How Songs Make Money
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds. Series 1, consisting of nine episodes, will be released weekly from September – December 2025. -- All views expressed on this podcast are those of the speakers, and do not necessarily represent the views of the University of Leeds, the School of Music, or any other organisation. Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as business or legal advice.
Episodes
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode offers an interview with Christopher Fox, a composer of new music, as well as a music scholar and writer. Christopher’s work has been performed and broadcast world-wide and has featured in many leadin...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode is produced by Rose Pia Scotti, a member of the 2024/25 cohort on our Music Management MA course. Rose’s episode tells the story of Taylor Swift’s masters dispute, unpacking key terminology, introdu...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode offers an interview with Tony Orchudesch, founder of Torchlight Music. Torchlight works with advertising agencies, broadcasters and producers to clear content for all forms of broadcast, and also ha...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode is produced by William Gerrard, a member of the 2024/25 cohort on our Music Management MA course. William’s episode explores the relationship between copyright law and sample-based music. He tells us ...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode offers an interview with Lily Blakeney-Edwards. Lily is Client Manager at Sentric Music, a music publisher which represents over 400,000 artists across the world. In this role Lily has worked with a...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode is produced by Yuejing Li, a member of the 2024/25 cohort on our Music Management MA course. Yuejing uses Beethoven as a starting point for exploring the world of classical music copyright, outlining ...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode offers an interview with Toby Huelin (University of Leeds) and Júlia Durand (NOVA University of Lisbon), who have both individually and collaboratively published academic research on the subject of li...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode is produced by El Kirkwood, a recent graduate of our Music Management MA course. El explores the world of sync licensing, reflecting on the economic value of sync deals, the question of how much ‘expo...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
This week's episode offers an interview with William Castile, who is currently International Music Rights Manager at Phoenix Music International. In our interview, Will helped me to understand the operations of Phoenix M...
How Songs Make Money is a podcast series about music rights and the income streams associated with songwriting and composition, hosted by Dr Ellis Jones, Lecturer in Music and Management at the University of Leeds.
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