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December 1, 2024 49 mins

What does it really mean to be ready for Jesus' return? In this episode of Between Sermons, hosts Pastor Brent McQuay and Ti’heasha Beasley sit down with special guest Sol McQuay to break down the parable of the 10 virgins in a way that hits home.

It’s not just about avoiding sin—it’s about living prepared, staying connected to God, and keeping your spiritual oil full. Sol brings powerful insights about how to cultivate a genuine, thriving relationship with God and why not all believers will be ready when Christ returns.

If you’ve ever wondered if you’re truly prepared for that moment, this episode is your wake-up call. Let’s get real, dive deep, and start living like the wise virgins.

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Sol McQuay (00:00):
One is way too far away, but
there's nothing else I can know about
it, so.

Ti'heasha Beasley (00:04):
It'll pick you up, though.

Sol McQuay (00:05):
Yeah.

Ti'heasha Beasley (00:06):
But, yeah, it does seem far away.

Sol McQuay (00:08):
At least, like, before. I remember having
it, like, so close, but she.

Pastor Brent McQuay (00:14):
We should be alive, right? Yeah. 12.
We're alive.

Ti'heasha Beasley (00:18):
Okay.

Pastor Brent McQuay (00:20):
Perfect. 4, 3, 2, 1.

Ti'heasha Beasley (00:32):
And.

Pastor Brent McQuay (00:35):
Are we live? We're good. Hey, look
at that. We actually got it to
work today. Isn't that amazing? Welcome to
another episode of Between Sermons, where we
are figuring out what we're doing with
life.

Sol McQuay (00:47):
I know.

Pastor Brent McQuay (00:48):
I am sorry. We're in a weird
mode because we're decorating the church for
Christmas right now. And so all of
us just kind of running up here,
we're like, it's almost 12. But we
are excited to be here for another
episode of Between Sermons where we get
to continue the conversation from Sunday. And,
man, what an awesome Sunday it was.
And we're gonna get into that in
just a minute. But for those who

(01:10):
don't know me, my name is Brent.
I'm one of the lead pastors here
at Christian Life center, and I would
love for you to like and subscribe
and share and do all those social
media things to help spread the word
about this podcast, because we really do
want to help you just kind of
really apply God's word into your life
that it wouldn't just be a sermon
that you sit and you listen to,

(01:30):
but it's something you can actually talk
through and apply into your life and
figure out what does this actually mean
on a daily basis. And so to
help us do that, as always, we
have our wonderful co host, Tisha Beasley.

Ti'heasha Beasley (01:42):
I am so pumped and exhausted at
the same time. I'm happy.

Sol McQuay (01:48):
It's Monday.

Ti'heasha Beasley (01:48):
It's Monday. There's a list of things
we could just talk about, but I'm
happy to be here. And we have
our special guest. Wonderful, amazing guest pastor.
So. And so. I'm ready.

Sol McQuay (01:59):
Tell me more. Tell me more.

Pastor Brent McQuay (02:02):
I'm gonna try really hard not to
be jealous over here of just the
love everyone has for you, man.

Ti'heasha Beasley (02:10):
Sister love for sure. But no, we
get to dive into an awesome conversation.
Yesterday we had a chance to hear
an amazing message that you preached yesterday.
Our last Sunday school remix message was.

Pastor Brent McQuay (02:23):
The first series, right?

Ti'heasha Beasley (02:25):
Was the pressure on to, like, do
the last message?

Sol McQuay (02:28):
It is always on. I always tell
Bren, I'm like, I don't know how
I can follow any of you. Like,
I feel like, like, you have all
of these wonderful messages, and then it's
like, it's Your turn. How do you
follow these things? You know? But. But
yeah, it was. It was good. It
was. It was a good time.

Ti'heasha Beasley (02:45):
It was good. I mean, you had
a heavy topic.

Sol McQuay (02:48):
I know. So, like, a year ago,
when we did our sermon planning, we
started figuring out what series we're gonna
be doing for the whole year. And,
you know, like, what of the parables
we wanted to do? And all of
a sudden, my name is in the
10 versions.

Pastor Brent McQuay (03:04):
Hey, hey.

Sol McQuay (03:04):
And I was like, why?

Pastor Brent McQuay (03:07):
Okay, let's setting the record straight. That
was not random or weird. We were
in a conversation. Everybody's talking about the
different parables, and you brought up the
parable of the ten Virgins, and you
were like, not to preach myself.

Sol McQuay (03:20):
Like, I bring a lot of stuff.

Pastor Brent McQuay (03:21):
But you were saying wonderful things in
that meeting about how this is such
an important parable and not a lot
of people really pay attention to it,
and we forget about it. And so
this is fantastic. And we're like, awesome
soul McQuay. Parable of 10 virgins.

Sol McQuay (03:34):
You had such energy.

Pastor Brent McQuay (03:35):
For me, the one that's funny is
my dad had pretty much the same
reaction you did to the ten Virgins,
but he had that reaction to the
parable of the treasure in the field.
And so he was like, man, I'm
going to teach on this, and this
is where we can go with this.
And he was all excited about it.
Well, then because of their mission schedules,

(03:56):
he actually had to swap with my
mother, so she had to do the
parable that my dad was super excited
about. And so that was.

Sol McQuay (04:03):
Yeah, so it was. It was. It
was one of those. Like, the whole
year, I was thinking, what am I
gonna say? How do I approach?

Ti'heasha Beasley (04:09):
It was hunting you for the whole
year? Yeah.

Sol McQuay (04:11):
I kept telling Brad, I'm like, why
did I get stuck with the ten
virgins? And he even said, well, if
you want, you can. You can change
it. Like, do something else. But it
just felt like, no, this is what
we agreed upon. I'm gonna do it.
But it was just, yeah, okay.

Pastor Brent McQuay (04:27):
And you rose to the occasion.

Ti'heasha Beasley (04:29):
Look at that.

Sol McQuay (04:30):
Praise God.

Ti'heasha Beasley (04:31):
Look at that. And you did it
so wonderful. I had so many. As
a sidebar, I had so many ladies
online saying, pastor, so is just bringing
it with that outfit yesterday. So I'm
like, yes, listen.

Sol McQuay (04:44):
I have this philosophy that if I'm
gonna go down, I'm gonna go down
in.

Ti'heasha Beasley (04:52):
Oh, my gosh. I love that. That
is so awesome. So, as you know,
we are continuing with the stories of
different parables. And so you concluded the
Sermon series with the parable of the
10 virgins. Let's just take a pause
right there. Why did we call this
story the parable of the 10 virgins?

(05:12):
Like, can somebody tell me where the
virgins come into play?

Pastor Brent McQuay (05:16):
Yeah. I think the naming schemes for
these stories is pretty straightforward. Typically, like,
somebody just takes, like, the key ingredient
of the story and just slaps a
name on it. So it's like, hey,
this is a son that's living a
prodigal life. We're gonna call it the
Story of the Prodigal Son.

Ti'heasha Beasley (05:31):
Okay.

Pastor Brent McQuay (05:32):
You know, this is a story about
a treasure that's hidden in a field.
We're gonna call it the Parable of
the Treasure in the Field, man. Right.
And so this is a story about
10 virgins. And so it's this parable
of the 10 virgins. But it's really.
It's kind of a tie to Jewish
traditional wedding ceremonies. There was, I think,
the best, like, American culture equivalent would

(05:53):
be the bridesmaids.

Ti'heasha Beasley (05:54):
Okay.

Pastor Brent McQuay (05:55):
Like, there's this bridal party. And basically
the groom would have his own entourage.
And they would go from his home.
I believe it's his home, to her
home.

Sol McQuay (06:04):
Yep.

Pastor Brent McQuay (06:05):
Okay. And on this journey, you know,
they're having a great time. And the
bridesmaids are supposed to be waiting for
the bridegroom to show up. And so
that's when the actual ceremony, the feast
and all that begins. And so it's
the story of these 10 bridesmaids just
waiting for the groom to show up.

