August 22, 2023 • 28 mins
Have you heard of PMDD? Amy was diagnosed with it in college and took Zoloft for it. This came up because last week on Thursday’s 4 Things episode Danae Hays talked about being put on Zoloft at 11-years-old. When Amy got on it in college it totally changed her personality (for the 2 weeks out of the month that she was supposed to take it), so she didn’t end up taking it too long. Should we be able to take off of work during our time of the month (IF WE NEED TO) without consequences?
TODAY’S QUOTE:
“Confidence is 10 percent hard work and 90 percent delusion. I firmly believe that the number one most important life skill you can learn is how to do scary things scared.” - Tina Fey
OTHER THINGS DISCUSSED:
-The more self-aware you are…the more you realize how much you don’t know
-Mom-shaming, limited viewpoints (mom-shaming examples)
-This is how Keanu Reeves protects his peace: “1 + 1 = 5?? Ok sure, you’re right.” (he just doesn’t want to waste time arguing with people and doesn’t have time for that as he’s gotten older)
-Impromptu actors/movie game
-What are you too old to tolerate? Amy shares a list of things (i.e. standing at a concert, holding pee, waiting in long lines…)
-Share movie recs with us: 4ThingsWithAmyBrown@gmail.com
HOSTS:
Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy
Kat Defatta // @Kat.Defatta // @YouNeedTherapyPodcast // YouNeedTherapyPodcast.com
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And today's quote is from
Tina Fay. Confidence is ten percent hard work and ninety
percent delusion.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The rest of the quote, it just basically says that
she firmly believes that the number one most important life
skill that you can learn is how to do things scared.
So just be delusion that you can do it and
work really hard and figure.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It out even though you're scared, and so it happens. Woila.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But she's one of my favorite comedians. I love Tina Fey,
I love Amy Poehler, I love Heather McMahon.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Being a comedian has to be a terrifying job. Oh yeah.
I feel like it's so vulnerable, especially because people's sense
of humor can be so different, where I can think
something is hilarious or like I might not get a joke,
and to put yourself out there, I know that some
are going to, you know, completely bomb. Which. Speaking of
(00:54):
funny people, Deney Hayes was.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
On My Four Things episode last Thursday, So if y'all
miss that, I highly recommend you check it out. She
blew up on TikTok during the pandemic. She just like
posted something and then overnight hundreds of thousands of followers,
and then now she has two point six million on TikTok.
I found her on Instagram after somebody I reposted her
(01:18):
in their stories and I was like, Oh, that's funny,
and I like following funny people on Instagram because I
like to laugh, and I clicked on her page and
I started following her. And then she had moved to Nashville,
and I was like, oh, she lives here. And we
didn't talk about this in the episode, but this is
how it came to be. I was talking to my
acting coach about taking improv, so I hadn't started yet,
but I was like, oh, I should take improv. And
(01:40):
she goes, actually, my next client is a comedian, and
I'll see if she knows a good place in town
for you to go. And I was like, oh, that'd
be amazing because I don't know what I'm doing or
where to go. And I was a little intimidated. I
was scared, but I was going to figure it out.
And we walk out and I see this girl walking
up the sidewalk and then Bridget our acting coach, was like, oh,
(02:00):
there's my client right now, and I said, oh, I
follow her on Instagram, and so when she walked off,
I just said, hey, I think you're so funny, like,
thank you for your content.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I follow you. And then she said, oh, it's your name,
and I said, oh, I'm Amy.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
She goes, oh, yeah, Amy from the Bobby Bone Show.
She goes, I used to listen to you when I
lived in Tuscaloosa. She goes, I played softball at Alabama
and we're on air there, so she goes, I used
to listen to you when I was in college more regularly.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Because she's like, why don't you listen to me now?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Probably she's not in her car in the morning, driving
anywhere or doing anything. But we do have a podcasts
so you can listen to at any time. So we
just had a quick connection and then I said I
would love to have you on my podcast, and so
we DMed about it and then she came on and
she does a very interesting story and we talked about
her funny and she does think that for her it
(02:45):
came from a place of wanting to feel accepted, and
she said that she just always was striving to make
the adults laugh, like she was coming up with skits
and characters all the time, and she was a kid
on Saturday Nights because Saturday Night Live was her favorite show.
She put on these performances for everybody in her living room.
But she said, yeah, she thinks it came from a
dark place because when I interviewed Tray Kennedy, because that's
(03:05):
most comedians, and Trey Kennedy said, no, it's I don't
have this traumatic childhood.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I just started doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I knew I could make people laugh, and I liked
being creative and coming up with ideas. And then when
Denay and I were talking, she said, Adam Sandler's like that.
She said he's a rare person in the comedian world.
That his comedy and his desire to make people laugh
or his sense of humor isn't coming from a dark,
sad place.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Anyway. The Dnay episode I want you to listen to.
You should have her on your podcast. What did you
guys talk about?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We talked about her start, and some of her characters
joined in. She got this character Sharon, and Sharon came
on and we talked about her childhood and her upbringing
and she is gay and married to her wife Mandy
and just growing up in the South in Alabama and
what that was like for her and her parents and
(03:58):
they had sent her to this conversion therapy and.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What that did with her.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
She developed OCD when she was a kid because of
some of the thoughts she was trying to figure out
and deal with, and because of the OCD, then she
was put on Zoloft at eleven, which I mean, I
got on zoloft when I was in college for PMDD
premenstal discoric disorder.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well I was diagnosed with that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know for sure that I for sure for
your habit, but in college I did go to a
doctor and they did diagnose me for it. So they
had this PMDD zoloft that you took two weeks out
of the month, so whenever that part of your cycle
was amping up, you would take the zoloft to lessen
your I guess emotional reaction to what was happening or
(04:44):
your hormones.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, do you know about this. I don't know the
zoloft thing, but I know what PMDD is and it's
very distressing.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, I mean, and I really struggled in college and
my creams aren't as bad as they used to be
now either. But back then in colle which I remember
sitting to this day. I can picture myself sitting on
this bench outside of a classroom in college about to
just be in a ball crying in the middle of
campus because my cramps were so bad if I couldn't
(05:12):
go into class.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But isn't that crazy that that is something that women,
for the most part, go through once a month, and
it can be so debilitating, but we're still expected to
go to class, get everything done, do the presentation, go
to work, perform all the tasks, and we're like a
tune to like just suck it up and deal with it.
