February 20, 2025 • 36 mins
Criticizing a non-existent peace agreement. Trashing someone publicly. Having sensible leaders at table for the treaty. Would a war with China be fought exclusively abroad? Who is Jesse’s Democrat 2028 nominee prediction?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The
Jesse Kelly Show on Ay Thursday, A magnificent Thursday. We're
about to talk about the peace process some more. JD
Vance said something today, lessons for you and me about
discussing things publicly with friends and family. Jasmine Crockett's still
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an idiot. All that immigration updates and I will hopefully
this hour we get to who I believe the twenty
twenty eight Democrat nominee is going to be. Now. JD
Vance said something about the Zelensky Ukraine Russia peace process.
So who's at seapack today? He spoke, but he gave
an interview to Benny Johnson and he said something. And
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I want you to listen to this, not because I
expect you to care about you or Russia or JD.
Vans or maybe you care about all these things. That's fine.
There's an incredible lesson in this for all of us.
And we've all, if you're being honest, you've probably made
this mistake in the past, maybe you still make it,
maybe you think you should be able to make it.
How did it go?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Why is Donald Trump giving speeches now openly trashing Zelensky.
You never did that before. Now he's just trashing him.
It's pull of numbered suck. He sucks. He's ad dictator.
Why listen to JD Vans President Lensky.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
His country wouldn't exist without the generosity of the United
States of America. So say thank you, and if you
disagree with the president, pick up the phone and call
him or call one of our great diplomats. Don't go
on a media tour around Europe bad mouthing the President
United States.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's insulting.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's insulting to him, it's insulting to me, it's insulting
to the American people. And by the way, it's stupid.
All of us who know the President would tell you
that bad mouthing him in public is not the way
to get President Trump to change his mind. So I
think Zelenski needs to have some better consultants.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Controlling your mouth is difficult. It's more difficult for some
than others. I know you're going to find this stunning,
but it's difficult for me. I've found myself in trouble
many many times Marine Corps at work. Other times because
when I see something wrong, when I see something I
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dislike and injustice to some kind, whatever it may be,
I'm more prone to speak up, speak up against authority,
speak up against other people. And I'm not saying don't
stand up for yourself. I'm not saying that. But I
will say something that I have learned over forty three
years of living on this planet. As I discussed in
the opening hour, as I've discussed many times, and this
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is for you and for me, so you don't go
through the pain I've gone through. You can say for
almost anything to somebody privately, and because you didn't add
embarrassment to it, they will most likely forgive you. They
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might you might even become faster friends. They might even
thank you for it one day. But if you ever
insult somebody publicly on Facebook, on at work, in front
of people, there's a big meeting, you got a problem
with Andy, and you decide to crush him in front
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of people in the meeting, Your your wife, your husband,
you're at a party, they do something that makes you upset.
Instead of pulling them aside, away from the kids, away
from everyone everyone else, you decide to blast them there.
You have created a division that you almost certainly will
never heal because you added embarrassment to it. So unless
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that is your intention to never ever ever build that
bridge again, keep your freaking dish disagreements with people private private.
It is not a spectator sport. Would you fight with
your wife, or your coworker or anybody else private? Keep
your disagreements private. And so here's what you may be
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saying right now. If you're somebody like me, I shouldn't
have to I shouldn't have to. Okay. Now listen, that
is a teenage, a snotty teenage way of looking at
the world. I shouldn't have to. Okay, Then don't let
me know how it works out for you in your life.
Zelensky made a critical mistake very clearly. The guy has
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been coddled by every single world leader, including ours, over
the last three years. Oh Zelensky, Oh, I love you all.
What a hero? I love you, I love you, I'd
love you. It's stunning to me that he would be
dumb enough to give a television interview and utter anything
but the largest compliments for Donald Trump. How could you
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possibly be that lacking in awareness? And Donald Trump, maybe
more so than any politician I've ever seen. If you
insult Trump publicly, he will never forget it. He will
destroy you publicly. How could you be that dumb? You
are allegedly trying to preserve your country, your countryman, your treasury,
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and save something, and you looked at the one guy
who has your entire future in your hands and thought
you could get a good snippet out of trashing him
for European television. You moronen. Let it be a lesson
for all of us. Zolenski, Oh, this is gonna be
a negotiated piece. I'll get to that in a second.
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Almost guarantee you, Zelenski and Ukraine will not come out.
We're talking in an entire country. They will not come
out as good as they would have come out but
for Zolensky, fat stupid mouth. Don't let it happen to you.
I've burned myself. Learn my lessons. Learn lessons from my stupidity.
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Learn lessons from Zelensky's stupidity. Have it out in private.
It applies to your home life. Like I said, you know,
fighting with your husband is good. Fighting with your wife
is good on occasion, within reason, yell at each other.
That's how you work things out. Hash things out, don't
do it in front of the kids, because then you
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add a level of embarrassment and now you're going to
take it to the next level. Don't do it in
front of your friends, aside, pull you aside behind closed doors. Hey,
you moron, privately. Now, as far as this peace process goes,
you know what, the wildest thing about this is since
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Trump has started to dig into this and he's talking
with the Russians and he started to do all these things.
You know what the craziest part of this peace process
is is watching how many people are criticizing a peace
agreement that doesn't even exist. I want you to do this.
Do this if you feel like having a good time
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with maybe your liberal ant peg or maybe even somebody
on the right who's really really angry about the Ukrainian
Russian peace agreement, ask them which part of the peace
agreement don't you like? Ask them it'll be you'll have
a great time doing this to somebody this weekend. Ask them, Oh,
don't argue, just say oh man, you're mad about that,
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oh Trump, and putin Okay, tell me which part of
the peace agreement do you dislike the most? Just ask
them and watch what happens, because let me clue you
in on something which you already know. There is no
peace agreement yet none, We know nothing, nobody knows anything.
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We have begun negotiations like two days ago. Russia is
gonna have things they want. Ukraine's gonna have things they want.
We are gonna have things we want. Europe's gonna have
things we want. There are many things at play here,
many different national interests at play here, personal interests at
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play here. This is going to be a process. No,
we'll give you this, you can't have that. We'll give
you this, you can't have that. We're gonna guarantee this,
but we won't guarantee you that. I don't like this.
There is no peace agreement to get angry about now.
So if you're angry about it, what it tells me
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is you're angry about peace. Is that true? You just
don't want there to be peace. Who wouldn't want that?