Ti'heasha Beasley (06:25):
I mean, because 20, 24 bridesmaids, I
don't know if they could say that
they're marriages.

Pastor Brent McQuay (06:36):
Should we be laughing about that?

Sol McQuay (06:38):
Not relatable. Not relatable.

Pastor Brent McQuay (06:39):
That's not funny. That's sad.

Ti'heasha Beasley (06:41):
It is. We should not be.

Sol McQuay (06:43):
It was a little funny.

Ti'heasha Beasley (06:44):
It was a little funny. I was
just saying. So, no, I think that's
a good way to set the tone.
So when you were studying for this
sermon, what was the thing that stuck
out to you the most? If you
had to summarize the whole entire message?

Sol McQuay (06:59):
I think that for. Well, I don't
know that I can summarize the whole
entire message in this. But something that
stuck out to me that I've never
connected, that I never saw, was the
fact that Jesus was telling this parable
on Palm Sunday. You know, like, there's
just a few days before he goes
to the cross.

Ti'heasha Beasley (07:19):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (07:19):
And he's telling his disciples, you gotta
be ready. You know? And right before
he tells the parable of the 10
virgins, he's telling them about a master
that is leaving and he's coming back.
I think that for me, like, you
always kind of read the Bible and
you separate it by chapters, you know,
and you just read this chapter as
it's unique moment. But it is so
important for us to really go back

(07:41):
and realize where this conversation started. Why
is Jesus even talking about this? So
when I realized, oh, my goodness, it
was Palm Sunday, so what a moment
for him to be able to talk
to the disciples and say, be ready,
because you don't know when I'm coming
back. In a few days, I'm going
to leave.

Ti'heasha Beasley (07:59):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (08:00):
So make sure that you don't just
go back to old life, because when
I come back, you must be ready
and active in faith. Like, to me,
that was like a light bulb. It's
like, oh, my goodness, it was this
day. You always kind of, like, just
put things. You compartmentalize the Bible. Yeah,
you do, you know, and Palm Sunday
is its own day, and Easter Sunday

(08:21):
is a different day, and every parable
is a different stuff. But when you
realize when Jesus is actually speaking, it
brings so much context. Context to everything.
You know, it's. So I think that
for me, that was like a. Oh,
interesting. I've never. I've never seen it
like that.

Ti'heasha Beasley (08:37):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (08:39):
What's always crazy to me with these
moments is how much Jesus went out
of his way to prepare his disciples
for exactly what was going to happen,
and yet they were still shocked. Like,
it's like hindsight's 2020 and all that.
But, like. So sometimes I wonder, like,
if I was one of the disciples
in that moment, would I have missed

(08:59):
it, too? And I guess I would,
because all 12 of them completely missed,
like, what Jesus was saying. And it
wasn't until after the fact that they
all go, oh, that's what he meant
by I'm leaving. Oh, right, the cross.
Right?

Ti'heasha Beasley (09:16):
Yeah. That sounds pretty common today. Right?
When things go wrong in our lives
or when God's trying to tell us
something, it's not till after you're like.

Pastor Brent McQuay (09:26):
Oh, oops, I missed it.

Ti'heasha Beasley (09:29):
I missed it.

Sol McQuay (09:29):
Yeah. That is a part of human
nature.

Ti'heasha Beasley (09:31):
Yes. So it started back in the
Bible days, guys. It started. So we
are.

Sol McQuay (09:36):
There's no unique.

Ti'heasha Beasley (09:37):
It's not unique. I love. I love
that point. What I'm sitting here thinking
about is, okay, so when did he
tell the story before he rode into
town on the donkey or, like, after.
After.

Sol McQuay (09:50):
See, because he goes into the city.

Ti'heasha Beasley (09:53):
Okay.

Sol McQuay (09:53):
And then he goes immediately to the
temple.

Ti'heasha Beasley (09:55):
Okay.

Sol McQuay (09:55):
So so, like, he goes in this
parade into this. Into Jerusalem with all
of the palms and all of the
stuff, and he goes into the. Into
the temple and he teaches and he
heals people. And it's after they are
leaving, the disciples actually are the ones
that ask, so when is all of
this stuff going to happen? So it
wasn't even Jesus saying, hey, come over
here. I have something to tell you.
But it was the disciples that said,

(10:17):
okay, so when is all of this
stuff going to happen? How do we
know that the end of times is
coming? So I think that it is
also very important for us to. Sometimes
we think that asking questions is a
bad thing. But I think that there's
a lot of true and rich teaching
that Jesus gives out of questions. So,

(10:39):
like, questions were great because it was
their curiosity that brought all of this
stuff. So I think that it is
just. It's just beautiful.

Ti'heasha Beasley (10:48):
Yeah, I love that.

Pastor Brent McQuay (10:49):
Yeah. One of the things that I
think we need to also highlight is
the fact that he was answering the
question in private. And you highlighted this
in your message, and I loved it
because sometimes when we read these parables,
we picture him on the, you know,
the Sermon on the Mount kind of
setting. Like, it's like him on the
side of the mountain, and he's talking
to this crowd. But this was. There
was 12 people listening to him tell

(11:10):
this. This parable. And I think the
reason why that's important is I think
a lot of people have interpreted this
passage to mean Christians and non Christians
that, you know, there's these 10 virgins,
five of them are prepared and five
of them aren't. And so a lot
of us, we just went to, okay,
there's some Christians are going to be
ready, and non Christians are not ready
for his coming back. But he's telling

(11:31):
this story to his disciples. And these
10 virgins were all invited to the
wedding. They had relationship with the bride
and the groom. Like, they were a
part of all of this, and yet
half of them were not prepared.

Sol McQuay (11:44):
Yeah. And that's what I love about
that verse. You know, it says, even
you that follow me must also be
ready. You know, I think that sometimes
we feel like it is the whole
sin, you know, like, you have to
be away from sin if you're going
to be ready. But it is not
just sin. It is about everything that
you prioritize before that relationship with God.
It is all of the things that
take place in your life before God

(12:06):
does.

Ti'heasha Beasley (12:07):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (12:07):
You know, like when. Like I was
saying yesterday, like, are you okay with
Just enough, like, hopefully I will make
it with just the little bit I
have.

Ti'heasha Beasley (12:16):
Right.

Sol McQuay (12:16):
Or you can actually go after having
more and having extra.

Ti'heasha Beasley (12:20):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (12:21):
You know, and that overflow.

Ti'heasha Beasley (12:22):
Yeah. No. So before we get too
deep in the conversation, we always do
this. We need to switch some segments
around. But for the people who didn't
have an opportunity to hear your sermon
or don't know the story of the
ten virgins, give us a quick synopsis
of what this parable is, and then
we're going to dive into some questions.

Sol McQuay (12:44):
So the Bible talks about this. Ten
virgins who are expecting, expected to meet
the groom as he comes, and everybody
is supposed to have oil with them.
And the Bible talks about five foolish
virgins who didn't have enough oil and
five white virgins who had extra oil.

(13:04):
And as the groom was delayed, which
I think that it is just. It's
beautiful how the Holy Spirit inspired all
and every single one of the words
in the Bible. Because he was not
coming when everybody was expecting him to
come, he was delayed. You know, the
foolish virgins who just had barely enough,

(13:24):
didn't have enough to go with him
when he actually came. But the ones
that had extra, they were ready. When
they heard that the bridegroom was coming,
they were able to get up and
get everything ready to go with him.
And the ones that didn't have enough,
they said, hey, give us some of
your oil. And the wise one said,

(13:45):
sorry, I don't have enough. And while
they go and try to buy some
oil, the bridegroom comes and he takes
the ones that were ready. And the
Bible says that the door was shut
and they go into. Into the party
with him.

Ti'heasha Beasley (13:57):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (13:57):
And later the other ones come, the
foolish ones come and say, let us
in. And he said, I don't know
you.