I remember wearing like heating pads to class. Yes, because
(05:36):
this is just part of your life. You can't you
can't stay home for that. That crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think there are certain countries, not US or companies
that do give time off during the time of the
month if you need it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I guess the worry is that if people will abuse it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, but it's like, well it's okay. I guess if
you can verify that someone's not going to abuse it,
then having that time off would be because you're not
functioning your highest potential anyway, not at least I'm not
if I'm in that much pain or I wasn't back then. Again,
they're really not as bad right now. But I know
what the zolof did to me during those two weeks
(06:13):
that I was on it, and I didn't enjoy the feeling. Now,
I know certain people need that medication and it's done
well for them, and that's great. But for me, I
remember how it altered so much of who I was,
and so I thought, well, okay, sort of a cash
twenty two, like what do you do here? And so
picturing Denay on it at eleven and being this funny,
(06:34):
outgoing kid that's so creative. I just didn't know if
that affected her or not. And so she talked about
that and just her career now is blowing up. She
put out a country comedy song that has turned into
now she's recording an album, she signed a record deal.
She's going to be in a movie, which is why
she was with my acting coach or we have the
(06:54):
same one.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's hers two. So what did she do before she
blew up on TikTok? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
She was doing real estate? I know, point yeah, that's hilarious.
And she was such a good softball player. I think
she could have pursued that, but I don't know that
she wanted to go the pro softball route or play
that longer. I don't know the pro softball life, yeah,
or what that is like. But somewhere between college and
what she's doing now, she was selling real estate.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That is wild. What TikTok has done for so many people,
like an accidental viral video changes the trajectory of their
whole life.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, some being accidental and some just people grinding it
out and posting tons of stuff with no fear of
what's going to and they're scared and hey, this may
get zero likes or this may get five views, but
I'm going to keep putting it up no matter what.
And then eventually one hits and the next thing you know, Yeah,
they're a viral sensation.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Doesn't you think about Walker Hayes. He sings my four.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Things Oh yeahs and his song blew Up, which he
recorded that over five years ago. And I'm close enough
with Walker to where I think if he had blown Up,
I could still go to him and say, hey, can
you record my podcast theme song? But where he is now,
I don't know that I would have felt comfortable. But
back then I was like Walker, because he's so talented.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I have a great opportunity for you. Well, no, it
wasn't even that it was an opportunity. I just knew
he had more time.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
He was busy, don't get me wrong, but I mean
now he's like busy busy. I mean, of course he's busy.
He has like a bajillion kids, and he's a very
involved dad and dedicated to his wife Laney, And he's
someone that was grinding it out and so talented. And
then while La Fancy like goes viral on TikTok with
(08:40):
the dance and boom, it changed the entire trajectory of
his life.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Applebee's is like, Yo, what up? Because he I was like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
If I was an artist, I was saying about a
place I went in every song or that I love
to go, Like, what would we put into our songs?
I would forget Amazon just so I could get discount.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Chick fil A.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh yeah, that would be a good one. I love
Chick fil A. My kids do not like it, which
still blows my mind because I feel like every kid
in the world likes Chick fil A and sometimes when
we're trying to figure out what to do for dinner
and we're running around, I try to say, hey, don't
want to go to Chick fil A? And I secretly
A'm like, please say yes, Please say yes, please say
yes inside my head, and then they don't.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
What's their favorite? Like fast food?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Chipotle, which I could sing about that as well, Jimmy
John's Crumble.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We'd be singing about Crumble Crumble. I would do that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Lululemon, we were just talking about how we like that,
but it's too expensive, so I mean, it's just so
expensive it's painful. But I do like their the leggings.
I found a new kind that I like, and it's
the a Ligne. You said you don't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
They don't make the kind that I like. But I
used to get a discount because I taught fitness, and
now I'm like, oh, I feel so spoiled my whole life.
I've been able to buy everything on a discount. Now
I can't. So yeah, I'll sing about you and then
you can let us know its product and I all
writes jingles.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We'll sing some songs and everything will be good, speaking
of like knowing things and not knowing things because you're
a therapist. Do you know the the Dunning Krueger effect
(10:21):
speaking of like knowing things and not knowing things because
you're a therapist.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Do you know the Dunning Kruger effect. Do you know
what that is? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So TJ Osborne, he's in Brothers Osborne and he used
to be my neighbor. Great guy, really nice. I follow
him on Instagram, like his personal account, not the Brothers
Osborne one. So TJ had put up this thing in
his stories and it said the Dunning Kruger effect, if
I'm saying that correctly, but it said smart people tend
to underestimate their capabilities, and then people that actually don't
(10:51):
know anything think that they're the smartest person in the room.
I'm paraprising, Okay, that or they don't know anything about
what they're talking about and they're trying to like give
you advice on it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I've never heard of this before, but that goes along
with like what I believe about self awareness is the
weird thing about self awareness is the more self aware
I am, the more aware I am of how much
I don't know. So people who are more intelligent are
more open to the fact that there's so much stuff
they don't know about a subject, or so many answers
to questions that they might need to ask somebody else for.
(11:23):
But if you don't know a lot about a subject,
you might underestimate how complex it is.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yes, but then why are some people why do they
still want to act like they know everything that they're
talking about?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I know people like self confidence.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's total judgment too at times when someone is giving
you advice on something that you haven't asked for, like
mom shaming in a way can be.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
This is an example that would.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Be someone that doesn't have kids, They have zero experience
and what they're talking about that they're like, hey, well
this is what my parents did and I turned out good, right,
And so then you're also assuming you turn good.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But it's interesting because your parents are great.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But like, I was reading this whole article that had
that is like such a mom shame situation right there,
and I was like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
One thing that I've learned is and it's changed my
view on how I view a lot of things. But
exposure is what actually gives us an opportunity to learn
about something and open our minds, to change our minds
and if I've never had kids, I have this limited
view of what I think it's like to be a
parent and what I would do, but I've never had
that experience of actually doing it. So I'm making all
(12:31):
these judgements and I think I know, but I actually
have no idea what I actually do and do not know.
When I become a parent, then I have that experience of,
oh my gosh, this is not what I thought it
would be. Like I can give you all the parenting
advice all day long based on what I think I
would do, but I don't really know if I would
actually do that.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And I honestly think that sometimes when people are doing that,
they're trying to be helpful and they don't mean harm.
But if you really dissect it, it's a form of judgment.
Right now, I'm thinking, you don't really know what you're doing.
