August 25, 2024 • 24 mins
Today on the Daily Bespoke Podcast, why on earth would you want to canoe across Canada? We find out from someone who’s doing it...
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Let's get busy.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Come on, what of it? Something used to give that
so much for a while that you were really getting
into it. Now you've just you've gone off the boil.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I didn't drink this weekend. I've got a weird chemical
imbalance doing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You should be going better than you should have a
lot of energy if.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You did not booze.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The weekend was just so long.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're obsessed, You're addicted.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm obst and addicted. But I think, I think, I
think that your body, if you if you're used to
having a few on Friday and maybe a couple on Saturday,
your body must produce a bunch of chemicals to try
and offset that. And so when you take the booze away,
your body's still going. Here we go, okay, bating the hatches.
We're in for a massive poisons. Okay, here we go.
You know, like say, if like a tornado was about
(01:03):
to hit and you sort of batten up the house
and hide in the basement, That's what my body's doing,
waiting for the alcohol. Echa doesn't come, and the body's
like over compensating for it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, it's got ready with it's got ready for
the demons. Yeah, that's right. And when the demons never came,
so all the windows are battened up. And but I mean,
I think it's just it's demons for you. It's just
the demons. You just didn't have any demons anything. What's
missing in my life? It's demons.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It's the drama.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yep. People love about a drama.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's the one thing about booze that it does give
you is because I gave up drinking for a year.
Remember that time to drink for a year. Yeah, And
I did notice that my life was just so organized
and I was just achieving at such a high level
and I wasn't making any mistakes and I wasn't doing
anything stupid. And then I was just you know, there's
no more admin to do around the house. There's nothing
to fix, nothing to paint, yeah, no, nothing to take
(01:53):
to the dump, nothing to apologize for. Yeah, just quite
a lot of money in my bank account.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
That was.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah. I find that, I find that I know exactly
what you're talking about. It's too boring for me, that's
too boring. But it's much better to walk the tightrope. Yeah,
But you can walk the tightrope by drinking and seeing
if you can just get to the if you can
just get the benefits for that, getting the without getting
the negative, that's the challenge. That's the challenge for me.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, I watched this on the weekend because normally I
meet my friends for lunch on a Saturday and we'll
have a few drinks at the morning side tavern. And
I had a friend that arrived and she had a glass,
just one glass of wine, you just have one. And
then I saw her have another because I was just
on the no sugar cokes. And then she was in
and everyone was in, and so that that one hour
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you have with your friends just talking, you can go
on a no sugar coke, but then you end up
being pulled into just the drinking side of it. And
then I went off and did some Edmund. About four
hours later, I was walking past the same bar carrying
some couch cushions that I'd bought and I locked in
and they were still I mean, the thing I'm I
did by a couch cushions, you know, I did spend
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a stupid amount of money anyway, and I'm walking past
them like, oh, they've been dragged in and now they're
just fucking steamed.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
At the bar.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know you'll never do You'll never buy couch cushions drunk.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, you wouldn't. That's not on your mind. Couch cushions
aren't on your mind when you're on the steam.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, And that's some people say that it's a positive.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I think I dozed off there for a sec.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
We wake up.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Sorry, you gotta get back on the booze, mate. I
need some stories come Monday morning. I can't be sitting
hear hearing about couch cushions being purchased on a Monday morning.
And during the podcasta he spoke mate.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I also bought things that lifted like this new I
built a buffet. Oh tell me about that buff A buffet, Marie.
A buffet like a furniture thing called a buffet, which
is just something you put in your lounge that you
can keep stuffing.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
What does it look like a kind of looks like
a long cabinet.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And I had the word buffet sideboard.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
It's kind of like a TV cabinet, but it's not
for that, it's for keeping stuff. And anyway, brought a buffet,
and because I was so by went and bought like
little things to put under the feet of it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh nice, see, I'm happy with that person.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's some dis when you go so much time on
your hands, because I'm sure people would love to know
where you got those from. I got.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean, but can you delete that? I got them
from bugs?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know what I want? Delete it? Yeah, were confused?
I got that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I got them, don't I think? Delete the questions?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I got that from sucking Bunnings, mate, delete the whole
a little bit from the start and we're back. And
speaking of Bunnings, there's a new bunny at my other
house called Gordon, and my son comes down. I've just
brought them a really expensive laptop and he goes, Bloody,
Apple products don't work, do they. I said, well, they're
actually very reliable that products. And what I've brought you
(04:59):
there very expensive commuter. So what are you saying? And
he goes, well, it doesn't charge anymore. And then I
look at the cable. Bloody, Gordon's eating through the charging cable.
Gordon the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Why did Gordon want to eat the cook cable? Tasting
a rabbit will train in, don't yuck as yum. Come on, Jerry, mate,
you like weird things. I'm gonna yuck as yum, I
don't yack your yums. Yeah, but he's a he's a rabbit,
and he does have a human name, but he's a rabbit.
