The Rod and Greg Show: Effort to Strengthen E-Verify in Utah; Why Democrats Love USAID

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The more and more information we get, the the harder
it's going to be for the Democrats to continue to
defend uh their little money money London. I don't even
know if they're Democrats by way of politics. They're just
making a lot of money. There's just a lot of
money to be made what they're doing. I don't even
think they care about the issues anymore. They're just rolling
in the dough. Can you tell them a little giddy today?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You are? What's I'm giddy because of everything, everything that's
going on in this country. I mean, I'm just giddy, folks.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You want to know how I know? And Rod's giddy?
How I'm asking you. I'm talking to the audience. Okay,
I'm not asking you, I'm asking the audi giddy?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
He hums. I do nothing well because I'm happy. I'm happy.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
You should hear the humming going on in here. He
is excited.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Ones today you should have humming.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
You've been humming bars since I got to the studio.
It's cute.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, the reason is because Donald Trump is doing what
he said he would do, and the can people other
than those inside the belt Blaye are behind him.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
The ones that we would expect the weeping, whaling of
the draining of the swamp. They're screaming, weeping and whaling.
But the rest of us in America even bought what
they called the Obama demographic of young people and family
and like family. They used to say that was an
Obama demo there with Trump all the way. Yeah, because
he's looking out for us.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
I mean even that that newspaper, that national newspaper, which
says it's fighting is keeping democracy dies in darkness? You
know which one I'm talking to?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
The Washington Post headline today, I love this. As Washington
reels from Trump's first actions, his voters like what they see.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
They must hate that. Hey, well, just we'll say that
because we're not you know, our subscriptions are all real.
We're not being subsidized. No, that's not us. It's nothing
to see here, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Move along. Here's the subheadline. Most were in favor of
his efforts to scale back the federal workforce to stand
by controversial cabinet nominees and a slash foreign aid. And
they go through this list. They talk to a number
of people around the country, Greg and all of them
say it comes down to this, He's doing what he
promised he would do. Yeah, you know, and they have

(02:15):
been the Democrats in Washington and I think around the country,
greg have been caught so flat footed their heads are spinning.
They're going, he can't do that, Oh, yes he can.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I'm telling you, I don't know how he's I think
it's Elon Musk. But they stumbled across the secret sauce
of auditing, which is usually the most boring thing you've
ever heard. In all the numbers and all the pages,
and then page five thousand and sixty, there's one thousand
dollars hammer in there somewhere and a bridge to nowhere
and empty federal building. We've heard it all and we've
not liked it, but we didn't know how to do

(02:48):
anything about it. Then comes Elon Musk. Oh, he's got
EI n numbers, he's got tax returns, he's got an
open source so people the public can just look it
up on their own. I mean, I just have a
listener who just sent me an address on thirty ninth
South and fourteen fifty East. It's called the Lutheran Rocky
Mountain Services. They have received over a six hundred million dollars. Now,

(03:12):
I don't know over what amount of time that is.
But I just went on my Google maps, and you
know how they do a streetscape. This does not look
like a six hundred million dollar operation. I don't even
think they're spending it on facilities. So you know this,
this is a very you know, low key building, six
hundred million dollars. And that is what you can do

(03:32):
when he when Doge comes in, makes the source material public.
You can go and find this little building that has
six hundred million dollars arriving right there.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know, my question is great, where's the local media
digging into all of this?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Now?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
If we had a big enough staff, we do that.
We just don't have time. But there, why aren't they
we had staff? We go knock on this door right
of this place. I'm looking at it right now. They
where is the money you got? You got a vault
in here? What are you doing with that?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Well?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Listen of some of these comments in this Washington Post
article that people from around their country are making. Here's
when he says I trust him. Is he going to
do everything right the next four years? Probably not? Is
he going to do everything I agree with? Probably not?
But he's going to do most of what I agree with,
and I will take that. They understand he can't get

(04:24):
everything done, but he's making an effort to do so,
and they'll support him. Here's another one, Greg, I'm just
looking for a change. Everybody says he can pull us out.
I think anything was better than the last present. Oh
Amen to that man, Amen to that one. In a minute.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I'm telling you, these are happy days. And I'll tell
you what what a time Rod to bring on a
wing man full time. I'm telling you I couldn't have
more fun and what we're doing right now in terms
of the breaking news and more. I mean just seeing
this in Salt Lake City, this location, this Lutheran and
you know, by the way, the sign does say Refugee Resources,

(05:04):
Refugee Justice League. They got signs. They're not even hiding
the ball there. I see nothing that says Lutheran. Yeah
by way of signage. But they do have Refugee Justice
and Refugee Resources as signs out front of the building.
But I don't know. Again, I don't have to look
and find out what the six hundred million over what
span of time, But they didn't use it on tenant improvements.

(05:25):
I will just say that.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Doesn't look like it doesn't look like it. Well, let's
turn to Scott Jenny So I absolutely love he does
absolutely fantastic job on CNN. He explained the appeal of
Donald Trump and Elon Musk and what they're doing right now.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
This is radical transparency on these USAID grants and other
parts of the government that typically operate in an opaque
fashion and play a lot degrees here.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I'll give you the political view.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
The American people elected Donald Trump because they thought he
was going to be a sledgehammer against this government and
against the out of control bureaucracy, and Elon Musk is
the instrument of the destruction. And there is nothing bad
about the politics of this right now about going through
the government and reporting to the American people.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Did you know your money's going here? Did you know
your money's going there? It's all upside for trum I
love that term radical transparency and what they have and
what Scott Jennings is pointing out is they have opened
up the books on everything. And someone made the comparison today,
Greg and I didn't even think about this. When you

(06:30):
go to a shareholders meeting or a stockholders meeting, what
do they do Greg, They open up the books.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
They let you look at everything to see how your
money is being spent. Right well, isn't that what they're
what's happening right now? Aren't we the stockholders in the
United States of America, and don't we have a right
and a demand to tell government officials open up the books.
We want to see where our tax dollars are going.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Especially if we have a tax increase coming that they're saying, well,
we have to pay for this somehow. Oh really, then
when we saw FEMA when the hurricane rip through, they said, yeah,
FEMA's out of money. We're sorry, folks, no no money
in the till it can't help you. Then you find
out all of this money, by the billions and billions
of dollars are just being shuttled around. It's it's timely,

(07:14):
and I don't think the American people are really sympathetic
about it because it's all money that goes to someone
other than American people through the through our normal channels
or transparency.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
So pretty much, yes, open the books, open the book. Yeah, well,
now you understand why we're in such a giddy mood
today and you and that's an indication that I'm giddy.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
You are humming, and you been humming. As soon as
we go with a commercial break, you won't hear it, folks,
he will be humming again. He hums when he works,
when he's this happy.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
All right, Coming up, Steve Moore is going to join
us world talk with the Economist Extraordinaire about his thoughts
on dog, what it's doing with us AI D and
a number of other things that's coming up right here
on the Rotting and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio
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Speaker 1 (07:57):
I want a K next to the follower.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, we'll get there. We're getting closer every day. Tell
all your friends out there, folks, if you want to
follow what's going on on this show every day. And
we're now retweeting some interesting stories and audio and we mean.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Rod, you don't know how to do? Is Bond crazy?
He loves it. But we had we had some thank
you for the listeners who follow yesterday. We had a
little growth, little growth model happening there. So let's let's
see that continue to grow. Yeah, so things are going
to look looking up. I'm getting giddy like you, Rod.

(08:33):
Oh you should have heard him humming before we're commercials, folks.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
He let me tell you what we have Wingman Wednesday.
We may need to call this.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Giddy Thursday, Giddy Up Thursday, starring Rod and I'm just
I'm just along for the ride, all right. Earlier today
there was a federal judge who has extended the deadline
for the buy out of federal employees that the President
is off for doing. So it's been extended until Monday.
And that's not a big deal. But we just got
some breaking news today, Greg. Sixty thousand federal employees have

(09:04):
now taken the President up on his offer for a
buyout resignation. So it's gone front started off at twenty forty.
We're now up to sixty thousand, and now the judge's
extended the deadline until Monday. It's pretty good buyout. It's
a six months buyout. You sign up now and you'll
be paid right through September. And there are some sixty
thousand federal employees right now. Greg have said I'm in.

(09:25):
But you know what, that confuses me because I thought
a judge blocked some of that. I mean, they said
that anyway, Maybe not. Maybe I heard they just extended. No,
I think that everybody's working on their own. They have
accepted it, but I thought that some unions and things
wanted to block them from being able to do.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
The unions won't block everything. So all right, let's say
hello to our good friend Steve Moore, economist extraordinaire with
the Committee to Unleashed Prosperity. Steve, thanks for coming on.
So much going on, Steve, since we talked to you
last week, What do you make of what DOJA is doing,
especially with USAID.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well, it's been eighteen days now of the Trump presidency,
and it's just it has been a whirl when the
guy just charged out of the gates like I told
you he would, and he just hasn't stopped galloping to
the finish line. Look, the Doche Commission is really charged
with finding the waste and the duplication and the inefficiency
in the fraud in our federal budget, and nobody better

(10:23):
than Elon must to do that. He's done an amazing job.
And one of the most wasteful and counter productive agencies
is the US Agency for International Development, which actually has
probably retarded international development by giving out handouts without anything,
just like welfare just never helps families. That it's supposed to.

