December 19, 2024 • 49 mins
Life can feel like an unending battle, but what happens when you let God take the lead? In this heartfelt episode of Between Sermons, Ti’heasha Beasley sits down with Asa Slaughter and Ariane Ogunlana to explore what it means to trust God as Jehovah Nissi—the Lord Our Banner. Through personal stories and raw conversations, they unpack how to stay in the fight without losing faith, the power of prayer and community, and the practical steps to rely on God’s strength when life feels overwhelming. Whether you’re grieving, battling doubt, or just trying to hold on, this episode reminds us that God sees the struggle and is right there fighting for us.
Tune in to find encouragement, hope, and a renewed perspective for whatever season you’re in.
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4, 3, 2.
Good afternoon and welcome to another episode of Between
Sermons. My name is Taisha Beasley, and typically I'm
the co host, but today we have Pastor Brandt,
who is the host. He is out, and I
am joined here with two special guests. But before
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we dive into that, I just want to apologize
if you were with us maybe at the top
of 12. We had a little bit of technical
difficulties, but we are back ready to continue the
conversation. So again, I want to introduce my amazing
guest for the show. Let's go with Pastor Asa.
Thank you so much for being with us today.
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How are you?
I'm awesome. No problem.
Thanks for inviting me. What was that look for?
I'm awesome. I didn't know when you was gonna
stop talking. I was like. It was like double
Dutch. I was ready to jump in, but.
I wasn't sure what you know about double Dutch.
I know all about it, but anyway, I'm Asa.
Yes. Pastor Asa, we're so happy to have you
here. I know you are a longtime guest of
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Between Sermons, so it's always a pleasure. Long time
guest, like you were here in the previous season.
I was in the beginning. There was Asa, there
was Ash on the podcast.
We're always happy to have you here and have
you a part of this conversation. And we are
also joined by my amazing sister, Ari. How are
you?
I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
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You look amazing.
Thank you. So do you.
Yes, thank you. So I'm happy we have this
little girl thing going on. We'll just let Pastor
Asa fill in the gaps there.
Yes.
So we might cry, we might get emotional, but
you gonna realize I'm gonna cry it too.
So, I mean, don't think y'all gonna cry without
me. I'm down for some crying.
Especially about the Lord. He's so good. Like, how
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can you not cry?
I don't know. He is good.
He is so good.
My last cry was a Holy Spirit inspired cry,
I think, unless I was just being emotional, but
I think it was more of a emotion toward
Jesus. Don't ask me what that was about.
I was gonna.
We good.
We're very open. We try to be very open
on this show. So, no, we'll let you sit
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with that moment, but I really wanna dive into
the conversation, kind of pick back up. We were
in some good discussion. So to the best of
our ability, we're gonna try to jump back into
that conversation. Yesterday, we had heard a great message
from Mama Chris, as some of us know her
by, and Pastor Chris as someone and. And the
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whole thing was she opened with that saying, you
know, some of you guys know me as Mama
Chris. Some of you know me as PC Some
of you know me as Pastor Chris. Your name
gives is a reflection of your relationship. And so,
diving back into the conversation about Jehovah Nisi, let's
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just start there. What does that mean for you,
Pastor Asa?
Jehovah Nisi. Jehovah Nisi. I almost forgot for a
second. I say my provider. That's Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah
Nisi. So the God that fights my battles, what
does that mean to me? I would say that
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my experience with Jehovah Nisi has brought me to
a place where I know that the best thing
for my life is to allow him to actually
fight my battles. So that's my relationship and what
it means to me.
That's good.
All right, what about you, Sister H. Because I
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know I have a fighter, a. A God who
is a fighter. My fight looks different as I
mature. So, yeah, that's good.
So if you hadn't had an opportunity to catch
that sermon, I just encourage you to go rewatch
the message from Pastor Chris yesterday. It talked about
Jehovah n as part of the name dropping series
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and how he is our banner, he is our
protector, he does vindicate us. Like, I. I may
just be adding words to this, and you can
correct me, Pastor Asa, but I see him as
all of those things. And I think we were
discussing before there was a little break how depending
on the season you're in, how that name, you
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rely on it and how it shows up for
you. So, I mean, I guess in this particular
season, hearing the message, what was something that really
stood out to you and that really, like, impacted
you or empowered you?
Yeah, I think my fight this season is fighting
prayer. Like, that's just it. I'm not doing anything
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outside of that. And of course, that applies to
every season. But I think sometimes he's calling you
to be a little more active in some areas
versus just the prayer part. And so I think
right now he is calling me to pray and
release, and that is where I am. I think
it's been just really refreshing to know that, like,
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hey, I don't have to do anything else but
just come to you, sit at your feet, lay
my burdens down, and that you'll. You'll do with
it what you need to do. And, like, I
don't have to worry about anything else. So that's
my fight this season.
Yeah, that's good. Now I Know, Pastor Issa, you
reflected a little bit on your childhood before we
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got interrupted it. Do you feel like it's the
same for you? It just carries that reflection from
seeing your mom, how she handled battles in the
past, like, seeing her just stand and be still
and trust God. Do you feel like that is
kind of, like, translated into, like, who you are
today or where you are today?
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Yeah, I would say so. It's funny. Let me
go back to what Ari was saying, and just
being in a season of where she just feel
like she need to be taking everything to prayer,
I think that's huge. And how else are you
going to let God fight your battles? What I've
learned over the course of my life and as
we mature, as you said, is that even when
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there's enemies or somebody you might be mad at
or whatever the case may be, the Bible tells
us to pray for our enemies. And I think
it tells us that because it's really hard to
truly pray for somebody and stay mad or the
Holy Spirit not point out to you that Christ
died for you. So why are you acting this
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way towards somebody else? So a big part of
when I'm in a battle is really. That is
really trying to see that person as somebody that
Christ died for. And that's what's been helpful to
me. Back to my mom. We grew up in
a lot of situations where without prayer, we was
going to be out of luck. It was one
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particular time that I can think about where we
came home and our stuff was out on the
curb, and for a kid to come home and
you're evicted, but to not have, like, any. I
have no, like, trauma. I have no, like, hard
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feelings or weirdness from that. Because the. What I
remember from those few times that that was the
case was my mother staying firm in the word
of God and in prayer. And then like, hey,
the Lord got us. It'll be okay. And in
each of those situations, by the end of the
day, we had somewhere to live. And the funny
part is, each time I feel like it got
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better. It was like, man, I didn't miss.
That old spot at all.
It was a major upgrade when in the morning,
our stuff was sold. So I got to experience
a lot of battle fighting as. As I grew
up. And I knew who was fighting him because
it wasn't nothing to do but watch my mother
pray and stay strong in the Lord and tell
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us to do the same.
Wow. I mean, that's amazing. I can't even imagine,
like, how many siblings did you have?
So my Mother has three boys. I do have
another brother and sister, but I've grown up with.
But, yeah, I'm the youngest of three boys. And,
man, some of the stories, I think my brother
might be a little more scarred. He's older. But
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some of the stories that get told, I'm like,
hell, I should be screwed up, but I'm okay.
Jesus.
Look at God. Look at Jesus.
Yeah, man. Absolutely.
Yeah. Because I was just thinking. I couldn't imagine,
like, just thinking about some trials and things that
I'm facing now. Just not being able to provide
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for my son or my sons, in your mother's
case, and still standing strong and not letting that
bring her down like that speaks a lot to
just where she was in her relationship to Christ
and how she really stood on him. And I
don't know about you, I feel like 20, 24
ain't giving us no wiggle room. It's like, you
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either gonna learn how to stand on me or
you just gonna fall. Like, I mean, I don't
know if that's just my own personal struggles. Just
being completely honest, I feel like, of course we
experience God's grace, but I feel like there's some
lessons he want us to learn very quickly. And
I'm not really sure why that pressure is there,
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but just hearing the message yesterday reminded me that
a lot of the things that I am facing,
I need to really submit it to God. Because
me trying to take it into my own hands
and control it, it's just provide. It's just creating
more problems, even for myself. Like, I just found
out I had high blood pressure. I mean, through
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the roof. And God is. I feel like that
was a sign. Like, girl, either you're gonna submit
to me, lay this stuff down, or it's gonna
take you out. Literally.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, I mean, how was there the sermon? Did
it provide, like, this insight for you? Like, I
need to change some things personally or something? I
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want to work on, you know.
What I am in such a season of, like,
surrender that, like, it was just a reminder of
what the Lord has already been impressing on me.
I think that sometimes we forget, even as believers,
even as mature believers and, you know, dealing with
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warfare throughout our lives, like, warfare takes strategies. So
what is the strategy that you're actually using? Are
you using your emotion to battle? Well, you're probably
going to lose that. That war or that fight
with just emotion alone. Okay, so what does this
actually look like? And so I think it was
just a reminder of, like, okay, Lord, what's the
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Strategy for this season. Okay. Is it like a
fight? Like, do I need to be, you know,
up at night and using my. My scripture and
calling it out and like, fighting against, like, you
know, principalities? Or is it just the, hey, let
me relax and let me pray and let me,
you know, like, give it to the Lord and
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just rest in that? Or is it something else?
Like, I don't know. But I think that it
does require strategy, so. Yeah, that's a reminder.
Yeah. What was the question? I was listening to
Ari. That was so good, Ari. I forgot the
question. She looked at me and I'm like, is
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it my turn?
Right? No, I was just saying in real time.
What did that sermon speak to you?
Well, based on the fact that I was in
and out of service yesterday, the parts. That one
part that did catch me, I came in. It's
so funny because I came in from being in
other areas and I sat down in the empty
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seat. And she was talking about the part where
they was lifting up Moses hands. And within that,
she was talking about the eight people that constantly
praise for her. And I know that I'm sure
she's talking about her pit crew.