Gordon Gordon. He's probably not happy about his name. That's
the problem he's getting getting one back.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You're always yacking my yums.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, now you're yucking my dad's name Gordon. So yeah, Kendy, Yeah,
it was the rabbit named after it. Yeah, because my
dad goes at it like.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
A bunny, like a rabbit. He said, he's produced two children.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
He goes at it like a rabbit. You know what's
a great name for this rabbits? Dad? All right?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Called Gordon Gordon?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Or is he Gordy? He's always Gordy, man, I think Gordy?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, well I'm starting to abbreviate Gordon to Gordion.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Call him big g the g spot, Yeah, g spot.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
People do call him the gum?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Do they call him g Lane?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Not as much anymore? No, not g Lane.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Call him Go for.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Gordon, Go for Gordon. And your roofers looking good?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Noki gave for Gordon. Name your roofers looking good? Tell
you I won't have a word. Whoever did that a
with Joed. You've got bloody You've got one of the
greatest sons singers in New Zealand history, John Roles. There,
and you've only got so long on a thirty second ad.
You can to waste some of that singing time by
getting a little kid that can't sing. That's stupid. You
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got the purely beautiful pipes of John Rolls for Gerard
and your roofers looking good.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's the whole thing is like, you've got the contrast.
You got the contrast of the girl who am not.
Then they that girl was a terrible singer. It's not
like they got a girl with a good voice and there's
been lots of little kids out there with actually that
can sing. She has a terrible singer, and they got
the that's the contrast.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I'm just gonna put a picture of a.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He's not with us anymore, John Rose.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And here is he with us, John Rose, John Rolls.
If you are with us now making knocking door noise,
you're trying to run us.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It's still with us, John Rolls.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, there's no point. He's a buffet. Guys, just put
it in the dock.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
If you put a picture of a buffet in the
dark for a buffet geese? Where is it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Did John Rolls have children? Yes, there's two sounds down and.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Be like, oh that it's like a yeah, a side table.
This is a storage nice that's quite large. Does that
go in like a hallway or something?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You put it in?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It looks like they should be a mirror above it
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Someone's moved down and a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh yeah, your house could do that. It was something
to look like the house from Heat.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, I understand that we will go about to go
live to Canada.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Apparently, I'm just trying to fight this.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Tom Hudson Sailing canoe and adventure around the World. Tom
Hudson has been peddling solo and a canoe right across Canada.
You just getting a pronuncation right then.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm trying to correct you. Yeah, Canada.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Interesting. I didn't know there was a river that went
all the way across. Well, I think you check the
canoe on the back of a truck at something.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know, kicking these things.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Canado is a big place.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It is massive. I imagine that he's doing it in
summer because you wouldn't want to do it in winter
that will be frozen up.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
He saved a dog recently?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did he?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Can he hear us.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Look into thinking thinking, okay, girl, get another one. Get
someone cast out a little bit wider? Were they?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh Jesus, is this a is this a teams meeting? Oh?
This is a team's meaning? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Sorry, sorry, sorry joined the meeting.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Now's take a break and we'll be back with John
Rolls in just a moment.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Tom Hudson.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Oh, sorry, Tom Hudson. Just a moment, Hudson and Hudson
and Rolls. Sorry, we're back with Tom Hudson.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, not yet, so I'll trying to sort that out.
I can't figure out why this is doing. Thanks Ruder.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We're back with Tom Hudson. Who's right across Canada.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
No, Jerry, just not quiet.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Thanks for joining us. Here's Tom Hudson, who's on the
line now, who's canoeing right across Canada?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Hang on and joining us?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now joining us live from Canada. Now is Tom Hudson. Tom,
How are you?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
What in the world? Underscore? Tom says Instagram. Oh, here
we go, joins us.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Now, here we go, Here we go. We might be
getting somewhere here. Tom can you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Hear us, mate, I can hear you now live from
Canada's Tom Hudson. How are you, Tom Hudson? How are you?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
More importantly, I'm not too bad.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Have you been in the canoe today?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Not today.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I've arrived in a town. So every time I get
to a town it's like resupply time, you know. So
I've got to get all recharge all my gear and yeah,
resupply food and what.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I always have to have a couple of days.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
What what type of canoe are you in?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
H Well, I mean it's called a prospect of seventeen.
It's a seventeen foot like open Oh yeah, kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Been in the prospect of sixteen? I just I just
looked at the prospector and I said, the seventeen.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, I've canuded in an eighteen before. You might
want to look at an eighteen. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well I've never canuted. This is the first time I've
canuoned in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So, oh yeah, have you.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Got have you got this? Have you got the skirt
or is it open?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
No? I got the skirt.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You got the skirt?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, you're not down on one knee like they do
at the Olympos so.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, no, I probably should have it on stages though.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, because that is that is sort of a that
area of the world type canoeing, isn't it that one
knee down? What's that canoe?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I think I think only when you're going through rapids
and things. I think you do that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, So the question, Tom Hudson is why why are
you canoeing across Canada?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
A good question.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, It's something that I actually asked myself that regularly.
I actually underestimated this. I think, you know, it's a
freaking long way, and yeah, I'm questioning myself. I just
thought a few years ago it was a great idea,
you know, a few years ago I heard that you
could do it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, And like I said.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I've never commuted my life, and you know, I've been
traveling for a while now.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And a few years ago I walked across Spain.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I did the it's called the Community Santiago and I
did that, and then when I finished that, I just thought,
I want to do more experiences like that, you know,
life changing, get to the end and be a kind
of be a different person, you know, be a better person.
