The Rod and Greg Show: Reaction to Vice Presidential Debate; Tim Walz's Abortion Lies

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Were you surprised by the debate, I got it.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I have the strangest reaction to this debate. It's not
like everyone else's, and that is I thought JD. Vance
would be exactly who I watched. I thought he would be,
So I said yesterday, I'm not stressed at all. He's
incredibly smart, he knows you. I knew he would do very,
very well, and so his performance did not. It's not

(00:23):
like every the media thing. It's a coming out party.
He's unbelievable. We never saw such a thing. I didn't
have that reaction because he was very familiar to the
guy that I that I've known him to be. I
actually even got frustrated over some false accusations. At Walls
keeps getting away with talking about whether it's immigration, abortion, energy,
you name it. And I was cheering in my car

(00:44):
and then at home saying, don't let him say that.
Come back to it. But I will tell you what
has made my day, and that is the regime media,
be it CNN, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Politico, you
name it. They are all saying that that Vance won
and at Walls got crushed. Well, they aren't even they
aren't even like mixed about it. It's a drubbing as

(01:06):
far as they're concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, you know what, and both both you and I
were listening to it on our way home last night,
simply because you know, the debate started at seven and
it takes me usually about a half hour, and I
would imagine about the same amount of time for you
to get home. They were talking about the first fifteen minutes. Now,
on the radio, you can't detect this, Greg, but they
were talking about the first fifteen to twenty minutes of
the debate last night. Little Timmy seemed very, very nervous,

(01:30):
and they're explaining it away that well, he doesn't do
enough interviews, so he needs to do more interviews so
he'll be comfortable in a question and answer type session
like he had last night. They couldn't detect that on
the radio. But if you were watching it last night.
I went back to and watch a little bit, yeah,
I would agree. He looked nervous last night. At times

(01:51):
he got better. I mean, it was so obvious that
he was uncomfortable. That this is where there's a lot
of great clips now, yeah, out there where Because I
don't watch CNN. After anything's over, I'll never watch that network,
but then you start to see on X and you
start to see social media. There was a lot of
criticism a leveled at Tim Walls for not being prepared

(02:13):
or not answering questions as they would hope he would
answer them. I mean, his cheerleading section of the media
were just beside themselves, and I think we have some
clips to share with people, at least some part of
the show where they were not happy with his performance
and felt he was either underprepared or too nervous, or
he had not given enough interviews with the media to
be well versed in the question answer of a debate.

(02:36):
We're going to share with you here in just a second.
I think one of the probably one of the two
highlights coming out of that debate last night. We'll share
that in a minute. But what was a week ago?
I think Greg, we had doctor Carol Lieberman on the show.
She is a psychiatrist and body language expert, and she
helped us analyze the cackle yes you know, so last
night she was asked to analyze the body language of

(02:58):
both JD. Van's Tim Walls. Here's what she said about
JD Vance. What did JD Vans had that made him
most likable and most trusted. Guess what it was? What
she claims, he was authentic what a lot of people
want in a politician now days. You could just say
it in one word. Jd Vance was authentic. He did

(03:20):
big hand movements and so on, but they were just
to explain what he was saying. Jd Vance came across
as being very steady, like you can kind of see
him as the captain of a ship. And he wasn't
stiff at all last night. Now that's a body language expert.
Now let's talk about little Timmy. You're ready for this?

(03:42):
With Tim Wall, she says, he was all over the place.
He was very nervous, and he also had body language
signs of line. His body language.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Was it was like too much. It made you feel
exult and scared, especially when he went bug eyed. Yeah,
you know again, I'm just I'm just very I'm so
I look. I thought that I thought that there was
a folk scene. This is going to have our listeners

(04:14):
crazy about that. There's a folksiness to him. Yeah, there
were walls and I wondered if and as I watched Dvance,
trying to imagine myself as a Southwest Pennsylvania voter, the
ones that don't like politics and do not trust politicians.
Those those voters, I wondered if Advance was going coming
across too slick or too poised or too polished, and

(04:34):
if if Walls's folksiness was maybe carrying the day. So
I'm having those thoughts. When the debate's over, it's an
avalanche of criticism towards Walls and praise towards Vance. And
I think what really happens in a debate like that.
You have probably a strong audience that watched, But where people,
the everyday people or voters are likely voters that are

(04:56):
going to vote, are going to get their information or
impressions of Walls or Vance will be from the media
coverage of it. And so that's where that starts to
get defined more and more. And if you if you
didn't see the debate and you only looked at the commentary,
you would think it was a knockout that that Walls
was was an as it was amateur ninety minute, an
hour and a half and he had no shot. I

(05:17):
didn't see him that bad in a lot real time.
But the memes are just hilarious.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I love them.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I did think he did a little bit better than
most people thought he came across okay, of course he
had mistakes. He didn't answer the China question about him
claiming he was in Tienneman Square back in the eighties.
We will play that.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was pretty was pretty bad. And then when he
said he liked school shooters, No, he knows scho school shooters.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
He knows school shooters. Well, that's not that's a little weird.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I don't know if you should be bragging about that.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
That's my yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Something.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Now, the key moment of this remember the ABC debate
and the moderators got attacked for fact checking almost everything
Donald Trump said. Well, going into this debate, CBS News
basically saying we aren't not going to fact check during
the debate. Well, guess what they did. They fact checked JD.
Vans when he talked about what's going on in Springfield,

(06:08):
Ohio with the Haitian refugees. I want you this to
me was the key of the debate last night because
it showed JD. Vance was not going to put up
with this. Listen to this exchange, and just.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
To clarify for our viewers', Springfield, Ohio does have a
large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status temporary
protected maura.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
But thank you, senator.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
We have so much to get to Margaret.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I think it's important to turn out of the economy.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
Thanks Margaret.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
The rules were that you got in a fact check,
and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important
to say what's actually going on. So there's an application
called the CBP one app where you can go on
as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for
parole and be granted legal status at the wave of
a Kamala Harris open border Wand that is not a

(06:57):
person coming in applying for a green cart and waiting
for ten years.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Thank you, senatoration of a legal immigration Margaret Boy.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
Thank you senator for describing the legal process. We have
so much to get the Senator have.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Sell much the book since nineteen ninety.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Thank you, gentlemen.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
We want to have that has not been on the books.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Something gentlemen, Wow, wow, they killed his bike. Yeah, and
he told the truth and everybody it was not in
existence since nineteen ninety. Then they did wave a wand
and make something that was illegal until she got They
got there and made it legal.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, he was right.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, he was right. So he he fact checked them
and he was absolutely right. And now the media, now
you had some information greg on one of the moderators,
Margaret Brennan, Yeah, was one of the CBS moderators along
with the old Donald least Laura o'donnald looked fair, which
is pretty hard to do. But you found a little
bit interesting background information on Margaret breaking news.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
This is just coming out now. Records reveal the husband
of CBS to moderator Margaret Brennan, who last night rudely
fact checked falsely that's my words and interrupted Trump running
mate jd Vance her her her so that who did it?

Speaker 8 (08:13):
Her?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Uh spouse worked as a strategic advisor for the Anti
Trump Lincoln Project in twenty twenty. Yado Yakub Yacub also
donated to its pack.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
So yeah, yeah, so the husband of the moderator, I mean, honestly,
just flip the script. Let's get on Fox News. Let's
have one of the moderators be you name the person
if their spouse was part of the fire breathing, foaming
at the mouth, and tie the person that they're treating
poorly in a debate they would say, there's not there's

(08:47):
not enough separation there. The household is making money on
the campaign or working for a pack that makes money
going after Trump, she enjoys. She literally pro her household
profits from it. And she's going to sit there as
a so called unbiased model and ask questions. And it's
not even close. I mean, the America can watch this
and just like ABC, it's a joke. It's an absolute joke.

(09:09):
It's they don't even try to be even handed here.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Be transparent, but they never will be. All right, We've
got a lot more worre and'll be talking about the
debate world. Dig into that story that Kamala and every
Democrat is out there talking about the abortion story involving
this woman from Georgia who died, according to the Democrats,
because she had to travel to a different state to
get an abortion. We're going to tell you the truth

(09:34):
behind that story, coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.
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If any of you were able to watch the debate
last night, what you thought about JD Vanson's performance? You said, Greg, today,
you know, it's really not going to move the needle
that much, but it may give the Trump campaign at

(09:55):
least a little momentum. Am I phrasing that right?

Speaker 9 (09:58):
Yep?

Speaker 10 (09:58):
I do.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I don't think there's any vice presidential debate that will
ever dictate the outcome of a presidential election. So if
you're looking for that, I don't think you're going to
see that statistically, impols or anywhere else. But if you
watch that debate, I do believe that Vance helped measurably
helped Trump in his candidacy. I think you see saw
a solid vice president that if he's a whisper away

(10:21):
from the heartbeat away from the presidency, this Senator Walls
or Senator Vance is ready for the job. And I
don't know that everybody understood that. So I think he
helped Trump. I do not think that Governor Walls. I
don't think he harmed Kamala, but he certainly didn't help
anything with the same kind of measure that Vance helped Trump.
I don't think that Walls helped Kamala at all.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You know, one of the issues that Kamala Harris is
trying to make an important issue in this campaign is
the debate over abortion. They keep on talking about abortion,
even though if you look at the list of concerns
that Americans have right now, abortion sits anywhere from third
to fifth on the list of issues that they're concerned about. Well,
Timmy Walls last night during the debate, decided to bring

(11:04):
up the abortion issue and talked about a certain woman
in Georgia and what happened to her. Here's what he said.

Speaker 11 (11:10):
There's a young woman named Amber Thurman. She happened to
be in Georgia, a restrictive state. Because of that, she
had to travel a long distance to North Carolina to
try and get her care. Amber Thurman died in that
journey back and forth. The fact of the matter is,
how can we as a nation say that your life

(11:31):
and your rights, as basic as the right to control
your own body, is determined on geography. There's a very
real chance had Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, she would
be alive today. That's why the restoration of Roversus waged.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Well, we know that is a lie, and let's get
to the truth behind this woman's story. Joining us on
our Newsmaker line right now is Sean Carney. Sean is
President CEO of forty Days for Life. Sean, thanks for
joining us tonight.