Yeah.
Her pastor intercessor group team. Yeah.
I don't have a pit crew. Like, I need.
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Why is it just pastors that got a pit
crew?
I feel like we all need.
Yeah. So in these two years where I've been
a pastor here at CLC and I got a
pit crew, and it's so funny, cause they like
to brag on themselves. I gotta tell em that
that ain't love. Love talks about how we don't
boast. But anyway. But my pit crew leader was
just talking about, man, we the best pit crew,
man. We keep you lifted up. We always friends.
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So he literally, every Wednesday morning, he sends me
a message, hey, you got any updates on your
prayer request? I send it. He sends it out
to the group and they're praying. But I would
say during this time where I've been a pastor,
yesterday when she said that, I saw that, I
was like, yeah. These battles that we've had, these
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two years, I'm well aware that a lot of
the answers that I've gotten to be able to
talk to somebody or the way situations have turned
out, a huge part of that is those eight
people, four couples that's praying for me and my
wife and my family. So, yes, I agree with
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you. Everybody should have a pit crew. Everybody should
have a crew of people.
That'S praying for them.
I think we do, though.
Who you got a crew. I mean, your own
personal.
Yes.
Okay.
So, yeah, I think the relationship part of life,
that is where you build your pit crew. Like,
I'm not going through anything alone because I know
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I got my mama, my auntie, my best friends,
my church people, whoever, praying for me, so I'm
always covered. And so I think we do. It's
just that we don't utilize it sometimes either.
The way that we should.
Yeah, the way that we should.
Yeah. And we don't utilize it in a. I
would say with my crew, it's more personal that
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I would get with just random people. Hey, pray
for me. I mean, that's the idea, is you
gotta get somebody you trust that could. You know,
that you can tell personal things to. That's gonna
lift you and your family up in prayer and
not go tell it from the mountain.
Absolutely.
Because I was sitting here thinking, like, I definitely
have people friends that I can text and be
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like, hey, keep this lifted. But do I have
that person I could just be very specific with
and be like, girl, da, da, da, da, da.
I need you to pray for this. I don't.
I don't know. I think I do. I think
I just haven't utilized it to get very specific
and pray about it and for air, and I
shut down. Like, I'm learning that about myself, too.
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Like, when I'm in, like, crisis mode, like, baby,
I'll isolate myself. Yeah. And I know that's not
healthy, so I think I'm. I'm a take that
nugget and start leaning into my pick. I mean,
we can't call it.
You got to figure out a name.
The Lit Crew, The Intercessors.
It's a good time to figure that out after
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the podcast. But, Ari, it's funny because you actually.
When you said that, I'm like, yeah, that's so
true. So I said I wasn't telling stories today,
but I got another question.
Look at the Holy Spirit.
So when my daughter, who is now 14. What
is Ava? 14? When she was born, she was
born, everything looked cool, seemed normal, but they wouldn't
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bring her to the room. And after a while,
it's like, okay, what's going on? What's going on?
So turns out that her lungs wasn't fully developed.
And so it went from that to. It went
pretty bad at about three days. Three days into
that, the doctors told us, and we hadn't. She's
been in the incubator and on breathing stuff for
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three days. The doctors told us. All right, well,
We've done all we can do.
Oh, my gosh.
She's too sick to send to the children's hospital.
So our advice to y'all would be just spend
as much time as y'all can with her. I'm
like, oh, alrighty then. So I went from that
conversation. I had a little meltdown in, like, the
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stairwell real quick. And then I called my mama
and my mother's. I come across this email now
that my mother sent out that day to her
pit crew. It wasn't her pit crew. It was
her crew of people that pray. And it was
like, hey, this is the situation. We need to
pray that Ava's lungs develop. And she sent the
email to all her praying friends. And seven days
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later, day 10 of Ava's life. We're watching her
get better and better, and some of the machines
start to get pulled off. And day 10, they
called us in and said, well, y'all can take
her home today. And my wife, being the nurse
that she is, she asking all type of question.
What does that mean? Does it mean this. Does
it mean that they, like, y'all can take her
home and act like none of this never happened?
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Her lungs are perfectly fine. Treat her as a
normal child.
Wow.
And it was because of. I know it was
because of my mother's pit crew. You know what
I mean? Her crew of people that she was
able to reach out to and say, hey, let's
pray. And they lifted that up in prayer and
they let the Lord fight that battle. And in
that moment, I was acting like I didn't know
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Jesus. That's the sad part about it. But I
literally was. I was in a space, in a
space of time where I was kind of running
from God, but he was still willing to fight
my battle. So that's why the last time I
cried was because God is that good. He is
that good to where if you just allow him
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in and allow him to be God in your
life, it'll be a real relationship that you would
have with God. That only comes through experience. And
that's a thing. So, yeah.
Yeah, that is a real thing. And. And, man,
that's an amazing testimony. And I. But what. What.
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What's coming to my mind is what do we
do when we don't see those testimonies? What do
we do when we are praying or we're in
the middle of something and it doesn't seem like
God is answering and he's responding?
Yeah.
How does relying on God as Jehovah Nisi. Like,
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how does that look in those.
Moments, for me, I think it looks at continuing
to look at His Word and know that that's
the truth. That's the final answer. Because when I'm
in battles like that, stand in the word, looking
at the word, saying what His Word says, continuing
in prayer, and then reflecting on those times where
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you've seen God's answers, where you've seen answered prayer.
A lot of it to me is reflecting and
looking back on, like, I've seen this before, so
I'm going to stand strong. Not that you got
to have experiences, but, Lord, experience helps in those
moments and being able to literally just stay there,
but also knowing that if it don't go the
way I wanted it to go, God is still
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good. He's still on the throne. Things happen that
I might not understand, but he's still good. But
in those moments, I usually go until I come
to a place of rest. Because to me, in
prayer, it's usually a pray, pray, pray, pray, pray.
And then at some point, I feel like I
hear the Lord say, you've cast that care on
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me. Now relax, rest. And that's kind of, I
think, the place that we have to get to
in prayer, pray. But he'll give you some rest
in there at some point, and it's our job
to take that rest.
Yeah, I think for me, when I don't see
something coming to pass, it's like you said, like,
he hasn't failed me yet. So I know he's
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gonna do something. Whether it looks like what I
want him to, you know, to do or something
different, I know that the outcome is going to
be for my good. So personally, I like to
turn my focus to peace, joy, and other things
that can keep me strong while I'm waiting on
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him to finish fighting the battle. Because I think
a lot of times, like when you are in
battle, you start to forget all of the other
things that you need to have in order to
have a victory. Right. Like, you don't want to
have a victory and then be so beat down,
worn out that, like, you can't even enjoy what
God did for you. Which it does happen, and
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it happens. Right? So I think it's important to
like, and. And I'm a believer in nursing your
wounds for sure. Like, sometimes we don't do a
good job of, like, making sure, hey, that hurt
me. That really, you know, did something to me.
So nurse the wounds, but then turn your focus
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to something else that you also need. So then
when the victory is won, then it can be
a well rounded, like celebration of like man. I
maintain my peace, I maintain my joy, I maintain
my character, my integr, my sanity. All of those
things that make it just even more of a
victory.
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Yeah, no, those were good, good points. And, and
my, my standpoint on this show is always to
be the voice of the people.
Yes.
So I'm always going to ask questions to get
the conversation or like us really thinking about for
those who are not strong in their faith and
they're in a season where like, man, it's hard
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to really know or to get to know God
as Jehovah Nisi. And so I want us to
move into those practical ways. We can start applying
that to our lives. But one thing I've been
feeling for this season, one word is like fortify
our faith, Holy spirit. Because I feel like sometimes
these battles are long and sometimes you are asking
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God, where you at, homie? Not that I say
God is homie, but I talk to God very.
I talk to God very well. He know what
I'm talking about. Okay. And I'm just like. And
I just hear him say things like, be still,
know that I'm God. Or even when he's checking
me because in those battles we gotta get checked
too. So it's like a soft word, turns away
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harsh, you know? So it's like a soft answer,
turns away wrath. So it's like he's constantly speaking
to us and things of that nature. But I
do feel like there is seasons where the enemy
is coming specifically for your faith and your hope
in Christ. So what are some practical ways that
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we could really lean into? And Mama Chris kind
of pointed it out in her. Her points to
help us stay strong and really cling to him
as Jehovah Nisi. But what are some practical ways
that we could really cling to that and trust
him as the Lord, our banner in this season?
Yeah. So I think it starts with, so there's
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things you can do before you ever get to
the battle. So one analogy would be the boxer
don't show up to fight the battle and now
he need to go train. Let me go lift
some weights real quick. The fight about to start
in 30 minutes. So there's this preparation that needs
to be happening really at all times because battles
are going to continue to come. You know what
I mean? I don't mean there all the time,
but at some point, if you're alive, you're going
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to have another battle. So to me it starts
with, okay, I need to be building myself up
in the Word what does the Word say about
it? And how can I be building myself up
and building faith? The Bible tells us that faith
comes by the Word and the word of God.
So how can I be building faith? First of
all, so let me be looking at the word
of God, talking the word of God, hearing the
word of God, so that my faith, when things
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come, is strong. But then also start to figure
out where you need to be lining up your
life with the Word of God. Because in some
cases, before you ever need a miracle, there's probably
some natural, some basic things that if you just
obey, God can help you to avoid that miracle
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that you may need down the line. You can
live in a place of. You can live in
the presence of God pretty well through obedience and
things like that. Not that we're gonna obey perfectly
at all times, because we don't, which is why
we need Jesus. But there is. You can avoid
a lot of pitfalls by being in the Word,
being sensitive to the Holy Spirit, and even when
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it don't seem right, obey. Little stuff like, there's
times when. And this is another learn from my
mother type of thing. But one of the things
that she gave us early was, look, the Holy
Spirit lives in you. Follow your inner man. If
inside you, son, you feel like you should stop,
stop. That's God trying to save your life. So
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those words and that training has really. I've seen
many, many times in my life where I could
be in the midst of foolishness. I can be
doing good. And there's something inside like, yeah, don't
do that today. Something as simple as there was
a time, and I have no idea what happened
or if anything happened. But me and Tracy was
about to go to Menards, and I was like,
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something just don't feel right about Menards. And literally,
we're at the door, and I'm like, wife, I
don't know what's going on, but I just don't.