(10:43):
It doesn't help countries either, And so it turns out
that AIDA has been involved in all sorts of ESG
DEI stuff and not really helping create businesses and creating
jobs in these countries. So let's shut out down, you know,
let's close it down. It's not working, so we should

(11:03):
stop spending money on it. And of course everybody in
Washington has gone ballistic about this, and they say how
cool he is. But the truth is, I've covered a
ID for almost thirty five years. It is actually a
pretty rotten organization and we deep better off without it.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So would the world.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
You know, I can't imagine the promise of draining the
swamp or finding efficiencies rolling out better than what we're
seeing now with specificity specificity and EI in numbers and
everything else. I mean, I think it's everything. And then
some of what the president promised is he ran for election.
I'm just looking now changing a little bit, but under

(11:40):
the same vein New York Times is reporting that the
judge has delayed the program offering federal workers incentives to quit.
I've read that that President Clinton did something like this
to incentive ies federal workers to quit it looks like
a judge has delayed this. So my question is how

(12:00):
much do you think the judiciary will interrupt or delay
the fast pace of our president? Is it going to
be everything? I mean, it's a lot of executive orders
to jump on. How much? How much are the judges
going to stop him?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Well? Look, yeah, yeah, well that's a great question. First
of all, with respect to the giving these federal employees
a buyout, I mean, this is actually in the this
is these are a voluntary in almost all cases, they're
voluntary buyouts, so that they're giving the workers a choice,
you know, nine months of a paycheck and not having
to work, and not that they're working anyway, but you know,

(12:34):
that's pretty good. And then it's a pretty generous offer.
And uh, the workers would only be doing it willingly.
And yet the union is saying, no, you shouldn't have
that choice, because the union is worried, as they should be,
that they're going to lose members, They're going to lose
dupe jus paying members because we have to shrink the
federal workforce. Look, it's not complicated. We are losing two

(12:55):
trillion dollars a year. We have to shed costs. This
is a good way to do it. Especially how many
times have I said on your show over the last
twelve months the government has been the fastest growing employment
agency in the country.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yes, yes, you sure have, Steve. Steve the Caroline Levitt,
the press secretary for the President, meant briefly today and
shared some of his priorities when it comes to taxes,
like no taxes on tips, no tax on senior Social Security,
no tax on overpay. I mean, she laid it out
his priorities and anything they come up with. Will he

(13:27):
succeed in this? Do you think, Steve, Yeah, we're going
to get the tax cut done.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's gonna be like pulling teeth trying to, you know,
get the Republicans in Congress all to come together, you know,
because there's no margin for error. They have to get
virtually every Republican in the House and virtually every Republican
the Senate because virtually no Democrats will vote for this,
and so they will get done. But there's gonna be highdrama.
I want to see it get done by the as

(13:54):
the President does, by the bmorial day, but I don't
want it to go on until December because the lawnger
you wait, howe it is to get this thing done.
Trump's on a roll right now.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Do it now.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
He's got to mandate from the voters to make those
tax cuts permanent. And I'll mention something I mentioned a
few weeks ago on your show that if we don't
do it, a failure is not an option. Because if
we don't get this done, the average Utah family is
going to pay three thousand dollars a year and more taxes.
We're going to lose the business tax cuts, the small
business tax cuts, we're going to people are going to
have to go back to itemizing all their deductions twice

(14:28):
as many families will be susceptible to the evil deft tax.
I mean, I could go on and on, but it
is an absolute economic comparative that we get this done.
It will get done, but it shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I don't know whether making it so hard.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
So I'm going to get even greedier. Steve, what about
no tax on tips, no tax on social security, no
tax on overtime. We'll eliminate the tax for billionaire sports
team owners. I want all those Maybe I'm, you know,
being greedy here, but I do not want the massive taxing.
He said it's coming unless Congress does the right thing.

(15:02):
And I think that is the priority, and in all seriousness,
set is app that's an half to have. We don't
mess around. They cannot raise our taxes. If they can't
find money to cut give me a break. That's new
money they're going to charge us. So that all logic
doesn't hold. But I do love and I do think
the American people loved his other ideas on taxes and
lowering the taxes for Americans.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
We're going to throw that in the mix. I can't
guarantee we're going to the mold on, but we are
going to. We are going to get rid of the
tax on tips. We are going to do something on
taxes on overtime, uh, and some of those other issues
that he's brought up, because after all, that's how we
won a number of the states. Those popular those issues
were so popular, and we really want to simplify the
tax system too. Uh. And so that's a really important one.

(15:45):
Get sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (15:49):
Oh oh.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
I was just simply saying that, you know that this
tax bill worked so well before that it ends up
that we actually ended up with more revenues after the
tax cut that we had before them, so there was
no revenue. Losh. So I'm tired of embody saying you
have to pay for the tax cut. We don't have
to pay for this. It generated more jobs, more growth,
more capital, and more revenue for the government.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
More revenue for the government. Man, Pretty amazing, all right.
Steve Moore joining us here on our Newsmaker line, talking
about Greg. We've got to have the tax cuts extended.
Just keep them going and expand them. I love the
idea of no taxes on tips, social Security. All of
that needs to be done, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, it's a tax. It's a tax increase. Otherwise they
don't extend them. Just know what it is. A tax
increase is coming our way while we see all this
government reckless spending. At the same time, Yeah, no tax increase.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Identity theft has been an issue that not only this date,
but many states around the country have been able or
have been trying to deal with. And I've talked to people,
We've had people on the show years ago talking about this,
and trying to get your identity back is almost impossible.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
And what's scary is a lot of these is from
young kids that aren't twenty one yet or eighteen. They
haven't even accessed their Social Security number to even know
that the identity theft has happened. It was a big
problem in Utah. It then was not a problem anymore,
and then we had some of our laws where Everify
laws changed loosened, and I think we're back to having
a problem. But I think we have a champion, Rod.

(17:22):
I think we have someone that has our back, as
the people's back, because we want to end this identity
theft and anyway, So.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Let's find out who that champion is. Id stay. Representative
Neil Walter, he has introduced a bill increasing Utah businesses
that would have to use e Verify, and he's joining
us on our news Miaker line right now. Representative Walter,
thanks for joining the show. Tell us about what this
bill is all about and what you're trying to do.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Crowd and Greg, it's great to be with you today
and I'm excited to talk about House Bill two fourteen
Employer Verification Amendments, and what it does is very simply
change the requirement so that employers with five or more
employees would be required to participate in everify.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's that simple, that's all it does.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, and just some background, Representative, we passed this bill
when I was a lawmaker. It was working well. It
was a number of years ago when they were changing this.
So what you're doing is really, I think, at least
trying to, if not better, trying to get back to
where the state was not all that long ago. I
went to committee. I was in committee when they were
bringing this bill up. I spoke to try and provide.

(18:30):
I was just citizen Hughes at that time, saying, hey,
we did this. I don't know that we should change it.
They did anyway, but you know, I thought we'd be
doing a little bit of a victory dance in the House,
especially you guys are conservative rock ribbed Republicans over there.
But I'm looking at the board the status of your bill.
Yesterday in committee it was held, it did not pass.
Can you share with us e verify making sure that

(18:52):
that people are documented, are working. Why did that bill
failed to get the Did you run out of time
or are you running into some walls with some of
your colleagues, I.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Think there's some question about whether or not five is
the right number. Just to provide some context in twenty ten,
the Utah State legislature passed the law that required e
verify for employers with fifteen or more employees, and it
was that way for twelve years, and then in twenty

(19:23):
twenty two that number was increased to one hundred and fifty. Now,
because of the just the prevalence of identity theft and
the issues, the real serious issues that happen when somebody's
Social Security number is used inappropriate, I've proposed to move
it to five. I think one of the real concerns
from the committee was is five the right number? And

(19:44):
we'll continue to have that conversation, try and work through
that with the committee members. But to your question, you know,
why is the bill held at this point, I think
the biggest question from the committee is what is the
right number? And there's a there was a vigorous debate about,
you know, the reasons why it should be one way
or another, but that right now is the number.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
We're trying to work through. Furbs end of Walter. How
much pushback are you getting from the business community. Are
you facing a lot of pushback on this?