Ti'heasha Beasley (14:05):
Yeah, that's happening.

Sol McQuay (14:06):
That's basically it. Five go and celebrate
because they were ready, five stay because
they were not prepared and were trying
to do something last minute.

Ti'heasha Beasley (14:16):
Man. Do you think God was like,
prophesying, like, half of the world is
going to go?

Pastor Brent McQuay (14:25):
I think that might be stretching the
text, but I heard a lot of.

Sol McQuay (14:29):
People say that, like, even from the
church, like, five of us are going
to go and five of us are
going to stay. I don't know that
it is a literal five.

Ti'heasha Beasley (14:38):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (14:38):
But I think that he was trying
to make the distinction that some people.

Ti'heasha Beasley (14:43):
And some out of people.

Pastor Brent McQuay (14:45):
Yeah. And I think that's going to
be the shocking thing, is that it's
probably more people than you expect.

Ti'heasha Beasley (14:49):
Yeah. I just want to be in
that number.

Sol McQuay (14:53):
Right.

Pastor Brent McQuay (14:54):
And I don't know if this is
for. For later in the conversation or
not, but, like, there's. There's an element
of this, of perseverance that shows up
repeatedly in scripture, the perseverance of the
saints that, like, he is delayed. So
are you going to persevere when your
healing doesn't come when you thought it
was going to come? Do you persevere

(15:15):
when the miracle that you were waiting
for, needing in your life doesn't come?
Are you going to persevere when reading
your Bible gets dry today or you
don't feel like praying or, you know,
whatever happens, you know, will you persevere?
And I think that we're in a
weird space in the world right now
because, like, deconstructing your faith has become
popular. And so there's. There's all these

(15:35):
people that are going forward with their
stories. And every time I hear the
story of deconstruction, all I see is
someone that didn't persevere. It was like
they had a faith, but that faith
met an obstacle, and the obstacle won.
And the wise virgins are the ones
that persevered. They're the ones that they
brought enough to make it through the
night. And so, like, I think that

(15:58):
we need to do a better job
with perseverance.

Ti'heasha Beasley (16:01):
Yeah, that is such a good point.
One thing that I was thinking about
when I was thinking about the questions
was, where does the grace and the
mercy come in when the door was
shut, right? Because God is a great.
He's merciful towards us. He offers grace.
So, I mean, that was a question
I was thinking about, like, man, where

(16:23):
does grace and mercy come in? Like,
let me in. I'm trying.

Sol McQuay (16:28):
So the mercy is here and it's
available today.

Ti'heasha Beasley (16:31):
Today, yeah.

Sol McQuay (16:32):
You know, you have all of the
mercy and all of that. The Bible
says his mercies are new every single
morning. So there's. As long as you're
alive, there's hope. After that, only God
knows, you know, and that's what the
Bible says, that he will have mercy
on who he has mercy, you know,
So I do believe that once we
are in heaven, we will see people

(16:53):
realize, may you make it in. Like,
you know, like, how. How did you
get in? Because he's gonna have mercy
on whoever he chooses to have mercy.
But I think that at that point,
it is reserved to. For him alone,
you know, in his wisdom. But the
mercy and the grace is available today.
We cannot bank on grace after. Yeah,

(17:15):
he's coming or after death. Yeah, you
have to do what you can now.

Pastor Brent McQuay (17:19):
Yeah, yeah. And there's. There's an element
of that that is problematic in the
world today where we want to hyper
fixate on grace, mercy, and love.

Ti'heasha Beasley (17:29):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (17:30):
But we don't focus on justice.

Sol McQuay (17:32):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (17:33):
And the fact that he is Lord.
Right. And so there's an element of
submission that is required. Right. It's not
just that you believe in Jesus, it's
that you confess that he is Lord.
Right. And we talk about this all
the time. We're like, even the demons
believe, but the demons aren't saved. Right.
The difference is you can believe something,

(17:54):
but until you submit to it, then
it doesn't have that same authority in
your life. And so I think that
for a lot of people, yeah, we
focus on great. Grace is awesome. Mercy
is fantastic. I love it. But this
is also a God of justice, and
there is going to be justice for
sin. And you may be looking at
yourself thinking, but I'm not that bad.
But as great as you are compared

(18:17):
to a perfect and holy God, you're
your filth, your dirty rags. And that's
not Brent being insulting. That's just me
quoting scripture. Right. Like, that's how we
are viewed in comparison to this perfect
and holy God. And so any sin
compared to that has to be punished.
There has to be justice.

Sol McQuay (18:37):
And we see that throughout Scripture, you
know, like even God with his. With
his people, Israel, even though they were
the chosen. The chosen people, and even
though it was all of the. Of
the mistakes and all of the terrible
things that they did that made God
to have the compassion and the promise

(18:58):
of Jesus to take place, he still
put them through the wringer, you know,
because there had to be justice. And
because you did this, yeah, you're going
to be slaves. And yeah, because you
did this, you're going to be conquered.
And yeah, because you did this, you're
going to be scattered. Like there has.
We have to understand that there's also
a punishment. Like, there has to be

(19:19):
consequences for our actions. We cannot just
go around doing whatever we want without
consequences, you know, because God is just.
And that doesn't mean that his plan
was not redemption. Because it was like
Jesus still came. But that didn't mean
that the people of Israel just had
a, you know, a white flag and
everything was fine.

Pastor Brent McQuay (19:39):
Yeah. I mean, think about Moses. Like,
Moses is promised.

Sol McQuay (19:42):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (19:43):
A promised land. Like, hey, this is
where I'm taking you. And Moses, because
of his disobedience, because of his sin,
he only gets to see it. He
doesn't actually get to experience it. And
you can say, but doesn't God love
Moses? Didn't. Didn't God choose Moses? Yeah,
absolutely. And Moses still died outside of
the promised land.

Ti'heasha Beasley (20:00):
Drop the ball.

Pastor Brent McQuay (20:01):
Like, it's. It's just the reality. And
I think that what we have to
be careful of, and this is the.
I guess you fall in a ditch
on either side, the path is narrow,
right? And so we got to stay
on that path of there is grace.
So, like, we are saved by grace
alone. We're not earning it by our
submission. We're not earning God's love by

(20:22):
the things that we do. However, the
things that we do should be an
overflow of the grace that we've received.
So we receive grace, and then we
respond to it with obedience. Like, the
Bible says, if you love me, obey
my commands. So I can't proclaim, you
know, Jesus is lord of my life.
I love him. And then take literally
all of his commandments and just be
like, yeah, those are just suggestions. And

(20:44):
I disagree with that one and that
one, and this one's not that great.
I'll follow that one. You know, we
don't get to pick and choose. Like,
if you love me, you'll obey my
commands. Okay, so we have to look
at Scripture. What are the commands? And
so there's this. I think that's why
there's 10 virgins, but only five of
them make it in. And the reality
is the door is going to be
shut. And the scripture says, and locked.

(21:07):
Right? Like, it's not just shut. Like,
it's. You have no access now. And
so there is coming a time. And
I don't want this to be doom
and gloom, although maybe that's my anointing
today. I don't want it to be
doom and gloom. But there is a
time when heaven is shut to people
that have not made Jesus Lord of
their life.

Ti'heasha Beasley (21:27):
And so.

Pastor Brent McQuay (21:28):
And again, you know, as Pastor Sowell
mentioned, you know, he's going to have
mercy on who he has mercy. I
don't have a heaven or hell to
put people in. I don't get to
be the arbiter of those things. But
when I read Scripture, it becomes very
clear to me that I am saved
because of the love and the grace
of an almighty God. And my response
to that Almighty God is not to

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go live however I want to live,
but it's to submit my life to
him.

