearing that stuff because every officer
around me is getting picked off by some pissed off
Austrian guy from Alfile the way. So you know, people
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are slow to learn. But you know, again, we fought
the same way for hundreds of years. We fought maybe
last century in much the similar way, even the beginning
of the global warr and terror. And I think this
is going to be a whole new realm to how
wars are fought in the future.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, let's get away from Russia, Ukraine. What else
is going on in the world that you're brewing on
that we should be paying attention to. We all focus domestically,
myself included. I don't do a ton of foreign policy stuff,
but you're all over this stuff. What's happening out there?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well as far as as far as domestic policy, Jesse,
I'm like, really curious. I'm fascinated watching the whole illegal
immigration and doge controversy take place. I mean, you knew
that the left was going to fight any government cuts
with like the fury of an alley cat that's just
been like half tortured by some vagrant. But the result
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of people freaking out about it is honestly shocking. Because
I'm looking around. I'm like, dude, your life hasn't changed it.
You're sitting here feverishly screaming about Elon Musk like every
ten minutes. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
One of the other big stories I'm following is is
what's happening in su Dan though, Jesse. That's been a
civil war for a long time, mostly ignored by the world,
and now it's gotten so bad that the Sudanese rebels
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are pretty much saying, well, we're we're setting up our
own government over here, and we're taking half the country
and I don't know where that's going to go or
it's how it's going to happen. But we've had tens
of thousands of people killed, millions of people if had
to leave their homes into Dan, and the entire country
is now has a famine approaching. So the same old,
same old Metfork.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Wonderful, wonderful, BKA. You got a few more minutes for me.
I actually want to go to Africa with you. I
want to talk su Dan. I want to touch on
South Africa a little bit. Okay, all right, so we
are going to go to break here and we're going
to come back and I want to I'm going to
talk about some things in Africa because there are a
lot of players involved there. We'll be right back with more. BK.
(27:46):
Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. It's still roo to me,
dammit the tyrns DAGs. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a Tuesday. Remember you can email the show Jesse
Jesse Kellyshow dot com. We are back with our friend BK,
host of World News with BK, former Air force Pja okay, BK.
(28:08):
Soudan's a freaking disaster. South Africa's a disaster. What what
is happening in South Africa? I actually heard somebody float
out there today that Trump may be bringing a bunch
of those people into the country. What's happening?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Uh, yeah, it's a strange thing. You know. South Africa
has been a basket case for a long time, ever
since the end of apartheime. And the thing I found
interesting though, Jesse, is you know, we can the whole
white farmers versus the hard Marxist left African activists. That's
a whole That's a whole other conversation. One of the
things I'm really fascinated with, though, is the South Africa's
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government that has, for the first time, really people are
starting to push back against the ruling class. And you've
seen this a lot across the African continent, Jesse. You know,
you have all these so called liberation politicians. Those were
all the guys who were at the forefront of overthrowing
the colonial oppressor, you know, getting rid of apartheid. Now,
(29:07):
Nelson Mandela was the guy in South Africa, right, but
now you have a whole generation of young people who
are coming up who didn't experience apartheid, they didn't experience
the colonial oppression. And so these young people now for
the first time, are actually making the political races much
more competitive. And for the first time, we're seeing this
old guard, the heroes of the revolution so to speak,
(29:31):
getting kind of taken aback as these young people come
up and want them out too, because they're like, Okay, great,
you fought to end apartheid. That was twenty years before
I was born, and the country is a complete mess.
So for the first time ever, Jesse, we're starting to
see these you know, Colonne, anti colonial politicians who ran
these African countries. They're starting to get serious pushback. And
(29:51):
why wouldn't you, Jesse? You're South Africa is facing the
highest level of power cuts ever in their history as
these as they can't keep the lights on, So why
would some like twenty one year old guy whose South
African care whether or not you fought against the bar turner.
He can't he can't see he has no electricity.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
First house, gos b kay talk for a little bit
if you wouldn't mind about the coming war against the cartels.
And I need to clarify once again that I don't
know how the Trump administration plans to prosecute this war.