I'm gonna tell you what my parents did back in
the day, because look out amazing, I am so great
and it really worked in our house. I saw this
thing that Keanu Reeves had said about arguing with people,
(13:12):
and as you get older in life, or as he
gets older in life, like his ability to tolerate people
just goes down. But then it's like, why even make
it a thing? Like why I even call someone out
on that? Because it's just not worth the time. And
he said that he protects his peace by refusing to
argue with anyone about anything. He said, one plus one
equals five. Okay, sure you're right.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Have fun like my day.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But it's like you want to say, no, it's hot. No,
one plus one is two, But who cares?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You think it's five? Go right on ahead and you
do you what's it affecting me? That's the let them
thing that Mel Robbins posts about, like let them let
them believe that I'm gonna let myself go over here
and enjoy my one plus one equals too by myself.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah or yeah, if they want to go do that
and they didn't invite you, let them? Why let it
take up space in your brain? Which there's a whole
list of things that I could think of with getting
too old, and I don't want to tolerate certain things.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What's your question? I'm just thinking about, Keanu Reeves. Can
you name something you need? Speed?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
One?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Speed two? What's speed? You've ever seen? Speed? We're on
the bus. They can't stop the bus. No, I've never
heard of that. But I know he's a really famous person,
but I don't know one thing he's in.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Also, Jack Reacher, is that it? People love Jack Jack
the Ripper, No Jack Reacher. Wait is that Tom Cruise
or that's Tom Cruise?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Hold on, I think this is proving my point though.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Keanna Reeves people say he's the nicest celebrity ever.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Really mm hmm. They say, because he let he's protecting
his piece, like he saved saves lives. What do you
mean he saves lives?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
For example, I just pulled up an article on Insider
fifteen reasons fans believe Keanu Reeves is the greatest person ever.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
This was just a few.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
He once gave up his seat on a crowded New
York City subway to a woman with a large bag.
He has made positive headlines for how he treats women
when he takes photos with them.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I guess he's respectful.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
The John Wick star once bought an ice cream just
so he could autograph a receipt for a young fan.
That's John Wick. That's who it is, not Jack Reacher,
John Wick.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I don't know who John Wick is either.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
People like those movies after a flight Reeves was on
made an emergency landing. He took a road trip with
his fellow stranded passengers. That sounds like a movie. The
actor secretly donates huge sums of money to children's hospitals.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So see, I knew he saved lives. Okay, that's how
I literally thought.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He pulled over on the side of the road and
I don't know, gave CPR to someone that almost died,
or pulled them from a burning car or something. But
maybe that was in a movie, But I thought he
had done something like that to save someone's life.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I swear. Wait, no, I found that article Keanu Reeves
once came to a lost fans rescue and that really hills.
These are the stories on the internet. We don't actually
know these things happen though. Well yeah, I mean who knows.
I mean, I'm not a big Keanu Reeves fan. I
just know that people think he's the nicest ever. And also,
back in the day, Bill and Ted's excellent Adventure. You
might be too young for that. Have you seen it?
Heard of it? Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's good, And I think they did a remake, right, Yeah,
there's the original and then they did a remake, so
you should watch that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay. I just think that there's so many celebrities that
are famous, and I'm like, I couldn't name one movie
that or one song that that person's saying, Give me one.
Do you have any in your head? Like another person?
Name one movie that Robert Downey.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Junior is in, Ironman, and then Clint Eastwood Wait, Ironman two,
Ironman three?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Just kidding it's Clint Eastwood, an actor or a director both.
Name one movie he was in he's ninety three. Did
you know that? No? Uh huh, he looks pretty old
in this picture. He's very old.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So Clint Eastwood some probably some way. Gosh, he was
in that one where they were on a porch and
there was a gun.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Any movie there is Daniel Craig, James Fond. Oh, maybe
it's just me the mule some thinking about maybe with
Clint Eastwood. Anyway, Name a George Clooney movie Space. Never
heard of that.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Hey, we're they're in space with Sandra Bullock. Also probably
some sort of romantic comedy with Jennifer Lopez somewhere or somehow.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
My last I have one more Liam Neeson taken. Oh, okay,
I have a certain amount of skills and my skills
will kill you or something like that. Okay, maybe I
just don't watch enough movies, George cle Oh, it's not
called space. I knew that was. That's why I've never
(17:48):
seen it. It's called gravity. But that's hilarious. But there
are plenty of Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I saw a George Cloney movie in the theater not
too long ago with Julia Roberts Ticket to Paradise. It
was a fun romantic comedy. And I love Julia Roberts.
And if you want to know movie, she's in Pretty Woman,
my best friend's wedding step Still Magnolius, Stepmom is one. Yes,
she's in so many good ones. We should do a
(18:21):
like we pick an actor or an actress. I guess
we would just say I think you can say actor
for both and watch every single thing they've ever made.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That sounds time consuming, Well there's no timeline. Okay, just
try to do it. Okay, to support female actors, well
it can be male too. You could do Keanu Reeves
and I could do Joy Roberts. That's not fair, George Looney.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oceans Movies, Oceans eleven, Oceans Ring twelve thirteen. However, many
Julia Roberts is in one of those two See.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
In a Oceans movie. She at one time was the
highest paid actress of all time. I wonder who that
is now. Joey Roberts is in one of those too.
See in at Oceans movie. She at one time was
(19:16):
the highest paid actress of all time. I wonder who
that is now. I think I read somewhere that it
was Zoe Saldana had at one point done it because
she was in the Avatar movies. Apparently those make a
lot of money. I've never seen. They are not my thing.
But she was incredible in that short series Scratch on Netflix.
(19:36):
That was some of the best acting I've ever seen.
If you haven't seen that yet, you did watch it.
I did watch it. I liked it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I thought it was really good. It's sad there, it's
very sad. Be prepared to cry. Sandra Bullock.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Look at her. Maybe it was gravity that did that
for her.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
She's the number it says list of the top ten
highest paid actresses in twenty twenty three. Sandra Bullocks, Scarlett Johansson,
Sophia Vergara, Reese Witherspoon, Angelina Jolie. But I feel like
a lot of other people aren't in for Aniston, Jennifer Lawrence,
Melissa McCarthy love her. She's amazing, She's so funny. What
has Angelina Jolie been in recently? Can you name something
(20:13):
in the last couple of.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Years, mister and missus Smith, that's probably early two thousands.