Ti'heasha Beasley (21:52):
That's so good. I have so many
questions. I think I want to start
with this one. Or it's more of
a statement. And maybe you guys can
piggyback off of the statement. It. It
became kind of real to me recently
because my husband and I lost our.
He. We lost his mother. And she
was my mother in love. And I

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think the, when things like that happen,
you start to reflect on things, different
things in your life. And one thing
that I've been reflecting on is like,
tomorrow is not promised. Right. We don't,
we don't know our time.

Sol McQuay (22:24):
The next moment is right. Promise the
day.

Ti'heasha Beasley (22:26):
Yes. It's not promised. And so this
idea of living a prepared life is
not just thinking like, oh, I'll be
here till Christ returns. It's like, I
don't know what tomorrow looks like for
me.

Sol McQuay (22:40):
Yeah.

Ti'heasha Beasley (22:41):
So in application to that, like, how
can we live with that oil and
walk in grace and like, how can
we live prepared lives today, day by
day, knowing that tomorrow's not promised to
us?

Sol McQuay (22:55):
And I think that that's why Jesus
didn't say, I'm gonna come back on
this day at this time of this
year. You know, I think that he
was very, very specific when he said,
just be ready. Because I think that
a lot of people, if you knew
that Jesus is coming back on November

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12th of 2028, then you know, you
have three years to kind of coast
to coast in. Right. And then the
last few, the last few years, then
you're then or the last few months,
you're gonna just really give it all
in.

Ti'heasha Beasley (23:36):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (23:37):
And I think that Jesus is saying,
no, that's not, that is not what
it's supposed to be. I think that
we should live the same life that
we will live if we knew that
he was coming today.

Pastor Brent McQuay (23:47):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (23:48):
Because if that is going to change
the way that you live, if that
is going to change the way that
you act, if that is, then you're
just performing.

Pastor Brent McQuay (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah. We said it
in the sermon planning. It was like,
if. How many people, if they knew
Jesus was coming back at 5pm today,
would still be planning SIN at 3pm
and the answer is probably a bunch.
Like that last minute thing. And that's,
that's a life that is not prepared.

Sol McQuay (24:11):
Right.

Pastor Brent McQuay (24:12):
And so, yeah, I love. I think
the answer to the question is that
lovely sticker that you gave everybody. I
still got to figure out what to
put it on everything and every.

Sol McQuay (24:22):
On everything.

Pastor Brent McQuay (24:23):
I went to go stick it on
my phone, but my phone is black
and the text was black. And I
was like, oh, you're not.

Ti'heasha Beasley (24:26):
Gonna be able to work.

Sol McQuay (24:27):
Yeah, that would work. But yeah. We
gave everybody a sticker that says, today
is a good day to get closer
to Jesus. And that's something that I've
been saying for a moment now. Like,
my kids hear that all the time.
Sometimes I even get the.

Pastor Brent McQuay (24:41):
I think. I think you're old. Our
old. Our oldest. I don't know why
I was saying your oldest. I think
our oldest is like, mom, please stop.

Sol McQuay (24:50):
Just leave me alone. But it is
the truth that you have today. So
today, get closer to Jesus. Don't think
about tomorrow, don't think about next year,
don't think about next month. Just focus
on today and today. It's a very,
very, very good day to get closer
to Jesus. This.

Ti'heasha Beasley (25:09):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (25:09):
I love what one of our former
executive pastors here used to always say.
I think he got it from his
dad, but it was, you can be
as close to Jesus as you want
to be. And so, like, I've just
taken that and. Yeah. How close do
I want to be to him today?
Not. Not how close do I want
to be to him in 10 years?
But just. Just today.

Ti'heasha Beasley (25:27):
Today.

Pastor Brent McQuay (25:28):
Just. Just let me focus on today.
And. And I want to make sure
that I'm. I'm reading my Bible today.
I want to make sure that I'm
praying today. I want to make sure
that I'm worshiping today. I want to
make sure that I'm ultimately just putting
him first today.

Sol McQuay (25:38):
And I think that even. Even with
the. With the long term, you know,
vision. If you say, in 10 years,
how close would I want to be
to Jesus in 10 years? Well, what
do you will have to do to
get there? So start today.

Pastor Brent McQuay (25:52):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (25:52):
You know, and do the things. Because
you're not gonna get there just by
luck.

Pastor Brent McQuay (25:58):
Right.

Sol McQuay (25:58):
It is not like 10 years passed
by and all of a sudden, oh,
look, I'm closer to Jesus because 10
years went by.

Ti'heasha Beasley (26:03):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (26:03):
You know, like, you have to do
the things to get you there.

Pastor Brent McQuay (26:06):
Yeah. Nobody's ever gotten accidentally closer to
Jesus.

Sol McQuay (26:09):
No one.

Ti'heasha Beasley (26:10):
Very intentional.

Sol McQuay (26:11):
I wish, but it doesn't happen that
way.

Pastor Brent McQuay (26:13):
Oh, how did that happen? I don't
know. You were intentional.

Ti'heasha Beasley (26:16):
See, my head is. I have. I'm
just overthinking this whole thing because what
if you have a bad day and
then God come back that bad day?
But you've been like, how does this
preparation thing work? Like, where does this
mercy thing work? Like, you came back
today, and I was in my feelings
today, and this was the day you
wanted to come back.

Sol McQuay (26:36):
So I think that that's where his
mercy comes. I Think that's where his
grace comes in. I think that he
knows and he takes into consideration the
fact that we're human.

Ti'heasha Beasley (26:44):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (26:44):
The fact that we will never be
able to be perfect. The fact that
we are never just going to just
do the right thing all the time.

Ti'heasha Beasley (26:53):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (26:54):
You know, and I think that that
is just something that it is up
to him, you know.

Pastor Brent McQuay (26:59):
Yeah, absolutely. I think that it's wrong
to live in that kind of fear.

Ti'heasha Beasley (27:03):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (27:03):
And that's ultimately, you know, where your
message landed was that, you know, as
a kid you were doing all the
right things for the wrong reason. Like,
it was, it was entirely fear based.
And I think that, you know, people
that are maybe listening to this or
have thought to themselves, man, what if
I sin and then I get in
a car accident and then I didn't
have a chance to confess that sin?

Ti'heasha Beasley (27:21):
That's good.

Pastor Brent McQuay (27:22):
It's like, okay, first of all, that
probably will happen. You're probably gonna sin
without confessing it or you're not gonna
realize it was a sin. And if
we just live in this constant fear
of, oh, no, what happened? I messed
this up. I think that we're missing
out on the love and the grace
and the mercy of God. And I
think that he can, he can be
Lord of your life and you can
still be struggling with things and you

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can be on a journey, on a
process. Right. We like to say, you
know, he's not looking for your perfection,
he's looking for your progress. And so
if you're progressing more and more towards
Him, I think that's the goal. And
that means you may have a day
where you take two steps backwards. And
if Jesus comes back on that day,
is he going to be like, you
done? I don't think so. And that's

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where we do believe that it's the
grace that gets us there. I think
part of it too is what we're
trying to experience here on earth is
as much of God as we possibly
can. And so it's not about, did
I do the right things to get
into heaven? Did I not do the
right things to get to heaven? It's,
man, how close did I get to
the one that I love? The one
that I'm saying is the most important

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thing in my life? What have I
done today to honor him and to
be closer to him? I mean, my
wife and I, we're gonna have bad
days. Like, there's gonna be days when,
you know, I mess up, I say
the wrong thing, I do the wrong
thing. There's gonna be days when she
tells me to set up the entire
house for Christmas and I'm just like,
no, stop it.

Sol McQuay (28:45):
Not in its, not in itself, it's
sin.