They are smartly not advertising that. I don't know whether
their plan is to execute a couple leaders or actually
(30:30):
do what they are saying on the news completely eradicate
the cartels. But I do see a lot of chatter
from people who believe that this is going to be
a one night affairs, sending a couple of green Berets,
a couple of seals will wrap this bad boy up
in oas everything's peaceful.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Well yeah, I mean, and of course if you don't
care about civilian casualties or collateral damage or being you know,
completely blood thirsty, then yeah, that would it would be
over quick. But unfortunately, we have rules in our country
with laws of war. You can't just own strike a
compound where a cartel leader's siding, you's surrounded by women
and children. You just can't do it. Now, this is
gonna be a little bit different than Afghanistan for many reasons,
(31:08):
primarily one because we've had our people in Latin America
and Mexico for many, many, many, many decades. Right, we
have we have tons, we yes, we have tons. We
have tons and tons half of the military speaks decent Spanish,
our military, right, so this is not like a complete
and not to say Latin America and Mexico are also
(31:30):
Christian slash Catholic cultures, right, so we have much in
common with them, much more than we did when the
Afghanistan War broke out. We barely had anybody who spoke
that language. It's a lot different here. So we've been
down there, we know all the players. But Mexico is
a very, very corrupt country. I can't speak to the
current president, Claudia Shinbaum, the new one, but Jesse, we've
(31:50):
known forever that the cartel has had their tentacles at
the highest levels of the Mexican government, including the office
of the President, including their version of the Second Creturia
of Defense. These guys have been arrested in charge because
they were in bed with the cartels. So rooting that
out that's going to be the challenge. I mean, yeah,
we could just kill guys, you know, with a backpack
(32:12):
full of kilos of fentanyl running across the border. That'll
scratch them up some, but that's not going to solve
the underlying problem, which is the infiltration of the cartels,
not just in Mexican society, but in the highest levels
of Mexican government. So how do you do that? That's
a long slog.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, that's really the point I've been trying to make
to people is not that we shouldn't attempt some of
this stuff, but just it's going to be a slog.
It's not going to be an overnight affair. It's not
going to be, you know, clear in present danger. A
couple of bombs here, a couple of raids there, and
it's wrapped up. And I've made that exact same point
you made. The problem is the government itself. It's not
that our guys can't take out the cartels militarily. That's
(32:50):
a freaking joke. That's not the problem. The problem is the.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Government, right and and let's face it, we're not going to,
you know, to change that culture. It's going to be
an effort. Now, I will say, Jesse, it's probably not
as bad as the Taliban, because the Taliban, when you
fight somebody who doesn't care if they die for their belief,
that's a formidable adversary. The cartels, they care about money.
They don't have like a religious ideology that they're willing
(33:13):
to die for. So that is a little bit more
tenuous of a fanaticism when you're just like money, you know,
like these guys aren't gonna die for the cartel unlike
the Taliban, you know what I'm saying. So in that case,
it would be probably a little bit easier to you know,
payoff informance, get intel stuff like that. But that being said,
like you said, you're going to have to solve this
(33:35):
entrenched cartel bureaucracy within the bureaucracy, And how do you
even go about doing that as an American?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Stuff? Yeah, what a freaking mess. Okay, BK. Before I
wrap it up here, I have to ask, as much
as it physically pains me, the United States Navy. A navy,
it's critically important really for any country, but most definitely
a country like ours. Frankly, it's the most important branch
in my opinion, what's the state of ours? You're no
(34:01):
good things about the state of ours?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Uh? You know, I'm not in a position related to
say that, but I you know, I do hear Jesse.
You know, you and I have been around a while now.
Every old veteran always says about the new generation of
veterans the same thing. Oh they ain't anything, you know,
so much harder. All we've all been there. I do
it too, I'm guilty. Okay, you're not. When I was
(34:25):
in it was so much harder. I mean from when
I'm hearing the navy. You know, I'm very impressed with
the ability the military to take young people and turn
them into very smart, effective operators in whatever field they are.
I always have been Jesse's like, you know, we have
twenty one year old kids who work as nuclear reactor technicians.
Do you know how much mass, how demanding that is?
(34:47):
And the Navy in the military has been very very
good traditionally at taking these young people from America, whether
it's in the hood, whether it's out in the the sticks,
you know, the countryside, and they have a good ability
to take these people and sit them down and crawl, walk,
run until they're experts in their field. So I know,
the Navy just hit a great recruiting number. So I'm
(35:08):
not going to go ahead and be full of despair
about the state of the Navy. I'm sure there's things
they could work on, but we still have the best
Navy in the world, and as well as the best
military in the world. So you know, some people probably
need to check themselves a little bit and we're gonna
be okay.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, we'll be okay. We got plenty to see them.
And b K, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
My brother, Bud.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, we have the people. I'm not sure we have
the equipment. It's my problem. Trump keeps ranting and raving
about how we're going to ranting and raving. It makes
them sound like a lunatic. Trump keeps yelling that we
need an improved navy, that we need better ships, that
we did, that our ships are behind, that our ships
are old, that our ships are rusted, and I am
(35:53):
I am growing more and more concerned about the aggression
of China and their navy appears to be flexing their
muscle every single place that can flex their muscle on
this planet, and it's concerning. Okay, So I'm going to
get to some emails because there's some very good stuff
out there, like where's all this Doge money going, what's
(36:14):
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This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The Jesse Kelly Show.