Speaker 7 (20:12):
I think that, uh, their issue is very simply that
they recognize that immigration has been a long term structural
federal problem, and they're frustrated and disappointed that the federal
government has not stepped up, although there have been numerous
commitments to resolve that issue. And I think in some

(20:33):
ways I'm not speaking for them, but I think there
is an element of exhaustion here where they want everybody,
all all the people in the business community. They want
to do the right thing. They want to they want
to follow the law and et cetera. But they're also
facing all the challenges that many of us are frustrated
about around immigration, immigration laws, lack of enforcement, and and

(20:57):
so I think partly what you're seeing from the business
community is an expression of either hope or maybe even despair,
where they're saying, we just need the federal government to
fix this problem. And while you know, I'm proposing to
try and take a step that the state can take,

(21:17):
they are hoping that there'll be a more comprehensive solution
from the federal government.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Well, I hope that. I mean, we could see from
a Trump administration anytime that you might not get federal
funds if you're messing around with some of this identification
and verifying it you have. The state has a good
track record when that bill is passing twenty ten of
it working your numbers lower. I do think there is
a debate to be had if from looking at it
in with your perspective as you're sharing with us. But

(21:46):
this state has made up of small businesses. It is
the majority of the employers in this state. It's the
backbone of the state. So I wish you luck, Representative,
and I have no doubt that you're going to get
this over the Senate. That's the old and the slow.
I don't know what they'll do with this bill. They
got a ghastleak in that chamber. So good luck, Representative Walter,
thank you, thank you for joining us today.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
We can thank you right, Representative Neil Walter right here
on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine, Kay and our aunt.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
We're rolling right along. It's talk radio one of five nine.
Can arrests everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. And I wanted
to bring up this was breaking news Rod yesterday.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, late yesterday we saw this story. Fox thirteen, the
Fox affiliate here in town, had this story. And that's
pretty amazing story.

Speaker 8 (22:28):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, and so I think it was meant to be
a story that was a sad story, a story to
pull out your heartstrings. There was a man he was
appearing before a judge and Ogden for drunk driving and
we'rear ending someone a woman hitting her while he was intoxicated,
and in the process of doing that, it was discovered
that he was not a documented resident of this country.

(22:51):
So in the court hearing, the judge says that he
would he would otherwise after hearing the you know, the
preliminary hearing, whatever they're doing, I would let him go
and schedule a court date. But I was sad. Literally
this judge said, he was sad to say that Ice
was there to detain him and to keep him and

(23:11):
this made the judge sad. And when I saw this story,
the one thing I wanted to say I actually posted
this on my Citizen Hughes X page, is that this
is why retention elections, where you go in the ballot
box and you get a million names of judges and
you're just supposed to say yes or no whether you
want to retain him. It's the biggest farce of an
election in the world because this judge, he will never

(23:34):
be helping people, will never know that Clay Stucky s
t U c KI. Judge Clay Stucky was sad that
someone who was here illegally and a drunk driver hitting
someone hitting a woman in her car. He was sad
that this person was going to be detained by ice.
This made this judge sad. Now, if that retention election
had information like that available to the public, maybe it'd

(23:57):
have a retention election that was actually or meant something.
But there is zero information on retention elections. And then
this judge he really there should really be a lot
of scrutiny paid to a judge who has this kind
of attitude. This is a window into the soul of
potentially our judiciary, but specifically this judge.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
My question for this judge up there, Judge Stooky, is
that what it is up there in August? Did he
express any sadness for the woman who was hit by
this trunk driver? You know, i'd say, you know, how
about this woman who you hit, I'm sorry, I'm sad
for her as well. Did he express any kind of
emotion for him to say, I'm sad that soon as

(24:36):
you step out of this courtroom, there's some lice agents
who are going to take care of you and probably
send you back to wherever it came from, Central America, Mexico, whatever.
But did he say, I'm also sad for the woman
who got hit and the injuries that she may have
suffered because you were drunk and you ran into her.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
And you had no business being here in the first place,
had no business being here. If the laws were enforced,
if the border were secure, that woman would not have
been hit by this individual. And again it's your point, Rod,
he's showing this. He's sad, he's apologizing to the illegal
alien for him having to be deported by ICE. But
shouldn't he be more committed to the care and the

(25:13):
safety of Americans in that very moment?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You would think so, Greg, I would I mean, you
would think this to help? You would think this judge said,
you know, hey, buddy, you're here illegally. You're driving drunk,
so you've broken the law twice. You may have injured somebody.
I don't know how serious of a rear ender that was,
but it was enough for police to arrest him and
for the judge to say, I'm sorry. As soon as

(25:37):
you step out of my courtroom, there's some agents from
ICE here who want to talk to you and deal
with you. And I'm sad for that. Well, apparently the
justice system in this country anymore is sad for people
who break the law. Yeah, not for people who the
victims the law or the victims of people who break
the law.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
And you're seeing this, I mean they're getting judges to
stop Trump from all of executive orders, are trying to
It's this judiciary and Utah especially, like I said, with
the lack of information, zero information election cycle on a
retention election for judges, it's actually a mockery of an
election that there isn't anything. They have a judicial review

(26:17):
that you can look up on a website. You know
who makes that review. Attorneys that appear before these judges.
Do you think they're going to have a whole lot?

Speaker 4 (26:23):
No?

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Negative to say, pretty amazing story coming out of Augden.
All right, a lot more to come on a very
busy Thursday afternoon here on the Rod and Greg Show.
Great to be with you, by the way, now coming
up next. It's amazing the Democrats, the progressive, the liberals,
whatever you want to go them, they're all the same.
How they're defending US AID and where all our tax

(26:46):
money has gone? Could this be just an idea, and
we'll talk to someone who says this, could this be
the one thing that Democrats love more than abortion? And
I think that was possible. But we'll talk to somebody
who said it is because they're defending USAID much more
vigorously than they've defended abortion.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
No joke that is not emaggeration is shockingly the truth.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
We'll talk about that coming up in our number two
of the rod arc Cat Show on this Thursday afternoon.
I should say to Roddy Gregg joke, Well, excuse me,
we'll be back with our number two going.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
It's so giddy, He's just giddy. So I'm looking at
CNN news story. A new headline just came up. Attention
federal employees, so they know their audience. They know no
one in Middle America's reading their garbage track. Attention federal employees.
It may be hard to get a private sector job
right now. Yeah, little empathy, huh Yeah. You know, all

(27:43):
these federal employees and the people that have been milking
them for their own money, and all this stuff Doge
is uncovering. You know what's going to be hard is
when when the gravy train gets discovered your money laundering
goes away, and you have to get a real job. Attention,
it's going to be a little harder out there than
it's been.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
You don't say, well, you know what I'm thinking about
all of this, greg and nobody wants anybody to lose
their job, right, I mean, you know you don't want
that to happen. But let me tell you what to
those federal workers. Welcome to the real world of working
in the private sector.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
You know, you never know. It depends on how the
company is doing, what they're doing, changes they're going to
be made. You just never know if your job is
secure or not. In broadcasting, I've been I bet I've
been through half a dozen reduction enforced incidents in my career. Right,
it happens, you accept it and you deal with it well.
In the federal government's the polar opposite. When we were
seeing during the the Biden administration, oh we have job growth.

(28:38):
When you drill down, it was federal jobs that were growing,
and then you find out that most federal buildings are
empty six percent or seven percent are showing up at
five percent of that where the people that maintained the buildings,
so only two percent were showing up at work that
actually used the buildings, you know. Yeah, and they kept
just growing the federal employee base, so they had good
employment numbers supposedly, but they weren't doing anything.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
And now it's going to be hard. Now you can
go the private sector where there's a little bit higher
standard competition, it's going to be hard, going to be interesting,
going to be they're putting out the alert.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well, joining us on our newsmaker line around now is
a good friend of the show. He's always great down on.
I'm talking about Derek Hunter. He is a columnist also
works with town Hall as his own podcast as well. Derek,
thanks for joining us. Derek, let me ask you. You
wrote this terrific article that usaid might be the one
thing Democrats love more than abortion. That's hard to believe,

(29:32):
but you know, do you think the Democrats right now
are simply fighting a losing battle.