I don't know. Something don't feel right about Menards
now. I have no clue. Nothing ever happened. There
was no shooting at Menards.
Yeah.
But hour later, I felt good about Menards and
we went to Menards. Was that the Holy Spirit
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helping me avoid something? I think so. I could
have just been paranoid. I don't know. I'm not
normally paranoid, but. But I would rather. I would
rather err in thinking the Lord told me not
to do something than error in going through a
stop sign. So part of it is being practical
and trying to hear God. But start with the
little Stuff, it ain't always gotta be a huge
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deal to hear God like start obeying what his
Word says. Now the stuff that's clear written down,
obey that. And then as the Holy Spirit leads
and guides in little stuff, because it can be
very little stuff, practice that. And then when you
get to those situations where it's a big deal,
you've already been acknowledging God. You know, Brent, say
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this is my favorite verse, but Proverbs 3, which
talks about, in all your ways, acknowledge him and
he shall direct the path. It starts with, trust
in the Lord with all your heart. But that's
so real and that is hard to do. But
man, if we could just simply, in all the
little things we do throughout the day, be acknowledging
God and he shall direct your path. It's going
to be times where you need direction. You have
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no clue, you need. And the more you acknowledge
God, the more you're going to be in tune
with that. So I would say start there, start
with the word, start with acknowledging God and everything
you do.
Yeah, I agree. And then to add on to
what you were saying, I think even just on
that path, like he will tell you what that
very next step is to take. And sometimes it
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is just remembering what he said. So whether it's
Bible or whatever, if it's something personal that he
told you. So I'll give a very recent example
for me. So me and my husband are buying
a house. And so I know the Lord, he
was just saying, like, and naturally I am a
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risk averse person.
Like, I think about all of the things that
could come with it. Like, okay, well, like what
can happen if I make this decision? And so
we found a house that we love and the
lender and some of the HOA stuff, like it
was going crazy.
I just, I don't know. And so I was
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very like, okay, no, actually we're going to pass
on this because I just don't think this is
the right thing based on all of the risks
that they were bringing up. And so I knew
that when I came to church, actually, was it
last week? It was either last week or the
week before. I knew that in worship the Lord
was just like, listen, I got you. Just keep
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going. Like, you can't back out because I already
told you at the beginning of the year you
were going to buy a house by the end
of this year. I already told you that it's
time when you started the process, so don't back
out now. And I'm going to provide everything you
need. So I walked out of church, like, okay
Lord, like you gonna do it? And so things
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started happening. So we are on our way to
being cleared to clothes. But now of course you
got to spend a lot of money with it.
And so I'm like, okay Lord, like, we got
this, we got that, you know, whatever. And so
again he was just like, hey, you don't have
to big borrow a steel for nothing. I'm going
to bring you. Just let me do it. And
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so I ended up getting a inquiry for a
big event for last week. Actually I just completed
on Friday. And so it sounded small at first
and I'm like, oh well, maybe I can do
it.
Like, you know, it's just quick and easy and
I love the person. So I wanted to do
it. But then the 100 people event turned into
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a 400 person event and I was like, how
do you want me to plan a 400 person
event in a week? And I started panicking. And
I was talking to Tiffany, she was in the
office, she's like, well, I can help you, you,
but like, I think you just need to pray
about what the Lord would want you to do.
And so I started to pray about it. And
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then I got on the phone with my mom,
who is also my business partner in my wedding
and events business.
And so I was like, mom, I'm just so
stressed out. And she was like, hey, have you
thought about if this contract is more money for
your closing? Like, did you look at the dollar
amount of like what you're actually about to get?
And I'm like, huh? I did not think about
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that at all. And she was like, well, you
did say he told you this. And so I'm
like, okay. And so I had so much peace
about it where I was freaking out. It was
just that small reminder of like, he just told
me he was going to take care of it
where I didn't have to do anything. It was
just like a, okay, I'm going to give you
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this opportunity. All you got to do is take
it and you show up and you do it
like I've given you the gifts to do.
And so I took it. The money was nice
and we accomplished it. Was it a long day?
Yes, but in the grand scheme of things, it
was easier than had I been planning for months.
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It was just we already had the materials that
I needed to complete it. It was beautiful. The
client enjoyed it and it's done and I have
that money to go to closing with. And so
I think just talking faith, it's that knowing that
he's going to do what he said. Like, even
if it doesn't feel like it, he's going to
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do what he said.
There is probably somewhere you need to go back
and remind yourself of what he said, whether it's
biblical or personal, of what he said to you.
Having people around you to even hold you accountable
to that. Right. When you're freaking out or when
you're having a faith crisis and then just showing
up the way he told you to. And I
think those are the practical.
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And I love it because it started with you
saying, I feel like the Lord told me that
was the start of it. And that's where the
faith comes from. That's where it's like, okay, what
am I going to stand on through this? You
have to remind yourself of what he told you.
And we so special sometimes that we lose focus
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of what you knew in your heart, what God
told you.
Yeah.
So really, you should stick with that. But, man,
stuff come up and you kind of forget you
ain't thinking about it. You start to stress out
when, all in all, you believe. Do you believe
that if God told you something, he'll do it?
Oh, yeah, 100%, I believe it. But in the
battle, it's easy to not focus on that and
be focusing on something else. And the key is
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just getting your focus back to God's word and
everything, whether it's a word like this, whether it's
the Bible, whatever it may be. Refocus your thoughts
and your processes back to, what did God say?
Yeah, yeah. And Pastor Chris mentioned that yesterday in
the message, talking about, like, the actual fight. Right.
So, like, I think for me, I was expecting,
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like, one of those miracles, like somebody about to
drop $10,000 in my account, and I'm gonna just
get one of those type of miracles because, you
know, you. You see it happening to people and
you want it to happen to you naturally. And
so it's like, okay, Lord. Well, I've never had
that type of miracle, so maybe you're gonna do
something like that. And I didn't want it to
be a working m. I didn't want. I didn't
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want to have to do.
The work I did.
And so I told my mom that, and she
was like, yeah, but you know that that's not
typically how the Lord operates with you. He gives
you the opportunity and he gives you a chance
to take it. And so, like, maybe it's more
of that. And once I looked at it, it's
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like, oh, that actually makes sense for where I
am. In the relationship and the talents and skills
he's given me. So it was just like, okay.
I wanted the fight to look a little different,
but actually, it was the one that I needed.
But the growth is such in that process, it
ain't in. He dropped it in there, which. That's
great, too. Go on, Drop a couple things.
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Lord.
But truly, through the process of. That is where
you grew.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like. And I'm gonna let you
talk.
Ty'eisha. You guys are the guest.
It made me think about. And I use a
lot of sports references, but it made me think
about running a marathon. People be like, man, how
can you run 26.2 miles? Well, for the last
24 weeks, I've been building up one mile at
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a time. So by time, you get to race
day. That day is fun. That's the easy day.
Running in the woods for nothing, without a crowd
for 20 miles, that's the hard part. So. But
that's where you learn, and that's where you grow,
and that's where you get a love for things.
Like, I appreciate that more than the races. I
appreciate the training, the process of going through it
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more than the reward and the medal at the
end. That's just the icing on the cake. But
realistically, the journey is what really is. That's what
you gonna remember. You know what I mean? So.
Yeah.
And it builds your faith for the next journey.
Absolutely, it does.
Absolutely.
I mean, this. It's very encouraging. And I'm just
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sitting over here thinking, like, man, it kind of
reminds me of, like, how we say we love
God when everything's going well, but what keeps standing
out to me is that word battle. I remember
I had a dream recently where I was. You
know, I keep having a dream about this entity,
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and not to get super spiritual, but I keep
having a dream of, like, a witch. Like, not
to get super spiritual. And every dream leads to
one dream. But the last dream I had about
this thing was this witch was getting prayed for,
and I was sitting in the back seat. Not
the backseat, the back row. I was like, oh,
I'm about to pray for this. So I stood
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up with all this confidence, and I was kneeling
down to pray, and the witch jumped up and
was like, start fighting me, right? And I was
getting hit. I was getting some licks in. But.
So we'll just call this witch the enemy. The
enemy was, like, popped up and started fighting me
back. And I'm literally in this fight with this
enemy, right? And the dream ended, like, that, like,
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I was getting bruised, I was getting some licks
in, but I was getting toe up, too. And
I woke up like, God, what type of dream
is that?
He probably said, what was you watching last night?
It wasn't me. No.
But no, I was like, just what? Where's the
victory? Like, I wanted to wake up with the
victory, like, knowing that I won that fight, you
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know, and you laughing at my dream. But one
thing that he said to me was, like, you
was in the fight. You didn't get out the
fight. You stay in the fight. And so when
I heard, and we can kind of conclude with
this, at the end of each segment, I like
to say, like, what's the big takeaway from the
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message? And I'll start this time. I've learned my
lesson in the past. Typically, I start last. Somebody
else steals my point. It's always Pastor Brent who
steals my point. Let's just keep it real. But
just saying, like, you hearing the word battle, hearing
the word stay in the fight, that's something that
Mama Chris said yesterday. And for me, it was
the. The sound reassounding theme of stay in the
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fight. And fight doesn't mean, like, physical fight, because
we are not fighting people. We're fighting spirits and
principalities, like the word of God says. So for
me, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna stay in this
fight. But how does this look? This looks like
me staying in my words, stand on my knees.