So this popped up and I just kind of ran
out of excuses. I just found myself organizing it slowly,
and then I had a number of excuses not to
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do it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So I just went for it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And have you become a better person?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I think?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
So I'm learning a lot. I'm learning a lot about myself,
you know. Like, like I said, I've never commuted my life.
I've never seen a beer in my life. I've never
seen a moose, I've never seen a wolf, and now
I'm just out here on my own in the wilderness,
like experiencing it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You know what's interesting. That's interesting time because I've just
I just didn't drink this weekend and I've been showing
off already. I show what a bit of person I
am for just not drinking for three three days. So yeah,
so yeah, how long does it take to canoe across Canada?
So I'm looking here at says two years?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, yeah, I mean you could do it over one year,
but obviously Canada seasonal, so I guess like minus forty
oh years in the winter, so.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
It gets to a point where you just can't.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
So yeah, I was that was the goal originally, but
I do have to do it over two years because
of that reason.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
And so how much of us in the water and
how much how often do you have to do you
stop in towns or do you is it periods where
you have to get it on a on a on
land transport.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
No, it's I mean there's the second half of it
coming up. There's going to be a lot it's called
portaging when you when you walk the canoe and there,
so there's a lot of portage in coming up. But
the first half, like I started in the Rocky Mountains
and I've gone I've now done to almost two and
a half thousand kilometers that I haven't needed to portage
year it. Oh oh wow, there's been a couple like
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a couple of dams that you've got to get around.
So yeah, but coming up is going to be like
when you get into the Great Lakes of Canada, there's
a lot of you know, you've got to walk from
one lake to the next and carry all your gear.
So yeah, I'm a bit worried about that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
When you do that, do you have to pretend to
pedal at the same time, So, say you're in a car,
do you have to lean out the window with your
pedal and pretend that you're propelling yourself along, I.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Think you do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To be official, Yeah, you're running into any waterfalls, tom,
because when I look up the Rocky Mountains, the first
thing I see is this mess of terrifying waterfall.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
No, I haven't had any waterfalls.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I've gone through some pretty heavy rapids at the beginning,
because like I said, I'd never can out my life.
And where I started was where the where the water
comes out of the glacier, so freezing cold, moving fast
through you know, the rocky mountains. I had these huge
mountains either side of me, just way out of my
comfort zone and just went for it, and I, you know,
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I capsized pretty pretty good. And and yeah, sort of
learned pretty quick though. You know, you learn from those mistakes,
and that's sort of the whole point of what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
But as far as waterfalls, no rapids. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I did a bit of a canoeing myself on the
Hanganui River. And what I realized when I was doing
that was headwinds. Headwinds on a canoe are a real bitch.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Oh, I've just I've trust me. I've gone through.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
My first six weeks of this trip was a nightmare
and absolutely Naman. I was in every thunderstorm, winds just
coming your headwinds and there's I'm like I said, I'm
it's my My canow is seventeen foot and so it's
a tandem canoe and I'm paddling it on my own.
So as soon as that wind, it's the it's the bow.
It just it spins me around a circle some time.
Half the time, it's easy just to go down backwards
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when there's no rapids, you know, just like just give
in and just go down backwards.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I see, I know what you're up to now, Tom.
So you've got a tandem canoe and you're traveling across
Canada and uh there's room and they canoe for another person.
And as this part of the worry, what you're looking
for is this, are you hoping to get a partner?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
No.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Before the trip, a bunch of people said, I'll come,
you know, I'll come and join you for a week
or two. You know, no worries, but you know where
are they now? I'm stuck with a tandem.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Do you remember that movie shot in New Zealand without
a paddle?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Oh it rings a bell?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So there's there's a movie shot in New Zealand without
a paddle, and it was purporting to be in Canada
that was shot and our it was shot on our
and our rivers.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Okay, yeah, yeah, have you seen the movie Deliverance?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, yeah, yeah, I have you?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Have you seen any situations since you've been traveling because Canada?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
No, Well, I think I am that person, you know,
so right, I met anyone out there, so I think
they come see me coming with the ukulele and probably
just scram.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Are you playing goodling ding ding dinging?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Pretty much? I might as well be.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And so are you having moments where you go like
you were sort of saying that just before, of course,
but are you having moments where you go I wouldn't
mind just sort of packing up and flying home. Or
is it so inspirational or making such a bitter person
that you you don't you don't get No, it is
seriously close to that.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I mean, I'm nowhere they're quitting.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But there's definitely been once or twice that I've that
I've questioned, like what am I doing this? Like, you know,
I imagine what other people are doing and at home,
comfortable eating dinner around the table, and I'm on my
own in the middle of the lake, you know, like
sixty klimeter winds, and there's nowhere to go, And I
just pulled myself into the reeds. And one night I
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spent the night in a bunch of reeds for sixteen hours,
just not even an island, not even land, Like I
couldn't set up my tent because it was no land,
and I spent sixteen hours just in the middle of
his reeds. Wow, it's moments. It's moments like that when
I was like what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And did you what are you eating? And when you
know you're talking about people sitting aund dinner at home,
what are you eating in the in the can, sitting
in the rose for sixteen hours.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Dehydrated food, not proutine, no, no, no boiling water just
just add boiling water food.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So you're spending a lot of time on your own obviously.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, the whole time. But like you go to town,
yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Because I interviewed Andrew Fagan the other day and he
was he's talking about a sailing he did forty days
and forty nights sailing out at sea in his boat
by himself, Swirly world Boat, and he said, seeing humans
again is intoxicating when you haven't seen them for a
long time. Did you find that you Are you scared
of humans? Are you just freaking great to see them?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Ah, not scared of humans.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But it's definitely in your face, Like when I get
to a city after being out in nature for you know,
it could be a couple of weeks, could be you know,
I don't know. It's just suddenly you hear the sirens,
you see the homelessness, you see like especially here in Canada,
it's pretty bad actually in some of the cities, you know,
the drug use and things, you know, and it's but
suddenly it's like in your face, you know, I can't
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unsee it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
My uncle lived on a remote island for a long
time with some people, and he said the first thing
he noticed when he ran into people again was how
perfumed they were. He was like everyone, he said, everyone
really stinks of under armdiota and perfume and stuff. You
haven't noticed that. Are you smelling? You wouldn't be smelling great.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I smelled. No, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Mesh.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, my clothes.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I have to wear my clothes for about three days
before before swapping.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh yeah, now, Mesh, really wanted to ask this question,
and he said to me, I really got a question
that I want to ask Tom, but made up. But
I don't ask that question. Don't ask that question, Mash.