Speaker 9 (29:39):
Losing is the wrong word. You're putting that in the
current tense. It's in past tense.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
They lost.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
They never should have picked this fight. You walk down
the street with a lot of twenties and offer a
twenty dollars bill to anybody who can explain to you
what USAID is, and you'll probably end up with more
money in your pocket than you started. Nobody has any
idea what it is, and those who do know, all
the polling data shows the American people oppose International Aid

(30:06):
four and eight. So even if you do know what
it is, you don't like what it does. So it's
it's really bizarre to me that this is where they've
chosen to draw their first line in the sand is
we must defend bureaucrats at the word trial lawyers unavailable,
where the tall lawyers unavailable. I don't know, like kids

(30:28):
party clowns are slightly more popular than bureaucrats. I'm not
sure you could have chosen a worse hill to die on.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
So this is I've thought about this a lot because
this issue, it is so expansive, the amount of money
that's being laundered, and how it's so much kept in
here domestically. I mean, they've got we've got some pretty
outrageous and offensive expenses, but those are small dollars compared
to what they're pulling in and then shuttling between all
these different NGOs and you name it. So my question

(30:56):
is in normal politics or in campaigns and elections. If
you see something going on bad that you were a
part of, you run away from it and you point
and go, wow, they're really bad. That's not me. They're
not They're wrapping their arms around this and there as
you say, drawing this line, and it's in the same
time where they said FEMA hurricanes and North Carolina West part, Yeah,

(31:17):
we're out of money, sorry for you, Southern California. Yeah,
it's gonna be tough to pay for it all. And
then you see these billions of dollars being shuttled back
and forth, and this is what they want to fight.
Why it just doesn't make sense politically that you wouldn't
try to just naturally distance yourself for it. Why are
they so defensive of USAID?

Speaker 9 (31:37):
Well, if you remember back in the nineties during the
debate about welfare form, one of the statistics that was
in college, that's one of the statistics that stuck in
my head forever, was that only one out of every
five dollars that was spent on welfare made it to
the actual recipient, meaning that eighty percent of it was
eaten up by the bureaucracy and the administration. Passing through

(31:58):
the hands, salaries, benefit lights, everything getting to the recipient.
It's the exact same thing with us AID. They will say, well,
we're spending fifty thousand dollars to buy whatever for this
group of people, but then it's filtered through different NGOs.
As you said, they each wet their beaks. Now, it's
not just that those things are. That model is wildly inefficient,

(32:20):
which is something that Elon Musk, if you know anything
about his life, seems to wake up in a cold
sweat regretting inefficiency somewhere. But it is also a soft
landing program for progressives and government. They go and they
work in government. They feed money to all of these
groups and then they end up getting jobs with these groups.
So they're wetting their own beak as they do it.

(32:43):
If you really, if you remember the Clinton International Foundation
whatever it was called, that went out of business after
the twenty sixteen election because the Clinton's no longer had
anything to sell. One of their famous donations that they
received was ten million dollars from Saudi Arabia to buy
mosquito nets for sub Saharan Africa. Now, the organization was

(33:04):
based out of New York. Saudi Arabia's is right, that's
not that far. It's pretty close to Subsaharan Africa. If
they really wanted to supply people with mosquito nets, they
could have probably just shipped them straight there. They decided
to go through New York so that the Clintons wet
their beak, and then whatever subcontractor they eventually went through,

(33:25):
probably three million dollars worth of mosquito nets were air
dropped into various parts of Sub Saharan Africa. It's the
same business model as the Clinton International of whatever global initiative,
and it's the same business model, except you don't have
to worry about losing an election and have nothing left
to sell. It is a permanent bureaucracy feeding this conveyor

(33:49):
belt of taxpayer money.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
You know what I find humor is Derek in this
story as well, is certainly those within the swamp were
all upset and holding protests and voicing their their discussed
for what's happening. But of all places I saw this
article today, I think it was in the Washington Post,
as a matter of fact, where if you go outside
the beltwait and talk to people who supported and voted
for Donald Trump and ask them what's going on? And

(34:12):
if they're upset by this, they kind of shrug their
shoulders and say, well, that's why we voted for the guy.
That's his job, get in there and do it. They
don't appear to be very upset about this, Eric.

Speaker 9 (34:23):
No, they're not. Nobody cares who really sits there and
loses sleep over whether or not Nancy Pelosi is losing sleep,
Oh my goodness to leave and nilhan Omar are upset.
I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to
go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
No.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
Now, if they're upset, maybe you don't want somebody else
to start the car, but you're not going to really
worry about them being upset. The American people elected a
boat rocker because we have been where he's had enough
of being seasick ourselves. We want to take the fight
to the people who have been screwing us over. And
that's really what it boils down to the people who

(34:56):
told us for the last four years, you don't know
how good you've got it. As people were unable to
afford to feed their families and fill their cars with gasoline.
Those people are upset. Good it's a big dose of
your own medicine. If you have a problem with it
being a spiky suppository. Take it up with yourself.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
So you made it.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I love this. You should just join the show. Why
don't you just move to Utah please and join us? Please?
We love this. So I don't think dog is done right.
And I think that the way he's doing this with
the speed, this isn't some year long study and an
Inspector General report that on page eighty five you can
find something in on page one hundred and three. Now
this is done in real time. They're turning out information.

(35:38):
It's like open source data that you can follow ei
in numbers. And I don't think it's just this week
or just recently. And I'm shocked personally. I'm shocked by
the amount of money being shuttled back and forth. But
I don't think they're done. But my question to you
is how long will this news cycle and this information
that people are like myself are really covering and narrating
and learning about. How long will this last? Is it week?

(36:00):
Is it a month?

Speaker 9 (36:01):
Is it a year?

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Will people get tired of winning and not want to
see this anymore? Where do you think this goes?

Speaker 9 (36:08):
I never get tired of winning the first four years
it was naive. It was like watching a baby giraffe
stand up on ice for the first time. Now Trump
knows what he's doing. This is going to last, I
would suspect, at least until Linda McMahon becomes Secretary of
Education and starts trying to shut that down. They're going
to try to drive a wedge between Elon. They've got

(36:29):
a boogeyman there.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Nobody will know.

Speaker 9 (36:30):
Who Linda McMahon is, so they'll have to attack Trump,
and that falls on deaf ears. They will they try
to attack Elon and drive a wedge between him and Trump.
But he's doing exactly what he said he was going
to do. Trump is and Elon is one executing it.
It's funny to me to watch these leftists talk about

(36:51):
how Elon Musk is an unelected person running like, well,
there's two people in the entire executive branch who are elected,
the president and vice resident. Literally everybody else is on
the left pick right. At least those people who President
Trump appoints can be fired by him, can be hauled
before Congress and asked questions under oath for a government oversight.

(37:13):
Random bureaucrats. You have no idea who they are exist,
have no accountability whatsoever. And those are the people the
party that screams at the top of their lungs to
shut people up. This is what democracy looks like. Think
democracy looks like. They are chemically imbalanced. It's fun to
watch them go insane. I just stay splattered distance away.

(37:34):
I treat it like going to an old Gallagher concert.
Bring some clear plastic to hold up when they do explode,
to make sure your suit doesn't get ruined, but otherwise
enjoy the show. Because if you had Democrats defending the
bureaucracy to give money to foreign governments on your Bingo card,

(37:55):
you've already won the lottery of life.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Derek, thanks for joining up going to a Gallagher cousin.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
I find Derek to be very veiled. I never know
what he's saying. It's hard to you know. He keeps
the cards.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Closely, he holds back, he doesn't open up about how
he really feels.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Guard from the splatter like you're at a Gallagher concert,
is what he just told us, because it's they're going
to explode. These liberals are so upset that their money
train just got found out.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
The Biggie bank is empty anymore. Is all right. More
coming up on the Rod and Gregg Show in Utah's
Talk radio one oh five nine. Can arrest. Well, we've
done the video of you doing the milkbone.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yes, because it keeps on teeth cleaning, you know, since
we have the dentist.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
The dentists has been here today and I.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Wanted to, you know, want to show off my teeth
cleaning thoughts.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
You're really weird, really really weird. I think you would agree,
greg The last what is it eighteen nineteen days now
since Donald Trump became a president of the United States
for a second time, it has been head spinning. I mean,
you know, he is doing so much so quickly. It

(39:00):
has caught the Democrats flat footed. They don't know how
to respond to this other than go after their favorite
subject now, which happens to be Elon Musk. Right, and
you know Washington and the legacy media. Oh, he can't
do this, he's breaking the law, blah blah blah. Right.
The American people, Gregor, are saying, we like what we're
seeing and it doesn't bother us at all.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
It blows my mind that they have just they are
taking the side of the swamp. The swamp is being
drained in weighs so thoroughly that I didn't even think
was possible if you told me this blueprint was out
there waiting for us, and waiting for Elon Musk and
his brainiacs to come in and find I didn't even
know there were tools out there that could be this

(39:45):
throw and pulling back the curtain on the graft and
the money laundering that's going on right now. And the
most powerful argument is that none of this money goes
to the American people. It only goes a little bit overseas,
mostly into the pockets of the fat cats that created
this little.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
One that are running these all kinds of organizations that
are getting this money and geo's that are getting this money.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So it just alienates every taxpayer in this country. It
doesn't matter what party you are, doesn't matter if you're
an independent, you're not part of this little scam they've
got going. And they're going to try and tell the
American people who are being robbed that being robbed is democracy,
and if you interrupt any of this then you're you're
you're going to kill democracy.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well, I loved, I loved with Scott Jennings on CNN
called it radical transparency.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I love yeah, and it is.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
The American Do you think, Greg, the American people had
any idea the amount of money that was being sent
spent and what the issues were. I don't think so,
no way. And I'm wondering today. I want to open
up the phones because I know you've got an audio
sound bite you want to play, but I want to
open up the phones and ask people out there, what
do you think of what Doje is doing? Is this

(40:55):
what you wanted Donald Trump and Elon Musk to do?
I think most Americans, you know, and they may be
a little you hear some of this stuff sometimes you go, Oho,
where are you going here? What's going to happen here?
But you know what, this is what we asked for.
And I want to know from our great listening audience
if in fact they think what they think of the
job that Elon Musk and Doze is doing so far.

