Rod Arquette Show: How Migrant Crisis is Overwhelming Public Schools in D.C.; Ten Times the "Defund the Police" Movement Backfired

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Always great to be with you onthis Thank Rod is Friday. If you
want to be a part of theprogram eight eight eight five seven eight zero
one zero triple eight five seven eightzero one zero, or on your cell
phone dial pound two fifteen and sayhey Rod. Now I want to start
off today with what we like tocall the Friday Favorite Story, And this
is my Friday Favorite story today.Just when you think, just when you

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think the Democrat socialist utopia state ofCalifornia cannot sink any lower, it does
just that already. First it wasremember this story. I'm not sure if
this is still going on, butmy guess is it is that the it
was catalytic converters that were being offstolen off cars. Remember that you heard

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stories about that. Well, guesswhat's happening now in California. People are
stealing fire hydrants. Yeah, youknow those big red yellow things set on
the side of the road. Accordingto a reporter in a California the state
Water company, a state water companyhas reported to a growing frenzy of fire

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hydrant thefts in Los Angeles. Andwhat they're doing is they're installing locked shields
to cover the bolts on hydrants.To stop the thieves. It's gotten that
bad in California, where they're nowstealing fire hydrants. The Golden State Water
Company, which owns and operates thefire hydrant, says thefts now open daily,

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are now happened daily, I shouldsay, especially in South la which
is one of the impoverished communities wherethefts are extremely high, and two of
the most recent believed to have happenedlast Thursday without a neighbors even realizing this.
That's right, without aiding neighbors realizinghim. One person who's quoted as

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saying, it's mind boggling that someonewould just come into a neighborhood and steal
a fire hydrant. I'm not surewhat you do with a fire hydrant,
but apparently they steal them. Andyou're right, the official says. You
know, look, folks, yousteal fire hydrants. It's a danger to

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the community, and it really is. Unfortunately, we have one just across
the street from our home. Thecompany has been sending out replacements, typically
the same day they're reported stolen,each one costing about thirty five hundred dollars.
It's not clear what their value ison the black market. The total
cost of all those stolen hydrants andso far this year has added up to

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one point two million dollars. Whyon earth is anybody seeking to steal fire
hydrants? Now, a couple ofother stories I want to get to as
we open up the show today.You know, there was good news some
people would say good news today aboutthe jobs report. At a glance,
the Labor Department's initial initial non farmpayroll jobs report appears to be favorable.

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Two hundred and seventy two thousand newjobs added in May, which notably beat
analysts expectations by nearly one hundred thousandjobs. Not the full story, and
you have to learn to be ableto dig in and see what's going on.
But here is some of the details. Well, the top line number
looks great. The discrepancy between parttime and full time workers continues to diverge.

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Part Time employment went up by twohundred and eighty six thousand jobs part
time employment, while full time employmentwent down by six hundred and twenty five
thousand jobs, marking the largest dropin what about six months. Government employee
here we go, folks. Governmentcontinues to grow government employment the second largest

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contributor behind healthcare to the new jobscreed. Now here's what's important. The
unemployment rate jumped for the first timesince January percent and the markets today and
we're down today, and that callsinto question the health of the broader US
labor market. Reaction. Morgan Stanleysaid, we think the Fed will see

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the rise in the unemployment rate asa sign of further slackening in the labor
market, which is not good news. So you have to understand the numbers.
But you know, the on thesurface top line, everything looks good.
You dig deeper, maybe not sogood. Now here's an interesting story,
and you tell me if you thinkthis is plagiarism. Joe Biden,

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you know what was one or twotimes his run for the White House was
derailed by reports of plagiarism. Inone, of course, I think his
first venture into running for the WhiteHouse, it was found that he was
plagiarizing a speech given by some guyin Britain and it basically sank his campaign.
Now Joe Biden today still over inEurope for the eightieth anniversary of the

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commemoration of the invasion that took placeon D Day. Basically, you know,
gave a speech today at the exactlocation where Ronald Reagan did forty years
ago on the fortieth anniversary of theD Day invasion, and he gave one
of his most famous talks. I'mtalking about Reagan. So the task for
Biden today was to deliver another stirringspeech. Well, I want you to

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listen closely to the comparisons between whatRonald Reagan said four years ago and what
Joe Biden said today, And youtell me if you think this is plagiarism.
Last the hourd come dawn sixth ofJune nineteen forty four. At dawn
on the morning of the sixth ofJune nineteen forty four, two hundred and

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twenty five American rangers arrived by ship, jumped into the waves and stormed the
beach. Two hundred and twenty fiverangers jumped off the British landing craft and
ran to the bottom of these cliffs, gunfire them, but still they kept
coming. Nazi grenades thrown from abow exploded against the cliffs, but still

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they kept coming. The rangers lookedup and saw the enemy soldiers the edge
of the cliffs shooting down at themwith machine guns and throwing grenades, and
the American rangers began to climb.They launched their ladders, the ropes and
grappling hooks, and they began toclimb. They shot rope ladders over the
face of these cliffs and began topull themselves up. When the Nazis cut

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their ladders, the rangers used theropes. When the Nazis cut their ropes,
the rangers used their hands. Whenone ranger fell, another would take
his place. When one rope wascut, a ranger would grab another and
begin his climb again. An inchby inch, foot by foot, yard

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by yard, the rangers clawed.They clawed their way up this mighty press,
until the last they reached the top. Soon, one by one,
the rangers pulled themselves over the top. They breached sisters Atlantic wall, and
they turned, and that one effortthe tide of the war. It began

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to save the world. And inseizing the firm land at the top of
these cliffs, they began to seizeback the continent of Europe. Now you
tell me now. That was puttogether by Clay Travis of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. You mayhave heard that earlier today. Is it
plagiarism? You know the definition isn'tword for word. I should have looked

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that up today. But that comparisonI just think is rather interesting. I
mean, the Reagan speech was writtenby Peggy Noonan, who is now a
columnist at the Wall Street Journal.And Peggy Newman wrote in the Wall Street
Journal today about that speech that shewrote for Ronald Reagan, and she said

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it was a challenge given to herbecause those in the Reagan administration who gave
her the assignment to write that speechsaid, we want it to be like
Gettysburg. What a challenge that is, right, Abe Lincoln's two two and
a half minute speech at Gettysburg.That was the challenge. There was a
report out there as well that thatcame at a time, of course,

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when Ronald Reagan was running for reelection against Walter Mondale, the senator from
Minnesota. There are reports out therethat when members of Mondale staff heard this
speech given by Reagan, some ofthem started crying and one of them was
overheard saying that does it. Weare not going to win this election.
So how about the Joe Biden speechtoday? Hasn't moved anybody? Are people

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calling this a great speech? Youknow? It's fine? Kind of interesting
too. When you think about it, you know, speech writers are paid
by taxpayers. They're part of theWhite House administration. They are paid to
write speeches. And you would thinkthat those in the White House, the
Biden White House today would have beenleary as to what Ronald Reagan said forty
years ago, because I think inmany ways they're simply copying him. And

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I think that's what people are raisingquestions about today. Was it plagiarism.
You're going to have to decide that. But it's kind of interesting, isn't
it that those speeches in many aspectstoday sounded very very similar. All right?
Coming up here on the rodar arkKen Show. On this thank rodi
Is Friday will go to the borderand talk about how NGOs are facilitating mass

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illegal immigration into this country. You'llreport out on that today and we'll talk
about it. Great to have youalong for the ride as you work your
way into the weekend. If youwant to be a part of the discussion
today eight eight eight five seven eightzero one zero, or on your cell
phone dial pound two fifteen and sayhey Rod more The Rod Ark Kent Show
coming up on Talk Radio one ohfive nine KNRS Migrant families were flown to

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the US in late May after apparentlybeing processed the southern border, and whoever
sent them here left them unprepared oncethey got off the plane at the Salt
Lake International Airport. The Channel twois reporting the revelations. We're in an
email that Police Chief Mike Brown sentthroughout the department on May thirty first,
praising officers for their efforts and handlingthe challenging situation. Well. The NGOs,

