The Micah Podcast

The Micah Podcast

A white man, a Black woman, and an Asian man walk into a podcast. Three pastors sit down to talk about leading from their social location.

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August 26, 2026 44 mins

The Micah Mobilizers wrestle with the question: when does naming evil become a prophetic act, and when does it become dehumanizing rhetoric? Scripture itself is full of fierce language for confronting injustice—from the prophets’ warnings to Jesus’s “brood of vipers.” So how do we distinguish righteous naming from destructive name-calling? What does it look like to confront the evil work of oppressors ...

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As the United States celebrates its 250th anniversary, the Micah Mobilizers ask: What really is our American identity? Reflecting on an essay by the Pulitzer prize winning Vietnamese American writer Viet Thanh NguyenIn, they explore what it means for Christians to love their country without confusing it with the kingdom of God.

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The Micah Mobilizers gather on Juneteenth for a courageous conversation around the Southern Baptist Convention’s recent decision to further restrict women from pastoral leadership. The troubling contrast between its aggressive policing of women in ministry and its failure to address sexual abuse within its churches begs the question: what is the connection between patriarchy, power, and abuse, and why should Christians across...

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May 22, 2026 78 mins

In this special episode recorded live at Fuller Seminary’s Houston, TX campus, the Micah Mobilizers are joined by local pastors and Fuller faculty for a conversation about fear, formation, and the church’s witness in a divided world. Using the Supreme Court's recent gutting of the Voting Rights Act and the rise of authoritarianism as a backdrop, the group wrestles with the ways fear has shaped Christian imagination, how...

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April 27, 2026 42 mins

In this episode, the Micah Mobilizers discuss two kinds of unity Christians are being called to at this moment. On one hand, U.S. leaders are calling on the church to support unchecked military power. On the other hand, Christians are calling on the church to lay down our denominational differences and come together to proclaim plainly the message of Christ—a message of love, justice, and humble walking before the Lord. So th...

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Bret’s recent experience preaching in a Black church context and realizing, in real time, that his message was not landing as expected, sparks this discussion about the challenge of speaking across cultural divides. What happens when our assumptions don’t translate? What does it mean to speak prophetically in a space shaped by different lived experiences? The Micah Mobilizers are joined by Eric Nicolaysen, a Vineyard pa...

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Since the United States and Israel launched military strikes against Iran that killed Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, among others, some are celebrating and some are terrified about what comes next. The modern world continues to assume that violence is the final answer, but the church cannot simply echo that logic. In this episode, the Micah Mobilizers are not asking a partisan question, but a discipleship question: what does it mean to fo...

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February 20, 2026 45 mins

Recently, the sitting president of the United States posted a video portraying the Obamas as apes. This blatant racism plays on one of the oldest, vilest, tropes of white supremacy that has been used to justify centuries of dehumanization of Black men and women. This is not an agree to disagree situation. Christ-followers must stand against this kind of evil rhetoric. In today’s episode, Jin, Joy, and Bret discuss: How can we...

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The Micah Mobilizers continue their discussion of the American Church’s response to Charlie Kirk. Many in leadership are focused on calming the anxieties of people by acknowledging the tragedy of this violence, but also ignoring or whitewashing the politics of white supremacy and violence espoused and stoked by Kirk. As Ta-Nehisi Coates asks, “If you would look away from the words of Charlie Kirk, from what else would y...

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September 17, 2025 50 mins

The reprehensible killing of Charlie Kirk has revealed a deep divide in our country and a deep divide in the American church. How do we find hope for the church in this era of violent division?

Visit micahgroups.org to learn about our upcoming Micah Groups Facilitator Training, led by Joy, Jin, and Bret. You'll get tools and equipping to help you facilitate courageous conversations in your own church or community.

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July 29, 2025 40 mins

In a surprise announcement, the IRS recently stated that “houses of worship can endorse candidates for political office without jeopardizing their tax-exempt status.”This might sound like greater freedom for churches to do what they’re supposed to do, but it also blurs the line between the church and state even further. So the question is —does this help or harm the prophetic voice of the church? 

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June 30, 2025 43 mins

Last week, the President declared war on Iran and dropped bombs. Many political and religious leaders are espousing support for Israel that is rooted in Christian conviction, but this willingness to kill for God’s sake is driven by bad theology. What is our sacred resistance? What must we say? What must we do? What must we pray?

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June 18, 2025 40 mins

What does it mean for Christian leaders to resist in this time? This is not business as usual in the U.S. The dismantling of democracy, due process, rule of law, and the normalization of cruelty and abuse of power is unprecedented in our country's history. What can we do?

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When should we speak up? When should we remain silent? Where do we find the energy, hope, and joy to sustain us? These are many of the questions pastors and church leaders are asking as we see the world gravitating more and more toward authoritarian governance. 

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February 24, 2025 48 mins

There have always been attempts by the Empire to subjugate Christianity for its own purposes, but there is something new about the most recent attempts to co-opt the name of Christ to serve political purposes. Recently, JD Vance appealed to Thomas Aquinas’ concept of ordo Amoris—“rightly ordered love”—to make his case that what this administration is doing is, in fact, not only moral, but Christian. Jo...

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February 12, 2025 46 mins

The Micah Mobilizers are joined by special guest Sandy Richter, an Anglican priest and Micah Group alum, as they reflect on the prophetic witness of Bishop Budde, who called for mercy at the National Prayer Breakfast last month and was met with anger and hate from many Christians. In these tumultuous times, the most powerful prophetic work we can do is to live out Christlike qualities.

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January 29, 2025 47 mins

As we watch the news of the U.S. federal government ending DEI initiatives, and corporations including Wal-Mart, Facebook, McDonald’s, Ford, and many others follow suit, what is the prophetic call to the Christian church? 

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The Micah Mobilizers spend time processing their emotions and intentions in our post-election reality. As leaders, what do we do when we feel helpless? How do we respond to pushback that pastors are not supposed to be political? How do we model for our communities what it means to both challenge and encourage one another toward confronting our own biases? How do we learn to act upon the imagination and strength that God has given u...

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October 22, 2024 57 mins

What do we need to confront about how race and gender are used by both sides in an election year? And what’s happening to the Black male vote? In today’s discussion, Joy, Jin, and Bret are joined by special guest, Pastor Fred Wilson, Faith & Community Relations Director at UCAN Chicago. 

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October 9, 2024 50 mins

Many pastors are scared to talk about the racist lies being spread in the current election cycle in the U.S. We don’t want to be partisan, we don’t want to get into uncomfortable conversations. We hide behind the notion that all politicians lie. But what is this saying to people of color in our churches and communities? How do we help disciple our white men and women to love our neighbors better than this?

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