Pastor Brent McQuay (28:51):
But ultimately what I have to communicate
is the love that I have for
her. And so if I have a
bad day, then the very next day
I'm gonna be quick to apologize, I'm
gonna be quick to recognize yesterday wasn't
a good day. Yesterday I messed up.
Yesterday I said the wrong thing. Let
me like, let me make amends. Let
me, let me go back to her
and say, hey, I screwed up. And
for some that, you know, it's not

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necessarily a 24 hour period. For some
it's, it's multiple years. And I would
just say today, if that's been your
story, like today is a good day
to get closer to Jesus. Like, don't
put it off for tomorrow. And don't
think that because you've drifted for so
long, it's hopeless. Now if you got
breath in your lungs, you've got a
day today that you can get closer
to Jesus. So let's do it.

Sol McQuay (29:32):
Yeah, I think, I think that that
is where the beauty of the grace
of God comes in, you know, and
that's where we need to understand that
yes, grace covers multitude of sin. You
know, his love covers multitude of sin.
Now when the Bible says that where
sin abounds, his grace abounds all the
more. So I think that it is

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a matter of the heart, you know,
what has been your intent this whole
time. And if you have really been
honest and saying, I really want you
and I really want to get to
know you, like, look at David. He
is known as a man after God's
own heart. A long list of things

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that you're like.

Ti'heasha Beasley (30:14):
And that's what I meant after God.

Pastor Brent McQuay (30:16):
Broke half the commandments and one moment,
right.

Sol McQuay (30:20):
But his heart towards God was real.
Yes, it was pure. And I think
that that is what God is looking
is a heart and a life, that
it is being worshiped to him. And
that doesn't mean that you're going to
be perfect. The moment that we're perfect,
that means that we're in front of
Jesus.

Ti'heasha Beasley (30:36):
Yeah, that's true.

Sol McQuay (30:37):
It's never going to happen on the
side of earth. For as much as
we try and as much as we
desire that it's not going to be
that way. But I think that when
we receive Christ, the Bible says that
we are righteousness in Christ, right? Like
God sees us through the righteousness of
Jesus, that means that his love and

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that his sacrifice covers the brokenness in
us. So I think that that is
where all of that comes in. How
does that work? What does God look
for and how all of that, you
know, in detail. I don't know. I
wish I did. But I just know
that. That God is good, you know,

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and that if he have gone through
all of this length to rescues us,
to rescue us, he knew that he
was coming for broken people, for people
that were never gonna live up to
the standard that he had.

Ti'heasha Beasley (31:29):
Yes. Yeah, I agree. I like how
you pointed out it's the heart. Because
that's what I was thinking.

Sol McQuay (31:35):
Yeah.

Ti'heasha Beasley (31:35):
Like, God knows how you've been living
every single day. Right. He knows, like,
if this is all one big joke
and you are striving for perfection in
that relationship. So I think in those
moments, like, that's getting into that car
accident while you're upset at your husband
and you shouldn't be, you're on your
way to apologize and you never make
it home. Like, I think he looks

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at that whole big picture of, like,
your life. Have you been living a
submitted life? Have you. You know, are
you really walking this relationship out with
him? So I love that. I love
that we brought that point up. Something
that I like that you mentioned was,
you can't borrow other people's oil. That
was. That was.

Pastor Brent McQuay (32:17):
See, actually, I hated that point.

Ti'heasha Beasley (32:19):
Wait, wait. Okay, okay, so before I
go and ask my question, why did
you hate that point?

Pastor Brent McQuay (32:24):
No, I'm being facetious, but no, I
hate the point because it's true. And
there are people in my life right
now that if I could just give
them oil, I would feel better. Like,
I would. I would have so much
less stress and worries, anxiety and fear.
Like, I would be at so much
peace if I just knew that God

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gave me a plus one.

Ti'heasha Beasley (32:45):
Dang.

Pastor Brent McQuay (32:46):
But he didn't.

Sol McQuay (32:48):
I know. My parents always said that
Jesus didn't. That God doesn't have grandchildren,
you know, that he has kids.

Ti'heasha Beasley (32:55):
Who thinks of this stuff? I would
never think to say.

Sol McQuay (32:58):
My parents had all of the sayings
and they used to say that, you
know, like, God doesn't have grandchildren. He
has children.

Ti'heasha Beasley (33:05):
Wow.

Sol McQuay (33:06):
So you're either a child or you're
not.

Ti'heasha Beasley (33:08):
But we live in such a society
where influencers are on an all time
high. And I think that it could
be a possibility that people believe, you
know, the people I'm following, somehow I'm
gonna slide in right with them because
I'm following them. So what is some

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encouragement there for, like, new believers who
It's a lot of new believers who
came to the faith that didn't grow
up in church like we did. They
don't know these parables or these stories.
And they're actually depending on a lot
of influencers, pastors, preachers, to kind of
like lead them. Like, what encouragement can

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we give to them to find that
faith and relationship for themselves?

Pastor Brent McQuay (33:55):
Yeah, I think I would just jump
in to say getting inspiration from others
is not a bad thing. What the
I can't give you my oil is.
I can't give you my relationship with
Jesus. You have to cultivate it yourself.
But I can give you tips, I
can give you advice, I can help
you interpret that scripture, I can pray

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for you. There's a lot of things
that I can do to set you
up well. But ultimately I can't take
my relationship with Jesus and just hand
it to you and you run with
it. You actually have to cultivate it
yourself.

Sol McQuay (34:29):
But I think that as far as
tips of what you could do, I
think the very first thing that you
need to do, like if you're going
to be successful, because especially if you're
new and you don't know where to
start, I think that the thing that
you need to do is find a
church that it is based on Bible,

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that it is not based on hype
or on trendiness or on, you know,
somebody that it is very good speakers
because there's a lot of people who
are wonderful speakers that I listen to
and I'm like, man, if one day
I can communicate like you, like I,
you know, just. They are just fantastic.

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They have all of this charisma and
they can make things entertaining and they
can make things just. Did you just,
you just want, just give me more,
right? Like you don't have to get
off the stage, just keep on going.
But something that is very important is
to be grounded in scripture. So make
sure that you are at a place

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where they are really going after scripture,
that they are pushing you to get
more of Jesus for yourself, that they
are teaching you how to study the
Bible, that they are teaching you how
to seek for Jesus. You know, that
it is not a self help hope,
you know, and help. And there's a
lot of things that sometimes you hear

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about all of the things that you
can do and you have all of
this strength in you. No, I don't.
And that's why I keep falling for
the same thing.

Ti'heasha Beasley (36:01):
Right.

Sol McQuay (36:02):
I need the strength that Jesus brings.
Right. So I think that that will
be my biggest advice is find a
church Home, find a pastor that actually
will pastor you towards God, because then
they will be able to explain the
Bible. And I think that's what the
importance of church. You know, like Brent
said, there's that inspiration. It is somebody

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that is saying, this is. This is
what we do and this is how
we do it. That they are giving
you the tools, that they are empowering
you so that you can then on
Monday morning, know how to get closer
to Jesus so that you know how
to pray, so that you will learn
how to. How to cultivate that relationship.
Because when you just say, well, cultivate
your relationship with God, great. How.

Ti'heasha Beasley (36:44):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (36:45):
You know, so make sure that you're
at a place where they are giving
you all of those tools, that they
are giving you the resources that you
need so that you can truly transform
your life through the power of the
Holy Spirit.

Ti'heasha Beasley (36:56):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (36:57):
And something you said earlier on in
the conversation about how great it is
to ask questions. Like, use that space
to ask questions if you're not sure
about something. Like, there's tons of stuff
that none of us are super sure
on. And there's tons of stuff that
just because of time and study, we've
learned some lessons. So ask the questions.

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And then I would just. I always
have to throw this in there. But
fact check everybody, including me. Like, fact
check me. Like, if I say something
and, man, make sure it's true. Like,
we're. We're working on a message for
our upcoming series. And I had heard
long time ago this about how shepherds
would, like, break the legs of lambs
that would wander off too much. And

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it was like they would. They would
break the leg of the lamb so
they could carry it on their shoulder.
And you always see the pictures of
them carrying on the shoulder, and the
heartbeat would be close and they would
hear the breathing of the shepherd. And
it was a way of, like, training
this animal to stake with the shepherd.
So I was like, I was making
some notes and I was about to
throw that in there, and I was
like, let me double check that. And
guess what? It ain't true. Like, it's

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not a real thing. And yet I
have heard probably 50 different preachers.