Let's have some fun on a Tuesday. And whoa boy,
it looks like things might be kicking off at the
borders sooner rather than later. We will discuss that here
(00:33):
in just a moment. Good news on the whole Russia
Ukraine front. Looks like we're starting to get there with
some terms for people. More good news. The Communists are
still in turmoil, and I am less confident than ever
that they can reform. There's actually a good news and
bad news thing there that'll always be fun to talk about.
(00:55):
Bk Our Air Force. PJ Friend is going to join
us about a half hour from now to discuss Russia Ukraine,
the war itself. What did we learn because you always
want to learn things from these things. All that are
Energy Expert Daniel Turner an hour two and so much
more coming up tonight on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show.
Now I'm gonna begin here. I've made my thoughts known
(01:21):
a lot about the Cartel, the coming Cartel Wars, the
mission to Eradicate Eradicate the Cartels. If you're just now
joining the show, just I'll give you the one minute
version of what I've said, I'm all about it. Trump
it was a campaign promise that he was going to
stop the flow of Fentanel into this country. We can't
have two hundred and fifty thousand Americans oding a year.
(01:43):
It's that's carnage beyond belief. I'm all about putting a
stop to it. All that stuff. Yes, yes, yes, okay,
so I just need to get that point clear. But
I I've also said, do not for a second think
that will be fast or easy. I see a lot
(02:04):
of that right now. They stand no chance again, stilt
to forts, hold on. They have thousands, tens and tens
and tens of thousands of soldiers. We're better than them.
You're right. In a military engagement, it would be no contest.
They also have the protection of their government federal and
(02:24):
in most cases state governments in Mexico. And it's their livelihood,
it's their everything. I've heard people say, well, all these
guys care about is money. It's not like the Chihatis
in Afghanistan or something like that. They only care about money. Yeah,
but that's their everything. If somebody only cares about money,
(02:51):
what will they do to protect their money? If that's
their number one love in life, and that should never
be your number one love in life. But if that's
their number one love in life, what will they do
to protect it. They are not going to just lay down,
They're not going to retreat, They're not going to back
off of it. And frankly, the drug trade, it's the
(03:12):
number three, the number three part of Mexico's economy. It's
the third biggest part of Mexico's economy. Is the way.
I wanted to say that, but I'm stupid, so I
screwed it up. Initially, the drug trade, you realize that
it's enormous. It's right behind tourism in oil, that's their
number three. It's the third biggest industry. Mexico needs it.
(03:33):
So today we got a horrible story. It's awful. I
don't even know that. I want to say his name.
Actually I will say his name so you can pray
for his family. A rancher in Texas, Brownsville, Texas, Antonio
Cespetes Saldir No, sorry, I look guitar name for me.
(03:54):
He was seventy four years old, got blown up by
an ied placed there by the cartels. I you know,
I ran for office in Arizona twice in the southeastern
portion of Arizona. It was a border district. Granted I lost,
but I was always down there, always talking to the
sheriffs and the residences and things like that. And because
(04:17):
we have an evil American media, which we will get
to in a moment, that actually is rooting to import
as many barbarians as possible, they've never covered what it's
like for people who live along the southern border. I
personally have spoken to people who have to use the
buddy system to go get the mail. That's how dangerous
(04:38):
it is. It's dangerous. It's been going on for a very, very,
very long time, and now we have what may be
the first ramp up in what is going to be
an ugly little affair. And it's not going to be fast,
and it's not going to be easy, and it's not
going to be one night of Delta Force and then
a twenty thousand pound bomb and well, look at that,
(05:01):
the drug war is over. That is not how it's
going to go at all. There will be casualties on
both sides, there's no question about it. And I love
that this administration is not backing off or slowing down.
I need to make that clear once again. I love
that they're pushing forward. Here was Tom Holmer, the target
enforcement operation.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
We went with warrants on some people, some were war
site operations, and others were traffic stops conducted by Texas DPS.
The last number I saw was like sixty nine criminals.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I know for a factor or several sexual predators I
mean child predators that were arrested for sexual misconduct with
with a child. There are several of them.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I know.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
There's one that was convicted of either homicide or mirth.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Now among those arrested right here, a three time previously
deported criminal illegal alien from El Salvador, Ice tells me here.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So we're pushing forward, and it's good, but we have
to also understand this something I'm gonna talk about again
tonight that I will continue to talk about because it's
really been on my heart and it's not I'm not
trying to make it. I'm not trying to make it happy.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's as heavy as ten boxes that you might be moving.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But it is true. We cannot survive as a country
long term with the current Democrat Party. We must have
a reformed, more moderate, at least slightly Patriotic Democrat Party
(06:32):
or the United States of America cannot survive because you
can't survive that kind of subversion from within half the
country trying to burn down the country they reside in.