So this is this is not me that's asking this question.
This is our twenty five year old producer and turn
Mesh that wants to know this. But is there time
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to work out a nature? Have you got enough time
to do that sort of thing? Or are you are
you not focused on that?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
On what? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
On a nature? Oh, you know, I mean a lot
of time by yourself.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Tom, that's right. But I think what I'm doing is
a well you know that's true. I see what I'm
doing is probably the most least kind of sexual thing.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, it's honestly not even on the forefront of my mind.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, too busy surviving out. You got bitter things to
worry about. And that's why.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Sixteen hours in the reads, there's plenty of time.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
To That's why I wouldn't have asked a question that.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Was terrible front now though terrible question to even think about,
shall we believe?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
For Tom of this Dunie?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
So, Tom, how do people follow you on your journeys.
What in the world it's underscore.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Tom, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yes, I've got a YouTube channel that i'm that I
post every Saturday. It is a new episode comes up
on the journey. So yeah, it's called what in the World. Well,
Saturday US.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Time, so it'll be Sunday New Zealand time, Sunday mornings. Yeah,
what in the world?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
What?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
What in the world? Underscore?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Tom?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, if you just put one in the world awesome. Hey, well,
all the best with this monumental journey that I can't
even imagine even attending. And just think when you finished,
you'll feel great.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
That's right, I will. Yeah, just having me on.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Thanks Tom, Thanks Tom, see you mate. Cheers Tom Hudson.
He's paeddling solo across Canada and a canoe.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well, it was going well until you made up that
question from Mesh. What was that?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Jery? Fuck?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Was this guy that's peddling hiss across candidate exactly? And
now everyone's thinking and he's just got has wang around.
He's just jerking off to the scenery.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Let's be honest. It's just an opportunity to wink.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You can do that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You can do that anywhere. You don't need to go
to Canada and get a buddy at like a canoe.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You can just do.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's a question on everyone's lips. Look, I asked the
questions that everybody wants to know, that wants to ask,
but it's too scared to ask.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Maddie mvpter today, mate, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, well it's just every now and then you got
to ring some pertionalism.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, we needed that today. We needed that.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You don't even understand the word. You can't even understand
the word.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No, I can't. I can't understand what the hell are
you talking about? What promusialism? Everyone knows well, I do, mass,
I understand ruder, can hear it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
But you don't even understand the word professionalism.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Map Okay, all right, I asked the questions. I write
the soleness that make the young girls cry, all right,
I write the songs. I write the songs.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
You stop writing the young girls. Anthony Keats is writing
the songs that make the angels cry. You stay away
from there, all right?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
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Speaker 3 (23:05):
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Speaker 1 (23:15):
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I don't know if you can subscribe to that. Either
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Speaker 2 (23:21):
This is your doing some moment, doesn't youtubel nature nawink
dot com.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Okay, okay, all right, okay, seem busy.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We've got to record there you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I've lost I've lost all ability to do anything I
have to.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I've got a massive and I've got none. I've got
alcohol for a lethargia my brain.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think you're mistaken me for someone who gives an.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I can't. I'm out, I'm giving up. I've lost my confidence. Okay,
I'm tired. I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I want to go home.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Come on, what of it? Something used to give that
so much for a while that you were really getting
into it. Now you've just you've gone off the boil.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I didn't drink this weekend. I've got a weird chemical
imbalance doing.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You should be going better than you should have a
lot of energy if.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You did not booze.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The weekend was just so long.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're obsessed, You're addicted.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I'm obst and addicted. But I think, I think, I
think that your body, if you if you're used to
having a few on Friday and maybe a couple on Saturday,
your body must produce a bunch of chemicals to try
and offset that. And so when you take the booze away,
your body's still going. Here we go, okay, bating the hatches.