Speaker 9 (12:00):
John.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Let me ask you right off the top, what is
the truth behind this story.

Speaker 12 (12:04):
Yes, it's very simple and very tragic, but not in
the ways that Waltz says. She had an abortion, a
chemical abortion. She took the abortion pills, and she had
an infection because not all.

Speaker 8 (12:19):
The baby parts were passed through her and by the.

Speaker 12 (12:23):
Time she went in, when she went in, the baby
was already dead and the doctors could do nothing for her.
And the Left used this as abortion, you know, would
have saved her life. It wouldn't have at all, and
so that they just made that up. It was quite
the opposite. Abortion is what killed poor Amber. And you know, look,

(12:46):
they exploit fourteen year old great victims. They exploit now
women who are killed by abortion pills, and it's just
a narrative. What is so odd and uncomfortable is their
enthusiasm that a woman, they want a woman to die
from an abortion.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
So, Sean, here's my question, and it actually goes beyond
just this specific issue. I found myself in many moments
of that debate last night, where the answer you just provided,
which would correct the record as well as jd Vance's
has been said to have done last night, I did
not find some basic truths that were clarified. Why does

(13:27):
that story still live on after you have after you've
shown that it has nothing to do with the abortion
issues or the trigger laws. This is this issue is
very sad. No one argues that why do stories like
that live on and why do they not get corrected?

Speaker 12 (13:43):
It's very frustrating. And by the way, what I just
explained is very common. It's not common that they die,
but it's very common that there are parts of the
baby left inside during a chemical abortion. Twenty five percent
of women who take abortion pills end up in the er.
She just waited and waited and waited, and that was
the that was the problem. But that that whole notion.

(14:06):
First off, it's legal for her to get care. That
that's the whole thing of Georgia's evil pro life laws
killed or as absurd. But so it's very common, it's
it's it's a common complication that she had. But the
fact that, yeah, I agree, Vance just absolutely mopped the floor.
He was great, he was charming, he was articulate on everything,

(14:28):
and I felt like he really was horrible on abortion
until the very end when he hit a grand slam
by calling out Waltz on the on the Minnesota abortion
laws which do allow it through forty weeks, and so
you know, it just took him forever to get there.
But why he looked the Trump campaign has just watched abortion.
I mean, there's no doubt I was sad to see

(14:51):
that that virus has also invaded Vance, who seems kind
of bulletproof and who was, you know, immaculate on everything
else last night, So that you know that that's the
problem that you can't just articulate. Look, this is a
like her family may be watching. What's the matter with you?
Abortion is what killed her? Wouldn't have saved her life.
This is a common complication. She had a chemical abortion.

(15:14):
There were parts of her own baby still inside. And
this is the problem with you people wanting to deregulate
abortion pills in a post through America, and.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
That did would living in Florida made any or in
Minnesota made a difference in her life at all, Sean,
because that's whatd.

Speaker 12 (15:34):
Can you imagine that all these people to say if
she were living in my state where I was governor,
she would be alive today.

Speaker 8 (15:43):
It can't be a week after her funeral.

Speaker 12 (15:45):
I mean, you know the family is watching this. These people,
they have absolutely no shame. And I'm telling you that
this is why there's one side of this issue that
takes abortion seriously, and it's the pro life side.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
The other side just acts.

Speaker 12 (16:00):
As if there's no humans involved.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
They get all.

Speaker 12 (16:03):
Sentimental and emotional, but they really don't care about this woman.
They don't care about our family. They love the line
that if you're in Minnesota, should be alive today. Total nonsense.
Wouldn't have changed anything. So you know, it's it's the
risk that they have taken by running on abortion, making
it the number one issue for them, even though it's

(16:23):
number three for most voters five and six according to
Karl Rove. And you know, it's just that both sides
are running horrible campaigns like an NFL game where it's
six to nine and no one wants.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
To So, Sean, I've enjoyed you being on our program.
You've been on before. One of the things that you
noted once to me that just the light bulb went
off is that you said, instead of everyone trying to
frame us or have us have to explain what it
is that what limitations we think are right or wrong.
You've encouraged people to flip the script and say, well,
what limitations, if any do use?

Speaker 13 (17:00):
It?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Is such an intuitive and easy thing to do. I
go back to that debate, but I go back to
the Republicans on this issue that seem to not be
able to handle it, and their silence suggests something very different.
Why do you think they just can't look at a
governor Walls and go, well, do you accept any limitations
at all on abortion? Why don't they flip the script more?

Speaker 12 (17:23):
I don't know. I think he got one of those
in towards the end. But I think it's important too,
whether you're at Thanksgiving, you know, with your aunt, or
certainly in that debate, to make it personal and just say, look, Tim,
I love I. He was calling him Tim, that was great.
Look Tim, let's figure it about the cameras. Let's forget
that we're running for vice president. Let's forget about Donald Trump,

(17:45):
let's forget about Kamala Harris. Just let's just two guys.
When when can an abortion take place or not take place?
And you sleep at night?

Speaker 6 (17:56):
When does it bother you?

Speaker 10 (17:58):
Is it ever?

Speaker 12 (17:58):
Is it forty week?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Is it six weeks if it's fourteen.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
Weeks, and why And I think the here's why that
doesn't come up like that is because I don't think
vance has an answer to that question.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Huh interesting. Okay, well that makes sense to me. I
don't like that, but it sounds right.

Speaker 12 (18:17):
You don't like that, but and I don't like it either.
But that's where Bill Maher is a genius. Because Bill
Maher said, I understand the consistent pro life position, life
begins a conception.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
We got to protect it.

Speaker 12 (18:29):
He said, that makes sense because abortion's murder, you know,
And you know, he said, but I don't know. You're
willing to kill a fifteen week old. That doesn't make
any sense. And so this is I think one of
the challenges for these pro life Republicans in a post
or America is if they don't go life begins a conception,
therefore must be protected. If they don't even go heartbeat Bill,

(18:52):
then they have to say when we can kill babies.
And it's hard to then ask the left, you know,
when we can kill babies? Because the extreme left is
consistent because they say, look, even if the baby survives
the boxed abortion, I mean, the mom doesn't want the kid,
just let it suffocate. That's at least consistent as much

(19:14):
as it is barbaric.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Interesting point that John you're making tonight. We appreciate your time.
Sean Carney PRESIDENCYEO of forty Days for Life right here
on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine k n rs.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't see this. I don't think you see it.
I don't know that our audience would share this sentiment.
But if you were to listen to the regime media,
they're telling you that the only issue, the front burner
issue that all women in America care about, is the
cultural war issue of abortion and being able to abort babies.
That is all they care about. There's there's not inflation,
there's not groceries, there's not formal safety que housing. None

(19:50):
of it matters, just whether you can have an abortion
or not. And so it leaves you wondering, is that
really what is that.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
That're concerned about? Yes, now, well, women are, of course.
I I think you would agree the most coveted voting
block that we have in the country too, the vote
more than men, which I hate that stuff. I mixed
me up. I didn't realize this, but women, more women
than men have voted in presidential League elections since nineteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, that gender gap. I checked with some Utah posters
that women will vote more than men.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
In Utah and I just kind of crazy. Huh. Well,
joining us on our Newsmaker line is great. Just mentioned
a great guest, Penny Nance. Penny is president and CEO
of Concerned Women for Utah. Penny always ready to have
you back on the show. Let me ask you right
now the shoot. Are there issues that are more important
to women in this country today than abortion?

Speaker 5 (20:40):
You're right, You're right.

Speaker 14 (20:41):
In fact, I just got and I know this because
I just got back from doing a ten thousand mile
bus tour in twelve battleground states and met with women
literally from all over the country and every economic walk
of life, you know, everything that you could think of,
and as far as diversity goes. And guess what, the

(21:04):
issue of abortion only came up if I brought it up.
That wasn't the top of mind thing for them. And
I think, you know, I believe that Kamala Harris has
overplayed her hand on the issue, but hey, I don't know,
maybe there's still some fuel left after the overturn of Row.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
And the Dobbs decision.

Speaker 14 (21:20):
I applauded that decision, and now it's on a state
by state basis, and we're happy to have that discussion.
But what I heard about was the fact that women
feel economically insecure. They're trying to care for their families.
They know at the end of the month that they
have less money and they're checking account than they used to.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
They know they're not better off than they were four
years ago.

Speaker 14 (21:42):
They're worried about crime, and they're very angry about what
is happening in the public school system. Their anger over
that has not cooled one bit because now they're seeing
it even more.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
They're seeing young.

Speaker 14 (21:56):
Men show up on the fields and in the pools
with their daughters who are in sports schools.

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Literally in eleven.

Speaker 14 (22:05):
Hundred school districts in this country in thirty eight states
are on the record as saying that they hide from
parents information about their children changing their pronoun changing socially transitioning.
None of that information is being given to parents, and
they resent it.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Penny, I couldn't agree more. I think these kitchen table
issues you're talking about and the protection of your own
children are just so much higher than would be ranked
higher than the cultural war that they want to have
with abortion. Here's my story. Look, I was raised by
strong women. My grandma was a single mom, strong woman.
My mother was a single mom, strong woman, my wife
very strong woman, and my daughter very strong, very opinionated.

(22:44):
So my question is this, Maybe I live in a bubble,
but I don't know anyone, any female in my life
who looks at Kamala Harris and is excited and says
on gender on a woman being president, she's my gal,
she's my candidate. If it is true that women might
vote more than men, which I didn't know till recently,

(23:05):
is that gender gap in the fact that Kamala Harris
by gender as a woman, is that going to galvanize
the female vote in our country because I don't see
it in my own personal life.

Speaker 10 (23:15):
No.