Maybe it's just what someone could charge if they were
in it in a movie, because I can't think of
the last thing I saw with her in it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Okay, well, I just typed in Angelina Jolie's latest movies
and I don't know any of them, so yeah, not
really sure, but maybe knowing what movies are out and
what actors and actresses are in movies, I'm too.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Old for that. I don't know, don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Which I wanted to go over things that I feel
like I'm getting too old to tolerate.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Okaycause I'm forty two and you're thirty two. Okay, let
me see. Can I say, like you think you're too
old for them? I'm gonna say I've reach that level yet.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, we'll see how we compare because we're exactly ten
years apart. What about concerts with assigned seating, like I
want to have my seat, Like I just don't want
to show up and like stand around.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I've never been able to tolerate that. I have to
have a seat. Oh okay, cool. Lack of sleep? Is
that an old person thing. I've never been able tolerate
that either. Oh we see, maybe you're old. I guess
like when you're young, you like go out. But I've
always been like somebody who wants to be in bed
at nine point thirty. Okay, so yeah, you're just different.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
But I think that when we were younger, we could
bounce back faster.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Right. I just can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like if I have one cocktail, I have to take
an undo the booze pill.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I haven't reached that level. This do work? Caring about
people who don't care about you? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sitting on the floor like an uncomfortable position, Like my
body cannot handle that anymore. In fact, I need to
go see a chiropractor, like asap. Do you have body issues?
I was gonna say I, but is currently hurting from
this chair?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh that's nice chair too. I need some more cushion.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Keeping up with like the new slang and what people
are saying and how they're saying it, like I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think I'm probably too old for that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I try with my kids, and then I'm always a
little behind, and then I sound awkward.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
We don't sound right when we say the things that
the kids are saying.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, right now, I'm feeling too old to tolerate holding
my pee because I have got to go to the bathroom.
But I'll I'll get through it. I'll hold it and
then probably have to run.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Are you gonna be okay? I think of it to
be okay, But I'm getting too old for it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And people know what I'm talking about is women especially
we have to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I feel like I probably need to work on that
because I will go from nine to three o'clock and
not use the restroom. Yeah, I don't know how you
do that. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And then waiting in line, I feel like if I
have to stand for long periods of time, it's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean, I have to do it, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Like, gosh, I'm getting a little too old for this,
Like should I just come back later?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Like you wouldn't stand in line? Well, I guess you
have to do it anymore. Remember you used to have
to go to the grocery store to get tickets to
a concert, like ticket Master was at Kroger. Yeah. I
don't know if people have to stand in line anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You have just like wait in a queue on the
internet forever, right, and then your computer crashes.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah? Yeah, So like in the grocery store, if the
lines are really long, do you go home? No? No,
but I think about it.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a long time,
and I don't want to stand here, and I guess
I'll try to do self check out.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
If you went to the Taylor Swift concert, would you
stand in line to buy merch? Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Luckily, Stashira got a Taylor Swift merch shirt when she
went to Taylor Swift because I didn't go, and I
love the shirt so much.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
It's so cute, so I wear it. But you didn't
have to stand I didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Have to stand in line for it, but I probably
would because some of the stuff was cute. At the
George Strait concert, I stood in line for merch and
I got this denim jacket that has a George Straight
patch on the back. So I mean, I guess I'll
do that if I'm at a concert and having fun.
I guess if I'm distracted by the fun, I can't
feel the pain. But look at my toes right now,
Look at my toes. See these band aids on both
(23:51):
my pinky toes. Yeah, it's because I wore heels for
two days in a row, and these heels are actually comfortable.
But I was doing some walking, and honestly, I think
that's why I might need to see my chiropractor too,
is because of the heels. Like there's these tender spots
on my back and then my toes. Like what, I'm
getting too old to tolerate cute heels.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I've never been able to tolerate cute heels, so you ever, Yeah,
I don't wear, ever wear. I wear heels to like
a wedding or an event, but I also have to
wear like the chunky heels because I'm not trying to
roll my ankle. I guess because I've never been in
a situation where I've had to wear heels a lot
for something I've never really I feel like I have
(24:31):
never learned how to walk in the high heels except
for comfy shoes.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, for your wedding, you're gonna wear heels at the wedding,
but then you're changing into Nike Air Force ones.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Oh yeah, because I need to feel free and I
need to be able to dance and move. And I
hate being uncomfortable. I don't like being uncomfortable in what
I'm wearing. I don't like being uncomfortable in the way
like my hair is done if it's too tight. So
my wedding, I said everything about this, and he said,
I need to feel comfortable so I have the most fun.
It's good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
My dress is very flowy, so as a bridesmaid, I
can put on sneakers after the wedding too.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, and maybe there might be a pair. Oh is
that why you asked us our shoe size. I don't know.
Maybe there might be something for you to feel comfortable to.
I think I just figured it out. Oh.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I pulled up this whole thing about phrases that are
actually mom shaming. Do you want to hear some of
the other ones? Okay, oh you do. Oh, we don't
allow that in our house. Whatever it is like you
do x.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Oh, we don't. We don't allow that.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh well, oh, that's never been an issue for us,
probably because we.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Did this from the beginning. Oh, like ways or just
people are like, oh, I just want them up. Well,
have you tried blank?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It works wonders for us, which I mean if you
are a mom, I kind of do want to hear
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, we decided that when we became parents we would
never and there's a lot I decided when I came
a parent that I thought it was never going to do,
and trust me, it all fell through the that went
to the wayside.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That was when I was living in La La Lands.
I feel like a lot of those comments are accidentally
unkind Oh, when I'm mom, I definitely won't do that.
But to each their own, Oh, how would you respond
if somebody said that to you? If somebody was like, oh,
we don't allow that in our home.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Honestly, I would respond internally with myself. I would start
to question myself and like, I don't think I would
stand up for myself in a way. Now that I'm
maybe more aware of it, I would think, oh, well,
I'm glad that works for you. Maybe that would be
my response, But I think my gut reaction would be
internal and I would start judging myself and be like,
(26:39):
you know what, maybe they're right.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
What am I doing wrong? Or maybe I should do that?
I wonder if you could take a little of Keanu
Reeves inspiration.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh I could just look at them and say, okay,
oh yeah, and I bet you.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Believe one plus one plus five. I think you should
try that. That's your homework. Yep, Hey have fun? Bye?