Three years of fighting and butchery and you don't want
it to end? What Trump said is true. Have you
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seen the pictures the video Kiev Aside or Kiev, depending
on how you say it. Ukrainian cities are rubble. Ukrainian
young men are gone, absolutely gone, I'm looking at this.
Do you see this story? This was from Reuters. Ukraine's
military urges tough response after attack on draft officers. Ukraine
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has sent so many people around to forcibly conscript their
young men into this butchery that Ukrainian citizens are starting
to kill draft officers. That's how bad it is. So
before you become a warrior on behalf of some poor
Ukrainian SAPs life, maybe let's sit back and watch a
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peace process playout so people can stop dying. Mothers are
losing their sons, wives are losing their husbands. Ukrainian children
will grow up without ever seeing their dad, and Russian
children as well. I should point out there is no
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peace agreement to get angry about. If you're angry about this,
then you're angry about peace, and that's kind of gross.
Wouldn't you agree? All right? Remember and salt people privately.
Let's do a couple emails before we get to immigration.
Before we do that, let's do some hillsdale. Let's get smarter, wiser.
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I Lord knows I need plenty of that. And here's
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We'll be back, Jesse Kelly. It is the Jesse Kelly
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Show on a Thursday. And let's do some emails, shall
we before we get into some illegal immigration talk. You know what,
pause on the emails for a moment, because I just,
like I said, I love that American leaders are now
speaking boldly to our quote allies in Western civilization and
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scolding them for trashing their countries. And I you know,
I'm the ultimate ugly American. I want German to be,
Germany to be awesome. I want the UK to be
I love Britain, I'll be honest. I'm a huge fan
of the English. I love them. I know you're gonna
be mad at me for this. I want France to
be great. France has an incredible history. I don't want
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to see these countries burn. I don't, but their leaders
have sold them out same way our leaders sold us out.
And it's bad, and I want America to straighten them
up too. JD. Vance spoke today at Seapreps.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
We cannot rebuild Western civilization. We cannot rebuild the United
States of America or Europe by letting millions and millions
of unvetted illegal migrants come into our country. It has
to stop. Thank god, it's stopped here, but it's got
to stop there.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And and a related issue, Mercedes, is you can't just
stop it. You have to allow European peoples and of
course the American people too, to raise issues about it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You have to allow free speech to debate this stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You have to stop.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Doing things to the populations of the world. You've got
to give the populations of the world the opportunity to
speak up and say no more of this BS.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's wonderful. I'll give you one more JD events before
we do some emails. He's killing it out there, to many's.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Entire defense is subsidized by the American taxpayer. There are
thousands upon thousands of American troops in Germany today. Do
you think that the American taxpayer is going to stand
for that? If you get thrown in jail in Germany
for posting a mean tweet, of course they're not right.
So the point that I try to make to our
European friends, and I think that there are friends I
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believe that I know President Trump does, is that friendship
is bab on shared values. You do not have shared values.
If you're jailing people for saying we should close down
our border, you don't have shared values. If you cancel
elections because you don't like the result, and that happened
in Romania, you don't have You do not have shared values.
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If you're so afraid of your own people that you
silence them and shut them up.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Wonderful, wonderful to hear American politicians talk like that, Jesse,
I heard you slamming Lindsey Graham, and I don't want
to tell you I'm one hundred percent behind you. I
remember December twenty nineteen, after the first failed impeachment, Lindsay
stood up in front of the entire world and vowed
his Senate Judiciary Committee was going to get to the
bottom of this Russian collusion Ukraine Gate stuff and they
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were going to hold people accountable. He sat on his
thumb for nine months. Look, Lindsey Graham is exactly exactly
what I just talked about. The establishment GOP types who
day there for too long, they get too many ties,
and what they want is to prevent reform because how
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it's worked for the last ten years. As you've set
back for the last ten years overall, and you've watched
your government turn completely evil and you've been mortified and
you've wanted it to change. That has worked great for
Lindsey Graham. You know. I know he has to pretend
every now and then when it's campaign season to be
the freedom fighting reformer. But Lindsey Graham, he loves how
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things have worked. Even under Joe Biden, all that weaponization
of government and stuff like that, Lindsey Graham wasn't sitting
around stressing that, like you were stressing that it all
worked fine for Lindsey Graham, Dear Jesse, Negotiated settlements are
possible when the parties involved are rational. This is about
my talk on negotiated settlements, how the war will end.
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What happens when one or all of these parties are
irrational something to think about. It is something to think about.
It's it's a valid complaint, a val valid point, I
should say. But I would argue this when in the
history of the world have all the leaders involved been
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rational and logical. Human beings are all human beings, They're
all subject to certain things. I mean, look at this
public spat now between Zelensky and Trump. This is it's
not rational. You would want everybody to soberly and logically
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sit down and work out a deal. I'll take this.
You take that. I did that. That's what you would want,
But you'd be naive to think that's really how it
has ever worked. Have you ever if you've ever dug
into this, And there are good books about this. In fact,
I can't think of the name on one right now.
I'll come up with my favorite one. There are books
about this. The it's kind of the unsexy part of
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World War two, the political diplomatic parts of World War two.
I'm talking the FDR Church Hill stalling parts, where where
they would meet and they would discuss strategies and motivations
and how are we going to go about this? And
and it's a little bit, a little bit kind of
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you see behind the scenes on the puppet show. You
see who's holding the strings, and then the puppet show
gets a lot less interesting when you see it, right,
It's like when you find out how to do a
magic trick. It was really petty and ugly and small,
and there were egos involved, you know, Eisenhower speaking of
speaking of World War two, Eisenhower. Eisenhower's well known. It's
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well known that his great strength, I mean, he had
a bunch of them. Eisenhower was a wonderful man. One
of his great strengths was because he's got a command
all the all these generals and things like that. Well,
generals have huge egos of obviously here, I'm a i'm this,
I'm in command of that. Eisenhower could manage the egos
really really well. It is a well known part. He
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didn't have a huge one himself, so it gave him
the ability to take Let's deal with this prima donna
and that prima donna. It's just part of how it worked.
All right, do a couple more of these before we
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All right, before we do emails. Stephen Miller spoke today
in the press conference, and I think I'll play it
in its entirety when I get back. It was so good.
Hang on, you're listening to the Oracle. You love this one.
It's a scream baby. The Jesse Kelly Show. It is
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The Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday, reminding you you
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All three hours dedicated to you and your questions. Email
those into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Gonna be
a real good time on Friday. So Stephenmiller, he's been
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somebody close to Trump for some time. I don't know him.
