The Salt & Light Podcast

The Salt & Light Podcast

The Salt & Light podcast offers inspiring and insightful conversations with Fourth Church community partners in Chicagoland and beyond. We talk with leaders who are salt and light in public life by making positive contributions to our city, country, and global community. We explore what inspires and challenges them, as well as what they are learning as we partner together for the common good.

Episodes

March 19, 2026 42 mins

Pastor Joe talks with Derek Brown, Coach and Founder of Boxing Out Negativity, a youth development and sports organization on Chicago’s West Side.

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Pastor Joe talks with Katherine Wilson, CEO of Deborah’s Place a provider of housing for women who have experienced homelessness.

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March 5, 2026 44 mins

Pastor Joe talks with Camesha Jones, Founder and Executive Director of the mental health organization Sista Afya serving Chicago’s Southside.

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February 26, 2026 47 mins

Pastor Joe talks with Carol Sharp, President and CEO of The Night Ministry, providing support and human connection to Chicagoans experiencing homelessness.

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February 25, 2026 39 mins

Pastor Joe talks with Christa Hamilton, President and CEO of UCAN, which leads transformational interventions so that families and communities can be safe and prosper.

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Pastor Joe talks with Ron Bottrell, a congregant who has spent 15 years deploying to disaster sites with Presbyterian Disaster Assistance.

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