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May 2, 2023 44 mins
The deaths of Arnold Archambeau and Ruby Bruguier are a tragic and controversial mystery that occurred in South Dakota in 1992. The couple were driving early one morning when they hit black ice and their car flipped. Both left the wreck, with Bruguier's cousin still inside the vehicle, and then disappeared. Months later their bodies were found near the sight of the crash, but some strange evidence points to them having died somewhere else entirely.    With special guest Brooke Seguin! https://www.instagram.com/30minutemusicals/   Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/astudyofstrange Theme Music by Matt Glass https://www.glassbrain.com/ Instagram: @astudyofstrange Website: www.astudyofstrange.com Hosted by Michael May Email stories, comments, or ideas to astudyofstrange@gmail.com ©2022 Convergent Content, LLC

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Warning.
This episode contains detailsthat some listeners
may find disturbing.
1992 Arnold Archambaultand Ruby Bruyere were a young couple
and members of the YanktonSioux Reservation in South Dakota.
One particular December morning,they had been out all night
and they were driving homewhen they had a patch of black ice

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and ended up flipping the car.
Bruyere and Archambault left the wreckage,leaving behind Bruyere 17 year
old cousin Tracy Deon still inside the car
and the couple simply vanished.
Their whereabouts remained unknownuntil March of the following year,
and that is when their decomposing bodieswere found

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right near where the crash happened.
Their deaths were ruled
as accidental due to hypothermia,but their families and many others,
including some of the investigators,believe that foul play
may have been involved because there are
many bizarre questions to this case.

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This is a study of
strange.

(01:26):
Welcome to the show.
I'm Michael Mae.
And I'm joined by Brett Sagan.
What I. Yes, Sagan.
Let's say it again.
Brooke is an actor, a performer,a director, a writer.
You work in casting, too.
I believe you're one of those minimulti-hyphenate, aren't you?

(01:46):
Yeah. Yes.
I'm a creature of necessity.
Got to make it all. Work as we all.
As we all are.
Know, you're. I'm a big fan of your work.
You and I have not really spokenthat much together,
but we have worked togetheron a couple of things. Mm hmm.
And you are not a big fan of yours.
Yeah. Thanks.
I can't miss my mullet.

(02:07):
Yeah,And the are the mullets and 12 hour shift.
Everybody check that out.Give that a plug.
Directed and written by Brett Grant.
Now, that was so much fun.
I was so happy I got to be on camera and.
And rock a mullet.
Now I'm a big fan of yours.
This is a nice excuse just to, like,talk to you a little bit.
Yeah. Thank you so much for being here.
Yeah, of. Course.

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So let me ask you a question,because I did kind of throw you into this.
Are you at all a fan or interested
or get intrigued by things like True crimeor mysteries or anything like that?
I love it. I absolutely love it.
I probably have watched too much,you know,
like when I do love theDateline, I do love Dateline.

(02:51):
I used to
love watching Forensic Fileslike Murder is fantastic.
You know, you end up watching those like
and you know, you've seen it before,but you can't remember exactly.
We know who did it. Yeah.
And then you have to watch them all over,So. You got to sit through it again.
Yeah, exactly.
No, I'm. I'm.
I'm so glad because I was like, Man,I hope she likes this kind of topic.

(03:14):
I do. I love the mysteries, too.
But sometimes with, like,the unsolved mysteries
and stuff your brainbefore you go into it, it's like that show
Fatal Attraction where you know someone'sgoing to get killed by a pet.
You know, know what do you like?
It's in the title.I know what's going to happen.
It's the same thingwith Unser solved mysteries like I it's

(03:37):
I know it's going to happen.It's not going to get solved.
So maybe I don't want to get investedbecause it's not solved.
Yeah. Yeah, it's.
That's a good point.
See, I like the unsolved things.
I tend to gravitate towardsthe stories that are unsolved just because
there's that intriguing ness to it.
Yeah,that makes me sound super intelligent.
Do you feel like you.
You're going to be the personwho, like, Wait, I got it.

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Call somebody. No.
Not real.
To be very honest. No, I'm not.
I tend to just be like,I just want to think about this
a lot and see if I can get somewhereno one else has gone.
But I never just assume I'mgoing to be able to solve something.
Call the police. Yeah, got it.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
There's too many of those people in theworld, especially online and forums.

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Everybody.
Yeah, exactly. Everything.
And it's like, you know.
It's hard not to it.
It is, it is hard not to.
So this one, this cold case and listeners,
people that actually follow
my show closely will probably startto realize that I go through phases
because I went throughlike a lot of serial killers in the 18.
90, my murder.