Because when you're praying, I don't know about you,
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you get tired of praying sometimes about to say,
like, God prayed about this for two years. Like,
I'm tired. You know, we start getting weary.
Yeah.
But what I keep hearing is stay in the
fight.
Yeah.
Let God be Jehovah. Nisi, do your part by
staying in the fight, but just know this battle
is not gonna be won by you, which is
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prob. Why I didn't see victory in the dream.
It's going to be won by Jesus. And so
what was the a takeaway from you guys?
I would say keep your hands lifted. I think,
again, back to that beautiful picture of Moses. Like,
he had those hands lifted up, and when he
couldn't anymore, somebody came and held them up for
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him. And so it's that keeping your hands lifted
and knowing when to add people in to, like,
help you keep them up. So that's my favorite.
That's good.
As you was talking about standing a fight, and
maybe this is just me always going my own
direction, but I was just thinking about at some
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point, though, you Gotta cast that care to God.
Only he knows when, but you know, but at
some point, stay in the fight. Stay in the
fight, stay in the fight. But at some point,
man, I just cast it. I just cast it
on the Lord. I just go to that part
of the world. My fight is to cast it
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on you. Yeah, because you said you're gonna fight
the battle for me. So that's kind of, to
me, where the fight always ends up. It ends
up at me agreeing with God's word about it.
Because he already said we got the victory. So
the fight a lot of times to me is
I'm a fight. How am I going to fight
this fear and this doubt and this unbelief? With
the Word, which is going to give me confidence
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in God's word and it's going to help me
to read out some of this unbelief. Because that's
a lot of times what you're fighting. The devil
just throw lies.
Yeah, that's good.
He's already a defeated foe. So the fighters don't
buy them lies. He's already lost. So now I
have to fight to put my eyes on the
word of God, which says that I have the
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victory, which says that God cares for me and
that I need to be casting my care onto
him. Like it says all of these things. And
to me, our fight is to acknowledge it, see
it, put it in front of us, and then
obey the steps that God gives us. So yes,
stay in the fight. But the fight is so
much. We know the scripture about it not being
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flesh and blood. Well, sometimes it's our flesh and
blood or our brain other than other people's flesh
and blood. It's a spirit. We have to get
out the way and let God be God and
say, lord, I'm gonna agree with this word. Cause
that's where it's at. Agree with God. If we
could get ourself into like agreement and belief. Not
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just I agree cause I said it, but I
actually believe this. And it is what it is.
Lord, I'm gonna just believe what you say. We
have to get ourselves to that point because we
drive ourselves crazy and be weary and all the
rest of the stuff we said, trying to do
it in our own strength.
Yeah, we can't. No, for sure. And that is
something that Pastor Chris said yesterday. Doing it in
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our own strength. I think for me, staying in
a fight was not getting weary and just saying,
skip it. I'm going to respond out of flesh.
I'm going to not read the Bible. I'm not
going to pray about this no more. Because I
could get to a point real fast, be like,
I don't care. You know what I mean? So
for me, standing in the fight, it's like not
giving into my flesh, but it can be taken
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either way. Like, standing in a fight where I'm
gonna keep fighting this.
And that's really saying the same thing. Cause at
the end of the day, standing the word and
keeping walking in the spirit is not giving in
to the lust of the flesh. We would love
to tap out and quit. You know what I
mean? So it's the same thing. It's just. I'm
seeing it. I'm looking at it two times.
When these battles happen, we ain't coming out with
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lashes and hair extensions. Like, these battles be tough.
Yeah. When we think this is too much.
I'm never coming out a fight with lashes nor
hair extensions neither. Or even hair, for that matter.
I mean, I'm just saying, like, we think of
a fight, it's not a little cute, like, tap
fight like the enemy. He tried to take us
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out. And these fights be intense.
But he can't take you out.
He can't take you out, Ty'esha.
He can't.
I feel like this is a pastor. He is
speaking directly.
He can't take you out.
You're right. You're right.
But he's defeated.
He is.
You do have to build endurance. Like how you
talked about, like, with the running thing. And I
do, like, clearly remember the Lord telling me earlier
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in the year, I was going through something. I'm
like, man, you. You see me with my faith.
You see me doing. He was like, it's not
a faith issue. It's an endurance issue. And so
I'm like, oh, that's good. Okay. Like, so I
need to build up my endurance. And then I
start talking to him, like, what does that actually
mean for me to endure? It's like. And for
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me, again, going back to that injustice thing, like,
that just bur burns my. So he's just like.
It's the ability to, like, see something and immediately
pray about it instead of getting mad about it.
It's the ability to keep going even though nothing
is happening and you don't see it happening, but
knowing that I'm gonna do something about it in
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the end, whether it's earth side or heaven's side,
it's gonna get addressed whether you wanted to or
not. And so, like, that part has been a
saving grace, I would say, in terms of knowing
how to endure. So it's not. It may not
be even for you staying in the fight. It
might just be that endurance of like. But how
to endure this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good.
That's good. That's really good. So earlier, Taisha, you
was talking about just your year and this might
be me. I might be going off on a
tangent again.
He's mastering.
I was thinking about. No, I was, I was
thinking about. Well, I know. Okay, so. So one
thing that I do know, David's mom passed.
Yes.
So her mother in law passed and that's huge.
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Yeah, yeah.
That's just last month. Not even.
Yeah, yeah. And I was thinking about the different
tragedies and different things that my family has experienced
and like observing those that stick with God and
those that don't and seeing them on the other
side of these tragedies and seeing the clear difference
in how this particular family came out of the
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tragedy versus the part of the family that don't
trust in God and that don't know God. They
might say they do, but they're not living that
on a day to day basis. And realistically, even
those type of fights, that's something that there is
another side for you that's different than somebody that
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don't know Jesus. So in the same way that
you got to fight other battles, you have to
fight the battles that come with loss. You know
what I mean? But you got to let God
lead you through that stuff, knowing that on the
end of it, where his word talks about all
things work together for the good, that don't mean
he killed your, your mother in law, but what
it means is you can be better in the
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end if you stick to God. You know what
I mean? If you stick to God, he'll be
able to use your hurt, he'll be able to
use your experiences for good, for somebody else. And
I see that. It's so ironic to me that
I actually do funerals and things like that because
of the massive amount of funerals and tragedies that
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my family has seen. And me sitting there watching
this stuff over the years, I never had any
clue that God would be using those experiences for
good. You know what I mean? But I saw
that in this season at the church where it's
been so much loss and in the middle of
that, having to be one of the leaders of
the church and go through that stuff. And it's
so funny because I don't know why everything ended
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up with my mother, but every funeral I leave,
I have to call my mother for her to
now pass to me and give me some therapy.
But it goes back to seeing it like pointing
out the fact that we've been through this stuff.
That's why God is able to let you know
that's how you're able to do this. And I
wasn't looking at it that way. I was just
a child going through the stuff or even an
adult going through the stuff. But so it's even
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those battles, you know what I mean? Because she
was just talking about how what I heard from
you talking about the endurance was basically talking about
it made me think of having a healthy ness
through the fight. Yes, we know that concept when
it comes to grieving, that there's a, yeah, it's
gonna hurt, but there's a healthy way to get
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through it where you don't end up in depression
or relying on drugs and different things like that.
So when all these battles, there's a healthy way
that it can be done, but it can only
be done healthily with God, you know what I
mean? And relying on him. So that's just, I
mean that's my encouragement to everybody is whatever fight
you going through, man, it's real relying on God.
And yes, he will, he will grow you in
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the middle of stuff if you will let him.
If not, he'll let you go be depressed because
we have free will. But if you allow him
to heal you and allow him to walk you
through stuff, you'll be better on the other side
of it and he'll work that thing for good
for you.
That was good.
And you know what, like something that has comforted
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me in this season, prayers don't die. And so
like when you are going through battles, right, that
prayer that you prayed six months ago or a
year ago, that did not die, that did not
fall on death ears. And so like you might
not have seen it in the previous battle, but
the Lord can do it in this battle. And
like those prayers, even the prayers of your mother
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in law or people who have prayed for you
all this time, they don't die. And so like
you will continue to see answered prayers in the
midst of battles. And so that's also some encouragement
as well. So I'm sorry.
Well thank you guys for building me up. This
is what we do here on between sermons. You
know, we encourage one another. But I do pray
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as we end that you found encouragement in this
conversation. I mean we talked a lot about this
sermon today about God Jehovah, Nisi being our banner.
But we do pray that in this season you
can cling to that word. And I do encourage
you to go back and listen to that message,
write down those Bible verses, meditate on them, and
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take this conversation with you into those fights, knowing
that you have people praying for you, knowing that
God is not going to leave you or forsake
you, and just knowing that you can get through
this season no matter what battle you're going through.
So we love you here on Between Sermons at
coc. We love you. We are praying for you
and share this video if it encouraged you.
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Yes, I know you just closed, but can I
pray?
Yes.
I'm sorry I raised my hand, but we can't
end this without prayer. I don't know how y'all
normally do it, but the pastor ain't here today
now. So, Father, I just thank. Thank you. I
thank you for everybody that's just listening to this
podcast. And I just pray that it's something in
here that you can use to help somebody move
through the battle that they're in. It's something in
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here that you can use to encourage, to build
up just to give people hope on the other
side of the stuff that they're going through. Father.
So I just pray that you just meet each
person where they are and you just comfort them,
lead them, guide them, and help them to agree
with your word, even in the midst of the
valley, to agree with the goodness and the truth
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of your word and that you just teach each
person how to walk more in sync and more
in flow with your written word and with the
Holy Spirit that lives in them. And if they
don't know you, Father God, hey, help them to
come to know you. Tell them to just ask
you in, because that's what your word says. Ask
and they shall receive. So, Father God, I just
thank you for that right now. In the name
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of Jesus, us. Amen.
