Top of Their Game

Top of Their Game

The show where we delve into the minds of people making communications clearer, fairer, and just plain better.

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March 17, 2026 45 mins

Meet Jamila Savoy: an emerging leader in the world of plain language advocacy. 

As co-founder of Plain Language Matters, Jamila helps organizations communicate clearly; from simplifying complex policy to shaping public health messages and coaching teams to write with confidence and purpose. In this episode, she shares how her passion for plain language began, how she convinced the Victorian Government to invest in clarity, and the k...

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Meet Laureate Professor Peter Doherty: Nobel Prize winner, scientific heavyweight, and master communicator. 

From a discovery that transformed modern medicine to decades as a trusted public voice on pandemics, climate change, and science itself, Peter shares what it takes to communicate complex ideas with clarity, credibility, and impact. A big-brain conversation with one of the world’s best. 


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February 3, 2026 41 mins

Meet Dr Annetta Cheek: a true trailblazer of the plain language movement. 

After 25 years as a federal employee, Annetta saw firsthand how badly government communication was failing the people it was meant to serve. From chairing PLAIN, the federal interagency plain language group, to serving as chief plain language expert on Vice President Al Gore’s National Partnership for Reinventing Government, she became one of the most influen...

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January 13, 2026 31 mins

Meet Prof Joe Kimble — a true legend of plain-language legal writing.

After 35 years teaching legal writing at Cooley Law School, helping draft the US Federal Rules of Evidence and Civil Procedure, and authoring three landmark books, Joe has spent a career proving that the law can be clear, human and accessible.

In our very first episode, Joe shares how he found plain language, the lessons he’s learned along the way, and why clarity ...

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