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or non governmental agencies or offices asthey are known organizations, are apparently
heavily involved in facilitating mass immigration intothis country under the banner of religion.
Joining us on our newsmaker line totalk about that is Spencer Lindquist. He
is a reporter of The Daily Wire. Spencer, thanks for joining us on

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the show tonight. Spencer. Let'stalk about the NGOs, they're involvement in
illegal immigration and how much money they'regetting from the taxpayers. So, of
course, we're seeing an immigration crisisthat is truly unprecedented. I mean,
we've seen roughly ten million Lee immigrantscome into this country or are being encountered
by border authorities, and we've actuallyseen such a drastic spike that it's driven

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a new all time high in theforeign warrant population here in the United States,
and oftentimes in this conversation about immigration, we're looking at the policies put
forward by the Biden administration or theDepartment of Homeland Security. But there is
a litany of different organizations, manyof which operate as religious organizations that are
nonprofits, non governmental organizations NGOs,and they have a variety of different roles

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in the immigration process. Many ofthem engage in resettlement here within the country,
and others actually operate both within theUnited States and within South America effectively
offerating services that make it easier topipeline migrants from the various different countries in
South America all the way up tothe Rio Grande on America's doorstep here at

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home, Spencer, how closely arethe EFENDIO working with a Biden administration to
help illegal immigrants coming into this countryillegally? How much coordination is there between
the two, Well, there certainlyseems to be a pretty significant degree of
coordination. For example, we knowthat Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society that is one
of the largest organizations involved in thisand the Department of Homeland Security secretary all

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one hundred. Myriorchis was actually aprevious board member at Highest, so we
know that there is a very solidconnection there, and they've actually stuck up
from my Orcis as he's undergone hisimpeachment. They applauded his initial nominations when
he was first nominated for the rolethat he's currently in. And a lot
of these organizations, Highest being oneof them, actually receives federal taxpayer dollars.

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So we know that in the instanceof this organization, they've actually received
two hundred and forty million dollars oftaxpayer money in refugee and aid grants from
the State Department and from Health andHuman Services. So Highest is just one
of several organizations that engage in thesetypes of the engage in these activities to

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streamline migrants in the United States andthen resettle them once they're here, and
like many other organizations, it actuallyreceives federal dollars to do so. So
the American tax player who is upsetabout what's going on on the border,
their tax dollars are being used tofacilitate what's going on down on the border.
Is that fair to say, Spencer? I believe absolutely, you know,

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and the scope of these organizations thatof course differs depending on the one
that we're talking. So there's CatholicCharities USA, there is Church World Services,
there's Global Refuge which was formerly theLutheran Immigration and Refugee Service. But
some of them operate only within theUnited States, and others like HIGAS,

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which we discussed earlier, they actuallyoperate within some of these foreign countries.
So to put it a little bitof perspective, a lot of people are
coming here and they are claiming asylum, and of course that's the system that
it deals with a fair number offraudulent cases. But if somebody is coming
from Venezuela, for example, wherewe're seeing a lot of migrants come from

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currently, they actually have to passthrough seven different countries on their way to
the United States. And in thecase of HYAS, they are offering health
services down throughout that route. Imean even even right by the Darien Gap,
which is a very very dangerous landroute in Panama where many people die.

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They're helping people get prepped for thattrip and get through it. And
then you know, they're helping withlegal services for these asylum claims once they're
here, and there's several organizations thatdo this, and yeah, all of
them do receive this this taxpayer funding, which of course adds another degree,
you know, to the to thecomplexity of this issue. Once they're in

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this country, Spencer, and they'vecome through the border and they're now in
the United States, maybe waiting anasylum hearing, do the NGOs step in
and provide them with clothing, withfood, shelter, healthcare. What do
these NGOs do? So in somecases they do, in some cases they
offer housing assistance at least briefly.In many cases they offer resettlement. So

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this is how we've ended up withfor example, Catholicurities USA, they resettled
twelve thousand Afghan nationals in the UnitedStates in thirty six different states in twenty
twenty one alone, and of coursethey've been involved in resettling various different groups
of migrants as well. And oncethey're here, some of these organizations actually
give them just cash assistance, whichis exactly what it sounds like, effectively

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just giving them money. They resettlethem, they give a number of different
services, and many of them alsoprovide these legal services that effectively make it
harder for the United States government topotentially deport any of these foreign nationals that
have come into this country, andof course we've seen a record breaking number,
not even close under this administration.Let me ask you, Spencer,

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you're one of the few reporters who'vekind of dug into this. Why is
this story not being told more andmore to the American people? Because I
see this as another facet of thecrisis that is going on in the border.
They're getting help once they get here. Yeah, this is something that
I think a lot of people arefocused on immigration, but it's easy to

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look at this just through the lensof government policy when the reality. I've
been down to the border on threedifferent occasions in Texas and the reality is
that there is a well developed pipeline. Somebody then call it an industry for
bringing migrants first to our border andthen across our border. The Heritage Foundation
says that these organizations are engaged ina corrupt cycle of money changing where they're

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weaponizing migration against the United States.And we know that when it is so
prevalent to have these massive numbers ofpeople come into the country, we know
that the cartel's profit. I mean, I was down on the border,
and I was hearing from authorities inTexas and they're telling me that every time
that somebody comes to the border andattempts across from the United States, the

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cartel is getting ten thousand dollars,fifteen thousand, sometimes even up to fifty
thousand dollars per head for people thatthey smuggle through. And of course,
when you have various different services sometimesthat can add to the incentive for people
to attempt to come to this country. On our newsmaker line, Spencer,
thank you for joining us. SpencerLindquist, a field reporter the Daily Wire,

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talking about NGOs, non government organizations, and how they're profiting and facilitating
mass illegal immigration into this country.It is Friday, Thank god, it's
Friday. Right here on Utah's TalkRadio one oh five nine. Cannais more
coming up. Let's continue to focuson what is happening in America as a
result of illegal immigration into this country. Before the break, if you were

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listening, we had our conversation withSpencer Lindquist. He is a reporter of
the Daily Wire. He took alook at the NGOs. These are non
government organizations, most of them affiliatedwith various religions, in the country who
help facilitate illegal immigration by once theycross the border and get into the country,

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they are then aided by these NGOswho receive millions, if not billions
of taxpayer dollars to help these peopleout. It could be with clothing,
it could be with shelter, food, you name it. They're there to
help them out. So there areconcerns about these NGOs and if they're and
what they're doing when it comes toillegal immigration. Now, we have heard

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concerns from a lot of people inthis country, and we have examples of
it of these illegal immigrants who comeinto this country with a criminal record and
then commit crime here. We've alsoheard the impact has had on healthcare and
now on our schools. As amatter of fact, the migrants who have
come into the nation's capital, Washington, DC are now overwhelming public schools there.

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Joining us on our newsmaker line totalk more about it is Michelle Exner.
She is a senior advisor for theorganization called Parents Defending Freedom. Thank
you very much Michelle for joining usthis afternoon. How bad is it getting
when it comes to illegal immigrants andtheir children in public schools in the nation's
capital right, it's putting a tremendousamount of strain both on the teachers,

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the staff, the students, theresources. Right, And you mentioned the
DC story, but I just wantto make it clear to your listeners that
this is really just a small snapshotof what we're seeing in communities across the
country. And so when it comesto the DC story in particular, right,
we threw those emails that we gottheir public records requests the teachers having

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a dialogue and the staff saying they'reat capacity. We need more English Language
learner programs. We don't have theresource to accommodate this new influx and wave
of students coming in. And howare the schools dealing with it? I
mean, Michelle, what are theydoing? You know, I you know,

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and I feel for them, right, I mean our organization is there,
Yeah, we feel for them,And so I think this is one
of those instances, you know,there's things that sometimes, you know,
some teachers in schools are trying topush in classrooms that we don't agree with,
and we're trying to call it outhere. Right. We feel compassion
for these teachers in schools who haveto deal with the fallout of a federal

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government, right, the Biden administrationthat is failed to do its most basic
carried its basic responsibilities of protecting ourborder. I mean, this border crisis
isn't new, right, just becauseI think some of mainstream media has finally
started to pay attention, because thepolling shows that this is not a Republican
issue. This is an issue thatAmericans care about. But this it was

