Say That With Love

Say That With Love

What does it take to build a world where Black children truly thrive? Hosted by Dr. Leah Austin, Say That With Love is a podcast from the National Black Child Development Institute (NBCDI) that explores the Eight Essential Outcomes for Black Child Development through the voices of those closest to the work: educators, parents, artists, healers, and community leaders building liberated futures for Black children and families. Rooted in Afrofuturism, early childhood development, and systems thinking, each episode weaves storytelling, expert insight, and community wisdom to ignite hope and drive action. From joyful learning to economic security, we're reimagining what's possible for our youngest generation. This is more than a podcast. It's a movement to nurture Black brilliance, protect Black joy, and center Black children in systems designed for them to flourish. Produced by Mike Brown in partnership with ABF Creative. Poetry performed by Ariana Santiago.

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January 19, 2026 61 mins
What if joy was the metric? What if data affirmed Black brilliance instead of policing it? In this powerful opening episode of Say That With Love, host Dr. Leah Austin sits down with Dr. Karsonya “Kaye” Wise Whitehead—award-winning scholar, storyteller, and “Black Mommy Activist”—to explore Afrofuturism as a visionary tool for systems change. Together, they unpack how memory, motherhood, and imagination shape the futures Black chi...
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