Speaker 14 (23:16):
In fact, if that were true, Hillary Clinton would have
been president. I mean absolutely, women care about much more
than just gender, and frankly, I think it's a little
insulting to us to say that you must vote for
me because I'm a woman, Like, come on, We're fifty
one percent of the population, so we're not even a
minority of the population. I look forward to the day.

(23:37):
Let me speak for myself. I'll look forward to the
day when we have a one president. Yes, that will
be nice, but it's not going to be in my
opinion is we will not be well served with the
policies of Kamala Harris. We want someone that is in
line with our opinions. If we're going to vote for
a woman, our policies, her policies must come first.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
You know, I love Margaret Thatcher. I think you know
we're here at.

Speaker 14 (24:01):
This moment with all the international news that we're watching,
and you know, at our organization, we're praying for Israel.
But you know, someone once said about Margaret Thatcher. I
thought this was so funny and actually fitting that she
had She had the lips of Marilyn Monroe, but she
had the eyes of Caligula.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Someone was a tough woman.

Speaker 14 (24:24):
And at this time in our history in the United States,
and we really stand on the brink of World War three,
we need a strong leader that the other leaders of
this world that putin and she and the Iyatolas and
the Mullahs in Iran all are worried about.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
They need to be worried about our leader. They do
not need to.

Speaker 14 (24:48):
They do not respect weakness, They only respect strength. And
as also the mother of an active duty uh for
second lieutenant in the Army, I have a son in uniform.
All these shoes matter to us military moms for sure.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Penny, you mentioned you've taken a tour of the country.
I think you mentioned you were in twelve swing states
over the past several weeks and months. How would you
assess women and their feelings toward their standing in America today?
Do they feel as strong as ever was? How would
you assess their feelings?

Speaker 5 (25:19):
Well, they don't feel better. That they're doing better than
they were four years ago.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
We understand that for sure, and that they know that.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
And that's the question, right.

Speaker 14 (25:29):
I think they have a lot on their mind and
they feel disrespected by the government. When you get between
a woman and her children, you are in a very
dangerous place, my friend, And that is what has been happening.
And so I think that they underestimate the power of
that issue. Actually they're not. I have to say I
was worried about that because I didn't think they were

(25:49):
talking about enough. It wasn't really mentioned a ton in
the debate that President Trump had with Kamala Harris.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
But I just read that the Trump A campaign is.

Speaker 14 (26:00):
Going up on that issue in as millions and millions
of dollars in the swing states, and so that is
the right message. I think they're going to get attention
of women who feel strongly on that issue. That is
actually an issue that has u It's a wedge issue.
It also it is impactful both to Republicans and Democrats
and independence anyone that's persuadable.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
That's a great issue to be talking about.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, I just I need you to tell me ten
thousand miles toured across our battleground states. Give me the
polls say they're close. That's actually better than Donald Trump
saw as a candidate in sixteen or in twenty. He
always under polls. There's a shy Trump vote for for
a lot of different reasons. Yes, Penny, give.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Me and there.

Speaker 14 (26:47):
I'm just going to be straight up with you, guys.
I have I have endorsed President Trump. I will vote
for him again. I love President Trump.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
I like it that he's strong.

Speaker 14 (26:56):
I feel like if he stands up to bullies, and
I feel safer with him as president. But are there
is a group of women that is turned off by him,
by his rhetoric, by his style.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
The question for them is do his tweets matter that much?
Is his style so off putting.

Speaker 14 (27:16):
To you that you are willing to think to hold
your nose vote for someone else that you don't think
makes you safe and who you don't think is a
good representative of your position, and not particularly helpful economically.
In fact, could be tragic for a nation if the
Biden rules of making half of our cars evs.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
By twenty thirty.

Speaker 14 (27:39):
I mean there's all sorts of consequences for that, including
us being more dependent for the batteries and the components
of the batteries on China. So I think the question
is really about the issues, and what we have done
is we have on our website something that just compares
based on our seven core issues two candidates. It is

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specifically from the platforms of the Republicans and the Democrats.
I would suggest perhaps if you have someone that's persuadable,
and we all know the people that aren't.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Persuadable, right, some people are so dug in it doesn't
matter what you say. Forget that.

Speaker 14 (28:15):
If you know somebody in your life that's persuadable and
are vacillating. I would say, go print that out and
just show it chilmen. Let them see where the two
candidates stand and let them make an informed decision.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
And that's what we aim to do.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Benny Nann's she is a president and CEO of Concerned
Women for America, talking about this debate over women voters
and what they are really concerned about. A lot of
women are out there saying, yes, abortion is important, but
I've got other concerns like affordability and taking care of
the family, and you know, making sure the schools are safe,
and there are other concerns out there. Greg, I think

(28:48):
you would certainly agree with that. All right, Mare coming
up real quick. Baseball players are on. I love baseball
this time of year, and I'd like pirates are well
forget since there it'll be there. Talk about a class act.
A Chicago Cubs player Ian Hap rewarded some fans at
Wrigley Field as part of his ongoing tradition to support

(29:10):
loyal fans. All right, the Cubs lost their last game
three nothing to the Reds, finishing they missed the playoffs. Hap, however,
made it his goal to pay it forward to the
typically rowdy Cubs fans. What he did was he took
a baseball, wrapped three one hundred dollars bills around it,
threw it into the crowd and said, go have a

(29:30):
drink on me. Go have a beer on me.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Ian former pirate Ya he played for.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
The Yeah, he wrapped the ball with three one hundred
dollars bills, yelled at him, here, go have a beer
on me, and threw it into the fans last game
of the year.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's an expensive beer. Well know how much that caught
the beer costs it a ballpark? Not three hundred bucks,
twelve bucks, fifteen bucks. Hopefully they share over cut that
ball like it's gonna cost me bills.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I think baseball players have a great ter connection with
their fans than any other athlete today.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I well, I think you're right, only because of the
number of games in the way the parks are laid
out close to our to them.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, all right, we'll talk about the debate, and I
wonder what life is like inside the Harris household tonight,
breaking news on her new Man. Here we go votes
a lot to get to this hour. We want to
hear from you tonight, our great listeners, who Greg gets
characterizes is the smartest listeners in all the land, all

(30:32):
the land, and get your thoughts on the on the
debate last night. By the way, the numbers are in
forty three million people watched it. Wow, that is actually
for a vice presidential debate. Yea three million people watch
it last night. Now, before we talk about the day
the debate last night and get to your phone calls,
there's a bit of trouble for the second gentleman right

(30:54):
now with these stories breaking debate about a little Dougie
m Hoff.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
So how would you like to do this? Thanks, Roger?

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Would you like to.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
We'd like that, or would you like the premise of
what the Democrats are trying to sell Dougie as Dougie fresh?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Why don't we go to how they're trying to sell Dougie. Okay,
here's the modern man so to speak.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Right, so, folks, here's about twenty six seconds of Jensucke
talking about the new masculinity of doug Mhoff and how
he is just a new and an improved man. Right
there we go.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Important part of an interesting part of how people have
talked about your role here is how your role has
reshaped the perception of masculinity. And I'm not sure you've
planned on that, but you are an incredibly supportive spouse.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Has that been an evolution for you?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And do you think that's part of the role you
might play as first gentleman.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's funny. I've started to think a lot about this.
I've always been like this. My dad was like this,
And to me, it's the important.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Part of an interesting part of how people have talked
about your role here is how your role has reshaped
the perception.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
The perception of.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
My dad was like this. Well, like what, let's hear
some of the details of this new reshaped masculinity. What
does it include?

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Well, remember the story about he impregnated his nanny, yes,
in his first marriage, right and cardinal knowledge she had,
she got pregnant. And now we've got word that he
paid totally paid her eighty thousand dollars to shut up.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Okay, okay, that's very masculine. Now the new angle, it's
like Harvey Weinstein masculine right now. The new angle coming
out on this tonight is with another girlfriend, he slapped
her so hard that she turned her body completely around.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, violent domestic violence. So let's see, that's a people's money,
much money, and now a case of domestic violence. But
he is a model of a modern man.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Maybe General say, well, Psakio, say what did she deserve it?
Was she a Republican? Maybe she was Republican. That's why
maybe she wanted us vote for Trump. See there's always reasons, right,
maybe she deserved it. So that isn't a really good
reshape of masculinity. But that is what they're selling over there.
They're selling this is Doug em Hoff, the potential first

(33:14):
gentleman new masculinity. I don't know, I don't know if
the record is one that you'd want to your your
young men to emulate.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
And they get after Trump. Yeah, and here's little Dougie.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
All right, let's get to your phone calls. We've got
a lot of reaction to what happened last night. We'll
play that for you. But we've had calls come in
already tonight, So you are our first priority as always
eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple
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your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod.
Reaction to the debate last night we began in American
fork with Pascal. Pascal, how are you welcome to the show?

Speaker 9 (33:50):
Hey, bus Hey.

Speaker 15 (33:53):
I think there was a missed opportunity last night for
Vance and the Republican Party in that he could have
asked Ti to me, hey, where's Kamala Harris tonight? And
he would have said, well, she's probably in California fundraising.
And he could say, well, where's Donald Trump tonight? Uh,
he's Imploria with the victims hading out water bottles.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Ah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
That's a very good point. I found myself.

Speaker 16 (34:19):
Those optics are huge.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
They are they are. I found myself, like Pascal, actually
answering some of the questions myself for wanting to hear
certain points made. I wasn't as bullish on how great
of mid night it was for Vance. He was the
guy I thought he'd be, and but the but the
wave of approval of him was just it's so great.
So let's go back. Let's go to Russ, who's been
waiting from Tremont and Russ, welcome to the Rod and

(34:42):
Greg Show. What did you think about the debate last night?

