The Conviction Exchange
Conviction. Not everybody has one. But everybody does have an opinion — so let’s talk about them. Let’s talk about real world problems, real life scenarios and hear real stories about how a conviction for Jesus can make a lot of the things we walk through a little easier to deal with. The goal for the Conviction exchange podcast is to laugh together, challenge each other, grow together…but mostly laugh together. We’re funny — at least we think we are. Our conviction is this: Jesus is the answer, — and we just want to talk about it with people.
Episodes
Does church structure really matter? And who holds church leadership accountable?
In Episode 18, Part 1 of The Conviction Exchange, Chandler Guion and Shawn Blades welcome special guest Pastor Dan Cole, who brings nearly five decades of ministry experience to a candid conversation about denominations, church leadership, and spiritual authority.
Drawing from his years as a pastor and district superintendent, Pastor Dan...
Episode 17 - What if Noah’s Ark isn’t just a story about something that happened thousands of years ago—but a picture of how we’re supposed to live today?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we go deep on Noah, obedience, the possibility of physical evidence for the Ark, and what it means when the world seems to be drowning in pride, confusion, sin, and self-interest.
But the conversati...
Episode 16 - AI is changing the way we work, communicate, learn—and even how we deal with our mental health. But what happens when we start turning to AI for things that require wisdom, discernment, accountability, and genuine relationship?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we dive into the growing world of AI therapy and ask some uncomfortable questions. Can a chatbot really understand what we're goi...
Episode 15 - How much of our lives are being controlled by the glowing rectangle in our hands?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we dive into the growing battle for our attention—from screen time and social media to parenting, relationships, mental toughness, and our ability to simply be still. We talk about how our phones can shape the way we listen, how we love, how we parent, and even how we see ou...
Episode 14 - What happens when our desire to protect our kids actually keeps them from becoming resilient?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we dive into the reality of raising kids in a culture where discomfort is often avoided, failure is softened, and parents can feel pressured to protect their children from every possible struggle. We talk about mental toughness, perseverance, parenting, sports, coachin...
Episode 13 - What happens when empathy goes too far—and accountability disappears?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we dive into the difficult conversation surrounding the Clancy trial, mental health, postpartum depression, psychiatric care, justice, and the growing confusion over truth and responsibility.
But this conversation goes much deeper than one trial.
We talk about the danger of “toxic e...
Episode 12 - What happens when we admire someone so much that we begin to give them a place in our lives that belongs to God alone?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we talk about the recent passing of Dolly Parton and the incredible influence she had across generations. But the conversation quickly goes much deeper: Why are we so drawn to celebrities, influencers, pastors, athletes, and people of power? An...
Episode 11 — What happens when we become so comfortable with “common ground” that we lose sight of what we actually believe?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, Chandler, Shawn, and Phyllis dive into a challenging conversation about spiritual discernment, worship, and the danger of becoming spiritually “neutral.” From a controversial song being labeled as Christian worship to the...
Episode 10 - Are We Treating the Problem—or Just the Symptoms?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we dive into an honest conversation about depression, anxiety, trauma, medication, therapy, and faith.
Are we addressing the root of the problem—or simply treating the symptoms? And what happens when we become so convinced of our own perspective that we stop listening?
We talk about wisdom, humility, t...
Episode 9 - What Is the Church? What if we’ve gotten church wrong?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we wrestle with a question that sounds simple but carries some serious weight: What is the church actually supposed to be?
We talk about the difference between building a church and building a brand, the dangers of influence and platform culture, and what happens when we begin valuing people for th...
Episode 8 - Is your health routine glorifying God, or are you just trying to outrun aging? In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, Phyllis, Chandler, and Shawn get real about what it actually means to "protect the temple."
From Kenny Loggins concerts and St. Louis trips to ADHD superpowers, diet trends, and TRT—we’re diving deep into the balance between taking care of our physical bodies and keeping o...
Episode 7 - Is tithing a biblical command, an act of worship, or something that has become misunderstood in today’s church? In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we have an honest and thought-provoking conversation about tithing, generosity, and the heart behind giving. We explore the difference between giving out of genuine conviction and giving because of pressure, obligation, or religious expectations...
Episode 6 - The greatest battle you'll ever fight may not be happening around you—it may be happening inside your mind. In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, Chandler, Shawn, and Phyllis take a deep dive into the real battleground of life: the thought patterns inside our own heads.
Phyllis (our resident therapist) breaks down the powerful psychological and spiritual distinction between fearand anxie...
Episode 5 - Everyone has an opinion about what's wrong with the world, but what if we're trying to solve the wrong problem? In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we dive into why Jesus pointed to the human heart—not politics, culture, technology, or the economy—as the root of the world's greatest crisis. Together, we explore how our hearts, minds, and identities are shaped, the dangers of chasing i...
Ep. 4: The Unforgiveness Epidemic
Everyone wants justice. Few people want forgiveness. What if that's why we're not healing?
Wars continue, political divisions widen, and social media actively rewards our outrage. We’ve become experts at demanding accountability, but totally helpless when it comes to extending restoration. In this episode, we unpack why unforgiveness is the ultimate prison—one we build for...
In Part 2 of our powerful conversation with Phyllis Robertson Thomas, we dive deep into the beautiful, messy intersection of hard truths, redemption, and biblical grace. Sharing highly sensitive stories requires spiritual discernment, and Phyllis shares how she practically balances the call to walk in the light (1 John 1:7) while fiercely protecting and respecting those who are still struggling.
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What happens when God reveals a chapter of your story you never saw coming?
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we sit down with Phyllis Robertson Thomas, author of I Never Knew, for a conversation about identity, faith, grace, and God's providence.
Phyllis shares her journey of discovering a deeper part of her story, what it was like to navigate that experience through faith, and how God's hand remained evide...
In this episode of The Conviction Exchange, we dive into the connection between faith and obedience. Why is doing the right thing often so difficult? Is obedience just about following rules, or is it actually an expression of trust in God? Through honest conversation, real-life examples, and practical questions, we explore how obedience often comes before understanding—and how faith, peace, and spiritual growt...
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