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Every Tuesday and Friday, tech journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. After all, with great power comes great scrutiny. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
Episodes
April 22, 2025 • 72 mins
Kara and Scott discuss Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth getting caught up in another Signal scandal, Tesla’s latest setbacks, and whether Google will have to spin off Chrome. Then, they dive into a busy few days for the Trump administration — from getting blocked on deportations by the Supreme Court, to reportedly planning an overhaul of the State Department, to taking suggestions on how spark the next baby boom. Plus, do Netflix’s Q...
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April 18, 2025 • 75 mins
Kara and Scott discuss President Trump lashing out at Fed Chair Jerome Powell, The White House asking the IRS to revoke Harvard’s tax exempt status, and Elon Musk trying to build an army of super-babies. Then, Nvidia says it will start producing AI supercomputers in the U.S., Mark Zuckerberg takes the witness stand, and a federal judge rules that Google acted illegally to maintain a monopoly in some online advertising technology.
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April 15, 2025 • 76 mins
Kara and Scott discuss the latest tariff confusion, with Trump flip flopping on tech exemptions, and warning of more tariffs to come. Then, the FTC's blockbuster antitrust trial against Meta gets underway. Will Meta eventually have to spin off Instagram and WhatsApp? Plus, Blue Origin's all-female flight lifts off, and Bill Maher goes to Washington for dinner with Trump.
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April 12, 2025 • 60 mins
How can AI help us understand and master deeply complex systems—from the game Go, which has 10 to the power 170 possible positions a player could pursue, or proteins, which, on average, can fold in 10 to the power 300 possible ways? This week, Reid and Aria are joined by Demis Hassabis. Demis is a British artificial intelligence researcher, co-founder, and CEO of the AI company, DeepMind. Under his leadership, DeepMind developed Al...
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April 11, 2025 • 62 mins
Kara and Scott discuss President Trump pausing tariffs for 90 days, the escalating trade war with China, and the fallout for Apple amidst the tariff chaos. Then, Elon Musk and trade adviser Peter Navarro are feuding, but it’s okay, because as The White House says, “boys will be boys.” Plus, how SCOTUS is (mostly) cutting the red tape for Trump.
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April 8, 2025 • 67 mins
Kara and Scott discuss the markets' wild ride thanks to Trump's tariffs, China's retaliation plans, and Howard Lutnick's theory about a manufacturing resurgence coming to the United States. Then, a deeper dive into some of the tariff winners (Warren Buffett), and losers (Big Tech), and some advice for panicked investors. Plus, the TikTok deadline gets extended yet again.
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April 4, 2025 • 68 mins
Kara is joined by Jon Lovett, co-host of Pod Save America and host of Lovett or Leave It. They to discuss Elon Musk’s possible departure from the Trump administration, a Democratic win in Wisconsin, and Cory Booker’s record-breaking speech. Then, Liberation Day liberated us all (and threw the market into chaos), Joe Rogan thinks the Trump administration’s deportations are “horrific,” and President Trump reviews bids for TikTok. Sti...
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April 1, 2025 • 68 mins
Kara is joined by Jen Psaki, the host of MSNBC's "Inside with Jen Psaki," to talk all things Signalgate, Trump taking on Big Law, and what's going on with the latest pardons. Then, Elon says the "destiny of humanity" rests on the outcome of the Wisconsin judicial election, and his AI company xAI acquires X. Plus, Jen weighs in on The White House Correspondents' Association cancelling comedian Amber Ruffin's appearance at the annual...
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March 28, 2025 • 71 mins
Kara and Scott jump right in to discuss all things Signalgate — will heads roll? Then, President Trump has announced a 25% tariff on imported cars, the Trump family announces plans for a stablecoin, and Megyn Kelly is launching a podcast network. Plus, stay tuned for Scott’s prediction on who will fill the leadership void left by the chaos of the Trump administration.
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March 25, 2025 • 69 mins
Kara and Scott discuss the Meta tell-all that's become a bestseller, the latest attempt to sunset Section 230, and RFK Jr.'s justification for banning phones in schools. Then, Elon Musk's visit to the Pentagon is raising questions about his conflicts of interest, especially as SpaceX prepares to get a windfall from government contracts. Plus, the massive Cybertruck recall, and Elon's daughter Vivian gives a candid and delightful in...