Sol McQuay (38:04):
Brendan was ready to start breaking some
legs.

Pastor Brent McQuay (38:08):
Like, I've heard at least a dozen
preachers talk about, you know, shepherds doing
this. And so I just took it
for granted that it was true. And
I've taught that it was true.

Ti'heasha Beasley (38:17):
Yes.

Pastor Brent McQuay (38:18):
But all of a sudden I was
like, you know what? Let me. Let
me double check that one. And guess
what? It ain't true. It's a myth.

Ti'heasha Beasley (38:23):
Yes. And that's what I mean when
I was saying that that influencer culture
is like, study the word of God
for yourself. Like, if you hear a
message you really enjoy, dive in and
go deeper with that message. Because I
would hate for you to be out
there with the virgins who were not
prepared, but you. Like, you told me
it was enough oil, so. And I'm

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standing here with you and I can't
get in.

Sol McQuay (38:47):
And like, if you remember beginning of
all of this conversation with the disciples,
Jesus told him, the very first thing
he said is, make sure that nobody
misleads you.

Ti'heasha Beasley (38:56):
Yes.

Sol McQuay (38:56):
Because many are going to come and.

Ti'heasha Beasley (38:58):
They'Re going to say, yes, it's me.

Sol McQuay (39:02):
And many are going to be fooled.

Ti'heasha Beasley (39:03):
Yes.

Sol McQuay (39:04):
You know, that was the very first
thing that he, that he responded to
when they said, tell us what is
expected to the end, at the end,
you know, so if Jesus is telling
the disciples that have been with him,
that have seen his face and heard
his voice, make sure that nobody fools
you.

Ti'heasha Beasley (39:23):
Yes.

Sol McQuay (39:24):
How much more that for us they
have never seen him physically. Can you
imagine?

Ti'heasha Beasley (39:29):
No. Yes.

Sol McQuay (39:31):
So, yeah. It is important for all
of us to really be careful who
we listen to and who we allow
into our spirit. Because sometimes you just
run with stuff and then you're like,
yeah, what was I thinking?

Ti'heasha Beasley (39:45):
Yeah, yeah. It makes me think about
when I used to publish books. One
lady, I had to give her book
back to her because. And say we
couldn't help publish it because her story
was so angry. Like she was a
believer and she loved God, but she
was so bitter still. Like, you can

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tell the story wasn't completely completed for
her. And my rule of thumb is,
like, don't share a story that. Where
you can't see the redemption, love of
God. Like, it's not the full story.
Because you can have a group of
people read this book who are dealing
with church. Like, let's say it's church
hurt and who's dealing with church hurt.
And they tell you how to deal
with it from their own flesh. And

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then now you have these people, like
modeling something that's not even.

Pastor Brent McQuay (40:31):
You're trying to find healing from somebody
that hasn't found healing.

Ti'heasha Beasley (40:33):
Exactly.

Sol McQuay (40:35):
I think that something that it is
very important for us to. To be
aware of is the definitive statements. You
know, like, I can tell you what
worked for me, but when I say
this is what everybody should do, it
better be in the Bible.

Ti'heasha Beasley (40:51):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (40:52):
Because. Because interpreted.

Sol McQuay (40:55):
Interpreted in the Bible, you know, because
there's a lot of people out there
just saying this. It. This is it.
Like, you want to get closer to
Jesus, then you just have to do
these things. And this is it, you
know, and it is so definitive that
if you don't know any better, you
think that, well, it was my three
steps to do God, you know, or

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it was my few steps to get
out of church. Hurt.

Ti'heasha Beasley (41:20):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (41:20):
I think that the definite statements are
very dangerous. So, like, if it is
going to be something like that, it
better be accepted exactly what the Bible
says to do. Because that is the
only definite, definite statement that we have.
Those are the words of God.

Ti'heasha Beasley (41:37):
Yes.

Sol McQuay (41:37):
For all of us.

Ti'heasha Beasley (41:38):
Yes. As a shout out to this
house. I love Christian Life Center. I
think it taught me to move away
from topical studying. Right. Like having this
issue and then finding all the scriptures
to make you feel better in this
area and just looking at the Bible
holistically and understanding the full picture. So

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shout out to this church.

Pastor Brent McQuay (42:02):
Our church is fun in the sense
that, like, so it's funny because, like,
our sermon series are technically topical, but
then we approach each message not from
a topical standpoint, from an exegetical, like,
let's just take the text and let's
walk through it. And so we get
a little bit of a combination of
both approaches, but I think in a
much healthier way.

Ti'heasha Beasley (42:22):
Yes, I agree. I agree. I know
we're. We're drawing close to the end,
so I want to encourage you to
start thinking about, well, not is the
bridegroom is coming.

Sol McQuay (42:33):
The bridegroom is.

Ti'heasha Beasley (42:34):
I mean, in real life. I mean,
before we even get clue, like, in
real life, you used to. You open
your sermon and it was kind of
like listing all of these things, like
rumors of wars and this and that.
So do you. Do you guys believe,
like, this is the end time?

Sol McQuay (42:51):
It has been for over 2,000 years.

Pastor Brent McQuay (42:53):
Yeah, that's. That's the problem. Like, are
we in the end times? Yes. Does
that mean in the next 50 years?
Maybe. Who knows? But it's technically been
the end times for 2,000 years.

Ti'heasha Beasley (43:03):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (43:04):
So the end times could continue for
another 20,000 years.

Sol McQuay (43:07):
Because think about this. Like, think about
when Jesus goes back to heaven. Were
they worse? And rumors of wars and
famines and earthquakes. It was like, all
of that stuff happened even back then.
And I'm sure that people were like,
he's coming back. It's time.

Pastor Brent McQuay (43:25):
I mean, how many times in the
Gospels and in the. In Paul's letters
and the rest of the New Testament
where it says he's Coming soon, right?
And they're like, he's coming soon, he's
coming soon. And it's been 10 more
years. He's coming soon. It's been 80
years. He's coming soon.

Sol McQuay (43:40):
So tell them about the books that
you found or pastor's library in Mexico,
because that is one of this type
of situation.

Pastor Brent McQuay (43:51):
And this is why I always have
to be very cautious with end times
theology and different things. So in Mexico,
I was helping transfer our pastor's office
to another building. So we're boxing up
all of his stuff. And so I
got the privilege, and I mean that
literally, of clearing out his library. And

(44:12):
so, like, I'm just fascinated by. I
mean, this guy has been a pastor
for like 60 years, and I'm just
reading every, every book.

Sol McQuay (44:17):
And he's an American, so he got
a lot of, like, books in English.

Pastor Brent McQuay (44:20):
And so I'm just fascinated by all
the books in this massive library. But
then I pulled off a book from
the shelf that said, 88 reasons Jesus
is coming back in 1988. And I
just, like, I'm. This is probably what,
2004, 2005, that I'm pulling this book
off. And so I'm just laughing and
I put the book down into the
box and then I reach up to

(44:41):
grab the next book on the shelf
and get. I. I kid you not.
The next book on the shelf was
89 reasons Jesus is coming back in
1989.

Ti'heasha Beasley (44:49):
Oh, my goodness.

Pastor Brent McQuay (44:50):
And it was written by the same
author. That was one of those moments.
Was like, oh, I missed one. Let
me add it back in. He didn't
bother writing a sequel, I guess. Or
maybe just bastard didn't buy the sequel.

Sol McQuay (45:04):
There's no panning out.

Pastor Brent McQuay (45:08):
Yeah, let me stop. But no, I
think that the issue is every year
something happens that people say, is this
it? Is this the end? And it's
like, yes, this is the end. It's
been the end for 2,000 years.