We're in for a massive poisons. Okay, here we go.
You know, like say, if like a tornado was about
(01:03):
to hit and you sort of batten up the house
and hide in the basement, That's what my body's doing,
waiting for the alcohol. Echa doesn't come, and the body's
like over compensating for it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, it's got ready with it's got ready for
the demons. Yeah, that's right. And when the demons never came,
so all the windows are battened up. And but I mean,
I think it's just it's demons for you. It's just
the demons. You just didn't have any demons anything. What's
missing in my life? It's demons.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It's the drama.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yep. People love about a drama.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That's the one thing about booze that it does give
you is because I gave up drinking for a year.
Remember that time to drink for a year. Yeah, And
I did notice that my life was just so organized
and I was just achieving at such a high level
and I wasn't making any mistakes and I wasn't doing
anything stupid. And then I was just you know, there's
no more admin to do around the house. There's nothing
to fix, nothing to paint, yeah, no, nothing to take
(01:53):
to the dump, nothing to apologize for. Yeah, just quite
a lot of money in my bank account.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
That was.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah. I find that, I find that I know exactly
what you're talking about. It's too boring for me, that's
too boring. But it's much better to walk the tightrope. Yeah,
But you can walk the tightrope by drinking and seeing
if you can just get to the if you can
just get the benefits for that, getting the without getting
the negative, that's the challenge. That's the challenge for me.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, I watched this on the weekend because normally I
meet my friends for lunch on a Saturday and we'll
have a few drinks at the morning side tavern. And
I had a friend that arrived and she had a glass,
just one glass of wine, you just have one. And
then I saw her have another because I was just
on the no sugar cokes. And then she was in
and everyone was in, and so that that one hour
(02:41):
you have with your friends just talking, you can go
on a no sugar coke, but then you end up
being pulled into just the drinking side of it. And
then I went off and did some Edmund. About four
hours later, I was walking past the same bar carrying
some couch cushions that I'd bought and I locked in
and they were still I mean, the thing I'm I
did by a couch cushions, you know, I did spend
(03:03):
a stupid amount of money anyway, and I'm walking past
them like, oh, they've been dragged in and now they're
just fucking steamed.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
At the bar.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know you'll never do You'll never buy couch cushions drunk.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now, you wouldn't. That's not on your mind. Couch cushions
aren't on your mind when you're on the steam.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No, And that's some people say that it's a positive.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I think I dozed off there for a sec.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
We wake up.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Sorry, you gotta get back on the booze, mate. I
need some stories come Monday morning. I can't be sitting
hear hearing about couch cushions being purchased on a Monday morning.
And during the podcasta he spoke mate.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I also bought things that lifted like this new I
built a buffet. Oh tell me about that buff A buffet, Marie.
A buffet like a furniture thing called a buffet, which
is just something you put in your lounge that you
can keep stuffing.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
What does it look like a kind of looks like
a long cabinet.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And I had the word buffet sideboard.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
It's kind of like a TV cabinet, but it's not
for that, it's for keeping stuff. And anyway, brought a buffet,
and because I was so by went and bought like
little things to put under the feet of it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh nice, see, I'm happy with that person.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's some dis when you go so much time on
your hands, because I'm sure people would love to know
where you got those from. I got.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I mean, but can you delete that? I got them
from bugs?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You know what I want? Delete it? Yeah, were confused?
I got that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I got them, don't I think? Delete the questions?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I got that from sucking Bunnings, mate, delete the whole
a little bit from the start and we're back. And
speaking of Bunnings, there's a new bunny at my other
house called Gordon, and my son comes down. I've just
brought them a really expensive laptop and he goes, Bloody,
Apple products don't work, do they. I said, well, they're
actually very reliable that products. And what I've brought you
(04:59):
there very expensive commuter. So what are you saying? And
he goes, well, it doesn't charge anymore. And then I
look at the cable. Bloody, Gordon's eating through the charging cable.
Gordon the rabbit.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Why did Gordon want to eat the cook cable? Tasting
a rabbit will train in, don't yuck as yum. Come on, Jerry, mate,
you like weird things. I'm gonna yuck as yum, I
don't yack your yums. Yeah, but he's a he's a rabbit,
and he does have a human name, but he's a rabbit.
Gordon Gordon. He's probably not happy about his name. That's
the problem he's getting getting one back.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You're always yacking my yums.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, now you're yucking my dad's name Gordon. So yeah, Kendy, Yeah,
it was the rabbit named after it. Yeah, because my
dad goes at it like.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
A bunny, like a rabbit. He said, he's produced two children.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
He goes at it like a rabbit. You know what's
a great name for this rabbits? Dad? All right?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Called Gordon Gordon?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Or is he Gordy? He's always Gordy, man, I think Gordy?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, well I'm starting to abbreviate Gordon to Gordion.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Call him big g the g spot, Yeah, g spot.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
People do call him the gum?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Do they call him g Lane?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Not as much anymore? No, not g Lane.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Call him Go for.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Gordon, Go for Gordon. And your roofers looking good?
