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DID PAUL STEAL THE GOSPEL? 😱 | The Unholier Podcast

Is the Christianity you know based on Jesus... or a Roman cover-up?

This week on The Unholier Podcast, Jenny sits down with Paul from RealGoodNews.org for an explosive conversation that dismantles 2,000 years of church tradition. If you’ve ever felt like the "Red Letters" of Jesus don’t match the rest of the Bible, this episode is your wake-up call.

We’re diving deep into ...

Host Jenny Smith & Guest Host from Surviving-ISH Podcast David Keck introduce Kirsten, a psychic medium and healer who owns Revive Wellness Spa & Studio in Flushing, Michigan, and discuss her appearances on the Un-Holier podcast. Kirsten explains that everyone has intuition, how to distinguish gut guidance from ego-based fear, and how dreams can bring guidance, including premonitions, color vs black-and-white dreams, and th...

"He was sexually abusing me while casting demons out of me. That is a chapter in my book." 💔

In one of the most raw and courageous episodes of the Unholier Podcast, host Jenny sits down with Heather Ford, author of The Barbie Pink Wall that Kept My Secrets. Heather isn’t just a survivor; she is a witness to the dark side of "Deliverance" culture within evangelical cults.

Heather recounts the chilling moment she r...

Unfiltered Year in Review: Co-Host Drama, False Police Report & Why Unholier Kept Going (1-Year Anniversary)

Host Jenny Smith celebrates the one-year anniversary of the Unholier podcast with producer and friend David Keck, reflecting on the highs, lows, and lessons of the past 12 months. They discuss backlash to Jenny’s first episode about her IFB upbringing, arranged and abusive marriage, and speaking truth about her ...

In this episode of the Unholier Podcast, we sit down with Jordan, a survivor of the notorious Spring Creek Lodge Academy. From January 2007 to December 2008, Jordan lived behind magnet-locked doors, enduring a system of "intervention" (solitary confinement), fake schooling, and the constant threat of being shipped to Tranquility Bay in Jamaica.

Jordan pulls back the curtain on the Troubled Teen Industry (TTI), exposing the...

Jenny Smith hosts a lighthearted Un Holier Podcast episode with Brittany Racine from the Might Get Loud Podcast about “culty” social norms that aren’t technically cults. They joke about being pulled into the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City fandom and discuss cult-like dynamics in hustle culture and burnout, work-life balance guilt, survival-mode productivity, and diet/wellness trends like detoxes, fasting, and sourdough. They als...

Unholier Podcast: The Valentine’s Day Survival Guide – Love Languages & Better Dates!

Is Valentine’s Day a Hallmark holiday or a vital day for romance? In this special bonus episode of the Unholier Podcast, the host and her husband pull back the curtain on their own relationship to discuss all things love.

From debating the true significance of February 14th to a deep dive into the five love languages, this episode is packed with...

Welcome to the Un Holier Podcast, where we delve into the beliefs that shaped us and explore the spiritual gray areas we were taught to avoid. In today's episode, Kirsten, a psychic medium, joins us to discuss what happens when we die, how loved ones may still contact us, and what exists beyond the physical world. Discover the difference between psychics and mediums, learn about grounding, and hear fascinating insights about l...

In this gripping episode of the End Holier podcast, host Jenny Smith sits down with Jeremy Paskell, who shares his harrowing experience of growing up in a cult led by Ariel Ben Sherman during the 1980s and 1990s. From dealing with extreme control and fear to ultimately finding freedom, Jeremy's story is a testament to resilience. Now a mural artist and author, Jeremy discusses how he transformed his traumatic past into creativ...

In this eye-opening episode of the Un Holier Podcast, host Jenny Smith engages in a candid conversation with her best friend Chrissy about the often overlooked topic of gluttony within church culture. From the abundant potlucks in Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) churches to the broader implications of overconsumption in our daily lives, Jenny and Chrissy explore how gluttony extends beyond food to include material excess, soc...

In this episode of the Un Holier Podcast, host Jenny Smith sits down with Luke Roberts (known to many as LJR) for a raw and vulnerable conversation about the cost of losing your faith—and the beauty of finding yourself.

Luke spent years at the front of the sanctuary as a worship leader, but behind the scenes, the foundation of his evangelical upbringing was cracking. Today, he shares the intimate details of his deconstruction journe...

In this episode of the Un Holier Podcast, hosts Jenny Smith and Bible expert Justin dive deep into the complexities and controversies surrounding Bible translations, with a special focus on the King James Version (KJV). They explore the historical context, common translation errors, and hidden agendas in the creation of the KJV. Justin provides a comprehensive presentation on why newer translations might be more accurate, and they ...

Welcome to a very special episode of the Un Holier Podcast. To kick off 2026, I’m joined by my favorite guest—my husband! Together, we’re taking a trip down memory lane to revisit our most hilarious (and slightly embarrassing) New Year’s Eve moments.

But it’s not all just laughs. We’re getting real about our 2026 resolutions, from the bad habits we’re finally ditching to the realistic goals we’re actually hoping to keep this year. S...

Have you ever felt trapped by religion? In this raw and unfiltered interview, we sit down with JC Groves, a brave pastor who escaped the clutches of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement. From a life of strict religious indoctrination to a powerful spiritual awakening, JC’s story will challenge everything you think you know about faith.

We'll uncover the secrets of the IFB's legalistic practices, hear breathta...

In this episode, the host welcomes Jenny as she shares her harrowing journey growing up in the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) movement. Jenny's story details her family's deep roots in IFB, the strict and oppressive rules she faced, and the challenges of living under a legalistic and controlling environment. She recounts traumatic experiences, including a public shaming at youth camp, and a disastrous, abusive marr...

Did the Church RUIN Her Life?! 😱 Author Catherine Brusk Reveals the TRUTH About Growing Up Christian | Unholier Podcast

In this explosive episode, host Jenny Smith sits down with bestselling author Catherine Brusk to peel back the curtain on her tumultuous religious past. Catherine holds NOTHING BACK as she details the jarring whiplash of attending a strict Christian school while navigating a more "relaxed" non-denominati...

In this deeply personal and uncomfortable episode, hosts David and Jenny address a serious issue affecting the Troubled Teen Industry (TTI) community. They reveal that a former podcast guest has been embellishing their survival story to gain attention and scam community members, particularly vulnerable women, out of money. Despite the sensitive nature of the topic, David and Jenny provide insights and share their mission to bring a...

In this episode of the Un Holier Podcast, host Jenny Smith sits down with Tabitha, a survivor of the troubled teen industry who spent time at Tranquility Bay in Jamaica. Tabitha shares her journey of growth and resilience, discussing her mixed emotions about the recent hurricane that hit Jamaica and the lasting impact of her experiences. The episode highlights Tabitha's impressive efforts in creating a grassroots organization ...

In a special episode of the Un Holier Podcast, host Jenny Smith is joined by her husband, Ryan (aka Smitty), to discuss their vastly different upbringings. Jenny was raised in a religious environment while Ryan wasn't exposed to church at all. They share personal stories, delve into the challenges and growth in their marriage, and discuss their experiences with various church environments. The couple also touches on the impact...