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considered a border crisis back in thespring of twenty twenty one, right,
And so here we are in twentytwenty four and basically nothing's happened. And
so the fact that now the schoolsand the cities, I mean, when
you have the mayor of New YorkCity basically saying we can't do this,
right, we don't have the Ithink they're spending billions of dollars on trying
to deal with it. The hotels, right, I just read an article

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I think in was Wall Street Journal. One in five hotels in New York
City are being used for migrants.Wow. And so right now, right,
it all comes down the common denominatoris that you've had federal government in
place that is failed catastrophically for thepast four years. I would think Michelle
for these teachers in these schools rightnow, the biggest issue, on top

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of the overcrowding has got to bethe language issue, because I would imagine
most of these kids are coming intothese schools and do not know how to
speak English. Absolutely. So there'sanother incense in Springfield, Massachusetts. I
personally moved through thousands of foiled documentsthere, right, and one there was
a request to get resources translated inseventeen different languages for parents of some of

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these students. And one teacher acknowledgedthat she needed to find so many translators
for parent teacher conferences that it's nowturned into a full time job. These
teachers didn't sign up for this.It's unfair to them. It's unfair to
all of the students, right,both the migrant and the students that are
the residents, the student residents thatlive there, right, the quality of

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education, especially when you consider thatthey're still trying to crawl their way out
of this education loss from school closures, and now there's this other crisis that
the federal government has thrown at them. And you know, and the answer
from the other side is typically andI know this because I sat in the
hearing this past Tuesday that Health Educationdid focusing on the chaos that has been

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reaped on schools because of Biden's bordercrisis. Right, what the argument that
you hear from the other side isthere is a mandate to take in these
students and teach them. But that'snot the argument here, Right, We're
not telling schools to turn students away. We're saying that this shouldn't be happening

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in the first place. Right.Even President Obama's head of DHS, when
President Obama's president said that a thousandmigrants to day would be a crisis.
I think now we're twenty five hundreda day, So what do you call
that? And beyond the crisis?And so for members on the other side
of the aisle, right, orfor member for certain lawmakers to say that

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there is no issue that schools shouldjust have to take have to deal with
this. No, absolutely not.They're trying the best they can. And
I noticed because I've read you theiremail exchanges. I feel for the teachers
who are just trying to take careof these new students that they're getting in.
But something has to be done,right, Yeah, so this can
it's not sustainable. Michelle, whatare the parents of the kids who were

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already in the school. They livein that community, They've been going to
these schools and all of a suddenthey see the pressure that has been put
on the classroom with overcrowding, thepressure being put on teachers. Are these
parents saying, how about our children? Are our children getting the education they
need or are they being slowed downby these immigrant kids coming into our schools?
What are the parents saying? Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely? And we

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heard, like I said, fromthat same hearing, there were three witnesses
that represented. One was a momfrom New York City. She had been
an immigrant herself, became a citizenthe legal way, and now she is
seeing how New York City sent thirtynine thousand dollars as students right probably the
most expensive, the most well fundededucation system, and she's seeing how the

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quality of education that her children shouldbe receiving has diminished. You had another
parent representative from Texas talking about thebrunt and the and the burden that this
is placed on their school district.You're you're asking teachers to take in students
they don't have any recom they don'tknow what grades to place them in,

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they don't even know how old someof them are, right, some are
adults. There's one one example thatwe write about. I believe it was
up in Wisconsin, Whitewater, Wisconsin, that the student, you know,
they assume that she was an adult, had had a child herself. I
believe it was a three year old. And now the teachers are going back

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and forth figuring out, like,how do we help her? And of
course they're they're just they're just helping, right, They're just doing they're just
being compassionate humans. But again,again I point to the fact that this
shouldn't be their responsibility, right.The job that they signed up for is
to help teach the students and notin that community and not deal with the
fallout of what the federal government hasfailed to do. And then lastly,

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we heard on Tuesday as well froma mot Least she's a good member out
in from out in California, whospoke specifically about how this has put a
drain on how the resources are beingallocated in the school district. Michelle,
thank you for joining us tonight,Michelle Xner. She is with Parents Defending
Education. More to come on therod Ar Kent Show. A new development

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tonight startling new development tonight in thefalsification of business records trial a former president
Donald Trump will tell you what thatis coming up right here on the rod
Ar Kentho and Utah's Talk Radio oneoh five to nine kay nrs. Before
we get to thank rod it isFriday. This is a story that got
a lot of national attention. Wespoke about it several days ago here on

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the show. I'm talking about thebar in Idaho, Eagle, Idaho,
which is, as I recall,just outside of Boise, and his decision
to announce a month that he declaredas Heterosexual Awesomeness Month, and it was
promoted inwards on to Pride Month.Now, he got a lot of national

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attention, some of it positive,most of it negative, of course,
from advocacy groups that we're attacking himfor doing so well. The owner of
the bar, his name is MarkFitzpatrick, and he said he is surprised
by the strong reaction to his decision. He said, quote, I was
thinking of a way that I couldcelebrate the other side of sexuality, heterosexuality.

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Well. He posted a video onhis website explaining the reasoning behind his
decision and the reaction that he's beengetting. I'm not going to play the
whole thing. But here's a portionof how he ended his statement on why
he did it. I've gone tothe point in my life where I'm just
kind of done being quiet about things. I want the truth. I know
there's a lot of deception out therein the world. I want the truth

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to come out on a lot ofthings, and I just want I want
to glorify God and everything that Ido. So I'm not just gonna sit
there and do nothing anymore. I'mgoing to be involved. I'm going to
be out there. I'm going tobe rallying people to help do the right
things, celebrate godly things, andI think the rest of the company,

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or sorry, rest of the countryshould do that. Put a little country
music behind that. Of course,from his bar, they're an Eagle,
Idaho. But he said, look, I'm going to continue to stand by
this. He said, I thinkit is the right thing to do,
and I'm speaking out. He saidhe's had people who have come in from
all over. As a matter offact, he had some people driving way

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out of their way to stop buythe bar and have a beer. He
said, we had a couple comein and they drove four hundred miles out
of their way just to say helloand thank me for what I'm doing.
So it's nice to hear from somebodywho has decided to stand up and say,
you know, we aren't going todeal with pride mont all right.
Time for thank Rout is Friday,and we always have fun on these days

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because we really open up the phonesto you and hear what you have to
say about what's going on in thistoday. You heard earlier today I played
a comparison between the comments made todayat Point a Hoak there in Normandy about
the storming of the cliffs of PointA Hoak and what this special army unit

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did and what they went through totake this ground and to began liberating Europe.
And a lot of people are saying, you know, here we have
Joe Biden plagiarizing the famous speech givenforty years ago by then President Ronald Reagan.
And if you listen closely to it, you can detect some similarities.
Now, is he plagiarizing that's yourcall. But for those of you who

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didn't hear it, I want toplay this back. This is a comparison.
It was put together today as amatter of fact by Clay Travis on
the Clay and Buck Show. Butthis was put together comparing the speech of
Ronald Reagan forty years ago and thespeech made by Joe Biden earlier today.
Here it is last the hoard comegone sixth of June nineteen forty four.