You just you can't live that way. I've used this
example before. If if OB, if OB decides she hates
(06:54):
our house and she wants to burn the house down,
now ibs to live with her. And if I see her,
if I catch her trying to light fire to the
living room, I can stop her. But in the end,
am I going to be able to stop her from
burning down the house if she wants to burn down
(07:15):
the house. At some point in time, I've got to
turn my back. I've got to eat, I've got to
go to work, I've got to use the bathroom. At
some point in time, I can't stop her from burning
it down. And we have foreign and domestic enemies of
this country who are trying to burn it down, and
(07:36):
that is what must be stopped, and that is what
must be changed. We have people like this. This is
an anti ice.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Organizer training the members of the coalition to do these patrols.
We've been doing the patrols for years in Los Angeles
and San Diego. But yesterday we had more than one
hundred and fifty people combing through the streets of Los
Angeles looking for any ICE activity, and early in the
morning we found two operations and we were luckily we're
able to defend those two communities from those ice rates.
What's working are the patrols. We're in every neighborhood of
(08:06):
Los Angeles this morning. Already, we have come through dozens
of communities of Los Angeles looking for ICE activity. We
do this at five point thirty in the morning because
we know that's when ICE starts their operations, so before
they can go and attack our community, we are looking
for them. And when we find them, we alert people
with megaphones.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That works.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
The megaphones wakes.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Up the people.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
They let them know what's happening, and they also let
ICE know that we're there and we're not going to leave.
We're going to defend our community. We have the legal
right to do so everything we're doing is legal. We
don't intend to break any laws. We are there to
defend our community, and more and more people are joining
this cause.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
We have organizations inside of the country dedicated to protecting
the barbarians that have been brought here. We have Democrat
politicians who understand that they need a country full of
illegals for power. Remember this is about power, It's about
power and money. Democrats mortal enemy is the patriotic American citizen.
(09:03):
And so what do you do about that? You simply
replace him, You outnumber him, you ensure it. That's why
they're screaming so loudly like this.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Grints are us, immigrants are us, and we all deserve
respect and dignity. If you look at the food that's
on your table, think about who picked it. If you
look at your homes, think about who built them.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We have a mountain to climb, and I'm not saying
we can't do it. We can. We can win this.
But we should not in our exuberance right now, which
I'm just as guilty as you are of that we
should not be under any illusion that the fight to
deport illegals will be easy, that the fight against a
kind of fentanyl importation or cartels will be easy. We
(09:51):
have to gird our loins and dig in. And as
we make this fight, we have to understand that we
need a reform Democrat party, and that's sad because we
have no choice but to just pray about it. That's
all we can do. Because I can't change democrats. You
can't change democrats. That's the That's the storyline. We're going
(10:15):
to follow along with next their current mentality, what they
want do they sound like they're about to reform. We're
gonna discuss that in a second, because we need them to.
We have to have them before we do that. I'm
going to discuss meat with you, My meat and your meat.
(10:35):
I make a perfect steak every time. I make a
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little cooking experience, how do I pull this off every time? Well,
it's because of chef men, It's because of chef Well.
The IQ Sense for specifically, the IQ Sense is a thermometer,
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but it's not it's not like your normal meat thermometer.
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Stop checking that steake, stop checking that chicken. You'd plug
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We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
He doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. Remember
you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Did you just call Ozzy Osbourne overrated? Look, I'll say this,
he didn't have a ton of hits. He's not John
Fogerty right, he's not CCR. It's not that Ozzie's voice,
(12:25):
Chris is as good as it gets for a rock voice.
Tell me a better rock voice. You can't Ozzy Osbourne's voice. Look,
look at me. Some talent is just from God. Chris,
then some what what what have I listened to the
first minute after crazy training? No nobody does you listen
(12:46):
to the guitar opening and then then as soon as
that's done, you switched songs. Everyone knows this. Let's go
back and talk some more politics, shall we, before we
get to BK in a moment about lessons we learned
from the Ukraine Russian War, what's going on in Africa
and other things. So my point was that we need,
we must have a Democrat party that is reformed. It
(13:07):
must change in order to save the country long term,
because you cannot build as fast as you can destroy.
You can't. But these people in their religion, they can't well,
at least they haven't converted yet and I don't know
if they can. So Joy Reid got fired. I mentioned it,
(13:28):
and we laughed at her because she's a moron and
a racist than an idiot on MSNBC. I got all that,
it's not a big deal, just a story we mentioned.