All right? Kat? Where can people find you? On Instagram
at Kat dot defauda and at You Need Therapy Podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Which make sure y'all check out her episodes. On Mondays
there's full episodes that are interviews or longer form topics,
and then on Wednesday she does her bonus episode it's
called couch Talks, or she does.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
A Q and A.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
And if you've got a question for her and you
want it answered, because she is an amazing therapist, you
can email.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Her Katherine at Therapy podcast dot com.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And you can email me four Things with Amy Brown
at gmail dot com to send us questions for the
fifth thing or anything else you want to share about
the podcast, your life or what you have going on,
or if you want to shame us or judge us
in anyway, or tell us all that you know and
why you're better and you're doing everything right or if
there's any good movies we need to watch.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That I will accept the others I don't know that
I want.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, I'm at Radio Amy on Instagram. And I'll see
Thursday for four things and then Kat and I'll be
back together next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Whoop ye bye,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat And today's quote is from
Tina Fay. Confidence is ten percent hard work and ninety
percent delusion.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Ooh.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The rest of the quote, it just basically says that
she firmly believes that the number one most important life
skill that you can learn is how to do things scared.
So just be delusion that you can do it and
work really hard and figure.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It out even though you're scared, and so it happens. Woila.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
But she's one of my favorite comedians. I love Tina Fey,
I love Amy Poehler, I love Heather McMahon.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Being a comedian has to be a terrifying job. Oh yeah.
I feel like it's so vulnerable, especially because people's sense
of humor can be so different, where I can think
something is hilarious or like I might not get a joke,
and to put yourself out there, I know that some
are going to, you know, completely bomb. Which. Speaking of
(00:54):
funny people, Deney Hayes was.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
On My Four Things episode last Thursday, So if y'all
miss that, I highly recommend you check it out. She
blew up on TikTok during the pandemic. She just like
posted something and then overnight hundreds of thousands of followers,
and then now she has two point six million on TikTok.
I found her on Instagram after somebody I reposted her
(01:18):
in their stories and I was like, Oh, that's funny,
and I like following funny people on Instagram because I
like to laugh, and I clicked on her page and
I started following her. And then she had moved to Nashville,
and I was like, oh, she lives here. And we
didn't talk about this in the episode, but this is
how it came to be. I was talking to my
acting coach about taking improv, so I hadn't started yet,
but I was like, oh, I should take improv. And
(01:40):
she goes, actually, my next client is a comedian, and
I'll see if she knows a good place in town
for you to go. And I was like, oh, that'd
be amazing because I don't know what I'm doing or
where to go. And I was a little intimidated. I
was scared, but I was going to figure it out.
And we walk out and I see this girl walking
up the sidewalk and then Bridget our acting coach, was like, oh,
(02:00):
there's my client right now, and I said, oh, I
follow her on Instagram, and so when she walked off,
I just said, hey, I think you're so funny, like,
thank you for your content.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I follow you. And then she said, oh, it's your name,
and I said, oh, I'm Amy.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
She goes, oh, yeah, Amy from the Bobby Bone Show.
She goes, I used to listen to you when I
lived in Tuscaloosa. She goes, I played softball at Alabama
and we're on air there, so she goes, I used
to listen to you when I was in college more regularly.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Because she's like, why don't you listen to me now?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Probably she's not in her car in the morning, driving
anywhere or doing anything. But we do have a podcasts
so you can listen to at any time. So we
just had a quick connection and then I said I
would love to have you on my podcast, and so
we DMed about it and then she came on and
she does a very interesting story and we talked about
her funny and she does think that for her it
(02:45):
came from a place of wanting to feel accepted, and
she said that she just always was striving to make
the adults laugh, like she was coming up with skits
and characters all the time, and she was a kid
on Saturday Nights because Saturday Night Live was her favorite show.
She put on these performances for everybody in her living room.
But she said, yeah, she thinks it came from a
dark place because when I interviewed Tray Kennedy, because that's
(03:05):
most comedians, and Trey Kennedy said, no, it's I don't
have this traumatic childhood.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I just started doing it.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I knew I could make people laugh, and I liked
being creative and coming up with ideas. And then when
Denay and I were talking, she said, Adam Sandler's like that.
She said he's a rare person in the comedian world.
That his comedy and his desire to make people laugh
or his sense of humor isn't coming from a dark,
sad place.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Anyway. The Dnay episode I want you to listen to.
You should have her on your podcast. What did you
guys talk about?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We talked about her start, and some of her characters
joined in. She got this character Sharon, and Sharon came
on and we talked about her childhood and her upbringing
and she is gay and married to her wife Mandy
and just growing up in the South in Alabama and
what that was like for her and her parents and
(03:58):
they had sent her to this conversion therapy and.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
What that did with her.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
She developed OCD when she was a kid because of
some of the thoughts she was trying to figure out
and deal with, and because of the OCD, then she
was put on Zoloft at eleven, which I mean, I
got on zoloft when I was in college for PMDD
premenstal discoric disorder.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well I was diagnosed with that.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I don't know for sure that I for sure for
your habit, but in college I did go to a
doctor and they did diagnose me for it. So they
had this PMDD zoloft that you took two weeks out
of the month, so whenever that part of your cycle
was amping up, you would take the zoloft to lessen
your I guess emotional reaction to what was happening or
(04:44):
your hormones.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, do you know about this. I don't know the
zoloft thing, but I know what PMDD is and it's
very distressing.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, I mean, and I really struggled in college and
my creams aren't as bad as they used to be
now either. But back then in colle which I remember
sitting to this day. I can picture myself sitting on
this bench outside of a classroom in college about to
just be in a ball crying in the middle of
campus because my cramps were so bad if I couldn't
(05:12):
go into class.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But isn't that crazy that that is something that women,
for the most part, go through once a month, and
it can be so debilitating, but we're still expected to
go to class, get everything done, do the presentation, go
to work, perform all the tasks, and we're like a
tune to like just suck it up and deal with it.
I remember wearing like heating pads to class. Yes, because
(05:36):
this is just part of your life. You can't you
can't stay home for that. That crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I think there are certain countries, not US or companies
that do give time off during the time of the
month if you need it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I guess the worry is that if people will abuse it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, but it's like, well it's okay. I guess if
you can verify that someone's not going to abuse it,
then having that time off would be because you're not
functioning your highest potential anyway, not at least I'm not
if I'm in that much pain or I wasn't back then. Again,
they're really not as bad right now. But I know
what the zolof did to me during those two weeks
(06:13):
that I was on it, and I didn't enjoy the feeling. Now,
I know certain people need that medication and it's done
well for them, and that's great. But for me, I
remember how it altered so much of who I was,
and so I thought, well, okay, sort of a cash
twenty two, like what do you do here? And so
picturing Denay on it at eleven and being this funny,
(06:34):
outgoing kid that's so creative. I just didn't know if
that affected her or not. And so she talked about
that and just her career now is blowing up. She
put out a country comedy song that has turned into
now she's recording an album, she signed a record deal.