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So I'm on a couple of,you know, my murder phase,
and now I'm in my, like, strange cold
case from the 20th century phase.
And this one, this one has been around.
People do know this case.
It's been on Unsolved Mysteriestwice back in the nineties.
And like when when what's his name?
Mustache Guy hosted thousandsthey revisited the case

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and so it's been aroundthere's been some articles and stuff but
it is quite a doozyand there's elements of this
that are just so mysteriousthat it has always grabbed my attention.
Yeah, and it's very interesting.
So this is the story of Ruby Bruyereand Arnold Archambault.
They were 18 and 19oh no, sorry, 18 and 20 respectively.

(05:29):
So they're young. Young cops, tough age.
And they had been sweethearts, tough age,
and they had been sweetheartssince high school, I believe.
And they even had a young daughter,Erica marie, together, who was about
I think she was 18 or 19 monthswhen this happened.
They were members of the YanktonSioux tribe and lived on the reservation,
which is in CharlesMix County, South Dakota.

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And Archambault worked at the FortRandall Casino, which is near
the town of Lake Andes,which is on Lake Andes.
Funny enough, that Lake Andeswould be on lake surprising and
surprising.
Have you ever been to South Dakota?
Honestly, no, I have not.
I mean, I know whereabouts it is.

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It's below North Dakota.
That's right.
That's right. That I'm aware of.
Yeah. Yeah.I would like to have it done it.
Yeah. Yeah, me too.
And one of the mistakes of this storyis this
is this mystery begins on December11th, in 1992.
And you think South Dakota,you think snowy tundra, or you might think

(06:36):
that like someone from myself,I'm from Florida and live in L.A..
I know you're from Louisiana.
Uh huh.
So I think South Dakota in December,I think massive snow everywhere.
Yeah. I would think.
However, the night that this happens,it is cold.
Like I think the lake is frozenand stuff like that,
but there's not a massive amountof snow on the ground.
So just keep

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keep that in the back of your headbecause that does relate to some theories
about this. Yeah.
So the story goes thaton the night of December 11th,
like I said, 1992, Rudyand Arnold went out first for some fun.
You know, they're young, their parents.
They probably want to get outand have some fun with friends.
I probably haven't been able to do thata lot since having a baby.
I relate to that. I understand. And

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and their
young daughter stayedin the care of Ruby's uncle,
and the couple took the uncle's daughter,Tracy Dionne, with them as they went out.
And Tracy was not a kid.
It's not like they were babysitting heras they went out to have fun.
She was 17.
So all of them are around the same age.
They're all friends.
The story goes that they went and visiteda variety of places that night.

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They saw a bunch of friends.
They went went around town, I thinkwhen Unsolved Mysteries covered it.
I think that was the thingI watched that that says it this way.
But they were like they went bar hopping.
I don't know if they necessarily wentbar hopping.
I think they just went to likethey did go to some multiple places.
But it may not have been just quoteunquote bars.
Right.
However,they didn't come home until 6 a.m.

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So theythey went out for the whole night. Yes.
It was a full evening.Full evening of fun.
And their uncle noticed thatthey had been drinking when they returned.
And he wisely suggested, hey,you guys need a sober up before
you can take your daughter anywhere.
So go home, sleep sober up,come back later.
And they agreed.

(08:24):
Luckily, they agreed and they left.
So the uncle said, get back in the car,drunk people and go.
So that's the one part that I don't like.Yeah.
The wise thing is he said,Don't do this with your little daughter.
But however,he should have just been like,
Hey, crash on the couch or somethinguntil you're sober.
That's what I would have thought.But yeah.
Wait, because they still had his daughter,is that correct?

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Yes. Yes, they did. Yes. Tracy.
Tracy is. They're his daughter.
So like,
you can't take your daughter becauseyou're drunk, but please take my daughter.
This is. I guess so. This is wild.
South Dakota, man.
South Dakota man, I guess. I don't. Know.
He Southerners.
We knew you do some weird stuff.
You know, when you're out in the country,you got a truck,

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you know, you put some kidsin the back of a pickup truck.
Listen, I'm not judging anyone's choices.
No, no, not at all. Me.
Me neither.
Around 7 a.m., they were.
They were driving home
and they were turning from asort of a small a small side street.
They were going to turn left on U.S.
Route 281, which at the time was Route 18.

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Today it's 281.
So that's Lane.I'm just going to refer to it.
And this small intersecting streetthat they were
on, they stopped at a stop sign sign.
Arnold was drivingand he turns left on to Route 281.
And as soon as he did,apparently he hit black ice and spun out,
flipped in the car, kind of stops upside
down in a ditch next to the road.

(09:54):
And this, depending on
what kind of article or sourceyou read or interview, you you listen to
this ditch issometimes called a depression.
Some people think it's like a run off.
You know how next to highwaysthey like dig
it out, dig a ditchso that water can run off.
Apparently, this is it's like that.
However, from what I've read, it'sactually more of a natural farming

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depression in the ground. Okay.
And next to that, on the other sideof of the ditch
from the roadis where old train tracks used to be.
So that's naturallykind of built up a little higher, too.
So this ditch gets filled with water,
both from precipitationand also from the fact
that Lake Andes is like righton the other side of those train tracks.