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At dawn. On the morning ofthe sixth of June nineteen forty four,
two hundred and twenty five American rangersarrived by ship, jumped into the waves,
and stormed the beach. Two hundredand twenty five rangers jumped off the
British landing craft and ran to thebottom of these cliffs. Gunfire rained above
them was still. They kept coming. Nazi grenades thrown from above exploded against

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the cliffs. Was still, theykept coming. The rangers looked up and
saw the enemy soldiers the edge ofthe cliffs shooting down at them with machine
guns and throwing grenades, and theAmerican rangers began to climb. They launched
their ladders, the ropes and grapplinghooks, and they began to climb.
They shot rope ladders over the faceof these cliffs and began to pull themselves

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up. When the Nazis cut theirladders. The rangers used the ropes.
When the Nazis cut their ropes,the rangers used their hands. When one
ranger fell, another would take hisplace. When one rope was cut,
a ranger would grab another and beginhis climb again. An inch by inch,

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foot by foot, yard by yard, the rangers clawed lily clawed their
way up this mighty precipice, untillast they reached the top. Soon,
one by one, the Rangers pulledthemselves over the top. They preached sisters
Atlantic Wall, and they turned,and that one effort the tide of the

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war that began to save the world. And in seizing the firm land at
the top of these cliffs, theybegan to seize back the continent of Europe.
Okay, there's a comparison put togetherby Clay Travis on the Clay and
but Sho earlier today, showing whatRonald Reagan said forty years ago and what
Joe Biden said today. Is itplagiarism? You make the call, it's

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very similar, and you know,you, you know, how do you
describe that story in a different way. Well, that's really up to his
speechwriters. Biden's speech writers and theywould have had to been aware that the
speech given by Ronald Reagan forty yearsago is has been described as one of
his best speeches ever. It waswritten by Peggy Noonan, who explained that

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when she was given the assignment,she was told we wanted to be another
Gettysburg like address, something that willmove the nation. And I think when
Reagan spoke forty years ago, itdid a lot of people still remember it
today. So you know, withthe speech writers for Biden, my argument
is, couldn't they have found adifferent way to tell the story. I

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mean, it almost at times soundslike word for word, and maybe you
can't. Maybe you can't vary itthat much without changing the whole story.
But this is a problem that JoeBiden has faced in the past, and
we're talking about plagiarism, and hehas a history of other people's remarks,
and so, you know, theyreally made a mistake today, I think

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on the part of the administration,because they knew the challenges they faced in
trying to recreate the moment that Reaganhad forty years ago without sounding just like
him, and I think today hekind of sounded just like him. In
my opinion, plagiarizing. That's upto you to decide. But Reagan,
you know, Biden today had achance to make his market. As a

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matter of fact, members of hiscampaign have been looking forward to this date
because they really, you know,they thought this is a moment in which
Joe Biden could make his mark andset the tone for the rest of the
presidential campaign, which is now lessthan five months away. They didn't do
it today. I really don't thinkthey did. I think this speech by

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by Biden was can in no waycompare to what Ronald Reagan was able to
do forty years ago. And thenBiden is having you know, a lot
of people have been, like Isaid, Democrats have been hoping he'd come
through with flying colors in his visitto Normandy this week, and I don't
think he has. There are alot of people raising questions again about his

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cognitive abilities and if sometimes he doesn'tknow what is actually going on. During
a speech yesterday, the ceremony yesterdayto mark the eightieth anniversary, he tried
to sit down in a chair thatwasn't there. After the event was over,
the President of France, Macron,turned around and started shaking the hands

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of many of the veterans who werethere on the stage with him to say
thank you. Something happened to JoeBiden. We aren't sure what may have
happened to Joe Biden. He mayhave had an accident, we don't know,
but it was kind of interesting tosee how him and his wife.
His wife kind of covered up hermouth and said something to him, and

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then he was quickly walked off thestage and walked outside where the where the
crowd was gathered, back to hissecurity detail. And it looked kind of
obvious because he had mac cron thereshaking the hands of veterans and Joe Biden
was whisked off the stage by hiswife and they were walking pretty quickly to

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get back to the limo. Nowthere's a lot of speculation as to what
may have happened. Maybe he wastired, maybe had one of those senior
moments where she felt it was betterto get him away. But you know,
the American people and were starting tosee this, and we've seen it
now for several months. His rapiddecline because of his age, and that
brings up a lot of questions aswell about is he fit for office?

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So much is going to hang onthat June twenty seventh debate, and we're
going to see what happens there.Meanwhile, Donald Trump as active as ever
in California this week, a hugefundraiser last night, and say Francisco.
He has a couple more I thinkone in Newport Beach, California tonight,
and he is raising millions of dollarsin that fight against Joe Biden. All

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right, we've got we're gonna openup the phones to you and let you
talk about whatever you want. Tonight. It is, Thank Rod. It
is Friday eight eight eight five seveneight zero one zero triple eight five seven
o eight zero one zero, oron your cell phone dial pound two fifty
and say hey Rod, your callsand comments coming up about the week's events
right here on talk Radio one ohfive nine knrs Donald Trump over the last

(36:30):
couple of a couple of days andsat down and doing some lengthy interviews.
He did one last Sunday morning onFox and Friends. He sat down with
Doctor Phil this week on Doctor Phil'snew show. Spend an hour with Doctor
Phil talking about the race and uh. Doctor Phil ended the interview by telling

(36:51):
the former president that there are moreand more people that doctor Phil runs into
all the time, and he askedhim about the election, and he says
he's finding more people who said,you know, we didn't vote for Donald
Trump the first time or even thesecond time, but we're going to vote
for him this time. So Ithink there's some real momentum building on behalf

(37:12):
of the former president. You canjust get that sense. Can't take it
for granted. You got to keepworking on this, but you're finding more
and more Trump supporters out there.As a matter of fact, had a
big fundraiser. I think he raisedtwelve million dollars last night at an event
in San Francisco. He's going southernCalifornia for the next couple of days,
and even in San Francisco, Isee some postings on social media today of

(37:35):
supporters of Trump's lining up lining thestreets of San Francisco to cheer on the
president. You don't see that veryoften for Republicans, especially in very liberal
states like San Francisco or cities likeSan Francisco, but in fact you did
yesterday. Now getting back to Trump, Trump said yesterday that critics are claiming

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that he would seektribution against his politicalopponents if he is re elected president of
the United States. Trump said wrong, that wouldn't happen. But he does
have the right to do that.Does have the right to do that.
So it's kind of interesting to seethat. Would you know a question I

(38:21):
have for you tonight on Thank Rodis Friday. Would you like to see
if Donald Trump is elected here inNovember, for Donald Trump to get after
those who went after him retribution.Would you like to see that? Or
should the president just say? Rememberhe did that with Hillary in twenty sixteen.
He could have had the Justice Departmentgo after her, but he didn't.

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Would you like to see him doit this time? All right?
It is Thank Rod is Friday eighteight eight five seven eight zero one zero
on your cell phone dial pound twofifty and say, hey Rod, let's
go to the phones. We talkedwith Fred in Sandy tonight here on Thank
Rod as Friday, Fred, howare thanks for joining us tonight? Yeah?
If anybody's ever raised young kids andteaching him how to potty train,

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it looks like when Biden was onthe stage, he was then and over
taking a crap in his pants iswhat it really looked like? It kid
with you exactly and that's probably whythey had to rush him off. So
that's my first comment. My secondcomment is they had all the her testimony
this week apparently before Congress, andI am still absolutely perplexed how somebody that's

(39:29):
not competent, competent enough to standtrial in the document scandal is anywhere competent
to be president of the United States. I just can't piece those two things
together. Maybe someone can help me. Yeah, Fred, I am with
you on that. I And asI mentioned, Frett, it's almost so
daily occurrence or whenever we see thepresident anymore. He appears lost, he

(39:50):
at times up, hears confused.Yet he the poll show he's in a
tight race with Donald Trump right now. How on earth is that happening?
Can't American see what is what's goingon? Fred? What are they afraid
to see? No, I don'tknow why they can't see it. But
my other theory is that's why theyforced him into the debates. I think
there's a contingent of Democrats that wanthim out, so they pushed really hard

(40:15):
for him to debate Trump because Ithink it'll be intuitively obvious when he debates
how incompetent he is, and they'regoing to have to replace him. I
think that's the debate democratic plan behindthe scenes. Yeah, it could be
Fred, You and the citizen Hugheshave that same feeling right now, and
maybe something isn't of that going on. Let's go to Eric in West Valley

(40:37):
tonight. Here on Thank Rod,it's Friday. Eric. How are you?
Thanks for joining us tonight. I'mgood Rod. I got to say,
I'm a staunch conservative. I've beenconservative my whole life. I voted
conservative in every election, and Iplan to vote for Trump for the third
time. But I will tell youif he does not clear out the DOJ
and all of the swamp and goin there and literally clean house, I

(40:57):
will never vote again. I willnot vot again after that. Well,
you know it's interesting. Yeah,it's interesting. Eric. You bring that
up because there is a story inone of the Washington papers today. I
think the Washington Post is that Trumpis looking at the idea of really cleaning
out many of the federal agencies.Now here's how he claims he would do