(41:17):
And I think, Greg, they have just scratched the surface.
I really think they've just scratched the surface.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I do too. I'm with you. I I can't wait
to see what they find next.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
This isn't, this isn't. This isn't a week long news cycle.
This is I think this is an ongoing story. What
a fun time to be Ron and Greg show then
to see this These new receipts become discoverable every single day,
I mean, and then open source so you can look
up the address. I'm there's a by the way, there's
a great website if you or an X page if

(41:52):
you don't know about it. And this person actually lives
in Salt Lake It's called Data Republican, okay, and you
can look at it. But there's also a subscription. I
went and got the subscription three bucks a month because
I couldn't help it. But this is someone who lives
in Salt Lake City, and this she has done, Cody,
She's taken that open source and she's actually what she's

(42:12):
posting is as interesting or more than what the DOGE
team themselves are putting out there, because she's looking specifically
at certain you know, just how the dominoes fall are.
She's looking for certain connections, coming up with profound information
and information. And I think these are platforms that you
can actually enter into names or if you have an

(42:34):
E I in number and you can look up yourself
what's going on.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well, we've got to get to a break. But when
we come back, Greg, I want you to play that
some but I think it's with Congresswoman Nancy Nancy May.
We'll play that, and we want to open up the
phones to you tonight because you are the for our audience.
I believe it's probably what ninety nine point nine percent
in favor of Donald Trump. I think that's pretty close, right.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Just the smartest listener think they would be supportive of
Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
But we want to know what you think of the
job the doge is doing so far eight eight eight
five seven o eight zero one zero, or on your
cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod,
your calls and Cummings coming up.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
A lot has been going on since Donald Trump became
President of the United States. He is steamrolling through government agencies.
He wants to you know this what the American people
want it. They want to find out where our money
is going. And he's doing it and rapidly.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
And we want to go to you are listening audience,
because you know you've got to take It's always good.
I always love it. We just got to go straight
to the audience. So let's go to Vincent in lighton Vincent,
thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rod and Greg show.
What do you say about this, Doge. Is this destroying
democracy or are we pulling back a curtain?

Speaker 9 (43:44):
No?

Speaker 10 (43:45):
I think thanks for taking my call, appreciate it. I
think it's a really good thing. In fact, and that's
kind of funny. We haven't done this yet. And what
I wish is do we only get two.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Years of it?

Speaker 10 (43:56):
I wish we could get four years. I think we
need almost a dick to recover it.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Good take that long, Good int the Greg.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, and I will say that that this isn't going
to be just this week or he'll be He's at
the Treasury right now. He's been camped out there. They've
been working there. They're gonna move on. They're going to
move to the next department. And I don't know when
they get to the parent education, but boy, is that
one going to be a blast.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I don't know if it was Derek Hunter or Steve
Moore who said, you know, wait till Linda McMahon is
confirmed as Education secretary, then we'll see what as you
just mentioned as well. All right, back to the phones,
let's talk with Dean in Battleful tonight. Here on the
Roden Greg Show. Hi, Dean, how are you.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 11 (44:36):
You know, this is not just about the nine million
dollars going to political which now they're thinking there's another
thirty two million the are going with it, or the
eighty two million going to Chelsea Clinton. It's also about
one hundred and twenty million that went to terrorist groups.
What's going to happen next is going to affect the
midterms because once you get into the details, then start

(45:00):
finding out who requested this information. Go, I mean, this
money goes from this person to this person, and they're
gonna be starting to be tagging that to those people,
especially when it comes down to the House and all
the midterms. How we're gonna find out who's the most corrupt.
The other aspect of this is we're gonna you think

(45:21):
about all those people worldwide who are now cut off
from their money.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Yeah, you're right, they sure are all right. Thanks for
your phone call.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Okay, let's go now to Jacob and Sandy. Jacob, welcome
to the Ron and Greg Show.

Speaker 11 (45:37):
Hi.

Speaker 8 (45:37):
Thanks, Yeah, I just wanted to add a point that
I it is the reason why I voted for Donald Trump.
I mean I voted from last election cycle, but this
time even more so. I think it's something that we
hear every political or every election cycle, is I are
we're going to cut spending. We're gonna cut spending. Oh,
you don't really see anything done about it. And when
I heard that he was going to team up with

(45:57):
Eel Musk he saw what he did with XT, I
was like, I mean, he's done it before, he can
do it again. And I'm sure it's going to uncover
a lot. And another alarming thing is that like all
these Democrats that are throwing up their flag and saying
we got to stop this, we got to stop this,
I think they're scared that there's going to be more
uncovered and more spending that they were probably a part of,
and all this stuff. And I bet that the American

(46:18):
people were able to vote on every single individual item
that we've been uncovered so far that we're spending money
on a lot of the American people would probably say, no,
why are we spending money on a play in Ireland
and transgender surgeries in carew Like that's not something I
want our money going to.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
You're right, Jacob, I think as I mentioned earlier, I
really think we have just scratched the surface. What's going
on to be.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
And again the things they're spending it on are a first,
but then how much they're holding back. Yeah, and keeping
you know, is run around money. Let's go to Bill
on Redwood Road. Bill, thank you for holding in. Welcome
to the show.

Speaker 6 (46:56):
Hey, I appreciate you taking my goal. And Greg, I
just want to tell you that a great Christmas album
there by Marshall Tucker you ought to listen to sometimes.
So my thought is is reiterate what everybody's been saying.
I think we're just at the tip of the iceberg,
and they ought to start tracing these bills and who

(47:17):
proposed them, who passed them, and start tracing the money,
because I guarantee you the money didn't go where it
was supposed to go. And we just need to find
out and keep pushing that train down the track until
we do clear out the swamp as much as possible,
and hopefully we'll have a few years to do that.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
You know what, Bill, I'm not sure to be honest,
and we'll find out more about this. I'm not sure
how much Congress was involved with this. Remember there were
some senators who went to the USAI D and said,
we'd like to know what you're spending money on, and
you know, the agency said, your business. So they have
been operating almost completely independent of Congress. And that's that's

(47:58):
how they've been able to get away with what they
been able to get away with so far. So I
believe you're sorry to cut you off there, Bill, my
fault one. That all right? Morey coming up more of
your phone calls here on the Rod and Greg show
in Utah's talk radio one oh five nine, Kate and rs.
And this idea is catching on Greg. The Committee to
Unleash Prosperity, Steve Moore's group put out this story today

(48:21):
that Red state governors and legislators are now taking a
page from Doge's own playbook and creating their own state
versions of Department of Government efficiency. Should we do that
in Utah?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I think so?

Speaker 2 (48:35):
I mean, don't we have something like that now?

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Or?

Speaker 7 (48:37):
Am?

Speaker 6 (48:38):
I so?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Actually it's funny you should say that. I was at
the capitol today and I ran into our state our
legislative auditors, a guy named cad Minche'. He's a great
I mean, he's young, he's a young gun. He became
the head of the Legislative Orders when I was speaker,
and I joked with him that he is our doge.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
He they've been doing this, they've been overturning rocks and
finding what's underneath him for a long long time. Uh
the And I said, but what you need is like
an Elon Musk to put your stuff in in like
online and on ex so people can see it and
access it that easily.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Get it. Go, get a couple of nerds.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, those guys, because they do great reports. But nobody
ever pages. Well I shouldn't say no one pages. The
right people do, but it's never getting the kind of attention.
This is because it's kind of in a legislative you know,
report form. But they are that. I would say, there,
they are a doge. They do when they're asked to
go look into anything. They do such a thorough job.
But I would love some extra eyes.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Wouldn't be nice because dog commission.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Can be part of it, k can be part of it.
But I'm telling you, get some eyes out there and
have everybody just with their expertise. I think these young
people that Elon's bringing in it's like a riddle. It's
like it's a challenge and they are just connecting dots there.
These leftists had no idea someone was going to be
that smart and they use AI and they're going to
find them.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
We didn't know it. Yeah. Well, in Oklahoma the governor
there has created doge Okay meaning dojo Oklahomas. In New Hampshire,
Governor Kelly Ayott has created a Commission on Government Efficiency.
Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry forming his own state Fiscal Responsibility program.
Lawmakers in Idaho, Texas, Kansas, and Missouri are creating their

(50:17):
own commissions as well. Greg, So this idea is catching
on and I just I love it. I mean, and
I you know, compliment to Utah lawmakers because I think
this state is run well and run very very efficiently.
But you never know, someone may see something and say
what are we spending this money on? And why are
we spending And that's why I think a Utah DOGE

(50:39):
commission may be a pretty good idea.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, I'm I'm look this data Republican. I'm telling you
I pay for a subscription for her site, and she's
from here. She's giving you You can just go to
her site and click it and put a keyword in
a key principal person that might be on a board,
and then it'll even if it's US five USA idea,
it'll show you. It'll give you the flow of funds.