Who cares an MSNBC weekend post got fired, So that's
not the point of what I'm about to play for you.
Rachel Maddow is a host on MSNBC Rachel Maddow makes
millions and millions of dollars. Chris looked it up once,
(13:49):
because that's the kind of thing that Chris does. She
makes millions of dollars. If you actually learned how much
that woman makes to produce that career, to be on
that crappy show, you cry. It's millions of dollars. She
is paid by MSNBC. MSNBC is her boss, Chris, do
(14:10):
you want me? I'm not gonna tell them. Do you
want that's her? Her? All right? I'll tell them she
makes twenty five million dollars a year. Twenty five million
dollars a year to do a television show. Remember, media
jobs like mine, they're not really jobs. I've had jobs
my whole life. This is not a job. This is
something you you just do for fun, right, twenty five
(14:32):
million dollars to do a one hour a day TV show,
five days a week, paid by MSNBC. Is there a
sweeter gig in the country than to work one hour
a day, five days a week, making twenty five million
dollars a year? Is there a sweeter gig? Chris says no.
I'd say no either. She just in the wake of
(14:53):
firing Joy read. She went on television and dogged on
the boss that pays her twenty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
To do telephon where Joy reads show. The readout ended
tonight and Joy is not taking a different job in
the network, she is leaving the network altogether. And that
is very, very very hard to take. I will tell you.
It is also unnerving to see that on a network
where we've got two count of two non white hosts
(15:23):
in primetime. Both of our non white hosts in primetime
are losing their shows, as is Katie Fang on the Weekend,
and that feels worse than bad no matter who replaces now.
That feels indefensible and I do not defend it.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Twenty five million dollars a year and she just used
her television program to go on the air and essentially
call her boss a racist. That's an ingrained, radical religious
commitment that I'm not sure that we fully appreciate. I'm
not even sure I fully appreciate that. I've called it
(16:02):
a religion more times than I can count, and it
is a religion. But are they going to be able
to reform west Chester University in Pennsylvania. This is from
campus reform. They'd changed the name of the DEI office,
but then they came out and admitted, yeah, we're not
changing a dack on thing. Oh, we'll stop the whole diversity,
equity and inclusion label because the Trump administration's after him now.
(16:24):
But no, we're not changing our mission. The anti white
racism will continue at west Chester University. Headline from Breitbart
Trouble Bruise after the view hosts are told to cool
the anti Trump rhetoric. So the view obviously we played
clips of them, those morons from time to time all
(16:46):
day every day. Trump this Trump, that, Trump is Trump
that well. Trump's approval numbers is another one. Trump's approval
numbers are still through the Roof's unbelievably popular. Unbelievably the
country likes it. It's not just you and meet. The
country likes it. They like everything there's and then you
have these harpies ragging on them all day long. It's
killing ratings. People were turning it off. People don't want
(17:07):
to hear that crap anymore. So they had to pull
all these millionaires. They all make millions of dollars. They
had to pull all these millionaires aside and say, hey,
not telling you to stop, but could you just dial
this down a little bit. We're already having to lay
people off. The AD revenue's not coming in. Well, they
don't want to do it. They don't want to do
(17:28):
it again a television gig where you make millions of dollars.
This comes back to the point I've been making. As
of right now, the communist has not had a change
of heart at all that I've seen. I put it
out there on social media the other day. I was
just curious. I was genuinely curious because I don't hang
(17:48):
out with Democrats. I don't have any Democrat friends. A
couple acquaintances I'll see from time to time, but I'm
not around democrats and I don't want to be. I
don't hang out with communists. But a lot of you
are friends them, maybe related to them. Maybe it's your husband,
maybe it's your wife or kid, or your mom or something.
But maybe you just work with them. You're forced to
be around them. I don't have that. I have Chris
(18:09):
and Corey, neither of them are communists. So I wanted
to know, do any of your Democrat friends or acquaintances
or relatives have they ever said a single word showing
they regret arresting their political opponent. None. It was basically zero.
(18:29):
One guy said, well, I wish we hadn't done the
mar Lago thing because it looked bad. No regrets none.
The Reformed Democrat Party is not here yet. Anyway. Let's
go learn some battle lessons from Ukraine, shall we, and
then we'll move on talk about some other things. Before
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(19:57):
if you believe him, but he's right, Jesse Kelly, it
is that Jesse Kelly Show. Gosh, that music is so bad,
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that we are welcoming back. Friend of the show, Former
Air Force PJ. Host of World News with bk our
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friend bk Okay BKA. First, I want to dig into
this with you because I'm fascinated by it. We always
want to learn lessons from the most recent conflicts so
we can be better to fight the next conflict. Ukraine Russia.