Speaker 17 (34:46):
No, I think it was awesome. I think Jamie Vance
held his own, especially against the moderators again, the two
things I love the most. I wish they would still
push a little further on though. Is the the topic
of the immigration bill? You know, the the we skip
trying to just interrupt in interupt saying, Oh, it's bipartisan.
I'm sick of him saying it was a bipartisan bill. However,

(35:06):
Trump knocked it down if it was bill, if it were,
if it was a bipartisan bill, and it wouldn't matter
if Trump supported it or not. Am I wrong to
think that one man can't make that big of a difference,
especially if he's not the president no more you are. Yeah,
they can say it would be politically expedient, but it
wasn't by partisan right if you.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
You must have Rod's phone, because I texted him this
last night. I said, if I have to hear this
bill described as a bipartisan bill, if it was, it
would have passed. Donald Trump is not a member of
the Senate. And it died at the hands of Democrats
as much as it did anything so, and it was
a garbage bill beginning to end. Really he let Walls
mention that like three times, and it was driving me crazy.

(35:45):
Thank you Russ for pointing that out.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Thank you, Russ. We do appreciate that. You're absolutely right.
I mean, this keeps on coming up, and so you
know what, We're gonna find somebody over the next two
days to get on the show and explain what happened
to that bill? Yes, well, I want to get the
true to this. I know Langford from Oklahoma was pushing this,
but what happened to it? Yes, because the Democrats saying, well,
you know Donald Trump picked up the phone cold and

(36:09):
said kill it. They killed it.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
We had a guest, said Democrat senators. There were Democrat
senators that were not supportive of this bill. It takes
you know, that bill either passes or a dozen in
the Senate doesn't take Donald Trump. And they always say
he's the one that gave the high sign of the signal?
Are you kidding me? Him and McConnell and Schumer all
talking Give me a.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Break eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one
zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero,
or on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen and
say hey, Rod, all right, I want to bring up
a point that has bugged me about this since the
debate happened last night. I haven't had a chance to
share it. I am. You know, everybody was talking about
wasn't it nice to have a civil debate? I have
even said that there was just civility in that debate

(36:50):
last night, two people arguing their their points and not
yelling your name calling it at each other. Wasn't it
nice to have a civil debate?

Speaker 9 (37:00):
I am in that, Yes, she was.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Tuesday did not need two guys screaming over each other.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
If I could use this word on the ear, I would,
But I'll just say farm excrement, okay, because that's what
that is. And let me tell you why, Let me
tell you why you're hateful here? No hear my opinion.
Everybody says, you know, and they all look toward Trump.
You know, it's all Donald Trump's fault. That is that
you cannot have a civil debate, right, It's his fault
Donald Trump. Since June fifteenth of twenty fifteen, when he

(37:30):
came down the golden escalator there at Trump Tow, Remember
that he has been called every name in the book.
Would you agree. I don't know if there's a name
out there that Donald Trump has never been called. Okay,
and now you expect a man like Donald Trump, who
you you know you've met him before. I never have,

(37:53):
but his reputation he comes from the rough and tumble
world of real estate in New York City. Donald Trump
is not to back down from anybody, so he can
be called hitler, a fascist, a homophobe, a xenophobe, you
name it, a racist. And he's supposed to go on
stage with people like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and

(38:14):
hands and the moderator shake hands and play nights with
them so we can have a civil debate. Bull farm experiment.
I'm sorry when I heard that. I keep on hearing
this today and I go, what do you expect from
Donald Trump? You as a you've been a politician, Greg, Yes,
you know you know people, a public servant, a public servant,

(38:34):
people calling you name after name after name, and then
people in.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
The public expect you will just be nice to people. No, yeah,
well that's my opinion. Yes, and I hear you, and
I don't disagree with what you're saying. You said they
were civil, Yes, and I will tell you why I
liked last night, okay, because both sides were giving respect
to one another. So Walls brings up that his son
saw a shooting or something like that, and I I

(39:00):
thought it was a very human moment where Van said,
I I was unaware that your son saw that, and
I am sorry. I'm sorry that that happened. I thought
moments like that you don't see in exchanges in politics.
And I thought that that raised the bar on the
on the debate. And I like that the Democrats didn't.
Now what they're saying is not what you're saying, Rod.
They're saying they are just fit to be tied, that

(39:21):
Walls had any level of decorums work or or respect
for for Vans. I have a clip here. I don't
know if we want to play it, but I mean
where they're just so. It's on CBS after the debate
where the guy is just beside himself that that that
Walls was civil at all. He thought it was a
complete misstep to be to be respectful to Walls. Wow,
and you're saying that, you're it's natural that Trump and

(39:44):
others aren't going to be when they're attacked. Walls isn't
attacking and they and these these compteis are mad that
they didn't take a billy club to their heads.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Yeah, it drove me nuts. Least this was a civil debate.
We'd all like civil debates when both sides can be civil.
And the Democrats have never taken two to tango to
dominate Trump.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Well, it takes two to tango. I thought they both
did it well last night.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
We're going to play some audio for you, and we
want more your phone calls eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero, triple eight five seven eight zero
one zero, or on your cell phone, all you do
is have to dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rud.
As expected, the reaction to the debate tonight has varied
quite a bit, but I think Greg you would agree
most people feel that JD. Vans won it.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, yes, I mean even Democrats. I was taken back
by how dominant the media was willing to give this
debate to JD. Vance in the In the CNN Flash poll, JD.
Van's got fifty one percent. There hasn't been a Republican
candidate vice presidential candidate in a debate that's ever hit
fifty ever. It's the first time ever, and they've been

(40:48):
doing it for a long time. Chris Cuomo on News Nation,
he praised Vance and said that fact checking the fact
checker who had no business. Fact checking was brilliant. Talked
about that the New York Times when their headline says,
Vance's dominant debate performance shows why he's Trump's running mate.

Speaker 9 (41:07):
Man.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
That is a that is a white flag. Make the
pain go away. Don't ever put those two on a
stage again. The media doesn't want to see that. There
was meltdowns on MSNBC, which was a lot of fun.
Here's the part I want to play because it comes
back to what you were saying about. If the Democrats
are going to be that disrespectful and really run on
a campaign of hate and fear him, then why would

(41:29):
you ever ask Trump, with his personality or anyone else
to try and you know, hug it out.

Speaker 13 (41:35):
Well.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Walls didn't take that approach. There was a respectful, you know,
discussion between these two vice presidential candidates, and it drove
the Democrats insane. Let me, let me let you play.
This is on CBS after the vice presidential debate with
their people at the desk, the talking heads, Let's have
a listen.

Speaker 18 (41:52):
I think the civility that we saw tonight may be
a mistake by Democrats. Quite frankly. I talked about the
outset of energizing this base. I was just in Ohio
and many Democrats were livid about what's going on in Springfield.
I think Walts missed an opportunity to really push the
racial insensitivity there. There was a sense of trying to

(42:14):
be affable, as John said, and I think what we're
going to see from this point on is the civility
being laid aside. And as we've said, from from this
point on, gloves are off.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
I think, wow, I think this.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
So they don't like civility, No, so that this guy
just outs himself. It's like, no, no, no, we don't
want a high bar. We don't want a real discussion
on issues. It is we are going to demonize an
attack and call names, and the gloves are coming off.
And we don't think Walls had any business trying to
have an issues based debate with Vance JD Vance And

(42:47):
I'm telling you that's been their gameplay, a game plan,
and they are just so upset. That is what I
love more. I watched that debate. Jad Vans is a
guy I thought he was. I didn't I didn't see
And I say that is a compliment, not as a
not not in a negative way. I wasn't surprised by
his performance. This is the guy I always thought he was.

(43:07):
But I am more shocked that that the media is
just falling over itself praising him and really being super
critical of walls of walls.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Rod is in Sandy, listening to the show tonight, wants
to weigh in on this, Rod, how are you thanks
for joining the Rod and Great show.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
Yes, I do agree that jd. Vance did win the election.
But what I don't think people realize is understand you know,
he's only been a politician for two years.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Oh that's right.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, Actually, I now that you say that, I realize it. Yeah,
he ran for Senate, but he hadn't run for anything before.
He's forty years old.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Old, Yeah, forty years old, wrote the Have you read
have your Have you read his book?

Speaker 9 (43:47):
Rod?

Speaker 16 (43:50):
I have not.

Speaker 9 (43:51):
I'm going to.

Speaker 8 (43:52):
Yeah, but for a kid that I call him a kid.
But you know, for somebody who has only been in
Pauls for two years and to do what he did
on stage, is that'sing sure remarkable?

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, yeah, oh you're right right O. To be forty again.
Ron makes a good point. He has only been in politics.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
So you know what, though I thought he might have come.
I thought that people might have thought he was too polished. No,
I was he too polished?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I didn't get that sense last night.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
No, okay, okay, I wonder. I just wonder because he
I thought he handled a hostile two hostile moderators masterfully.
But did that come across as slick or did that
come across as authentic?

Speaker 10 (44:36):
No?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I I well we had you know, the body expert
who weighed in on this said he was authentic. Yeah,
And that's what That's what people want, isn't it. They
want authenticity.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I have to tell you when you hear his being
born in poverty, you know, being raised by a mom
and a grandmother. And I know a little bit about that,
but it's pretty hard to not have a little a
higher degree of authenticity living in American dream to the extreme.
He has from the hardest, you know times to seeing
success both academically, professionally, also serving in the military and

(45:09):
the Marines. He has really worn a lot of different
hats and now as a US senator and now is
vice presidential candidate on a on a Republican ticket. The
guy is living an amazing life, but it must inform
him in such a unique way, different than everyone.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Else, saying Donald Trump. That's why I like the combination
of Trump and Vans together because Trump, of course, his
father was successful. He's been very successful. Yes, we have JD.
Van's coming up from nothing, you know, serving in the military,
educating himself. What was it, Yale? That's where Yeah, I
think to wrote this book about his life and brings
a different perspective. That's why I.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Always called it born on third base. Think you hit
a triple? Okay, all these all these snooty tody tody types,
they think they're all great. Guess what, you're born on
third base? Pal, you didn't hit that triple.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
You could say that about Donald Trump, but he relates
to people who were can build things. Yes, what do
they call him? The blue collar billionaireaire and hefferent it fits.
Let's go to Jason in Brigham City listening into the
Roden greg Show tonight. Hi Jason, what are your thoughts
on the debate last night?