I've never met him, we've never talked, so I can't
speak to him personally. But he's been doing a ton
of TV and every time I've seen him, he comes
across like somebody you really don't want to debate if
you're some crazy lib. And Steven Miller was in the
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press conference today. This was a couple hours ago. Steven
Miller was in the press conference today. And this is
a little long. I think it's a minute thirty something
like that. I'm actually gonna let it play because the reporters,
you know what reporters are, they're apparatics. They view themselves
as the sword and shield of American communism. They're stressed
right now, understandably stressed because the foundation, as we've said,
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the two real foundational pillars of American communism is the
taxpayer funding them and their ability to educate our children.
Well ability one taxpayer funding them is starting to evaporate
before their eyes. They're opening up the books, they're firing
federal workers, they're cleaning out all this scam stuff, and
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reporters are freaking out because without that, without their ability
to use your money to fund their revolution, they're in deep,
deep trouble. That's just basic logistics. If the money runs out,
where they're going to go? The reporter gets up and
starts whining about it. Today, you can't do this, you
can't do that. Steven Miller broke down some civics in
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such a way. I'm just going to hand him the
radio show for a minute and thirty, Chris.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
It is truly many of the people in this room
for four years failed to cover the fact that Joe
Biden was mentally incompetent and with not running the country.
It is also true that many people in this room
who have used this talking point that Elon is not elected,
fail to understand how government works. So I'm glad for
the opportunity for a brief civics lesson. A president is
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elected by the whole American peace. He's the only official
in the entire government that is elected by the entire nation. Right,
judges are appointed. Members of Congress are elected at the
district or state level, which is one man. And the
Constitution Article two has a clause known as a vesting clause,
and it says the executive power shall be vested in
a president singular. The whole will of democracy is imbued
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into the elected president. That president then appoints staff to
then impose that democratic will onto the government. The threat
to democracy, indeed, the existential threat to democracy, is the
unelected bureaucracy of lifetime tenured civil servants who believe the
answer to no one, who believe they can do whatever
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they want without consequence, who believe they can set their
own agenda no matter what Americans vote for. So Americans
vote for radical FBI reform, and FBI agents say they
don't want to change, or Americans vote for radical reformat
or energy policies, but EPA bureaucrats say they don't want
to change, Or Americans vote to end dei racist dei policies,
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and lawyers of the Department of Justice say they don't
want to change. What President Trump is doing is he
is removing federal bureaucrats who are defying democracy by failing
to implement his lawful orders, which are the will of
the whole American people.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's pretty good. Pretty good. See some emails. Hey, guys,
I wanted to give you an update on the hair
transplant surgery in Istanbul. You know that's not very nice.
I keep getting these emails about hair transplant surgery and
this is not very nice, she did say, after she
gave me the particulars on hair transplant surgery. PS on
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the don't marry a communist front, my husband has an
identical twin brother who somehow managed to marry one. She's
a real feminist obviously has issues with us workout freaks,
and we recently found out she wants to see us dead.
To say that this is disturbing. As an understatement, be
careful who you date and who you marry. One, that's
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not very nice. I don't need this surgery. And two,
like I said, fellas, be careful who you marry. Ladies,
be careful going to college. Parents, be careful sending your
daughter off to college. Fellas, be careful who you marry.
Dear Jesse, you said on Wednesday that we if we
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get into a war with Red China, it would be
fought over there, only over there? Are you sure? In
the next breath you mentioned missiles and the events of war.
What would stop Beijing from launching an ICBM, so on
and so forth? Any further thoughts. His name is John.
It's a valid concern. And I know I like to
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call myself the oracle, but that's just because I'm immature
and arrogant and stupid. I'm actually not one. So I
don't want to act like I know exactly how some
future conflicts would go. But when I said it would
be fought over there, it is, you know, the mutually
assured destruction way of thinking. Of the nuclear age that
we're in now, there's a lot of validity to that. Remember,
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nuclear weapons have been around for a while. We dropped
two on Japan. That was the first anyone saw, and
nobody's used them since. Think about that, Think how crazy
that is. We're looking at what eighty years, eighty ninety
years of possessing an incredible weapon, and nobody's using them. Why, Well,
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it comes back to the mutually assured destruction thing. Has
China had a moment where they want to drop a
nuke on DC? I'm sure Russia too, you bet. Have
we had a moment where we want to go ahead
and turn Moscow into vapor? Yep, I'm sure. But the
countries who have that ability all understand that everyone and
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every everything likely dies the second one person fires off
that first one. Now, I don't know if that eased
your mind at all, but when I said a Chinese
conflict would likely be fought over there, it probably would
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be a nasty region or affair. And I have a
hard time believing either power would use nuclear weapons unless
their very existence was threatened. That seems to be at
least how nations have operated so far. That seems to
be the way of thinking in China, in Russia, here,
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everywhere else. Hey, yeah, we can drop all the forty
thousand pound bombs we want and cruise missiles and we'll
do all these drones, you name it, artillery. But look,
even the Russians in Ukraine, they've threatened several times, they've
not even used so much much as a tactical nuclear weapon.
The Great Powers seem to be under the understanding, if
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we do this, it has to be the last thing.
It has to be the option of. If we don't
do this, we're finished anyway. So let one fly and
see what happens if we get in some kind of
a kinetic dust up with China, and I don't know
that we will, to be honest, I don't think we will,
just because we are so reliant on each other. We
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are reliant on Chinese goods, sadly, but they are very
very reliant on us buying those goods. Their economy is
not exactly going gangbusters. You can't throw that much money
away like they have without consequence. Right, So we have
a real ugly situation here. But anyway, I'm not saying
a conflict is coming, but if a conflict was to come,
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it will likely be over there because that's the one
who's trying to expand. Meaning we are currently not really
trying to expand here. Even Trump's expansion plans in Greenland,
you know, you haven't seen China get majorly involved in
that just yet. So we're not trying to expand in
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areas they care about China. They are we have operated
with this containment policy, this containment policy on China where
we understand we have to deal with them, they understand
they have to deal with us. And yeah, we're not
friends and we're gonna spy on each other, we're gonna
steal from each other. But as long as China doesn't
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go full conquering imperial Army, will all just keep going along.
The question is now what it has always been, do
they go for Taiwan? And if so, when, all right,
let's talk little immigration stuff. Hang on. He doesn't care
if you believe him, but he's right. Jesse Kelly. It
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is that Jesse Kelly show. Remember if you miss any
part of the show, you can download the whole thing
on iHeart, Spotify iTunes. Okay, before I get to the
illegal immigration talk, I have to confess something. I'm chickening out.