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March 21, 2025 • 65 mins
Kara and Scott discuss the showdown between the Trump administration and the judiciary, President Trump’s firings at the FTC, and Starlink’s latest available location…The White House! Then, the HHS has removed a Surgeon General’s advisory on gun violence from its website, BYD’s new fast-charging technology, and Forever 21 is blaming Shein and Temu for its bankruptcy.
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March 18, 2025 • 69 mins
Kara and Scott discuss cracks in the Democratic Party after the shutdown showdown, and the Dems' missed messaging opportunity on the economy. Then, President Trump puts Voice of America and another agencies on the chopping block, and gives an hour long speech to The Justice Department. Plus, Southwest Airlines says no more free bags. Is the long-term brand cost worth the short-term gain?
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March 14, 2025 • 70 mins
Kara and Scott discuss Amazon's Prime Video streaming “The Apprentice,” and Steve Bannon’s guest appearance on Gavin Newsom’s podcast. Then, the tariff whiplash continues, and President Trump is not ruling out a recession. Elon Musk plans to donate $100 million to Trump’s political operation after that Tesla ad at the White House… stick around for Scott’s prediction on how long the bromance will last.
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March 11, 2025 • 67 mins
Kara and Scott are live at SXSW — taking shots and dancing around like Elon (okay, that's just Scott). They discuss how Elon's business empire is struggling, and how much money DOGE is really saving. Then, Trump's crypto summit, and his plan to create a Bitcoin reserve. Plus, as the IPO slump continues, will any major company go public this year?
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March 7, 2025 • 77 mins
Kara and Scott discuss Jon Stewart's interview invitation to Elon Musk, and Google's efforts to persuade the DOJ that it should keep Chrome. Then, President Trump's one hour and forty minute joint address to Congress puts a spotlight on major partisan divides. Plus, the effects of Trump's tariff whiplash. (Note: in the hours since this episode was recorded, Trump changed his mind once and may do so again.)
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March 4, 2025 • 44 mins
Kara and Scott are opening up the Pivot listener mailbag and answering your questions! They discuss whether Trump will try to seek a third term, what U.S. TikTok employees should do right now, and the art of quitting. Then, Kara and Scott reveal how they quickly pull those facts and stats on every episode, and share tips for battling jet lag. Plus, would Scott ever consider a run for the presidency?!
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February 28, 2025 • 70 mins
Kara and Scott go off on Jeff Bezos' revamp of The Washington Post’s opinion section. President Trump's first cabinet meeting (feat. Elon Musk) and DOGE’s surprise leader. They also have thoughts on President Trump's new $5 million “gold card” for wealthy foreigners, and the latest market moves by Tesla and NVIDIA. Plus...Scott's upcoming cameo on HBO's The White Lotus.
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February 25, 2025 • 63 mins
Kara and Scott discuss Elon's ultimatum to federal workers, his bizarre chainsaw-wielding appearance at CPAC, and the paternity lawsuit brought by a right-wing influencer. Then, Trump fires several high-ranking military leaders, and brings in podcaster and former Fox News personality Dan Bongino as Deputy FBI director. Plus, the markets try to rebound after a dramatic plunge, Amazon takes control of the James Bond franchise, and ne...
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February 21, 2025 • 67 mins
Kara is joined by guest co-host Katie Drummond of WIRED! They talk all things DOGE: Is Elon Musk not in charge? How much have cuts actually saved so far? Is Steve Bannon a fan? Plus, X is in talks to raise money at a valuation of $44 billion, which is the same amount Elon Musk bought it for.
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February 18, 2025 • 64 mins
Ben Stiller knew he needed to make Severance the moment he read an early version of the show in a writing sample its creator, Dan Erickson, submitted to his production company. Now, years later, Severance is a hit, reportedly generating $200 million for Apple TV, and Stiller is the series’ executive producer and go-to director responsible for some of its most pivotal episodes.
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