Speaker 19 (46:15):
I thought JD. Vance did an outstanding masterclass performance.

Speaker 9 (46:19):
He brought up the assyly and pro leae.

Speaker 13 (46:22):
The biggest issue is the pro leae.

Speaker 19 (46:25):
That's the federal government secret way of getting bringing people
into the United States that really shouldn't be here, and
they do that in the dead of night. They use
the Transportation Administration that people don't know about. They contract
with private airlines and they these they don't hold the

(46:46):
airlines accountable, and they are able to bring in literally
hundreds of thousands, it's not millions, and they dump them
into into communities without any public input. And that's what's
happening that's never talked about.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, and Jason, you're right, And what Jade Vance was
trying to say is you can say that she made it.
She waved a wand and all of a sudden made
that process legal, but it was never legal prior to
them pulling this stunt. It's a stunt. It is not
something that was a llegal process prior to them doing it.
So those are people illegal that you can get through
the system by all of a sudden anointing them as legal.

(47:26):
You can that, you can call any word you want
that those are illegal aliens that would not be here
other than them pushing them through in a way no
one else has ever done before.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And I loved how Vance called out the moderators on
it last night. And my guess is Tim Walls knew
nothing about that.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
We said this thing, well, this has been around since
the nineties. Well, first off, I don't think apps have
been around since the nineties, so I think you're off
a few. Get that one, and no, this has never
existed before. Actually, twenty three, twenty twenty three is when
they really step this up.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
All right, more coming up, more yourphone calls here on
the Rod on Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
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Speaker 2 (48:03):
Well, I wanted to say it was the beginning or
the end of one of these hours, and we're just
dead in the middle of it. Yeah, there's no beginning,
Rang you actually looked at the clock that I did.
That kind of interrupted what I was about to say.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
All Right, we're taking your phone calls eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone
dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod about the
debate last night. The a theme. There have been several
themes coming out following the debate, Okay, various narratives. One
that I uh that there were people when he was

(48:36):
selected to be Trump's running mate who had questions about
jd Vance sat there were stronger people out there maybe,
And I think he proved last night that was a
very good choice by Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I had a discussion with a Democrat yesterday before the
show and I and I said, I'm not tracking all
this anti Van JD. Vance talk a Democrat. This person said, no,
that he's had so many missteps. He's just not it's
he's not a good pick. And I said, I would
think as a Democrat, I mean, he has the humble beginnings.

(49:09):
But then he went to Yale, So you elitist thought
to love that about him, But I said, but I was.
I said I was. I just was never tracking this
anti Vance thing. So when we saw him last night,
he really was the guy I always had heard, the
guy that won the Senate seat in Ohio, the guy
that's the hillbilly elogy guy. I mean, I just didn't

(49:29):
he My wife keeps accusing me of being a hater,
like I'm jealous of JD. Vans because I'm not. I'm
not glowing and falling over myself. I actually am not.
I'm super happy. I'm actually we need to spike the ball, folks.
This was this is a big win. We don't get
a lot of these especially in debates. Okay, the debates
are not built for us. We won this debate, Jadvans,
won this debate on everybody's measure, including the regime media.

(49:52):
And we should be celebrating today from this, you know,
from the rooftops. So I am not a hater of
jd Vance. I just saw the zac guy that I
knew he was when he was picked by Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Speaking of celebrating, Yeah, Megan Kelly in our podcast, Yes,
just listen to a minute of her celebrating last night.

Speaker 20 (50:12):
Jd Vance put on a masterclass in how to handle
biased moderators and a lying opponent. And it was the
thing of beauty. It's beautiful.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
It was like.

Speaker 20 (50:26):
Every Republican or Republican voter or person who in this
case is rooting for Trump knows exactly what I am
feeling right now, which is.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Just thank god.

Speaker 20 (50:39):
It is listening to a guy go out there and
know how to raise the right points in response to
the right questions, to not take the moderator's book. It
was really cleansing.

Speaker 6 (50:53):
It was just you never see it.

Speaker 20 (50:57):
It's just so great to see the moderators are gross.
Margaret Brennan, not only do you desperately need some bronzer.
You need to understand how to moderate a fair debate
when you have half the country who's rooting for the
other guy.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
I think she was happy last night.

Speaker 9 (51:19):
She sure was.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Look we all should be. I mean, I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I was a win. You you point out, when have
we had a win in these debates?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
We don't. And you know what in that win? Can
we all agree that we are done with debates from
now on, probably because they are not built to be
fair in any way, shape or form. We are celebrating
a win that all odds were against us, all odds
were against Jade Vans. We said this even yesterday. Be prepared.
It's going to be one versus three. Yeah, so I
think I think it's a It's a great day. He's

(51:48):
he did a phenomenal job and I love I just
love watching him be miserable.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
All Right, to the phones we go. Let's talk with
Dale in Ogden tonight here on the Roden Greg Show.
Hi Dale, how are you.

Speaker 9 (52:00):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (52:00):
Gentlemen?

Speaker 17 (52:01):
Doing great?

Speaker 9 (52:01):
How about you?

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Good? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (52:04):
Okay?

Speaker 21 (52:04):
So, so, yeah, I just wanted to talk about I
can discuss about Tim Wall's attempt to pander to the
to the religious side, yes, quoting quoted Matthew twenty five
forty yep quoting script Well, and he didn't even pair
he didn't even paraphrase it well. I mean it was
a poor paraphrase attempt, but yeah, that's talk about pandering,

(52:28):
yes to the religious side.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
And did did you do you find did you find
there anything authentic, authentic about it? Or did you when
you watched it, did you think he was selling that successfully?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Well that description.

Speaker 21 (52:44):
I'm not a scriptorian, but I you know, I immediately
caught on it that you know, there he is pandering.
He probably hasn't been in church in in decades and
he and he you know, he basically what he said,
uh twenty five forty talks about to the least among us,

(53:05):
you do it unto me, And that's basically from the transcript. Yeah,
and you know the scripper says, and the king shall
answer and saying to them, very I say unto you.
And as much as you have done it under the
least that he's my brother, and you have done it
under me for me.

Speaker 9 (53:20):
He did even do a good job paraphrasing it.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
You know, you could have gone on there and rocked
it there or Dale. He did a great job with that.
I agree. I do think it was posturing. I can't
believe the Democrats let him quote sprint scripture. I'm sure.
Why are they not fact check that? The Sure fact
checked that old you're not allowed to talk scripture. Let's
keep going to the phones. Let's go to Jim uh
in Salt Lake City. Jim, Welcome to the Rod and
Greg Show.

Speaker 9 (53:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (53:44):
The reason why Walsh lost so badly is because everybody
has figured out that he's a fake and a phony.
He didn't convince anybody last night that he was anything
other than that, you know. And and two that's like
you say, the Democrats wanted him to be.

Speaker 9 (54:06):
They wanted him to be so belligerent and just call
all fans all kinds of names, and he didn't do that,
And so they're picked off of that because twenty five
percent of all Democrats actually wanted Trump assassinated.

Speaker 16 (54:26):
Yeah, and that's the kind of mindset that they have
in going into anything that they do.

Speaker 9 (54:32):
And Uh, Walsh didn't do that last night. They didn't,
and so they are ticked off of him.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
He did. I agree with Well, you had that comment
from somebody on the CBS. Yes, last night, I say
wanted to be, and Jim pointed out they did want
a pit bull and they didn't get it. Nope, not
last night, not last night. Now with him all right,
more coming up. More of your phone calls here on
the Rotting Greg Show eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero eight eight eight five seven eight zero

(55:01):
one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two
fifty and simply say hey, rot General consensus is jd
Vance did it very very well, rolled through it did
very well. Yeah, Democrats are mad that little Timmy was
more of a pit bull. He was two nice.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Well, I I yeah, So I want to get to
those main callers, and I think we can get the
two colors off we house. We're coming up top of
the hour, so let's go to Cooper and Layton. Cooper,
Welcome to the Ronning Greg Show.

Speaker 22 (55:29):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 9 (55:31):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
You're welcome.

Speaker 22 (55:33):
I I just wanted to call in because I was
just listening and heard you guys talking about The Megan
Kelly Show, and I got to say, she's one of
my favorite shows in the current times during this election.
And one thing I heard on her show as well.
I think it was on today's episode. She was talking
about how Republicans should stop doing these liberal media debates,

(55:58):
and you guys were touching a bit on it as
well well, because of how unfair they are. They've been
three v one since I've been a viewer of these debates,
so I Another show I've been enjoying is the Ben
Shapiro Show, and on his show, he he gave a suggestion.

Speaker 13 (56:16):
And I think it tis into his.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
Faith as well.

Speaker 22 (56:19):
What they do in their faith is when they have debates,
the debaters choose one moderator, the other debater chooses one
moderator or two. However, however it's formatted to keep it
an even playing field for both of the debaters. So
I think it's their election of duty for Republicans to

(56:41):
keep accepting these CBS ABC debates, and they need to
come up with a different format, make them a little
bit more fair.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
They sure do. Cooper, You're right, good idea.

Speaker 9 (56:53):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
You pick one. I'll pick one.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Let's go to the Democrats will ever go for it,
so I don't think they'll ever have another debate.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Let's go to Jay in Roy tonight here on the
Roden Greg Show. Hi Jay, how are you.

Speaker 10 (57:05):
Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Thanks.

Speaker 10 (57:09):
I'm doing great. I had a little truth bomb I
wanted to share with you, So Greg likes to say
my little words wisdom, the little truth bombs, sir. What
I seen last night was a well prepared marine in
the face of adversity and a wishy, washy, runaway kind

(57:31):
of army guy. And I would go I would, I would,
I would. I would back that guy, you know, hands
down any fight. I'd rather have him on my side
than than ten Timmy, Timmy boys.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
I will say, Jay, that is a truth bomb, my friend,
A well prepared marine versus the wishy, washy army guy.