(10:38):
Okay, So I think it's water from a lake,it's water from precipitation.
And the water in this this ditch,this depression was frozen.
So their car is on top of this,like frozen water.
Obviously, it's cold, it's dark.
They're slightly drunk.
They've just been in a major accident.
And this is where thingsstart to get a little confusing.

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So Tracy Deon, the cousin,she recalls that
after the crash,she didn't see Arnold in the car.
So we don't know if he was ejectedwhile the car flipped and spun
or if maybe she got knocked outand she isn't aware of it.
Like maybe she was outfor a little bit of time
and when she came to Arnold had crawledout of the car, she was saying that

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Ruby was in the front saying, Oh my God,oh my God, and kind of banging on things.
And eventually Ruby got her door opened,crawled out, and then the door
shut behind her.
So Tracy was left in the car.
Her cousin got out of the carand left her in there.
And that's one of the really weirdaspects of this case, is
that Tracy's left in the carand she's probably calling for help.

(11:48):
I think she even triedto get a door open herself
and she couldn't get anything open,so she just left alone
and she doesn't know where Rubyor Arnold went.
And yes, so the first thought I have is
why didn't Ruby stay to help Tracy,but also.
Right. Like Ruby is intoxicated.
Yeah, she may have had an head injury,so you're not thinking straight, right?

(12:12):
You're just. You're so it doesn't.
I don't know.
I guess I'm not too shockedby the behavior, if that makes sense.
Yeah, Same for Tracy, too, right?Like what?
She's probably,you know, they're all drunk, and I
would imagine, like, spinning,getting in a crash.
You're very disorientated. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

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However, it is weird and bizarre
to think that you're just left in the carafter an accident,
and two people that are family and friendsjust kind of leave you there.
So Arnold and Rubynever returned to the car.
And luckily, this is a highway, we think.
And when I say we, I mean some idiotlike myself thinks that it's South Dakota.

(12:52):
There's not a lot of people.Things are very spread out.
Desolate. Exactly.
But it is a main thoroughfarewhere people are going into the town
or away from the town of Lake Andes.
So a passing car comes by pretty quickly,I think, and sees the accident.
Authorities are notified.
People come, they save Tracy.
They were able to get her out of the crash

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and immediatelypeople start searching for Ruby and.
Right. And this is talk.
We're like this like 7 a.m., right?
Or 8 a.m. like.
Dale Yeah. So it's like daylight.
Yes. Yes.
Especiallyby the time like the search and rescue
people show up like it is daylight.
And so they're searching in the day.

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And the first thought is, okay, there'sice around, there's ice in the ditch.
There's also ice in the lake.
So if they were wandering around,they could have stepped in the lake
and breakthrough ice and fall on the lake.
So they're searching all over these placesand there's no evidence of anybody
falling through ice.
There's no people buried under,you know, big
sayings of snowor whatever you would call.

(13:54):
Right.
And yeah, they they searched everywhere.
And one of the thoughts from a deputy BillYoung strum, since
he assumed since the driver was drinkingand a lot of cases
where there's an accident
after a driver has been drinking,the the driver will leave the scene.
Yeah. They walk out ofthey're in trouble. Mm hmm.
Yeah.
So they leave.
And so he's like, All right,they'll come back like it's Arnold.

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It's a small town. He'sgoing to go somewhere.
We're going to hear from himin, like, a day.
That's just what happens.
However, Arnold never came back.
Ruby never came back.
Family never heard from them.
They were not found.
And as time goeson, everybody is devastated.
They obviously they had a baby daughter.
They had family, friends.

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Apparently, both of them werewere very well-liked in the community.
Arnold had been prom kingjust a year or two earlier.
And according to Unsolved Mysteriesand a few articles I've read,
DeputyYoung Strom continued to search the area
almost every daylike he took it upon himself
to really put in the workto try to figure out what happened.

(14:58):
Because this is so bizarre.
And then March of 1993 comes.
So it's what, three months?
December, January? Yeah,yeah, March. There we go.
I can do math. That's how it happens.
That's how you do it.
And people start, as we do as humans.
People start suspecting and theorizingall sorts of different things.

(15:19):
Some people assumedthe couple did this on purpose
and they left town to start new lives.
Other people thought that, you know,some killer came by
and snatched them upand took them somewhere. And.
Yeah,and none of that really makes sense to me.
The family doesn'tbelieve something like them leaving
is a possibilitybecause they didn't love their daughter.