(41:17):
it. If Congress passes money tokeep these agencies going. He feels as
president he can negate that vote andsay no, they're not going to get
this money and basically wipe out someof these federal agencies. That is a
report that's circulating out there today.That may be the way he's going to
get retribution. Who knows, right, Eric, But you'd like to see

(41:38):
him do it. Yeah, he'sgot to do it. I mean,
the DOJ they're coming after us there. It's such a swamp in DC at
this point. I mean, Idon't trust half the Republicans that are in
there, and of course none ofthe Democrats. And and it's they've all
got too much power. I mean, why does every president come out of
the presidency one hundred times richer thanwhen they went, you know, and

(41:59):
every Congress too. Yeah, that'sa good point, Eric, Thank you
all right, more of your callscoming up. It is Thank Rod.
It is Friday. Number to callif you want to join in on our
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(42:20):
It's Friday. Let's go to gilin Roy, who's been waiting patiently
tonight, Gil, how are youwelcome to Thank Rod. It's Friday.
Hello Rod, Thank you for takingthe call. You are welcome your thoughts.
Donald, Oh, Donald Trump shouldhave every right to go after anyone
that violated the law, and thatwould include probably some of our FBI agents

(42:44):
as well as other officials that haven'tlived up to their oath of office and
followed the constitution. So you thinkyou wouldn't feel bad if Donald Trump.
He has a right to do it, he said in that interview with doctor
Phil and with Sean Hannity. Hehas a right to do it. The
question is should he do it orshould he just move on and get the

(43:05):
country going in the direction that needsto go. Well, he should do
a bit of both. He shouldtake care of the country first, I
suppose. But the people who havetransgressed need to be punished for it.
Yeah, there are a lot ofpeople out there who feel that way as
well. Phil. All right,back to the phones, look so to
Utah County and here from Wendy tonight. Here on, Thank Rod, It's

(43:25):
Friday. Hi Wendy. How areyou great? Rod? How are you?
I'm great? Your thoughts tonight onThank Rod, it's Friday, Wendy,
Well, I'm kind of changing itup. I agree that Biden just
needs to get the heck out ofdis Yeah. Amen, yeah, seriously.
And so on Sunday, we hadthat roads Ray giancon in which you

(43:50):
had commented on on Monday, andsince I drive down here in Utah County,
I drove past that and had areally sick feeling in my stomach and
I kind of wanted to give perspectivethat's why these are happening along with the
wrong way drivers, Okay, andmy perspective, it's the government. The
stress with bidnomics is causing everybody.I mean, nobody can afford to do

(44:15):
anything. You know, there's moreand more pressure. And I see this
as a door dash driver. It'sjust everywhere I'm seeing at least instances that
could be happening a lot during everysingle day since I dash every single day.
Now. The wrong way drivers,I believe there's so much stress that
when they are intoxicated, they wantto commit suicide. Dash just my opinion,

(44:39):
but a lot of them don't makesense, and to me it's just
it's a suicide drive. But there'sjust a lot of this happening, and
it's the government. We need toget Trump into office and we need to
clean house. That's o there isto it. That's just my thoughts.
All right, all right, Wendy, you say you see a lot of

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this. Being a door dash driver, You're seeing incidents like this all the
time on the highways, do you, Wendy, Yes, yes, I
do. And preuss me Rod It'shard for me to keep my cool because
when I'm mining my own business anddriving very safe and carefully, which I
do because I've got almost thirty thousanddeliveries in six years. Wow, I

(45:22):
see this day in and day out, and it's a me first syndrome.
Everybody has to cut everybody off.Everybody has to be first to that stop
light. It's becoming rampant and it'sreally really scary and some days I just
don't even want to be out onthe road to work. Well, that's
kind of scary out there, Wendy. Thank you for that perspective. It

(45:45):
is out there, and this wholething about road rage, and we had
two incidents this past week past weekendas a matter of fact, and Wendy
is right, I mean, maybepeople are stressed out folks count to ten.
I open up the window. Idon't care whatever you have to do.
But this outrage stuff is in factgetting out of control and it's become
very deadly, and you do notwant to be involved in an incident like

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we've seen in the last couple ofweeks. Craig is in Spanish for tonight.
Here on Thank Rod, It's Friday. Craig, how are you?
Thanks for joining us. Hey,good to talk to you. Rod.
So your question about what Trump shoulddo when he gets into office to go
after people absolutely one hundred percent twiceas hard as they went after him.
If we don't make people pay forthe stupid and illegal things they're doing,

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we're just incentivizing him to do itmore. And too often Republicans are really
good at saying, well, wedon't want to be like them, Well,
then they're going to just keep doingwhat they're doing. If there's no
consequences for their actions, we're incentivizingbad behavior. So yes, as much
as I don't want to, heneeds to go into Washington and start putting

(46:52):
people in handcuffs and in jail fora long time so that everybody that thinks
they're going to get away with itagain, has to pause and say,
well, maybe I won't. Andyou're saying by doing so, he's sending
a strong message, Like you justsaid there a moment ago, Craig,
don't mess with us anymore. We'redone with this. You tried again,
It could get even worse exactly becausewhat are they doing to him right now?

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They're punishing him for campaigning Wall Orange. He's just for trying to turn
the things around. Yeah, sureis. Yeah, we need to.
We need to make him think andrethink about next time they want to attack
a Republican because the whole they maythey may get more than they bargain for.

(47:36):
I hope he can do that.All right, Craig, thank you,
appreciate your call. All right,more of your calls coming up on
this Thank Rod Is Friday. Ifyou want to join in on our conversation
that we have eight eight eight fiveseven eight zero one zero or on your
cell phone dial pound two fifty andsay hey Rod. More coming up here
on talk Radio one oh five nine. Can arrests like we've been doing all
this week and last week. We'vebeen talking with candidates getting ready for Utah's

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June twenty fifth May, we focusedon the statewide candidates, including the attorney
General's race, the governor's race,and now the congressional races. We've spoken
with candidates this week in both thefirst and second congressional district. We had
a chance to talk with Utah CongressmanBlake Moore about his fight to go back
to Congress. Representing Utah's first congressionaldistrict that's mostly Northern Utah. He faces

(48:23):
a challenger in Paul Miller. Andas I began my conversation with Congressman More,
I asked him about some thoughts thathe had on the budget. He
thinks the budget fights in Congress aremissing the point. I asked him what
he meant by that. It's prettysimple. If you want to deal with
your budget, if you were anybusiness owner, you would look at your
entire budget. You wouldn't just lookat less than twenty five percent of it.

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And that's all we do in Congressis we vote on the Annual Appropriations
Bill, the stuff to funds,the funds, the military funds, our
Veterans' bunt, homeland security. That'sonly twenty five percent of our entire budget.
Most things in Congress that we spentmoney on get enacted, like a
Medicaid program or a TANIF program,or medical or Social Security, medica,

(49:07):
all that stuff, it gets enacted, and then you never get a chance
to really vote on it on anannual basis. And that's the biggest problem.
That's the fundamental difference between what youknow you would do in Utah with
our budget in Utah versus our federalbudget. We're don't vote on that stuff
any So we we worked with Americansfor Prosperity and we've got a bill that
would call the Comprehensive Congressional Budget ReviewAct, and it would force us to

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vote on the entirety. I willtake a Social Security vote every year.
I don't care. I'm not scaredof Social Security and not scared of Medicare.
I want to make sure these programshave longevity. And if we just
let them sit there for twenty thirtyyears and not do anything about them,
you know, and not adjust withthe times, then we're going to be
in the mess that we're in now. But the problem is we only vote

(49:53):
on twenty five percent. So that'sall people bicker about, and that's all
and frank and candidly that's all theRepublicans typically, Oh, this appropriations bill,
well, it's funds, like eightypercent of what it does is defense,
veterans, homeland security, all thethings that we're actually driving for.
I represent Hill Air Force Base.But we can't fix the But we can't

(50:15):
fix our debt and deficit issues ifwe're only dealing with the office supply budget.
We have to look at the labe. I mean, any business owner
will look at the entirety of itand not just to put small portion of
it. That's that's why I sayit doesn't miss That's why it misses the
mark. Well, but let meask you this blake. You know,
and you mentioned this just a secondago talking about changes just a Social Security
or Medicare. For a lot ofpoliticians, that's political suicide. So why