I don't want to be a coward, but I told
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you I was going to do something, and now I'm
too scared. I told you I was going to tell
you who I think the twenty twenty eight Democrat nominee
is going to be. And I still feel like he
might be. But the more I think of I psyched
myself out turning the commercial break, and now I'm not
so sure for a variety of reasons. So let's just
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talk about it. I'll just oh, I'll bear my soul
for you here. One. It's very difficult, very very difficult
to predict how the opposite party will act. It is,
it always is. They're in the opposite party for a reason.
They don't think like you, and I think they don't
see the same things we see. It's very difficult. Look,
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I obviously joke about the Oracle stuff. I thought Eric
Adams was going to be the Democrat nominee for president
at one point. Yeah, you're right, Chris, we don't talk
about that. Delete that. Look. It's hard, but it's hard.
It's a long shot when I made that call. But still,
it's hard. Hard to predict this stuff. I guess I
try to look at it logically, and that's probably a
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mistake because oftentimes politics on all sides isn't necessarily logical.
Let me just explain my reasoning before I get to
the actual guy who I think might make a real,
real run at it. Democrats, they're not going to be
able to get away completely from all the cultural Marxist stuff.
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Because that has become the power base of their party.
Now they understand they have to adjust some language things.
You saw the rear Admiral Buddha Jed saying this, No,
he's not my prediction, but you saw him saying, ah,
we kind of have to.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Change a little bit of that. A venue described and
it was a caricature of everything that's wrong with our
ability both to cohere as a party and to reach
to those who don't always agree with us. And we
cannot go on like that. We cannot. I also think
that we believe in the values that we care about
for a reason, and this is not about abandoning those values.
It's about making sure we're in touch with the first
principles that animate them. What do we mean when we
talk about diversity. Is it caring for people's different experiences
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and making sure no one's mistreated because of them, which
I will always fight for. Or is it making people
sit through a training that looks like something out of Portlandia?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Okay, trying to soften things up. Now, they can't get
completely away from their cultural marxistpace, but they can do math,
at least the high up democrats, the street animals, most
of them can't. But the high up Democrats can do math,
and the math says. The math says, you must win Michigan, Pennsylvania,
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in Wisconsin. Now, contrary to what we want to believe,
just because Michigan, Pennsylvania in Wisconsin are in the middle
of the country, we like to believe that everybody there
kind of shares our values and down home cooking. No, no,
there's all kinds of crazy, insane blue communist nut jobs there.
But what you need to win are the normies of Pennsylvania,
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the normies of Michigan, the normies of Wisconsin. And you
can't do that with Jasmine Crockett. You can't. You can't
do that with AOC. You have to find Look, why
did Joe Biden wurk I realized they stole the twenty
twenty election, But why did he have a better shot
at it than Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Because as
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big of a lie as it was, that whole Scranton Joe,
I'm from Pennsylvania. That sells with people. They want to
know they can relate to you. You must if you're
a Democrat. Yes, you know you have to win California.
But California's given to you. You know you need to
win Connecticut, you know you, But those states are already yours.
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If you want to win a national election, if you
want to be the president of the United States of America,
whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, you ain't getting
there without Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan. You must get there. So
what do you do if you're Democrats? JB. Pritzker is
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the governor of Illinois. Everyone in Illinois listening knows that already,
but sometimes if you're around the country, you don't really
put all these names together. JB. Pritzker's his name. You've
seen him on television. He has and if I sound jealous,
it's because I am. He has a magnificent set of hair.
He's overweight, but not not ridiculously overweight. Now hear me
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out on this. I think that matters too. It's relatable
because a lot of us are overweight. True, I'm a
little overweight right now. I'm well fat. Right now. You
can't see it because I'm six ' eight. It's all
stretched out, But trust me, I'm a little fat right now.
He's relatable. He's already achieved the position of governor. He's
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governor of a Middle America state. I know, we know
Illinois solidly blue. But he speaks in a normal way.
You know, Jasmine Crockett, you go, Carol, that's not going
to get it done. That's not going to win you Pennsylvania.
This guy. No, I don't agree with anything he's about
to say. This guy, the rumors are already flying that
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he wants it. He sounds like a man getting ready
to run for I do not.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Invoke the specter of Nazis lightly, but I know the
history intimately. The seed that grew into a dictatorship in
Europe a lifetime ago didn't arrive overnight. It started with
everyday Germans mad about inflation.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Trump's hitler. We got all that. I
got it, but he speaks well. Don't and again, don't
send me your hate mail from Illinois. I don't like
Pritzker either. He's a fundraiser. I think I think we
might have a dark horse candidate here. I was about
to predict that he's going to be the nominee, but
I'm so burned from my stupid Eric Adams prediction I
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can't now. Jewish producer Chris brought up a very good point,
a point that has been raised by Democrat polsters. Remember
when there was discussion about, hey, should we choose Dome,
should we choose someone else? Remember what they said.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
First of all, there's a long list of Democrats. Kamala Harris,
A Gavin Newsom, a Gretchen Witmer. The list goes on
and on and on. You've named four or five people.
Where is their consensus. You've got to build consensus, and
there is not consensus right now. If you pick a
white man over Kamala Harris black women, I can tell
you this, We're gonna walk away. We're gonna blow the
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party up.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Now. I don't know that I would necessarily believe a
threat like that. It's one threat from one person. Black
women are the most reliable Democrat vote in the United
States of America by a mile. I think it's like
ninety eight percent reliable, guaranteed. So I'm not saying that
he can't get that. I realize that it's a difficult
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coalition to pull together. We still have a Democrat primary
to come three and a half years from now. But
don't discount JB. Pritzker of Illinois. I'm not a fan obviously,
But I'll tell you if JB. Pritzker of Illinois was
the Democrat nominee for president, I would be worried. I
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don't know that I would say worried, but get ready
for a fight. I think we might have a challenge there.
He sounds to me like the kind of guy who
can waddle into Michigan and get some votes. All right, finally,
I'll get to the illegal immigration stuff next
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The
Jesse Kelly Show on Ay Thursday, A magnificent Thursday. We're
about to talk about the peace process some more. JD
Vance said something today, lessons for you and me about
discussing things publicly with friends and family. Jasmine Crockett's still
(00:36):
an idiot. All that immigration updates and I will hopefully
this hour we get to who I believe the twenty
twenty eight Democrat nominee is going to be. Now. JD
Vance said something about the Zelensky Ukraine Russia peace process.