(15:41):
Ruby was still breastfeeding.It's like you don't.
And also, this is a lot of workto go through just to leave town.
Like there's other ways to do this.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And then on March 10th, someone,
a passing driver saw a body floatingin the meltwater in that depression
off Route 281, about 75 feet away

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from where the initial crash was.
Authorities came outand the body was too far
decomposedto really figure out who it was.
Immediately, however, they were ableto find a tattoo on an ankle
and a matched a tattoo that Ruby had.
So they were able to identifyRuby through this tattoo.
And then they were like, Well, wait,what if Arnold's out here, too?

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And this ditch is like 3 to 4 feetdeep of water.
So they they drained it.
They pump the water out,and the next day they find
Arnold's body just 15 feet away.
So both of them were right therenear the crash.
So you might think so.
Yeah. So case closed. They got out.They felt the rice.

(16:45):
It was just really hard to see.
But a big but a boom. There we go.
It's really sad. It's really terrible.
Yeah. However,
there are
some, again, just bizarre,strange things that come up.
We have questions.
I want to hear some of these crazytheories. We're going to get to those.
Well, first, here are some factsthat are strange and bizarre.

(17:07):
Yeah, the bodies, Arnold and Ruby,they had different
levels of decomposition,which doesn't make sense
if they died at the same time, at the sametime. Yes.
Now, some people have looked into like,hey, Arnold's
bigger than Ruby,so maybe his body decomposes differently.

(17:27):
Well, it turns out no, it doesn'treally matter what size you are.
It just looks like they were killedor died at two different times.
Yeah, they found.
They found what is commonly calleda tuft of hair that belonged to Ruby.
And the hairwas in better condition than her body.
I don't know how you can deduce thatwith hair,

(17:50):
but that is what you read and what iscommonly talked about in this case.
Also,Ruby did not have her shoes or glasses.
Okay. That doesn't
that doesn't shock me too much
because glasses,they were just in an accident spun out
like they could have been flown offand gone somewhere else.
Right. Right.
A shoes is definitely weird.
I have from from

(18:11):
some previous work on a different projectI worked on.
I've actually come acrossa lot of missing person cases
where shoes are foundor people are found without shoes on.
It is.
Yeah, it is far too commonand there's a lot of different reasons why
it doesn't really make sense in this case,
because sometimes it has to do with waterbecause fish can actually eat

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like feet and stuff.
And it's also usuallythe first part of the body to decompose.
But there's nothing about her feetbeing off her body or anything.
So it isit is weird that her shoes are missing.
And also it was cold.
Like,why does she have her shoes off? Right.
Maybe it's more comfortable.And I don't know. It's just it's weird.
Again, it's just one of the bizarrepieces, Pieces of evidence.

(18:55):
Arnold's clothes could not be determined
that that's what he was wearingthe day of the crash.
A lot of people onlinemake a big to do about this
because they're like,oh, he's a different clothes.
And it's like they went. Homeand then they came back.
And then they came back. But they can't.
They just say they can't determineit's the same clothes.
It doesn't mean it was different clothesand people online really grab onto this

(19:16):
and like, oh, of coursesomething nefarious happened.
Yeah. However, it is it is weird.
It is weird, but how often do you rememberwhat someone wore?
Really rememberwhat someone had on the day before
and you can't even remember what you worethe day before?
That's not.
Exactly. Exactly.
I don't think there were pictures of themthat night.
You know, I don't think they posedfor a photo before going out.

(19:37):
Yeah.
No, noCCTV footage from all this bar hopping.
Yeah.
Something tells me there's not a lotof CCTV cameras in South Dakota in 1992.
So the weirdest thing to me,my own personal weird
saying that stands out is Arnoldwas found with a set of keys on him,
and it was keys to a houseand keys to a car.

(19:58):
The keys were not to his house,not to rubies, not not to any known house
they could ever figure out.
And the car key was not to any carthat they could ever figure out.
So that is super weird. As very.
And the time of death could not be.
Yeah,the time of death could not be determined.
But they both died from the elements,from hypothermia.

(20:19):
And the coroner's reportsaid that they likely died somewhere else
entirely or sorry, not the report,but there were comments from investigators
saying, yeah, this is really weird.
They likely died somewhere else.
And on top of that, an additional report.
There was evidencethat was sent to a lab in New Mexico
and the evidence came back from New Mexicosaying hypothermia may have killed them,

(20:42):
but it could also have been somethingelse, which is a very open ended question.
That just leads you to more mystery.
Right?
So that is another weird thingI have not been able to find
that report or detailsabout this lab in New Mexico.
So this is for listeners out there.
If anybody's really been following thiscase and has a copy of that

(21:04):
or has more details than just like, oh,it may have been something else,
I would love to actually knowdetails of that.
Feel free to reach out to meat a study of Strange at gmail.com.
And yes, so Ruby's father, QuintonBruyere, had his own theory.
He's quoted as saying they had to diesomeplace else.
Somebody had to comeand put them back in there again

(21:26):
to make it look likethat's where they died.
And this leads us into this ideasince the decomposition levels
were different, said with the carkeys, the question about clothing,
the question about like,okay, was it hypothermia?
Was it not hypothermia?
This is getting really weird leadsnow to the conspiracy.