Speaker 7 (57:55):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Simpfy?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, but look, I mean he did this. This that
is his military legacy to those that served with him,
are under his command, that he ran when it was
time to be deployed, and he said he would not
and he was and he knew well in advance, and
he got out of there and he left his his
He left his men to do it on our they

(58:17):
and they are not shy about that.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
They remember that. They sure do interesting with the whole
military situation in that debate last night. Well, if we
get a chance a little bit later on, we've got
more media reaction. I want to play, if we have
time before the end of the show tonight, a portion
of jd Vance's closing argument closing statement last night, because
I think he was spot on with this one, and

(58:41):
we'll play that as well, because but we've got the
media reaction to this is really kind of intergesting.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
The meltdown is so much fun. So I just love it.
I love it so much. I saw it pouring in
after the debate was over, and I'm like, well, doesn't
this didn't disc get a lot better? Yeah, I mean
just just brightened up my evening, It's brightened up my day.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah. Well, we played earlier the uh jd Vance fact
checking the two CBS moderators, right, we have not played
and if we have time, and this will kind of
a lengthy exchange Timmy Walls trying to explain China and
the fact that you know, I'm kind of knuckleheaded and
apparently I was not in Tianneman Square, but I was

(59:21):
back in Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I know. He didn't just say that, like, hey, I
was there the lie that they're talking about is from
a committee hearing where he goes in that great detail
of something that never happened. It's very strange.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Yeah, kind of kind of a while. So we'll play
that before we wrap things up tonight. All right, yet
another hour of just pure excitement and joy and Greg
Talk Radio one winning stay with us.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
So it is wing Man Wednesday on Goose.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
And I'm Maverick or roder get great to be with you.
All right. It has been interesting during this election cycle, Greg,
just see these stories that surface about Kamala Harris or
Donald Trump going to members of the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter day Saints either in Nevada or Arizona
to try and win their vote, and who's going to
get the vote? And a lot of people say, you know,

(01:00:17):
it's the whole religious thing, and why do you vote
for a man like Donald Trump or why do you
vote support someone like Kamala Ayrras interesting opinion piece today
in the DEAs read News about all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
It's a welcome It's a welcome piece that I've seen
enough of the other version of this, the other side
crying about Trump. It was it was it was a
welcome piece by maryor Trent Staggs and his wife Felicia
about who Trump Donald Trump is and why it's important
for members of the Church of Yese Christ Larday Saints
to take this candidate very seriously and to support him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah. Yeah, interesting. Well, we have both of them on
the show right now, Trent Daggs and his wife Alicia.
Of course Trent the mayor of Riverton. They wrote this
up at peace. Trent, I'm going to ask you to
hold off because I want to ask your wife tonight
why she wanted to being involved in the writing of this. So, Licia,
could you explain then, why do you feel it was
necessary to write this?

Speaker 23 (01:01:07):
You know, I have a history of being the person
who actually questioned some of the characteristics of Trump. I
always agreed with his policies, but I definitely you know,
I was worried sometimes that he was too me or
too harsh. But this last year, Trent and I had
an opportunity to head down to Marlago. We got to
meet a lot of his inner circle, meet some amazing people.
And I am a firm believer that you are who

(01:01:29):
you surround yourself with. I got to see a different
side of Trump, and it was very telling of who
he was as a person, and I could look past
those personality traits that it could actually focus on his policies,
which is what our voters should be doing, is focusing
on the policies. So I was willing to jump in
on this piece because I believed in it. I believed

(01:01:49):
everything that Trent stood for. I agree with him, and
I really feel like we can get out there and
tell people the truth. That's really why I wanted to
jump in on it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
You know, this question for either one, I've read now
that even in the in the Pittsburgh Press a post
because that a professor from BYU who used to live
and teach at the University of Pittsburgh, isn't an editorial
representing himself as a member of the Church Jesi Christ,
Theilary Saints, and why people of his faith and of
all faiths should reject Donald Trump because he is immoral.

(01:02:21):
What would be the counter to that, to that message
to the public that that Donald Trump is im moral,
that's why people of our faith or any faith should
not consider voting for him. What is the counter to that?

Speaker 13 (01:02:34):
Well, you know, I think none of us are perfect
and if we go down this road of trying to
dissect people's character, intent, motive, their heart, that's that's not
the basis by which I think we should be deciding,
you know. And so much of this personality, you know
Alista just alluded to, was drawn from that experience, came

(01:02:55):
from a media narrative that we really have to question.
I mean, it just wasn't accurate. That's a big reason
why I wanted to write the piece too. It's like, look,
on a policy front, clearly we were better off under
President Trump's policy, and we articulate that in the off ed,
But looking at personality, where so many say, wow, he
doesn't have the right personality or character. No, we met him,

(01:03:16):
you know, I had opportunity.

Speaker 9 (01:03:17):
To converse with him.

Speaker 13 (01:03:19):
We met so many from his inner circle, and they
just gave us example after example of things we're not
going to see in the mainstream media. Examples of his
love for family, of the country, just how generous he is.
We had all kinds of examples of generosity, the things
he's done for people that work for him and those

(01:03:39):
that surround with him. And then you know, obviously his
commitment to the country and passion. I mean You've got
to think, what is this guy? Why is he doing
it right? I mean, he is quite literally putting his
life on the line, and yet his only reward is
a better country. That's his hope and his desires to
have that, and that's why he's doing it.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
Trent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
When you have conversations with him, what does he like
to talk about? I mean, what does he bring up
when you have conversations with him.

Speaker 13 (01:04:08):
Well we put some of that in the in the
opinion piece, but you know, it was very telling to
me too, why he would he would always ask about
my family. We had conversations we had around one time
where we shared an experience with one of my Riverton
residents who was wrongfully imprisoned in Venezuela. And he worked
very very hard, along with some members of our federal delegation,

(01:04:30):
you know, to get him get him released, and and
he shows this level of care and concern for everyday
Americans that you just you don't often see and so
that I think is very important. Speaks to personality and
character as well. Uh, And that's you know, those are
some of the things that that we would we would
talk about, but just his family mine, just he always

(01:04:55):
exuded to I think the thing that I took away
he had such a positive attitude. I mean the first
time we spoke, when I got that great endorsement at
our Republican convention that morning. Here he had so many
things going on, you know, all the law there and
everything that against him, and he's wanted to know about me,
he wants to talk about our family, he wants to

(01:05:17):
and he had just exuded such a positive hope for
our country. I was, I was really, I was really
kind of a taken back by that, given everything he
had going on, all the tribulations he was, he was suffering.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
You know, I'm glad to hear in the editorial as
you mentioned that you account for this, but I you know,
my wife and I christ we had had we got
to meet the president and had this exact same experience
where President Trump really did drill down with Christa about
our family and ask questions. And I'm sure this has
happened to you. You're both you know, you go to

(01:05:51):
the rubber chicken dinners of politics. You know what this
circuit looks like. A lot of people have layers, they
have people, and you talk about who people surround themselves with.
There's not a lot of people governors or other senators
are certainly not presidents that are accessible to have a
human conversation with. We found out to be the case
with Donald Trump, that we were having a very human

(01:06:12):
conversation more people that he asked more questions about our
family to my with my wife Krista than she had
ever had in any conversation she had had with any politician,
and any dinner or any kind of fundraiser, you name it.
So with that said, why in the world is there
such a disconnect between the people's perception and the person
that you've had the chance to meet firsthand and that

(01:06:35):
I have and it not be the same? Why is
does this? Why does this happen? Especially here in Utah
where people just there is this Trump derangement syndrome or
there's this never Trumper's there's some resistance going on. What
do you put that on?

Speaker 23 (01:06:49):
Well, he's definitely, I mean, he has said some things
before that definitely. The media spins and they go with it.
They and I shouldn't say all the media, just some
some of the media, but it's very influential. And you know,
I'm an advocuser of social media. I love looking and
seeing what's posted. I obviously stay away from some comments
during our campaign season, but I like to stay involved.

(01:07:11):
I like to know what's going on in the country.
And it's very telling. Like the media portrays him a
certain way. They don't like to put into life that
he's a good guy. They only want to see the
bad side. And you know, it's whenever I talk to people,
some of my close friends who say, ah, you know,
I just can't. I can't do it. I can't vote
for him because he's just his character. And I said, well,

(01:07:32):
you can look past his opponent's characters like you can
look past her flaws, no problem. Why can't you excuse
his Why can't we look past that and just again,
look at the policies, look at the way they leave,
look at the examples that they've given us already. So
I just I think a lot of it it's they
spin you know, if he decides to do something bad

(01:07:53):
or say something bad, they spin it out of control.
They don't highlight the good as much as they need to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Alicia, thank you so much for saying that about women,
and you know some of her faults as well, because
she certainly is not perfect. Yet apparently no one wants
to bring that up. Alicia. I want to ask Trent. Trent,
people are saying this is really going to be a
gender election. Men are going to support Donald Trump, women
supporting Kamala Harris. What does in your opinion, Trent and

(01:08:20):
Alicia can respond to this is them, Well, what does
he need to say to women of America that you're
voting and wasted if you vote for me?

Speaker 13 (01:08:31):
Well, I think you know, women, especially my wife, I mean,
they're they're just incredibly sharp, they understand the issues, and
you know, our conversations, what she's told me is, oh
my gosh, look at the grocery store. Yeah, exactly, it's
the And that's one thing we pointed to, you know,
we haven't experienced. I think is unique with respective meaning

(01:08:53):
and talking to him and having that that opportunity to
view a personality aside the media won't portray. But let's
get back to the policies. I mean, we were so
much better off with the twenty seventeen tax cuts, with
energy costs significantly lowered. You know, inflation wasn't running rampant,
and those economic issues. I think in the fact too,

(01:09:15):
I've heard my wife say he's already been president, he's
already been tested, and he can do I know for
some women that claim that their rights are going to
be taken away when I mean, Alicia's had this conversation
with well, you know, did you experience any loss of
those rights back when he was president? And of course
not well.