She's going to be in a movie, which is why
she was with my acting coach or we have the
(06:54):
same one.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's hers two. So what did she do before she
blew up on TikTok? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
She was doing real estate? I know, point yeah, that's hilarious.
And she was such a good softball player. I think
she could have pursued that, but I don't know that
she wanted to go the pro softball route or play
that longer. I don't know the pro softball life, yeah,
or what that is like. But somewhere between college and
what she's doing now, she was selling real estate.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That is wild. What TikTok has done for so many people,
like an accidental viral video changes the trajectory of their
whole life.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, some being accidental and some just people grinding it
out and posting tons of stuff with no fear of
what's going to and they're scared and hey, this may
get zero likes or this may get five views, but
I'm going to keep putting it up no matter what.
And then eventually one hits and the next thing you know, Yeah,
they're a viral sensation.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Doesn't you think about Walker Hayes. He sings my four.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Things Oh yeahs and his song blew Up, which he
recorded that over five years ago. And I'm close enough
with Walker to where I think if he had blown Up,
I could still go to him and say, hey, can
you record my podcast theme song? But where he is now,
I don't know that I would have felt comfortable. But
back then I was like Walker, because he's so talented.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I have a great opportunity for you. Well, no, it
wasn't even that it was an opportunity. I just knew
he had more time.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
He was busy, don't get me wrong, but I mean
now he's like busy busy. I mean, of course he's busy.
He has like a bajillion kids, and he's a very
involved dad and dedicated to his wife Laney, And he's
someone that was grinding it out and so talented. And
then while La Fancy like goes viral on TikTok with
(08:40):
the dance and boom, it changed the entire trajectory of
his life.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Applebee's is like, Yo, what up? Because he I was like,
oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
If I was an artist, I was saying about a
place I went in every song or that I love
to go, Like, what would we put into our songs?
I would forget Amazon just so I could get discount.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Chick fil A.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Oh yeah, that would be a good one. I love
Chick fil A. My kids do not like it, which
still blows my mind because I feel like every kid
in the world likes Chick fil A and sometimes when
we're trying to figure out what to do for dinner
and we're running around, I try to say, hey, don't
want to go to Chick fil A? And I secretly
A'm like, please say yes, Please say yes, please say
yes inside my head, and then they don't.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
What's their favorite? Like fast food?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Chipotle, which I could sing about that as well, Jimmy
John's Crumble.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
We'd be singing about Crumble Crumble. I would do that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Lululemon, we were just talking about how we like that,
but it's too expensive, so I mean, it's just so
expensive it's painful. But I do like their the leggings.
I found a new kind that I like, and it's
the a Ligne. You said you don't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
They don't make the kind that I like. But I
used to get a discount because I taught fitness, and
now I'm like, oh, I feel so spoiled my whole life.
I've been able to buy everything on a discount. Now
I can't. So yeah, I'll sing about you and then
you can let us know its product and I all
writes jingles.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We'll sing some songs and everything will be good, speaking
of like knowing things and not knowing things because you're
a therapist. Do you know the the Dunning Krueger effect
(10:21):
speaking of like knowing things and not knowing things because
you're a therapist.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Do you know the Dunning Kruger effect. Do you know
what that is? Okay?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So TJ Osborne, he's in Brothers Osborne and he used
to be my neighbor. Great guy, really nice. I follow
him on Instagram, like his personal account, not the Brothers
Osborne one. So TJ had put up this thing in
his stories and it said the Dunning Kruger effect, if
I'm saying that correctly, but it said smart people tend
to underestimate their capabilities, and then people that actually don't
(10:51):
know anything think that they're the smartest person in the room.
I'm paraprising, Okay, that or they don't know anything about
what they're talking about and they're trying to like give
you advice on it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I've never heard of this before, but that goes along
with like what I believe about self awareness is the
weird thing about self awareness is the more self aware
I am, the more aware I am of how much
I don't know. So people who are more intelligent are
more open to the fact that there's so much stuff
they don't know about a subject, or so many answers
to questions that they might need to ask somebody else for.
(11:23):
But if you don't know a lot about a subject,
you might underestimate how complex it is.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yes, but then why are some people why do they
still want to act like they know everything that they're
talking about?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I know people like self confidence.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's total judgment too at times when someone is giving
you advice on something that you haven't asked for, like
mom shaming in a way can be.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
This is an example that would.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Be someone that doesn't have kids, They have zero experience
and what they're talking about that they're like, hey, well
this is what my parents did and I turned out good, right,
And so then you're also assuming you turn good.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But it's interesting because your parents are great.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But like, I was reading this whole article that had
that is like such a mom shame situation right there,
and I was like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
One thing that I've learned is and it's changed my
view on how I view a lot of things. But
exposure is what actually gives us an opportunity to learn
about something and open our minds, to change our minds
and if I've never had kids, I have this limited
view of what I think it's like to be a
parent and what I would do, but I've never had
that experience of actually doing it. So I'm making all
(12:31):
these judgements and I think I know, but I actually
have no idea what I actually do and do not know.
When I become a parent, then I have that experience of,
oh my gosh, this is not what I thought it
would be. Like I can give you all the parenting
advice all day long based on what I think I
would do, but I don't really know if I would
actually do that.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
And I honestly think that sometimes when people are doing that,
they're trying to be helpful and they don't mean harm.
But if you really dissect it, it's a form of judgment.
Right now, I'm thinking, you don't really know what you're doing.