(21:46):
I shouldn't even say conspiracies.
It's just theories that something elsemay have happened to them entirely
and that they werebrought back to this site.
And that is one of the main theoriesof people from people that believe
that something else went on herebesides just a car crash.
And I'm going to have you read, Brooke,

(22:07):
the saying I sent you.
Yeah.
This is a quote from an articlein The Argus Leader on March
13th, 1993,which is one of the local papers.
So do you have that in front of you?
I have it in front of me where we readthe whole thing that you sent.
The whole thing. The whole thing is.
Yeah, gotcha.
A lake.
And these couple most likely did not diein the ditch where their bodies

(22:30):
were found this week.
But early autopsy results showthe two died of exposure.
A prosecutor said Friday officialsfound the body of Arnold Archambault.
Listen.
I have to say a friendly ArnoldArchambault, 20, on Thursday,
about 15 feet from where the body of Ruben

(22:50):
Brucia, I'll say it for Angele,
19, was found Wednesdayfloating in several
feet of water in a ditch,about one quarter mile east of Lake Andes.
The bodies were found about 75 feetfrom the accident site.
We're certain these bodies were not thereat the time of the accident,
said Tim Whalen,Charles Mix, County state's attorney.

(23:14):
Although he can't say how long the bodies
got there, although he can't sayhow the bodies got there.
Whalen said it's unlikelythe couple died where they were found.
I don't
believe that they did for two reasons.
One, they weren't there to.
All of a sudden,the bodies show up on March 10th and 11th.

(23:36):
Their manner of time, their mannerand time of death
is still under investigate.
Gee, that's wild. Yeah.
So even authorities are questioningwhat happened.
What's going on? Tim Whalen.
Yeah, come on. Tim.

(23:58):
Oh, come on, Tim.
I also like the way that he just says
that, like, they weren't there.
They weren't thereat the first investigation.
Like, were you guys drinking?
Were you also drinking?
What happened?
What's going.
On? I'm actually going to jump aheadin some of my notes, Brooke,
because you bring up something I want toI wanted to comment with this story. So

(24:22):
the bigtheory about something else happened
and they were brought backbecause that is what a lot of people
like I said before, it'swhat a lot of people think.
And even herein, you know, an authority figure
in the investigation is sayingthey weren't there.
I actually think my personal theory,again, I'm jumping ahead CASM,
skipping over notes.
But my personal theoryis that they did die there.

(24:43):
I think that makes the most sense.I think it's the simplest thing.
I think simple thingsusually end up being true.
I think they fell through iceor got covered up with ice.
Yeah.
And even if they wandered off,even if they wandered
off, like, again, drunk head injuries,all that kind of stuff,
they could have fallen into the lakeand only via Google Maps.

(25:03):
So I could be wrong.
I'm not there in person, but I'm therein person as you can get digitally.
But there does seem to be from wherethe crash site was an area almost like
almost like a there's like a bridgewhere this old train track was.
And underneath it there is an areafor like runoff of the lake
water to come in to that depression area.
So I actually think between the thawingand refreezing of water,

(25:26):
because it was still warmenough in December
that time of year, where during the dayit would get above freezing.
So you have waterwhich is warming and then freezing
and then thawing and then freezingand then moving and then freezing.
You have all this kind of stuffwhere I actually think they could have
fallen underneaththe ice and moved around a bit over time
and maybe even have fallen in the icein the lake.
And it's sort of been
brought back in over three monthsof all that that natural thawing.

(25:50):
Yeah,the bodies could have washed into there.
That's that's kind of what I'm thinking.
I, you know, I could be wrong.
I'm happy to be wrong with these things.
But even if they didn't go into the lakeand then sort of drift in over time,
even if they just disappeared right
there, there are thousands of storiesof missing people where, yeah,
no one can believe when they eventuallyfind like a dead body.

(26:12):
People are like, But we searched here.
We searched here three months ago.
We searched it yesterday. We were right.
We were right. Here.And we didn't. Notice the same thing.
When I lose my keys, I'm like,Oh, you find them.
You're like, I looked here,but maybe aliens came and took my keys
and then brought them back.
I don't know, because I look.
I mean, that'swhat I was going to suggest.

