Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Financial talk radio veteran, Don McDonald and former host of Serious Money on PBS, Tom Cock, join forces to talk about real money issues. In each episode, they solve real money problems, dole out real investing (not speculating) advice, and really explain the financial issues that effect all of us. Plus, it's actually fun! Talking Real Money is a podcast designed to provide the real help we all need to enjoy a really great future. Call in with your questions anytime at 855-935-TALK (8255).

Episodes

Questions Aplenty

April 3, 2026 • 25 mins

This Q&A episode tackles a mix of practical retirement and investing questions, starting with why spousal Social Security benefits rarely change the core advice to delay claiming. Don explains the limits of basic retirement calculators versus more robust planning tools, then reassures a late-starting saver that simple, low-cost investing (like target-date funds) often beats complexity. A listener’s story about $242 stock commis...

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Yield Trap

April 2, 2026 • 29 mins

This episode opens with a blistering takedown of sensationalized financial media, using a Kiplinger income piece as the latest example of how risky, high-fee junk bond products get dressed up as safe income solutions for yield-hungry investors. Don and Tom explain why bonds are supposed to provide stability, not speculative upside, and why chasing eye-popping payouts usually means swallowing hidden risk, ugly expenses, and stock-li...

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Final Broadcast - Two

April 1, 2026 • 40 mins

In the final hour of the radio show, Don and Tom blend nostalgia with a blunt reality check—highlighting the looming Social Security shortfall that could force 20–25% benefit cuts within a decade. They explore politically painful solutions (tax increases, benefit reductions, later retirement ages), while reinforcing their core investing philosophy: ignore fear-driven moves like chasing gold, stay diversified, and avoid market timin...

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Final Broadcast - One

March 31, 2026 • 39 mins

The final live radio episode of Talking Real Money blends nostalgia, listener appreciation, and core investing philosophy. Don and Tom reflect on nearly four decades of broadcasting while reinforcing their timeless message: consistent investing beats prediction. Using a simple S&P 500 example, they illustrate how discipline—not brilliance—builds wealth. They address current market declines with calm realism, urging listeners to...

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College Pays

March 30, 2026 • 29 mins

This episode mixes studio banter with a surprisingly substantive look at education and investing trade-offs. Don and Tom walk through data on the lowest-paying college majors, highlighting that many bachelor’s degrees—especially in education and the arts—start and stay low in income unless paired with advanced study. They push back on the idea that college isn’t worth it, citing Federal Reserve data showing higher lifetime earnings...

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Asking Away

March 27, 2026 • 22 mins

A lively Friday Q&A kicks off with some unintended voice effects courtesy of Don’s grandkids before diving into listener questions on money market funds versus high-yield savings accounts, Roth vs. traditional 401(k) decisions in high tax brackets, expense ratios in fund-of-funds like Avantis ETFs, the limited value of international bonds, the reality behind indexed annuity caps, and whether investors should ever move beyond si...

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Your Retirement Number

March 26, 2026 • 27 mins

The idea of a universal “retirement number” gets dismantled as misleading and overly simplistic, with Don and Tom arguing that retirement planning is deeply personal and depends on spending, income sources, and lifestyle. They walk through a practical way to calculate your own number—starting with real spending, subtracting Social Security and any pension, and determining what your portfolio must generate—while warning against blin...

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Retirement Myths

March 25, 2026 • 41 mins

As Talking Real Money moves into its final week on terrestrial radio, Don and Tom mix transition talk with a practical rundown of common retirement myths. They push back on the idea that expenses automatically fall in retirement, warn that Social Security was never meant to cover everything, and explain why relying on the market alone can be dangerous when withdrawals begin. Callers bring in questions about the sketchy-sounding Qua...

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You Can't Know

March 24, 2026 • 39 mins

With geopolitical tension rattling markets and investors stampeding into cash, gold, and energy, Don and Tom step back to deliver a familiar message: nobody knows what’s next—and anyone claiming otherwise is selling something. They walk through the behavioral traps of market timing, explain why diversification (especially beyond U.S. large caps) is quietly doing its job, and highlight the role of small cap and micro-cap stocks as p...

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Icy Market

March 23, 2026 • 29 mins

The housing market is stuck in an unusual freeze, driven by the lingering effects of ultra-low COVID-era mortgage rates, reduced housing inventory, and sharply higher income requirements for buyers. With fewer people moving, less new construction, and more all-cash purchases, affordability has deteriorated and first-time buyers are older than ever. Don and Tom argue that homeownership is often overrated as an investment and suggest...

