The 2nd Location

The 2nd Location

A true crime podcast with in an depth analysis of crime. If you are little obsessive with needing to know every detail about a crime you are at the right place. I’m not just reading Wikipedia here folks. If you don’t blindly believe everything that the police says, then sit down and listen because you just found a friend. Together we will talk about horrific murders with a focus on both the victims of crime and the victims of the state, the wrongfully accused.

Episodes

October 17, 2024 54 mins

With no cameras in the courtroom the true crime community is relying on the few people that actually can get inside the tiny courtroom in Delphi, Indiana where Richard Allen is on trial for the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German for information. I am listening to the various accounts of people actually able to attend the trial and adding my own take on their take. 

In this first episode I take about the 2 days that were used...

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In this episode I talk about the trial and conviction of the second defendant to be tried for the Austin Yogurt Shop murders, Michael Scott and the subsequent successful appeals of Michael Scott and Rob Springsteen.

Sources include:

Beverly Lowry, Who Killed These Girls?

Corey Mitchell, Murdered Innocents

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February 2, 2024 43 mins

Years after the murders 4 young men were arrested and 2 eventually would go to trial and be convicted. In this episode I discuss the first trial which would result in Rob Springsteen's conviction and  death sentence.

 

Sources include:

Corey Mitchell, Murdered Innocents

Beverly Lowry, Who Killed These Girls?

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January 13, 2024 46 mins

The 4 suspects, Rob Springsteen, Mike Scott, Maurice Pierce, and Forrest Welborn are all arrested.  And in this episode I cover pre-trial motions, battles over the evidence, and the state's attempt to find some evidence against the accused other than those confusing confessions.

Sources include:

Beverly Lowry,  Who Killed these Girls?

Corey Mitchell, Murdered Innocents

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I have been talking about the Austin Yogurt Shop Murders. Four teenage girls were raped and murdered in closed frozen yogurt shop in Austin, Texas in 1991.  After 8  years of investigation the police focus on 4 young men that were teenagers at the time of the murders. And even though all 4 men are completely innocent 2 of the men confessed to a crime that they didn't commit.

It's hard to understand that innocent people confess to c...

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November 10, 2023 48 mins

Eight years after 4 teenage girls are found murdered in a burning Austin, Texas yogurt shop the police have focused their cold case invetsigation on 4 suspects that had been removed from the active suspect list almost immediately after they came under suspicion in the weeks after the murders.

With no evidence that implicates any of these suspects, no fingerprints, no DNA, no eyewitnesses the police focus on getting the suspects to ...

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October 26, 2023 42 mins

About 8 years after the murders of 4 teenagers in an Austin, Texas yogurt shop the police focus on 4 young men that where teenagers at the time of the murders. What put these guys on the police's radar? One young man had been found in the local mall with a gun a gun in his waistband 8 days after the murders. The teens had been inactivated as suspects earlier but after reviewing the casefiles the police  refocus on the 4 young men, ...

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October 16, 2023 47 mins

5 years after 4 teenagers are murdered at closing time at a yogurt shop on Austin, Texas the case is given a new lead investigator Paul Johnson. Johnson is assigned with going back into the files and seeing if there are any old leads that should be followed up on. He focuses on Maurice Pierce a teenager who was stopped at the mall near the yogurt shop just 8 days after the murders, Maurice was carrying a .22. All four victims had b...

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October 9, 2023 53 mins

While closing up a small yogurt shop 4 teenage girls were murdered in an Austin, Texas on December 6th, 1991.  Just 8 days after the murders Maurice Pierce was caught by an off-duty police officer flashing a .22 at the local mall. The police were immediately suspicious.  The mall was close to the yogurt shop and the girls had all been shot by a .22 caliber gun. 

When the police interrogate Maurice he implicated his friend Forrest W...

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October 2, 2023 45 mins

The evening of December 8th, 1991, started off innocently enough 2 teenage girls were working the closing shift at the local yogurt shop in Austin, Texas on a Friday night. Also in the shop with the 2 older girls that were working that night were the younger sister of one of the workers and her even younger friend.  The younger girls were just hanging out and helping with the closing of the shop and afterwards they planned to hitch...

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Speculation alert! In this we episode explore theories about how the murders unfolded that night, Christmas Eve 1975.  Was it a family annihilation, a robbery gone wrong, or a planned hit on Tommy Zeigler that was interrupted by his wife and in-laws resulting in their murders and the wrongful conviction of Tommy Zeigler.  It's all guesses people and I welcome your theories. Let's all meet back here when the DNA results come in.

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In 1976 Tommy Zeigler was convicted of a quadruple murder and sent to death row, but he has always maintained his innocence. Decades after his conviction Tommy gets a new supporter, Lynn Marie-Carty, a private investigator who comes up with a new potential suspect. In this episode we talk about Tommy's post conviction fight for DNA testing, new theories about the murders developed by Lynn-Marie Carty, and I grow suspicious about wh...

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Tommy Zeigler was convicted of a quadruple murder in 1976, after fighting for years Tommy finally gets DNA testing in 2002. The results support Tommy's account of the night. In this episode we talk about DNA results and an potential alternate suspect that Tommy's private investigator, Lynn-Marie Carty uncovers decades after the murders.

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In this episode we focus on jury deliberations, the jury's verdict, and the shocking decision of the judge to overturn the jury's sentence. I also begin to address Tommy Zeigler's appeals and evidence that has been uncovered after his conviction. 

Also I re-posted Episode 9 with audio that can actually be listed to. I honestly don't know how that episode got any downloads at all. Geez, I hope I'm not a meme.

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This is a re-posted episode. I didn't realize that the audio had been possessed by a demon, so here is a cleaned up recording, so, no you don't need to call in a exorcist for me.

In this episode we continue to explore Tommy's trial while focusing on the evidence presented by the defense. Tommy takes the stand to declare his innocence, and the prosecution makes a last ditch effort to get accusations that Tommy is gay before the jury...

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Steven Judy murdered a young mother and her 3 small children after tricking her into thinking that her car tire was loose and offering to help. While pretending to be a Good Samaritan he got the family into his truck and then raped the mother and murdered her and her 3 children. He was executed within 2 years of his final crime, but before he was executed he confessed to his foster mother that he had raped and murdered 13 to 15 wom...

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Tommy Zeigler is on trial for a quadruple homicide. In this episode we finish discussing the prosecutions side of the trial and address several of the main witnesses that testify against Tommy. 

Main sources for this episode include:

The Fatal Flaw, by Phillip Finch

https://www.tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com/

a website maintained by Tommy Zeigler's investigator, Lynn-Marie Carty

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Tommy Zeigler has been on death row for over 40 years for murdering his wife, in-laws, and a friend. In this episode I talk about the trial and tactics used by the prosecution to convict a man who very likely may be innocent.  Recently Tommy was finally allowed to have advanced DNA testing conducted on the evidence. So soon we will have some answers.

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In this episode about the conviction of Tommy Zeigler I talk about pretrial motions as the state rushes Tommy to trial. The defense makes numerous requests for a continuance, all of which are denied. The trial begins before the defense has finished their forensic testing, which will have fatal results for the defense.

Our main source for this episode is:

Fatal Flaw, by Phillip Finch

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We are continuing our examination of the Florida Furniture Store Murders. In this episode we cover the forensic test results and introduce the state's expert witness, Herb MacDonell, the father of the now largely discredited science of blood spatter analysis.

Source for tis episode:

Phillip Finch, "Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town"

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