Amen.
Amen. Now that's how you close. Amen. Well, we
will see you next week on another episode of
Between Sermons.
Amen.
Amen. Okay.
4, 3, 2.
Good afternoon and welcome to another episode of Between
Sermons. My name is Taisha Beasley, and typically I'm
the co host, but today we have Pastor Brandt,
who is the host. He is out, and I
am joined here with two special guests. But before
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we dive into that, I just want to apologize
if you were with us maybe at the top
of 12. We had a little bit of technical
difficulties, but we are back ready to continue the
conversation. So again, I want to introduce my amazing
guest for the show. Let's go with Pastor Asa.
Thank you so much for being with us today.
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How are you?
I'm awesome. No problem.
Thanks for inviting me. What was that look for?
I'm awesome. I didn't know when you was gonna
stop talking. I was like. It was like double
Dutch. I was ready to jump in, but.
I wasn't sure what you know about double Dutch.
I know all about it, but anyway, I'm Asa.
Yes. Pastor Asa, we're so happy to have you
here. I know you are a longtime guest of
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Between Sermons, so it's always a pleasure. Long time
guest, like you were here in the previous season.
I was in the beginning. There was Asa, there
was Ash on the podcast.
We're always happy to have you here and have
you a part of this conversation. And we are
also joined by my amazing sister, Ari. How are
you?
I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.
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You look amazing.
Thank you. So do you.
Yes, thank you. So I'm happy we have this
little girl thing going on. We'll just let Pastor
Asa fill in the gaps there.
Yes.
So we might cry, we might get emotional, but
you gonna realize I'm gonna cry it too.
So, I mean, don't think y'all gonna cry without
me. I'm down for some crying.
Especially about the Lord. He's so good. Like, how
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can you not cry?
I don't know. He is good.
He is so good.
My last cry was a Holy Spirit inspired cry,
I think, unless I was just being emotional, but
I think it was more of a emotion toward
Jesus. Don't ask me what that was about.
I was gonna.
We good.
We're very open. We try to be very open
on this show. So, no, we'll let you sit
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with that moment, but I really wanna dive into
the conversation, kind of pick back up. We were
in some good discussion. So to the best of
our ability, we're gonna try to jump back into
that conversation. Yesterday, we had heard a great message
from Mama Chris, as some of us know her
by, and Pastor Chris as someone and. And the
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whole thing was she opened with that saying, you
know, some of you guys know me as Mama
Chris. Some of you know me as PC Some
of you know me as Pastor Chris. Your name
gives is a reflection of your relationship. And so,
diving back into the conversation about Jehovah Nisi, let's
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just start there. What does that mean for you,
Pastor Asa?
Jehovah Nisi. Jehovah Nisi. I almost forgot for a
second. I say my provider. That's Jehovah Jireh, Jehovah
Nisi. So the God that fights my battles, what
does that mean to me? I would say that
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my experience with Jehovah Nisi has brought me to
a place where I know that the best thing
for my life is to allow him to actually
fight my battles. So that's my relationship and what
it means to me.
That's good.
All right, what about you, Sister H. Because I
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know I have a fighter, a. A God who
is a fighter. My fight looks different as I
mature. So, yeah, that's good.
So if you hadn't had an opportunity to catch
that sermon, I just encourage you to go rewatch
the message from Pastor Chris yesterday. It talked about
Jehovah n as part of the name dropping series
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and how he is our banner, he is our
protector, he does vindicate us. Like, I. I may
just be adding words to this, and you can
correct me, Pastor Asa, but I see him as
all of those things. And I think we were
discussing before there was a little break how depending
on the season you're in, how that name, you
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rely on it and how it shows up for
you. So, I mean, I guess in this particular
season, hearing the message, what was something that really
stood out to you and that really, like, impacted
you or empowered you?
Yeah, I think my fight this season is fighting
prayer. Like, that's just it. I'm not doing anything
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outside of that. And of course, that applies to
every season. But I think sometimes he's calling you
to be a little more active in some areas
versus just the prayer part. And so I think
right now he is calling me to pray and
release, and that is where I am. I think
it's been just really refreshing to know that, like,
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hey, I don't have to do anything else but
just come to you, sit at your feet, lay
my burdens down, and that you'll. You'll do with
it what you need to do. And, like, I
don't have to worry about anything else. So that's
my fight this season.
Yeah, that's good. Now I Know, Pastor Issa, you
reflected a little bit on your childhood before we
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got interrupted it. Do you feel like it's the
same for you? It just carries that reflection from
seeing your mom, how she handled battles in the
past, like, seeing her just stand and be still
and trust God. Do you feel like that is
kind of, like, translated into, like, who you are
today or where you are today?
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Yeah, I would say so. It's funny. Let me
go back to what Ari was saying, and just
being in a season of where she just feel
like she need to be taking everything to prayer,
I think that's huge. And how else are you
going to let God fight your battles? What I've
learned over the course of my life and as
we mature, as you said, is that even when
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there's enemies or somebody you might be mad at
or whatever the case may be, the Bible tells
us to pray for our enemies. And I think
it tells us that because it's really hard to
truly pray for somebody and stay mad or the
Holy Spirit not point out to you that Christ
died for you. So why are you acting this
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way towards somebody else? So a big part of
when I'm in a battle is really. That is
really trying to see that person as somebody that
Christ died for. And that's what's been helpful to
me. Back to my mom. We grew up in
a lot of situations where without prayer, we was
going to be out of luck. It was one
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particular time that I can think about where we
came home and our stuff was out on the
curb, and for a kid to come home and
you're evicted, but to not have, like, any. I
have no, like, trauma. I have no, like, hard
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feelings or weirdness from that. Because the. What I
remember from those few times that that was the
case was my mother staying firm in the word
of God and in prayer. And then like, hey,
the Lord got us. It'll be okay. And in
each of those situations, by the end of the
day, we had somewhere to live. And the funny
part is, each time I feel like it got
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better. It was like, man, I didn't miss.
That old spot at all.
It was a major upgrade when in the morning,
our stuff was sold. So I got to experience
a lot of battle fighting as. As I grew
up. And I knew who was fighting him because
it wasn't nothing to do but watch my mother
pray and stay strong in the Lord and tell
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us to do the same.
Wow. I mean, that's amazing. I can't even imagine,
like, how many siblings did you have?
So my Mother has three boys. I do have
another brother and sister, but I've grown up with.
But, yeah, I'm the youngest of three boys. And,
man, some of the stories, I think my brother
might be a little more scarred. He's older. But
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some of the stories that get told, I'm like,
hell, I should be screwed up, but I'm okay.
Jesus.
Look at God. Look at Jesus.
Yeah, man. Absolutely.
Yeah. Because I was just thinking. I couldn't imagine,
like, just thinking about some trials and things that
I'm facing now. Just not being able to provide
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for my son or my sons, in your mother's
case, and still standing strong and not letting that
bring her down like that speaks a lot to
just where she was in her relationship to Christ
and how she really stood on him. And I
don't know about you, I feel like 20, 24
ain't giving us no wiggle room. It's like, you
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either gonna learn how to stand on me or
you just gonna fall. Like, I mean, I don't
know if that's just my own personal struggles. Just
being completely honest, I feel like, of course we
experience God's grace, but I feel like there's some
lessons he want us to learn very quickly. And
I'm not really sure why that pressure is there,
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but just hearing the message yesterday reminded me that
a lot of the things that I am facing,
I need to really submit it to God. Because
me trying to take it into my own hands
and control it, it's just provide. It's just creating
more problems, even for myself. Like, I just found
out I had high blood pressure. I mean, through
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the roof. And God is. I feel like that
was a sign. Like, girl, either you're gonna submit
to me, lay this stuff down, or it's gonna
take you out. Literally.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, I mean, how was there the sermon? Did
it provide, like, this insight for you? Like, I
need to change some things personally or something? I
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want to work on, you know.
What I am in such a season of, like,
surrender that, like, it was just a reminder of
what the Lord has already been impressing on me.
I think that sometimes we forget, even as believers,
even as mature believers and, you know, dealing with
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warfare throughout our lives, like, warfare takes strategies. So
what is the strategy that you're actually using? Are
you using your emotion to battle? Well, you're probably
going to lose that. That war or that fight
with just emotion alone. Okay, so what does this
actually look like? And so I think it was
just a reminder of, like, okay, Lord, what's the
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Strategy for this season. Okay. Is it like a
fight? Like, do I need to be, you know,
up at night and using my. My scripture and
calling it out and like, fighting against, like, you
know, principalities? Or is it just the, hey, let
me relax and let me pray and let me,
you know, like, give it to the Lord and
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just rest in that? Or is it something else?
Like, I don't know. But I think that it
does require strategy, so. Yeah, that's a reminder.
Yeah. What was the question? I was listening to
Ari. That was so good, Ari. I forgot the
question. She looked at me and I'm like, is
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it my turn?
Right? No, I was just saying in real time.
What did that sermon speak to you?
Well, based on the fact that I was in
and out of service yesterday, the parts. That one
part that did catch me, I came in. It's
so funny because I came in from being in
other areas and I sat down in the empty
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seat. And she was talking about the part where
they was lifting up Moses hands. And within that,
she was talking about the eight people that constantly
praise for her. And I know that I'm sure
she's talking about her pit crew.
Yeah.
Her pastor intercessor group team. Yeah.
I don't have a pit crew. Like, I need.
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Why is it just pastors that got a pit
crew?
I feel like we all need.
