Say That With Love

Say That With Love

What does it take to build a world where Black children truly thrive? Hosted by Dr. Leah Austin, Say That With Love is a podcast from the National Black Child Development Institute (NBCDI) that explores the Eight Essential Outcomes for Black Child Development through the voices of those closest to the work: educators, parents, artists, healers, and community leaders building liberated futures for Black children and families. Rooted in Afrofuturism, early childhood development, and systems thinking, each episode weaves storytelling, expert insight, and community wisdom to ignite hope and drive action. From joyful learning to economic security, we're reimagining what's possible for our youngest generation. This is more than a podcast. It's a movement to nurture Black brilliance, protect Black joy, and center Black children in systems designed for them to flourish. Produced by Mike Brown in partnership with ABF Creative. Poetry performed by Ariana Santiago.

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March 16, 2026 61 mins
In a world increasingly shaped by screens, algorithms, and AI, what does it mean for Black children to be safe, seen, and sovereign online? In this episode of Say That With Love, Dr. Leah Austin is joined by Criscillia Benford, to explore digital equity, online safety, and the role technology plays in shaping Black childhood. From leading Project 10Million to decades of educational leadership, Dr. King brings powerful insight into...
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What does it mean for Black children to enjoy meals with vegetables in a world shaped by food insecurity and food apartheid? In this episode of Say That With Love, Dr. Leah Austin is joined by Parker Gilkesson Davis, Senior Policy Analyst at the Center for Law and Social Policy, writer, and mother, for a conversation on food justice, nutrition, and child wellness. Together, they explore how policy, culture, and community intersect...
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What does it truly mean for a school to affirm who Black children are and expand who they can become? In this episode of Say That With Love, Dr. Leah Austin is joined by Dr. David Johns, Executive Director of the National Black Justice Collective and longtime education justice advocate, for a powerful conversation about affirming schools, identity, and imagination. Together, they explore how classrooms shape belonging, joy, and ...
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What does it really mean for a Black child to be born at a healthy weight? In this episode, Dr. Leah Austin is joined by doula and educator Leah Hairston to explore birth justice, Black maternal health, and the systems that shape the earliest moments of life. Together, they reimagine a world where Black babies are born into dignity, care, and love—and where Black mothers are heard, believed, and protected.
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What if joy was the metric? What if data affirmed Black brilliance instead of policing it? In this powerful opening episode of Say That With Love, host Dr. Leah Austin sits down with Dr. Karsonya “Kaye” Wise Whitehead—award-winning scholar, storyteller, and “Black Mommy Activist”—to explore Afrofuturism as a visionary tool for systems change. Together, they unpack how memory, motherhood, and imagination shape the futures Black chi...
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