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Noki gave for Gordon. Name your roofers looking good? Tell
you I won't have a word. Whoever did that a
with Joed. You've got bloody You've got one of the
greatest sons singers in New Zealand history, John Roles. There,
and you've only got so long on a thirty second ad.
You can to waste some of that singing time by
getting a little kid that can't sing. That's stupid. You
(06:47):
got the purely beautiful pipes of John Rolls for Gerard
and your roofers looking good.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
That's the whole thing is like, you've got the contrast.
You got the contrast of the girl who am not.
Then they that girl was a terrible singer. It's not
like they got a girl with a good voice and there's
been lots of little kids out there with actually that
can sing. She has a terrible singer, and they got
the that's the contrast.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I'm just gonna put a picture of a.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
He's not with us anymore, John Rose.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And here is he with us, John Rose, John Rolls.
If you are with us now making knocking door noise,
you're trying to run us.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It's still with us, John Rolls.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, there's no point. He's a buffet. Guys, just put
it in the dock.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
If you put a picture of a buffet in the
dark for a buffet geese? Where is it?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Did John Rolls have children? Yes, there's two sounds down and.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Be like, oh that it's like a yeah, a side table.
This is a storage nice that's quite large. Does that
go in like a hallway or something?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You put it in?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It looks like they should be a mirror above it
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Someone's moved down and a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh yeah, your house could do that. It was something
to look like the house from Heat.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Okay, I understand that we will go about to go
live to Canada.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Apparently, I'm just trying to fight this.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Tom Hudson Sailing canoe and adventure around the World. Tom
Hudson has been peddling solo and a canoe right across Canada.
You just getting a pronuncation right then.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I'm trying to correct you. Yeah, Canada.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Interesting. I didn't know there was a river that went
all the way across. Well, I think you check the
canoe on the back of a truck at something.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
You know, kicking these things.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Canado is a big place.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It is massive. I imagine that he's doing it in
summer because you wouldn't want to do it in winter
that will be frozen up.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
He saved a dog recently?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Did he?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Can he hear us.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Look into thinking thinking, okay, girl, get another one. Get
someone cast out a little bit wider? Were they?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh Jesus, is this a is this a teams meeting? Oh?
This is a team's meaning? Everybody?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Sorry, sorry, sorry joined the meeting.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Now's take a break and we'll be back with John
Rolls in just a moment.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Tom Hudson.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Oh, sorry, Tom Hudson. Just a moment, Hudson and Hudson
and Rolls. Sorry, we're back with Tom Hudson.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, not yet, so I'll trying to sort that out.
I can't figure out why this is doing. Thanks Ruder.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We're back with Tom Hudson. Who's right across Canada.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
No, Jerry, just not quiet.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Thanks for joining us. Here's Tom Hudson, who's on the
line now, who's canoeing right across Canada?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Hang on and joining us?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Now joining us live from Canada. Now is Tom Hudson. Tom,
How are you?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
What in the world? Underscore? Tom says Instagram. Oh, here
we go, joins us.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Now, here we go, Here we go. We might be
getting somewhere here. Tom can you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Hear us, mate, I can hear you now live from
Canada's Tom Hudson. How are you, Tom Hudson? How are you?
Speaker 5 (10:26):
More importantly, I'm not too bad.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Have you been in the canoe today?
Speaker 4 (10:32):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Not today.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
I've arrived in a town. So every time I get
to a town it's like resupply time, you know. So
I've got to get all recharge all my gear and yeah,
resupply food and what.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I always have to have a couple of days.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
What what type of canoe are you in?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
H Well, I mean it's called a prospect of seventeen.
It's a seventeen foot like open Oh yeah, kind of yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Been in the prospect of sixteen? I just I just
looked at the prospector and I said, the seventeen.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, I've canuded in an eighteen before. You might
want to look at an eighteen. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Well I've never canuted. This is the first time I've
canuoned in my life.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So, oh yeah, have you.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Got have you got this? Have you got the skirt
or is it open?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
No? I got the skirt.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You got the skirt?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, you're not down on one knee like they do
at the Olympos so.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
Yeah, no, I probably should have it on stages though.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, because that is that is sort of a that
area of the world type canoeing, isn't it that one
knee down? What's that canoe?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I think I think only when you're going through rapids
and things. I think you do that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, So the question, Tom Hudson is why why are
you canoeing across Canada?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
A good question.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah, It's something that I actually asked myself that regularly.
I actually underestimated this. I think, you know, it's a
freaking long way, and yeah, I'm questioning myself. I just
thought a few years ago it was a great idea,
you know, a few years ago I heard that you
could do it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah, And like I said.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I've never commuted my life, and you know, I've been
traveling for a while now.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And a few years ago I walked across Spain.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I did the it's called the Community Santiago and I
did that, and then when I finished that, I just thought,
I want to do more experiences like that, you know,
life changing, get to the end and be a kind
of be a different person, you know, be a better person.
So this popped up and I just kind of ran
out of excuses. I just found myself organizing it slowly,
and then I had a number of excuses not to
(12:32):
do it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
So I just went for it.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And have you become a better person?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I think?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
So I'm learning a lot. I'm learning a lot about myself,
you know. Like, like I said, I've never commuted my life.