Sol McQuay (45:19):
And we are definitely closer than we
were before.

Pastor Brent McQuay (45:23):
And tomorrow will be even closer and
the next day will be. But I
think that that question is actually. It's
the point of the parable, right? That
he said, you don't know the hour.
Right. He says the same thing to
the parable right before that about these
two servants. He says, I'm leaving and
you don't know when I'm coming back.
And one of them is ready and
one of them isn't. The ten virgins.
Five of them are ready, five of

(45:44):
them aren't. The point isn't when is
Jesus coming back. The point is, are
you ready for him to come back
right now?

Sol McQuay (45:50):
Because you don't know the time or
the hour, the day or the hour.
So we are not supposed to try
to figure it out. And I think
that's why a lot of people get
stuck, isn't they? Trying to figure it
out. Is it this year? Is it
going to be next month? Is it
going to be in our generation?

Pastor Brent McQuay (46:07):
But the Mayan calendar.

Sol McQuay (46:10):
And you get so invested in the
day and the moment when Jesus clearly
say, nobody knows except for the Father
in heaven. So what you're supposed to
be focusing on is in readying yourself.

Ti'heasha Beasley (46:25):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (46:25):
For what?

Sol McQuay (46:25):
He comes.

Ti'heasha Beasley (46:26):
Yes. That's good.

Pastor Brent McQuay (46:27):
And I think that's part of why,
you know, the signs of the end
times that Jesus gave him was so
generic and.

Sol McQuay (46:33):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (46:34):
Like, it was like, you could have
said that about any year in the
last.

Sol McQuay (46:37):
I love that 50,000 and I love
that. Is that you constantly will hear
about all of this. But then it
says, but that is not the end.

Pastor Brent McQuay (46:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sol McQuay (46:49):
That you will hear all of this.

Pastor Brent McQuay (46:51):
Wars of wars and all that. And
that's not even the end. But then
the end will come.

Sol McQuay (46:57):
Yeah. And the end will come. And
the Bible said, like, according to his
words, the gospel will be preached in
every single place on earth. Earth. And
then BL wouldn't come.

Ti'heasha Beasley (47:08):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (47:09):
That doesn't. It doesn't mean, like, you
finally preach the gospel to the last
person on earth and then immediately happens.
Like, how cool would that be, though?

Pastor Brent McQuay (47:16):
That would be literally like you're on
a missions trip and you're like. And
I just want you to know that.
That Jesus died on the cross for
you. And all of a sudden you
hear, boom, I got the last one.

Sol McQuay (47:28):
But. But, you know, but like that,
like, we don't know. Like, we don't
know what that means, you know, because
he said, I'm coming right back.

Ti'heasha Beasley (47:35):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (47:36):
And it's been over 2,000 years. Like,
it is. Like, what. What happened in
this parable. Like, the bridegroom was delayed.
He didn't come. What, Everybody expected him
to come.

Ti'heasha Beasley (47:44):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (47:45):
What I usually ask people is if
you knew that he was coming back
in a year, how would it change
how you live today? If you knew
he was coming back in 10 years,
how would it change how you live
today? If you knew he's come back
in 100 years, how would it change
how you live today? And if it
would. If any of those answers would
change, You've got the wrong heart. Like,
you've got the wrong motive. Like, back
to your sticker. Your sticker was perfect.
Today is a good day to get

(48:06):
closer to Jesus.

Ti'heasha Beasley (48:06):
Yeah.

Pastor Brent McQuay (48:07):
Make it about today.

Ti'heasha Beasley (48:09):
That's good. I'm the person that has
all these questions. I'm going.

Sol McQuay (48:15):
I have all questions about the questions.

Pastor Brent McQuay (48:18):
I love to tell people I don't
know.

Ti'heasha Beasley (48:20):
And it's not even like, I don't
know. I'm thinking about. Because you hear
people who believe that God already came
back, and that's. We are left behind.
We're left behind. So, like, how do
you read a parable, like, the 10
versions, and come to the conclusion, like,
yeah, God is not coming, but, like,

(48:40):
this is heaven. Like, Earth is heaven,
and this is why we should have
our best life here? Like, I'm just
saying. I don't know if that's the
question. I've heard this before, and I
think.

Pastor Brent McQuay (48:49):
That the people that have that view
of this is already heaven have a
really, really hard job of proving that
in Scripture. People that talk about, where's
the tribulation? And everything, that's. That becomes
a different. That's more of a theological
thing for people that are like, no,
we're already in heaven. I'm sorry, I

(49:10):
don't see any scripture that could possibly
support that belief.

Sol McQuay (49:14):
Oh, no. Because the Bible talks very
clearly that when Jesus comes back, every
eye is gonna see him. You know,
you're. And there is not gonna be
a question of. Is this it?

Pastor Brent McQuay (49:30):
Did I miss it?

Sol McQuay (49:31):
Like, you will know he's coming.

Ti'heasha Beasley (49:34):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (49:35):
And I think that that is. I
don't know. Like, I think that is
gonna be the most glorious moment.

Pastor Brent McQuay (49:40):
And the description of heaven is that
there's no more dying and there's no
more crying. And I cried this weekend,
and I was at a funeral this
weekend.

Ti'heasha Beasley (49:47):
You cried this weekend?

Pastor Brent McQuay (49:49):
Sure.

Ti'heasha Beasley (49:49):
Oh, men do cry. And I was
just like, was that shocking? I think
it was the shocking part that you
admitted that you cried. I love that.
No, I'm just playing it.

Pastor Brent McQuay (50:03):
Wow. I thought we were friends. You're
celebrating my pain and my misery.

Sol McQuay (50:07):
And his heart grew up. His heart
grew to size.

Pastor Brent McQuay (50:13):
Fluff. One more Christmas tree.

Ti'heasha Beasley (50:16):
No, I'm just saying, in this masculine
society, sometimes it's like, I don't cry,
you know? So I always love when.
When David, like, shed a tear, I'm
like, you need me.

Pastor Brent McQuay (50:28):
Rejoicing and suffering.

Ti'heasha Beasley (50:29):
No, I'm not. I promise I'm not.
I think that's great. But, you know,
I hope you guys been thinking of
your. Are we there yet? Are we
to that segment we are. It's 1251.
So this is my favorite segment. Part
where we have to have that one
take away from the message. And you
gotta hope that yours is the winner.

(50:51):
I've been thinking about it since yesterday.

Sol McQuay (50:53):
Okay, you go first, because last time
I remembered. I remember that Bren stole
yours.

Ti'heasha Beasley (50:57):
He did.

Sol McQuay (50:58):
Then you didn't want to say no.

Ti'heasha Beasley (50:59):
Yep, Some of those.

Pastor Brent McQuay (51:00):
That's cause I cheated last time. And
I was like, all of the points.

Sol McQuay (51:04):
Just so you know, he cheats a
lot.

Pastor Brent McQuay (51:07):
Just don't play cards with Soul. You
will lose because she will cheat.

Ti'heasha Beasley (51:10):
What card game? Okay.

Sol McQuay (51:12):
I mean, if you're playing a game
cheating, it should be a part of
it.

Pastor Brent McQuay (51:16):
No souls. Soul's family philosophy is if
you're not.

Sol McQuay (51:18):
Cheating, you're not playing and you're not
having fun.

Ti'heasha Beasley (51:20):
What that is. That does not sound
prepared to me.

Pastor Brent McQuay (51:24):
It does not sound very Christian. Right.
Like I try and witness to my
family.

Ti'heasha Beasley (51:29):
What are you teaching your chances?

Pastor Brent McQuay (51:32):
No, no, they definitely. They fade it
well, but they also cheat right alongside
you.

Sol McQuay (51:38):
The thing.

Pastor Brent McQuay (51:39):
The thing that makes it okay is
that she's very overt with it. So
this is like she's like sliding cards
under the table and it's like, we
see you.

Ti'heasha Beasley (51:46):
Oh, my goodness.