Yeah. So in these two years where I've been
a pastor here at CLC and I got a
pit crew, and it's so funny, cause they like
to brag on themselves. I gotta tell em that
that ain't love. Love talks about how we don't
boast. But anyway. But my pit crew leader was
just talking about, man, we the best pit crew,
man. We keep you lifted up. We always friends.
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So he literally, every Wednesday morning, he sends me
a message, hey, you got any updates on your
prayer request? I send it. He sends it out
to the group and they're praying. But I would
say during this time where I've been a pastor,
yesterday when she said that, I saw that, I
was like, yeah. These battles that we've had, these
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two years, I'm well aware that a lot of
the answers that I've gotten to be able to
talk to somebody or the way situations have turned
out, a huge part of that is those eight
people, four couples that's praying for me and my
wife and my family. So, yes, I agree with
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you. Everybody should have a pit crew. Everybody should
have a crew of people.
That'S praying for them.
I think we do, though.
Who you got a crew. I mean, your own
personal.
Yes.
Okay.
So, yeah, I think the relationship part of life,
that is where you build your pit crew. Like,
I'm not going through anything alone because I know
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I got my mama, my auntie, my best friends,
my church people, whoever, praying for me, so I'm
always covered. And so I think we do. It's
just that we don't utilize it sometimes either.
The way that we should.
Yeah, the way that we should.
Yeah. And we don't utilize it in a. I
would say with my crew, it's more personal that
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I would get with just random people. Hey, pray
for me. I mean, that's the idea, is you
gotta get somebody you trust that could. You know,
that you can tell personal things to. That's gonna
lift you and your family up in prayer and
not go tell it from the mountain.
Absolutely.
Because I was sitting here thinking, like, I definitely
have people friends that I can text and be
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like, hey, keep this lifted. But do I have
that person I could just be very specific with
and be like, girl, da, da, da, da, da.
I need you to pray for this. I don't.
I don't know. I think I do. I think
I just haven't utilized it to get very specific
and pray about it and for air, and I
shut down. Like, I'm learning that about myself, too.
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Like, when I'm in, like, crisis mode, like, baby,
I'll isolate myself. Yeah. And I know that's not
healthy, so I think I'm. I'm a take that
nugget and start leaning into my pick. I mean,
we can't call it.
You got to figure out a name.
The Lit Crew, The Intercessors.
It's a good time to figure that out after
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the podcast. But, Ari, it's funny because you actually.
When you said that, I'm like, yeah, that's so
true. So I said I wasn't telling stories today,
but I got another question.
Look at the Holy Spirit.
So when my daughter, who is now 14. What
is Ava? 14? When she was born, she was
born, everything looked cool, seemed normal, but they wouldn't
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bring her to the room. And after a while,
it's like, okay, what's going on? What's going on?
So turns out that her lungs wasn't fully developed.
And so it went from that to. It went
pretty bad at about three days. Three days into
that, the doctors told us, and we hadn't. She's
been in the incubator and on breathing stuff for
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three days. The doctors told us. All right, well,
We've done all we can do.
Oh, my gosh.
She's too sick to send to the children's hospital.
So our advice to y'all would be just spend
as much time as y'all can with her. I'm
like, oh, alrighty then. So I went from that
conversation. I had a little meltdown in, like, the
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stairwell real quick. And then I called my mama
and my mother's. I come across this email now
that my mother sent out that day to her
pit crew. It wasn't her pit crew. It was
her crew of people that pray. And it was
like, hey, this is the situation. We need to
pray that Ava's lungs develop. And she sent the
email to all her praying friends. And seven days
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later, day 10 of Ava's life. We're watching her
get better and better, and some of the machines
start to get pulled off. And day 10, they
called us in and said, well, y'all can take
her home today. And my wife, being the nurse
that she is, she asking all type of question.
What does that mean? Does it mean this. Does
it mean that they, like, y'all can take her
home and act like none of this never happened?
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Her lungs are perfectly fine. Treat her as a
normal child.
Wow.
And it was because of. I know it was
because of my mother's pit crew. You know what
I mean? Her crew of people that she was
able to reach out to and say, hey, let's
pray. And they lifted that up in prayer and
they let the Lord fight that battle. And in
that moment, I was acting like I didn't know
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Jesus. That's the sad part about it. But I
literally was. I was in a space, in a
space of time where I was kind of running
from God, but he was still willing to fight
my battle. So that's why the last time I
cried was because God is that good. He is
that good to where if you just allow him
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in and allow him to be God in your
life, it'll be a real relationship that you would
have with God. That only comes through experience. And
that's a thing. So, yeah.
Yeah, that is a real thing. And. And, man,
that's an amazing testimony. And I. But what. What.
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What's coming to my mind is what do we
do when we don't see those testimonies? What do
we do when we are praying or we're in
the middle of something and it doesn't seem like
God is answering and he's responding?
Yeah.
How does relying on God as Jehovah Nisi. Like,
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how does that look in those.
Moments, for me, I think it looks at continuing
to look at His Word and know that that's
the truth. That's the final answer. Because when I'm
in battles like that, stand in the word, looking
at the word, saying what His Word says, continuing
in prayer, and then reflecting on those times where
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you've seen God's answers, where you've seen answered prayer.
A lot of it to me is reflecting and
looking back on, like, I've seen this before, so
I'm going to stand strong. Not that you got
to have experiences, but, Lord, experience helps in those
moments and being able to literally just stay there,
but also knowing that if it don't go the
way I wanted it to go, God is still
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good. He's still on the throne. Things happen that
I might not understand, but he's still good. But
in those moments, I usually go until I come
to a place of rest. Because to me, in
prayer, it's usually a pray, pray, pray, pray, pray.
And then at some point, I feel like I
hear the Lord say, you've cast that care on
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me. Now relax, rest. And that's kind of, I
think, the place that we have to get to
in prayer, pray. But he'll give you some rest
in there at some point, and it's our job
to take that rest.
Yeah, I think for me, when I don't see
something coming to pass, it's like you said, like,
he hasn't failed me yet. So I know he's
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gonna do something. Whether it looks like what I
want him to, you know, to do or something
different, I know that the outcome is going to
be for my good. So personally, I like to
turn my focus to peace, joy, and other things
that can keep me strong while I'm waiting on
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him to finish fighting the battle. Because I think
a lot of times, like when you are in
battle, you start to forget all of the other
things that you need to have in order to
have a victory. Right. Like, you don't want to
have a victory and then be so beat down,
worn out that, like, you can't even enjoy what
God did for you. Which it does happen, and
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it happens. Right? So I think it's important to
like, and. And I'm a believer in nursing your
wounds for sure. Like, sometimes we don't do a
good job of, like, making sure, hey, that hurt
me. That really, you know, did something to me.
So nurse the wounds, but then turn your focus
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to something else that you also need. So then
when the victory is won, then it can be
a well rounded, like celebration of like man. I
maintain my peace, I maintain my joy, I maintain
my character, my integr, my sanity. All of those
things that make it just even more of a
victory.
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Yeah, no, those were good, good points. And, and
my, my standpoint on this show is always to
be the voice of the people.
Yes.
So I'm always going to ask questions to get
the conversation or like us really thinking about for
those who are not strong in their faith and
they're in a season where like, man, it's hard
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to really know or to get to know God
as Jehovah Nisi. And so I want us to
move into those practical ways. We can start applying
that to our lives. But one thing I've been
feeling for this season, one word is like fortify
our faith, Holy spirit. Because I feel like sometimes
these battles are long and sometimes you are asking
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God, where you at, homie? Not that I say
God is homie, but I talk to God very.
I talk to God very well. He know what
I'm talking about. Okay. And I'm just like. And
I just hear him say things like, be still,
know that I'm God. Or even when he's checking
me because in those battles we gotta get checked
too. So it's like a soft word, turns away
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harsh, you know? So it's like a soft answer,
turns away wrath. So it's like he's constantly speaking
to us and things of that nature. But I
do feel like there is seasons where the enemy
is coming specifically for your faith and your hope
in Christ. So what are some practical ways that
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we could really lean into? And Mama Chris kind
of pointed it out in her. Her points to
help us stay strong and really cling to him
as Jehovah Nisi. But what are some practical ways
that we could really cling to that and trust
him as the Lord, our banner in this season?
Yeah. So I think it starts with, so there's
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things you can do before you ever get to
the battle. So one analogy would be the boxer
don't show up to fight the battle and now
he need to go train. Let me go lift
some weights real quick. The fight about to start
in 30 minutes. So there's this preparation that needs
to be happening really at all times because battles
are going to continue to come. You know what
I mean? I don't mean there all the time,
but at some point, if you're alive, you're going
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to have another battle. So to me it starts
with, okay, I need to be building myself up
in the Word what does the Word say about
it? And how can I be building myself up
and building faith? The Bible tells us that faith
comes by the Word and the word of God.
So how can I be building faith? First of
all, so let me be looking at the word
of God, talking the word of God, hearing the
word of God, so that my faith, when things
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come, is strong. But then also start to figure
out where you need to be lining up your
life with the Word of God. Because in some
cases, before you ever need a miracle, there's probably
some natural, some basic things that if you just
obey, God can help you to avoid that miracle
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that you may need down the line. You can
live in a place of. You can live in
the presence of God pretty well through obedience and
things like that. Not that we're gonna obey perfectly
at all times, because we don't, which is why
we need Jesus. But there is. You can avoid
a lot of pitfalls by being in the Word,
being sensitive to the Holy Spirit, and even when
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it don't seem right, obey. Little stuff like, there's
times when. And this is another learn from my
mother type of thing. But one of the things
that she gave us early was, look, the Holy
Spirit lives in you. Follow your inner man. If
inside you, son, you feel like you should stop,
stop. That's God trying to save your life. So
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those words and that training has really. I've seen
many, many times in my life where I could
be in the midst of foolishness. I can be
doing good. And there's something inside like, yeah, don't
do that today. Something as simple as there was
a time, and I have no idea what happened
or if anything happened. But me and Tracy was
about to go to Menards, and I was like,
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something just don't feel right about Menards. And literally,
we're at the door, and I'm like, wife, I
don't know what's going on, but I just don't.