I'm gonna tell you what my parents did back in
the day, because look out amazing, I am so great
and it really worked in our house. I saw this
thing that Keanu Reeves had said about arguing with people,
(13:12):
and as you get older in life, or as he
gets older in life, like his ability to tolerate people
just goes down. But then it's like, why even make
it a thing? Like why I even call someone out
on that? Because it's just not worth the time. And
he said that he protects his peace by refusing to
argue with anyone about anything. He said, one plus one
equals five. Okay, sure you're right.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Have fun like my day.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
But it's like you want to say, no, it's hot. No,
one plus one is two, But who cares?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You think it's five? Go right on ahead and you
do you what's it affecting me? That's the let them
thing that Mel Robbins posts about, like let them let
them believe that I'm gonna let myself go over here
and enjoy my one plus one equals too by myself.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Yeah or yeah, if they want to go do that
and they didn't invite you, let them? Why let it
take up space in your brain? Which there's a whole
list of things that I could think of with getting
too old, and I don't want to tolerate certain things.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
What's your question? I'm just thinking about, Keanu Reeves. Can
you name something you need? Speed?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
One?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Speed two? What's speed? You've ever seen? Speed? We're on
the bus. They can't stop the bus. No, I've never
heard of that. But I know he's a really famous person,
but I don't know one thing he's in.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Also, Jack Reacher, is that it? People love Jack Jack
the Ripper, No Jack Reacher. Wait is that Tom Cruise
or that's Tom Cruise?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Hold on, I think this is proving my point though.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Keanna Reeves people say he's the nicest celebrity ever.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Really mm hmm. They say, because he let he's protecting
his piece, like he saved saves lives. What do you
mean he saves lives?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
For example, I just pulled up an article on Insider
fifteen reasons fans believe Keanu Reeves is the greatest person ever.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
This was just a few.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
He once gave up his seat on a crowded New
York City subway to a woman with a large bag.
He has made positive headlines for how he treats women
when he takes photos with them.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I guess he's respectful.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
The John Wick star once bought an ice cream just
so he could autograph a receipt for a young fan.
That's John Wick. That's who it is, not Jack Reacher,
John Wick.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I don't know who John Wick is either.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
People like those movies after a flight Reeves was on
made an emergency landing. He took a road trip with
his fellow stranded passengers. That sounds like a movie. The
actor secretly donates huge sums of money to children's hospitals.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So see, I knew he saved lives. Okay, that's how
I literally thought.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
He pulled over on the side of the road and
I don't know, gave CPR to someone that almost died,
or pulled them from a burning car or something. But
maybe that was in a movie, But I thought he
had done something like that to save someone's life.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
I swear. Wait, no, I found that article Keanu Reeves
once came to a lost fans rescue and that really hills.
These are the stories on the internet. We don't actually
know these things happen though. Well yeah, I mean who knows.
I mean, I'm not a big Keanu Reeves fan. I
just know that people think he's the nicest ever. And also,
back in the day, Bill and Ted's excellent Adventure. You
might be too young for that. Have you seen it?
Heard of it? Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's good, And I think they did a remake, right, Yeah,
there's the original and then they did a remake, so
you should watch that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay. I just think that there's so many celebrities that
are famous, and I'm like, I couldn't name one movie
that or one song that that person's saying, Give me one.
Do you have any in your head? Like another person?
Name one movie that Robert Downey.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Junior is in, Ironman, and then Clint Eastwood Wait, Ironman two,
Ironman three?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Just kidding it's Clint Eastwood, an actor or a director both.
Name one movie he was in he's ninety three. Did
you know that? No? Uh huh, he looks pretty old
in this picture. He's very old.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So Clint Eastwood some probably some way. Gosh, he was
in that one where they were on a porch and
there was a gun.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Any movie there is Daniel Craig, James Fond. Oh, maybe
it's just me the mule some thinking about maybe with
Clint Eastwood. Anyway, Name a George Clooney movie Space. Never
heard of that.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Hey, we're they're in space with Sandra Bullock. Also probably
some sort of romantic comedy with Jennifer Lopez somewhere or somehow.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
My last I have one more Liam Neeson taken. Oh, okay,
I have a certain amount of skills and my skills
will kill you or something like that. Okay, maybe I
just don't watch enough movies, George cle Oh, it's not
called space. I knew that was. That's why I've never
(17:48):
seen it. It's called gravity. But that's hilarious. But there
are plenty of Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I saw a George Cloney movie in the theater not
too long ago with Julia Roberts Ticket to Paradise. It
was a fun romantic comedy. And I love Julia Roberts.
And if you want to know movie, she's in Pretty Woman,
my best friend's wedding step Still Magnolius, Stepmom is one. Yes,
she's in so many good ones. We should do a
(18:21):
like we pick an actor or an actress. I guess
we would just say I think you can say actor
for both and watch every single thing they've ever made.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That sounds time consuming, Well there's no timeline. Okay, just
try to do it. Okay, to support female actors, well
it can be male too. You could do Keanu Reeves
and I could do Joy Roberts. That's not fair, George Looney.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Oceans Movies, Oceans eleven, Oceans Ring twelve thirteen. However, many
Julia Roberts is in one of those two See.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
In a Oceans movie. She at one time was the
highest paid actress of all time. I wonder who that
is now. Joey Roberts is in one of those too.
See in at Oceans movie. She at one time was
(19:16):
the highest paid actress of all time. I wonder who
that is now. I think I read somewhere that it
was Zoe Saldana had at one point done it because
she was in the Avatar movies. Apparently those make a
lot of money. I've never seen. They are not my thing.
But she was incredible in that short series Scratch on Netflix.
(19:36):
That was some of the best acting I've ever seen.
If you haven't seen that yet, you did watch it.
I did watch it. I liked it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I thought it was really good. It's sad there, it's
very sad. Be prepared to cry. Sandra Bullock.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Look at her. Maybe it was gravity that did that
for her.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
She's the number it says list of the top ten
highest paid actresses in twenty twenty three. Sandra Bullocks, Scarlett Johansson,
Sophia Vergara, Reese Witherspoon, Angelina Jolie. But I feel like
a lot of other people aren't in for Aniston, Jennifer Lawrence,
Melissa McCarthy love her. She's amazing, She's so funny. What
has Angelina Jolie been in recently? Can you name something
(20:13):
in the last couple of.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Years, mister and missus Smith, that's probably early two thousands.
Maybe it's just what someone could charge if they were
in it in a movie, because I can't think of
the last thing I saw with her in it.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Okay, well, I just typed in Angelina Jolie's latest movies
and I don't know any of them, so yeah, not
really sure, but maybe knowing what movies are out and
what actors and actresses are in movies, I'm too.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Old for that. I don't know, don't care.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Which I wanted to go over things that I feel
like I'm getting too old to tolerate.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Okaycause I'm forty two and you're thirty two. Okay, let
me see. Can I say, like you think you're too
old for them? I'm gonna say I've reach that level yet.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, we'll see how we compare because we're exactly ten
years apart. What about concerts with assigned seating, like I
want to have my seat, Like I just don't want
to show up and like stand around.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I've never been able to tolerate that. I have to
have a seat. Oh okay, cool. Lack of sleep? Is
that an old person thing. I've never been able tolerate
that either. Oh we see, maybe you're old. I guess
like when you're young, you like go out. But I've
always been like somebody who wants to be in bed
at nine point thirty. Okay, so yeah, you're just different.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
But I think that when we were younger, we could
bounce back faster.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Right. I just can't do that anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Like if I have one cocktail, I have to take
an undo the booze pill.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I haven't reached that level. This do work? Caring about
people who don't care about you? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Sitting on the floor like an uncomfortable position, Like my
body cannot handle that anymore. In fact, I need to
go see a chiropractor, like asap. Do you have body issues?