(50:38):
aren't more politicians willing to at leasttry and do something about it? And
this is where it gets I getit. It gets uncomfortable for some folks.
Now for me, I represent likeone of the youngest states in the
nation, and you're a thera physicallyresponsible state. So I don't care.
I came back here to solve thebig budget debt issues. So I'll do

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it, Others get scared because whyDemocrats have advertisements literally ready to go.
As soon as the word is mentioned, they will start attacking these districts in
say California or New York. Youknow, they're usually Democrat leaning districts,
but you know, we've won alot of those seats lately, but they
want to like win them back.Democrats do, so they will start attacking

(51:22):
those what you would call a swingdistrict or a fringe member that that's stuck
out there in a very Biden leaningdistrict, and they'll start attacking them with
Medicare and Medicaid. And it's justthe political reality. But we've got to
be willing to address it. PresidentTrump, you know, this isn't a
bad strategy. In his first term, he was very clear, let's do

(51:44):
tax reform, let's support our military, and then let's do Medicare, Medicaid,
social security, all those tough issuesin my second term because then I
don't have to go get reelected.That was the strategy. Now, we
should have taken an opportunity when wehad it really like get in and again,
we don't want these programs to end. These programs have longevity. We

(52:05):
just need to make sure they're reformed. We get the age limit, right,
we get the way that the trustfunds are growing, that kind of
stuff. We've got to adjust thesethings. But President Trumps, hey,
let's do it to my second term. So if we're in his second term
in the next four years, Ithink it's a real opportunity to do some
entitlement reform, make sure that they'rethere beyond twenty thirty three when they're set
to go in solvement, and youknow, make a stronger, stronger case

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for our budget. Blake, doyou see the whole the money issue,
the issues that you're talking about herefinancially as the key issue that voters in
the first districts are concerned about,or are there other issues that well as
well that you're trying to address.Well, I would say it's more like
a like a proxy of it.When we see inflation hit, that's what
they're they're mostly frustrated with. Likethat's been the thing that has been as

(52:52):
we've talked to constituents and pole constituents. Inflation and looming is the economy.
Those are the things that are topof minds, so they're not necessarily focused
on the day in and day outdebt drivers, but they're focused on the
negative consequences of big government spending andthings like that. Mike, were you

(53:15):
surprised that what happened at the convention? You came in second place in the
convention? What do you think happened? What where Della gets upset about rot?
That was the best I've ever doneat convention. I'm surprised you asked
the question that way. You shouldbe really you should these congratulations, Blake,
And now that's we actually had thisconversation two years ago when I took

(53:37):
second place at the last convention.I took second place at the very first
convention I was in. I don'tknow, a lot of people don't understand
me. I try to reach out. They just won't communicate with me.
They don't show up to all thetown halls that I do. They just
want to have a perception. Andit is what it is. I mean,
very very few incumbent. In fact, I did better than every other

(53:59):
incumbent on the docket that day,So there's like an anti incumbent sort of
mentality there. And you know,I got forty point five percent last time,
and I won by thirty or sopoint and we're polling extremely well right
now, up sixty six to fourteenin our polling, So we're really we're

(54:21):
really strong and looking forward to theprimary and then I'm gonna go worry about
winning the majority so we can stayin the in the Republican House majority.
As a member of leadership for thefirst time ever in Utah by I have
a responsibility to make sure that wewin those seats in California and in New
York and things like that too,And I'll be focusing on that as soon
as I wrap up this primary andand move on. Like how do you

(54:44):
overcome the anti incumbency? Are yousensing it out there as you go about
the district right now? Like Isaid, I've always taken second place at
convention, and I will show upevery time, and I will continue to
engage and I'm going to win thesefolks over sometimes. And my goal would
be to win the convention one ofthese years outright with fifty plus percent.
But until then, I'm going tokeep working hard. I think the frustration

(55:09):
is we've seen three years of PresidentBiden's policies really were on Americans, where
on small business owners? And youknow the nonsense with a lot of the
just this is the fight I thingslike the loan repayment. There's a loan
forgiveness, the loan forgiven stuff likepeople just use that it's fundamentally unfair and

(55:30):
they're just frustrated a Biden and likeanybody in Washington did see I'm frustrated with
they don't necessarily look at my specificrecord and we'll see that. Like this
year's appropriations bills, you know,we trimmed out two point one trillion dollars
from the budget. We will havea savings of two point one trillion dollars
because this year, finally when Republicanswere back in control of at least a

(55:52):
narrow majority in the House, wedid well Republicans haven't done since twenty thirteen,
and that was support defense but lowernon defense discretionary, and in doing
so we will save over in abudget cycle two point one trillion dollars.
If people really understood that, andI'm pretty sure I would fly through convention.

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But it's a lot of nuanced budget. People don't understand budget. They
just follow some of the tweets orsomething that goes on out there and there
in the internet world, which isnever accurate, but it is what it
is. Utah Congressman Blake Moore joiningus on the Roder k kenhow as he
talks about his June twenty fifth primarycoming up all right, more coming up
right here on the rod Ra KentShow and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five

(56:35):
to nine. Can terres Well,Apparently a lot of those steps have now
backfired on many of those communities.Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk
about that is Dave or Banski,a senior editor at The Blaze. Dave,
thanks for joining us tonight. You'vetaken a look at what has happened
with defunding police and the movements aroundthe country. What have you found out,
Dave? Well, Yeah, Imean I've been watching the trends for

(56:58):
a while doing you know, quitea bit of reporting on crime in general,
and you know a lot of thathappened around the riots in twenty twenty
and then talk about defunding the police, you know, and it just it
didn't take a lot to figure outhow that was going to work out,
and you know, it worked outreally badly. Yeah, I found out.
Yeah, Dave, take a lookat a couple of the examples you

(57:21):
cite which really stood out to you, like, WHOA, that was a
mistake. Well, yeah, Iwould say that the scenarios that played out
in Minneapolis specifically were the ones thatbecause there were several different scenarios that I
was just just left me shake inmy head, you know, the like

(57:42):
like for instance, I think thebiggest one for me was, you know,
you had you know, you hadthis whole defund the police movement going
yeah and the uh, you know, the police being vilified, police leaving
the force in addition to you know, cutting down uh funding for police,
and then they turn around later andthey have to uh they have to get

(58:07):
sued for it, and they haveto end up paying temporary police officers to
make up the difference, and youknow what's lacking in police protection. I
just think that's like, you know, it's ridiculous, you know, because
they're you know, they end updoing what they should have done to begin
with, which was not defunding thepolice. But you know, now they

(58:28):
have to backtrack, and you seea lot of backtracking. I was.
I saw that as a big trendas well. I mean, how are
they i mean, they're obviously tryingto cover their butts after realizing they made
a mistake. How are they tryingto bring some of the police and maybe
some of the money back or oror are they at that level as of
yet. Well that's one thing Iwasn't I wasn't necessarily seeing it was it

(58:52):
was more uh, you know,it was more like the results of what
they had done some in some instances, like for instance, in Chicago,
you know Lori Lightfoot, the formermayor you know, in twenty twenty,
was you know, basically a championof defunding the police, you know,

(59:14):
and then there was this you know, like an other cities or a spade
of violence. And then after that, you know, she turned around and
you know, you know, Lightfoot, she unveiled like a spending plan that
boost funding for police or just tryingto cover, you know, get back
to the way things were, andI think everyone just noticed that it just

(59:35):
wasn't working. Yeah, yeah,you know, Dave, I think one
of the funniest stories that I sawin your piece was what happened to this
news crew in Oakland where they wereactually interviewing someone on the steps of the
city hall and they almost got robbed. What happened in that story Dave,
that's a hilarious story. Well yeah, I mean, and it just it

(59:57):
was, you know, a newscrew was interviewing Oakland's violence prevention director,
if you can believe that, youknow, in June of twenty twenty one,
and then armed robbers approach him,trials try to steal camera equipment.
All this is happening during you know, the on camera interview, and you

(01:00:19):
know, a security officer was ableto drive them away. But you know,
once, you know, once thenews of this whole thing broke out
on social media. As I wrotehere, it's like it was called a
perfect example of what happens when localgovernments cuts its police budget. I mean,
you know, the big thing Ithink is that, you know,