Sol McQuay (51:48):
And it'll get better.

Pastor Brent McQuay (51:49):
We played on a glass table one
time and she was still trying to
pass things under the table.

Ti'heasha Beasley (51:54):
That is hilarious. That was a fun
fact.

Sol McQuay (51:58):
Fun fact.

Ti'heasha Beasley (51:59):
Okay, before we get to the end,
any fun facts of this sermon? Like,
anything that you studied and you were
like. Like, this is something I did
not know about this parable?

Sol McQuay (52:07):
Oh, a lot of stuff. I think
that the. The whole Jewish festivities. I
didn't know that. You know, like, I
didn't know that. If you didn't have.
Because, you know, you always just. Just
read it and you just kind of
move on. The fact that if you
didn't have a torch or. Or like
a little lamp, people will think that
you were either gonna rob them or

(52:28):
that you were crashing the party. I
was like, that. That's interesting. So that
kind of like, identify them as being
a part of the celebration. I was
like, oh, interesting.

Ti'heasha Beasley (52:39):
That is. That wasn't.

Pastor Brent McQuay (52:41):
I didn't have any fun facts this
time around. No. I think this parable
is so straightforward that there's not a
whole lot that it's like, I missed
it. What was that? It's like. No,
it's like, just read it straightforward. Jesus
is very, very direct with this one.
And I will say that he is
way more direct with his parables. And
maybe this is your fun fact, when
it's a private conversation, when it's just

(53:03):
him and the disciples. Because in one
of. In Matthew he explains, you know,
I speak in parables because these truths
are to be revealed to you but
not to others. Right. That there's some
people that are ready to hear the
truth and some that are not. And
so he speaks in parables. So it
is confusing to people that aren't ready
to hear the truth. When he's talking
to his disciples, there's not that mix
of audience. And so a lot of

(53:24):
times when he would talk to them
privately, he would do more to explain
the parable. And a lot of his
parables became even more self explanatory.

Ti'heasha Beasley (53:32):
Yeah, it's kind of neat. That was
a fun fact. See, you just come
ready. Which brings to my point. The
point I took away is you don't
have to get ready if you stay
ready.

Sol McQuay (53:45):
Right.

Pastor Brent McQuay (53:45):
I like that.

Sol McQuay (53:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ti'heasha Beasley (53:48):
So I just think it's a thing
where we should constantly be living our
lives to be in preparation of not
just Christ returning, but tomorrow's not promised.
So every day I'm going to strive
to do better, get better and better
and do better. So that was my,
my point.

Pastor Brent McQuay (54:07):
I like it. That's a really good
one.

Sol McQuay (54:09):
My takeaway was to not dread Jesus.
Jesus return because for so many years
I did.

Ti'heasha Beasley (54:19):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (54:19):
You know, because I was so afraid,
so terrified. I remember every single time
when, you know, being a teenager, trying
to live my life and.

Ti'heasha Beasley (54:28):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (54:28):
Trying to do my own thing. Every
single time that I went to a
party that I was not supposed to
or that I was doing something that
I totally knew this is not what
I'm supposed to be doing. Like, what
I could hear was, if Jesus comes
back right now, you're staying. You know,
like, it was like that, like true
fear. And now that I have grown

(54:50):
and I have mature in my faith,
I realized that that should not scare
me, that should excite me, you know,
because I have been following Jesus and
I have been worshiping Jesus and I
have been praying to Jesus and I
have learned about who he is in
scripture. Shouldn't I not be just completely

(55:13):
excited about finally seeing face to face?
I should be.

Ti'heasha Beasley (55:16):
Yeah.

Sol McQuay (55:17):
You know, so it should not be
something that is scary. It should be
something that's exciting.

Ti'heasha Beasley (55:21):
That's good. I think you top mine.

Pastor Brent McQuay (55:25):
Mine. Mine is very similar, but from,
from a slightly different perspective. It's slightly.

Ti'heasha Beasley (55:30):
He's gonna combine the two.

Pastor Brent McQuay (55:31):
No, no.

Sol McQuay (55:32):
I know. Like, I'M gonna live ready
and be excited.

Pastor Brent McQuay (55:35):
No, no, no. I, I. So, so
you started off with. With yours being
the fear thing. For me, it's. My
takeaway is I want to be excited
for his return, to have a joy
for his return. The way I was
thinking about it is like, if God
gave me a button and he said,
brent, the moment you push that button,
Jesus comes back, how fast would I

(55:57):
push that button? And I think that
there have been times in my life
where I wouldn't push the button right
away because there was something in me
that I was fearful of. There was
a sin issue. There was still something
that I'm like, man, I don't know
how secure I am in my salvation
in this moment. And so I would
delay pushing the button, but there's also
been selfish times when, like, it's like,
oh, but there's like, I want to

(56:18):
do this thing. I want to go
to this place. I want to experience
this thing. I want to. I want
to walk my daughter down the aisle
for her wedding. Like, there's. There's these
moments of human existence, of life that
I'm like, I would want to do
those things, and so I would hesitate
to push the button, but I want
to get to a place in my
life, and this, hopefully, this is where
I am now, but if not, this
is where I want to be, is
a place where if God ever gave

(56:39):
me that button, I would push it
before he even left his hand. Like,
it just. That there's just such an
excitement and an anticipation for Jesus return
that I just. I want it to
happen now. So, yeah, that was similar,
but that was good. Push the button.
Push the button.

Ti'heasha Beasley (56:55):
Come on, let's push the button.

Sol McQuay (56:56):
Let's push the button. Yeah.

Ti'heasha Beasley (56:58):
We need to create a button now
so you can. Every day, you keep
yourself in alignment.

Pastor Brent McQuay (57:06):
And that's. That's not. No, that's not
the point. The button, like, you know
what? It's getting hard to persevere. Boom.

Sol McQuay (57:13):
Just come back, Jesus.

Ti'heasha Beasley (57:15):
Oh, my gosh. There was so many
gems to chew on during this conversation.
Preparation. Stay ready. Get ready. Living in
excitement.

Sol McQuay (57:27):
Pushing the button.

Ti'heasha Beasley (57:28):
Pushing the button.

Pastor Brent McQuay (57:29):
Can't share your oil.

Ti'heasha Beasley (57:30):
Can't share your oil.

Pastor Brent McQuay (57:31):
You don't get a plus one.

Ti'heasha Beasley (57:32):
You don't get a plus one.

Sol McQuay (57:34):
That's sad.

Ti'heasha Beasley (57:34):
Are we still doing any?

Sol McQuay (57:36):
Okay, I said no. I said that
was sad.

Ti'heasha Beasley (57:39):
It's such a. It was such a
good sermon, and I'm not just saying
that now. If we had to add,
oh, God.

Pastor Brent McQuay (57:44):
Only has kids, not grandkids.

Ti'heasha Beasley (57:46):
Yes, that was a good one. So
many things to tweet and so many
things to reshare, so many exciting things
to do. But I want to encourage
you to go and watch the sermon.
Like we did a little bit of
breaking down what the passage was during
this conversation, but I think going, watching
the show sermon, getting out your your

(58:07):
Bible, reading that parable will just give
you the full story. So thank you
for joining us. I hope you have
lots of questions in the comment section.
I hope you have lots of feedback.
Share this video like it subscribe if
you have not and we will see
you next week.

Sol McQuay (58:25):
Bye. My story in this whole time
did not upload. Like how about 95%

(58:48):
we made it through. Well, let me
push the button.

Pastor Brent McQuay (58:52):
We got a bunch of Internet issues
up here. The last few days I
was dropping calls in the other room.
Our zoom calls kept freezing yesterday.

Ti'heasha Beasley (59:04):
We didn't know if it was going
to be online or not.

Pastor Brent McQuay (59:06):
See that? That was not an us
problem. I know problem.

Ti'heasha Beasley (59:11):
I had so much peace yesterday.
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