I've never seen a beer in my life. I've never
seen a moose, I've never seen a wolf, and now
I'm just out here on my own in the wilderness,
like experiencing it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
You know what's interesting. That's interesting time because I've just
I just didn't drink this weekend and I've been showing
off already. I show what a bit of person I
am for just not drinking for three three days. So yeah,
so yeah, how long does it take to canoe across Canada?
So I'm looking here at says two years?
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, yeah, I mean you could do it over one year,
but obviously Canada seasonal, so I guess like minus forty
oh years in the winter, so.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
It gets to a point where you just can't.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
So yeah, I was that was the goal originally, but
I do have to do it over two years because
of that reason.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
And so how much of us in the water and
how much how often do you have to do you
stop in towns or do you is it periods where
you have to get it on a on a on
land transport.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
No, it's I mean there's the second half of it
coming up. There's going to be a lot it's called
portaging when you when you walk the canoe and there,
so there's a lot of portage in coming up. But
the first half, like I started in the Rocky Mountains
and I've gone I've now done to almost two and
a half thousand kilometers that I haven't needed to portage
year it. Oh oh wow, there's been a couple like
(14:02):
a couple of dams that you've got to get around.
So yeah, but coming up is going to be like
when you get into the Great Lakes of Canada, there's
a lot of you know, you've got to walk from
one lake to the next and carry all your gear.
So yeah, I'm a bit worried about that.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
When you do that, do you have to pretend to
pedal at the same time, So, say you're in a car,
do you have to lean out the window with your
pedal and pretend that you're propelling yourself along, I.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Think you do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To be official, Yeah, you're running into any waterfalls, tom,
because when I look up the Rocky Mountains, the first
thing I see is this mess of terrifying waterfall.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
No, I haven't had any waterfalls.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I've gone through some pretty heavy rapids at the beginning,
because like I said, I'd never can out my life.
And where I started was where the where the water
comes out of the glacier, so freezing cold, moving fast
through you know, the rocky mountains. I had these huge
mountains either side of me, just way out of my
comfort zone and just went for it, and I, you know,
(15:03):
I capsized pretty pretty good. And and yeah, sort of
learned pretty quick though. You know, you learn from those mistakes,
and that's sort of the whole point of what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
But as far as waterfalls, no rapids. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I did a bit of a canoeing myself on the
Hanganui River. And what I realized when I was doing
that was headwinds. Headwinds on a canoe are a real bitch.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Oh, I've just I've trust me. I've gone through.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
My first six weeks of this trip was a nightmare
and absolutely Naman. I was in every thunderstorm, winds just
coming your headwinds and there's I'm like I said, I'm
it's my My canow is seventeen foot and so it's
a tandem canoe and I'm paddling it on my own.
So as soon as that wind, it's the it's the bow.
It just it spins me around a circle some time.
Half the time, it's easy just to go down backwards
(15:53):
when there's no rapids, you know, just like just give
in and just go down backwards.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I see, I know what you're up to now, Tom.
So you've got a tandem canoe and you're traveling across
Canada and uh there's room and they canoe for another person.
And as this part of the worry, what you're looking
for is this, are you hoping to get a partner?
Speaker 4 (16:11):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
No.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
Before the trip, a bunch of people said, I'll come,
you know, I'll come and join you for a week
or two. You know, no worries, but you know where
are they now? I'm stuck with a tandem.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Do you remember that movie shot in New Zealand without
a paddle?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Oh it rings a bell?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
So there's there's a movie shot in New Zealand without
a paddle, and it was purporting to be in Canada
that was shot and our it was shot on our
and our rivers.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Okay, yeah, yeah, have you seen the movie Deliverance?
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, yeah, yeah, I have you?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Have you seen any situations since you've been traveling because Canada?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
No, Well, I think I am that person, you know,
so right, I met anyone out there, so I think
they come see me coming with the ukulele and probably
just scram.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Are you playing goodling ding ding dinging?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Pretty much? I might as well be.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
And so are you having moments where you go like
you were sort of saying that just before, of course,
but are you having moments where you go I wouldn't
mind just sort of packing up and flying home. Or
is it so inspirational or making such a bitter person
that you you don't you don't get No, it is
seriously close to that.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I mean, I'm nowhere they're quitting.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
But there's definitely been once or twice that I've that
I've questioned, like what am I doing this? Like, you know,
I imagine what other people are doing and at home,
comfortable eating dinner around the table, and I'm on my
own in the middle of the lake, you know, like
sixty klimeter winds, and there's nowhere to go, And I
just pulled myself into the reeds. And one night I
(17:53):
spent the night in a bunch of reeds for sixteen hours,
just not even an island, not even land, Like I
couldn't set up my tent because it was no land,
and I spent sixteen hours just in the middle of
his reeds. Wow, it's moments. It's moments like that when
I was like what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
And did you what are you eating? And when you
know you're talking about people sitting aund dinner at home,
what are you eating in the in the can, sitting
in the rose for sixteen hours.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Dehydrated food, not proutine, no, no, no boiling water just
just add boiling water food.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
So you're spending a lot of time on your own obviously.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Yeah, the whole time. But like you go to town,
yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Because I interviewed Andrew Fagan the other day and he
was he's talking about a sailing he did forty days
and forty nights sailing out at sea in his boat
by himself, Swirly world Boat, and he said, seeing humans
again is intoxicating when you haven't seen them for a
long time. Did you find that you Are you scared
of humans? Are you just freaking great to see them?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Ah, not scared of humans.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
But it's definitely in your face, Like when I get
to a city after being out in nature for you know,
it could be a couple of weeks, could be you know,
I don't know. It's just suddenly you hear the sirens,
you see the homelessness, you see like especially here in Canada,
it's pretty bad actually in some of the cities, you know,
the drug use and things, you know, and it's but
suddenly it's like in your face, you know, I can't
(19:14):
unsee it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
My uncle lived on a remote island for a long
time with some people, and he said the first thing
he noticed when he ran into people again was how
perfumed they were. He was like everyone, he said, everyone
really stinks of under armdiota and perfume and stuff. You
haven't noticed that. Are you smelling? You wouldn't be smelling great.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I smelled. No, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Mesh.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, my clothes.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
I have to wear my clothes for about three days
before before swapping.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh yeah, now, Mesh, really wanted to ask this question,
and he said to me, I really got a question
that I want to ask Tom, but made up. But
I don't ask that question. Don't ask that question, Mash.