(51:03):
It's something else. Wow, I'm doing it while we're on
the air.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 6 (51:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Well check this out learning as we speak. Yep, it
may be, you know, I'm not sure. I don't know
if this would have to come from the governor, or
probably from the governor to set up a commission. I
don't know if Cox would go along with that here
in the state of Yutah, Utah. One other thing, This
poll GREG was taken right before the presidential election right
and it showed that Americans national satisfaction is at a

(51:31):
new low with all kinds of issues. Eighty percent are
not happy with the nation's efforts to deal with poverty
and homelessness. Seventy eight percent are not happy with a
moral and ethical climate in the country right now, Seventy
three percent of Americans not happy with the quality of
public education in America, seventy two percent not happy with

(51:52):
the size and influence of major corporations, and seventy percent
not happy with the amount of taxes that Americans pay. Now,
this was done before the election. I wonder what it's
like now, be interesting, whatever it would be?

Speaker 7 (52:08):
All right?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Mark, coming up our number three of the Rodin and
Greg Show on Talk radio one oh five nine knrs.
You and I are very similar. You know, having a
law just for having a law does make a lot
of sense, right would you agree?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
But how about this one, Greg? And this one in
a way makes sense to me. A new law is
being put forth by Senator Martin Looney of New Haven, Connecticut.
It would force movie theaters you're ready to list the
actual start times of the movies, allowing viewers to skip
the ever lengthy commercial intros. A men to that.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
I don't. I don't like that bill. I think that's
a worthless bill.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Well, you like sitting through all the Well do you
go to movies very much? Anyways?

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Well?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I used to, but I knew well now that you
can buy your ticket ahead of time. Remember is first
come for a serve and it? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
that was tough. Yeah, you buy your ticket, you pick
your seat. I full well know I got ten to
twenty minutes of trailers so late. Anyways, of course, Yeah,
it's I don't need a build to tell me when
to go in. I'm just you just have to go
enough movies to know. Is spare me a law?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
You know what has changed my mind about movies? Now?
What rotten tomatoes? I got a rotten tomatoes. I see
the critics like it, the fans like it. I go, okay,
I'll go see it.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Sometimes the critics like it doesn't isn't it?

Speaker 7 (53:27):
Go?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Yeah, don't depend on I look at the people what
they call the people meeting or something.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
So I like the one the lower the critic meter,
but the higher the fan. Yeah, those are the good.
Those are the movies out like go to.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
But this idea that would force theaters to list the
actual start. You know what they're doing. You get in there,
you eat your whole box apart, you know, container of pop.
Then you have to go back out and get another one.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Well, look, man, I know the movie's not starting at
the start time. I know I have time, and so
I come strolling in right about time as movie starts.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
It's good for you.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I'm not a sucker. You're so smart making a lot
to help me figure that out?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
All right? We mentioned yesterday that authorities now have recovered
all sixty seven bodies from that air that midair collision
there at Reagan National Airport. But a lot of questions
continue to be raised about America's air traffic control system. Well,
let's talk more about it. Joining us on our Newsmaker
line right now is John Tierney. John's a good friend,
a contributing editor at City Journal.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
John.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
John.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
You say Americans control system is a international disgrace. What
do you mean by that, John?

Speaker 3 (54:33):
The US used to be the most advanced system in
the world, you know, but now it's it's just so
far behind technologically at the countries it's ahead of US
and using and using computers and using GPS satellites. You know.
For instance, in the control towers in the US, it's
shocking that when a plane takes off, the controller has

(54:54):
to it's a paper that he then has to hand
it off to another controller after it leaves the airport.
And I've seen this in control towers I've been and
I've seen the contrast in Canada, where they have this
modern corporation that runs the airport, is not a government agency,
and they have these sleep computers and they and that's
all handled by computers. They're not, you know, dealing with

(55:15):
pieces of paper around as I wrote a city journal.
It's kind of like going from a modern newsroom back
to you know, a newsroom out of the front page.
They're still using paper and you know, and there are
just so many ways that it's behind the times that
other airports in other countries they have infrared sensors and
the weather's bad, they have high resolution cameras that can

(55:36):
see at night and things. But many of you, as airports,
the controllers still have to look out the window to
figure out where the planes are. And that's why two
years ago there was a FedEx cargo plane that almost
landed on top of the Southwest airliner that was sitting
on the same runway. And the reason they did it
almost collided was that the controller couldn't see that plane

(55:59):
because it was a foggy morning and the STATEX pilot
was descending and he just saw this when he was
one hundred and fifty feet above the ground and he
and he just aborted the landing. He missed a plan
by less than one hundred feet.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
So here, you know, we had a listener. Note that
they have a father or father in law that has
had used to be in the FA for it was
about five or ten years ago, and this would probably
predate maybe the DEI push. But the challenges and finding
good air traffic controllers was you had to be younger
than thirty two years of age. There are tough tests

(56:34):
that you have to pass. Newer controllers get placed in
less desirable places, and it's got a lot of high stress. Now,
if all those factors were the case, and then you
took you took the test and you made them easier
to pass, but you also demanded to have some diversity
in terms of the people the people that would be
the controllers and have a you know, biologic biographical nexus

(56:56):
to it all. Wouldn't that I wouldn't that just amount
to really nobody wanting this job or the thousand would
be controllers who are in a lawsuit currently that said
we passed every test and I got a perfect score
and we were told we couldn't do it. Does the
DEI contribute to this mess that we have with their
traffic controller facilities being so woefully understaffed.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Well, well, the understaffing is just that the FA has
done a terrible job of training enough pilots and the
way it works is that and what they did do
and what was really scandalous was and this started in
the Obama administration. It used to be that, you know,
people who who took air traffic control courses in college,
they're selected to be trained by the FAA. And then

(57:39):
Obama came in and said, no, we're we're stopping that
and from now on and we're going to use this
biographical questionnaire that and it's still a mystery, and this
is something that I hope Trump's review will find out.
You know, the reports on this questionnaire that would ask, like,
I mean, are their allegations that that if you've been
unemployed for several years, they gave you a leg up

(58:00):
on the you know that? So we don't really know
much about that. And the lawsuit is you know, is
exposing some of it. And I hope that this review
Trump does also do. Now, you know what happened is
after they selected the applicants, you know, using this questionnaire,
they would then go through the regular training and they
had to pass tests there whether or not they dumbed down,

(58:21):
you know, the competency tests or not. That Really it's
all been shrouded in secrecy, which is always great that
you know, we're doing this review of the I and
they should certainly just start doing it. But the larger
problem is higher enough, you know, controllers. They should plan
for this. They should have seemed that a lot of
controllers were retiring, and they shouldn't be short staffed the
way they are now. That's all mismanagement. And the basic

(58:43):
problem is that you know, uh, the KA runs the
system and it's also the watch dog, you know, it's
a safety regulator. It's a huge conflict of interest the
watch dog is watching itself. Whereas other countries Canada, you know,
the other that they have a separate corporation. It's kind
of like a public utility. It can be a private
company it's off in a state owned company, or it's

(59:04):
a non profit corporation that runs the air system and
then that's overseen by by a safety from the government.
And these you know, private corporations they're funded or these
separate corporations they're funded by user fees instead of taxes,
so they can issue their own bonds. They don't have
to you know, you know, fight for a budget appropriation
every year from the legislature and they don't have to

(59:25):
listen to the legislature who's you know, who's micromanaging them,
and you know, say my airport has to get this,
or my airport has to get that. It's a company,
you know, it's a company that can really efficiently and
and the result is if you see in Canada, if
you see in Europe, they have much better, more advanced systems.
They're far ahead technologically because they can move much more quickly.
And that's what we need to do. And people have

(59:48):
in both parties have realized that since the nineteen nineties.
But you know, for a while, the air Traffic Controllers Union,
you know, was a big four blocking it. But it
got so bad that by twenty seventeen, then the first
Trump administration, the union threw its support behind us. The
major airlines were behind it, Other unions for pilots were

