The Third Narrative

The Third Narrative

The Third Narrative, exploring life beyond black and white thinking. Join Noa in intimate conversations with guests whose lives embrace complexity and openness with courage and love, offering fresh perspectives on today’s most divided topics and the space that exists in-between and beyond.

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March 19, 2026 74 mins
What happens when coming out doesn’t destroy faith, but saves it? In this deeply honest conversation, Sara reflects on growing up in a fundamentalist Christian world, wrestling with theology, queerness, marriage, motherhood, and mental health, and slowly finding a God who felt less like judgment and more like home. This is a powerful episode about spiritual survival, self-trust, and building spaces where young people can belo...
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Another deep dive with Loui Haj, exploring why true partnership means shared power (not “coexistence”), and why even well-intentioned allies need to learn listening without guiding—offering. Thought-provoking parallels for Aotearoa about true partnership, who gets to set the terms, and what it really costs to relinquish control of the national narrative.
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January 29, 2026 59 mins
Polyamory, Consensual non-monogamy, and other ways to do love. In this episode Tāmati shares with Noa his perspective of relationships and relating, commitment to others and Self, and what is a life-giving relationship.
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January 15, 2026 44 mins
Allan Heta-Cleaver is a Māori takatāpui healer, Koro, father, and partner. Drawing from lived experience across sex work, contemporary mirimiri, and body-based healing, Allan speaks to the body as a site of connection and relation, through memory, aroha, and transformation. In this conversation, he weaves sexuality and spirituality, Māori and Pākehā worlds, pain and pleasure, embodying a Third Narrative that refuses binaries and ce...
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