So who's at seapack today? He spoke, but he gave
an interview to Benny Johnson and he said something. And
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I want you to listen to this, not because I
expect you to care about you or Russia or JD.
Vans or maybe you care about all these things. That's fine.
There's an incredible lesson in this for all of us.
And we've all, if you're being honest, you've probably made
this mistake in the past, maybe you still make it,
maybe you think you should be able to make it.
How did it go?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Why is Donald Trump giving speeches now openly trashing Zelensky.
You never did that before. Now he's just trashing him.
It's pull of numbered suck. He sucks. He's ad dictator.
Why listen to JD Vans President Lensky.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
His country wouldn't exist without the generosity of the United
States of America. So say thank you, and if you
disagree with the president, pick up the phone and call
him or call one of our great diplomats. Don't go
on a media tour around Europe bad mouthing the President
United States.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's insulting.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's insulting to him, it's insulting to me, it's insulting
to the American people. And by the way, it's stupid.
All of us who know the President would tell you
that bad mouthing him in public is not the way
to get President Trump to change his mind. So I
think Zelenski needs to have some better consultants.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Controlling your mouth is difficult. It's more difficult for some
than others. I know you're going to find this stunning,
but it's difficult for me. I've found myself in trouble
many many times Marine Corps at work. Other times because
when I see something wrong, when I see something I
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dislike and injustice to some kind, whatever it may be,
I'm more prone to speak up, speak up against authority,
speak up against other people. And I'm not saying don't
stand up for yourself. I'm not saying that. But I
will say something that I have learned over forty three
years of living on this planet. As I discussed in
the opening hour, as I've discussed many times, and this
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is for you and for me, so you don't go
through the pain I've gone through. You can say for
almost anything to somebody privately, and because you didn't add
embarrassment to it, they will most likely forgive you. They
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might you might even become faster friends. They might even
thank you for it one day. But if you ever
insult somebody publicly on Facebook, on at work, in front
of people, there's a big meeting, you got a problem
with Andy, and you decide to crush him in front
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of people in the meeting, Your your wife, your husband,
you're at a party, they do something that makes you upset.
Instead of pulling them aside, away from the kids, away
from everyone everyone else, you decide to blast them there.
You have created a division that you almost certainly will
never heal because you added embarrassment to it. So unless
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that is your intention to never ever ever build that
bridge again, keep your freaking dish disagreements with people private private.
It is not a spectator sport. Would you fight with
your wife, or your coworker or anybody else private? Keep
your disagreements private. And so here's what you may be
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saying right now. If you're somebody like me, I shouldn't
have to I shouldn't have to. Okay. Now listen, that
is a teenage, a snotty teenage way of looking at
the world. I shouldn't have to. Okay, Then don't let
me know how it works out for you in your life.
Zelensky made a critical mistake very clearly. The guy has
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been coddled by every single world leader, including ours, over
the last three years. Oh Zelensky, Oh, I love you all.
What a hero? I love you, I love you, I'd
love you. It's stunning to me that he would be
dumb enough to give a television interview and utter anything
but the largest compliments for Donald Trump. How could you
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possibly be that lacking in awareness? And Donald Trump, maybe
more so than any politician I've ever seen. If you
insult Trump publicly, he will never forget it. He will
destroy you publicly. How could you be that dumb? You
are allegedly trying to preserve your country, your countryman, your treasury,
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and save something, and you looked at the one guy
who has your entire future in your hands and thought
you could get a good snippet out of trashing him
for European television. You moronen. Let it be a lesson
for all of us. Zolenski, Oh, this is gonna be
a negotiated piece. I'll get to that in a second.
(05:47):
Almost guarantee you, Zelenski and Ukraine will not come out.
We're talking in an entire country. They will not come
out as good as they would have come out but
for Zolensky, fat stupid mouth. Don't let it happen to you.
I've burned myself. Learn my lessons. Learn lessons from my stupidity.
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Learn lessons from Zelensky's stupidity. Have it out in private.
It applies to your home life. Like I said, you know,
fighting with your husband is good. Fighting with your wife
is good on occasion, within reason, yell at each other.
That's how you work things out. Hash things out, don't
do it in front of the kids, because then you
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add a level of embarrassment and now you're going to
take it to the next level. Don't do it in
front of your friends, aside, pull you aside behind closed doors. Hey,
you moron, privately. Now, as far as this peace process goes,
you know what, the wildest thing about this is since
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Trump has started to dig into this and he's talking
with the Russians and he started to do all these things.
You know what the craziest part of this peace process
is is watching how many people are criticizing a peace
agreement that doesn't even exist. I want you to do this.
Do this if you feel like having a good time
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with maybe your liberal ant peg or maybe even somebody
on the right who's really really angry about the Ukrainian
Russian peace agreement, ask them which part of the peace
agreement don't you like? Ask them it'll be you'll have
a great time doing this to somebody this weekend. Ask them, Oh,
don't argue, just say oh man, you're mad about that,
(07:33):
oh Trump, and putin Okay, tell me which part of
the peace agreement do you dislike the most? Just ask
them and watch what happens, because let me clue you
in on something which you already know. There is no
peace agreement yet none, We know nothing, nobody knows anything.
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We have begun negotiations like two days ago. Russia is
gonna have things they want. Ukraine's gonna have things they want.
We are gonna have things we want. Europe's gonna have
things we want. There are many things at play here,
many different national interests at play here, personal interests at
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play here. This is going to be a process. No,
we'll give you this, you can't have that. We'll give
you this, you can't have that. We're gonna guarantee this,
but we won't guarantee you that. I don't like this.
There is no peace agreement to get angry about now.
So if you're angry about it, what it tells me
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is you're angry about peace. Is that true? You just
don't want there to be peace. Who wouldn't want that?
Three years of fighting and butchery and you don't want
it to end? What Trump said is true. Have you
(09:01):
seen the pictures the video Kiev Aside or Kiev, depending
on how you say it. Ukrainian cities are rubble. Ukrainian
young men are gone, absolutely gone, I'm looking at this.