(26:33):
That's what I was going to suggest.
No, but it is it is a weird thing.
How hard it is to actually find stuff.
And it's again, this happened in December.
From what I looked up,there was not a ton of snow on the ground,
but there is iceand there was about to be more snow.
So if they had fallen through the icethat day and it froze back over

(26:54):
or whatever, even if they keep searchingnow suddenly more snow is coming.
Things are happening to the environmentto change it.
It makes it very hard toto look for people.
So anyway, I jumped ahead on my ownpersonal theory there.
But that's kind ofwhat's going on in my head.
The only thing that
throws a monkey wrench into that, though,is the different decomposition levels,
because that still doesn't match them justdying at the same time of hypothermia.

(27:19):
Right.
And I did read it.I couldn't find it again.
But when I was researching this,
someone had commented on likeit may have been like unsolved rt.com
for unsolved mysteriesor something like that.
But someone talked about how basicallyif someone was higher up
in the iceand during the fall of the season,
they would have started decomposing fasterearlier than the other person.

(27:42):
So everybody would havewould have done that.
I forget the specifics of how they set itup, but it seemed to make sense.
And I tried to find that again.And I couldn't find it.
But that was the only theory I saw that.
MAY Yeah, that was the only theory I sawthat actually kind of makes sense in that.
Yeah, I'm not a scientist.
I want to stress that I'm not a scientist,

(28:04):
but I do think
ice would slow right preserved things.
Yeah, I feel like absolutely.
When people die on a cruise ship,they pop them in ice.
Peppermint, ice. That's what they do.
Well, you went to cruise shippeople dying on cruise ships first.
Have you been around that?

(28:24):
No, I haven't been.
For some reason, I.
I read about it not too long ago.
I was like, oh, man,somebody dies on your cruise
and like a family memberand you kind to just stay there and, like,
keep it in that buffet food and yeah,
Uncle Joe is on ice
below deck.

(28:45):
He's such a tangent, butI've the only cruise I've ever been on.
They thought somebody fell overboardand so they were there to stop the ship.
They put search boats in the water
and we I think we got locked downlike we couldn't go outside.
Everybody had to stay inside. Yeah.
And then they and then theyI think it was like a teenager.

(29:06):
And so the parents were like,oh, they fell overboard.
And everybody'sthinking this teenager fell overboard.
And it turned outthe teenager was like, just in their room.
Yeah.
And because they couldn't find him or her,they just freaked out and assumed that
they fell overboard. Right.
Some need to be thrown overboard.
Exactly. Let's be.

(29:27):
Let's be honest.
Pesky teenagers.
So back to the sadness of this story.
Yes. So there are some other theoriesthat are a bit wackadoo.
And I didn't put like all the details down
because it was a little too crazyfor what I wanted to do in the episode.

(29:48):
But there there is like a local gossipyrumor theory
saying there's a guy that lived inlike the mountains on the other
side of the lake that cameand saw them that night or that morning,
I should say, and like wandering aroundand kidnaped them and kept them
chained up in this houseor cabin on the other side of the lake.

(30:08):
Wow. Yeah.
There's there's the theory about thembeing dumped back in this spot
after they were taken somewhereand then killed in order to cover up
that somebody took themand killed them somewhere else.
There'sa little bit of a witness testimony
that gives some validity to that, which isthat somebody saw a blazer type vehicle

(30:31):
pull up near where the bodies were found,like the morning Ruby's body was found.
So that blazer type of vehicle could beit could have been dumping a body.
I will kind of debunk that right away,which is
it doesn't make any senseto cover up your crime
by bringing these bodies backbecause you're just creating
more situationsfor you to leave evidence to get caught.

(30:53):
You could cut your hairand you could shed hair.
You could leave DNA all over the place.
It doesn't actually help youto bring it back to the spot.
And also more witnesses.This is a highway.
Everybody thinksthere's like no one driving this road.
This is a busy road.
So now you have a ton of witnesseswatching you dump bodies in a ditch.
Like,it just doesn't make sense to me. No, no.
And for that to be like, anisolated thing, Do you know what I mean?

(31:16):
Like, if you were a personwho took the took, would take people from
crime scenes, torture them somewhere else,and then drop them back off.
Like, that's not the first timeyou've done anything like that.
It wouldn't be the only you wouldn't like.
Do that once and then be like, I'm good.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You know, weird.
Yeah, absolutely.

(31:37):
Here's the, I guess, theory
isn't the right word for this,but here is one of a witness account that
is pretty
spectacular and has even made its wayinto unsolved mysteries and stuff.
And that's that a witness claimsthat on New Year's Eve.
So this is three weeksor so after the accident happened

(31:58):
and Ruby and Arnold disappearedthat this woman saw.
I think I think it's a woman.They never say who the name.
They probably hide the name,but they say a witness.
I think it was a woman.
So I'm just going to sayshe could be wrong with that.
But she claims that she saw Arnolddriving a car
with two people in his backseaton New Year's Eve.
And they actually smoke spoke.

