The Cyber Mettle Podcast with Alyson & Omar
The Cyber Mettle Podcast makes technology, and its impact on real life, understandable. In a world where technology shapes how we work, communicate, govern, and make decisions, this podcast explores how technology, business, law, resilience, and the human experience intersect in practice, not just in theory. Hosted by experienced professionals with backgrounds spanning technology, law, business, and risk, The Cyber Mettle Podcast focuses on helping listeners make sense of complexity without dumbing it down. We talk about: Technology and innovation in everyday life and work Cybersecurity, privacy, and data without the jargon Business decisions shaped by regulation and risk Leadership, accountability, and resilience in moments of change or crisis The human behaviors and incentives behind technical and legal outcomes This isn’t a podcast about gadgets or headlines. It’s about how technology actually shows up in people’s lives and organizations, and what that means for the choices we make. Why “Cyber Mettle”? Because modern challenges don’t just test systems — they test judgment, adaptability, and character. Cyber mettle is the ability to respond thoughtfully when technology, policy, and human behavior collide. Who This Podcast Is For The Cyber Mettle Podcast is for curious, thoughtful listeners who want to understand the world they’re operating in: Business leaders and professionals Legal, compliance, and technology practitioners Founders, operators, and advisors Anyone navigating work, leadership, or decision-making in a tech-shaped world You don’t need to be technical, just interested in how things really work. What Makes This Podcast Different Accessible conversations grounded in real experience Cross-disciplinary perspectives without silos No fear-mongering, no hype, no unnecessary jargon Respect for nuance, context, and human impact We connect dots others treat in isolation. Release Schedule 🎙️ New full episodes every Tuesday morning 🎧 Available on Podbean and all major podcast platforms and YouTube Subscribe to The Cyber Mettle Podcast for conversations that help you better understand technology’s role in modern life and your place within it. Keywords: Technology podcast, cybersecurity podcast, business and technology, law and technology, digital resilience, human factors, leadership, risk and decision-making, privacy, innovation, tech and society, business succession planning, sexploitation, data privacy To learn more about our hosts, visit their LinkedIn profiles at: Dr. Omar Sangurima: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dromars/ Alyson M. Laderman, Esq.: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alysonladerman/ Visit https://cybermettle.org for more information about Cyber Mettle Inc., a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization dedicated to community cyber resilience and workforce development.
Episodes
Is cybersecurity really facing a talent shortage—or are we looking at the problem the wrong way?
In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar and Alyson welcome Jakub Zvernia, Technical Program Lead for Cyber Path, Australia's national cyber workforce professionalization pilot delivered by the Australian Computer Society.
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The IAPP AIGP certification is becoming one of the most sought-after credentials in AI governance, but what does preparing for it actually teach you?
In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman go beyond exam prep to discuss something much bigger: how professionals actually learn.
As Alyson works through an intensive 28-day AIGP bootcamp with Dr. Kyle Da...
Can AI actually improve penetration testing, or does it create an entirely new attack surface?
In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with cybersecurity researcher and executive Dan Shallom to explore how agentic AI is reshaping offensive security, vulnerability discovery, and security assessments. Dan explains why today's AI isn't simply making penetration testing faster—it'...
Thinking about the AAIR certification from ISACA? Just hours after completing the Advanced AI Risk (AAIR) exam, Omar Sangurima sits down with Alyson Laderman to share his candid experience, preparation approach, key takeaways, and lessons learned from one of ISACA’s newest AI-focused certifications. In this Cert Corner episode, Omar discusses how the AAIR exam compares to certifications like the AIGP, why "ISACA mode" matte...
Your backups may be protected. Your data may be protected. But what happens if you lose access to the systems that let you access everything else? In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Muli Motola, CEO and Co-Founder of Acsense, to discuss one of the most overlooked areas of cybersecurity and resilience: Identity and Access Management (IAM). As organizations con...
Can AI make organizations more effective without replacing people?
Cybersecurity leader Joshua Copeland joins Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman to discuss AI, workforce development, cybersecurity, governance, and the unintended consequences of automation.