Do you see this story? This was from Reuters. Ukraine's
military urges tough response after attack on draft officers. Ukraine
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has sent so many people around to forcibly conscript their
young men into this butchery that Ukrainian citizens are starting
to kill draft officers. That's how bad it is. So
before you become a warrior on behalf of some poor
Ukrainian SAPs life, maybe let's sit back and watch a
(09:53):
peace process playout so people can stop dying. Mothers are
losing their sons, wives are losing their husbands. Ukrainian children
will grow up without ever seeing their dad, and Russian
children as well. I should point out there is no
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peace agreement to get angry about. If you're angry about this,
then you're angry about peace, and that's kind of gross.
Wouldn't you agree? All right? Remember and salt people privately.
Let's do a couple emails before we get to immigration.
Before we do that, let's do some hillsdale. Let's get smarter, wiser.
(10:35):
I Lord knows I need plenty of that. And here's
what we do. I know what you do. I do
the same thing I do. I told you last night.
We don't watch as much TV anymore. You sit down,
what do you do? You scroll on your phone or
your iPad. I'll look at YouTube, video all these things.
But you know, you can do Hillsdale College on your phone.
(10:56):
You realize that they have more than forty free online
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the Roman Republic. Sit there on your chair, scroll on
your phone and get smarter. What about learning about the
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you on your freaking phone and there's no cost. There's
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We'll be back, Jesse Kelly. It is the Jesse Kelly
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Show on a Thursday. And let's do some emails, shall
we before we get into some illegal immigration talk. You know what,
pause on the emails for a moment, because I just,
like I said, I love that American leaders are now
speaking boldly to our quote allies in Western civilization and
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scolding them for trashing their countries. And I you know,
I'm the ultimate ugly American. I want German to be,
Germany to be awesome. I want the UK to be
I love Britain, I'll be honest. I'm a huge fan
of the English. I love them. I know you're gonna
be mad at me for this. I want France to
be great. France has an incredible history. I don't want
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to see these countries burn. I don't, but their leaders
have sold them out same way our leaders sold us out.
And it's bad, and I want America to straighten them
up too. JD. Vance spoke today at Seapreps.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
We cannot rebuild Western civilization. We cannot rebuild the United
States of America or Europe by letting millions and millions
of unvetted illegal migrants come into our country. It has
to stop. Thank god, it's stopped here, but it's got
to stop there.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
And and a related issue, Mercedes, is you can't just
stop it. You have to allow European peoples and of
course the American people too, to raise issues about it.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
You have to allow free speech to debate this stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
You have to stop.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Doing things to the populations of the world. You've got
to give the populations of the world the opportunity to
speak up and say no more of this BS.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's wonderful. I'll give you one more JD events before
we do some emails. He's killing it out there, to many's.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Entire defense is subsidized by the American taxpayer. There are
thousands upon thousands of American troops in Germany today. Do
you think that the American taxpayer is going to stand
for that? If you get thrown in jail in Germany
for posting a mean tweet, of course they're not right.
So the point that I try to make to our
European friends, and I think that there are friends I
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believe that I know President Trump does, is that friendship
is bab on shared values. You do not have shared values.
If you're jailing people for saying we should close down
our border, you don't have shared values. If you cancel
elections because you don't like the result, and that happened
in Romania, you don't have You do not have shared values.
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If you're so afraid of your own people that you
silence them and shut them up.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Wonderful, wonderful to hear American politicians talk like that, Jesse,
I heard you slamming Lindsey Graham, and I don't want
to tell you I'm one hundred percent behind you. I
remember December twenty nineteen, after the first failed impeachment, Lindsay
stood up in front of the entire world and vowed
his Senate Judiciary Committee was going to get to the
bottom of this Russian collusion Ukraine Gate stuff and they
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were going to hold people accountable. He sat on his
thumb for nine months. Look, Lindsey Graham is exactly exactly
what I just talked about. The establishment GOP types who
day there for too long, they get too many ties,
and what they want is to prevent reform because how
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it's worked for the last ten years. As you've set
back for the last ten years overall, and you've watched
your government turn completely evil and you've been mortified and
you've wanted it to change. That has worked great for
Lindsey Graham. You know. I know he has to pretend
every now and then when it's campaign season to be
the freedom fighting reformer. But Lindsey Graham, he loves how
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things have worked. Even under Joe Biden, all that weaponization
of government and stuff like that, Lindsey Graham wasn't sitting
around stressing that, like you were stressing that it all
worked fine for Lindsey Graham, Dear Jesse, Negotiated settlements are
possible when the parties involved are rational. This is about
my talk on negotiated settlements, how the war will end.
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What happens when one or all of these parties are
irrational something to think about. It is something to think about.
It's it's a valid complaint, a val valid point, I
should say. But I would argue this when in the
history of the world have all the leaders involved been
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rational and logical. Human beings are all human beings, They're
all subject to certain things. I mean, look at this
public spat now between Zelensky and Trump. This is it's
not rational. You would want everybody to soberly and logically
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sit down and work out a deal. I'll take this.
You take that. I did that. That's what you would want,
But you'd be naive to think that's really how it
has ever worked. Have you ever if you've ever dug
into this, And there are good books about this. In fact,
I can't think of the name on one right now.
I'll come up with my favorite one. There are books
about this. The it's kind of the unsexy part of
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World War two, the political diplomatic parts of World War two.
I'm talking the FDR Church Hill stalling parts, where where
they would meet and they would discuss strategies and motivations
and how are we going to go about this? And
and it's a little bit, a little bit kind of
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you see behind the scenes on the puppet show. You
see who's holding the strings, and then the puppet show
gets a lot less interesting when you see it, right,
It's like when you find out how to do a
magic trick. It was really petty and ugly and small,
and there were egos involved, you know, Eisenhower speaking of
speaking of World War two, Eisenhower. Eisenhower's well known. It's
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well known that his great strength, I mean, he had
a bunch of them. Eisenhower was a wonderful man. One
of his great strengths was because he's got a command
all the all these generals and things like that. Well,
generals have huge egos of obviously here, I'm a i'm this,
I'm in command of that. Eisenhower could manage the egos
really really well. It is a well known part. He
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didn't have a huge one himself, so it gave him
the ability to take Let's deal with this prima donna
and that prima donna. It's just part of how it worked.
All right, do a couple more of these before we
get back to things. First, let's get somebody decent into
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All right, before we do emails. Stephen Miller spoke today
in the press conference, and I think I'll play it
in its entirety when I get back. It was so good.
Hang on, you're listening to the Oracle. You love this one.
It's a scream baby. The Jesse Kelly Show. It is
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The Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday, reminding you you
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All three hours dedicated to you and your questions. Email
those into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Gonna be
a real good time on Friday. So Stephenmiller, he's been
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somebody close to Trump for some time. I don't know him.