I don't know. Something don't feel right about Menards
now. I have no clue. Nothing ever happened. There
was no shooting at Menards.
Yeah.
But hour later, I felt good about Menards and
we went to Menards. Was that the Holy Spirit
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helping me avoid something? I think so. I could
have just been paranoid. I don't know. I'm not
normally paranoid, but. But I would rather. I would
rather err in thinking the Lord told me not
to do something than error in going through a
stop sign. So part of it is being practical
and trying to hear God. But start with the
little Stuff, it ain't always gotta be a huge
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deal to hear God like start obeying what his
Word says. Now the stuff that's clear written down,
obey that. And then as the Holy Spirit leads
and guides in little stuff, because it can be
very little stuff, practice that. And then when you
get to those situations where it's a big deal,
you've already been acknowledging God. You know, Brent, say
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this is my favorite verse, but Proverbs 3, which
talks about, in all your ways, acknowledge him and
he shall direct the path. It starts with, trust
in the Lord with all your heart. But that's
so real and that is hard to do. But
man, if we could just simply, in all the
little things we do throughout the day, be acknowledging
God and he shall direct your path. It's going
to be times where you need direction. You have
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no clue, you need. And the more you acknowledge
God, the more you're going to be in tune
with that. So I would say start there, start
with the word, start with acknowledging God and everything
you do.
Yeah, I agree. And then to add on to
what you were saying, I think even just on
that path, like he will tell you what that
very next step is to take. And sometimes it
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is just remembering what he said. So whether it's
Bible or whatever, if it's something personal that he
told you. So I'll give a very recent example
for me. So me and my husband are buying
a house. And so I know the Lord, he
was just saying, like, and naturally I am a
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risk averse person.
Like, I think about all of the things that
could come with it. Like, okay, well, like what
can happen if I make this decision? And so
we found a house that we love and the
lender and some of the HOA stuff, like it
was going crazy.
I just, I don't know. And so I was
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very like, okay, no, actually we're going to pass
on this because I just don't think this is
the right thing based on all of the risks
that they were bringing up. And so I knew
that when I came to church, actually, was it
last week? It was either last week or the
week before. I knew that in worship the Lord
was just like, listen, I got you. Just keep
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going. Like, you can't back out because I already
told you at the beginning of the year you
were going to buy a house by the end
of this year. I already told you that it's
time when you started the process, so don't back
out now. And I'm going to provide everything you
need. So I walked out of church, like, okay
Lord, like you gonna do it? And so things
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started happening. So we are on our way to
being cleared to clothes. But now of course you
got to spend a lot of money with it.
And so I'm like, okay Lord, like, we got
this, we got that, you know, whatever. And so
again he was just like, hey, you don't have
to big borrow a steel for nothing. I'm going
to bring you. Just let me do it. And
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so I ended up getting a inquiry for a
big event for last week. Actually I just completed
on Friday. And so it sounded small at first
and I'm like, oh well, maybe I can do
it.
Like, you know, it's just quick and easy and
I love the person. So I wanted to do
it. But then the 100 people event turned into
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a 400 person event and I was like, how
do you want me to plan a 400 person
event in a week? And I started panicking. And
I was talking to Tiffany, she was in the
office, she's like, well, I can help you, you,
but like, I think you just need to pray
about what the Lord would want you to do.
And so I started to pray about it. And
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then I got on the phone with my mom,
who is also my business partner in my wedding
and events business.
And so I was like, mom, I'm just so
stressed out. And she was like, hey, have you
thought about if this contract is more money for
your closing? Like, did you look at the dollar
amount of like what you're actually about to get?
And I'm like, huh? I did not think about
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that at all. And she was like, well, you
did say he told you this. And so I'm
like, okay. And so I had so much peace
about it where I was freaking out. It was
just that small reminder of like, he just told
me he was going to take care of it
where I didn't have to do anything. It was
just like a, okay, I'm going to give you
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this opportunity. All you got to do is take
it and you show up and you do it
like I've given you the gifts to do.
And so I took it. The money was nice
and we accomplished it. Was it a long day?
Yes, but in the grand scheme of things, it
was easier than had I been planning for months.
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It was just we already had the materials that
I needed to complete it. It was beautiful. The
client enjoyed it and it's done and I have
that money to go to closing with. And so
I think just talking faith, it's that knowing that
he's going to do what he said. Like, even
if it doesn't feel like it, he's going to
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do what he said.
There is probably somewhere you need to go back
and remind yourself of what he said, whether it's
biblical or personal, of what he said to you.
Having people around you to even hold you accountable
to that. Right. When you're freaking out or when
you're having a faith crisis and then just showing
up the way he told you to. And I
think those are the practical.
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And I love it because it started with you
saying, I feel like the Lord told me that
was the start of it. And that's where the
faith comes from. That's where it's like, okay, what
am I going to stand on through this? You
have to remind yourself of what he told you.
And we so special sometimes that we lose focus
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of what you knew in your heart, what God
told you.
Yeah.
So really, you should stick with that. But, man,
stuff come up and you kind of forget you
ain't thinking about it. You start to stress out
when, all in all, you believe. Do you believe
that if God told you something, he'll do it?
Oh, yeah, 100%, I believe it. But in the
battle, it's easy to not focus on that and
be focusing on something else. And the key is
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just getting your focus back to God's word and
everything, whether it's a word like this, whether it's
the Bible, whatever it may be. Refocus your thoughts
and your processes back to, what did God say?
Yeah, yeah. And Pastor Chris mentioned that yesterday in
the message, talking about, like, the actual fight. Right.
So, like, I think for me, I was expecting,
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like, one of those miracles, like somebody about to
drop $10,000 in my account, and I'm gonna just
get one of those type of miracles because, you
know, you. You see it happening to people and
you want it to happen to you naturally. And
so it's like, okay, Lord. Well, I've never had
that type of miracle, so maybe you're gonna do
something like that. And I didn't want it to
be a working m. I didn't want. I didn't
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want to have to do.
The work I did.
And so I told my mom that, and she
was like, yeah, but you know that that's not
typically how the Lord operates with you. He gives
you the opportunity and he gives you a chance
to take it. And so, like, maybe it's more
of that. And once I looked at it, it's
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like, oh, that actually makes sense for where I
am. In the relationship and the talents and skills
he's given me. So it was just like, okay.
I wanted the fight to look a little different,
but actually, it was the one that I needed.
But the growth is such in that process, it
ain't in. He dropped it in there, which. That's
great, too. Go on, Drop a couple things.
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Lord.
But truly, through the process of. That is where
you grew.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like. And I'm gonna let you
talk.
Ty'eisha. You guys are the guest.
It made me think about. And I use a
lot of sports references, but it made me think
about running a marathon. People be like, man, how
can you run 26.2 miles? Well, for the last
24 weeks, I've been building up one mile at
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a time. So by time, you get to race
day. That day is fun. That's the easy day.
Running in the woods for nothing, without a crowd
for 20 miles, that's the hard part. So. But
that's where you learn, and that's where you grow,
and that's where you get a love for things.
Like, I appreciate that more than the races. I
appreciate the training, the process of going through it
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more than the reward and the medal at the
end. That's just the icing on the cake. But
realistically, the journey is what really is. That's what
you gonna remember. You know what I mean? So.
Yeah.
And it builds your faith for the next journey.
Absolutely, it does.
Absolutely.
I mean, this. It's very encouraging. And I'm just
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sitting over here thinking, like, man, it kind of
reminds me of, like, how we say we love
God when everything's going well, but what keeps standing
out to me is that word battle. I remember
I had a dream recently where I was. You
know, I keep having a dream about this entity,
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and not to get super spiritual, but I keep
having a dream of, like, a witch. Like, not
to get super spiritual. And every dream leads to
one dream. But the last dream I had about
this thing was this witch was getting prayed for,
and I was sitting in the back seat. Not
the backseat, the back row. I was like, oh,
I'm about to pray for this. So I stood
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up with all this confidence, and I was kneeling
down to pray, and the witch jumped up and
was like, start fighting me, right? And I was
getting hit. I was getting some licks in. But.
So we'll just call this witch the enemy. The
enemy was, like, popped up and started fighting me
back. And I'm literally in this fight with this
enemy, right? And the dream ended, like, that, like,
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I was getting bruised, I was getting some licks
in, but I was getting toe up, too. And
I woke up like, God, what type of dream
is that?
He probably said, what was you watching last night?
It wasn't me. No.
But no, I was like, just what? Where's the
victory? Like, I wanted to wake up with the
victory, like, knowing that I won that fight, you
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know, and you laughing at my dream. But one
thing that he said to me was, like, you
was in the fight. You didn't get out the
fight. You stay in the fight. And so when
I heard, and we can kind of conclude with
this, at the end of each segment, I like
to say, like, what's the big takeaway from the
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message? And I'll start this time. I've learned my
lesson in the past. Typically, I start last. Somebody
else steals my point. It's always Pastor Brent who
steals my point. Let's just keep it real. But
just saying, like, you hearing the word battle, hearing
the word stay in the fight, that's something that
Mama Chris said yesterday. And for me, it was
the. The sound reassounding theme of stay in the
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fight. And fight doesn't mean, like, physical fight, because
we are not fighting people. We're fighting spirits and
principalities, like the word of God says. So for
me, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna stay in this
fight. But how does this look? This looks like
me staying in my words, stand on my knees.
Because when you're praying, I don't know about you,
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you get tired of praying sometimes about to say,
like, God prayed about this for two years. Like,
I'm tired. You know, we start getting weary.
Yeah.