(32:20):
They they interacted.
It is a small town. She knows who he is.
So she just, you know,oh, it's Arnold and talked to him a bit.
She ended up taking a lie detector testand she passed the two people
she claims were in the car with.
Arnold also had to take a liedetector test test.
And they fail old.
And they said because they said, no,that wasn't Arnold, but they failed.

(32:43):
Now, lie detector tests are famouslypretty terrible, not reliable.
But this is someone that that really
very muchdetermined, very sincere in her belief
that she talked to Arnoldon New Year's Eve.
I again, I kind of think this is not true.
She may believe it, but I. Don't thinkit's true because, again, it's.

(33:05):
A small town.
Yeah, Yeah.
Sorry, lady.
New Year's Eve,you were probably drinking.
Come on. Boom, boom, right there.
And also against small town.
If he's hiding out,
if he's supposed to be missinghis family doesn't even know where he is.
But now he's out
just hanging with buddies on New
Year's Eve like the world is going toget back to his family that he's around.
And even this womanwould have already known the story, right?

(33:28):
She would have already knownwhat happened.
So if you had a conversation with himon New Year's,
maybe the conversation would be like, Hey,I thought you were dead.
Where have you been?
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe we should go to the police.
Exactly. Yeah. This was in the newspapers.
I think everybodywould have heard about that.
So it's a bizarre thing.
Now, another witness said that they sawRuby and Arnold

(33:50):
get into a car after the accident,which leads
or ties in to that theory that, oh,maybe somebody picked him up.
And this witness says that they wereheading east, which is away from town.
Another witness says that
they saw Bruyere in the town of Wagneron January 20th.
So almost two months later,

(34:11):
none of these witness accountskind of led to anything specific.
But those are some accountsthat are worthy of of just hearing about.
Yeah, the the investigation was ledby local law enforcement.
They ended up being criticizedfor mishandling the evidence
and not thoroughly pursuing all the leads.
And this could be because it is claimedby some of the family and friends

(34:33):
that because the cases involved natives,
that the victims werenot as aggressively investigated.
And there's a long history of this,not just in South Dakota.
And again, on another project,I worked on it.
Oh yeah, in Oklahoma.
This project I worked on,we came across this too, where there was
basically a missing personwho was a Native American, and the police

(34:54):
did not put the same amount of effortin that case.
Right? Yeah.
So I do believe that it does sound likesome of the the deputies
were working very hard at this, butthis is at least a claim by the family.
And I wouldn't doubt itif it if it is true. Right.
The FBI ended uptaking over the investigation
and this is due to some reservationboundary issue lawsuits

(35:16):
that it got really complicatedwhen I was reading about it.
So just know that there wassome lawsuits involved in it.
It actually caused the FBI to take overthe lead in investigating this crime.
But after some time, they determinedit was just an accident.
There's not enough evidence toto say that it's anything more than that.
So the FBI closed the case.

(35:36):
I do want to mention this.
It reminds me of a storythat I worked on on a TV show
I produced about the Yuba County five.
Have you ever heard of that?
That name, that story?
It sounds very familiar.
So in Yuba County, which is in California,these five men in the seventies
went to a basketball game,a college basketball game.
They drove homethat they never returned home.

(35:59):
And it was latertheir car was found in the mountains.
They couldn't find the bodies.
Two bodies were foundmonths later, miles and miles apart.
There was I can't remember specifically,but I think somebody was found
without shoes on and somebody's shoeswere found somewhere else than their body.
So that's an interesting thing.
There is a great podcast.
If you just search Yuba County five,look for a series that a company produced

(36:23):
that is really well done
and they talked to a lot of the familymembers and staff of Yuba County five.
It is an amazing mystery to dodo a deep dive on.
But this story reminded of that andbecause I know that that story so well,
that may be one of the reasonswhy I was so interested in Arnold Archer
and Ruby Bruyere.
So yeah, that's kind of it.

(36:45):
I already shared my this is where I wouldnormally share my personal theory,
but I want to share that, thatI actually think they they wandered away
drunk and with head injuriesand froze to death nearby.
And they were just unfortunatelynot found until months later.
Yeah, that sounds because
yeah, I
mean, it sounds like the investigationprobably.

(37:07):
Sorry.
Tim Whalen I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened, but,you know, people have a tendency,
I think in small towns,
small areas like that,the police would sort of
also like that teenager thingI know is making fun of teenagers earlier.
But I don't think they deserve to be hurt.

(37:30):
You know, you good.
Thank you.Thank you for. Clarifying. Clarify.
Let me clarify.
I don't want teenagers to be thrown offboats, but,
you know, you've got kids out drinkingand we've all kind of like seen these
this like attitude,
like a law enforcement,older people in general.
It almost be a feeling of likethey got what they deserved or

(37:53):
they shouldn't have been doing thator they'll turn up later.
You know, or it'll all work out.
So, like,it sounds like somebody dropped the ball.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe it's so hard to saywithout being there.
This is one of thosewhere I really feel like
you got to be there in person,got to be them.
You got to like, especially, like,getting a sense of that ditch.