(01:00:09):
behind it, and it picked up block probably because Congress
didn't want to give up power over the system, and
also because there was opposition from the corporate jet lobby,
which is really scandalous that we're letting them, you know,
dictate policy for everyone else. Because the corporate jets and
the private planes already get a big subsidy. You know,

(01:00:29):
you know, all of us flying coach are basically paying,
you know, helping to pay for the services provided to
these private planes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
John Tuning from City Journal joining us on our Newsmaker
line talking about the air traffic control system in this
country and international disgrace. I wonder, you know, John talked
about visiting the Air Traffic Center a couple of years
ago where they're still shifting the loose slips of paper
from this guide to this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I wonder if they still do that or if that's
been upgraded.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
I'm afraid to know. Nice to get on these planes,
you know. Yeah, I don't even know that they're hand
and paper to each other. Mike, you know, we got
at least walkie talkies going on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Little scary, little scary all right, more coming up on
the Thursday edition of The Rotten Greg Show on Talk
Radio one oh five nine KNRS. Well, every day there's
big news. I mean, like you say, Greg, constantly we
meet in the morning, decide what we're going to do
that afternoon. By the time afternoon rides, we have to
change everything. Yeah, because the world is changing thanks to
Donald Trump. Well, the NCAA following mister Trump's lead from

(01:01:29):
yesterday has agreed to retool its participation rules to exclude
transgender athletes from playing in women's college sports. That's on
the heels, of course, of the executive order signed by
the President yesterday. The President signed it and set the
process in place to rewrite federal Title nine rules to
withhold funding from any school Greg that allows transgender athletes

(01:01:53):
to play in sports. Now, you sent this sound bite
to me today, Greg, I want to play this back.
This is Harry Nton with CNN. He's the and he
found you know, he did some found some fascinating new
information on how the American public feels about men in
women's sports.

Speaker 12 (01:02:09):
Transgender female athletes in women's sports. Only eighteen percent of
the country says that they should be in fact allowed
to participate in women's sports. Compare this to the opposition.
I mean, my goodness, gracious, seventy nine percent. You rarely
get seventy nine percent of the country to agree on anything,
but they do, in fact agree on the idea of
opposing transgend their female athletes in women's sports.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
You can't. It's rare you get seventy nine percent of
the American people to agree on anything, but they agree
that you should keep men out of women's sports.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
And in there. And if the clip goes a little longer,
he says it. In twenty twenty one, it was about
sixty four percent, so a clear majority. It's seventy nine percent.
It is whoever was trying to give that concept of
guys playing girls sports the benefit of the doubt because
the liberals and the leftists were saying, it's such a
small number, you're just picking on people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
You're being able.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Well, it's found its way into you know, it's found
its way into the Olympics, Division one college sports. Uh,
it's into the Grammys now or the what the Academy
awards now you name it. So I just think that
it's or is it Grammy's, I don't know what, but
I thing about it anyway, it's it's not just this
micro minority and this decimal dust it is. It is growing,

(01:03:24):
and their narratives wrong. That's why again that when you
get seventy nine percent or seventy one percent, it's not
that's not Republicans or Democrats or independent that's everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah. Well, one of those people who still thinks is
a very very small number of people of being affected
by this is now other than Katie Turr from MSNBC.

Speaker 13 (01:03:44):
It's not zero, but one one in the entire state
of Utah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
The numbers are really small.

Speaker 13 (01:03:50):
And I point that out because it became such a
big campaign issue. It made it seem like it was
happening everywhere and that every you know, girls team was
at risk of either having unfair competition or, as the
President just said, being beat up by somebody. I'm struggling

(01:04:11):
to understand unless it's just pure, a pure politics play,
why there's so much attention on an issue that is
just so infinitesimally small and you're just talking about a
handful of kids. You're really just targeting a handful of kids.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
You know my response to that, Greg, if there's one instance,
that's enough, that's enough to prevent this from happening.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
But that you can't keep saying it's infinitesimally small when
whatever that small number, what's the odds of that number
that you can't count? These so small make seeing it
in the Olympics, seeing it in the oscar, seeing it
in our college, I mean Utah State girls volleyball, they're
seeing it. If it's so infinitesimally small. How are we

(01:04:55):
dealing with it? And how did the conference, the Western
Athletic Conference and all or Mount West Conference. Excuse me
that all those schools that would not play San Jose
State because of this seems to be a bit bigger
than infinitesimal that alone. I mean, it's just a false
narrative that they're pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
I wonder Greg if Katie Turrer has a daughter, and
what would happen if if she has a daughter who
has trained like crazy and whatever sport or activity that
she wants to enjoy, and it's very good at it,
but then enters a competition and it's beaten out by
a woman who is actually a man. I wonder how
she'd feel. I wonder what she would say to her daughter. Oh,

(01:05:34):
don't worry, Durland. It's just a small number of athletes.
But too bad you lost the championship.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Yeah, yeah, no, the sympathy would be very different.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
And I'll tell you this though, I heaven helped the
parents who buy into this liberal and they let their
children become castrated chemically or physically. And it does come
with it there, you know, the mental baggage that comes
with that that we haven't even begun to see because
it's such a new and emerging, you know, practice of
just taking these miners and permanently and forever changing their lives.

(01:06:09):
They're going to have to live as parents with not
protecting or keeping their children safe.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
And in a related story today, Greg, I want to
mention this. Three former University of Pennsylvania's women swimmers alleged
they suffered an emotional trauma by having transgender swimmer Leah
Thomas as a teammate, as they called for the Ivy
League to get rid of the records. They're saying, we
don't want Leah Thomas's records on any of these swimming

(01:06:35):
anmals whatsoever. We want them eliminated. That's what they're going
for now.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
So listener, I just thowt so Katie Turr discusses a
strange father becoming transgender MSNBC and chor Katie Urr, we're
talking about the same one. Yeah, said that she's puzzled
when her now a strange father has now become is
now transgender. So I'm looking at pictures so maybe that
that's part of it, that's part of her dad is

(01:07:01):
So now she's you know onto the college sympathetic.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
All right, more coming up on the Roden greg Show
in Utah's talk radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
We got so much going on in the state legislature
right now. And when I got out of the legislature,
I didn't realize that people didn't know there was a
general session going on. I thought everybody knew it was
on the front of everybody's mind. Turns out it's not.
But here on the Roden Gregg Show, and we have
we see important legislation being pushed, and we see good
policy being promoted. We want to make sure you know
all about it. So we've asked Representative State Representative Ken Ivory,

(01:07:33):
a longtime friend of mine, to join us on the program.
Talk about a bill called federal It's a federalism bill,
and it's it's gonna sound so intuitive. You're going to say,
why does this have to be a bill? But let's
let's have have Ivory on the program.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Can explain to us what the bill is all about
when it comes to federalism.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
Yeah, we do. It's Hospital three eighty. It's the name
of it is presumption of state jurisdiction and and Rodd
here's how crazy it is. The presumption is that the
state has jurisdiction overall governing matters unless it's something that's
in the Constitution as amended, delegated to our federal partner.

(01:08:16):
And if the federal government asserts something other than in
the Constitution as amended, it's their responsibility their burden to
prove where they have jurisdiction over the states. And so
it's just an attempt and a method to rebalance the
roles and responsibilities between the state and our federal governing partner.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Hmmm, presumption of state jurisdiction? Could we call this to
read the Constitution Act representative? It sounds like it sounds
very familiar to me, you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Know it exactly, Greg, It's like that. But you know,
we've got federal agencies and others come in and they
say supremacy, you lose. You have to do what we say.
But the supremacy clause is only those few and defined
things that were delegated to the federal government. The Supreme
Court repeatedly has quoted Federalists thirty nine, where Madison says

(01:09:13):
the states formed distinct, independent portions of the supremacy, no
more subject to the federal government in their general sphere
of responsibility than the federal government is subject to the
states and it's limited sphere of responsibility. And we just
got to reset that balance.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Ken, give us an example. You kind of laid out
how this may work. But how would this affect the
state of Utah its relationship with the federal government and
the ability to use some be able to use some
of the public lands that they currently hold. How would
this affect that relationship?

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Yeah, that's great. I had great question, Rod, and it
obviously goes beyond just public lands. But I'll give you
a specific example. In twenty thirteen, represented Mike Noel ran
a bill to clarify law enforcement jurisdiction. We had the
thing going on with Bondie, the people in Nevada and whatnot.
And later after that we had the special Agent of

(01:10:07):
the BLM who was in charge of that raid and
the Forest Service special agent here in our capital boardroom,
and he started telling us under my proprietary jurisdiction, I
can do this that and the other proprietary this and
proprietary that. When he got done, I said, special Agent Love,
would you mind telling us what is this proprietary jurisdiction

(01:10:27):
you talk about, and where does.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
It come from?