I was gonna say I, but is currently hurting from
this chair?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh that's nice chair too. I need some more cushion.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Keeping up with like the new slang and what people
are saying and how they're saying it, like I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think I'm probably too old for that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I try with my kids, and then I'm always a
little behind, and then I sound awkward.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
We don't sound right when we say the things that
the kids are saying.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, right now, I'm feeling too old to tolerate holding
my pee because I have got to go to the bathroom.
But I'll I'll get through it. I'll hold it and
then probably have to run.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Are you gonna be okay? I think of it to
be okay, But I'm getting too old for it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And people know what I'm talking about is women especially
we have to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I feel like I probably need to work on that
because I will go from nine to three o'clock and
not use the restroom. Yeah, I don't know how you
do that. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And then waiting in line, I feel like if I
have to stand for long periods of time, it's very difficult.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean, I have to do it, but it's.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Like, gosh, I'm getting a little too old for this,
Like should I just come back later?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Like you wouldn't stand in line? Well, I guess you
have to do it anymore. Remember you used to have
to go to the grocery store to get tickets to
a concert, like ticket Master was at Kroger. Yeah. I
don't know if people have to stand in line anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You have just like wait in a queue on the
internet forever, right, and then your computer crashes.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah? Yeah, So like in the grocery store, if the
lines are really long, do you go home? No? No,
but I think about it.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a long time,
and I don't want to stand here, and I guess
I'll try to do self check out.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
If you went to the Taylor Swift concert, would you
stand in line to buy merch? Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Luckily, Stashira got a Taylor Swift merch shirt when she
went to Taylor Swift because I didn't go, and I
love the shirt so much.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
It's so cute, so I wear it. But you didn't
have to stand I didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Have to stand in line for it, but I probably
would because some of the stuff was cute. At the
George Strait concert, I stood in line for merch and
I got this denim jacket that has a George Straight
patch on the back. So I mean, I guess I'll
do that if I'm at a concert and having fun.
I guess if I'm distracted by the fun, I can't
feel the pain. But look at my toes right now,
Look at my toes. See these band aids on both
(23:51):
my pinky toes. Yeah, it's because I wore heels for
two days in a row, and these heels are actually comfortable.
But I was doing some walking, and honestly, I think
that's why I might need to see my chiropractor too,
is because of the heels. Like there's these tender spots
on my back and then my toes. Like what, I'm
getting too old to tolerate cute heels.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I've never been able to tolerate cute heels, so you ever, Yeah,
I don't wear, ever wear. I wear heels to like
a wedding or an event, but I also have to
wear like the chunky heels because I'm not trying to
roll my ankle. I guess because I've never been in
a situation where I've had to wear heels a lot
for something I've never really I feel like I have
(24:31):
never learned how to walk in the high heels except
for comfy shoes.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Well, for your wedding, you're gonna wear heels at the wedding,
but then you're changing into Nike Air Force ones.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Oh yeah, because I need to feel free and I
need to be able to dance and move. And I
hate being uncomfortable. I don't like being uncomfortable in what
I'm wearing. I don't like being uncomfortable in the way
like my hair is done if it's too tight. So
my wedding, I said everything about this, and he said,
I need to feel comfortable so I have the most fun.
It's good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
My dress is very flowy, so as a bridesmaid, I
can put on sneakers after the wedding too.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, and maybe there might be a pair. Oh is
that why you asked us our shoe size. I don't know.
Maybe there might be something for you to feel comfortable to.
I think I just figured it out. Oh.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I pulled up this whole thing about phrases that are
actually mom shaming. Do you want to hear some of
the other ones? Okay, oh you do. Oh, we don't
allow that in our house. Whatever it is like you
do x.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Oh, we don't. We don't allow that.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Oh well, oh, that's never been an issue for us,
probably because we.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Did this from the beginning. Oh, like ways or just
people are like, oh, I just want them up. Well,
have you tried blank?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It works wonders for us, which I mean if you
are a mom, I kind of do want to hear
that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well, we decided that when we became parents we would
never and there's a lot I decided when I came
a parent that I thought it was never going to do,
and trust me, it all fell through the that went
to the wayside.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That was when I was living in La La Lands.
I feel like a lot of those comments are accidentally
unkind Oh, when I'm mom, I definitely won't do that.
But to each their own, Oh, how would you respond
if somebody said that to you? If somebody was like, oh,
we don't allow that in our home.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Honestly, I would respond internally with myself. I would start
to question myself and like, I don't think I would
stand up for myself in a way. Now that I'm
maybe more aware of it, I would think, oh, well,
I'm glad that works for you. Maybe that would be
my response, But I think my gut reaction would be
internal and I would start judging myself and be like,
(26:39):
you know what, maybe they're right.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
What am I doing wrong? Or maybe I should do that?
I wonder if you could take a little of Keanu
Reeves inspiration.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh I could just look at them and say, okay,
oh yeah, and I bet you.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Believe one plus one plus five. I think you should
try that. That's your homework. Yep, Hey have fun? Bye?
All right? Kat? Where can people find you? On Instagram
at Kat dot defauda and at You Need Therapy Podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Which make sure y'all check out her episodes. On Mondays
there's full episodes that are interviews or longer form topics,
and then on Wednesday she does her bonus episode it's
called couch Talks, or she does.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
A Q and A.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
And if you've got a question for her and you
want it answered, because she is an amazing therapist, you
can email.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Her Katherine at Therapy podcast dot com.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
And you can email me four Things with Amy Brown
at gmail dot com to send us questions for the
fifth thing or anything else you want to share about
the podcast, your life or what you have going on,
or if you want to shame us or judge us
in anyway, or tell us all that you know and
why you're better and you're doing everything right or if
there's any good movies we need to watch.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That I will accept the others I don't know that
I want.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, I'm at Radio Amy on Instagram. And I'll see
Thursday for four things and then Kat and I'll be
back together next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Whoop ye bye,
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