(01:00:40):
it's not necessarily just fewer police officerson the streets. It's it's the sentiment
behind defund the police. You get, you know, police being vilified,
police being charged and you know,reprimanded for their behavior. Eminoals knowing this
is happening, you know, andthen starting to get brazen in their criminal

(01:01:05):
behavior, and they're attacking police,physically attacking police. In fact, I'm
working on a story right now aboutdifferent examples of police you know, just
just being you know, completely overwhelmed, physically attacked. Stuff I've never seen
before. And it's you know,so it's not just the numbers being reduced,
it's it's the you know, it'sthe sentiment behind it. It's the

(01:01:28):
emotional toll officers retiring early, leavingthe force completely, you know, maybe
even going to other you know,municipalities or towns that don't do defund the
police, which makes sense to me. Yeah, it does to me as
well. Did you talk to someof these officers at all, Dave,
Did they express just unbelievable frustrations?How are we going to do our job

(01:01:51):
when the public doesn't even support uswith this? Well? No, I
didn't actually speak to officers in interviews, but you know, the sentiment was
very clear. You know, bythen, by you know, the numbers
of police that were just leaving,and you could just you could just see
it in the photos and the videos. You know, every night they're out

(01:02:14):
there fighting off fighting off riots,fighting off crime. And the other factor
is also which is something you know, we cover pretty extensively, especially in
the summer of twenty twenty, youknow, was once criminals were arrested,
they're out the next day. Youknow, a lot of these places,
the cities like Portland had like ano bail thing going, you know,

(01:02:37):
and you know, and so it'syou get a slap on the wrist,
you're right back out there, andthat just has to you know, just
completely tire out and frustrate police officers. Is there any sense, Dave,
that this is starting to turn aroundor many of these communities that you looked
at, are they still holding onto defunding the police and not doing anything
more to help them out. No. I think it's just sort of quietly

(01:02:59):
going, you know, hopefully It'slike I don't think they're you know,
some of them, you know,we're pretty open about, you know,
how frustrated they were about the defundmovement. You know, like San Francisco's
mayor, you know, was justreally angry about, you know, how
things were going and said they needto take a more aggressive stance against crime.

(01:03:22):
Not that it's changed that much,but I think they're kind of quietly
stopping that's my censor, kind ofquietly stopping the to fund the police movement,
And you know, I think it'ssort of just you know, dying
a slow death on our newsmaker lineDavid Banski, senior editor at The Blade,
talking about defunding police efforts around thecountry and how they have backfired on

(01:03:45):
many communities. All Right, morecoming up on the Rod ri kencho how
Our Listen Back Friday segments coming yourway next right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine kN rs now. Earlier this week, the Biden administration,
I believe it was on Tuesday,unveiled an executive order signed by the
President to deal with their crisis onthe southern border. It has not been
received very well. A lot ofpeople are saying it's not going to make

(01:04:08):
a heck of a difference when itcomes to controlling the surge of immigrants,
which seems to be growing again eachand every day. Well, once that
announcement was made on Tuesday, wehad a chance to talk with Kate Lincoln
Goldfinch. Kate is an immigration attorneyin Austin, Texas has a wealth of
experience about dealing with amnesty and asI began my conversation with Kate, I

(01:04:28):
asked her first of all, herreaction to the Biden executive order. I
don't think it's a good idea.I can certainly understand the motivation, and
I think all of us understand.There's been all of this talk about the
border and what's happening at the borderand fear around the border, and so
it could make sense to react withan enforcement mechanism like this, And I
can see how a lot of peoplewould think that it was a good move.

(01:04:49):
But the reality of the situation isthat we have asylum seekers along our
southern border, many of whom qualifyfor protection. And what we did several
years ago was we shut down theborder for the most part to all asylum
seekers, and we went from asystem where anyone could come to the border
and apply and be screened. Theywould be detained and they would be deported

(01:05:11):
if they didn't qualify, but therewas a mechanism that was accessible for applying
for asylum, and then we changedthat through various policies, through COVID,
through the Trump presidency, et cetera. And so this is just another one
of those steps. And the realityof what occurs when we implement enforcement mechanisms
like this along the border or thatit increases chaos and confusion, it increases

(01:05:34):
cartel violence, and it does notdecrease the needs of migrants, and so
we're left holding the same bag.And so it's a politically motivated action by
the Biden administration. I understand it. I understand why it's happening, and
I don't agree with it. Isit all political? When you say you

(01:05:55):
understand it, K does it meanyou're saying this is pure politics, nothing
more than that, because will itmake any difference? That is what it
is. This is pure politics.And the reason is that immigration is a
really hot button, powerful issue.It works for a lot of people to
talk about how scary and bad immigrationis. It gets a lot of campaign
donations going, gets a lot ofpeople elected. And on the other side,

(01:06:18):
on the Biden side of the aisle, he gets a lot of heat
on immigration. And so taking anaction like this that looks on its face
to be pro enforcement sort of calmsthings down and settle things. Settles things
down from the folks who are afraidabout immigration, they don't really understand what's
going on, and they have theperception that Biden isn't doing anything about immigration.

(01:06:45):
Of course, the bigger picture,the broader picture for everyone to keep
in mind, is that this isa nation that actually has quite a need
for immigrant labor more than ever,and that's growing. And what we really
need is for Congress to come togetherand past immigration reform that expands immigration in
the United States and that this youknow, along that would settle things down
along the southern border. But wealso need to return to a time where

(01:07:09):
we have an orderly process for accessingasylum protections for migrants. You use the
term a moment ago Kate chaos.Is this going to create even more chaos
with what Biden did today? Ithink it will. And the reason that
I say that is because when theyimplement these changing policies along the border,

(01:07:30):
it sends out messages. It startsthese messages through social media, through the
cartel, and they say, oh, the Biden administration did this, and
that means that you can no longeruse CBP one and that means that now
you can only pay a coyote,and more people get kidnapped, more people
get trafficked. Really, what happensin all of these sort of changing policies

(01:07:51):
is that the cartels and the violentcriminal organizations seese upon these opportunities to take
advantage of vulnerable migrants. And wehave to keep that in mind that what
we're talking about for the most part, the vast majority of these people are
legitimate asylum seekers who have fled verydifficult circumstances that most of us can't even

(01:08:14):
imagine. And so for us tocome at this from fiscally responsible but also
a humanitarian perspective, what can wedo to make sure that we are offering
protection to the people who would qualifywhile also protecting the country against the people
who don't qualify, And that isnot just a carte blanche shut down of
the border that doesn't achieve what we'reafter. Kate, I haven't read too

(01:08:35):
much in this of this. I'vescanned through things. A concern I hear
is about it does little to protectchildren and the trafficking of children may increase
in fact as a result of this. What's your take on that, is
that true? And what do yousee happening with children who could be trafficked.
I do think that this would increasetrafficking, and the reason for that
is that there's a carve out thatsays that this shutdown of the border doesn't

(01:08:59):
apply to unaccompanied children, to kidswho are alone. And on its face,
you might think, oh, great, they're not gonna you know,
shut down the border to kids.But in reality, what happens is you
have imagine you have a migrant familythere on the other side of the border.
It's a you know, a momand her two kids, her two
little kids, and she's fled domesticviolence. She's desperate, she's poor,

(01:09:19):
she's been kidnapped once before, andher little children are in danger. And
so she faces the choice of remainingwhere she is with those children, not
being able to protect them, orpinning the documents of those children to their
clothes and sending them across the borderbecause they are the ones that can get
through. And I hope that noone listening to this interview ever has to

(01:09:42):
make a choice like that, butI can tell you I've talked to many
parents who have, and when wehave policies like this that say, oh,
we're shutting down the border, butkids, not to kids, then
parents end up sending their kids overalone because it's the only way they know
how to keep them safe. It'sheartbreaking and it's gut wrenching, and we
are effectively separating families when we havepolicies like this. Final question for you,

(01:10:03):
Kita, and I appreciate your timetoday. I mean, I wonder
how Americans are viewing this today,because my guess is most people are saying,
five months away from an election,he's now doing something that he could
have done probably three years ago.This is pure politics. Is that the
sense you're getting as well, Kate. You know, I hear from a
lot of people who have all sortsof opinions about this, because I'm pretty