Let's assume, which may be a big assumption, that this
thing is wrapping up because it appears to be. What
(20:42):
did we learn?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Well, I think the main thing that came out of
this war, and it was starting and sort of minorly
in the previous conflicts, was but the drones. The drones
are obviously the next frontier in warfare. We've got tiny,
inexpensive pieces of hardware now that can take out fighter
Jess cost hundreds of millions of dollars. We have tiny
pieces of hardware that can take out maybe even eventually
(21:07):
carrier groups. I mean one drone maybe. Isn't that scary?
What happens when you multiply it by five hundred and
you've got five hundred drones? Are our anti drone technology
is good enough to face such a threat? And to me,
the big question is what kind of hardware in the
United States military has now been kind of made almost
obsolete in the face of this new warfare. Now, hopefully
(21:28):
we can come up with a better countermeasure, but I
can tell you right now our countermeasures as they exist
will not work against a drone swarm in the middle
of the field.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
P K. What does this mean for the super ninja
types like you? Because I always think about those guys,
you know, the Birder of the Green Berets and the
seals and the pjs and these guys, and you know,
you work so hard and you're the best of the best,
But do you have any defense with ten of you
drop in somewhere and you're trying to, you know, loot
(22:00):
and scoot around. Do you have anything you can do
about it?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
You know, it's a great question. I've seen it unfold
on Twitter pretty frequently in the past couple of weeks,
people asking like, well, why why do we need these big,
strong special operators when they can get vaporized without even
seeing the enemy. I mean, it's a valid question, Jesse.
I know that they have they have some sort of
man portable jamming systems, but again, I don't know if
(22:25):
that's gonna help. That might help with one drone. What
happens if you have hundreds of them? And what happens
if you even if you, uh, even if you have
some sort of countermeasure on you, Is that going to
help you when a drone is able to see you
for a mile away and launch a projectile. And now
I don't know if they have that capability yet, but
that's gonna come eventually, and that's gonna be the reality
on the ground. So until we have some kind of
(22:47):
man portable effective jamming techniques and anti electronic warfare stuff,
you know, it's it's it's a it's a great question.
I mean, the best you can do is hopefully we
come up with better tactics to negate all of that.
But right now I'm not sure that exists.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I don't know why. It just bothers me to know
end that, like our superstuds can be taken out by
some nerd basically playing a video game with the drone.
It just freaking kills.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Mesh ats you. It's like you know, and you want
to say, like, well, that's not fair. I mean it's warfare,
though there's no such thing as a fair fight. You
use what you have. And I think the Ukrainians and
Russians have taken a lot of lessons, and I know
that we're monitoring it, but monitoring something is not the
same as learning those lessons by yourself on the ground.
(23:31):
So I'm interested to see what comes out of it
from our end.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Again, we're speaking with BK, host of World News with BK,
former Air Force PGA. BK tell me about artillery, because
obviously anyone who knows anything about history understands it wars
like World War One, where these horrible, freaking Charno houses
of artillery just melting everything down. And I realized that
artillery has always been part of warfare, but at least
(23:58):
from what I can tell, it's it seems like this
was more heavily artillery than recent battles that I can
think of.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, this has been like straight out
of like World War One, with like trenches and stuff.
But Jesse, I think even those tactics are going to
come to an end, especially if you have a peer superpower,
because let's face it, Russia and neither Russia nor Ukraine
has an incredibly effective air force. So if you have,
you know, these huge artillery pieces which can be, as
(24:28):
you said, extremely devastating, you're gonna have to protect those somehow,
So US with our air force, helicopters or everything else,
we can adapt and quickly take out those threats. But again,
like once you start comparing hat Apache helicopter, like five
hundred drones that cost less than a single Apache helicopter,
how long are those going to be effective? How long
until the range of these drones gets farther and farther.
(24:50):
Hypersonic ballistic missiles with accuracy can easily take out drone
piece of artillery pieces even many many many miles away.
So it's just everything's like an uncertain time here, Jesse.