In this episode: • Why AI should augment people rather than replace them
• The hidden costs of AI adoption
• AI-generated code and cybersecurity risks
• Workforce developmen...
What happens when cybersecurity, investigative journalism, hacker culture, and privacy rights collide? Pulitzer Award-winning journalist Yael Grauer joins @TheCyberMettlePodcast to unpack data brokers, surveillance tech, OSINT culture, online privacy, hacker paranoia, and why your personal information is far more exposed than most people realize. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Dr. Omar Sangurima and ...
“AI won’t take your job” is comforting. But, James McQuiggan explains why that’s not entirely true and what cybersecurity professionals must do next. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Dr. Omar Sangurima and Alyson M. Laderman, Esq. sit down with cybersecurity veteran James McQuiggan to discuss the uncomfortable reality of AI disruption, workforce resilience, human risk, deepfakes, and the future...
AI is changing cybersecurity hiring faster than most companies are prepared for. Recruiter Pete Strouse joins @TheCyberMettlePodcast to explain why entry-level roles are disappearing, how GRC is evolving, and what professionals must do to stay relevant. In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Pete Strouse, founder of InfoSec Connect and widely known as “The...
Thinking about the CISM? The exam is changing, and most people misunderstand what it actually tests and validates. Here’s what ISACA really expects, plus how to think like a manager (not an engineer) to pass. In this Cert Corner episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Dr. Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman break down the Certified Information Security Manager (CISM) certification: what it is, what’s changin...
AI isn’t replacing cybersecurity professionals. It’s reshaping what matters. The future belongs to those who can connect the dots, not just execute tasks. In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Frederic (Fred) Descloux to explore one of the biggest shifts happening in cybersecurity today: the return of the generalist. Fred Descloux is the founder of Z...
Scams aren’t what they used to be, and your loved ones are the target. From AI voice cloning to data brokers, this is the conversation families need to have now. This episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast tackles one of the most urgent — and uncomfortable — topics in cybersecurity today: protecting seniors and vulnerable family members from modern scams. Hosts Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman are joi...
Breaking into AI governance, privacy, or cybersecurity isn’t about where you start, it’s about how you think. Dr. Kyle David went from historian to AI governance leader and shows exactly how others can do it too.
In this episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Dr. Kyle David, founder of Dr. David Privacy and creator of leading IAPP certification training programs.
Dr. Dav...
AI isn’t just another tool — it’s changing risk, liability, and how businesses operate. If you’re treating AI like SaaS, you’re already behind. In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman sit down with Graeme Rudd (former Green Beret, recovering lawyer, and founder of Assessed Intelligence) to unpack one of the most urgent issues in modern business: the ...
Most people enter cybersecurity knowing they want "in." Very few know which door to walk through — and the industry does almost nothing to help them figure it out. In this episode, Dr. Omar Sangurima and Alyson Laderman, Esq. break down the full InfoSec color wheel — red, blue, white, purple, orange, yellow, and green teams — and give aspiring professionals, hiring managers, and workforce developers a practical ...
Is the AI Governance Professional (AIGP) cert worth it? Here’s the real, unfiltered breakdown ... immediately after taking the exam. In this Cert Corner episode of The Cyber Mettle Podcast, Omar Sangurima breaks down his experience taking the AI Governance Professional (AIGP) certification from the IAPP just hours after sitting for the exam. From preparation strategies and study tools to exam structure, difficulty, and re...
What does it actually take to build a third-party risk program from the ground up? In this Cert Corner episode, Omar breaks down the Certified Third-Party Risk Professional (CTPRP) certification, what he learned, and who should consider taking it. Third-party risk is one of the fastest-growing challenges in cybersecurity and enterprise risk management. But if you’re tasked with building a vendor risk program, where do you...
AI is transforming agriculture. But are we securing it? Autonomous tractors. Precision farming. Remote sensing. Starlink-connected equipment. The attack surface is growing — and food is critical infrastructure.
In this episode of @TheCyberMettlePodcast , we sit down with Ezekiel “Zeke” McReynolds, cyber defense analyst and agricultural engineer, to explore the intersection of AI, autonomy, and cybers...
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