(01:10:25):
public about my position, and Ithink my reading of the situation is that
most people have been hearing the voiceson the right side of the aisle pretty
loud and clear that you know,there's a dangerous surge of migration along the
border and it must be stopped.And so to them, this headline appears
as if Biden is solving the problem. And the thing that I think all

(01:10:47):
of us need to recognize is thatall of those messages about immigrants equal bad
and dangerous. Is that's politically motivatedrhetoric that benefits only politicians. And the
reality of the situation is the numbersaren't higher now at the border than they
ever have been before. We alwayshave fluctuations and populations. We are a

(01:11:09):
nation of immigrants. We certainly canhandle more immigrants, and in fact,
need them, and so really whatwe need is sensible policies and an investment
into the immigration infrastructure so that wecan process more immigrants safely and that benefits
everybody. As part of our ListenBack Friday segment, our conversation earlier this

(01:11:30):
week with Texas immigration attorney Kate LincolnGoldfinch talking about Joe Biden's new executive order
on immigration and the crisis on theborder with Mexico. More coming up on
Listen Back Friday, right here onUtah's Talk Radio one oh five nine canterists.
All right, let's talk about theupcoming campaign. There was a report
out over the week that we spokewith Reagan Reeves. Reagan is a White

(01:11:51):
House correspondent with the Daily Color Gregand I had a chance to talk to
her on Wednesday during Wingman Wednesday abouther story about the upcoming campaign and how
the Trump campaign is a little bitdifferent this year. As we began our
conversation, I asked Reagan, firstof all, why are some people saying
that that campaign, the Trump campaignright now, is firing on all cylinders.

(01:12:14):
There's been a lot of commentary frompundits about the Trump campaign being stronger
than ever, and that's the typeof stuff that you'd expect from GOP pundits
or right leaning outlets. But theTrump campaign has become so good that even
left leaning pundits and left leaning outletsare forced to recognize how strong the campaign

(01:12:36):
is this time around. So takeAxios and Vanity Fair for example, they've
written pieces admitting that calling the campaignbuttoned up and conventional, which your words
we never would have considered to useto describe the twenty sixteen and twenty twenty
campaign. But the biggest difference wefound talking to insiders in and around the

(01:12:57):
campaign was that the true campaign's relationshipwith the RNC has grown over the last
eight years. This is, youknow, Trump's third time running for president,
and it's allowed him to weed outthose that he doesn't want on his
campaign and figure out, you know, how that relationship with the rn C

(01:13:18):
should work. And so Republican presidentialcandidates always, you know, the nominee
merges with the party, but thistime around, we saw Trump put in
his own leadership and you know,really take charge because there were divisions in
the past. So Reagan, youdo a great job of describing kind of
the climate back in twenty sixteen,you kind of forget these things. As

(01:13:42):
I was reading your article, itbrought those memories back. Very unconventional campaign
really after he wins the nominations,really where you see the ranks previous and
the rn C come together with thencandidate Trump. You then note that in
twenty twenty, with the pandemic andall the issues kind of changing under their
feet, they were sluggish to respond. Biden's machine seems stronger from all your

(01:14:03):
research and your discussions with people.What will be the difference, what measured
difference will we see in this teamthat's battle tested. As you've described,
loyalist people that he has, hedoesn't have to get to know them after
a convention. He has them.Now no daylight as you've described between the
rn C and the Trump campaign,What does that actually mean in this upcoming
election for the former president. Yeah, so when there's no daylight, it's

(01:14:29):
you know, the same staff.There's no confusion over you know, if
you're talking to a spokesperson who's fromthe rn C or the Trump campaign.
But you know the advantage that thishas given Trump in twenty twenty four.
You know some examples that I knowin the piece are the president is the
president. Trump is leading President Bidenin head to head matchups both nationally and

(01:14:51):
across key swing states. When wesaw Trump, you know, kept from
the campaign trail in manner and whenhe was in court, you know,
he only had wednesdays and weekends free, we saw a different type of campaign
strategy come from the operation. Theytook him to a botega to meet with

(01:15:15):
supporters, they took him to meetwith construction workers, They took them to
the firefighters to bring them pizza,and that's unconventional. We haven't seen that
from the Trump campaign before. Butthey, you know, have been handling
these different speed bumps or roadblocks,i should say, with grace and a
different composure that hasn't been seen fromthe campaign before. And now they're starting

(01:15:42):
to gain ground on the Biden campaignand the DNC in terms of funding.
In April, we saw the Trumpcampaign and the RNC raised twenty five million
more dollars than the Biden campaign andthe DNC. This's the first time that's
happened. And then in May they'resaying that they raised one hundred and forty
one million dollars in Maga, Inc. Which is the super pac affiliated with

(01:16:08):
the Trump campaign said today that theyraised seventy million in the month of May
alone. And so those are kindof the results that we're seeing from this,
uh, you know merger. Thisthis really strong merger Reagan. Are
there two or three people you couldidentify who really have brought this campaign together?
Who are those people? Yeah,the insiders that I spoke to really

(01:16:30):
pointed to Chris Losovita and Susie Wileson the Trump campaign. So Chris Losovida
and this is a good example ofhow the Trump campaign and the rn C
are just one unit. Chris isboth you know, the senior advisor to
the Trump campaign and also you know, the cheapest staff and so overseeing all

(01:16:51):
the operations at the rn C andall the staff there. And so these
insiders have told me that Chris andSusie are seasoned, you know, they
have experienced, They're loyal to Trumpand you know, have been really great
people for him to lean on andto head up this operation. And there

(01:17:13):
are two people that the President hasbeen able to you know, kind of
bond with and identify over the lasteight years as the people who should be
you know, running the twenty twentyfour campaign, So Reagan the fundraising that
makes so much sense, and I'mso glad to hear that there's this seamless
operation and they're setting records and Ithink even over the five days from the

(01:17:34):
conviction on a Thursday last week toMonday, they're reporting at least two hundred
million dollars raised, seventy million ofthat being small contributions, thirty percent of
that number being people that had nevercontributed before. Let me ask you this,
are you hearing anything about the scrutinyand the protection of election integrity?

(01:17:55):
So if I go back to thetwenty twenty election, there were some just
some weird things going on where PaulWalks weren't able to watch in Philadelphia and
other places. You had what happenedin Fulton County? Is there anything that
you're sensing where the eyes are goingto be there the transparency on this process
is going to be greater to preventany kind of irregularities in the general election.

(01:18:18):
Yeah. So I know this,And the piece and insider told me
from the twenty twenty campaign that becausethe Trump campaign and the RNC didn't really
fully merge and embrace what they coulddo together, that they really dropped the
ball on election integrity. And it'simportant to remember that the RNC was under
a consent decree until twenty eighteen afterthe DNC sued them, so that kept

(01:18:44):
them from really diving into election integrityefforts. So twenty twenty was really the
first time that the RNC and theGOP could really dive into election integrity efforts
full fledged. And that was previouslyexplained to me as proof of concept when
they first started their litigation, youknow, in twenty twenty, which a

(01:19:05):
lot of people, a lot ofconservatives on the right are very concerned about,
you know, what happened in twentytwenty. So you know, this
time around, the RNC plans tofile at least one hundred lawsuits challenging all
these states with dropboxes and you know, two week voting periods. But you

(01:19:25):
know, I don't want to geta little too ahead of myself because I
have some reporting coming out very soon, and you know, maybe I can
quee you guys in on that justto sneak out. But it's you know
about the adjustments that the RNC hasmade ahead of you know, after the
Trump campaign took over the rnc's electionintegrity efforts and kind of what the last

(01:19:49):
couple of weeks have looked like andwhat the game plan is going into November.
So you know, a lot ofthat is which states they're targeting,
and you know, is that amix between litigation and grassroot efforts? Is
are they focusing on one area orthe other. But you know, I
can say with confidence that this issomething that is very important to the RNC,

(01:20:12):
but even more to the Trump campaignand to President Trump. As part
of our list Back Friday segment,Greg and I and our conversation with Reagan
Reefs this week White House Correspondent witha Daily caller talking about the Trump campaign
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