You know, it's almost like an earthquake. War was conducted
in a very very similar way for like many hundreds
of years up until World War One, and then in
(25:11):
World War One they were like, oh man, you mean
we can't like line up in our colorful uniforms and
face across an open field from each other anymore, my word,
because you know, some eighteen year old German kid with
a teen gun just slaughtered your entire cavalry charge even,
you know, Jesse. One of the things I'm fascinating with is,
up until World War One, these generals. You've seen the
(25:32):
old pictures, You've seen how they used to dress, you know,
the giant hats and all the finery and the right colors. Yeah,
finally a couple of British generals figure out, like, damn,
I should probably stop wearing that stuff because every officer
around me is getting picked off by some pissed off
Austrian guy from Alfile the way. So you know, people
(25:54):
are slow to learn. But you know, again, we fought
the same way for hundreds of years. We fought maybe
last century in much the similar way, even the beginning
of the global warr and terror. And I think this
is going to be a whole new realm to how
wars are fought in the future.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, let's get away from Russia, Ukraine. What else
is going on in the world that you're brewing on
that we should be paying attention to. We all focus domestically,
myself included. I don't do a ton of foreign policy stuff,
but you're all over this stuff. What's happening out there?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Well as far as as far as domestic policy, Jesse,
I'm like, really curious. I'm fascinated watching the whole illegal
immigration and doge controversy take place. I mean, you knew
that the left was going to fight any government cuts
with like the fury of an alley cat that's just
been like half tortured by some vagrant. But the result
(26:46):
of people freaking out about it is honestly shocking. Because
I'm looking around. I'm like, dude, your life hasn't changed it.
You're sitting here feverishly screaming about Elon Musk like every
ten minutes. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
One of the other big stories I'm following is is
what's happening in su Dan though, Jesse. That's been a
civil war for a long time, mostly ignored by the world,
and now it's gotten so bad that the Sudanese rebels
(27:08):
are pretty much saying, well, we're we're setting up our
own government over here, and we're taking half the country
and I don't know where that's going to go or
it's how it's going to happen. But we've had tens
of thousands of people killed, millions of people if had
to leave their homes into Dan, and the entire country
is now has a famine approaching. So the same old,
same old Metfork.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Wonderful, wonderful, BKA. You got a few more minutes for me.
I actually want to go to Africa with you. I
want to talk su Dan. I want to touch on
South Africa a little bit. Okay, all right, so we
are going to go to break here and we're going
to come back and I want to I'm going to
talk about some things in Africa because there are a
lot of players involved there. We'll be right back with more. BK.
(27:46):
Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. It's still roo to me,
dammit the tyrns DAGs. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a Tuesday. Remember you can email the show Jesse
Jesse Kellyshow dot com. We are back with our friend BK,
host of World News with BK, former Air force Pja okay, BK.
(28:08):
Soudan's a freaking disaster. South Africa's a disaster. What what
is happening in South Africa? I actually heard somebody float
out there today that Trump may be bringing a bunch
of those people into the country. What's happening?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Uh, yeah, it's a strange thing. You know. South Africa
has been a basket case for a long time, ever
since the end of apartheime. And the thing I found
interesting though, Jesse, is you know, we can the whole
white farmers versus the hard Marxist left African activists. That's
a whole That's a whole other conversation. One of the
things I'm really fascinated with, though, is the South Africa's
(28:46):
government that has, for the first time, really people are
starting to push back against the ruling class. And you've
seen this a lot across the African continent, Jesse. You know,
you have all these so called liberation politicians. Those were
all the guys who were at the forefront of overthrowing
the colonial oppressor, you know, getting rid of apartheid. Now,
(29:07):
Nelson Mandela was the guy in South Africa, right, but
now you have a whole generation of young people who
are coming up who didn't experience apartheid, they didn't experience
the colonial oppression. And so these young people now for
the first time, are actually making the political races much
more competitive. And for the first time, we're seeing this
old guard, the heroes of the revolution so to speak,
(29:31):
getting kind of taken aback as these young people come
up and want them out too, because they're like, Okay, great,
you fought to end apartheid. That was twenty years before
I was born, and the country is a complete mess.
So for the first time ever, Jesse, we're starting to
see these you know, Colonne, anti colonial politicians who ran
these African countries. They're starting to get serious pushback. And
(29:51):
why wouldn't you, Jesse? You're South Africa is facing the
highest level of power cuts ever in their history as
these as they can't keep the lights on, So why
would some like twenty one year old guy whose South
African care whether or not you fought against the bar turner.
He can't he can't see he has no electricity.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
First house, gos b kay talk for a little bit
if you wouldn't mind about the coming war against the cartels.
And I need to clarify once again that I don't
know how the Trump administration plans to prosecute this war.