I've never met him, we've never talked, so I can't
speak to him personally. But he's been doing a ton
of TV and every time I've seen him, he comes
across like somebody you really don't want to debate if
you're some crazy lib. And Steven Miller was in the
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press conference today. This was a couple hours ago. Steven
Miller was in the press conference today. And this is
a little long. I think it's a minute thirty something
like that. I'm actually gonna let it play because the reporters,
you know what reporters are, they're apparatics. They view themselves
as the sword and shield of American communism. They're stressed
right now, understandably stressed because the foundation, as we've said,
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the two real foundational pillars of American communism is the
taxpayer funding them and their ability to educate our children.
Well ability one taxpayer funding them is starting to evaporate
before their eyes. They're opening up the books, they're firing
federal workers, they're cleaning out all this scam stuff, and
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reporters are freaking out because without that, without their ability
to use your money to fund their revolution, they're in deep,
deep trouble. That's just basic logistics. If the money runs out,
where they're going to go? The reporter gets up and
starts whining about it. Today, you can't do this, you
can't do that. Steven Miller broke down some civics in
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such a way. I'm just going to hand him the
radio show for a minute and thirty, Chris.
Speaker 5 (21:35):
It is truly many of the people in this room
for four years failed to cover the fact that Joe
Biden was mentally incompetent and with not running the country.
It is also true that many people in this room
who have used this talking point that Elon is not elected,
fail to understand how government works. So I'm glad for
the opportunity for a brief civics lesson. A president is
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elected by the whole American peace. He's the only official
in the entire government that is elected by the entire nation. Right,
judges are appointed. Members of Congress are elected at the
district or state level, which is one man. And the
Constitution Article two has a clause known as a vesting clause,
and it says the executive power shall be vested in
a president singular. The whole will of democracy is imbued
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into the elected president. That president then appoints staff to
then impose that democratic will onto the government. The threat
to democracy, indeed, the existential threat to democracy, is the
unelected bureaucracy of lifetime tenured civil servants who believe the
answer to no one, who believe they can do whatever
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they want without consequence, who believe they can set their
own agenda no matter what Americans vote for. So Americans
vote for radical FBI reform, and FBI agents say they
don't want to change, or Americans vote for radical reformat
or energy policies, but EPA bureaucrats say they don't want
to change, Or Americans vote to end dei racist dei policies,
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and lawyers of the Department of Justice say they don't
want to change. What President Trump is doing is he
is removing federal bureaucrats who are defying democracy by failing
to implement his lawful orders, which are the will of
the whole American people.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
That's pretty good. Pretty good. See some emails. Hey, guys,
I wanted to give you an update on the hair
transplant surgery in Istanbul. You know that's not very nice.
I keep getting these emails about hair transplant surgery and
this is not very nice, she did say, after she
gave me the particulars on hair transplant surgery. PS on
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the don't marry a communist front, my husband has an
identical twin brother who somehow managed to marry one. She's
a real feminist obviously has issues with us workout freaks,
and we recently found out she wants to see us dead.
To say that this is disturbing. As an understatement, be
careful who you date and who you marry. One, that's
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not very nice. I don't need this surgery. And two,
like I said, fellas, be careful who you marry. Ladies,
be careful going to college. Parents, be careful sending your
daughter off to college. Fellas, be careful who you marry.
Dear Jesse, you said on Wednesday that we if we
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get into a war with Red China, it would be
fought over there, only over there? Are you sure? In
the next breath you mentioned missiles and the events of war.
What would stop Beijing from launching an ICBM, so on
and so forth? Any further thoughts. His name is John.
It's a valid concern. And I know I like to
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call myself the oracle, but that's just because I'm immature
and arrogant and stupid. I'm actually not one. So I
don't want to act like I know exactly how some
future conflicts would go. But when I said it would
be fought over there, it is, you know, the mutually
assured destruction way of thinking. Of the nuclear age that
we're in now, there's a lot of validity to that. Remember,
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nuclear weapons have been around for a while. We dropped
two on Japan. That was the first anyone saw, and
nobody's used them since. Think about that, Think how crazy
that is. We're looking at what eighty years, eighty ninety
years of possessing an incredible weapon, and nobody's using them. Why, Well,
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it comes back to the mutually assured destruction thing. Has
China had a moment where they want to drop a
nuke on DC? I'm sure Russia too, you bet. Have
we had a moment where we want to go ahead
and turn Moscow into vapor? Yep, I'm sure. But the
countries who have that ability all understand that everyone and
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every everything likely dies the second one person fires off
that first one. Now, I don't know if that eased
your mind at all, but when I said a Chinese
conflict would likely be fought over there, it probably would
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be a nasty region or affair. And I have a
hard time believing either power would use nuclear weapons unless
their very existence was threatened. That seems to be at
least how nations have operated so far. That seems to
be the way of thinking in China, in Russia, here,
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everywhere else. Hey, yeah, we can drop all the forty
thousand pound bombs we want and cruise missiles and we'll
do all these drones, you name it, artillery. But look,
even the Russians in Ukraine, they've threatened several times, they've
not even used so much much as a tactical nuclear weapon.
The Great Powers seem to be under the understanding, if
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we do this, it has to be the last thing.
It has to be the option of. If we don't
do this, we're finished anyway. So let one fly and
see what happens if we get in some kind of
a kinetic dust up with China, and I don't know
that we will, to be honest, I don't think we will,
just because we are so reliant on each other. We
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are reliant on Chinese goods, sadly, but they are very
very reliant on us buying those goods. Their economy is
not exactly going gangbusters. You can't throw that much money
away like they have without consequence. Right, So we have
a real ugly situation here. But anyway, I'm not saying
a conflict is coming, but if a conflict was to come,
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it will likely be over there because that's the one
who's trying to expand. Meaning we are currently not really
trying to expand here. Even Trump's expansion plans in Greenland,
you know, you haven't seen China get majorly involved in
that just yet. So we're not trying to expand in
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areas they care about China. They are we have operated
with this containment policy, this containment policy on China where
we understand we have to deal with them, they understand
they have to deal with us. And yeah, we're not
friends and we're gonna spy on each other, we're gonna
steal from each other. But as long as China doesn't
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go full conquering imperial Army, will all just keep going along.