So this is this is not me that's asking this question.
This is our twenty five year old producer and turn
Mesh that wants to know this. But is there time
(20:05):
to work out a nature? Have you got enough time
to do that sort of thing? Or are you are
you not focused on that?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
On what? Sorry?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
On a nature? Oh, you know, I mean a lot
of time by yourself.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Tom, that's right. But I think what I'm doing is
a well you know that's true. I see what I'm
doing is probably the most least kind of sexual thing.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, it's honestly not even on the forefront of my mind.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, too busy surviving out. You got bitter things to
worry about. And that's why.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Sixteen hours in the reads, there's plenty of time.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
To That's why I wouldn't have asked a question that.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Was terrible front now though terrible question to even think about,
shall we believe?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
For Tom of this Dunie?
Speaker 3 (20:54):
So, Tom, how do people follow you on your journeys.
What in the world it's underscore.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Tom, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yes, I've got a YouTube channel that i'm that I
post every Saturday. It is a new episode comes up
on the journey. So yeah, it's called what in the World. Well,
Saturday US.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Time, so it'll be Sunday New Zealand time, Sunday mornings. Yeah,
what in the world?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
What?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
What?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
What in the world? Underscore?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Tom?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, if you just put one in the world awesome. Hey, well,
all the best with this monumental journey that I can't
even imagine even attending. And just think when you finished,
you'll feel great.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
That's right, I will. Yeah, just having me on.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Thanks Tom, Thanks Tom, see you mate. Cheers Tom Hudson.
He's paeddling solo across Canada and a canoe.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well, it was going well until you made up that
question from Mesh. What was that?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Jery? Fuck?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Was this guy that's peddling hiss across candidate exactly? And
now everyone's thinking and he's just got has wang around.
He's just jerking off to the scenery.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Let's be honest. It's just an opportunity to wink.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
You can do that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You can do that anywhere. You don't need to go
to Canada and get a buddy at like a canoe.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You can just do.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's a question on everyone's lips. Look, I asked the
questions that everybody wants to know, that wants to ask,
but it's too scared to ask.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Maddie mvpter today, mate, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, well it's just every now and then you got
to ring some pertionalism.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, we needed that today. We needed that.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
You don't even understand the word. You can't even understand
the word.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No, I can't. I can't understand what the hell are
you talking about? What promusialism? Everyone knows well, I do, mass,
I understand ruder, can hear it.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
But you don't even understand the word professionalism.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Map Okay, all right, I asked the questions. I write
the soleness that make the young girls cry, all right,
I write the songs. I write the songs.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
You stop writing the young girls. Anthony Keats is writing
the songs that make the angels cry. You stay away
from there, all right?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
All right?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
All right, okay, you round anyway, like and subscribe our
Facebook page, YouTube channel is.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
We don't have one of those no face too page
I don't know if you can subscribe to that. Either
YouTube channel is nature.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
This is your doing some moment, doesn't youtubel nature nawink
dot com.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Okay, okay, all right, okay, seem busy.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
We've got to record there you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I've lost I've lost all ability to do anything I
have to.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I've got a massive and I've got none. I've got
alcohol for a lethargia my brain.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I think you're mistaken me for someone who gives an.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
I can't. I'm out, I'm giving up. I've lost my confidence. Okay,
I'm tired. I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I want to go home.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Hello, I'm Matt Heath. You have been listening to the
Matt and Jerry Daily Bespoke podcast. Right now you can
listen to our Radio Highlights podcast, which you will absolutely
get barred up about anyway. Sit to download, like, subscribe, write,
review all those great things. It really helps myself and
Jerry and to a lesser extent, Mess and Ruder. If
you want to discuss anything raised in this pod, check
(24:26):
out the Conclave, a Matt and Jerry Facebook discussion group.
And while I'm plugging stuff, my book A Lifeless Punishing
Thirteen Ways to love the life you've got is out
now get it wherever you get your books, or just
google the bastard. Anyway you seem busy, I'll let you go.
Bless blessed, blessed. Give them a taste of key we
from me.
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