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
And Rod he just went silent and got read in
the face and he said, ah, well, the lawyers could
tell you. I said, great, would you have the lawyers
get us a memo? And eleven years later, we still
don't have one because there's no such thing as proprietary jurisdiction.
But if we don't know to ask, and if we
don't know to say, do you really have authority? Because

(01:10:52):
the general power of governing is in the state and
local government. The limited, few and defined things are our
federal authority, and that together is the governing partnership that
makes up what the founders called our federal government. They
called what happened in DC the national government. It was

(01:11:13):
that partnership that is the federated or federal government, and
we just lost touch of that. And so we're just
resetting the balance because right now, rod Get, this former
represented spend level was presenting at the Taxpayers before the
session the Taxpayers Association. He presented a slide that the
number two federal expense right now is interest on the

(01:11:35):
national debt, and it's growing ten times faster than anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
So represent Vibry I want to put it, and I
know this, that this a sovereign state, and the way
we have a state in the west of the Mississippi
Western states, in particularly Utah, it's very different the relationship
between our states and the federal government than say those
states are east of the Mississippi and how those lands
were transferred. But just even there, how the federal government
worked in their lives is not as pervasive, I would

(01:12:03):
argue as Western states. But here's an example. So if
you live along the Watatch Front, you're not really confronted
with federal lands or federal control or federal decisions on
things as simple as search and rescue, you name it.
But what happens is you get That's why eighty percent
seventy five to eighty percent of all of Utah lives
in four counties along the Watatch Front. As soon as
you get outside of that, you can front counties that

(01:12:25):
have eighty percent federally controlled and owned land ninety percent.
It's very difficult for a state like ours to grow
its population growth outside of a valley that's getting pretty crowded.
If we don't see ways of moving infrastructure and broadband
and water and all those things into corridors that right
now the federal government controls and basically right now has

(01:12:46):
been saying no to Utah's attempts at managing our own state.
So maybe you could share with our listeners just I
know you just a little bit with Rod, but give
an example of what what would it mean to the
state of Utah if we actually did of state jurisdiction
and we were able to grow, and we were able
to bring infrastructure to the whole state. What would it

(01:13:06):
mean maybe for quality of life, cost of living for
a Utah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
Yeah, that's great, great question. So just yesterday I was
in a meeting with officials from Wayne County and they
have three percent taxable land in their entire county, and
seventy percent of that is green belt three percent. You know,
most of the states east of the Rockies they fund
education through property tax. Statewide, we have twenty percent taxable land,

(01:13:37):
and then we wonder why we struggle to fund education.
For example, in twenty sixteen, the Government Accountability Office, testifying
to Congress said there's more recoverable oil in Utah, Colorado, Wyoming,
that little circle than the rest of the world combined,
and one hundred trillions of dollars in rare earth elements,

(01:13:58):
all the rare earth elements that China is holding us
over the barrel. But worse yet, as you know, Greg,
with the federal government controlling nearly seventy percent of our
land and exerting even more control than that, we can't
do emergency emergency communication lines, we can't do roads and
power lines and you know, different power equipment. We can't

(01:14:19):
access the rich natural resources we've been blessed with as
good responsible stewards. But then moreover, the federal government right now,
at least until January, has been shutting off thousands of
miles of roads and trails and the places that we
go to recreate and hunt and fish. And you know

(01:14:41):
our people that have grazing and mining, Well, we've got,
as you know, Greg, hundreds of bills that we've passed
that no, we protect multiple use and sustain yield of
the lands as good stewards. But you know, those thousands
of miles away, they can't pronounce tuwill a little and
find it on a map, and they're issuing governing edicts

(01:15:04):
for our state. That's not the way our system was designed.
It was designed so that we can self govern and
we can mobilize to the capital and talk to our
neighbor who's our representative over things that concern our life, liberty, property,
And then our federal governing partner takes care of world

(01:15:25):
peace and sound monetary system and roads between the states,
and patents and trademarks and those few things, and the
states take care of everything that concerns our daily life.
The Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts has said that repeatedly
and even recently, and we're just completely out of balance.

(01:15:46):
And like any organization, when you don't frequently review the
org chart and make sure your organization's in alignment, you
get off track. And as a nation, we're trillions of
dollars off track in debt, devaluing our currency, you know,
federal employees and accountability issues. And it doesn't matter red

(01:16:10):
or blue. I don't want a red king or a
blue king. I want a self governing system that I
can pass to my children that is stable for the
next two hundred and fifty years?

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Can I agree? Stay representive? Joining us on our news
miac A line talking about federalism, he mentioned some startling numbers. Greg,
I mean, what do you say, two or three percent
of Grand county is taxable.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Wayne County has three percent of its entire county is taxable,
and most of that is green belt, which is farmland,
which is the lowest property tax rate you can find.
So can you imagine an entire county of which there's
only three percent of which you can live on and
your property is taxing. It means that, Yeah, it's it's
I when we live on the Wahsage Front, we don't know,

(01:16:56):
we don't realize how overbearing the federal government and is
to Utahn's I mean it's and that's why I love
President Trump because he came and he they they not
only is it three percent, but they the left would
take more if they can get away with it. And
the problem is that in poor Lil Wayne County, they
don't have enough people to make enough rack ruckus to
get anyone's attention. But Trump came in here and he said,
Obama's bear's ears. Now we're gonna pull that battery and

(01:17:18):
make that reasonable, so we're not tacking the people of
San Juan County. There was no political upside for him
to do that, and he did it for the small people,
the small you know, Joe and Jane that live in
San Juan County. Uh, because it was the right thing
to do. And you're just not seeing that he did
that in the first term. And I've already seen articles
and he's gonna correct that wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Apparently did and apparently the new Interior Secretary, Doug Bergham
is taking a look at it to see. All Right,
Moore coming up with Rod and Gregg on talk radio
one oh five nine k NRS. President went before the
National pre breakfast today and spoke.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Right he did. I've been waiting. I've had this clip
since this morning. I think I've loved this. I love
It's just a quick clip he had. He spoke National
Prayer Breakfast, and I think this breaks some of the
narratives again about Lomald Trump. He's a Nazi, He's this,
he's that, he's everything bad that you can imagine every
moral failing he suffers from. Listen to the President talk

(01:18:13):
about the role of God. I'll just let him go.

Speaker 14 (01:18:17):
The element the everything that's going to be happy. People
of religion are going to be happy again. And I
really believe you can't be happy without religion. Without that belief,
I really believe it. I just don't see how you
can do. So, let's bring religion back. Let's bring God

(01:18:38):
back into our lives. Thank you all very much, Thank
you very much, great honor, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I wouldn't have heard Joe Biden or Barack Obama say that,
would you. No?

Speaker 6 (01:18:48):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
And you know what, I really think that the miracle
he lived through in that assassination attempt brought him closer
as well. I think I don't think these are new
beliefs for him, but I do think that there was.
I don't know how you come out on the other
side of something as miraculous as that was without taking
some inventory and knowing it. But if you've listened to
those around him, that did have a profound effect. And

(01:19:10):
I could tell I think I think his those comments
were very heartfelt.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
How could that not change anyone's life? You came within
him what I don't know, even though, how to measure
it for crying out loud, of having your head blown apart?
And how can that change your life? How can it not?

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
And now I'll tell you that everyone's mentioning and it's
they Some just attribute it to the confidence of a
second term in the in the in the gap between
where you had Biden showing the country how bad it
can be. But I think there is a piece about him,
and I think he knows that there's some providence involved
in what he's meant to do right now. And I
think he and I think it does. I think it

(01:19:48):
has impacted in a positive way his demeanor, and so
I do. I think. I love that he spoke at
the prayer breakfast. I love that he is unapologetic about religion.
We need to bring it back, we need to bring
back God back into our lives. I think those are
messages that every president should say, but I don't think
I've heard it enough. And I love hearing them say it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
All right, final note, new study out What is your
happiest time of the day? When are you happiest?

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
My happiest when?

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
When? When is the best time of day for you?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Says start with the show. He said at the end
of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
That's coming, What is your happiest time of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
I don't know, really, I really don't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
I'm a morning guy. Yeah, I love getting up in
the morning. I love being up when the sun comes
up because to me, it feels like the earth is
waking up and I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Yeah, yeah, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
And I'm most productive. I think I have.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
I haven't worked out, been to the gym regularly in
a long time, but I like that when you're done
with your workout in the morning, like you say, when
the sun's coming up and then you're breathing that air
and it's the morning. That's that's fun. But I actually
judge days by its events, the events of the day
or what hyped up or not well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Study says mornings are the happiest time of day for people,
most people because.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
They haven't they have been awake long enough for it
to get ruined by other people.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
You know, has been ruined as yeah, all right, that
does it for us tonight, as we say each and
every night, head off Childer's back. May God bless you
and your family, miss great, great country of hours. We'll
be back tomorrow at four, won't we yep, see you tomorrow, folks,
Happy time, four o'clock. That's your happiest time this time

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