They are smartly not advertising that. I don't know whether
their plan is to execute a couple leaders or actually
(30:30):
do what they are saying on the news completely eradicate
the cartels. But I do see a lot of chatter
from people who believe that this is going to be
a one night affairs, sending a couple of green Berets,
a couple of seals will wrap this bad boy up
in oas everything's peaceful.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Well yeah, I mean, and of course if you don't
care about civilian casualties or collateral damage or being you know,
completely blood thirsty, then yeah, that would it would be
over quick. But unfortunately, we have rules in our country
with laws of war. You can't just own strike a
compound where a cartel leader's siding, you's surrounded by women
and children. You just can't do it. Now, this is
gonna be a little bit different than Afghanistan for many reasons,
(31:08):
primarily one because we've had our people in Latin America
and Mexico for many, many, many, many decades. Right, we
have we have tons, we yes, we have tons. We
have tons and tons half of the military speaks decent Spanish,
our military, right, so this is not like a complete
and not to say Latin America and Mexico are also
(31:30):
Christian slash Catholic cultures, right, so we have much in
common with them, much more than we did when the
Afghanistan War broke out. We barely had anybody who spoke
that language. It's a lot different here. So we've been
down there, we know all the players. But Mexico is
a very, very corrupt country. I can't speak to the
current president, Claudia Shinbaum, the new one, but Jesse, we've
(31:50):
known forever that the cartel has had their tentacles at
the highest levels of the Mexican government, including the office
of the President, including their version of the Second Creturia
of Defense. These guys have been arrested in charge because
they were in bed with the cartels. So rooting that
out that's going to be the challenge. I mean, yeah,
we could just kill guys, you know, with a backpack
(32:12):
full of kilos of fentanyl running across the border. That'll
scratch them up some, but that's not going to solve
the underlying problem, which is the infiltration of the cartels,
not just in Mexican society, but in the highest levels
of Mexican government. So how do you do that? That's
a long slog.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, that's really the point I've been trying to make
to people is not that we shouldn't attempt some of
this stuff, but just it's going to be a slog.
It's not going to be an overnight affair. It's not
going to be, you know, clear in present danger. A
couple of bombs here, a couple of raids there, and
it's wrapped up. And I've made that exact same point
you made. The problem is the government itself. It's not
that our guys can't take out the cartels militarily. That's
(32:50):
a freaking joke. That's not the problem. The problem is the.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Government, right and and let's face it, we're not going to,
you know, to change that culture. It's going to be
an effort. Now, I will say, Jesse, it's probably not
as bad as the Taliban, because the Taliban, when you
fight somebody who doesn't care if they die for their belief,
that's a formidable adversary. The cartels, they care about money.
They don't have like a religious ideology that they're willing
(33:13):
to die for. So that is a little bit more
tenuous of a fanaticism when you're just like money, you know,
like these guys aren't gonna die for the cartel unlike
the Taliban, you know what I'm saying. So in that case,
it would be probably a little bit easier to you know,
payoff informance, get intel stuff like that. But that being said,
like you said, you're going to have to solve this
(33:35):
entrenched cartel bureaucracy within the bureaucracy, And how do you
even go about doing that as an American?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Stuff? Yeah, what a freaking mess. Okay, BK. Before I
wrap it up here, I have to ask, as much
as it physically pains me, the United States Navy. A navy,
it's critically important really for any country, but most definitely
a country like ours. Frankly, it's the most important branch
in my opinion, what's the state of ours? You're no
(34:01):
good things about the state of ours?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Uh? You know, I'm not in a position related to
say that, but I you know, I do hear Jesse.
You know, you and I have been around a while now.
Every old veteran always says about the new generation of
veterans the same thing. Oh they ain't anything, you know,
so much harder. All we've all been there. I do
it too, I'm guilty. Okay, you're not. When I was
(34:25):
in it was so much harder. I mean from when
I'm hearing the navy. You know, I'm very impressed with
the ability the military to take young people and turn
them into very smart, effective operators in whatever field they are.
I always have been Jesse's like, you know, we have
twenty one year old kids who work as nuclear reactor technicians.
Do you know how much mass, how demanding that is?
(34:47):
And the Navy in the military has been very very
good traditionally at taking these young people from America, whether
it's in the hood, whether it's out in the the sticks,
you know, the countryside, and they have a good ability
to take these people and sit them down and crawl, walk,
run until they're experts in their field. So I know,
the Navy just hit a great recruiting number. So I'm
(35:08):
not going to go ahead and be full of despair
about the state of the Navy. I'm sure there's things
they could work on, but we still have the best
Navy in the world, and as well as the best
military in the world. So you know, some people probably
need to check themselves a little bit and we're gonna
be okay.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, we'll be okay. We got plenty to see them.
And b K, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
My brother, Bud.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, we have the people. I'm not sure we have
the equipment. It's my problem. Trump keeps ranting and raving
about how we're going to ranting and raving. It makes
them sound like a lunatic. Trump keeps yelling that we
need an improved navy, that we need better ships, that
we did, that our ships are behind, that our ships
are old, that our ships are rusted, and I am
(35:53):
I am growing more and more concerned about the aggression
of China and their navy appears to be flexing their
muscle every single place that can flex their muscle on
this planet, and it's concerning. Okay, So I'm going to
get to some emails because there's some very good stuff
out there, like where's all this Doge money going, what's
(36:14):
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