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Fewer Q Friday

March 20, 2026 • 20 mins

Don fields listener questions on asset allocation, advisor timing, and investing complexity with his usual bias toward simplicity and self-awareness. He emphasizes that the decision to add bonds isn’t about age but about emotional tolerance for loss, shares his own shift to a more conservative 55/45 portfolio, dismisses futures markets as largely speculative noise for most investors, and advises a listener nearing retirement that w...

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Optimal Income?

March 19, 2026 • 27 mins

Morningstar’s latest research nudges the “safe” withdrawal rate down to 3.9%, but Don and Tom make it clear there’s no magic number—just tradeoffs. They walk through fixed vs. flexible withdrawal strategies, why spending adaptability matters more than rules of thumb, and how your goals (spend vs. leave money behind) shape everything. Listener questions tackle bond fund choices (yield vs. stability), portfolio allocation math, and w...

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Everything Ends

March 18, 2026 • 39 mins

The show opens with a major announcement: Talking Real Money is leaving terrestrial radio and going fully podcast-only, marking the end of a 16-year Saturday run. A heartfelt surprise call from Don’s wife Debbie reflects on decades of friendship, trust, and listener connection before the tone pivots back to business. The main topic takes aim at perpetual crash predictors like Robert Kiyosaki, dismantling their track records with ha...

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Retired Broke

March 17, 2026 • 39 mins

As Talking Real Money prepares to leave terrestrial radio and become a podcast-only show, Tom and Don pivot from logistics to a deeper issue: the growing financial fragility of retirees. With fewer than 3% of Americans over 65 holding $1M in retirement savings and bankruptcy rates rising among seniors, they explore whether the shift from pensions to 401(k)s helped or hurt. While critics call 401(k)s a failed experiment, the hosts a...

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Exchange Traded Gambling

March 16, 2026 • 30 mins

Exchange-traded funds began as simple, low-cost index vehicles, but their popularity has sparked a flood of increasingly speculative products. Don and Tom explain how more than 1,000 new ETFs launched in the past year—many involving leverage, crypto exposure, or even single-stock bets—turning what was once a sensible investment wrapper into a playground for risky financial engineering. They discuss why firms are rushing into ETFs t...

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Questions Four

March 13, 2026 • 16 mins

In this Friday Q&A episode, Don answers four listener questions covering fund recommendations, special-needs financial planning, retirement withdrawal strategy, and tax-efficient health savings. First, he addresses whether Talking Real Money receives commissions for mentioning Avantis and Dimensional funds (they do not) and explains why those firms’ evidence-based strategies stand out. A second caller asks about planning for a ...

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Don't Invest?

March 12, 2026 • 35 mins

A debate over jelly bean flavors quickly pivots into a takedown of a flashy Inc. Magazine article claiming people shouldn’t save for retirement. Don and Tom dissect the “cash-flow over investing” pitch from entrepreneur Joseph Drups, exposing the realities of running small businesses, the risks behind claims of passive income, and the likelihood that the real money comes from selling the system rather than executing it. The convers...

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Retiremeet 2026 Part Two

March 11, 2026 • 37 mins

Broadcast from RetireMeet 2026 in Bellevue, Don and Tom reflect on the evolution of retirement planning—from a narrow focus on investments to a broader conversation about purpose, relationships, and life after work. They interview Paul Merriman, who discusses portfolio construction, the role of small-cap value stocks, risk tolerance, and long-term investing discipline. The conversation also explores withdrawal strategies, market hi...

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Retiremeet 2026 Part One

March 10, 2026 • 37 mins

Broadcast live from RetireMeet in Bellevue, Don announces that after nearly four decades of Saturday radio shows, Talking Real Money will end its live radio run on March 28 and continue exclusively as a podcast. The episode features conversations with Joe Saul-Sehy of Stacking Benjamins and Morningstar’s Christine Benz about how people should approach retirement. The central theme is flipping the traditional process: design the lif...

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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Episodes

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Final Broadcast - Two

Final Broadcast - One

College Pays

Asking Away

Your Retirement Number

Retirement Myths

You Can't Know

Icy Market

Fewer Q Friday

Optimal Income?

Everything Ends

Retired Broke

More Questions!

Exchange Traded Gambling

Questions Four

Don't Invest?

Retiremeet 2026 Part Two

Retiremeet 2026 Part One

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Questions Aplenty

Yield Trap