The question is now what it has always been, do
they go for Taiwan? And if so, when, all right,
let's talk little immigration stuff. Hang on. He doesn't care
if you believe him, but he's right. Jesse Kelly. It
(29:00):
is that Jesse Kelly show. Remember if you miss any
part of the show, you can download the whole thing
on iHeart, Spotify iTunes. Okay, before I get to the
illegal immigration talk, I have to confess something. I'm chickening out.
I don't want to be a coward, but I told
(29:21):
you I was going to do something, and now I'm
too scared. I told you I was going to tell
you who I think the twenty twenty eight Democrat nominee
is going to be. And I still feel like he
might be. But the more I think of I psyched
myself out turning the commercial break, and now I'm not
so sure for a variety of reasons. So let's just
(29:42):
talk about it. I'll just oh, I'll bear my soul
for you here. One. It's very difficult, very very difficult
to predict how the opposite party will act. It is,
it always is. They're in the opposite party for a reason.
They don't think like you, and I think they don't
see the same things we see. It's very difficult. Look,
(30:03):
I obviously joke about the Oracle stuff. I thought Eric
Adams was going to be the Democrat nominee for president
at one point. Yeah, you're right, Chris, we don't talk
about that. Delete that. Look. It's hard, but it's hard.
It's a long shot when I made that call. But still,
it's hard. Hard to predict this stuff. I guess I
try to look at it logically, and that's probably a
(30:25):
mistake because oftentimes politics on all sides isn't necessarily logical.
Let me just explain my reasoning before I get to
the actual guy who I think might make a real,
real run at it. Democrats, they're not going to be
able to get away completely from all the cultural Marxist stuff.
(30:48):
Because that has become the power base of their party.
Now they understand they have to adjust some language things.
You saw the rear Admiral Buddha Jed saying this, No,
he's not my prediction, but you saw him saying, ah,
we kind of have to.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Change a little bit of that. A venue described and
it was a caricature of everything that's wrong with our
ability both to cohere as a party and to reach
to those who don't always agree with us. And we
cannot go on like that. We cannot. I also think
that we believe in the values that we care about
for a reason, and this is not about abandoning those values.
It's about making sure we're in touch with the first
principles that animate them. What do we mean when we
talk about diversity. Is it caring for people's different experiences
(31:24):
and making sure no one's mistreated because of them, which
I will always fight for. Or is it making people
sit through a training that looks like something out of Portlandia?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Okay, trying to soften things up. Now, they can't get
completely away from their cultural marxistpace, but they can do math,
at least the high up democrats, the street animals, most
of them can't. But the high up Democrats can do math,
and the math says. The math says, you must win Michigan, Pennsylvania,
(31:58):
in Wisconsin. Now, contrary to what we want to believe,
just because Michigan, Pennsylvania in Wisconsin are in the middle
of the country, we like to believe that everybody there
kind of shares our values and down home cooking. No, no,
there's all kinds of crazy, insane blue communist nut jobs there.
But what you need to win are the normies of Pennsylvania,
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the normies of Michigan, the normies of Wisconsin. And you
can't do that with Jasmine Crockett. You can't. You can't
do that with AOC. You have to find Look, why
did Joe Biden wurk I realized they stole the twenty
twenty election, But why did he have a better shot
at it than Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. Because as
(32:43):
big of a lie as it was, that whole Scranton Joe,
I'm from Pennsylvania. That sells with people. They want to
know they can relate to you. You must if you're
a Democrat. Yes, you know you have to win California.
But California's given to you. You know you need to
win Connecticut, you know you, But those states are already yours.
(33:04):
If you want to win a national election, if you
want to be the president of the United States of America,
whether you're a Republican or a Democrat, you ain't getting
there without Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan. You must get there. So
what do you do if you're Democrats? JB. Pritzker is
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the governor of Illinois. Everyone in Illinois listening knows that already,
but sometimes if you're around the country, you don't really
put all these names together. JB. Pritzker's his name. You've
seen him on television. He has and if I sound jealous,
it's because I am. He has a magnificent set of hair.
He's overweight, but not not ridiculously overweight. Now hear me
(33:48):
out on this. I think that matters too. It's relatable
because a lot of us are overweight. True, I'm a
little overweight right now. I'm well fat. Right now. You
can't see it because I'm six ' eight. It's all
stretched out, But trust me, I'm a little fat right now.
He's relatable. He's already achieved the position of governor. He's
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governor of a Middle America state. I know, we know
Illinois solidly blue. But he speaks in a normal way.
You know, Jasmine Crockett, you go, Carol, that's not going
to get it done. That's not going to win you Pennsylvania.
This guy. No, I don't agree with anything he's about
to say. This guy, the rumors are already flying that
(34:30):
he wants it. He sounds like a man getting ready
to run for I do not.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Invoke the specter of Nazis lightly, but I know the
history intimately. The seed that grew into a dictatorship in
Europe a lifetime ago didn't arrive overnight. It started with
everyday Germans mad about inflation.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Trump's hitler. We got all that. I
got it, but he speaks well. Don't and again, don't
send me your hate mail from Illinois. I don't like
Pritzker either. He's a fundraiser. I think I think we
might have a dark horse candidate here. I was about
to predict that he's going to be the nominee, but
I'm so burned from my stupid Eric Adams prediction I
(35:14):
can't now. Jewish producer Chris brought up a very good point,
a point that has been raised by Democrat polsters. Remember
when there was discussion about, hey, should we choose Dome,
should we choose someone else? Remember what they said.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
First of all, there's a long list of Democrats. Kamala Harris,
A Gavin Newsom, a Gretchen Witmer. The list goes on
and on and on. You've named four or five people.
Where is their consensus. You've got to build consensus, and
there is not consensus right now. If you pick a
white man over Kamala Harris black women, I can tell
you this, We're gonna walk away. We're gonna blow the
(35:49):
party up.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Now. I don't know that I would necessarily believe a
threat like that. It's one threat from one person. Black
women are the most reliable Democrat vote in the United
States of America by a mile. I think it's like
ninety eight percent reliable, guaranteed. So I'm not saying that
he can't get that. I realize that it's a difficult
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coalition to pull together. We still have a Democrat primary
to come three and a half years from now. But
don't discount JB. Pritzker of Illinois. I'm not a fan obviously,
But I'll tell you if JB. Pritzker of Illinois was
the Democrat nominee for president, I would be worried. I
(36:33):
don't know that I would say worried, but get ready
for a fight. I think we might have a challenge there.
He sounds to me like the kind of guy who
can waddle into Michigan and get some votes. All right, finally,
I'll get to the illegal immigration stuff next
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