(38:14):
Like, is it connected to the lake at all?
Like, I think it might be,
but it's saying,you know, how the water interacts.
Like,how stagnant is that water in that ditch?
And what is itwhen it freezes over in the winter?
Now, I know they have investigators
there on the ground
that know the area that areprobably very aware of these things.

(38:34):
But it's so hard for an outsiderto kind of go in there and really.
Really have to really figure outa it's a depression, not like how how big
is that?
And like, what's the scopewhere all did they search?
The thing that's tripping me upthe most is that it's daytime

(38:55):
when they're doing the whole.
It's so, yeah,
like how cold is it? And
I did look up weather information,
so I think it was in the thirtieswhen the sun was up.
It does.
That's why I was saying there'ssome sawing and freezing happening
and it's just like minor leaguebecause again we think

(39:16):
when I first heard this casebefore I really dove into research,
I thought, Oh, there's snow everywhere.
So of course that tracks is yeah.
But when I looked it up,
yeah, when I looked it up there had notbeen a lot of precipitation recently.
I think there was like a week or so afterand there wasn't
a ton of snow on the groundand it was freezing.
But during the day it was, I thinkit was getting into the forties still.

(39:39):
So that's above freezingand it's Fahrenheit
just in case any listenersoutside of the United States out there.
But yeah, so it's not as it's not as crazycold.
I don't know when the sun rose,but I think by
by the time they were definitelythey're searching, it is the day
like they're not searching at night.
They're searching when it's light out.
Yeah, really weird

(40:01):
hints.
A study of strange So yeah.
What can we learn from this book?
Is there anything to learn?
Well, I mean, I don't think there'sanything for us to learn.
We're not teenagers anymore.
Yeah, Yeah, it's true.
I know everything now. We know everything.
Yeah, exactly.
You know?
Yep. Yep.

(40:22):
Gosh, very true. Very true.
But no, this is a this is a big one.
And in my show Noteslisteners, I will provide links to.
If you have any information about this,I'll provide links to the appropriate law
enforcement office to get in touch withif you know anything they did pass away.
But if there's more informationabout what, what or how that happened,
definitely reach outto authorities if you can.

(40:45):
Well, thank you so much.
A very sad story. And on.
Your cell.
Well, yeah, I'd like.
To I'd like to leave you feeling sad.
Yeah,
it'd be it'd be niceif you could in the episode of like.
Yes, it was aliens confirmed Alienstook them away and brought them back.
Yeah.
You know what?

(41:05):
Why don't let's. I'mjust going to end that tonight.
Yeah, that it was aliens.That's what they say.
Aliens took them up.
And while they were with the aliens,they had a wonderful time.
It was nice. Aliens. Yeah, Civilization.
It was.
They actually lived full lives becausethey, they actually traveled through time.
Time worked very differently for thisalien race.

(41:29):
That's right.
And and and so they were brought back,you know,
three months after thethe night that they were taken.
But, however, they didlive full, fulfilling lives.
So good for them.
Yes. Solved.
Hopefully thathelps you feel better. Well.
Well, thank you again, Brooke.
Why don't you plug some stuff?

(41:49):
I know you got some stuff coming up.
Do you want. To tell people about.
Well, you know, always
I can always plugI do a show called 30 minute musicals
where we take moviesand we turn them into 30 minute musicals.
And there's some stuff onlinethat people can look up
and watch on our YouTube channel.

(42:09):
And if you happen to be in the LosAngeles area,
you can come and see us in Los Angeles.
And if you happen to live in the UnitedKingdom,
in in Augustwill be at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival
and you can seea 30 minute musical of Top Gun.
So if that's something that anyone outthere is into always fun to do.

(42:34):
Yeah, I'm glad Top Gunand getting some attention
because that is athat's a series of a couple of movies
that no one's really watchedso I'm glad you give it some thought.
No one cares about that at all.
It's amazing.
Now, that's amazing.Yeah. Everybody check it out.
And thank you again, Brooke.
Thanks for coming. Yeah,thanks for having me. It's so fun.
We solved it. Solved.

(42:57):
All right, great.I'll talk to you soon. Thanks.
That'll do it for the show.
Thank you for listening.Thank you again, Brooke Sagan.
Listeners, make sure to hit thatplus or follow button
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(43:19):
Next weekI'm returning to some paranormal activity
where I'm going to do a deep diveon one of the most well-known
and just dramatic stories of ghoststhat's ever come out of Canada.
And I'm really excited about that one.
So make sure you are followingand can get that episode.

(43:40):
Thank you all again and goodnight.
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