Speaker 23 (01:09:35):
And I can add to that. I mean, as the woman,
my biggest concern, it's the economy. Yes, grocery prices. I
would love to see BA came down obviously to return
while it was, But the safety of my children, that's
what I'm looking at. So really, I want somebody who's
going to be able to address the border period it
needs to be done. I'm okay with immigration as long

(01:09:55):
as it is legal. That's my stance, and I just
want to make sure that we are, you know, being
really good about the border, and I know that he'll
do it. I also have noticed whenever they're interviewed, they're
asked how they'll help the economy, and she tends to
tell her whole backstory before answering the question, or doesn't
ever answer the question, whereas he can say, right from

(01:10:16):
the beginning, it starts with energy, and then he can
trickle down into how he can say the economy, he
answers the questions.

Speaker 8 (01:10:22):
She does not.

Speaker 23 (01:10:23):
She continues to relate because she thinks that's how she'll
get the vote. And I just would love everybody to
look past that and say, we're not looking for relatable,
We're looking for leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Mayor Staggs and Lisia, thank you for joining us on
the program, thank you for writing this op ed, and
thank you for speaking up. I. You know, jd Vance
himself said it last night when asked, you know what
I was wrong about Trump, and he pointed to the
misinformation from a false media narrative. There is so much
of that that leads people to the false conclusion. You've
had the unique opportunity of spending time personally with the

(01:10:56):
former president, and I think that perspective is one that
needs to be shared more so, thank you for what
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, Trent and Elisha, thank you very much. Guys, enjoy
the rest of the evening.

Speaker 23 (01:11:06):
Thank you you too, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
You all right joining us on our newsmaker line. The
mayor of Rivington Trends Staggs and his wife Alicia, who
wrote this up ed piece today, If the election is
a matter of choice. Donald Trump is the right character
talking to members of the Church of Jesus Christ because
Latter day Saints. More coming up on the Roden Greg
Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can
arrest Now. We played earlier Greg that exchanged between JD.

(01:11:31):
Vans and the moderators when they decided to fact check them,
even though they had indicated earlier there weren't rules written
for this, but they indicated we aren't going to be
like ABC and fact checked you, and they did and JD.
Van's had a great comeback. The other I think important
or interesting moment during the debate last night, Greg was
Timmy Walls. Now he claimed, and he has apparently a

(01:11:54):
number of times, that he in fact was in Tenneman's
Square during the protest against China. What was it the
mid eighties? Am I right about the mid eighties?

Speaker 10 (01:12:05):
Es?

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Yeah, late eighties, something like that, and he was there. Well,
the folks at Minnesota Public Radio did a little fact
checking on this and come to find out he was
in Nebraska, which is not it's a little where near
nowhere near China.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Is it where massacre took place?

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
That was one of I think the key moments in
the debate last night. Listen to this exchange.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly
Tenemen Square protests in the spring of nineteen eighty nine,
but Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting
that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of
that year. Can you explain that Discrepancyah?

Speaker 11 (01:12:46):
Well, and to the folks out there, it didn't get
at the top of this look. I grew up in small,
rural Nebraska town of four hundred town that you rode
your bike with your buddies. Still the street lights come on,
and I'm proud of that service. I joined the National
Guard at seventeen, worked on family farms, and then I
use the GI bill to become a teacher. Passionate about it.
A young teacher. My first year out, I got the

(01:13:08):
opportunity in the summer of eighty nine to travel to
China thirty five years ago. Be able to do that,
I came back home and then started a program to
take young people there. We would take basketball teams, we
would take baseball teams, we would take dancers, and we
would go back and forth to China. The issue for
that was was to try and learn. Now, look, my
community knows who I am. They saw where I was

(01:13:30):
at they look. I will be the first to tell
you I have poured my heart into my community. I've
tried to do the best I can, but I've not
been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
But it's always been about that.

Speaker 11 (01:13:41):
Those same people elected me to Congress for twelve years,
and in Congress I was one of the most bipartisan people,
working on things like farm bills that we got done,
working on veterans benefits, and then the people of Minnesota
were able to elect me to governor twice. So look,
my commitment has been from the beginning to make sure
that I'm there for the people, to make sure that

(01:14:02):
I get this right.

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
I will say more than anything.

Speaker 11 (01:14:05):
Many times, I will talk a lot, I will get
caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact
it made, the difference it made in my life.

Speaker 6 (01:14:13):
I learned a lot about China. I hear the critiques
of this.

Speaker 11 (01:14:16):
I would make the case that Donald Trump should have
come on one of those trips with US. I guarantee
you he wouldn't be praising Shijing ping about COVID, and
I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that
he ends up losing. So this is about trying to
understand the world. It's about trying to do the best
you can for your community, and then it's putting yourself
out there and letting your folks understand what it is

(01:14:38):
my commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was
good at, or whether it was being a good soldier,
or was being a good member of Congress, those are
the things that I think are the values that people.

Speaker 6 (01:14:46):
Care about governor.

Speaker 4 (01:14:48):
Just to follow up on that, the question was, can
you explain the note prepancy.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
All I said on this was is I got there
that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just
that's what I've said it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:01):
So I was in.

Speaker 11 (01:15:04):
Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest went in
and from that I learned a lot of what needed
to be in governance.

Speaker 9 (01:15:12):
You know a word.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
I think he went to the same school that Kamala
went to. I was just thinking that exactly, the word
slid university. Well, it's even when tell us about your
economic plan. Well, I grew up middle class where we
liked our lawns tell us about lying about when you
were in the Hong Kong during Chanean Square. Well, I
grew up in a town of four hundred where we

(01:15:35):
rode our bikes to the little street lamps came on.

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
What what?

Speaker 10 (01:15:39):
What?

Speaker 9 (01:15:39):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (01:15:40):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
That has nothing to do with a question that it
was posed to you. And And as much as we're
criticizing these CBS moderators, because they deserve every criticism we
have leveled today and then some, I love that after
he was done with that giant biography biographical answer that
meant nothing and did not the question, she went back

(01:16:01):
to it and said, yeah, to the question, why did
you say that? I misspoke? And just you hear the
awkward silence, you hear the crickets in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
It was it was a moment. And if you saw
him on stage, if you if you saw him, he
didn't know where to go with this. I mean he no,
he was He was a lost puppy grin.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
You have more time, would you like to use more
of a that's it?

Speaker 9 (01:16:24):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I don't know I have.

Speaker 9 (01:16:27):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I don't know how to say. I don't know how
to rosy up that I've lied more than I just tried.
So I tried to even mention Trump. Did you hear Trump?
I said, Trump's name?

Speaker 9 (01:16:37):
So why can't you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Talk about that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
When I was listening to all of this, I said,
what on earth? The old expression, what on earth does
this have to do with the price of eggs in China? Yeah,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Count of four hundred. Yeah, and I'm bipartisan, and I
did this and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
I bike and yeah, no it's and people know me,
so they know that I embellish things a little bit.
Really well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I I think that was a low point for him.
I think I think his comment about he he knows
school shooters, he liked school shooters. I talked to school shooters. Yeah,
well that's weird. Tell you he coined the frame phrase weird.
But I don't know that he really wants to I didn't.
I'll bet you that didn't come up in debate prep.
Probably his relationship with and conversations with school shooters, probably not. Yeah,

(01:17:22):
I don't know if that was out there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Yeah, say to one of those parents, you know, I
really like that school shooter. He's a nice guy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
He said it in the same breath. I've talked to
the parents. I know school shooters.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Okay more coming up final half hour of the Rod
and Greg Show. It's interesting get to hear from listeners.
And they talked about the debate last night. That was
like you and I know that that debate is not
going to move the needle. I mean you have you know,
you know what I'd like to find? How how do
you find or who are undecided voters in this country today?

(01:17:54):
If Eric thought about that? Because they're going to decide
this election, right so who are undecided?

Speaker 9 (01:18:00):
Who are they?

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
What do they do? Why? My question is why can't
they make up their mind? Well, voters at this point?

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
You if you're an undecided voter right now, and if
you are and you're a listener to this show, I
would love for you to correct me because this isn't
going to be a nice uh commentary bit. Can you
decide what to wear in the morning? Can you do
you know when you go to a restaurant and you
have a menu, do you know what the pick?

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Or does this?

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Or do you just suffer over every decision? Because in
twenty twenty four, there's no lack of information. I mean
you whatever you are looking for in a candidate, you
kind of know by this point, I don't know what's
what stone has not been unturned in this race, or
whether it's Trump or even Kamala or their vice presidential picks.
That we don't know that you wouldn't feel comfortable making

(01:18:49):
a decision now. So if you are undecided, you might
be confronting indecision throughout your truth.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
That's true, that's right now when you go out to
speaking of that, when you undecided, when you go on
to a restaurant, yes, with your lovely wife Christy and
Cindy and I find ourselves doing this quite often. You
look at the menu and you both decide on the
same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Yes, do you Yeah, that's not a problem. I don't
mind that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
You go to a nice restaurant, you get there are
different things on the menu, and you both end up
ordering the same thing. Nothing's wrong with that. I just
find it faster.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Do you run into that, Yes, it's happened. But sometimes
Christa we'll go to the nicest restaurant and she'll get
the most basic thing on the menu, just the most Well, no,
if you got like, say, go to a Mexican restaurant,
I'll have a bean, a bean burrito, a bean bereria
refried beans and a tortilla. Doesn't really we didn't have

(01:19:46):
to get in the car and drive to get bean
refried beans and all. That's what she orders. She orders
a very a bean burrito. Okay, okay, we ran all
the way here. You get a bean brito. Go to
that coming they get one of the It's just it's
just not much of a menu item. But so yees so,
but she'll find something. And then my kids, I tease

(01:20:08):
Sophie about this. She's always after the chicken nuggets, like,
you know, she she's never graduated from them. She's twenty five,
and she'll still get like chicken sticks or chicken fingers
if she can't get the nuggets.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Yeah, every one of my grandchildren, what do you want
to eat? Chicken and fries?