But what I keep hearing is stay in the
fight.
Yeah.
Let God be Jehovah. Nisi, do your part by
staying in the fight, but just know this battle
is not gonna be won by you, which is
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prob. Why I didn't see victory in the dream.
It's going to be won by Jesus. And so
what was the a takeaway from you guys?
I would say keep your hands lifted. I think,
again, back to that beautiful picture of Moses. Like,
he had those hands lifted up, and when he
couldn't anymore, somebody came and held them up for
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him. And so it's that keeping your hands lifted
and knowing when to add people in to, like,
help you keep them up. So that's my favorite.
That's good.
As you was talking about standing a fight, and
maybe this is just me always going my own
direction, but I was just thinking about at some
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point, though, you Gotta cast that care to God.
Only he knows when, but you know, but at
some point, stay in the fight. Stay in the
fight, stay in the fight. But at some point,
man, I just cast it. I just cast it
on the Lord. I just go to that part
of the world. My fight is to cast it
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on you. Yeah, because you said you're gonna fight
the battle for me. So that's kind of, to
me, where the fight always ends up. It ends
up at me agreeing with God's word about it.
Because he already said we got the victory. So
the fight a lot of times to me is
I'm a fight. How am I going to fight
this fear and this doubt and this unbelief? With
the Word, which is going to give me confidence
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in God's word and it's going to help me
to read out some of this unbelief. Because that's
a lot of times what you're fighting. The devil
just throw lies.
Yeah, that's good.
He's already a defeated foe. So the fighters don't
buy them lies. He's already lost. So now I
have to fight to put my eyes on the
word of God, which says that I have the
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victory, which says that God cares for me and
that I need to be casting my care onto
him. Like it says all of these things. And
to me, our fight is to acknowledge it, see
it, put it in front of us, and then
obey the steps that God gives us. So yes,
stay in the fight. But the fight is so
much. We know the scripture about it not being
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flesh and blood. Well, sometimes it's our flesh and
blood or our brain other than other people's flesh
and blood. It's a spirit. We have to get
out the way and let God be God and
say, lord, I'm gonna agree with this word. Cause
that's where it's at. Agree with God. If we
could get ourself into like agreement and belief. Not
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just I agree cause I said it, but I
actually believe this. And it is what it is.
Lord, I'm gonna just believe what you say. We
have to get ourselves to that point because we
drive ourselves crazy and be weary and all the
rest of the stuff we said, trying to do
it in our own strength.
Yeah, we can't. No, for sure. And that is
something that Pastor Chris said yesterday. Doing it in
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our own strength. I think for me, staying in
a fight was not getting weary and just saying,
skip it. I'm going to respond out of flesh.
I'm going to not read the Bible. I'm not
going to pray about this no more. Because I
could get to a point real fast, be like,
I don't care. You know what I mean? So
for me, standing in the fight, it's like not
giving into my flesh, but it can be taken
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either way. Like, standing in a fight where I'm
gonna keep fighting this.
And that's really saying the same thing. Cause at
the end of the day, standing the word and
keeping walking in the spirit is not giving in
to the lust of the flesh. We would love
to tap out and quit. You know what I
mean? So it's the same thing. It's just. I'm
seeing it. I'm looking at it two times.
When these battles happen, we ain't coming out with
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lashes and hair extensions. Like, these battles be tough.
Yeah. When we think this is too much.
I'm never coming out a fight with lashes nor
hair extensions neither. Or even hair, for that matter.
I mean, I'm just saying, like, we think of
a fight, it's not a little cute, like, tap
fight like the enemy. He tried to take us
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out. And these fights be intense.
But he can't take you out.
He can't take you out, Ty'esha.
He can't.
I feel like this is a pastor. He is
speaking directly.
He can't take you out.
You're right. You're right.
But he's defeated.
He is.
You do have to build endurance. Like how you
talked about, like, with the running thing. And I
do, like, clearly remember the Lord telling me earlier
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in the year, I was going through something. I'm
like, man, you. You see me with my faith.
You see me doing. He was like, it's not
a faith issue. It's an endurance issue. And so
I'm like, oh, that's good. Okay. Like, so I
need to build up my endurance. And then I
start talking to him, like, what does that actually
mean for me to endure? It's like. And for
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me, again, going back to that injustice thing, like,
that just bur burns my. So he's just like.
It's the ability to, like, see something and immediately
pray about it instead of getting mad about it.
It's the ability to keep going even though nothing
is happening and you don't see it happening, but
knowing that I'm gonna do something about it in
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the end, whether it's earth side or heaven's side,
it's gonna get addressed whether you wanted to or
not. And so, like, that part has been a
saving grace, I would say, in terms of knowing
how to endure. So it's not. It may not
be even for you staying in the fight. It
might just be that endurance of like. But how
to endure this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's good.
That's good. That's really good. So earlier, Taisha, you
was talking about just your year and this might
be me. I might be going off on a
tangent again.
He's mastering.
I was thinking about. No, I was, I was
thinking about. Well, I know. Okay, so. So one
thing that I do know, David's mom passed.
Yes.
So her mother in law passed and that's huge.
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Yeah, yeah.
That's just last month. Not even.
Yeah, yeah. And I was thinking about the different
tragedies and different things that my family has experienced
and like observing those that stick with God and
those that don't and seeing them on the other
side of these tragedies and seeing the clear difference
in how this particular family came out of the
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tragedy versus the part of the family that don't
trust in God and that don't know God. They
might say they do, but they're not living that
on a day to day basis. And realistically, even
those type of fights, that's something that there is
another side for you that's different than somebody that
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don't know Jesus. So in the same way that
you got to fight other battles, you have to
fight the battles that come with loss. You know
what I mean? But you got to let God
lead you through that stuff, knowing that on the
end of it, where his word talks about all
things work together for the good, that don't mean
he killed your, your mother in law, but what
it means is you can be better in the
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end if you stick to God. You know what
I mean? If you stick to God, he'll be
able to use your hurt, he'll be able to
use your experiences for good, for somebody else. And
I see that. It's so ironic to me that
I actually do funerals and things like that because
of the massive amount of funerals and tragedies that
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my family has seen. And me sitting there watching
this stuff over the years, I never had any
clue that God would be using those experiences for
good. You know what I mean? But I saw
that in this season at the church where it's
been so much loss and in the middle of
that, having to be one of the leaders of
the church and go through that stuff. And it's
so funny because I don't know why everything ended
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up with my mother, but every funeral I leave,
I have to call my mother for her to
now pass to me and give me some therapy.
But it goes back to seeing it like pointing
out the fact that we've been through this stuff.
That's why God is able to let you know
that's how you're able to do this. And I
wasn't looking at it that way. I was just
a child going through the stuff or even an
adult going through the stuff. But so it's even
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those battles, you know what I mean? Because she
was just talking about how what I heard from
you talking about the endurance was basically talking about
it made me think of having a healthy ness
through the fight. Yes, we know that concept when
it comes to grieving, that there's a, yeah, it's
gonna hurt, but there's a healthy way to get
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through it where you don't end up in depression
or relying on drugs and different things like that.
So when all these battles, there's a healthy way
that it can be done, but it can only
be done healthily with God, you know what I
mean? And relying on him. So that's just, I
mean that's my encouragement to everybody is whatever fight
you going through, man, it's real relying on God.
And yes, he will, he will grow you in
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the middle of stuff if you will let him.
If not, he'll let you go be depressed because
we have free will. But if you allow him
to heal you and allow him to walk you
through stuff, you'll be better on the other side
of it and he'll work that thing for good
for you.
That was good.
And you know what, like something that has comforted
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me in this season, prayers don't die. And so
like when you are going through battles, right, that
prayer that you prayed six months ago or a
year ago, that did not die, that did not
fall on death ears. And so like you might
not have seen it in the previous battle, but
the Lord can do it in this battle. And
like those prayers, even the prayers of your mother
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in law or people who have prayed for you
all this time, they don't die. And so like
you will continue to see answered prayers in the
midst of battles. And so that's also some encouragement
as well. So I'm sorry.
Well thank you guys for building me up. This
is what we do here on between sermons. You
know, we encourage one another. But I do pray
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as we end that you found encouragement in this
conversation. I mean we talked a lot about this
sermon today about God Jehovah, Nisi being our banner.
But we do pray that in this season you
can cling to that word. And I do encourage
you to go back and listen to that message,
write down those Bible verses, meditate on them, and
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take this conversation with you into those fights, knowing
that you have people praying for you, knowing that
God is not going to leave you or forsake
you, and just knowing that you can get through
this season no matter what battle you're going through.
So we love you here on Between Sermons at
coc. We love you. We are praying for you
and share this video if it encouraged you.
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Yes, I know you just closed, but can I
pray?
Yes.
I'm sorry I raised my hand, but we can't
end this without prayer. I don't know how y'all
normally do it, but the pastor ain't here today
now. So, Father, I just thank. Thank you. I
thank you for everybody that's just listening to this
podcast. And I just pray that it's something in
here that you can use to help somebody move
through the battle that they're in. It's something in
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here that you can use to encourage, to build
up just to give people hope on the other
side of the stuff that they're going through. Father.
So I just pray that you just meet each
person where they are and you just comfort them,
lead them, guide them, and help them to agree
with your word, even in the midst of the
valley, to agree with the goodness and the truth
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of your word and that you just teach each
person how to walk more in sync and more
in flow with your written word and with the
Holy Spirit that lives in them. And if they
don't know you, Father God, hey, help them to
come to know you. Tell them to just ask
you in, because that's what your word says. Ask
and they shall receive. So, Father God, I just
thank you for that right now. In the name
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of Jesus, us. Amen.
Amen.
Amen. Now that's how you close. Amen. Well, we
will see you next week on another episode of
Between Sermons.
Amen.
Amen. Okay.
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