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
This child of mind is twenty five, she's a grown adult.
She's going she's going after the chicken fingers. She's still
into the chicken nuggets. Well maybe she likes them, Oh
yeah she does. It's like, let's go to the steakhousehold
they don't have chicken fingers. Yeah, I know, let's go
there anyway. Yeah, but but yeah, I uh that the
menu was situation. I sometimes I'm undecided, and the only
way I'm going to be able to decide is if

(01:20:43):
people start ordering and then say you're coming to me,
then you decide, Then I can land. I listened to
what's being ordered, and I because I got a couple
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
But wouldn't you think on a menu, if you're going
out with your wife, you'd both order something different so
you could try it instead share the same thing. Are
you one of these shares?

Speaker 10 (01:21:01):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
I don't share anything. I'd sooner her order two different men.
This is the same thing if you go to the
drive through. I when my wife says she doesn't want fries,
it's a lie. She absolutely wants fries. She wants my fries. Well,
I don't want to share my fries. I will order
two orders of fries if you want. If you don't
want fries, because I know you're coming from my fries,
and I'll have one for you that I'll buy because
I don't want to share fries.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
You know, if I have described yourself as a bully
and you just admitted you're a bully, No.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
I have an appetite of which I can eat all
my fries, and if I don't, and she's eating my fries.
I don't get all my fries. I just want my fries.
I just order fries if you want fries. It's not
true that you're being healthy if you don't order fries,
but then you eat all mine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
Yeah, so that another habit. Now, let's see if Kristip
my wife when we go to a restaurant. Sometimes they're
going to kill us for this. Now, you know, we
probably shouldn't go home tonight. I know, but my wife
will always ask the waiter, what do you recommend? Yeah,
well that's actually a better say that. Yeah, that's fine.

(01:22:00):
I think that's better than you're trying to tell you something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Yes, this is the worst question that I've had to ask,
and I'm not going to say who asks it? Is that?
Because I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Member your family? Name names, member of your family?

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Yes? Is this item good? What are they going to
say this? The health department actually just wrote us up
for like nine violations because of that dish right there,
because we keep the seafood on the same plate that
we put the raw on. So yeah, that's that one's
had food poisoning. You don't want that one. There isn't
a single server that's going to tell you that a

(01:22:34):
menu item you're asking about is terrible and you should
stay away from it. So why you're asking them? Is
this any good?

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
The general answer, I think it's in the in the employee,
you know, orientation, is it's all good. It's all good.
That's what they're going to say.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. They're going to tell you is
this But I've had them say to me, and I've
heard this before, well that's not my favorite. Have you
heard that? And is that okay?

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
They won't last long if they say that too many times.
If the owner hears them say that, they're gonna be like,
you don't say.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
That, But they will say that's not my favorite. Here's
what I like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Yeah, I I that that has happened. But even then
I think that's poor judgment on the part of the server,
and so their credibility is lost with me. At that point,
I won't even trust you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
You're done.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
I will say that the one thing that servers can
give by way of advice it's good is the portion size.
So that's a lot to eat. If you were to
pick that this one's a little smaller of a diship
you're not very hard that. That's a nice that's nice
to know that. But if you're asking for their opinion
on how tasty the menu is that the place you're going, Uh,
they've been told to uh say that the whole everything

(01:23:38):
you want is tasty. It's it's it's going to be
an incredible experience, no matter what you pay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
Have you noticed portions have gotten smaller?

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
I have? Have you noticed?

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
I haven't noticed that portions have gotten a little bit smaller,
have they? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
I've noticed that in my my cookies and my in
the food, the food that crystal bied, the junk food,
I've noticed that's gotten No, I've a.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Few restaurants I've noticed not as much as there used
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Yeah, my Keebler Fudge striped cookies had money.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Well, you just ate all my brownie or all my ore.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
I'll eat it. The rest I didn't eat the whole sleeve.
I will eat that whole sleep. But the Keebler Fudge
striped they used to have so many in a row,
and they have taken one cookie out of each row.
On my key on my fudge stripe cookies, why did
you count them? They used to be packed in there,
like from side to side. Now they they wiggle around
because they were missing.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
They've taken them out.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
The trade didn't get wider. Yep, they took it out.
Yes they did. I know, have you no? And I should? Yeah,
I've been eating itse My Grandma's been feeding me those
Keebler cookies since I was little.

Speaker 9 (01:24:41):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Yeah, well, okay, fascinating conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Really wasn't the Jack Smith indictments that they unsealed today
that I thought we were going to talk.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
About items, real life things that I think our audience.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Can relate to last one on this But I don't know.
We forgot the break. But my daughter sets me up.
She knows what bugs like I just said to fries,
So I have the same rule for desserts.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
What I means, she sets you up.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
So she turns her phone on at the restaurant and
puts the video on me, and then like the family knows.
If you want a dessert, order a dessert. If you
don't want a dessert, stay away from my dessert. Okay,
I am not sharing my dessert. I'm not into this.
Let's get at eight spoons and go into Greg's dessert. No,
I want my dessert. I would rather buy you a

(01:25:25):
dessert and have you take one bite of it. Here
they can have one bite of it and leave the rest.
I don't care. I want my whole dessert. I just
want mine. So which does she do? And this is
just like last year. She puts the camera on on
the table and she hits play and she says she
doesn't want a dessert. I get my dessert, and she
comes around. She gets out of the chair, comes over
my shoulder with her spoon, and just starts eating my dessert.

(01:25:49):
I am going, I am pointing to the server, going,
get a dessert. Why are you eating my dessert? Get
off of my dessert. I'm trying to take my spirit.
I'm wiping it on her arms so that you get
grown out. She's not. She's still I don't know that
I'm being recorded. I don't know that I'm Then she
puts she posts it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
She posts it. Yeah that's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Yeah, so I get set up that way. The kids
they got older and then they started turning on me.

Speaker 9 (01:26:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Yeah, they they tend to do that. I have older
children as well. All right, some final thoughts coming in
when we come back. There is a new study out tonight.
You'll love this. It looks at what happens to men
at night they sleep. Well, we'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I don't even like the topic of that. If it's
anything other than I'm sleeping, I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
What I'm doing. Yes, you should know. It's important to
know ignorance. I hope women are not listening because if
they do, and if they are, they're going to take
advantage of You.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Know, this is gonna be gross. I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
It's not going to be gross. It's not gross. All right,
we'll get to it coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
How are you sitting here listening to this? I get
a quite over the over the commercial break, she's listening.
I'm totally busted because of you. I didn't pick this topic.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Why you don't even know what topic I'm talking I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Talking about the last one. I'm totally busted here because
you just.

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
Weak that out a note. You could do a three
hour show on restaurants.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Not as cheese. Listen, I'm not. I'm not already in
enough trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
But we're talking about Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
We're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
We want to talk about that. We've had heavy stuff today.
Why is embarrassed that you just ordered simple food.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
When just one word? Texts are never good when it's
just says listening, Yeah, I don't I that's not that's
that lead. There's more left to the imagination. What else
is coming? Which is terrifying.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
All right, you're ready for this one now? And we asked,
and we asked the female audience right now, our wonderful
women listeners do not listen because they'll take advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Of just reading this one word and it's not going
to work.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
With a new study you ready for this by researchers
at the University of California at Santa Barbara reveals that
men's brains shrink in volume as the day progresses.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
That's a lie. Where'd you get that from? CNN, MSNBC.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
It's oh no, wait a minute, only to recover overnight.
So throughout the day the volume of our brain is shrinking,
and then at night when we rest comes and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
This is gender specific women's brains. Don't go through this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Anything about women's brains. It's just men's brains.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
That's a that's a self deprecating article. I don't know
why you that's an anti man article.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Is the pattern of shrinking and regrowth I'm reading this
story is thought to be influenced by the EBB and
flow of hormones throughout the day.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
I don't know anything about that. Really, I don't do
is there is there hormones in red Bull? That's all
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
I like, I don't know what's in red Bull. Whatever
it is, man, it winds you up every day.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Well you know what I'm I'm I'm red Bull deficient.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Today.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Actually, today was a very busy day. I got here late.
I didn't you usually bring in one of these like
ninety eight ounce red Bull, yeah, sugar free sugar because
I'm a health freak. Yeah, but I didn't have it
today because I was a late it's late getting here.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Yeah. So well, you know this could be a men
could take advantage of this study. If you think about
you go home at night and you say, Darling, I
just can't do that. My brain is shrinking. Okay, so
you don't you need to look at the positive side.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
So I have I have made a life of being
unable to multitask.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Okay, Well see that's your brain is shrinking.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Yeah, so I don't multitask, And so there is an
advantage to that, and now I can say that your
brain is shrinking. Yeah, this is what they call the
cerebral tech cortex, cortex cortex. Something is is shrink.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
I'm not a brain expert. So when when someone goes
to you at home tonight Krista asked you to do something,
to say, I can't do it, brain shrink.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
You're setting me up for so many she said, like
his brain must have already shrunk like all day because
she didn't get me to do anything at all during
the day. It's not like an evening window where I
become useless to her, she would argue that that's happening
on a more regular basis.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
I'm won't try that on Cindy. I wonder if you'll work.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Let me know, let me let us know how that goes.
I'd like to know. I'd like to know how. Yes,
I would, we all would. We'd all like to know
how how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
With Donnie says that men's brains shrink as the day progresses,
then they recover and their back to full size next week.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
So what would our show look like if we did
a morning show instead of an afternoon show.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
We'd be wound up baby boy, would we ever all right?
Weird stuff that doesn't for us?

Speaker 10 (01:30:44):
Tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Head up, shoulders back, man. God bless you and your
family and this great country of ours. Thanks for listening today.
We'll be back tomorrow at four

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